From nobody Mon Dec 1 02:13:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F431A1B28 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 02:13:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FbgpVU6n7QJH for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 02:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias91.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C30F41A1B25 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 02:13:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.4]) by omfedm09.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id B0C402DC040; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 11:13:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme2.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.31.16]) by omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 8732B23806E; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 11:13:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCLILM34.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([169.254.4.132]) by OPEXCLILH05.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([10.114.31.16]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 11:13:52 +0100 From: To: Mingui Zhang , Susan Hares , "idr wg" Thread-Topic: [Idr] 2 Week WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-02 (11/25 - 12/9/14) Thread-Index: AdAIiyaWmgwX1nvsRQa7hRd7t65yjgAtM2wQAQPikFA= Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 10:13:51 +0000 Message-ID: <381_1417428832_547C3F60_381_246_4_9E32478DFA9976438E7A22F69B08FF920C71D39E@OPEXCLILM34.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <01bd01d0088b$c2c08e60$4841ab20$@ndzh.com> <4552F0907735844E9204A62BBDD325E76AAE1D72@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <4552F0907735844E9204A62BBDD325E76AAE1D72@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.3] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 6.0.3.2322014, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2014.11.21.125720 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iOkm94iooCCmmNDOmtYz-HBYR3o Cc: "'John G. Scudder'" , "draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Idr] 2 Week WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-02 (11/25 - 12/9/14) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 10:13:57 -0000 Support -----Original Message----- From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mingui Zhang Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 07:14 To: Susan Hares; idr wg Cc: 'John G. Scudder'; draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [Idr] 2 Week WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchi= cal-rr-02 (11/25 - 12/9/14) I think the problem is valid and the solution is useful. Support for adopti= on. Thanks, Mingui >-----Original Message----- >From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares >Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:43 PM >To: idr wg >Cc: 'John G. 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From nobody Mon Dec 1 08:21:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EDC1A6F63 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 08:21:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GgLF4sn72vRn for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 08:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1on0773.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fc10::773]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D0981A6F59 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 08:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from BY2PR05MB727.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.223.23) by BY2PR05MB080.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.242.38.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.26.15; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 16:20:10 +0000 Received: from mikhan-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net (66.129.241.11) by BY2PR05MB727.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.223.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.26.15; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 16:20:08 +0000 From: "John G. Scudder" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 11:20:00 -0500 References: To: "idr@ietf. org" Message-ID: <89F4453E-9E61-4316-BEB4-D411F9BFFFFD@juniper.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Originating-IP: [66.129.241.11] X-ClientProxiedBy: BY1PR0201CA0039.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (25.160.191.177) To BY2PR05MB727.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.223.23) X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:;UriScan:; X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR05MB727; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR05MB727; X-Forefront-PRVS: 0412A98A59 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(199003)(189002)(377454003)(479174003)(24454002)(51704005)(2473001)(23726002)(46102003)(21056001)(57306001)(15975445006)(92566001)(92726001)(66066001)(97756001)(50986999)(76176999)(16601075003)(50466002)(87286001)(105586002)(101416001)(46406003)(95666004)(69596002)(4396001)(107046002)(107886001)(122386002)(15202345003)(77096004)(102836001)(19580395003)(19580405001)(106356001)(50226001)(86362001)(33656002)(47776003)(40100003)(104166001)(97736003)(81156004)(64706001)(93916002)(88136002)(42186005)(20776003)(89996001)(31966008)(110136001)(99396003)(120916001)(450100001)(53416004)(87976001)(62966003)(77156002)(104396001)(42262002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR05MB727; H:mikhan-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR05MB727; X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR05MB080; X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/60mmZFdeebcSNbPExpiMLeH4W0U Subject: [Idr] Fwd: [sidr] A note from today's IDR/SIDR joint meeting - RPKI-RTR protocol document X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 16:21:10 -0000 I don't think this made it to the IDR list because it was stuck in the = mod queue and I didn't release it in time. Sorry about that. --John Begin forwarded message: > From: Matthias Waehlisch > Subject: Re: [sidr] [Idr] A note from today's IDR/SIDR joint meeting - = RPKI-RTR protocol document > Date: November 17, 2014 at 9:55:21 AM EST > To: Christopher Morrow > Cc: "idr@ietf.org List" , "sidr@ietf.org" = >=20 > Just to be precise, it's RFC 6916 (BCP 182). >=20 > RFC 6912 is about "Principles for Unicode Code Point Inclusion in=20 > Labels in the DNS" - differnet topic ;). >=20 >=20 > Cheers > matthias >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Matthias Waehlisch > . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST > . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany > .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl > :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net >=20 > On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Christopher Morrow wrote: >=20 >> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Roque Gagliano (rogaglia) >> wrote: >>> Chis, >>>=20 >>> The document is now RFC 6912 published as BCP. >>=20 >> great! (I should have looked further along the line in the tools page = I bet) >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Roque >>>=20 >>> On 14/11/14 21:00, "Christopher Morrow" = >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Also there was a question (from hannes?) about algorithm change >>>> processes and timelines.. that's covered in: >>>> >>>>=20 >>>> -chris >>>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Christopher Morrow >>>> wrote: >>>>> The topic of getting 'rpki data to routers' is covered in the >>>>> 'rpki-rtr' document: >>>>> RFC6810 - >>>>>=20 >>>>> and: >>>>> = >>>>>=20 >>>>> -chris >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Idr mailing list >>>> Idr@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> sidr mailing list >> sidr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > sidr mailing list > sidr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr From nobody Mon Dec 1 22:59:33 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3757B1A00FC for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PdhoUxMbvLHM_fZTsxEC40cuq_Q Cc: "draft-ietf-idr-add-paths@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Idr] 2 Week WG last Call for draft-ietf-idr-add-paths 11/25/14 to 12/9/14 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pradosh Mohapatra List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 06:59:32 -0000 Support, both. - Pradosh On Monday, November 24, 2014 10:37 PM, Susan Hares wrote: This is to begin a 2 week WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-add-paths and a WG Adopt= ion call for draft-retana-idr-add-paths-implementation-01=20 (11/25/14 to 12/9/14) =20 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths/ =20 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-retana-idr-add-paths-implementation/ =20 Please include in your comments the =E2=80=9Csupport=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cn= o support=E2=80=9D for either drafts. During the WG LC, the document auth= ors should indicate if there is any IPR related to these drafts.=20 =20 Thank you,=20 Sue Hares and John Scudder=20 _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr From nobody Tue Dec 2 07:53:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331C71A1BCD; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 07:53:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.054 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.054 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I8hFRp-OnADC; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 07:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (hhc-web3.hickoryhill-consulting.com [64.9.205.143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6651A026F; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 07:53:09 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=64.112.195.202; From: "Susan Hares" To: "idr wg" Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:52:46 -0500 Message-ID: <054d01d00e48$05fc9d60$11f5d820$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_054E_01D00E1E.1D290660" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdAOP3e2OGIiufLsQM6f/5+/Ucz5pA== Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iuIu7qJV8ET9RUSPCe6zPwMfPFA Cc: IESG Secretary Subject: [Idr] Interim on 12/16/14 at 13:00 -14:00 ET X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 15:53:12 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_054E_01D00E1E.1D290660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The IDR WG will hold an interim on 12/16/2014 (December 16th) from 13:00 - 14:00 ET (10-11 PT). An additional interims will be held on January on 1/12/2015 and 1/26/2015 with doodle pools confirming the times for these meetings. The topics for the 12/16/2014 agenda include: 1) Summary of WG LC for Add path related drafts which include [15] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths/ [Alvaro Retano] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-retana-idr-add-paths-implementation/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillation-stop/ [ draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-07.txt (uploaded 12/2/14) [Adam Simpson] 2) Status of RTC related drafts [10] draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-02 (WG Adoption) [Jie Dong] draft-rosen-idr-rtc-no-rt-01 (WG Adoption) 3) Generic Flow Specification versus RFC5575 discussion [10] draft-hao-idr-flowspec-evpn-01 [Weiguo Hao] Please also read: draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-v6-06 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5575/ 4) BGP Yang Modules Discussion [20] This discussion will include a discussion of status of BGP Yang data modules and the needs of providers to receive BGP config Yang modules http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-shaikh-idr-bgp-model/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhdankin-netmod-bgp-cfg/ I2RS Yang modules http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-i2rs-bgp-dm/ [switching time for slides 5 minutes]. The topics for the January interim are BGP Yang modules and next-hop issues. The IDR chairs are accepting additional request for presentations during the January interims. Sue Hares and John Scudder ------=_NextPart_000_054E_01D00E1E.1D290660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The IDR WG = will hold an interim on 12/16/2014 (December 16th) from 13:00 = – 14:00 ET (10-11 PT).    An additional interims = will be held on January on 1/12/2015 and 1/26/2015 with doodle pools = confirming the times for these meetings.

 

The topics = for the 12/16/2014 agenda include:

 

1)      = Summary of WG LC for Add path related drafts = which include [15]

http:/= /datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths/  [Alvaro = Retano]

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-retana-idr-add-paths-imp= lementation/

 

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillati= on-stop/ [

draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-07.txt = (uploaded 12/2/14) [Adam Simpson]

 

2)      = Status of RTC related drafts [10] =


draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-02= (WG Adoption)  [Jie Dong]

draft-rosen-idr-rtc-no-rt-01   (WG Adoption) =

 

3)      = Generic Flow Specification versus RFC5575 = discussion [10]

 

draft-hao-idr-flowspec-evpn-01  [Weiguo Hao] =

 

Please also read:

draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-v6-06

http://datatracker.ietf= .org/doc/rfc5575/

 

 

 

4)      = BGP Yang Modules Discussion [20] =

 

This discussion will include a discussion of = status of BGP Yang data modules and the needs of providers to receive =

 

BGP config Yang modules

http= ://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-shaikh-idr-bgp-model/

h= ttp://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhdankin-netmod-bgp-cfg/

I2RS Yang modules

http://d= atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-i2rs-bgp-dm/

 

[switching time for slides 5 minutes]. =

 

The topics for the January interim are BGP Yang = modules and next-hop issues.  The IDR chairs are accepting = additional request for presentations during the January interims. =

 

Sue Hares and John Scudder

 

------=_NextPart_000_054E_01D00E1E.1D290660-- From nobody Tue Dec 2 14:45:36 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F8F1A1B80; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:45:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C7Xu8k3pH_4r; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:45:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38D71A1A6E; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:45:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IESG Secretary To: IETF Announcement List X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141202224533.11768.20657.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 14:45:33 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/tSm_P_R7iubURCNZsUipfq5YvV4 Cc: idr@ietf.org Subject: [Idr] IDR WG Virtual Interim Meetings: December 16, 2014, January 12, 2015 and January 26, 2015 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 22:45:35 -0000 The IDR WG will hold an interim on 12/16/2014 (December 16th) from 13:00 - 14:00 ET (10-11 PT). An additional interims will be held on January on 1/12/2015 and 1/26/2015 with doodle pools confirming the times for these meetings. The topics for the 12/16/2014 agenda include: 1) Summary of WG LC for Add path related drafts which include [15] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths/ [Alvaro Retano] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-retana-idr-add-paths-implementation/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillation-stop/ [ draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-07.txt (uploaded 12/2/14) [Adam Simpson] 2) Status of RTC related drafts [10] draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-02 (WG Adoption) [Jie Dong] draft-rosen-idr-rtc-no-rt-01 (WG Adoption) 3) Generic Flow Specification versus RFC5575 discussion [10] draft-hao-idr-flowspec-evpn-01 [Weiguo Hao] Please also read: draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-v6-06 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5575/ 4) BGP Yang Modules Discussion [20] This discussion will include a discussion of status of BGP Yang data modules and the needs of providers to receive BGP config Yang modules http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-shaikh-idr-bgp-model/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhdankin-netmod-bgp-cfg/ I2RS Yang modules http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-i2rs-bgp-dm/ [switching time for slides 5 minutes]. The topics for the January interim are BGP Yang modules and next-hop issues. The IDR chairs are accepting additional request for presentations during the January interims. Sue Hares and John Scudder From nobody Tue Dec 2 16:33:28 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73931A8875 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 16:33:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fpgZSdcAjWZN for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 16:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EAAD1A8850 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 16:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-108-44-193-12.clppva.fios.verizon.net [108.44.193.12]) (authenticated bits=0) by puck.nether.net (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sB30XMqR002769 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Dec 2014 19:33:22 -0500 References: <00ee01d0087a$3688ed40$a39ac7c0$@ndzh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <00ee01d0087a$3688ed40$a39ac7c0$@ndzh.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6C2C44DA-E26C-4A90-805F-68318182F100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12B435) From: Jon Mitchell Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 19:33:20 -0500 To: Susan Hares X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.7 (puck.nether.net [204.42.254.5]); Tue, 02 Dec 2014 19:33:23 -0500 (EST) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/qjDodhdF09SN2aYYiXmkTo11uKY Cc: idr wg , "draft-ietf-idr-add-paths@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Idr] 2 Week WG last Call for draft-ietf-idr-add-paths 11/25/14 to 12/9/14 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 00:33:26 -0000 --Apple-Mail-6C2C44DA-E26C-4A90-805F-68318182F100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support on both. -Jon > On Nov 25, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Susan Hares wrote: >=20 > This is to begin a 2 week WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-add-paths and a WG Adop= tion call for draft-retana-idr-add-paths-implementation-01 > (11/25/14 to 12/9/14) > =20 > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths/ > =20 > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-retana-idr-add-paths-implementation/= > =20 > Please include in your comments the =E2=80=9Csupport=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9C= no support=E2=80=9D for either drafts. During the WG LC, the document auth= ors should indicate if there is any IPR related to these drafts. > =20 > Thank you, > Sue Hares and John Scudder > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr --Apple-Mail-6C2C44DA-E26C-4A90-805F-68318182F100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support on both.
-Jon

On Nov 25, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

This is to begin a 2 week WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-add-paths and a W= G Adoption call for  draft-retana-idr-add-paths-implementation-01 =

(11/25/14 to 12/9/14)

 

http://datatracker.iet= f.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths/

 

http://datatracker.i= etf.org/doc/draft-retana-idr-add-paths-implementation/

 

Please include in your comments the =E2=80=9Csupport=E2=80=9D= or =E2=80=9Cno support=E2=80=9D  for either drafts.  During the W= G LC, the document authors should indicate if there is any IPR related to th= ese drafts.

