From nobody Thu Feb 1 10:32:46 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAB012EB63 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 10:32:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.919 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.919 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jx7oiEf50Krb for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 10:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42C6612EBD1 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 10:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from spectre ([173.8.184.78]) by :SMTPAUTH: with SMTP id hJcweA0NDMr1OhJcwe5TXH; Thu, 01 Feb 2018 11:30:27 -0700 From: "Peter Yee" To: "'Acee Lindem \(acee\)'" , Cc: , , References: <151742784118.25776.17327902459691887464@ietfa.amsl.com> <09CF58BB-2429-4603-905F-1DC729480C0C@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <09CF58BB-2429-4603-905F-1DC729480C0C@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 10:30:37 -0800 Message-ID: <062601d39b8a$c1d5e910$4581bb30$@akayla.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQDyT8lbQjdZfanubnWGnFESailRLwM0dQmUpTjQdMA= Content-Language: en-us X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfDEuNayh/Zx0lGADdXYRmOF9cwnXpfdoYpiFz3lTdF842Xp07zz2DbliewLV9LyxiC6IxyzY8pD8NJB6r8+0jhxoP+tytrO8vKesB5dc6FBOK+kbL0iy 4XgFRy+Qg5IUk0W5hyhtVH/jI2L8Fwii2qkbcjSud/x+d68qF2+3LTeGnD1Q/W0E+PJhlEJdcVcjYQ1QhcyGMzBZMlvUC68Crsv18p9NVIlmNZz3KrldzWcT 0ehtMEesyzihi78kEf1iTMKUvlwaEDIB0fIimN9mxj4= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-10 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 18:32:44 -0000 Acee, Thanks for the quick response.=20 >> Change "extendibility" to "extensibility" throughout the document. >No - see https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/extendibility Yeah, I looked over various dictionaries for that word. Extensibility = seemed to be more popular and in some dictionaries closer to what you = meant, but either will work. >> Page 4, Section 1, 4th paragraph, 1st sentence: delete the comma. >I'm not sure exactly which comma you are referring to but I believe the = punctuation is correct before "reducing". That should have been Page 3. Typo on my part. I appreciate you addressing my comments (tardy as they were). -Peter -----Original Message----- From: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:acee@cisco.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:02 PM To: Peter Yee; gen-art@ietf.org Cc: idr@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; = draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid.all@ietf.org Subject: Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-10 Hi Peter,=20 Thanks for the review, please see inline. =EF=BB=BFOn 1/31/18, 2:44 PM, "Peter Yee" wrote: Reviewer: Peter Yee Review result: Ready with Nits =20 I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. =20 For more information, please see the FAQ at =20 . =20 Document: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-10 Reviewer: Peter Yee Review Date: 2018-01-31 IETF LC End Date: 2018-01-26 IESG Telechat date: 2018-02-08 =20 Summary: This draft specifies an optional BGP attribute for use with = Segment Routing. It's well written and reable, although I make no claims to = being an expert in this area. The draft is ready for publication but has = some nits that should be fixed (really nothing major). =20 Major issues: =20 Minor issues: =20 Nits/editorial comments: =20 General: =20 Change "extendibility" to "extensibility" throughout the document. No - see https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/extendibility =20 Change "First Come, First Served" (with varying hyphenation) to = simply "first-come, first-served" in a few places. Meaning making it lower = case and hyphenate consistently. I've made this consistent with IANA terminology. =20 Specific. =20 Page 3, Section 1, 1st paragraph, 2nd sentence: change the colon to = a comma. Fixed. =20 Page 3, Section 1, 3rd paragraph, 1st sentence: append comma after = the close parenthesis, "label", and "Dataplane". Fixed. =20 Page 4, Section 1, 4th paragraph, 1st sentence: delete the comma. I'm not sure exactly which comma you are referring to but I believe the = punctuation is correct before "reducing".=20 =20 Page 4, Section 1, 4th paragraph, last sentence: consider making = "Segment" lower case for consistency with previous usage. Fixed. =20 Page 4, Section 2.1, 2nd indented paragraph, 2nd sentence: change = "to use" to "using". Changed=20 =20 Page 7, Section 3.2, 1st paragraph, 2nd sentence: should the uses of = "will be" throughout the document be changed to "MUST"? I've consistently used MUST throughout.=20 =20 Page 8, 2nd bullet item (Length): insert "a" before "multiple". I've put it in parenthesis.=20 =20 Page 9, Section 4, 1st sentence: delete the comma. =20 Fixed. Page 9, Section 4.1, 3rd paragraph, 1st sentence: delete "as". Reworded. =20 Page 10, Section 4.2, 1st paragraph, 2nd sentence: delete the first = "the". Fixed. =20 Page 12, 1st paragraph, 2nd sentence: change "Similarily" to = "Similarly". Fixed. =20 Page 12, Section 7, 1st paragraph, 2nd sentence: insert "to" before = the first "the". 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Sun, 4 Feb 2018 14:30:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.71.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151778343820.5799.13245412484963037435@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 14:30:38 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-12.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 22:30:38 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP Authors : Stefano Previdi Clarence Filsfils Acee Lindem Arjun Sreekantiah Hannes Gredler Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-12.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2018-02-04 Abstract: Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) information. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-12 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-12 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-12 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Feb 5 05:20:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A122124B17; Mon, 5 Feb 2018 05:20:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org, Susan Hares , aretana.ietf@gmail.com, idr-chairs@ietf.org, shares@ndzh.com, idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.71.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151783680935.5649.17245782500316335449.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:20:09 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_No_Objection_on_draft-ie?= =?utf-8?q?tf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-12=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 13:20:10 -0000 Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-12: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Minor commets: 1) Maybe spell out NLRI on first occurrence (sec 2). 2) Given there are currently no flags defined, wouldn't it be sufficient to use the 8-bit reserved field for flags? Also do you really want to create an empty registry on a first-come first-serve basis for the flags now? Have there been any use cases discussed already? Is it likely that assignments will be made soon and is first-com first-serve the right policy for these expected assignments? Note that such registries can also be created at a later point when really needed. From nobody Mon Feb 5 08:23:27 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227F512D862; Mon, 5 Feb 2018 08:23:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alexey Melnikov To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org, Susan Hares , aretana.ietf@gmail.com, idr-chairs@ietf.org, shares@ndzh.com, idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.71.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151784780113.5775.6810585025425749754.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 08:23:21 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-12: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 16:23:21 -0000 Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-12: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I tend to agree with Mirja that you either don't currently need registry for flags or need it with a stricter policy than First Come First Served. Nits: 4. Receiving BGP Prefix-SID Attribute A BGP speaker receiving a BGP Prefix-SID attribute from an EBGP neighbor residing outside the boundaries of the SR domain MUST discard the attribute unless it is configured to accept the attribute from the EBGP neighbor. A BGP speaker MAY log an error for further analysis when discarding an attribute. Is there any reason why logging is just MAY? This would help big time in debugging issues. You are also using "SHOULD log" in other places in the document. So I suggest: MAY log an error ==> SHOULD log an error (Actually "MAY log" appears twice in the document) I suggest you use a more common "extensibility" instead of "extendibility", but maybe this is just me :-). 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This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP Authors : Stefano Previdi Clarence Filsfils Acee Lindem Arjun Sreekantiah Hannes Gredler Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2018-02-05 Abstract: Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) information. 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Tue, 6 Feb 2018 13:09:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alissa Cooper To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org, Susan Hares , aretana.ietf@gmail.com, idr-chairs@ietf.org, shares@ndzh.com, idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151795136069.8945.11144885952261038746.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2018 13:09:20 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2018 21:09:21 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Is there a different, less controversial example that could be given in the first paragraph of the document than "pass through deep packet inspection"? 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Acee, thanks for your = responses. I have entered a No Objection ballot. Alissa > On Feb 2, 2018, at 8:14 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: >=20 > Hi Peter,=20 >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 2/2/18, 1:47 AM, "Peter Yee" > wrote: >=20 > Reviewer: Peter Yee > Review result: Ready >=20 > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed > by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please wait for direction from your > document shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft. >=20 > For more information, please see the FAQ at >=20 > . >=20 > Document: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-11 > Reviewer: Peter Yee > Review Date: 2018-02-01 > IETF LC End Date: 2018-01-26 > IESG Telechat date: 2018-02-08 >=20 > Summary: This update incorporates most of the changes I noted for = the -10 > draft and is ready for publication. >=20 > Major issues: >=20 > Minor issues: >=20 > Nits/editorial comments: >=20 > Okay, maybe spell my surname correctly. ;-) >=20 > This will be in the -11 version along with removal of the extra comma = section 1 ;^)=20 >=20 > Thanks, > Acee=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gen-art mailing list > Gen-art@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art = --Apple-Mail=_CC007E6F-9144-4BDC-93A3-C34D362DE4D6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Peter, thanks for your reviews of this = document. Acee, thanks for your responses. I have entered a No Objection = ballot.

