From owner-idn@ops.ietf.org Fri Feb 13 12:22:34 2004 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA21252 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from lserv by psg.com with local (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1Argql-000Jy0-OO for idn-data@psg.com; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:11:35 +0000 Received: from [18.29.1.73] (helo=dr-nick.w3.org) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1ArgqS-000Jwy-Qx for idn@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:11:16 +0000 Received: from enoshima (homer.w3.org [18.29.0.30]) by dr-nick.w3.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D3B3F4133; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:11:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.J.20040213120145.045b9f78@localhost> X-Sender: duerst@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58.J Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:10:56 -0500 To: "Soobok Lee" , "Michel Suignard" , "Stephane Bortzmeyer" , "Georg Ochsner" From: Martin Duerst Subject: Re: [idn] IDNs in IE and Google Cc: In-Reply-To: <000d01c3e4e8$071f4020$0102fea9@MASTER> References: <84DD35E3DD87D5489AC42A59926DABE905812743@WIN-MSG-10.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on psg.psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_MUA_EUDORA autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: *** Sender: owner-idn@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk At 00:12 04/01/28 +0900, Soobok Lee wrote: >Moreover, Most asian HTML homepages are published in local charset encoding >like euc-kr, big5 and gb2312 etc. UTF-8-encoded HTML pages are extremely >*RARE* >in ASIA. There is no need to switch to UTF-8 encoded pages to use IRIs. >Need for backward compatibility to already deployed IRI-concept and >Unicode<->Local charset conversion layer may lay another complexity to >IRI effort. Yes. That's why I have developed the fileiri module for Apache. See http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/apache-modules/mod_fileiri/, http://www.w3.org/2003/06/mod_fileiri/Overview.html (the examples don't work if the test server isn't up), and http://www.w3.org/2003/Talks/0904-IUC-IRI/. The idea of this module is easy: You tell it in what encoding the file names on your server are, per directory if you want (probably even finer, although I haven't tested that), and the server makes sure that the files can be retrieved both from older browsers (which just use the encoding in the page) as well as from newer browsers (which convert to UTF-8 before sending out the URI). Any comments, beta-testers, and porters are welcome! Regards, Martin. From owner-idn@ops.ietf.org Fri Feb 13 12:22:44 2004 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA21270 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from lserv by psg.com with local (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1ArgqU-000Jx9-PX for idn-data@psg.com; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:11:18 +0000 Received: from [18.29.1.73] (helo=dr-nick.w3.org) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1ArgqS-000Jwm-3Z for idn@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:11:16 +0000 Received: from enoshima (homer.w3.org [18.29.0.30]) by dr-nick.w3.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E07A3F40C2; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:11:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.J.20040213112431.04635008@localhost> X-Sender: duerst@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58.J Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:58:07 -0500 To: "Soobok Lee" , "Martin v. Loewis" , "Michel Suignard" From: Martin Duerst Subject: Re: [idn] IDNs in IE and Google Cc: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" , "Georg Ochsner" , In-Reply-To: <02bb01c3e4ae$65090c00$0102fea9@MASTER> References: <84DD35E3DD87D5489AC42A59926DABE905812743@WIN-MSG-10.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> <401378F3.8070406@v.loewis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on psg.psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_44,FORGED_MUA_EUDORA autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: *** Sender: owner-idn@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk At 17:20 04/01/27 +0900, Soobok Lee wrote: >Thinking that Content/Javascript/Java/Cookie security models heavily >depends on text >represenatations of hostname and file path parts of URL(then IRI), MS's >current conservative >postitions may be justified for security reasons. If you have any security issues related to IRIs that are not currently at http://www.w3.org/International/iri-edit/draft-duerst-iri.html#anchor21, please tell me. Regards, Martin.