 

= Thank you,

Sue Hares and John Scudder

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= --Apple-Mail-6C2C44DA-E26C-4A90-805F-68318182F100-- From nobody Thu Dec 4 07:40:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326DD1AD407 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 07:38:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DoE1Y_2ZhoUL for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 07:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B03B1AD3DB for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 07:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 0A898181CDA; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 07:37:27 -0800 (PST) To: rsrihari@cisco.com, enkechen@cisco.com, rex@juniper.net, jgs@juniper.net, yakov@juniper.net, akatlas@gmail.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, shares@ndzh.com, jgs@juniper.net X-PHP-Originating-Script: 6000:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20141204153727.0A898181CDA@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 07:37:27 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/3FMK99DJL4paArUrPUpB4FG1-A0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 07:40:52 -0800 Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, idr@ietf.org Subject: [Idr] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC4724 (4193) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 15:38:07 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC4724, "Graceful Restart Mechanism for BGP". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=4724&eid=4193 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: John Scudder Section: 4.2 Original Text ------------- See Section 8 for a description of this behavior Corrected Text -------------- See Section 5 for a description of this behavior Notes ----- Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC4724 (draft-ietf-idr-restart-13) -------------------------------------- Title : Graceful Restart Mechanism for BGP Publication Date : January 2007 Author(s) : S. Sangli, E. Chen, R. Fernando, J. Scudder, Y. Rekhter Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Inter-Domain Routing Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Thu Dec 4 10:04:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42131A1B67; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 09:21:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5L3Q1d1-aGWF; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 09:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC2A1A1B63; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 09:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id ECEAE181CDC; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 09:21:03 -0800 (PST) To: jgs@juniper.net, rsrihari@cisco.com, enkechen@cisco.com, rex@juniper.net, jgs@juniper.net, yakov@juniper.net X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20141204172103.ECEAE181CDC@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 09:21:03 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Or9yGWY7lGWSmek9Gam9_arr0YE X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 10:04:47 -0800 Cc: idr@ietf.org, akatlas@juniper.net, iesg@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Idr] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC4724 (4193) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 17:21:39 -0000 The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC4724, "Graceful Restart Mechanism for BGP". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=4724&eid=4193 -------------------------------------- Status: Held for Document Update Type: Editorial Reported by: John Scudder Date Reported: 2014-12-04 Held by: Alia Atlas (IESG) Section: 4.2 Original Text ------------- See Section 8 for a description of this behavior Corrected Text -------------- See Section 5 for a description of this behavior Notes ----- -------------------------------------- RFC4724 (draft-ietf-idr-restart-13) -------------------------------------- Title : Graceful Restart Mechanism for BGP Publication Date : January 2007 Author(s) : S. Sangli, E. Chen, R. Fernando, J. Scudder, Y. Rekhter Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Inter-Domain Routing Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Thu Dec 4 15:59:34 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C0D1A8764; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 15:59:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i5ol5utEA-b7; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 15:59:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8551A86E2; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 15:59:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141204235929.19698.71028.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 15:59:29 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/K3z4ULkkLA88QWSuRj9jVe8xXm4 Cc: idr@ietf.org Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-enhanced-gr-05.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:59:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : Accelerated Routing Convergence for BGP Graceful Restart Authors : Keyur Patel Enke Chen Rex Fernando John Scudder Filename : draft-ietf-idr-enhanced-gr-05.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2014-12-04 Abstract: In this document we specify extensions to BGP graceful restart in order to avoid unnecessary transmission of the routing information preserved across a session restart, thus accelerating the routing convergence. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-enhanced-gr/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-enhanced-gr-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-enhanced-gr-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Dec 4 20:30:54 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184861AC3D8; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 20:30:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GmbzTf46Nqcy; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 20:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9431AC3C5; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 20:30:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141205043047.10385.6170.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 20:30:47 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/6VB-eYx5n_qOdai60lGaMFW3oHI Cc: idr@ietf.org Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-07.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 04:30:49 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : Best Practices for Advertisement of Multiple Paths in IBGP Authors : Jim Uttaro Pierre Francois Keyur Patel Pradosh Mohapatra Jeffrey Haas Adam Simpson Roberto Fragassi Filename : draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-07.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2014-12-03 Abstract: Add-Paths is a BGP enhancement that allows a BGP router to advertise multiple distinct paths for the same prefix/NLRI. This provides a number of potential benefits, including reduced routing churn, faster convergence and better loadsharing. This document provides recommendations to implementers of Add-Paths so that network operators have the tools needed to address their specific applications and to manage the scalability impact of Add- Paths. A router implementing Add-Paths may learn many paths for a prefix and must decide which of these to advertise to peers. This document analyses different algorithms for making this selection and provides recommendations based on the target application. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Dec 10 03:36:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6899B1A1B65 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:36:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -96.354 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.354 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JOe9OspgiVSv for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (hhc-web3.hickoryhill-consulting.com [64.9.205.143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEF31A1B17 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:36:28 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=forwardok (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=66.201.48.54; From: "Susan Hares" To: "idr wg" Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:36:20 -0500 Message-ID: <015201d0146d$860c7ae0$922570a0$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0153_01D01443.9D37F980" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdAUbQ+FommVT3gzR9OteJIyUCpDMA== Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/AjrZnRGgLRV-3o5LooqTK9nt6do Subject: [Idr] 2 week working group LC for draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-07.txt (12/10 to 12/24) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:36:30 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01D01443.9D37F980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is to begin a 2 week WG last call for draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines (12/10/2014 to 12/24/2014) which can be found at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines/ Please send your comments on whether these guidelines are ready to be sent to the IESG as an informational draft. 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------=_NextPart_000_0153_01D01443.9D37F980-- From nobody Wed Dec 10 11:28:36 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC8D1A90BA; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:28:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d_61xfWBPKQI; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB2F1A90C2; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:27:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141210192758.3294.83442.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:27:58 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PH-LL9_vPQ1Rxzf03fXY06aJWq4 Cc: idr@ietf.org Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server-06.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:28:33 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : Internet Exchange Route Server Authors : Elisa Jasinska Nick Hilliard Robert Raszuk Niels Bakker Filename : draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server-06.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2014-12-10 Abstract: This document outlines a specification for multilateral interconnections at Internet exchange points (IXPs). Multilateral interconnection is a method of exchanging routing information between three or more exterior BGP speakers using a single intermediate broker system, referred to as a route server. Route servers are typically used on shared access media networks, such as Internet exchange points (IXPs), to facilitate simplified interconnection between multiple Internet routers. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Dec 11 08:41:20 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754671A1AC1 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:41:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.788 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.788 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xn2TKvmRysVc for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:41:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from de-cix.net (relay3.de-cix.net [IPv6:2a02:c50:0:1e::3:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28F1E1A1AAD for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:41:15 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos; i="5.07,558,1413237600"; d="asc'?scan'208"; a="1448261" Received: from ms-exchange.de-cix.net ([192.168.67.12]) by mailgw011.de-cix.net with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 11 Dec 2014 17:41:13 +0100 Received: from MS-Exchange.de-cix.net ([fe80::250:56ff:fe9e:3eea]) by MS-Exchange.de-cix.net ([fe80::250:56ff:fe9e:3eea%10]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:41:17 +0100 From: Thomas King To: "robert@raszuk.net" , Ilya Varlashkin Thread-Topic: Status of "Carrying next-hop cost information in BGP" draft Thread-Index: AQHQFWFIRXCJXdho8EWgmxkeguT6hA== Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:41:16 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.140.93] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E92DF3F9-6260-48A4-B96B-734869C00CA9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Sjc-I8jJv2ZZ1JQ5V5f90nYnzco Cc: "idr@ietf.org" Subject: [Idr] Status of "Carrying next-hop cost information in BGP" draft X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:41:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E92DF3F9-6260-48A4-B96B-734869C00CA9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello Ily and Robert, I am a big fan of your draft "Carrying next-hop cost information in BGP" = [0]. Unfortunately, I do not see much progress on the draft since a = couple of months. I am currently working with a bunch of guys on a draft = about a feature for route servers which relies on ideas proposed by your = draft. So it is crucial for me to understand if this draft is dead or = still alive. Could you please give me the status of the draft from your = point of view? Thanks in advance, Thomas [0]: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-nh-cost-01 -- Dr. Thomas King Manager Research & Development DE-CIX Management GmbH | Lindleystra=C3=9Fe 12 | 60314 Frankfurt am Main = | Germany | www.de-cix.net Phone +49 69 1730902 87 | Mobile +49 175 1161428 | Fax +49 69 4056 2716 = | thomas.king@de-cix.net Geschaeftsfuehrer Harald A. Summa | Registergericht AG Koeln HRB 51135 --Apple-Mail=_E92DF3F9-6260-48A4-B96B-734869C00CA9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUicktAAoJEG1hpvi9gFNcBnwP/jUOviwgqEYBwy7FsmEfZpAm IYU5F8Nk9G1DZFv1CkCDuRzdtqjH4/nYIOQk6m12yTt0dye1YG9uSD10idylSjLy i496hjLo0Q1A63Dm4zH3pPmLEHJsVqLA6ylTaG/oI6EYjC9sgy/wm3H8S/D3MY8c Zk1TgO2s1Px0QdI8XQ5+F2OqzAPnB/0WZl3/Z7G6dzuW7IhbTyjz08uLimKgmlpk TBpUKQxmkugXV+NJouK2yJisrLxqkexmNIHKB6WmsoIFajH0FYjbPXKOdOhtIPjo iqNTzy3b/dQH4miyhoQARjNDdmfr2H517dgM3P6d5pkLJjKfybHmqXVTJO5E2L0l IC/cFsCu0JNateeCDk13z7FuAwDhByQmjPCKMlps1ahc4SbPZS5a1Wnsz/wFXk+N S7CgfudeHIMUf/VBkZ9CYX9zzc1I8mxtBNYT/f/2xCdTUABMsuA42xk4lFxZ9uRp HS/xtP3e1XeiGNml0fLprz4q8DxBK0HFXxUhcd5kPGjiTuSZE2OaBTc2xNOCPYXg Of9xdThuBlDhNAQ5IhFS0fCPLBynosOjm93Tm7EqW3PhilTNHJRzWQXfxPpdrBOB R7O4Ws2iYloKazyOo97whuGnQ9O3DxFEsP7B0ilMAI7iq+bIRODYfaiZDOcFg4bC RsWPJ98OJnwFtn5UtS0B =0v9W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_E92DF3F9-6260-48A4-B96B-734869C00CA9-- From nobody Thu Dec 11 09:22:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB0D1A6FCD for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:22:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id csIHJ8l3geSC for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobulus.com (nobulus.com [IPv6:2001:6f8:892:6ff::11:152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 478221A6F11 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobulus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nobulus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3BC172C8; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:22:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at nobulus.com Received: from nobulus.com ([127.0.0.1]) by nobulus.com (nobulus.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id x3dRY8pzj2Tk; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:22:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:2620::1040:402:acf3:a1ee:bf83:9e37] (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:1040:402:acf3:a1ee:bf83:9e37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by nobulus.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6AB6F17240; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:22:09 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: iLya Varlashkin In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:22:08 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Thomas King X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/wN8OW28ohS_Ps9X-h7XKi6_vkZs Cc: "idr@ietf.org" , "robert@raszuk.net" Subject: Re: [Idr] Status of "Carrying next-hop cost information in BGP" draft X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:22:19 -0000 Hi Thomas, great to hear about practical case for NH SAFI draft. Although currently = the draft is in latent state, it=92s not abandoned. Basically there=92s = a need in implementation to figure out how proposed encoding format fits = existing code bases. Are you working on a code that could incorporate = this feature? If so, let discuss in more details. Kind regards, iLya =20 On 11 Dec 2014, at 16:41, Thomas King wrote: > Hello Ily and Robert, >=20 > I am a big fan of your draft "Carrying next-hop cost information in = BGP" [0]. Unfortunately, I do not see much progress on the draft since a = couple of months. I am currently working with a bunch of guys on a draft = about a feature for route servers which relies on ideas proposed by your = draft. So it is crucial for me to understand if this draft is dead or = still alive. Could you please give me the status of the draft from your = point of view? >=20 > Thanks in advance, > Thomas >=20 > [0]: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-nh-cost-01 >=20 > -- > Dr. Thomas King > Manager Research & Development >=20 > DE-CIX Management GmbH | Lindleystra=DFe 12 | 60314 Frankfurt am Main = | Germany | www.de-cix.net > Phone +49 69 1730902 87 | Mobile +49 175 1161428 | Fax +49 69 4056 = 2716 | thomas.king@de-cix.net > Geschaeftsfuehrer Harald A. Summa | Registergericht AG Koeln HRB 51135 >=20 From nobody Thu Dec 11 10:00:28 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA9F1ACE47 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:00:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7KgOqPm9Q8GI for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFF381A907D for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id y20so5273708ier.4 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:00:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZFidncd8Ra871gaGcwJV99xruYcqFUtUfTMqN0uB6bw=; b=jBRvFhW/D4YhrTKaxc7ZB7S3bMnRIYfNHKu7KPaifZwqmW7t2+Qr/pUW0MbvMZomzL i4Tv2xhI26B7VXQ68MD72MSbIMuIgU1I1FYwKXV5XN/UDb/bJJmk443ZT19fZ6JtdmM8 Lb6o0aVjXpkzlaz9fchYRe/Kzkjpa9hGGD/Z38DfEOu8IhMF9yzepoIWaJNLWfBfXgeY ibna7oiDmpBs/ANbP6DWrUbm6Uft51yMp8bJ/wxzgaPWVJOLzkV9wpBHKCrrLEwAbKq1 MWbzQlA0lKi3cF51gxPl4bgQELp19oiVMRsONKAW5S9BvTz/6y//Pft9/z25m/v+HAIW aHIQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.165.75 with SMTP id o72mr8120338ioe.33.1418320823741; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:00:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: rraszuk@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.34.133 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:00:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:00:23 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lygOGRsYdSn7_gOQeuc7eYaVJLM Message-ID: From: Robert Raszuk To: iLya Varlashkin , Thomas King Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/QQ4y9n-sVfhKXjY6dYF7WikAf2I Cc: "idr@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Idr] Status of "Carrying next-hop cost information in BGP" draft X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:00:26 -0000 Just an update ... Related draft Optimal RR reflection has been implemented at least by two big commercial vendors. Exa-BGP was also looking at it. The comment I got when asking for this extension implementation was that next hop cost can be already taken from BGP-LS extension so there is no need to implement yet another mechanism. While it is possible for just IGP metric the scope of this document was broader allowing non metric related responses. For those extending the IGP + BGP-LS as indirect mechanism may not be the most lucky choice. Rgs, r. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:22 AM, iLya Varlashkin wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > great to hear about practical case for NH SAFI draft. Although currently = the draft is in latent state, it=E2=80=99s not abandoned. Basically there= =E2=80=99s a need in implementation to figure out how proposed encoding for= mat fits existing code bases. Are you working on a code that could incorpor= ate this feature? If so, let discuss in more details. > > Kind regards, > iLya > > On 11 Dec 2014, at 16:41, Thomas King wrote: > >> Hello Ily and Robert, >> >> I am a big fan of your draft "Carrying next-hop cost information in BGP"= [0]. Unfortunately, I do not see much progress on the draft since a couple= of months. I am currently working with a bunch of guys on a draft about a = feature for route servers which relies on ideas proposed by your draft. So = it is crucial for me to understand if this draft is dead or still alive. Co= uld you please give me the status of the draft from your point of view? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Thomas >> >> [0]: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-nh-cost-01 >> >> -- >> Dr. Thomas King >> Manager Research & Development >> >> DE-CIX Management GmbH | Lindleystra=C3=9Fe 12 | 60314 Frankfurt am Main= | Germany | www.de-cix.net >> Phone +49 69 1730902 87 | Mobile +49 175 1161428 | Fax +49 69 4056 2716 = | thomas.king@de-cix.net >> Geschaeftsfuehrer Harald A. 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Fri, 12 Dec 2014 05:34:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.055 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.055 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LaLhGW7oE8Dl; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 05:34:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (hhc-web3.hickoryhill-consulting.com [64.9.205.143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720351A1EEA; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 05:34:24 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=forwardok (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=66.201.48.54; From: "Susan Hares" To: "'Mach Chen'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:34:18 -0500 Message-ID: <005f01d01610$55f17640$01d462c0$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIAnW1QSiSJE+40s4AN+Kav/P1QU5wq5M1w Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/PNP1ZRwWI7iJHKCqUtWYSkjl1Xs Cc: idr@ietf.org, draft-ietf-idr-error-handling@tools.ietf.org, rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [Idr] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-16.