Alissa


On = Feb 2, 2018, at 8:14 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> = wrote:

Hi Peter, 

=EF=BB=BFOn 2/2/18, 1:47 AM, "Peter Yee" = <peter@akayla.com> = wrote:

   Reviewer: Peter Yee
   Review result: Ready

   I am the assigned = Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
   Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF = documents being processed
   by the IESG for the = IETF Chair. Please wait for direction from your
   document shepherd or AD before posting a = new version of the draft.

   For more information, please = see the FAQ at

   <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/gen/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
   Document: = draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-11
   Reviewer: Peter = Yee
   Review Date: = 2018-02-01
   IETF LC End Date: = 2018-01-26
   IESG Telechat date: = 2018-02-08

   Summary:  This update incorporates = most of the changes I noted for the -10
   draft and is ready for = publication.

   Major issues:

   Minor issues:

   Nits/editorial = comments:

   Okay, maybe spell my surname correctly. = ;-)

This will be in the = -11 version along with removal of the extra comma section 1 ;^) 

Thanks,
Acee 



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= --Apple-Mail=_CC007E6F-9144-4BDC-93A3-C34D362DE4D6-- From nobody Tue Feb 6 18:05:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0685912D0C3; Tue, 6 Feb 2018 18:05:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Rescorla To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org, Susan Hares , aretana.ietf@gmail.com, idr-chairs@ietf.org, shares@ndzh.com, idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151796912702.25907.1726029646562295362.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2018 18:05:27 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 02:05:27 -0000 Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BGP Prefix-SID attribute, it MUST program the derived label as the local label for the prefix in its MPLS dataplane. In case of any error, a BGP speaker MUST resort to the error handling rules This seems over-strong, as the next paragraph suggests that you might reject it due to policy. This document defines a new BGP attribute in order to address the use case described in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-msdc]. It i assumed that the new attribute (BGP Prefix-SID) advertisement is Nit: "is assumed", i think? inherits the security considerations expressed in: [RFC4271] and [RFC3107]. This section seems like it needs to discuss how the security of this mechanism interacts with BGPSEC, etc. Maybe it's just "the same as everything else" but perhaps not... 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:32 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Eric, > > =EF=BB=BFOn 2/6/18, 9:05 PM, "Eric Rescorla" wrote: > > Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut th= is > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria. > html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > BGP Prefix-SID attribute, it MUST program the derived label as the > local label for the prefix in its MPLS dataplane. In case of any > error, a BGP speaker MUST resort to the error handling rules > This seems over-strong, as the next paragraph suggests that you might > reject it > due to policy. > > I really don't see that MUST is incorrect since normally the attribute > would be validated prior to applying policy. > Oops. My bad. It's the first MUST that I am referring to, about programming in the label. > This document defines a new BGP attribute in order to address the > use > case described in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-msdc]. It i > assumed that the new attribute (BGP Prefix-SID) advertisement is > Nit: "is assumed", i think? > > This was fixed based in the -13 version. You must be looking at a previou= s > version. > Sorry about that. > > ment inherits the security considerations expressed in: [RFC4271] > and > [RFC3107]. > This section seems like it needs to discuss how the security of this > mechanism > interacts with BGPSEC, etc. Maybe it's just "the same as everything > else" but > perhaps not... > > The -13 version references RFC 8277 rather than RFC 3107 which has an > extensive "Security Considerations" section relative to MPLS label > advertisement. Do you want me to add that there are no security > considerations unique to [RFC8205]? > I think that would be helpful. -Ekr > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > > > > > --089e0828a13cf9d05c0564962c28 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:32 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) &l= t;acee@cisco.com>= ; wrote:
Hi Eric,

=EF=BB=BFOn 2/6/18, 9:05 PM, "Eric Rescorla" <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for =C2=A0 =C2=A0 draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: No Objection

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 When responding, please keep the subject line intact and repl= y to all
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free t= o cut this
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 introductory paragraph, however.)


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Please refer to https://www.i= etf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions= .


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found= here:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://datatracker.iet= f.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --------------------------------------------------------= --------------
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 COMMENT:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --------------------------------------------------------= --------------


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0BGP Prefix-SID attribute, it MUST program the de= rived label as the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0local label for the prefix in its MPLS dataplane= .=C2=A0 In case of any
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0error, a BGP speaker MUST resort to the error ha= ndling rules
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This seems over-strong, as the next paragraph suggests that y= ou might reject it
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 due to policy.

I really don't see that MUST is incorrect since normally the att= ribute would be validated prior to applying policy.
Oops. My bad. It's the first MUST that I am referring to, = about programming in
the label.

=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This document defines a new BGP attribute in ord= er to address the use
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0case described in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-= routing-msdc].=C2=A0 It i
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0assumed that the new attribute (BGP Prefix-SID) = advertisement is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Nit: "is assumed", i think?

This was fixed based in the -13 version. You must be looking at a pr= evious version.

Sorry about that.
=
=C2=A0

ment=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 inherits the security considerations expres= sed in: [RFC4271] and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[RFC3107].
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This section seems like it needs to discuss how the security = of this mechanism
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 interacts with BGPSEC, etc. Maybe it's just "the sam= e as everything else" but
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 perhaps not...

The -13 version references RFC 8277 rather than RFC 3107 which has a= n extensive "Security Considerations" section relative to MPLS la= bel advertisement. Do you want me to add that there are no security conside= rations unique to [RFC8205]?

I think th= at would be helpful.

-Ekr
=C2=A0

Thanks,
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Tue, 6 Feb 2018 21:40:40 -0500 From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" To: Eric Rescorla CC: The IESG , "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" , Susan Hares , "aretana.ietf@gmail.com" , "idr-chairs@ietf.org" , "idr@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: (with COMMENT) Thread-Index: AQHTn7vpmadhHcVCzUGLosjZ9EFhSqOYjVaA//+tQYA= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 02:40:40 +0000 Message-ID: <1E1E2E19-5DE7-493D-A834-F75176F40ECC@cisco.com> References: <151796912702.25907.1726029646562295362.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <17701EAE-7F78-4621-B624-AFAFD40ECE27@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.116.152.195] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1E1E2E195DE7493DA834F75176F40ECCciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on 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(with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 04:13:24 -0000 Suresh Krishnan has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't see how the MUST in this receiving behavior in Section 4.2. "However, a BGP Prefix-SID attribute corresponding to the BGP IPv6 address family without an IPv6 SID TLV MUST be ignored." makes sense with the MAY in the sending behavior "A BGP speaker that originates an IPv6 prefix with the BGP Prefix-SID attribute MAY include the IPv6 SID TLV." Can you please clarify? From nobody Wed Feb 7 01:32:51 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CF0126CC7 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 01:32:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9H-56JwcQKil for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 01:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 355DC126BF0 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 01:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id 143so1825654wma.5 for ; Wed, 07 Feb 2018 01:32:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LI3mKhK4DAHA1a0p2dRCOd0wcUAbbo7Sa7rawrH6umk=; b=vXg+Z0ep86appB5sKwRLdKFb5aP/djQnPttxwOAoQ6zT/q5flJmWIhBj1Dw3rK4KmU LGT3Ih6rIdzfzzJWBUADUWliCL6JzeCssAb/7V6+YCjJz8XweMZwliYrQEWttKXvei0Z qVcudvwIRm4yrrcr2eU5joY7vjPHlNzgzKWRX7vTcUwf6jZANbJuT0B8XvpXt0+fo2RG A6uL7pDf/3aS1Osr4XLMSBqkzgT7vwkwQ0j81bWN1YX8dMmeY75JVXfZmmsgVHrPkIut Gk+yUxNhJxRo5Q0KYfT6cwlaUpXbFm4BeJLBf7ih5FWnS+KLSXDTsn0+VGaPkx2ec64g 6iYw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LI3mKhK4DAHA1a0p2dRCOd0wcUAbbo7Sa7rawrH6umk=; b=SgBR9w+8dB/m4FN/oxKK5QHPLnFCyroD5mTE9ZPT+TL0Z+pcuOgoC2ea+T23960d48 T6AcVl1CVDtsY34pE1Wn/yfsLxQiFX01JHkQ4pOmk/pa4RwWFapQ9AH12HjORSpGkLT2 4u4Z/9/uOQMvbTecwXCWbavFwpVwGzs0IqV9nX3Q5vzOetvMowA/jl2jRHdXqWMnXZIz jCH8mkUPlGZJSMx48md+jI9+bD5KuJeaeNg4Sy0UML7BErdbjbOn7WzjQ1Q0yx8Bo+1L VEvfFDH/AqlmnnE5Jd2yJyQzCStlLOmYk16+UYxwyZ0hDcJWjpNP0AoPVvHLAKAQuT93 PVAg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPAukMIOOboZLIn5yFrI4bFS/LA1hVkGm1t76wpQckbp7A/hpnpl Jy8CvpNya0lyrHTMT2sZOzn95hDuVve+UjcqEN9CSg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x225Le2i80lJJSqbFGIimHp/kcC8SjLBfdfjz/w9CL2jlaCgfY8z5m8+MYEQO4m+TYTbpUYOJ3+nIiXb87iv7lkI= X-Received: by 10.28.28.139 with SMTP id c133mr4030143wmc.144.1517995965532; Wed, 07 Feb 2018 01:32:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.163.84 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 01:32:45 -0800 (PST) From: PVLR Pavana Murthy Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 15:02:45 +0530 Message-ID: To: idr@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1144e6904bd18d05649bfa6f" Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] BGP Flowspec(RFC 5575) Numeric Operator for inequality (!=) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 09:32:49 -0000 --001a1144e6904bd18d05649bfa6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, As per the RFC 5575, 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | e | a | len | 0 | lt |gt | eq | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ eq - equality between data and value. The bits lt, gt, and eq can be combined to produce "less or equal", "greater or equal", and inequality values. For '<=' lt =1, gt =0, eq =1 For '>=' lt= 0, gt=1, eq =1 how to achieve inequality? Is it by making lt = 0, gt =0, eq =0 ? Please clarify. Thanks, Pavana. --001a1144e6904bd18d05649bfa6f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0As per the RFC 5575,=C2=A0 =C2=A0<= /div>

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+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| e=C2=A0 =C2=A0| a= |=C2=A0 =C2=A0len=C2=A0 =C2=A0| 0=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 lt |gt | eq |
+-= --+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

eq - eq= uality between data and value.
The bits lt, gt, and eq can be com= bined to produce "less or
equal", "greater or equa= l", and inequality values.

For '<= ;=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0 lt =3D1, gt =3D0, eq =3D1
For=C2=A0 '&= gt;=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0lt=3D 0, gt=3D1, eq =3D1

h= ow to achieve inequality? Is it by making lt =3D 0, gt =3D0, eq =3D0 ?
=C2=A0=C2=A0
Please clarify.