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:34:26 -0000 Mach: Thank you for the routing directorate report. Thank you for the catch = on the RFC2119 language.=20 Sue=20 -----Original Message----- From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mach Chen Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 2:51 AM To: rtg-dir@ietf.org Cc: idr@ietf.org; draft-ietf-idr-error-handling@tools.ietf.org; = rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org Subject: [Idr] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-16.txt Hello,=20 I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. = The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related = drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review. The purpose = of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more = information about the Routing Directorate, please see = =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir=20 Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it = would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF = Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through = discussion or by updating the draft.=20 Document: draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-16.txt=20 Reviewer: Mach Chen=20 Review Date: Nov. 12, 2014=20 Intended Status: Standards Track Summary:=20 This document is well written and easy to understand. I found some nits = and one minor issue that I think should be resolved before publication. Comments:=20 None. Major Issues:=20 No major issues found.=20 Minor Issues:=20 Section 7.3 "The attribute is considered malformed if its length is not 4 = [RFC4271]." If only according to RFC4271, this is the case, but seems that RFC5549 = allows that the length of Nexthop attribute can be either 4 or 16. Nits:=20 Section 2. s/to handling/to handle in the last bullet of the 4 approaches. s/must not/MUST NOT Best regards, Mach _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr From nobody Fri Dec 12 06:38:28 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8F51ACD86; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 06:38:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LBpElT6U-Mqc; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 06:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0746.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fc10::1:746]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53FBC1ACD7C; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 06:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from msims-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net (66.129.241.13) by CO2PR05MB730.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.228.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.31.17; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:37:56 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: "John G. Scudder" In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:37:46 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: To: Mach Chen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Originating-IP: [66.129.241.13] X-ClientProxiedBy: CO2PR04CA034.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.240.162) To CO2PR05MB730.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.228.15) X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:; X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CO2PR05MB730; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601003); SRVR:CO2PR05MB730; X-Forefront-PRVS: 04238CD941 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(377454003)(199003)(189002)(51704005)(24454002)(33656002)(69596002)(97736003)(82746002)(92566001)(77156002)(89996001)(83716003)(105586002)(106356001)(62966003)(68736005)(101416001)(20776003)(1720100001)(50986999)(76176999)(110136001)(21056001)(19580405001)(36756003)(77096005)(23676002)(64706001)(81156004)(107046002)(40100003)(57306001)(42186005)(50466002)(122386002)(4396001)(86362001)(120916001)(87976001)(31966008)(230783001)(46102003)(66066001)(47776003)(53416004)(99396003)(50226001)(104396002)(42262002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CO2PR05MB730; H:msims-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CO2PR05MB730; X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iUO3aW-2nNFAbxffbQlg4-mAXX8 Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-idr-error-handling@tools.ietf.org" , "idr@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Idr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-16.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:38:27 -0000 Hi Mach, Thanks for your review and comments. I will make the changes and issue a = new version. Good catch on the RFC 5549 issue. Regards, --John On Dec 12, 2014, at 2:51 AM, Mach Chen wrote: > Hello,=20 >=20 > I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this = draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or = routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG = review. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the = Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please = see =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir=20 >=20 > Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, = it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF = Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through = discussion or by updating the draft.=20 >=20 > Document: draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-16.txt=20 > Reviewer: Mach Chen=20 > Review Date: Nov. 12, 2014=20 > Intended Status: Standards Track >=20 > Summary:=20 > This document is well written and easy to understand. I found some = nits and one minor issue that I think should be resolved before = publication. >=20 > Comments:=20 > None. >=20 > Major Issues:=20 > No major issues found.=20 >=20 > Minor Issues:=20 > Section 7.3 > "The attribute is considered malformed if its length is not 4 = [RFC4271]." >=20 > If only according to RFC4271, this is the case, but seems that RFC5549 = allows that the length of Nexthop attribute can be either 4 or 16. >=20 > Nits:=20 > Section 2. > s/to handling/to handle >=20 > in the last bullet of the 4 approaches. > s/must not/MUST NOT >=20 > Best regards, > Mach >=20 From nobody Fri Dec 12 07:54:33 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E8F1ACCED; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:54:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XQxALZv_D4OA; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:54:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4800D1ACDB0; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:54:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141212155426.15063.53766.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:54:26 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/v3VpZlWXey5iY2PKIB6hR0gr9vo Cc: idr@ietf.org Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-17.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:54:28 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : Revised Error Handling for BGP UPDATE Messages Authors : Enke Chen John G. Scudder Pradosh Mohapatra Keyur Patel Filename : draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-17.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2014-12-12 Abstract: According to the base BGP specification, a BGP speaker that receives an UPDATE message containing a malformed attribute is required to reset the session over which the offending attribute was received. This behavior is undesirable, because a session reset would impact not only routes with the offending attribute, but also other, valid routes exchanged over the session. This document partially revises the error handling for UPDATE messages and provides guidelines for the authors of documents defining new attributes. Finally, it revises the error handling procedures for a number of existing attributes. This document updates error handling for RFCs 1997, 4271, 4360, 4456, 4760, 5543, 5701 and 6368. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-error-handling/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-17 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-17 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Dec 12 07:54:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7011ACE4F for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:54:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nKq8NtktcMVA; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:54:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D231ACE32; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:54:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: idr@ietf.org, idr-chairs@tools.ietf.org, rob.shakir@bt.com, draft-ietf-idr-error-handling.all@tools.ietf.org, akatlas@gmail.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141212155426.15063.85800.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:54:26 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/ct2Xo640yWy9umAlM4Z1JnDJVRc Subject: [Idr] New Version Notification - draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-17.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:54:30 -0000 A new version (-17) has been submitted for draft-ietf-idr-error-handling: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-17.txt The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-error-handling/ Diff from previous version: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-17 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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From nobody Fri Dec 12 10:56:33 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0581A88C2; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 10:56:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IO-Zr7rt1QyC; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 10:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1on0799.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fc10::799]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D2DE1A7020; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 10:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from BY2PR05MB728.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.223.25) by BY2PR05MB127.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.242.38.24) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.31.17; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:56:02 +0000 Received: from msims-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net (66.129.241.13) by BY2PR05MB728.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.223.25) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.31.17; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:55:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: "John G. Scudder" In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:55:49 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <35D92225-7901-4D98-80E3-2415EC651484@juniper.net> References: To: Mach Chen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Originating-IP: [66.129.241.13] X-ClientProxiedBy: CY1PR09CA0026.namprd09.prod.outlook.com (25.160.223.36) To BY2PR05MB728.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.223.25) X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:;UriScan:; X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR05MB728; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601003); SRVR:BY2PR05MB728; X-Forefront-PRVS: 04238CD941 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(51704005)(377454003)(164054003)(24454002)(189002)(199003)(21056001)(122386002)(50226001)(4396001)(97736003)(76176999)(19580405001)(47776003)(50986999)(20776003)(66066001)(99396003)(31966008)(64706001)(82746002)(57306001)(89996001)(230783001)(69596002)(19580395003)(120916001)(107046002)(83716003)(1720100001)(86362001)(33656002)(77096005)(101416001)(23676002)(15975445007)(68736005)(42186005)(50466002)(62966003)(53416004)(81156004)(110136001)(46102003)(105586002)(87976001)(77156002)(92566001)(106356001)(104396002)(42262002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR05MB728; H:msims-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR05MB728; X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR05MB127; X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/iCfjBJPbCWD-08jw7heCelMEz7Q Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "idr@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-idr-error-handling@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Idr] [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-16.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:56:29 -0000 Chris Hall kindly pointed out to me that RFC 5549 only relates to the = MP-BGP encoding and NOT the legacy NEXT_HOP attribute, and thus my last = change was in error. I've reverted that change and will post it as -18. = (The two editorial changes are still there.) Section 7.11 did already = capture the "4 or 16" point for MP_REACH_NLRI, so no change needed = there. Thanks, Chris! --John On Dec 12, 2014, at 9:37 AM, John G. Scudder wrote: > Hi Mach, >=20 > Thanks for your review and comments. I will make the changes and issue = a new version. Good catch on the RFC 5549 issue. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > --John >=20 > On Dec 12, 2014, at 2:51 AM, Mach Chen wrote: >=20 >> Hello,=20 >>=20 >> I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this = draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or = routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG = review. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the = Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please = see =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir=20 >>=20 >> Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, = it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF = Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through = discussion or by updating the draft.=20 >>=20 >> Document: draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-16.txt=20 >> Reviewer: Mach Chen=20 >> Review Date: Nov. 12, 2014=20 >> Intended Status: Standards Track >>=20 >> Summary:=20 >> This document is well written and easy to understand. I found some = nits and one minor issue that I think should be resolved before = publication. >>=20 >> Comments:=20 >> None. >>=20 >> Major Issues:=20 >> No major issues found.=20 >>=20 >> Minor Issues:=20 >> Section 7.3 >> "The attribute is considered malformed if its length is not 4 = [RFC4271]." >>=20 >> If only according to RFC4271, this is the case, but seems that = RFC5549 allows that the length of Nexthop attribute can be either 4 or = 16. >>=20 >> Nits:=20 >> Section 2. >> s/to handling/to handle >>=20 >> in the last bullet of the 4 approaches. >> s/must not/MUST NOT >>=20 >> Best regards, >> Mach >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr From nobody Fri Dec 12 11:02:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059271A6FEF for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:02:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zkm4WzVaccNY; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69371AC42C; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:02:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: idr@ietf.org, idr-chairs@tools.ietf.org, rob.shakir@bt.com, draft-ietf-idr-error-handling.all@tools.ietf.org, akatlas@gmail.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141212190241.8338.83440.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:02:41 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/itUKWpta6jVwNxgcctDCf6RyJms Subject: [Idr] New Version Notification - draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-18.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:02:48 -0000 A new version (-18) has been submitted for draft-ietf-idr-error-handling: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-18.txt The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-error-handling/ Diff from previous version: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-18 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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From nobody Fri Dec 12 11:02:56 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE8B1AC426; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:02:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kr8VHqRjPHJD; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D601AC418; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:02:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141212190241.8338.17430.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:02:41 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/aCWHl8lUvSPjoLSnH05gMLhXn8s Cc: idr@ietf.org Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-18.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:02:50 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : Revised Error Handling for BGP UPDATE Messages Authors : Enke Chen John G. Scudder Pradosh Mohapatra Keyur Patel Filename : draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-18.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2014-12-12 Abstract: According to the base BGP specification, a BGP speaker that receives an UPDATE message containing a malformed attribute is required to reset the session over which the offending attribute was received. This behavior is undesirable, because a session reset would impact not only routes with the offending attribute, but also other, valid routes exchanged over the session. This document partially revises the error handling for UPDATE messages and provides guidelines for the authors of documents defining new attributes. Finally, it revises the error handling procedures for a number of existing attributes. This document updates error handling for RFCs 1997, 4271, 4360, 4456, 4760, 5543, 5701 and 6368. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-error-handling/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-18 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-error-handling-18 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Dec 14 17:05:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990011A0263 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:04:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -97.155 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-97.155 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id chPMnkvveTsy for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (hhc-web3.hickoryhill-consulting.com [64.9.205.143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC901A002B for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:04:54 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=64.112.195.202; From: "Susan Hares" To: "idr wg" Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 20:04:40 -0500 Message-ID: <00af01d01803$1c8437e0$558ca7a0$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B0_01D017D9.33B0A0E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdAYAvFB/KmtwHrST/2xj6Cy/7HdEg== Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/UuKCS_IPWYA_weNBZtrfcxA1CCA Cc: "'John G. Scudder'" Subject: [Idr] IDR interim on December 16th, 2014 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 01:04:58 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01D017D9.33B0A0E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00B1_01D017D9.33B0A0E0" ------=_NextPart_001_00B1_01D017D9.33B0A0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IDR WG will hold a virtual interim on December 16th, 2014 via web-ex. =20 =20 The web-ex information and link to the proceedings is below. The = December 16th IDR interim focuses on drafts related to: add-path, RTC = related drafts, flow-spec revisions for L2VPN, and yang models for BGP. = =20 =20 The following: status of the add-paths drafts status is:=20 =C2=B7 draft-ietf-idr-add-paths (WG LC 11/25 to 12/9) =E2=80=93 = passed WG LC=20 =C2=B7 draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines (in WG LC 12/10 to = 12/24) =20 =C2=B7 draft-retana-idr-add-paths-implementation =E2=80=93 WG = adoption (11/25 to 12/9) =E2=80=93 adopted=20 =C2=B7 draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillation-stop - no positive = support on mail list (not adopted)=20 =20 The rtc drafts WG adoption status (WG Adoption calls 11/25 to 12/9) =20 =C2=B7 draft-rosen-idr-rtc-no-rt =E2=80=93 support on list for = adoption=20 =C2=B7 draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr =E2=80=93 support on = list for adoption.=20 =20 If you wish to make any comments on these drafts please send email to = the IDR list or attend the interim. In depth discussions will be held on = the flow specification drafts and the yang models for BGP. =20 =20 Sue Hares and John Scudder=20 IDR co-chairs=20 =20 ---------- Interim 12/16/2014:=20 =20 http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2014/12/16/idr/proceedings.html =20 The web-ext information is below:=20 =20 =20 =20 IDR interim=20 Tuesday, December 16, 2014=20 =20 =20 = Join WebEx meeting=20 =20 Meeting number:=20 641 744 084=20 Meeting password: john.aa.sue =20 =20 Join by phone 1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number (US/Canada) 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) Access code: 641 744 084 Toll-free calling = restrictions =20 =20 = Add this meeting to your calendar. =20 =20 Can't join the meeting? Contact = support.=20 =20 =20 IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please note that this WebEx service allows audio and = other information sent during the session to be recorded, which may be = discoverable in a legal matter. 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=C2=B7         = draft-retana-idr-add-paths-i= mplementation =E2=80=93 WG adoption (11/25 to 12/9) =E2=80=93 adopted =