Thank= s,
Pavana.
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The text says: When a BGP speaker receives a path from a neighbor with an acceptable BGP Prefix-SID attribute, it MUST program the derived label as the local label for the prefix in its MPLS dataplane. IMO it is incorrect as stated as any label programming carried in the attribute MUST **only** take place if received path is actually selected as BGP best path for a given prefix. Otherwise it is completely wrong thing to do to install anything which is non best path. Likewise the BGP path which is either withdrawn or is valid but no longer best path should have labels carried in its attribute removed from data plane. Another interesting point also not discussed at all in the draft when carrying labels in the attribute is how do you handle multi-path ? Is that disabled when paths for a given net (and different next hops) have attributes with different labels ? Is this allowed such that label is a property of a tuple (prefix + next hop) and not just prefix - like current version of the draft describes in number of places ? Thx, Robert. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:40 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Eric, > > > > *From: *Eric Rescorla > *Date: *Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 9:37 PM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *The IESG , "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" = < > draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org>, Susan Hares , > Alvaro Retana , "idr-chairs@ietf.org" < > idr-chairs@ietf.org>, IDR List > *Subject: *Re: Eric Rescorla's No Objection on > draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: (with COMMENT) > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:32 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote= : > > Hi Eric, > > On 2/6/18, 9:05 PM, "Eric Rescorla" wrote: > > Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut th= is > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria. > html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > BGP Prefix-SID attribute, it MUST program the derived label as the > local label for the prefix in its MPLS dataplane. In case of any > error, a BGP speaker MUST resort to the error handling rules > This seems over-strong, as the next paragraph suggests that you might > reject it > due to policy. > > I really don't see that MUST is incorrect since normally the attribute > would be validated prior to applying policy. > > > > Oops. My bad. It's the first MUST that I am referring to, about > programming in > > the label. > > > > Ok =E2=80=93 I can see your point here. > > > > > > This document defines a new BGP attribute in order to address the > use > case described in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-msdc]. It i > assumed that the new attribute (BGP Prefix-SID) advertisement is > Nit: "is assumed", i think? > > This was fixed based in the -13 version. You must be looking at a previou= s > version. > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > > ment inherits the security considerations expressed in: [RFC4271] > and > [RFC3107]. > This section seems like it needs to discuss how the security of this > mechanism > interacts with BGPSEC, etc. Maybe it's just "the same as everything > else" but > perhaps not... > > The -13 version references RFC 8277 rather than RFC 3107 which has an > extensive "Security Considerations" section relative to MPLS label > advertisement. Do you want me to add that there are no security > considerations unique to [RFC8205]? > > > > I think that would be helpful. > > > > I will add this clarification and reference to RFC8205 in the -14 version= . > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > -Ekr > > > > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > --001a114b2d02ad121605649bfb4b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Acee,

<= /div>
Regarding this text I would actually question it mo= re then the policy point Eric was raising.=C2=A0
The text says:

   When a BGP speaker rec=
eives a path from a neighbor with an acceptable
   BGP Prefix-SID attribute, it MUST program the derived label as the
   local label for the prefix in its MPLS dataplane.

IMO it is incorrect as stated as any la= bel programming carried in the attribute MUST *<= b>only* take place if receiv= ed path is actually selected as BGP best path for a given prefix.=C2=A0=C2=A0Otherwise it is completely wrong thing to do to install anything w= hich is non best path.=C2=A0

Likewise the BGP path which is either withdrawn or is valid but = no longer best path should have labels carried in its attribute removed fro= m data plane.=C2=A0

An= other interesting point also not discussed at all in the draft when carryin= g labels in the attribute is how do you handle multi-path ? Is that disable= d when paths for a given net (and different next hops) have attributes with= different labels ? Is this allowed such that label is a property of a tupl= e (prefix + next hop) and not just prefix - like current version of the dra= ft describes in number of places ?=C2=A0

=
Thx,
Robert.



=
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:40 AM, Acee Lindem (ace= e) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Eric,

=C2=A0

From: Eric Rescorla <<= a href=3D"mailto:ekr@rtfm.com" target=3D"_blank">ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 9:37 PM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: The IESG <= iesg@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org>, Susan Ha= res <shares@ndzh.co= m>, Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>, "idr-chairs@ietf.org" <idr-chairs@ietf.org&g= t;, IDR List <idr@ietf= .org>
Subject: Re: Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-= prefix-sid-13: (with COMMENT)

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018= at 6:32 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Eric,

On 2/6/18, 9:05 PM, "Eric Rescorla" <ekr@rtfm.com<= span>> wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for =C2=A0 =C2=A0 draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: No Objection

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 When responding, please keep the subject line intact and repl= y to all
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free t= o cut this
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 introductory paragraph, however.)


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Please refer to https://www.ietf.or= g/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions= .


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found= here:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/<= br>


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --------------------------------------------------------= --------------
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 COMMENT:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --------------------------------------------------------= --------------


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0BGP Prefix-SID attribute, it MUST program the de= rived label as the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0local label for the prefix in its MPLS dataplane= .=C2=A0 In case of any
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0error, a BGP speaker MUST resort to the error ha= ndling rules
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This seems over-strong, as the next paragraph suggests that y= ou might reject it
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 due to policy.

I really don't see that MUST is incorrect since normally the attribute = would be validated prior to applying policy.

=C2=A0

Oops. My bad. It= 9;s the first MUST that I am referring to, about programming in

the label.

=C2=A0

Ok =E2=80=93 I can see your point here.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0This document defines a new BGP attribute in order to address the= use
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0case described in [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-= routing-msdc].=C2=A0 It i
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0assumed that the new attribute (BGP Prefix-SID) = advertisement is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Nit: "is assumed", i think?

This was fixed based in the -13 version. You must be looking at a previous = version.

=C2=A0

Sorry about that.

=C2=A0


ment=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 inherits the security considerations expres= sed in: [RFC4271] and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[RFC3107].
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This section seems like it needs to discuss how the security = of this mechanism
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 interacts with BGPSEC, etc. Maybe it's just "the sam= e as everything else" but
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 perhaps not...

The -13 version references RFC 8277 rather than RFC 3107 which has an exten= sive "Security Considerations" section relative to MPLS label adv= ertisement. Do you want me to add that there are no security considerations= unique to [RFC8205]?

=C2=A0

I think that would = be helpful.

=C2=A0

I will add this clarification and refer= ence to RFC8205 in the -14 version.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0

-Ekr<= /span>

=C2=A0


Thanks,
Acee






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Yes.