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=C2=B7         = draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchi= cal-rr =E2=80=93 support on list for adoption.

 

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From: = Susan Hares
Date: 2014-11-25 16= :42
To: idr wg
Subject: = [Idr] 2 Week WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-02 (1= 1/25 - 12/9/14)

This is a= WG adoption call (11/25 =E2=80=93 12/9/14) for draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarc= hical-rr-02 which can be found at:

 

http://datatracker.iet= f.org/doc/draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr/

 

Please include in your technical comments =E2=80=9Csupport=E2= =80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno support=E2=80=9D.   

 

Sue Hares and John Scudder

 

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Some of you have noticed that the = WebEx invite lists a start time of 12:30. This is to give us an extra = half-hour so that we can (hopefully!) ensure speakers have tested their = mics and other logistics. The meeting start time is indeed 1 p.m.. Thanks, --John & Sue= From nobody Tue Dec 16 09:08:59 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699F81A6EF0 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:08:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.321 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.321 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PwXSAN9Wfpvz for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F781A3BA4 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (99-59-192-241.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net [99.59.192.241]) by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4889FC0FB; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 12:08:55 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Jeffrey Haas X-Mailer: iPad Mail (12B440) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 12:08:56 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4D2BFB84-7087-425B-B31A-FA767A2471C4@pfrc.org> References: To: "John G. Scudder" Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/5E4uL6aL7SwACIxSTPf9Q8PEoaA Cc: "idr@ietf. org" Subject: Re: [Idr] Reminder, IDR interim beginning at 13:00 ET X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:08:57 -0000 Having just gotten done helping sue run the i2rs session, please remember to= open your chat window in webex. This permits clarification questions to hap= pen without disrupting the flow of a presentation. =20 Sent from my iPad > On Dec 16, 2014, at 11:47 AM, John G. Scudder wrote: >=20 > WG, >=20 > This is a reminder that we have an interim meeting scheduled for today sta= rting at 13:00 U.S. Eastern Time. Some of you have noticed that the WebEx in= vite lists a start time of 12:30. This is to give us an extra half-hour so t= hat we can (hopefully!) ensure speakers have tested their mics and other log= istics. The meeting start time is indeed 1 p.m.. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > --John & Sue > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr From nobody Tue Dec 16 11:45:27 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7491A874B for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:45:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -96.354 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.354 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tHdGmf5Lw0Lp for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:45:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (hhc-web3.hickoryhill-consulting.com [64.9.205.143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDA01A873E for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:45:19 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=64.112.195.202; From: "Susan Hares" To: "idr wg" Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 14:45:11 -0500 Message-ID: <019a01d01968$cea7c8e0$6bf75aa0$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_019B_01D0193E.E5D5B880" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdAZaD9/zGc8CjGhQUW0JQoiIriWIg== Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com X-IsFriend: Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/6ffNAG2fI2RxdWJqgXdQD-ISSfQ Cc: shares@ndzh.com, "'John G. Scudder'" Subject: [Idr] Minutes and proceedings from Interim on 12/16/2014 at 13:00-14:00 ET X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 19:45:23 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_019B_01D0193E.E5D5B880 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_019C_01D0193E.E5D5B880" ------=_NextPart_001_019C_01D0193E.E5D5B880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Minutes for the IDR interim (below and attached). Slides can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2014/12/16/idr/proceedings.html Please send any corrections to the list. Sue Hares --------------------- Attendees: John Scudder (IDR co-chair) Susan Hares (IDR co-chair) Alia Atlas (Routing AD) Alvaro Retana (cisco) Ignas Bagdonas Jeff Haas (Juniper) jie dong (Huawei) Nikos leontsinis Rob Shakir (BT) Robert Raszuk Adam Simpson Anees Shaikh (Google) IDR Interim meeting notes December 16, 2014 Scribe: John Scudder Previously schedule Flow Specification (Weiguo Hao) and Yang presentation (by Keyur Patel) will be deferred until the next interim. 13:00 Start the Meeting and Walk through the Agenda Flow specification and BGP Yang document (by Keyur Patel) are deferred 13:03 Rob Shakir mentions that his draft and Keyur although they have had discussing, are not expected to be merged or aligned. New model forthcoming. Sue: Will you be able to attend the next interim? Rob: Someone from Openconfig will attend. Sue: I'm glad we delayed the presentations 13:05 Sue discussed add-path progress, forthcoming adoption calls, forthcoming interims, etc. See the details on the IDR status slides ( 13:07 Alvaro presenting add-path Promises this is the last last add-path presentation ever 1:13 Nikos: I want to be able to use this with both Juniper and Cisco. How can we find out how many paths are supported for each platform? Vendor doc, or...? Alvaro: You mean mode or something else? Nikos: How many paths can I advertise into IBGP? Alvaro: That wouldn't be in the implementation report. Some implementations report N-path, but N is going to be implementation-dependent. Jeff (in IM): Nikos is asking if "send path count" could be added to the report. I think that's reasonable. Jeff (voice): I do agree that in some circumstances there MIGHT be restrictions on N, but in most cases many implementors ought to be able to provide a value for N. Alvaro: I'll check with those who provided data. Jeff: Something like "number of paths you can send and any limitations associated with that." Sue: Did that answer the question? Nikos: This doesn't help me in any way without a specific value for N. 1:18 Rob: This is implementation-specific, I don't think it's for the WG. Not a best-practices document. Sue: Agree 1:22 John: doesn't guidelines doc cover scaling? if not, it's an opportunity to add or propose a new draft. Adam: It does, but only in general. Providing specific numbers is never going to be realistic. Sue: Adam, can you say any more about guidelines? 1:23 Adam: -07 out with feedback from Jeff. Been stable for a long time. Talks about different path selection modes, there's value in having vendors report on their supported modes. Whether we put that in Alvaro's implementation report or a different one is up for discussion, but we should get those answers. Once that's done, we should advance guidelines doc too. Alvaro: There may be other things from the guidelines we need to poll for too? Adam: Modes is the main one. Could include constraints, as Jeff suggested -- for example, is there a limit on N for N-paths? Alvaro: Will do. Adam: I'll help. 1:25 Sue: Sounds like we're ready to advance the base specification for add-path and guidelines? Jeff: Agree. Esp. since dangling ref for EBGP has been cleaned up, and guidelines too. Sue: I have the AI to send notes to folks at RIPE, NANOG to generate guidelines, best practices. Or Nikos can directly propose. Sue: Anything else on add-paths? ...crickets (silence)... on to Hierarchical RR! 1:27 Sue: Jie, you might want to mention China Unicom's requirements 1:28 Jie presenting on Hierarchical RR RT-Constrain Two candidate solutions: most-disjoint route advertisement, or add-path Post-WG adoption we can continue to explore the solution space. Cina Unicom has one level for MBH and a second for aggregation of traffic. China Unicom case demonstrates that this problem could manifest in the real world and thus we should work on fixing it before a problem arises. Sue: Operators have opinion regarding preferred solution? [silence] Jie: No clear preference. Jeff: I may have suggested add-path earlier. I think we may have discussed whether diverse-path is a special case of best-external? If that, then most people have code for that already, and would not require you to turn on add-path. So good operational reasons to avoid add-path solution. 1:36 Sue: Any input from operators? ...crickets... Sue: It is going toward adoption, we think the problem statement is reasonable, if you don't think it is worth IDR please provide feedback. 1:37 Sue: Moving on to Yang models. Had expected a new draft, don't have one yet. Welcome any discussion on BGP model for service provider. Rob, Anees? Or we can delay until you have next rev out. Anees: We've addressed feedback on next rev of model, will also update draft. Almost ready. Sue: Next interim is in January 12, would you provide an update at that time? Anees: Someone from the group will do it, yes. Rob: As soon as we have published an update we will tell the list so that we can have concrete discussion items for the interim. 1:41 Sue: Anything else? ...crickets... Adjourned! ------=_NextPart_001_019C_01D0193E.E5D5B880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Minutes for the IDR = interim (below and attached). Slides can be found at: =

 

http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2014/12/16/idr/proceeding= s.html

 

Please send any = corrections to the list.

 

Sue Hares =

 

 

---------------------

 

Attendees:

John Scudder (IDR = co-chair)

Susan Hares (IDR = co-chair)

Alia Atlas  = (Routing AD)

Alvaro Retana = (cisco)

Ignas Bagdonas =

Jeff Haas (Juniper) =

jie dong (Huawei) =

Nikos = leontsinis 

Rob Shakir (BT) =

Robert = Raszuk

Adam = Simpson

Anees Shaikh = (Google)

 

IDR Interim meeting = notes

December 16, = 2014

 

Scribe: John = Scudder

 

Previously schedule = Flow Specification (Weiguo Hao) and Yang presentation (by Keyur Patel) =

will be deferred = until the next interim.

 

 

13:00  Start = the Meeting and Walk through the Agenda 

           Flow = specification and BGP Yang document (by Keyur Patel) are = deferred

13:03  Rob = Shakir mentions that his draft and Keyur although they have had = discussing,

       are not expected to be = merged or aligned. New model forthcoming.

           =

Sue: Will you be = able to attend the next interim?

Rob: Someone from Openconfig will attend.

Sue: I'm glad we delayed the presentations

 

13:05

     Sue discussed add-path progress, = forthcoming adoption calls, forthcoming interims, =

         etc.  See = the details on the IDR status slides (

 

13:07

Alvaro presenting = add-path

Promises this is = the last last add-path presentation ever

 

1:13

Nikos: I want to be = able to use this with both Juniper and Cisco.

How can we find out how many paths are supported for each = platform? Vendor doc, or...?

Alvaro: You mean mode or something else?

Nikos: How many paths can I advertise into = IBGP?

Alvaro: That = wouldn't be in the implementation report. Some implementations report = N-path,

but N is going to = be implementation-dependent.

Jeff (in IM): Nikos is asking if "send path count" could = be added to the report. I think that's = reasonable.

Jeff (voice): I do = agree that in some circumstances there MIGHT be restrictions on N, but = in most cases many

implementors ought = to be able to provide a value for N.

Alvaro: I'll check with those who provided = data.

Jeff: Something = like "number of paths you can send and any limitations associated = with that."

Sue: Did that = answer the question?

Nikos: This doesn't = help me in any way without a specific value for = N.

1:18

Rob: This is = implementation-specific, I don't think it's for the WG. Not a = best-practices document.

Sue: = Agree

1:22

John: doesn't = guidelines doc cover scaling? if not, it's an opportunity to add or = propose a new draft.

Adam: It does, but = only in general. Providing specific numbers is never going to be = realistic.

Sue: Adam, can you = say any more about guidelines?

1:23

Adam: -07 out with = feedback from Jeff. Been stable for a long time. Talks about different = path selection modes, there's value in having vendors report on their = supported modes. Whether we put that in Alvaro's implementation report = or a different one is up for discussion, but we should get those = answers. Once that's done, we should advance guidelines doc = too.

Alvaro: There may = be other things from the guidelines we need to poll for = too?

Adam: Modes is the = main one. Could include constraints, as Jeff suggested -- for example, = is there a limit on N for N-paths?

Alvaro: Will do.

Adam: I'll = help.

1:25

Sue: Sounds like = we're ready to advance the base specification for add-path and = guidelines? 

Jeff: Agree. Esp. = since dangling ref for EBGP has been cleaned up, and guidelines = too.

Sue: I have the AI = to send notes to folks at RIPE, NANOG to generate guidelines, best = practices.

Or Nikos can = directly propose.

Sue: Anything else = on add-paths?

...crickets = (silence)...

on to Hierarchical = RR!

 

1:27

Sue: Jie, you might = want to mention China Unicom's requirements

 

1:28

Jie presenting on = Hierarchical RR RT-Constrain Two candidate solutions: most-disjoint = route advertisement,

or add-path Post-WG = adoption we can continue to explore the solution space. =

Cina Unicom has one = level for MBH and a second for aggregation of traffic. =

China Unicom case = demonstrates that this problem could manifest in the real = world

and thus we should = work on fixing it before a problem arises.

Sue: Operators have opinion regarding preferred = solution?

[silence] =

 

Jie: No clear = preference.

Jeff: I may have = suggested add-path earlier. I think we may have discussed whether = diverse-path is

a special case of = best-external? If that, then most people have code for that already, and = would not

require you to turn = on add-path. So good operational reasons to avoid add-path = solution.

1:36

Sue: Any input from = operators?

...crickets...

Sue: It is going = toward adoption, we think the problem statement is reasonable, if you = don't think it

is worth IDR please = provide feedback.

 

1:37

Sue: Moving on to = Yang models. Had expected a new draft, don't have one yet. Welcome any = discussion on BGP model for service provider. Rob, Anees? Or we can = delay until you have next rev out.

Anees: We've addressed feedback on next rev of model, will also = update draft. Almost ready.

Sue: Next interim is in January 12, would you provide an update at = that time?

Anees: Someone from = the group will do it, yes.

Rob: As soon as we have published an update we will tell the list = so that we can have concrete

discussion items for the interim.

 

1:41

Sue: Anything = else?

...crickets...

Adjourned!

 