=
Thx,
R.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:32 AM, PVLR Pavana Murthy= <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Hello,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0As per the RFC 5575,=C2=A0 =C2=A0<= /div>

=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 =C2=A01=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A02=C2=A0 =C2=A03=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 =C2=A0 5=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6=C2=A0 =C2=A0= 7
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| e=C2=A0 =C2= =A0| a |=C2=A0 =C2=A0len=C2=A0 =C2=A0| 0=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 lt |gt | eq |
<= div>+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

<= div>eq - equality between data and value.
The bits lt, gt, and eq= can be combined to produce "less or
equal", "grea= ter or equal", and inequality values.

F= or '<=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0 lt =3D1, gt =3D0, eq =3D1
For= =C2=A0 '>=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0lt=3D 0, gt=3D1, eq =3D1
how to achieve inequality? Is it by making lt =3D 0, gt =3D0, e= q =3D0 ?
=C2=A0=C2=A0
Please clarify.

Thanks,
Pavana.

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--f403045cf0e2d63bf605649c0210-- From nobody Wed Feb 7 01:52:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3239126BF0 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 01:52:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QNb3PVl_lRdb for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 01:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8A7C1243F3 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 01:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id r71so1980952wmd.1 for ; Wed, 07 Feb 2018 01:52:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=6DF4jq+DkiuR2czM2qwxcEuEbqAH+nvmjCLc8ce+wVw=; b=Dmq+WDhMpxFWH6js4Ctq8Pi/HKOM1Y2wAdivM3WKmDeTsnd1P+Bcxe/IOc6NcUz9Yk icekbxDcyK6+GFXKxGcwamUlyso6i+A4yASKKwuYs/Ud81dQxDTJTSe4+6OmH6mRVr/Z RQw3selOYQ3ddMwqAo3KY+mjLnHw4FTxKP/DYat2SWaV/SORdnWoR12TBEtRJX8MLptb Hg1SbZMysVDyhyCyUkUwpTKbFiqMqrsPsW4LDqdBBFTGfaza/+wVlzYKstwRSsp/m8mh EHt+kfO3YLP3tYntyuSexpTjN/+mYVrdtlqN9rFUuBwrDXfCbJyE9vgFhyzeX0ctoq9s Je5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6DF4jq+DkiuR2czM2qwxcEuEbqAH+nvmjCLc8ce+wVw=; b=Vfeo+9hz/ziLLE7SEnMMwfhsBPo65Bs4k+fUs7JNDX6kat1/HCHvhFZff/KP+/vtUa Ke6KDFv5Kg84ivGBhQzF95MWJ6X/0off5j5FZajTnE+cUiA9dUtIyzAaSHXI+7Kn647v ILhs8VddMUZlmxekub4KXmuuOOnDpo33ezOTYM0mP4yvipUu4ooSgiSASGkVaNwRW8ML k9l2UfnqRGhB2MLEkrU0YJZPqIbqpBtYtCh9yakvR6S9tvzJroaHjwOsBUxvYnhqaiy1 ++CGwsAulI1ZTYq77E+WwtF+IeJHoxZNhjgM4Ngcy3iw42ocqNHBNtGEg/gbkCNkmJY6 4coA== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDeymXoe/8R+lfB6ZbA4RIDYKmZeCit/ZYdgFx2FRutep9Y53yb qtD4Q9MKHSTrpG3DfjIcpVm5IXwy/wt3Aso0h0M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x226b0oNlaRocHEpZnMfeI4QatkbokepZicFfHU+u8e2aaYqyFx9JxQ1pYfn8cYhWv9M5CuKyf9l3SPPw/DO9Jhw= X-Received: by 10.28.28.139 with SMTP id c133mr4075336wmc.144.1517997119370; Wed, 07 Feb 2018 01:51:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.163.84 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 01:51:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: PVLR Pavana Murthy Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 15:21:58 +0530 Message-ID: To: Robert Raszuk Cc: idr wg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1144e69011f90e05649c3fb3" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] BGP Flowspec(RFC 5575) Numeric Operator for inequality (!=) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 09:52:03 -0000 --001a1144e69011f90e05649c3fb3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, Thanks for quick response. If all lt=1, gt=1, eq=1, what should be done ? Thanks, Pavana. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Yes. > > Thx, > R. > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:32 AM, PVLR Pavana Murthy > wrote: > >> Hello, >> As per the RFC 5575, >> >> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ >> | e | a | len | 0 | lt |gt | eq | >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ >> >> eq - equality between data and value. >> The bits lt, gt, and eq can be combined to produce "less or >> equal", "greater or equal", and inequality values. >> >> For '<=' lt =1, gt =0, eq =1 >> For '>=' lt= 0, gt=1, eq =1 >> >> how to achieve inequality? Is it by making lt = 0, gt =0, eq =0 ? >> >> Please clarify. >> >> Thanks, >> Pavana. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Idr mailing list >> Idr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >> >> > --001a1144e69011f90e05649c3fb3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
=C2=A0 Thanks for quick response. If=C2=A0 all = lt=3D1, gt=3D1, eq=3D1, what should be done ?=C2=A0=C2=A0

Thanks,
Pavana.=C2=A0

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Robert Ra= szuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:
Yes.

=
Thx,
R.
<= br>
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at= 10:32 AM, PVLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0As per the RFC 5575,=C2=A0 =C2=A0
<= br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 =C2=A01=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 = =C2=A03=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 =C2=A0 5=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6=C2=A0 =C2=A07
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| e=C2=A0 =C2=A0| a |=C2= =A0 =C2=A0len=C2=A0 =C2=A0| 0=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 lt |gt | eq |
+---+--= -+---+---+---+---+---+---+

eq - eq= uality between data and value.
The bits lt, gt, and eq can be com= bined to produce "less or
equal", "greater or equa= l", and inequality values.

For '<= ;=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0 lt =3D1, gt =3D0, eq =3D1
For=C2=A0 '&= gt;=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0lt=3D 0, gt=3D1, eq =3D1

h= ow to achieve inequality? Is it by making lt =3D 0, gt =3D0, eq =3D0 ?
=C2=A0=C2=A0
Please clarify.

Thank= s,
Pavana.

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adding idr to To: list.
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:21 PM, PVLR Pavana Mu= rthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
=C2=A0 Thanks for quick response. If=C2=A0 = all lt=3D1, gt=3D1, eq=3D1, what should be done ?=C2=A0=C2=A0
Thanks,
Pavana.=C2=A0

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>= ; wrote:
Yes.

Thx,R.