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New model forthcoming. =20 Sue: Will you be able to attend the next interim? Rob: Someone from Openconfig will attend. Sue: I'm glad we delayed the presentations 13:05 Sue discussed add-path progress, forthcoming adoption calls, = forthcoming interims,=20 etc. See the details on the IDR status slides ( 13:07 Alvaro presenting add-path Promises this is the last last add-path presentation ever 1:13 Nikos: I want to be able to use this with both Juniper and Cisco.=20 How can we find out how many paths are supported for each platform? = Vendor doc, or...? Alvaro: You mean mode or something else?=20 Nikos: How many paths can I advertise into IBGP? Alvaro: That wouldn't be in the implementation report. Some = implementations report N-path,=20 but N is going to be implementation-dependent.=20 Jeff (in IM): Nikos is asking if "send path count" could be added to the = report. I think that's reasonable. Jeff (voice): I do agree that in some circumstances there MIGHT be = restrictions on N, but in most cases many=20 implementors ought to be able to provide a value for N. Alvaro: I'll check with those who provided data. Jeff: Something like "number of paths you can send and any limitations = associated with that." Sue: Did that answer the question? Nikos: This doesn't help me in any way without a specific value for N. 1:18 Rob: This is implementation-specific, I don't think it's for the WG. Not = a best-practices document. Sue: Agree 1:22 John: doesn't guidelines doc cover scaling? if not, it's an opportunity = to add or propose a new draft. Adam: It does, but only in general. Providing specific numbers is never = going to be realistic. Sue: Adam, can you say any more about guidelines? 1:23 Adam: -07 out with feedback from Jeff. Been stable for a long time. = Talks about different path selection modes, there's value in having = vendors report on their supported modes. Whether we put that in Alvaro's = implementation report or a different one is up for discussion, but we = should get those answers. Once that's done, we should advance guidelines = doc too. Alvaro: There may be other things from the guidelines we need to poll = for too? Adam: Modes is the main one. Could include constraints, as Jeff = suggested -- for example, is there a limit on N for N-paths? Alvaro: Will do. Adam: I'll help. 1:25 Sue: Sounds like we're ready to advance the base specification for = add-path and guidelines? =20 Jeff: Agree. Esp. since dangling ref for EBGP has been cleaned up, and = guidelines too. Sue: I have the AI to send notes to folks at RIPE, NANOG to generate = guidelines, best practices.=20 Or Nikos can directly propose. Sue: Anything else on add-paths? ...crickets (silence)...=20 on to Hierarchical RR! 1:27 Sue: Jie, you might want to mention China Unicom's requirements 1:28 Jie presenting on Hierarchical RR RT-Constrain Two candidate solutions: = most-disjoint route advertisement, or add-path Post-WG adoption we can continue to explore the solution = space.=20 Cina Unicom has one level for MBH and a second for aggregation of = traffic.=20 China Unicom case demonstrates that this problem could manifest in the = real world and thus we should work on fixing it before a problem arises. Sue: Operators have opinion regarding preferred solution? [silence]=20 Jie: No clear preference. Jeff: I may have suggested add-path earlier. I think we may have = discussed whether diverse-path is a special case of best-external? If that, then most people have code for = that already, and would not require you to turn on add-path. So good operational reasons to avoid = add-path solution. 1:36 Sue: Any input from operators? ...crickets... Sue: It is going toward adoption, we think the problem statement is = reasonable, if you don't think it is worth IDR please provide feedback. 1:37 Sue: Moving on to Yang models. Had expected a new draft, don't have one = yet. Welcome any discussion on BGP model for service provider. Rob, = Anees? Or we can delay until you have next rev out. Anees: We've addressed feedback on next rev of model, will also update = draft. Almost ready. Sue: Next interim is in January 12, would you provide an update at that = time? Anees: Someone from the group will do it, yes. Rob: As soon as we have published an update we will tell the list so = that we can have concrete discussion items for the interim. 1:41 Sue: Anything else? ...crickets... Adjourned! ------=_NextPart_000_019B_01D0193E.E5D5B880-- From nobody Thu Dec 18 10:07:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E218A1A1F73 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:06:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.194 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.194 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XLgP48sg_fl6 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:06:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-mail2.rd.orange.com (p-mail2.rd.orange.com [195.101.245.16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C051D1A6EE8 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-mail2.rd.orange.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 30FBFE3008A for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:06:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.194.32.11]) by p-mail2.rd.orange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFEA1E30089 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:06:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.193.71.87] (10.193.71.87) by FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (10.194.32.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.195.1; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:06:44 +0100 Message-ID: <549317B4.1070202@orange.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:06:44 +0100 From: Olivier Dugeon Organization: Orange Labs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/TErSa01ZW9XDZJ3bpYQXINp-2Mo Subject: [Idr] Questions on draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:06:59 -0000 Dear authors, After reading and analysis your draft, I have some questions related to PCEand Segment Routing for the LSP State Information, in particular on the list of TE LSP Objects. a) Which routerwill report LSP State Information ? Only the LER, or all routers that are located on the path followed by the MPLS-TE LSP ? b) Is Path Key SubObject is implicitly part of ERO / RRO in your draft? if yes, do you think it is pertinent to mention it (through RFC number or explicitly) ? If not, do you think it is pertinent to add it ? c)IGP-TE metric have been extended recently (see draft-ietf-te-metric-extensions, draft-ietf-ospf-te-metric-extensions) with the possibility to distribute them with BGP-LS (see draft-ietf-idr-te-pm-bgp). Do you think it is feasible for the LER to compute the cumulative delay, jitter and loss along the path from the IGP-TE metrics it learn from the IGP-TE, and then, distribute the result through BGP-LS ? In this case, the TE Metric Object in the objects list of LSP State Information should be extended with the Metric Extensions, at least, delay, jitter and loss. d) The draft is related to MPLS-TE LSP and RSVP-TE, but I think it could be also suitable for path composed by segment. So, do you intend to add SR-ERO, and perhaps SR-RRO SubObjects (see draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-00.txt), in the objects listfor the LSP State Informationwhen it is composed by Segment ID or do you think it is preferable to left them for another draft devoted specifically to Segment Routing? e) In case of adding Segment Routing ERO/RRO, what could be envisage for the Tunnel ID (which is allocated by RSVP-TE) ? and for the Protocol-ID which is linked to RSVP-TE? as there is nodedicated signalling in Segment Routing. This information could be provided localy by the router, but combined with the Router ID, for example, in order to be unique. Regards, Olivier From nobody Thu Dec 18 19:30:46 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5901A006F for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:30:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id grNL4Hu4hrZI for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C3F31A004C for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BNB83047; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 03:30:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML406-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.37) by lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 03:30:39 +0000 Received: from NKGEML501-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.169]) by nkgeml406-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.37]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:30:07 +0800 From: Qin Wu To: Olivier Dugeon , "idr@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Idr] Questions on draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution-01 Thread-Index: AQHQGu10kO1RJalEIEuJJHN4PbICnZyWQHeQ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 03:30:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: <549317B4.1070202@orange.com> In-Reply-To: <549317B4.1070202@orange.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.138.41.180] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/umFUaiBhJBNTYxrXBudi6PEkuEo Subject: Re: [Idr] Questions on draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 03:30:45 -0000 c)IGP-TE metric have been extended recently (see draft-ietf-te-metric-exten= sions, draft-ietf-ospf-te-metric-extensions) with the possibility to distribute them with BGP-LS (see draft-ietf-idr-te-= pm-bgp). Do you think it is feasible for the LER to compute the cumulative = delay, jitter and loss along the path from the IGP-TE metrics it learn from= the IGP-TE, and then, distribute the result through BGP-LS ? In this case,= the TE Metric Object in the objects list of LSP State Information should b= e extended with the Metric Extensions, at least, delay, jitter and loss. [Qin]: why rely on LER to compute the cumulative performance results, why n= ot rely on PCE server to compute cumulative results (see draft-ietf-pce-pce= p-service-aware). Is it necessary to distribute cumulative results? I think it adds a lot of = complexity. From nobody Thu Dec 18 23:10:36 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5D51A8F3F for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 23:10:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.76 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.76 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dPAI-0_yhSds for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 23:10:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E68A1A89BB for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 23:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BQG10150; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:10:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nkgeml405-hub.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.36) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:10:25 +0000 Received: from NKGEML501-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.169]) by nkgeml405-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.36]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 15:09:23 +0800 From: Qin Wu To: Susan Hares , idr wg Thread-Topic: [Idr] 2 week working group LC for draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-07.txt (12/10 to 12/24) Thread-Index: AdAUbQ+FommVT3gzR9OteJIyUCpDMAG7Re/g Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:09:23 +0000 Message-ID: References: <015201d0146d$860c7ae0$922570a0$@ndzh.com> In-Reply-To: <015201d0146d$860c7ae0$922570a0$@ndzh.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.138.41.180] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B8F9A780D330094D99AF023C5877DABA846961D9nkgeml501mbschi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/KCbpdNqB2Blv-NRCTjlZvywDn60 Subject: Re: [Idr] 2 week working group LC for draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-07.txt (12/10 to 12/24) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:10:33 -0000 --_000_B8F9A780D330094D99AF023C5877DABA846961D9nkgeml501mbschi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SWYgdGhpcyBkcmFmdCBpcyBpbnRlbmRlZCB0byBiZSBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbmFsLCBJIHRoaW5rIHRo ZSB0aXRsZSBvZiB0aGUgZHJhZnQgc2hvdWxkIGJlIGNoYW5nZWQgZnJvbSChsGJlc3QgcHJhY3Rp Y2UgZm9yIGZvciBBZHZlcnRpc2VtZW50IG9mIE11bHRpcGxlIFBhdGhzIGluIElCR1ANCqGxIGlu dG8gobBndWlkZWxpbmVzIKGtLqGxDQoNClJlZ2FyZHMhDQotUWluDQq3orz+yMs6IElkciBbbWFp bHRvOmlkci1ib3VuY2VzQGlldGYub3JnXSC0+rHtIFN1c2FuIEhhcmVzDQq3osvNyrG85DogMjAx NMTqMTLUwjEwyNUgMTk6MzYNCsrVvP7IyzogaWRyIHdnDQrW98ziOiBbSWRyXSAyIHdlZWsgd29y a2luZyBncm91cCBMQyBmb3IgZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1pZHItYWRkLXBhdGhzLWd1aWRlbGluZXMtMDcu dHh0ICgxMi8xMCB0byAxMi8yNCkNCg0KVGhpcyBpcyB0byBiZWdpbiBhIDIgd2VlayBXRyBsYXN0 IGNhbGwgZm9yIGRyYWZ0LWlldGYtaWRyLWFkZC1wYXRocy1ndWlkZWxpbmVzICAoMTIvMTAvMjAx NCB0byAxMi8yNC8yMDE0KSB3aGljaCBjYW4gYmUgZm91bmQgYXQ6DQoNCmh0dHA6Ly9kYXRhdHJh Y2tlci5pZXRmLm9yZy9kb2MvZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1pZHItYWRkLXBhdGhzLWd1aWRlbGluZXMvDQoN ClBsZWFzZSBzZW5kIHlvdXIgY29tbWVudHMgb24gd2hldGhlciB0aGVzZSBndWlkZWxpbmVzIGFy ZSByZWFkeSB0byBiZSBzZW50IHRvIHRoZSBJRVNHIGFzIGFuIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uYWwgZHJhZnQu DQoNClN1ZQ0K --_000_B8F9A780D330094D99AF023C5877DABA846961D9nkgeml501mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
If this draft is intended to=
 be informational, I think the title of the draft should be changed from =
=A1=B0best practice for for Advertisement of Multiple Paths in IBGP

=A1=B1 into =A1=B0guidelines =A1=AD.=A1=B1

 

Regards!

-Qin

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Idr [ma= ilto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA= =B1=ED Susan Hares
=B7=A2= =CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2014=C4=EA12=D4=C210=C8=D5 19:36
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: idr wg
=D6=F7=CC=E2: [Idr] 2 week working group LC for draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-07.= txt (12/10 to 12/24)

 

This is to begin a 2 week WG la= st call for draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines  (12/10/2014 to 12/24/= 2014) which can be found at:

 

http://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/doc/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines/

 

Please send your comments on wh= ether these guidelines are ready to be sent to the IESG as an informational= draft.  

 

Sue

--_000_B8F9A780D330094D99AF023C5877DABA846961D9nkgeml501mbschi_-- From nobody Fri Dec 19 00:28:51 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A16E1A037A for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 00:28:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wrMbyiZf-vZi for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 00:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7703C1A012D for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 00:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BQG17203; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:28:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.35) by lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:28:45 +0000 Received: from NKGEML512-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.7.128]) by nkgeml404-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.35]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:28:41 +0800 From: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" To: Olivier Dugeon , "idr@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Idr] Questions on draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution-01 Thread-Index: AQHQGu1zOwQ2WGTKI0aI7qfsQroSN5yWbwWg Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:28:40 +0000 Message-ID: <76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927337ECDF9@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <549317B4.1070202@orange.com> In-Reply-To: <549317B4.1070202@orange.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.96.76] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/tIw0893-vn043Kr44ViKh3cCabs Subject: Re: [Idr] Questions on draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:28:49 -0000 Hi Olivier,=20 Thanks a lot for your comments and questions. Please see my replies inline: > -----Original Message----- > From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Olivier Dugeon > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:07 AM > To: idr@ietf.org > Subject: [Idr] Questions on draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution-01 >=20 > Dear authors, >=20 > After reading and analysis your draft, I have some questions related to P= CEand > Segment Routing for the LSP State Information, in particular on the list = of TE > LSP Objects. >=20 > a) Which routerwill report LSP State Information ? Only the LER, or all r= outers > that are located on the path followed by the MPLS-TE LSP ? In my opinion the LER is responsible for reporting the LSP state informatio= n. Other routers on the LSP path may report the LSP information if needed, = e.g. the border routers in inter-domain case.=20 >=20 > b) Is Path Key SubObject is implicitly part of ERO / RRO in your draft? > if yes, do you think it is pertinent to mention it (through RFC number or > explicitly) ? If not, do you think it is pertinent to add it ? In general the SubObjects of ERO/RRO are implicitly included in this draft.= Not sure whether we need to mention the SubObjects explicitly. If we decid= e to do it for the Path Key Subobject, we may need to list all the subobjec= ts explicitly.=20 >=20 > c)IGP-TE metric have been extended recently (see > draft-ietf-te-metric-extensions, draft-ietf-ospf-te-metric-extensions) > with the possibility to distribute them with BGP-LS (see draft-ietf-idr-t= e-pm-bgp). > Do you think it is feasible for the LER to compute the cumulative delay, = jitter > and loss along the path from the IGP-TE metrics it learn from the IGP-TE,= and > then, distribute the result through BGP-LS ? In this case, the TE Metric = Object in > the objects list of LSP State Information should be extended with the Met= ric > Extensions, at least, delay, jitter and loss. Agree that if performance information of the end-to-end LSP is needed, the = mechanism defined in this document can be used to distribute it northbound.= In that case the Metric Object extensions in draft-ietf-pce-pcep-service-a= ware may be used.=20 The performance information of the end-to-end path can be obtained either v= ia performance measurement on the path, or by computing the cumulative perf= ormance metrics of the links on the path. The former approach is usually mo= re accurate and easier.=20 > > d) The draft is related to MPLS-TE LSP and RSVP-TE, but I think it could = be also > suitable for path composed by segment. So, do you intend to add SR-ERO, a= nd > perhaps SR-RRO SubObjects (see draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-00.txt), in= the > objects listfor the LSP State Informationwhen it is composed by Segment I= D or > do you think it is preferable to left them for another draft devoted spec= ifically > to Segment Routing? This is a good question. As a path composed by segment is also one kind of = TE path, my personal opinion is it can be included in this draft. Then the = SR-ERO and SR-RRO Objects can be seen as part of the ERO and RRO object car= ried in the LSP State Information. Of course more details need to be consid= ered.=20 >=20 > e) In case of adding Segment Routing ERO/RRO, what could be envisage for = the > Tunnel ID (which is allocated by RSVP-TE) ? and for the Protocol-ID which= is > linked to RSVP-TE? as there is nodedicated signalling in Segment Routing.= This > information could be provided localy by the router, but combined with the > Router ID, for example, in order to be unique. If we decide to report segment routed paths, maybe we need to have a dedica= ted protocol-ID for it. The Tunnel ID and LSP ID fields could be filled by = the ingress router with local identifiers to uniquely identify an SR path o= n the router. Best regards, Jie >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Olivier >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr From nobody Fri Dec 19 05:38:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39641AC434 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 05:38:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -97.155 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-97.155 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y9IgAs_YdU6x for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 05:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (hhc-web3.hickoryhill-consulting.com [64.9.205.143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F0B1AC42E for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 05:38:01 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=64.112.195.202; From: "Susan Hares" To: "idr wg" Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:37:45 -0500 Message-ID: <019101d01b90$fd1b4dd0$f751e970$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0192_01D01B67.1445E210" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdAbkD2hymqExkifScOQOz37RsscZA== Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/wvqsz0s6nu8NEKvS6FLYRKNXNdU Cc: draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillation-stop@tools.ietf.org, "'John G. Scudder'" Subject: [Idr] 1 week final call for Adoption for draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillation-stop-09 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 13:38:02 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0192_01D01B67.1445E210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a final call for WG Adoption for draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillation-stop. http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillation-stop/ Based on the long history of discussion, and the approval of the draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10 solution, it is the intent of the IDR chairs to adopt this as a IDR WG draft. Please send any objection to the adoption of this draft as WG draft. 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http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillati= on-stop/

 

Based on the long history of discussion, and the = approval of the draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10 = solution, it is the intent of the IDR chairs to adopt this as a IDR WG = draft.  Please send any objection to the adoption of this draft as = WG draft.