<= div>
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:32 AM, P= VLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0As per the RFC 5575,=C2=A0 =C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 =C2=A01=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02= =C2=A0 =C2=A03=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 =C2=A0 5=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6=C2=A0 =C2=A07
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| e=C2=A0 =C2=A0| = a |=C2=A0 =C2=A0len=C2=A0 =C2=A0| 0=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 lt |gt | eq |
+= ---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

e= q - equality between data and value.
The bits lt, gt, and eq can = be combined to produce "less or
equal", "greater o= r equal", and inequality values.

For &#= 39;<=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0 lt =3D1, gt =3D0, eq =3D1
For=C2=A0 = '>=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0lt=3D 0, gt=3D1, eq =3D1

=
how to achieve inequality? Is it by making lt =3D 0, gt =3D0, eq =3D0 = ?
=C2=A0=C2=A0
Please clarify.

Thanks,
Pavana.

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In the spirit of being liberal in what you accept such [op,value] should be ignored and error (sys)logged. Legal combinations are clearly listed in the text: lt=1 & eq=1, gt=1 & eq=1, all zeros. Thx, R. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:51 AM, PVLR Pavana Murthy wrote: > Hello, > Thanks for quick response. If all lt=1, gt=1, eq=1, what should be done > ? > > Thanks, > Pavana. > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > >> Yes. >> >> Thx, >> R. >> >> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:32 AM, PVLR Pavana Murthy >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> As per the RFC 5575, >>> >>> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 >>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ >>> | e | a | len | 0 | lt |gt | eq | >>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ >>> >>> eq - equality between data and value. >>> The bits lt, gt, and eq can be combined to produce "less or >>> equal", "greater or equal", and inequality values. >>> >>> For '<=' lt =1, gt =0, eq =1 >>> For '>=' lt= 0, gt=1, eq =1 >>> >>> how to achieve inequality? Is it by making lt = 0, gt =0, eq =0 ? >>> >>> Please clarify. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Pavana. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Idr mailing list >>> Idr@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >>> >>> >> > --001a114b2d0271237405649c99ad Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That's= illegal combination as value can not be "less then" and "gr= eater then" a given value in the same time.=C2=A0

In the spirit of being liberal in what you= accept such [op,value] should be ignored and error (sys)logged.=C2=A0

Legal combinations are cle= arly listed in the text: lt=3D1 & eq=3D1,=C2=A0=C2=A0gt=3D1 & eq=3D1, all zeros.

Thx,
R.
<= br>

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:51 AM, PVLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrp= m@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
=C2=A0 Thanks for quick response. If=C2=A0 all lt=3D1,= gt=3D1, eq=3D1, what should be done ?=C2=A0=C2=A0

Thanks,
Pavana.=C2=A0

On Wed, = Feb 7, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wr= ote:
Yes.

Thx,
R.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:32 AM, PVLR P= avana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0As per the RFC 5575,=C2=A0 =C2=A0
<= div>
=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 =C2=A01=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02= =C2=A0 =C2=A03=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 =C2=A0 5=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6=C2=A0 =C2=A07
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| e=C2=A0 =C2=A0| = a |=C2=A0 =C2=A0len=C2=A0 =C2=A0| 0=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 lt |gt | eq |
+= ---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

e= q - equality between data and value.
The bits lt, gt, and eq can = be combined to produce "less or
equal", "greater o= r equal", and inequality values.

For &#= 39;<=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0 lt =3D1, gt =3D0, eq =3D1
For=C2=A0 = '>=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0lt=3D 0, gt=3D1, eq =3D1

=
how to achieve inequality? Is it by making lt =3D 0, gt =3D0, eq =3D0 = ?
=C2=A0=C2=A0
Please clarify.

Thanks,
Pavana.

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--001a114b2d0271237405649c99ad-- From nobody Wed Feb 7 03:08:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B18126C0F for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 03:08:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tDglFwtw3y8n for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 03:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hated.at (mail.hated.at [IPv6:2001:858:2:8::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD39C124D6C for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 03:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from 213-225-4-231.nat.highway.a1.net ([213.225.4.231] helo=[10.62.143.153]) by mail.hated.at with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ejNIB-0000Y5-Hh; Wed, 07 Feb 2018 11:49:33 +0100 From: Christoph Loibl To: Robert Raszuk , PVLR Pavana Murthy CC: idr wg Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 12:08:29 +0100 Message-ID: <1616ff3dfc8.27b8.726d3734e271078e12f8a05cc73a2c1f@tix.at> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: AquaMail/1.13.2-730 (build: 101300200) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------1616ff3e2497d2327b8d33ac5f" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] BGP Flowspec(RFC 5575) Numeric Operator for inequality (!=) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 11:08:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------1616ff3e2497d2327b8d33ac5f Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Please refer to the rfc5575bis which is in the queue to be published soon and comes with a explicit list of the bitcombinations. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis/ Christoph On 7 February 2018 10:58:33 am Robert Raszuk wrote: > That's illegal combination as value can not be "less then" and "greater > then" a given value in the same time. > > In the spirit of being liberal in what you accept such [op,value] should be > ignored and error (sys)logged. > > Legal combinations are clearly listed in the text: lt=1 & eq=1, gt=1 & > eq=1, all zeros. > > Thx, > R. > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:51 AM, PVLR Pavana Murthy > wrote: > >> Hello, >> Thanks for quick response. If all lt=1, gt=1, eq=1, what should be done >> ? >> >> Thanks, >> Pavana. >> >> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote: >> >>> Yes. >>> >>> Thx, >>> R. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:32 AM, PVLR Pavana Murthy >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> As per the RFC 5575, >>>> >>>> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 >>>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ >>>> | e | a | len | 0 | lt |gt | eq | >>>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ >>>> >>>> eq - equality between data and value. >>>> The bits lt, gt, and eq can be combined to produce "less or >>>> equal", "greater or equal", and inequality values. >>>> >>>> For '<=' lt =1, gt =0, eq =1 >>>> For '>=' lt= 0, gt=1, eq =1 >>>> >>>> how to achieve inequality? Is it by making lt = 0, gt =0, eq =0 ? >>>> >>>> Please clarify. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Pavana. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Idr mailing list >>>> Idr@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > ---------- > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > ------------1616ff3e2497d2327b8d33ac5f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

Please refer to the rfc5575bi= s which is in the queue to be published soon and comes with a explicit list= of the bitcombinations.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc= /draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis/

Christoph

On 7 February 2018 10:58:33 am Robert Raszuk <robert@ra= szuk.net> wrote:


That's= illegal combination as value can not be "less then" and "gr= eater then" a given value in the same time.=C2=A0

In the spirit of being liberal in what you= accept such [op,value] should be ignored and error (sys)logged.=C2=A0

Legal combinations are cle= arly listed in the text: lt=3D1 & eq=3D1,=C2=A0=C2=A0gt=3D1 & eq=3D1, all zeros.

Thx,
R.
<= br>

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:51 AM, PVLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrp= m@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
=C2=A0 Thanks for quick response. If=C2=A0 all lt=3D1,= gt=3D1, eq=3D1, what should be done ?=C2=A0=C2=A0

Thanks,
Pavana.=C2=A0

On Wed, = Feb 7, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wr= ote:
Yes.

Thx,
R.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:32 AM, PVLR P= avana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0As per the RFC 5575,=C2=A0 =C2=A0
<= div>
=C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 =C2=A01=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02= =C2=A0 =C2=A03=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 =C2=A0 5=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6=C2=A0 =C2=A07
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| e=C2=A0 =C2=A0| = a |=C2=A0 =C2=A0len=C2=A0 =C2=A0| 0=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 lt |gt | eq |
+= ---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

e= q - equality between data and value.
The bits lt, gt, and eq can = be combined to produce "less or
equal", "greater o= r equal", and inequality values.

For &#= 39;<=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0 lt =3D1, gt =3D0, eq =3D1
For=C2=A0 = '>=3D'=C2=A0 =C2=A0lt=3D 0, gt=3D1, eq =3D1

=
how to achieve inequality? Is it by making lt =3D 0, gt =3D0, eq =3D0 = ?
=C2=A0=C2=A0
Please clarify.

Thanks,
Pavana.