 

Sue Hares and John Scudder =

------=_NextPart_000_0192_01D01B67.1445E210-- From nobody Fri Dec 19 05:46:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDD41ACC83 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 05:46:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -96.354 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.354 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XoJaBJDJty-1 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 05:46:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (hhc-web3.hickoryhill-consulting.com [64.9.205.143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1901A88A3 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 05:46:15 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=64.112.195.202; From: "Susan Hares" To: Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:44:57 -0500 Message-ID: <01c401d01b91$feca19d0$fc5e4d70$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01C5_01D01B68.15F4AE10" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdAbkULeZViW4uCIRLy+k1dsWqlgXg== Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/YqifCefp-wr9tgMtXsNHeHCfsGI Cc: robert@raszuk.net Subject: [Idr] 1 Week Final Call for adoption of draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-02 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 13:46:16 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C5_01D01B68.15F4AE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The IDR Chairs intend to adopt the draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-02 as a WG draft. This is a 1 week final call for comments on the adoption of this draft as WG draft. The draft can be found at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr/ Sue Hares and John Scudder ------=_NextPart_000_01C5_01D01B68.15F4AE10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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The IDR Chairs intend to adopt the = draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-02 as a WG draft.  This is a 1 = week final call for comments on the adoption of this draft as WG draft. =  The draft can be found at:

 

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr/

 

 

Sue Hares = and John Scudder

 

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------=_NextPart_000_01C5_01D01B68.15F4AE10-- From nobody Fri Dec 19 05:58:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489D21A88A5 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 05:58:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -96.354 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.354 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T2lwcE8z3MrI for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 05:57:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (hhc-web3.hickoryhill-consulting.com [64.9.205.143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F6C1A8896 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 05:57:59 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=64.112.195.202; From: "Susan Hares" To: "idr wg" Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:57:52 -0500 Message-ID: <01dc01d01b93$c9854040$5c8fc0c0$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01DD_01D01B69.E0AFAD70" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdAbk4/RHyNH385NTYmMhMLlr73rUQ== Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/sTUm_i_jcmwfNUWHfrgNlixPrGo Cc: draft-rosen-idr-rtc-no-rt@tools.ietf.org Subject: [Idr] draft-rosen-idr-rtc-no-rt - 1 week final call for adoption (12/19 to 12/26) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 13:58:00 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01DD_01D01B69.E0AFAD70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The IDR WG chairs intend to adopt draft-rosen-idr-rtc-no-rt-01 draft as an IDR WG draft. This is a final 1 week call to request feedback from the WG. The draft can be found at: draft-rosen-idr-rtc-no-rt-01 Sue Hares and John Scudder ------=_NextPart_000_01DD_01D01B69.E0AFAD70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The IDR WG = chairs intend to adopt draft-rosen-idr-rtc-no-rt-01 draft as an IDR WG = draft.  This is a final 1 week call to request feedback from the = WG.  The draft can be found at:

 

draft-rosen-idr-rtc-no-rt-01

 

Sue Hares =  and John Scudder

------=_NextPart_000_01DD_01D01B69.E0AFAD70-- From nobody Sun Dec 21 23:34:56 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399F81A89FB; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 23:34:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MnOnmXnaUm8G; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 23:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3D61A0172; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 23:34:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.9.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141222073453.5379.37435.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 23:34:53 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/fNBgXbdqNxzJI8pTA59ZYMppGm4 Cc: idr@ietf.org Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ipv6-rt-constrain-06.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:34:54 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPv6 Extensions for Route Target Distribution Authors : Keyur Patel Robert Raszuk Martin Djernaes Jie Dong Mach(Guoyi) Chen Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ipv6-rt-constrain-06.txt Pages : 5 Date : 2014-12-21 Abstract: The current route target distribution specification as described in [RFC 4684] defines Route Target NLRIs of maximum length of 12 bytes. The IPv6 specific Route Target extended community is defined in [RFC 5701] as length of 20 bytes. Since the current specification only supports prefixes of maximum length of 12 bytes, the lack of an IPv6 specific Route Target reachability information may be a problem when an operator wants to use this application in a pure IPv6 environment. This document defines an extension that allows BGP to exchange longer length IPv6 Route Target prefixes. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ipv6-rt-constrain/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ipv6-rt-constrain-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ipv6-rt-constrain-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Dec 22 07:33:51 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B601A9112 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:33:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ANqP8lqHvSuG for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53751A19E4 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B392FC265; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:33:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:33:40 -0500 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Susan Hares Message-ID: <20141222153340.GS16279@pfrc> References: <01bd01d0088b$c2c08e60$4841ab20$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01bd01d0088b$c2c08e60$4841ab20$@ndzh.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XcpNyLk6Qo2pRSl8ul97Kez-6Eg Cc: idr wg , "'John G. Scudder'" , draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [Idr] 2 Week WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-02 (11/25 - 12/9/14) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 15:33:48 -0000 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 03:42:31AM -0500, Susan Hares wrote: > This is a WG adoption call (11/25 - 12/9/14) for > draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-02 which can be found at: > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr/ > > Please include in your technical comments "support" or "no support". I support adoption. I still have some concerns about the specifics in the solutions, but the document is a good start for discussing those solutions. -- Jeff From nobody Mon Dec 22 07:38:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DFE1A09C9 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:38:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iTYZ9wsG9ijO for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EF21A07BE for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 02CA0C281; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:38:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:38:07 -0500 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Susan Hares Message-ID: <20141222153807.GT16279@pfrc> References: <019101d01b90$fd1b4dd0$f751e970$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <019101d01b90$fd1b4dd0$f751e970$@ndzh.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/rWDtwwY-_UTbNASVoFPmiUeHm1w Cc: idr wg , draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillation-stop@tools.ietf.org, "'John G. Scudder'" Subject: Re: [Idr] 1 week final call for Adoption for draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillation-stop-09 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 15:38:09 -0000 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 08:37:45AM -0500, Susan Hares wrote: > This is a final call for WG Adoption for > draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillation-stop. > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-walton-bgp-route-oscillation-stop/ > > Based on the long history of discussion, and the approval of the > > draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10 solution, it is the intent of the IDR chairs to > adopt this as a IDR WG draft. Please send any objection to the adoption of > this draft as WG draft. I'd like to offer a positive acknowledgment to adopt this draft. add-paths has been proven to address the original oscillation issue in our labs. We have generally not seen providers looking to implement add-paths specifically for this purpose though. The solution tends to be a bit too heavy weight and requires first detecting that the condition is occurring, and then deploying add-path to suppress it. Other solutions such as adjusting IGP distance, as documented in RFC 3345, seem to be better deployed. -- Jeff From nobody Tue Dec 23 06:37:37 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2673A1ACEF7 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 06:37:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -94.054 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-94.054 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mw0XiFQokwYQ for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 06:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (hhc-web3.hickoryhill-consulting.com [64.9.205.143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77421ACEF0 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 06:37:33 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=64.112.195.202; From: "Susan Hares" To: "idr wg" Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 09:37:23 -0500 Message-ID: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01D01E94.0E72C4E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdAevaFpDeeSh60eTxGCTJRRuSQ2og== Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/OYvT_AeiN1UOw7xuFrF7dA7cRQQ Cc: 'Xuxiaohu' Subject: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 14:37:36 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01D01E94.0E72C4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicate "support" or "no support". Thank you, Sue Hares ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01D01E94.0E72C4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is to = begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for = draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01  (12/23/2014 to = 01/6/2014).  The draft can be accessed at:

 

 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/.<= o:p>

 

In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this = approach and indicate “support” or “no = support”.

 

Thank = you,

 

Sue Hares

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0024_01D01E94.0E72C4E0-- From nobody Tue Dec 23 18:17:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7411A8834 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:17:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id csxx88KP964s for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:17:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54C2C1A8832 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BQK17630; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 02:17:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA414-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.73) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 02:17:21 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA510-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.118]) by SZXEMA414-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.73]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:17:13 +0800 From: Mach Chen To: Susan Hares , idr wg Thread-Topic: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Thread-Index: AdAevaFpDeeSh60eTxGCTJRRuSQ2ogAYZBYg Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 02:17:12 +0000 Message-ID: References: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> In-Reply-To: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.97.72] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE28B334839SZXEMA510MBXchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/YYITRCzIKR0NlrBOJejPbbnxVTA Cc: Xuxiaohu Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 02:17:29 -0000 --_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE28B334839SZXEMA510MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support. Best regards, Mach From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM To: idr wg Cc: Xuxiaohu Subject: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicat= e "support" or "no support". Thank you, Sue Hares --_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE28B334839SZXEMA510MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= Support.

=  

= Best regards,

= Mach

=  

From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On B= ehalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, = 2014 10:37 PM
To: idr wg
Cc: Xuxiaohu
Subject: [Idr] WG adoption c= all for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01

 

This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call fo= r draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01  (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). = ; The draft can be accessed at:

 

 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draf= t-xu-idr-performance-routing/.

 

In your response, please discuss the pros/con= s of this approach and indicate “support” or “no support&= #8221;.

 

Thank you,

 

Sue Hares

 

 

--_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE28B334839SZXEMA510MBXchi_-- From nobody Tue Dec 23 18:36:05 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23471A8972 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:36:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y2XQHL4SDHon for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A32551A88CF for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BQK18630; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 02:36:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML410-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.41) by lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 02:35:59 +0000 Received: from NKGEML512-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.7.128]) by nkgeml410-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.41]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:35:49 +0800 From: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" To: Susan Hares , idr wg Thread-Topic: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Thread-Index: AdAevaFpDeeSh60eTxGCTJRRuSQ2ogAY+4WQ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 02:35:48 +0000 Message-ID: <76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927337EFD1E@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> In-Reply-To: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.96.76] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927337EFD1Enkgeml512mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RddhWmxLGPvof72vuT1Or3O0AU4 Cc: Xuxiaohu Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 02:36:04 -0000 --_000_76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927337EFD1Enkgeml512mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support. I've read this draft and think it provides a useful mechanism for = performance routing. One nit: In section 6, [I-D.ietf-isis-te-metric-extensions] was mentioned t= wice, I guess one of them should be replaced with [I-D.ietf-ospf-te-metric-= extensions]. Best regards, Jie From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM To: idr wg Cc: Xuxiaohu Subject: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicat= e "support" or "no support". Thank you, Sue Hares --_000_76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927337EFD1Enkgeml512mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support. I’ve read this draft and think it provides a usefu= l mechanism for performance routing.

 

One nit: In section 6, [I-D.ietf-isis-te-metric-extensions] was m= entioned twice, I guess one of them should be replaced with [I-D.ietf-ospf-= te-metric-extensions].

 

Best regards,

Jie

 

From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM
To: idr wg
Cc: Xuxiaohu
Subject: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing= -01

 

This is to begin a 2 Week WG ad= option call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01  (12/23/2014 to 01= /6/2014).  The draft can be accessed at:

 

 http://datatracker.iet= f.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/.

 

In your response, please discus= s the pros/cons of this approach and indicate “support” or R= 20;no support”.

 

Thank you,

 

Sue Hares

 

 

--_000_76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927337EFD1Enkgeml512mbxchi_-- From nobody Wed Dec 24 05:33:34 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9785B1ACD9B for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 05:33:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_CREDIT=2.3, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kF2LQCQ8_iae for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 05:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpas2.ca-cib.com (smtpas2.ca-cib.com [194.4.140.151]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A6E1A8A8A for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 05:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO smtpav1-ext.ca-cib.com) ([192.168.234.18]) by smtpas2.ca-cib.com with ESMTP; 24 Dec 2014 14:33:28 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO EMMXPA024.emea.cib) ([10.146.142.75]) by smtpav1-int.ca-cib.com with ESMTP; 24 Dec 2014 14:33:28 +0100 Received: from EMMXPA023.emea.cib ([10.146.142.106]) by EMMXPA024.emea.cib ([10.146.142.75]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 14:33:27 +0100 From: "ALBERT, Benoit (ca-cib)" To: Susan Hares , idr wg Thread-Topic: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Thread-Index: AdAevaFpDeeSh60eTxGCTJRRuSQ2ogAwHk/Q Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:33:26 +0000 Message-ID: References: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> In-Reply-To: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.146.143.57] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C4072639F3ADD84A911797FBD187240314579E57EMMXPA023emeaci_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/ojiL5HvAGVQ_wfKmzJKfNUr315A Cc: 'Xuxiaohu' Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:33:32 -0000 --_000_C4072639F3ADD84A911797FBD187240314579E57EMMXPA023emeaci_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support. One nit : In section 6, there is a =AB RECOMMENTED =BB instead of =AB RECO= MMENDED =BB Beno=EEt ALBERT De : Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Susan Hares Envoy=E9 : mardi 23 d=E9cembre 2014 15:37 =C0 : idr wg Cc : 'Xuxiaohu' Objet : [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicat= e "support" or "no support". Thank you, Sue Hares This message and any attachments are intended for the sole use of its addre= ssee. If you are not the addressee, please immediately notify the sender and then= destroy the message. As this message and/or any attachments may have been altered without our kn= owledge, its content is not legally binding on Cr=E9dit Agricole Corporate = and Investment Bank. All rights reserved. = Ce message et ses pi=E8ces jointes sont destin=E9s =E0 l'usage exclusif de = leur destinataire. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci d'en aviser imm=E9diatement l'= exp=E9diteur et de le d=E9truire ensuite. Le pr=E9sent message pouvant =EAtre alt=E9r=E9 =E0 notre insu, Cr=E9dit Agr= icole Corporate and Investment Bank ne peut pas =EAtre engag=E9 par son con= tenu. Tous droits r=E9serv=E9s. --_000_C4072639F3ADD84A911797FBD187240314579E57EMMXPA023emeaci_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support.

One nit : In sect= ion 6, there is a =AB RECOMMENTED =BB instead of  =AB=  RECOMMENDED =BB

 

Beno=EEt ALBERT

 

De : Idr = [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Susan Hares
Envoy=E9 : mardi 23 d=E9cembre 2014 15:37
=C0 : idr wg
Cc : 'Xuxiaohu'
Objet : [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01

 

This is to begin a 2 Week WG ad= option call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01  (12/23/2014 to 01= /6/2014).  The draft can be accessed at:

 

 http://datatracker.iet= f.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/.

 

In your response, please discus= s the pros/cons of this approach and indicate “support” or R= 20;no support”.

 

Thank you,

 

Sue Hares

 

 

This message and any attachments are intended for the sole use of its ad= dressee.
If you are not the addressee, please immediately notify the sender and then= destroy the message.
As this message and/or any attachments may have been altered without our kn= owledge, its content is not legally binding on Cr=E9dit Agricole Corporate = and Investment Bank.
All rights reserved.


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Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci d'en aviser imm=E9diatement l'= exp=E9diteur et de le d=E9truire ensuite.
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Tous droits r=E9serv=E9s.

--_000_C4072639F3ADD84A911797FBD187240314579E57EMMXPA023emeaci_-- From nobody Wed Dec 24 07:47:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4029F1A8A82 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 07:47:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K33jGY9n3Ver for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 07:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D0CA1A8A7F for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 07:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BQL27499; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 15:47:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DFWEML706-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.225) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 15:47:11 +0000 Received: from DFWEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.50]) by dfweml706-chm ([10.193.5.225]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 07:47:02 -0800 From: Lucy yong To: Susan Hares , idr wg Thread-Topic: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Thread-Index: AdAevaFpDeeSh60eTxGCTJRRuSQ2ogAYZBYgABxk6uA= Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 15:47:01 +0000 Message-ID: <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4542B7E5@dfweml701-chm> References: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.154.127] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4542B7E5dfweml701chm_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/2wg407S7v0B6L6uZ80kEhSLz7tQ Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 15:47:18 -0000 --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4542B7E5dfweml701chm_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support! Cheers, Lucy From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM To: idr wg Cc: Xuxiaohu Subject: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicat= e "support" or "no support". Thank you, Sue Hares --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4542B7E5dfweml701chm_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support!

 

Cheers,

Lucy

=  

From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM
To: idr wg
Cc: Xuxiaohu
Subject: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing= -01

 

This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft= -xu-idr-performance-routing-01  (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014).  The d= raft can be accessed at:

 

 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-id= r-performance-routing/.

 

In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of th= is approach and indicate “support” or “no support”.=

 

Thank you,

 

Sue Hares

 

 

--_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4542B7E5dfweml701chm_-- From nobody Wed Dec 24 10:44:55 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FB41A1A3B for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:44:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8XYHUo5r8UER for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 515DE1A1A39 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:44:51 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c6180641-f79916d00000623a-0d-549aac566a84 Received: from EUSAAHC001.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.75]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id E6.B1.25146.65CAA945; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:06:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB109.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.126]) by EUSAAHC001.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.75]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:44:48 -0500 From: Jeff Tantsura To: Susan Hares Thread-Topic: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Thread-Index: AdAevaFpDeeSh60eTxGCTJRRuSQ2ogA7A6wo Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 18:44:47 +0000 Message-ID: <54A8286B-29B9-4A1E-9D54-89EC64218CCA@ericsson.com> References: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> In-Reply-To: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_54A8286B29B94A1E9D5489EC64218CCAericssoncom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrGLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXSPt274mlkhBg2feCxe3X7GZPHnzSsW i63nVzE6MHu0HHnL6rFkyU8mj9mvr7MGMEdx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZfy8+o254Kl8xYv1/1ka GKfLdDFyckgImEjsOXCMCcIWk7hwbz1bFyMXh5DAEUaJKXvPMkE4yxkl/nxZyQ5SxSZgIPH/ 23EWEFtEQFHiyNV1QHEODmYBS4ltFxhBwsIC3hLP9/ZDlfhIvP68hBXCNpJoPLuIDcRmEVCV OPL4BdhIXgF7iUXvIOJCAmYSU7ddB5vDKWAucWHdXbAaRqDjvp9aA3Yos4C4xK0n86GOFpBY suc8M4QtKvHy8T9WiJpkiSNfZkLNF5Q4OfMJywRGkVlI2mchKZuFpAwibiDx/tx8ZghbW2LZ wtdQtr7Exi9nGZHFFzCyr2LkKC1OLctNNzLcxAiMqGMSbI47GBd8sjzEKMDBqMTDa6AzK0SI NbGsuDL3EKM0B4uSOK9m9bxgIYH0xJLU7NTUgtSi+KLSnNTiQ4xMHJxSDYyVrxL0rs4/qaFT 4PDNr9rB69y9reZPcpJrNK5YR1j51V5y/vbVV1Nm4X+tFcIX9LuO34rdIVLOtzqudoU+p5qK s6f6gg+z/z86Hu2euuUcf5HB7VsLRP3/nU5q7nhhKTel5MeGyTlX7/h/vRRp7GbeU7TLQ8/h JE+qxnRmI/Yfwqa9r193LldiKc5INNRiLipOBAD+14hmiQIAAA== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/TuIqYOTmaK-aRVXZcGQMjBgKonA Cc: idr wg , Xuxiaohu Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 18:44:53 -0000 --_000_54A8286B29B94A1E9D5489EC64218CCAericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support Regards, Jeff On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Susan Hares > wrote: This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://= datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicat= e =93support=94 or =93no support=94. Thank you, Sue Hares _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr --_000_54A8286B29B94A1E9D5489EC64218CCAericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes/support

Regards,
Jeff

On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft= -xu-idr-performance-routing-01  (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014).  The d= raft can be accessed at:

 

 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draf= t-xu-idr-performance-routing/.

 

In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of th= is approach and indicate =93support=94 or =93no support=94.

 

Thank you,

 

Sue Hares

 

 

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--_000_54A8286B29B94A1E9D5489EC64218CCAericssoncom_-- From nobody Wed Dec 24 17:07:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC091A6F51 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:07:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.39 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.39 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_CREDIT=2.3, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ax_hcvpqBYSD for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:07:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71FEF1A6EEC for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BQL52097; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:07:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.34) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:07:12 +0000 Received: from NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.199]) by nkgeml403-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.34]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 09:07:08 +0800 From: Xuxiaohu To: "ALBERT, Benoit (ca-cib)" , Susan Hares , idr wg Thread-Topic: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Thread-Index: AdAevaFpDeeSh60eTxGCTJRRuSQ2ogAwHk/QABgzk6A= Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:07:08 +0000 Message-ID: <1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF849@NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com> References: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.98.134] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF849NKGEML512MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/Pwb-DOfklnSrm3-FJitok5Pq9_o Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:07:21 -0000 --_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF849NKGEML512MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Beno=EEt, Thanks for your support. And the nit you pointed out would be fixed in the = next version. Best regards, Xiaohu From: ALBERT, Benoit (ca-cib) [mailto:benoit.albert@ca-cib.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:33 PM To: Susan Hares; idr wg Cc: Xuxiaohu Subject: RE: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Support. One nit : In section 6, there is a =AB RECOMMENTED =BB instead of =AB RECO= MMENDED =BB Beno=EEt ALBERT De : Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Susan Hares Envoy=E9 : mardi 23 d=E9cembre 2014 15:37 =C0 : idr wg Cc : 'Xuxiaohu' Objet : [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicat= e "support" or "no support". Thank you, Sue Hares This message and any attachments are intended for the sole use of its addre= ssee. If you are not the addressee, please immediately notify the sender and then= destroy the message. As this message and/or any attachments may have been altered without our kn= owledge, its content is not legally binding on Cr=E9dit Agricole Corporate = and Investment Bank. All rights reserved. Ce message et ses pi=E8ces jointes sont destin=E9s =E0 l'usage exclusif de = leur destinataire. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci d'en aviser imm=E9diatement l'= exp=E9diteur et de le d=E9truire ensuite. Le pr=E9sent message pouvant =EAtre alt=E9r=E9 =E0 notre insu, Cr=E9dit Agr= icole Corporate and Investment Bank ne peut pas =EAtre engag=E9 par son con= tenu. Tous droits r=E9serv=E9s. --_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF849NKGEML512MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Beno=EEt,

 

Thanks for your support. And the nit you pointed out would be fix= ed in the next version.

 

Best regards,

Xiaohu

 

From: ALBERT, Benoit (ca-cib) [mailto:benoit.albert@ca-cib.= com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:33 PM
To: Susan Hares; idr wg
Cc: Xuxiaohu
Subject: RE: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01

 

Support.

One nit&nb= sp;: In section 6, there is a =AB RECOMMENTED =BB instead = of  =AB RECOMMENDED =BB<= /span>

 

Beno=EEt ALBERT

 

De : Idr [mailto:idr= -bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Susan Hares
Envoy=E9 : mardi 23 d=E9cembre 2014 15:37
=C0 : idr wg
Cc : 'Xuxiaohu'
Objet : [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01

 

This is to begin a 2 Week WG ad= option call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01  (12/23/2014 to 01= /6/2014).  The draft can be accessed at:

 =

 http://datatracker.iet= f.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/.

 =

In your response, please discus= s the pros/cons of this approach and indicate “support” or R= 20;no support”.

 =

Thank you,

 =

Sue Hares

 =

 =

This message and any attachments are intended for the = sole use of its addressee.
If you are not the addressee, please immediately notify the sender and then= destroy the message.
As this message and/or any attachments may have been altered without our kn= owledge, its content is not legally binding on Cr=E9dit Agricole Corporate = and Investment Bank.
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--_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF849NKGEML512MBSchi_-- From nobody Wed Dec 24 17:08:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D70D1A6F5B for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:08:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YuV63nMOX-pd for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 993911A6F51 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:08:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BNH49726; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:08:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML406-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.37) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:08:22 +0000 Received: from NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.199]) by nkgeml406-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.37]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 09:08:12 +0800 From: Xuxiaohu To: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" , Susan Hares , idr wg Thread-Topic: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Thread-Index: AdAevaFpDeeSh60eTxGCTJRRuSQ2ogAY+4WQAC9lMvA= Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:08:11 +0000 Message-ID: <1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF855@NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com> References: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> <76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927337EFD1E@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927337EFD1E@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.98.134] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF855NKGEML512MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/qliK5zJ0XVloZg7jtrLj4MAs_B8 Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:08:29 -0000 --_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF855NKGEML512MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jie, Thanks for your support. And the nit you pointed out would be fixed in the = next version. Best regards, Xiaohu From: Dongjie (Jimmy) Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:36 AM To: Susan Hares; idr wg Cc: Xuxiaohu Subject: RE: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Support. I've read this draft and think it provides a useful mechanism for = performance routing. One nit: In section 6, [I-D.ietf-isis-te-metric-extensions] was mentioned t= wice, I guess one of them should be replaced with [I-D.ietf-ospf-te-metric-= extensions]. Best regards, Jie From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM To: idr wg Cc: Xuxiaohu Subject: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicat= e "support" or "no support". Thank you, Sue Hares --_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF855NKGEML512MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Jie,

 

Thanks for your support. And the nit you pointed out would be fix= ed in the next version.

 

Best regards,

Xiaohu

 

 

From: Dongjie (Jimmy)
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:36 AM
To: Susan Hares; idr wg
Cc: Xuxiaohu
Subject: RE: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01

 

Support. I’ve read this draft and think it provides a usefu= l mechanism for performance routing.

 

One nit: In section 6, [I-D.ietf-isis-te-metric-extensions] was m= entioned twice, I guess one of them should be replaced with [I-D.ietf-ospf-= te-metric-extensions].

 

Best regards,

Jie

 

From: Idr [mailto:i= dr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM
To: idr wg
Cc: Xuxiaohu
Subject: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing= -01

 

This is to begin a 2 Week WG ad= option call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01  (12/23/2014 to 01= /6/2014).  The draft can be accessed at:

 

 http://datatracker.iet= f.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/.

 

In your response, please discus= s the pros/cons of this approach and indicate “support” or R= 20;no support”.

 

Thank you,

 

Sue Hares

 

 

--_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF855NKGEML512MBSchi_-- From nobody Wed Dec 24 17:58:51 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844831A6F8E for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:58:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IpRn6cGRGCyC for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:58:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 906EB1A6F88 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:58:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BNH51873; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:58:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML408-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.39) by lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:58:46 +0000 Received: from NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.199]) by nkgeml408-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.39]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 09:58:42 +0800 From: Xuxiaohu To: Susan Hares , idr wg Thread-Topic: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Thread-Index: AdAevaFpDeeSh60eTxGCTJRRuSQ2ogBKKFEg Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:58:42 +0000 Message-ID: <1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF8D7@NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com> References: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> In-Reply-To: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.98.134] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF8D7NKGEML512MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/MDCZwKtyYpPgw1Szajirza0l0Rg Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:58:50 -0000 --_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF8D7NKGEML512MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support as a co-author. Best regards, Xiaohu From: Susan Hares [mailto:shares@ndzh.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM To: idr wg Cc: Xuxiaohu; John G. Scudder Subject: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicat= e "support" or "no support". Thank you, Sue Hares --_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF8D7NKGEML512MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support as a co-author.

 

Best regards,

Xiaohu

 

From: Susan Hares [mailto:shares@ndzh.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM
To: idr wg
Cc: Xuxiaohu; John G. Scudder
Subject: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01

 

This is to begin a 2 Week WG ad= option call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01  (12/23/2014 to 01= /6/2014).  The draft can be accessed at:

 

 http://datatracker.iet= f.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/.

 

In your response, please discus= s the pros/cons of this approach and indicate “support” or R= 20;no support”.

 

Thank you,

 

Sue Hares

 

 

--_000_1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF8D7NKGEML512MBSchi_-- From nobody Thu Dec 25 01:16:07 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5C01A874A for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:16:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WBfOgy2HhDq5 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias243.francetelecom.com [80.12.204.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 135321A873E for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from omfeda07.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.200]) by omfeda14.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 2BAEB2AC38F; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:16:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme2.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.31.5]) by omfeda07.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 017211580BB; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:16:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCLILM23.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([169.254.2.56]) by OPEXCLILH01.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:16:01 +0100 From: To: Xuxiaohu , Susan Hares , idr wg Thread-Topic: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Thread-Index: AQHQH+Zanx0xFfbwMEqHKfzSKNnlw5ygBn7Q Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 09:16:00 +0000 Message-ID: <5646_1419498961_549BD5D1_5646_1733_1_88132E969123D14D9BD844E1CD516EDE05D2D301@OPEXCLILM23.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> <1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF8D7@NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF8D7@NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.5] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_88132E969123D14D9BD844E1CD516EDE05D2D301OPEXCLILM23corp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 6.0.3.2322014, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2014.12.16.134821 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/x7if5tv6aKL1f2GbVrK7cuROSEc Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 09:16:06 -0000 --_000_88132E969123D14D9BD844E1CD516EDE05D2D301OPEXCLILM23corp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello WG, I too support (as a co-author) the adoption of draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting as an idr WG document. Cheers, Christian. De : Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Xuxiaohu Envoy=E9 : jeudi 25 d=E9cembre 2014 02:59 =C0 : Susan Hares; idr wg Objet : Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Support as a co-author. Best regards, Xiaohu From: Susan Hares [mailto:shares@ndzh.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM To: idr wg Cc: Xuxiaohu; John G. Scudder Subject: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicat= e "support" or "no support". 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Hello WG,

 

I too support (as a co-author) the adoption = of draft-xu-idr-performance-routing as an idr WG document.

 

Cheers,

 

Christian.

 

De : Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Xuxiaohu
Envoy=E9 : jeudi 25 d=E9cembre 2014 02:59
=C0 : Susan Hares; idr wg
Objet : Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance= -routing-01

 

Support as a co-author.

 

Best regards,

Xiaohu

 

From: Susan Hares [mailto:shares@ndzh.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM
To: idr wg
Cc: Xuxiaohu; John G. Scudder
Subject: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01

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--_000_88132E969123D14D9BD844E1CD516EDE05D2D301OPEXCLILM23corp_-- From nobody Thu Dec 25 02:53:27 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F0F1A878E for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 02:53:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.022 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.022 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0zLmmR3qus2q for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 02:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ig0-x235.google.com (mail-ig0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1E2F1A8783 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 02:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ig0-f181.google.com with SMTP id l13so8465109iga.8 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 02:53:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iUKmMMiS6CElaVMevTowwAaWJZJwJHJOpiVLVJLnQeg=; b=WLeSMmooZrb8kThFmLIco3pBVR/JSGEl3GokI0TV6RYYZN0F182RJG8cR4bdIzHf0j NwDgnQWXRAh5B/YrJrrOjE7/Zijkui1yrc8KTafGqkvwhPDwRVUiUfYzJsHsSVNoOXff p5VtjhDPnR8jBTq+U4D5Ew3blWIZ8I4iC7VKf2X5/e/BvnmmXQ2S/GxXwMJ1iZR15OS/ ecYfNFZpw6oyNqghoQvLyRXz4cTFPg8fI3Sv0Z/W3DycIh9s1h+Wkprt9RjuBbX1sLGP SU073dM/PqEqmQc81iPHndH4ZXFVMaBQ7PdpWwrQ7g694eYAv1J944s0CGIzZV4M+lKA 8+WQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.164.213 with SMTP id d82mr34415967ioj.75.1419504803803; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 02:53:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: rraszuk@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.152.130 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 02:53:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF8D7@NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com> References: <002301d01ebd$f7479460$e5d6bd20$@ndzh.com> <1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE082EF8D7@NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:53:23 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tSvYP3dqgb18KvMnoX0waUR9Cx4 Message-ID: From: Robert Raszuk To: Xuxiaohu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/UwBqoRTyvxC_f3Pj--CJF5GCpHE Cc: idr wg Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:53:26 -0000 Hello Xu, Few questions before I make my mind on "support" or "no support" :) ... * How often intermediate nodes are supposed to re-test the latency and readvertised the new value ? * What is the permitted hysteresis when change will not trigger the readvertisement ? * How do you account for transit delay via network nodes which set next hop self (example EBGP peers) ? * In the case of SR being used which allows effectively per prefix path selection how does test to per next hop helps in anything ? * Do you intend to allow AIGP type 1 and new type to co-exist ? - - - How about talking or at least discussing in this draft a completely different approach of just marking by regular community ingress to the domain (or set of domains) an originator address which would not change across BGP hops? That would enable quick testing of end to end real path delay by those BGP speakers which are interested in doing so. The advantages are flexibility to enable it only for say small subset of very important prefixes on a perhaps few BGP speakers and no requirement for any new capability or BGP upgrades domain/set of domains wide. Last but not least your proposal may perhaps work when you have BGP control plane present on actual data plane devices. Now think how your proposal brings any value when your control plane is 100% decoupled from data plane devices and operates on few x86 blades not co-located with data plane ? Or worse how your draft is useful when BGP is moved to the "cloud". Cheers, R. On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 2:58 AM, Xuxiaohu wrote: > Support as a co-author. > > > > Best regards, > > Xiaohu > > > > From: Susan Hares [mailto:shares@ndzh.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM > To: idr wg > Cc: Xuxiaohu; John G. Scudder > Subject: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 > > > > This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for > draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I do support the adoption of draft-xu-idr-performance-routing as WG documen= t. I have however a comment. In section 9, Security Considerations, bullet a, = it is mentioned that =E2=80=9Cit MUST disable Performance Routing Capabilit= y negotiation between BGP peers which belong to different administration do= mains.=E2=80=9D As stated along the draft, the performance-based routing ca= pability is created to offer performance route selection criteria to custom= ers of service providers which own networks formed by different ASes. In my= understanding those customers are clearly different administration domains= with regard the one of the service provider. Then Performance Routing Capa= bility has to be enabled in that cases. So I would relax the sentence in th= e way: =E2=80=9Cit MAY be disabled =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D or something like tha= t, to be consistent with the aim of the draft. Thanks Best regards Luis From: Susan Hares [mailto:shares@ndzh.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM To: idr wg Cc: Xuxiaohu; John G. Scudder Subject: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicat= e =E2=80=9Csupport=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno support=E2=80=9D. Thank you, Sue Hares ________________________________ Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, pu= ede contener informaci=C3=B3n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso exc= lusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el destinatario = indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci=C3=B3n, divulgaci= =C3=B3n y/o copia sin autorizaci=C3=B3n puede estar prohibida en virtud de = la legislaci=C3=B3n vigente. 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Hi all,

 

I do support the adoption of draft-xu-idr-performance-r= outing as WG document.

 

I have however a comment. In section 9, Security Consid= erations, bullet a, it is mentioned that =E2=80=9Cit MUST disable Performan= ce Routing Capability negotiation between BGP peers which belong to different administration domains.=E2=80=9D As stated= along the draft, the performance-based routing capability is created to of= fer performance route selection criteria to customers of service providers = which own networks formed by different ASes. In my understanding those customers are clearly different administration d= omains with regard the one of the service provider. Then Performance Routin= g Capability has to be enabled in that cases. So I would relax the sentence= in the way: =E2=80=9Cit MAY be disabled =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D or something like that, to be consistent  with the= aim of  the draft.

 

Thanks

 

Best regards

 

Luis

 

From: Susan Hares [mailto:shares@ndzh.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM
To: idr wg
Cc: Xuxiaohu; John G. Scudder
Subject: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01

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This is t= o begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01&n= bsp; (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014).  The draft can be accessed at:

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 = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/.=

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In your r= esponse, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicate =E2=80= =9Csupport=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno support=E2=80=9D.

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Thank you= ,

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(coffee !=3D sleep) & (!coffee =3D=3D sleep) Donald.Smith@centurylink.com ________________________________ From: Idr [idr-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO= [luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@telefonica.com] Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:15 AM To: idr@ietf.org Cc: shares@ndzh.com Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 Hi all, I do support the adoption of draft-xu-idr-performance-routing as WG documen= t. I have however a comment. In section 9, Security Considerations, bullet a, = it is mentioned that =93it MUST disable Performance Routing Capability nego= tiation between BGP peers which belong to different administration domains.= =94 As stated along the draft, the performance-based routing capability is = created to offer performance route selection criteria to customers of servi= ce providers which own networks formed by different ASes. In my understandi= ng those customers are clearly different administration domains with regard= the one of the service provider. Then Performance Routing Capability has t= o be enabled in that cases. So I would relax the sentence in the way: =93it= MAY be disabled =85=94 or something like that, to be consistent with the = aim of the draft. Thanks Best regards Luis From: Susan Hares [mailto:shares@ndzh.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM To: idr wg Cc: Xuxiaohu; John G. Scudder Subject: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draft can be accessed at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indicat= e =93support=94 or =93no support=94. 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Good catch, I think: MUST be able to be disabled per peer/AS/session (so= you can offer it intra peer, where when you want.)

 

(coffee !=3D sleep) & (!coffee =3D=3D sleep)
 Donald.Smith@centuryl= ink.com
From: Idr [idr-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf= of LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO [luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@telefonica.c= om]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:15 AM
To: idr@ietf.org
Cc: shares@ndzh.com
Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-rou= ting-01

Hi all,

 

I do support the= adoption of draft-xu-idr-performance-routing as WG document.

 

I have however a= comment. In section 9, Security Considerations, bullet a, it is mentioned = that =93it MUST disable Performance Routing Capability negotiation between = BGP peers which belong to different administration domains.=94 As stated along the draft, the performance-based routing capab= ility is created to offer performance route selection criteria to customers= of service providers which own networks formed by different ASes. In my un= derstanding those customers are clearly different administration domains with regard the one of the service provid= er. Then Performance Routing Capability has to be enabled in that cases. So= I would relax the sentence in the way: =93it MAY be disabled =85=94 or som= ething like that, to be consistent  with the aim of  the draft.

 

Thanks

 

Best regards

 

Luis

 

From: Susan = Hares [mailto:shares@n= dzh.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM
To: idr wg
Cc: Xuxiaohu; John G. Scudder
Subject: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01

 

This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for= draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01  (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). = The draft can be accessed at:

 

 http://datatracker.= ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/.

 

In your response, please discuss the pros/cons= of this approach and indicate =93support=94 or =93no support=94.

 

Thank you,

 

Sue Hares

 

 



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--_000_68EFACB32CF4464298EA2779B058889D24C778C7PDDCWMBXEX503ct_-- From nobody Thu Dec 25 11:35:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDAB1A1A46 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:35:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.022 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.022 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qWSjcF_JzRDO for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E2931A1A06 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id y20so8844251ier.4 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:35:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lRMPHGe0D6g0/fDcc4ETKv8n2oMEN8mKbj4yn8J69UA=; b=BmpbUbJmeTmizZfary3pGLeqnPo7npg5mHxH0+mffjzfZ1KmkNhfrH4h7xn9fHcWPO v69HZtU3va5Mo95d9sH1/cFWwXkvfWM3dWikL872Tiem7PtYfxldPkVHW80gr1azYu9H ZJVgMdakV+wLq6bRuDExX0ViQzo65oqPk6vDmaR4EHyu4zQxmt9mMOpYYA32itiFpU0h Jn/QPV8g6FZYuKGH0Z+LoPi1kNCzTF4m5C4S497fyQmvCv+ieUHaqtdH0jstLp+YtdZm gZ1RxODemNUh2YOcHK4U3u++v+DXXN9IM6C1YD882fgEuv6V5VWCU9hklPdMwbZuRg/H c+YA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.44.104 with SMTP id d8mr31869848igm.9.1419536134837; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:35:34 -0800 (PST) Sender: rraszuk@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.152.130 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:35:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <68EFACB32CF4464298EA2779B058889D24C778C7@PDDCWMBXEX503.ctl.intranet> References: <68EFACB32CF4464298EA2779B058889D24C778C7@PDDCWMBXEX503.ctl.intranet> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 20:35:34 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ngSceS19UNScMN8FYC1QON_3QqM Message-ID: From: Robert Raszuk To: "Smith, Donald" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/wtWJRPv_Wi6-SXcDgHWp7cVJjU8 Cc: "idr@ietf.org" , "shares@ndzh.com" Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 19:35:38 -0000 The question here is what should be the default behavior. With your suggestions "MUST be able to be disabled" the default is ON which I think would be wrong. If anything one may consider: "MUST be able to be enabled" Cheers, r. On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Smith, Donald wrote: > Good catch, I think: MUST be able to be disabled per peer/AS/session (so = you > can offer it intra peer, where when you want.) > > > > (coffee !=3D sleep) & (!coffee =3D=3D sleep) > Donald.Smith@centurylink.com > ________________________________ > From: Idr [idr-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURIL= LO > [luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@telefonica.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:15 AM > To: idr@ietf.org > Cc: shares@ndzh.com > Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-= 01 > > Hi all, > > > > I do support the adoption of draft-xu-idr-performance-routing as WG > document. > > > > I have however a comment. In section 9, Security Considerations, bullet a= , > it is mentioned that =E2=80=9Cit MUST disable Performance Routing Capabil= ity > negotiation between BGP peers which belong to different administration > domains.=E2=80=9D As stated along the draft, the performance-based routin= g > capability is created to offer performance route selection criteria to > customers of service providers which own networks formed by different ASe= s. > In my understanding those customers are clearly different administration > domains with regard the one of the service provider. Then Performance > Routing Capability has to be enabled in that cases. So I would relax the > sentence in the way: =E2=80=9Cit MAY be disabled =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D or so= mething like that, to be > consistent with the aim of the draft. > > > > Thanks > > > > Best regards > > > > Luis > > > > From: Susan Hares [mailto:shares@ndzh.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:37 PM > To: idr wg > Cc: Xuxiaohu; John G. Scudder > Subject: WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 > > > > This is to begin a 2 Week WG adoption call for > draft-xu-idr-performance-routing-01 (12/23/2014 to 01/6/2014). The draf= t > can be accessed at: > > > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-idr-performance-routing/. > > > > In your response, please discuss the pros/cons of this approach and indic= ate > =E2=80=9Csupport=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno support=E2=80=9D. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Sue Hares > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, > puede contener informaci=C3=B3n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso > exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el > destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilizaci=C3= =B3n, > divulgaci=C3=B3n y/o copia sin autorizaci=C3=B3n puede estar prohibida en= virtud de la > legislaci=C3=B3n vigente. 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received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: juniper.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 29 Dec 2014 09:14:04.4414 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM2PR0501MB1017 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/DJ0jZjRNOEIzNuia0waSvqFSzOE Subject: Re: [Idr] clarification required in draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-v6 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 09:14:13 -0000 Hi Andy, Following text is from new version of draft: draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-v6-06 ----snap---- The following example demonstrates the new prefix encoding for: "all packets to ::1234:5678:9A00:0/64-104 from 192::/8 and port {range [137, 139] or 8080}". In the destination prefix, "80-" represents the prefix offset of 80 bits. In this exmaple, the 0 offset is omitted from the printed source prefix. +---------------------------+-------------+-------------------------+ | destination | source | port | +---------------------------+-------------+-------------------------+ | 0x01 68 50 12 34 56 78 9A | 02 00 08 c0 | 04 03 89 45 8b 91 1f 90 |= =3D=3D> offset is given as 50 but it should be 40. +---------------------------+-------------+-------------------------+ ----snap---- In example prefix offset is not correct. Offset is given as 50 instead of 4= 0. Please update it in next respin. Thanks & Regards, Ravi -----Original Message----- From: Andy Karch (akarch) [mailto:akarch@cisco.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:54 AM To: Ravi M R; robert@raszuk.net; Burjiz Pithawala (bpithaw); dmcpherson@ver= isign.com; idr@ietf.org Subject: RE: clarification required in draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-v6 Hi Ravi, My apologies on the previous reply... The text should read "all packets to ::1234:5678:9A00:0/64-104". The paylo= ad is 5 bytes (40 bits).=20 The encoding below remains the same. -Andy -----Original Message----- From: Andy Karch (akarch)=20 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 3:05 PM To: 'Ravi M R'; robert@raszuk.net; Burjiz Pithawala (bpithaw); dmcpherson@v= erisign.com; idr@ietf.org Subject: RE: clarification required in draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-v6 Hi Ravi, You're correct in pointing out the error. This was already found, but the u= pdate hasn't been posted yet. The intention is to have 80-104 as there is = 24 bits (6 bytes) of payload in the prefix, so the hex changes to 0x50 for = the offset. Please note the prefix offset and length have been swapped back to length b= efore offset. There is some history around this where a request was made t= o have offset before length (for readability and coding), before any known = implantation existed. Later an implementation was revealed to be shipping= , so it was reverted. In the example, the intention is to demonstrate that the offset "don't care= " bits are not included in the prefix encoding. They would just be 0's any= way. This is consistent with unicast prefixes where only enough bytes for = *length* bits are encoded and the trailing bits are irrelevant. Similarly,= we only need "length minus offset bits" (as worded in draft) to encode Flo= wSpec's prefix, with the added prefix offset dimension. This does not requ= ire octet boundaries. For example, the prefix with offset 5 and length 11 = would require 6 bits (1 byte -- b 11111100), but if you enforced octet boun= daries, it would require 2 bytes (b 00000111 11100000). I'll include a more verbose example to demonstrate this point. Thanks, -Andy Type 2 - Source IPv6 Prefix Encoding: Defines the source prefix to match. Prefix offset has been defined to allow for flexible matching on part of the IPv6 address where we want to skip (don't care) of N first bits of the address. This can be especially useful where part of the IPv6 address consists of an embedded IPv4 address and matching needs to happen only on the embedded IPv4 address. The encoded prefix contains enough octets for the bits used in matching (length minus offset bits). -----Original Message----- From: Ravi M R [mailto:mrravi@juniper.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 4:43 AM To: robert@raszuk.net; Burjiz Pithawala (bpithaw); dmcpherson@verisign.com;= Andy Karch (akarch); idr@ietf.org Subject: clarification required in draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-v6 Hi Authors, In the example given in section-3 of draft, "80-" represents the prefix of= fset of 80 bits". This seems to be wrong and should be 64 instead of 80. --Extract from draft begin--- The following example demonstrates the new prefix encoding for: "all packets to ::1234:5678:9A00:0/80-104 from 192::/8 and port {range [137, 139] or 8080}". In the destination prefix, "80-" represents the prefix offset of 80 bits. In this exmaple, the 0 offset is omitted from the printed source prefix. +---------------------------+-------------+-------------------------+ | destination | source | port | +---------------------------+-------------+-------------------------+ | 0x01 40 68 12 34 56 78 9A | 02 00 08 c0 | 04 03 89 45 8b 91 1f 90 | +---------------------------+-------------+-------------------------+ --Extract from draft end--- Also is it required that prefix-offset should be at byte boundry (i.e. mult= iples of 8)?=20 If not, then providing an example in draft will be helpful as encoding/deco= ding can involve tedious bit level operations in such cases. Ex: offset is 13 bits and prefix length is 110 bits for a IPv6 address. In = this case, 97 bits from 13th to 110 bit should be encoded in NLRI. Thanks & Regards, Ravi