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idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E67512D87E; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 07:43:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Kumari To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org, Susan Hares , aretana.ietf@gmail.com, idr-chairs@ietf.org, shares@ndzh.com, idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151801819024.4853.13609073710825844454.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 07:43:10 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] Warren Kumari's Discuss on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 15:43:10 -0000 Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I had the same logging question an Alexey and guessed (perhaps incorrectly) that this was to try and prevent DoSing the logging infrastructure by sending too many log messages. If this is the reason, I think that it should be better spelled out -- and if this is *not* the reason, I think that there needs to be a good explanation. Note that I will happy clear as soon as someone says "Yeah, we've heard and will deal with this" -- I think that this is a fine document and that addressing this issue should be a minor change, but important enough for operational reasons that it needs to be discussed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Major(ish) issue: Section 5. Advertising BGP Prefix-SID Attribute "The BGP Prefix-SID attribute MAY be attached to labeled BGP prefixes (IPv4/IPv6) [RFC8277] or to IPv6 unicast prefixes [RFC4760]. In order to prevent distribution of the BGP Prefix-SID attribute beyond its intended scope of applicability, attribute filtering SHOULD be deployed." Thank you for including this -- however, as I'm sure you know, the state of BGP filtering in the wild is, er, poor. Can you please provide some additional guidance? For example, could you include an appendix with examples? Or simply a bit more text on determining the scope of applicability? Apologies if I missed this, but should this by default be filtered on eBGP sessions? The included text is a great start, but some more (so people don't miss it and shoot themselves in the foot would be much appreciated. Nits: Section 1: " the SID consists of a label while when SR is applied to the IPv6 dataplane the SID consists of an IPv6 address." I think that "of a label, while" would make this much more readable. It took me a few tries without it. Section 4: " A BGP speaker receiving a BGP Prefix-SID attribute from an EBGP neighbor residing outside the boundaries of the SR domain, MUST discard the attribute unless it is configured to accept the attribute from the EBGP neighbor." Spurious comma between domain and MUST (yeah, I want a comma above, I don't want one here, no pleasing some people. 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2018 22:31:33 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP Authors : Stefano Previdi Clarence Filsfils Acee Lindem Arjun Sreekantiah Hannes Gredler Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2018-02-07 Abstract: Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) information. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Feb 7 14:33:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D075312025C; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 14:33:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Kumari To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org, Susan Hares , aretana.ietf@gmail.com, idr-chairs@ietf.org, shares@ndzh.com, idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151804282384.17032.3568656829294888691.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 14:33:43 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 22:33:44 -0000 Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for Acee for addressing my DISCUSS - cleared. Major(ish) issue: Section 5. Advertising BGP Prefix-SID Attribute "The BGP Prefix-SID attribute MAY be attached to labeled BGP prefixes (IPv4/IPv6) [RFC8277] or to IPv6 unicast prefixes [RFC4760]. In order to prevent distribution of the BGP Prefix-SID attribute beyond its intended scope of applicability, attribute filtering SHOULD be deployed." Thank you for including this -- however, as I'm sure you know, the state of BGP filtering in the wild is, er, poor. Can you please provide some additional guidance? For example, could you include an appendix with examples? Or simply a bit more text on determining the scope of applicability? Apologies if I missed this, but should this by default be filtered on eBGP sessions? The included text is a great start, but some more (so people don't miss it and shoot themselves in the foot would be much appreciated. Nits: Section 1: " the SID consists of a label while when SR is applied to the IPv6 dataplane the SID consists of an IPv6 address." I think that "of a label, while" would make this much more readable. It took me a few tries without it. Section 4: " A BGP speaker receiving a BGP Prefix-SID attribute from an EBGP neighbor residing outside the boundaries of the SR domain, MUST discard the attribute unless it is configured to accept the attribute from the EBGP neighbor." Spurious comma between domain and MUST (yeah, I want a comma above, I don't want one here, no pleasing some people. They are nits :-)) From nobody Wed Feb 7 14:37:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB85124B17 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 14:37:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kumari-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YSbTPMaqrVlB for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 14:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wr0-x236.google.com (mail-wr0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 724D7124F57 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 14:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wr0-x236.google.com with SMTP id w50so2774353wrc.2 for ; Wed, 07 Feb 2018 14:37:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kumari-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mZduy+VMF3HkAQSDzk3CGJxsroRIHXONHCWs9/UP6rE=; b=bVXY1hLxetAtvObqeu4+erM5rUbGlrqBdPlmZ5wxZHm5IkKlsD+ygERBdHExtyZG7v usLrgB9OR//j1+CcBZpDKBb4DpPL9VMyWhGGFLFLelC892duagma3wHLxANAmPxC1nag P4GI8U/YTrwv9OaMwIDyXfGWdI9lX8hccQuCfcgiOZJQmISmT1vd/lT/MBTMrnwPXsNT CbKWKLRd+xFhdX88sVvy9CKeaFOcDAbqjcGjqaPvBpBLHqPN4zKqx3ZL+TVNciMnMMd0 EC9y+mVkP3Sgy8sIgQOAhqPFulONxRhFtCgQjQJvIxBbnwe4gqEcrj1r9VOvsftwJjoS jOtw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mZduy+VMF3HkAQSDzk3CGJxsroRIHXONHCWs9/UP6rE=; b=fOTX/5F/7roRU1BSOXVwSUCZ/pe/cPP3e9id2lR/U/sbmdy/QEvoS2oL+pIJqclduL aKbeqgcDfYWaMByiiWyBJZcDB6DIc2KcP1QB5uuWWJ+8YU4jjZ7lYwbxroIXT7lrd2ML TOGCt8UswI5AyiaujxW4zZDmMai6hpHjBcjIzAPAktBy2cVqe13pS0w6ag6Fa2TfCTNR tYRtWlTLEghUun1CAHuMsw5RFE1r3rlInhdMr5cYS8syqbgcVt77iMfIKVO0Naz1Sksr azY0TkzDqRShQk62sQvqrhutxYvf9L19r9qDkLkIwaYQp1mRcr3eiaZwTT7A6349a2/7 crRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPBwbNCQ/lr4uYgbqtAQ4MYwzkpXf+e9UTjqVa2hLZicO8o6iEKm Cr3TDmq1ydg4hljVR/Ykhxg/8vRjHr6AedKvTUg5TA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x2267ydcpEto09+UP5vh/BEO3I5NDHhUCrcurxbaCakitClFwxK7RWemlKkulvifCa3bWQrtwQvfi9qg6LLr5a3k= X-Received: by 10.223.134.237 with SMTP id 42mr7570136wry.283.1518043042599; Wed, 07 Feb 2018 14:37:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.152.242 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 14:36:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <331379D5-EC87-417F-85B6-3980D66D3290@cisco.com> References: <151801819024.4853.13609073710825844454.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <331379D5-EC87-417F-85B6-3980D66D3290@cisco.com> From: Warren Kumari Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 17:36:42 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: The IESG , "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" , Susan Hares , "aretana.ietf@gmail.com" , "idr-chairs@ietf.org" , "idr@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] Warren Kumari's Discuss on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 22:37:28 -0000 On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 5:22 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Warren, > > =EF=BB=BFOn 2/7/18, 10:43 AM, "Warren Kumari" wrote: > > Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-13: Discuss > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut th= is > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.= html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > DISCUSS: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > I had the same logging question an Alexey and guessed (perhaps incorr= ectly) > that this was to try and prevent DoSing the logging infrastructure by= sending > too many log messages. If this is the reason, I think that it should = be better > spelled out -- and if this is *not* the reason, I think that there ne= eds to be > a good explanation. Note that I will happy clear as soon as someone s= ays "Yeah, > we've heard and will deal with this" -- I think that this is a fine d= ocument > and that addressing this issue should be a minor change, but importan= t enough > for operational reasons that it needs to be discussed. > > I've added this to the "Security Considerations". This is so common, ther= e probably should be boilerplate text for it. > > + To prevent a Denial-of-Service (DoS) or Distributed-Denial-of-Servic= e > + (DDoS) attack due to excessive BGP updates with an unacceptable BGP > + Prefix-SID attribute, message rate-limiting as well as suppression o= f > + duplicate messages SHOULD be deployed. > + > Thank you. I agree, this is a really common issue / point, some sort of bcp for designing logging in protocols that we could reference would be awesome. I've cleared my DISCUSS, thanks for addressing it so quickly. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > Major(ish) issue: > Section 5. Advertising BGP Prefix-SID Attribute > "The BGP Prefix-SID attribute MAY be attached to labeled BGP prefi= xes > (IPv4/IPv6) [RFC8277] or to IPv6 unicast prefixes [RFC4760]. In > order to prevent distribution of the BGP Prefix-SID attribute beyo= nd > its intended scope of applicability, attribute filtering SHOULD be > deployed." > Thank you for including this -- however, as I'm sure you know, the st= ate of BGP > filtering in the wild is, er, poor. Can you please provide some addit= ional > guidance? For example, could you include an appendix with examples? O= r simply a > bit more text on determining the scope of applicability? Apologies if= I missed > this, but should this by default be filtered on eBGP sessions? The in= cluded > text is a great start, but some more (so people don't miss it and sho= ot > themselves in the foot would be much appreciated. > > You realize that local BGP policy has been traditionally not been standar= dized and there have been books written on the subject. > Also, we have a whole WG, i.e., GROW to take on topics such as these. Yup, I think that you are making my point for me :-P - having additional guidance from the people building to protocol can't hurt. > I have made the statement more explicit. > > (IPv4/IPv6) [RFC8277] or to IPv6 unicast prefixes [RFC4760]. In > order to prevent distribution of the BGP Prefix-SID attribute beyond > its intended scope of applicability, attribute filtering SHOULD be > ! deployed to remove the BGP Prefix-SID attribute at the adminstrative > ! boundary of the segment routing domain. > > Thank you. I was hoping for even more (so that we can point at people and knock their heads together when they leak) but this was only a comment -- thanks for addressing it, I'm fine with your response. > Nits: > Section 1: > " the SID consists of a label while when SR is applied to the IPv6 da= taplane > the SID consists of an IPv6 address." I think that "of a label, while= " would > make this much more readable. It took me a few tries without it. > > Section 4: > " A BGP speaker receiving a BGP Prefix-SID attribute from an EBGP > neighbor residing outside the boundaries of the SR domain, MUST > discard the attribute unless it is configured to accept the attrib= ute > from the EBGP neighbor." > Spurious comma between domain and MUST (yeah, I want a comma above, I= don't > want one here, no pleasing some people. They are nits :-)) > > I agree with both and have made the changes. I was not the original edito= r of this document. Thanks, W > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > > --=20 I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf From nobody Wed Feb 7 14:55:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCCC124217; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 14:55:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ben Campbell To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org, Susan Hares , aretana.ietf@gmail.com, idr-chairs@ietf.org, shares@ndzh.com, idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151804412951.17204.11902308318477546085.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 14:55:29 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 22:55:29 -0000 Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (The document has been updated since I made my review notes. Apologies if any of my comments no longer apply.) Substantive: - 1: I agree with Alissa's comment about finding a less controversial example than DPI. -9: last paragraph: Can you offer a citation for the "standard BGP mechansism (filters)"? I assume they are in one of the documents cited in the first paragraph of this section, but it would help to cite the specific document and section. Editorial and nits: - Abstract and section 1: Both are missing an article (probably "The") before "Segment Routing (SR) architecture" From nobody Wed Feb 7 14:57:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A40C124F57; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 14:57:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Adam Roach To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org, Susan Hares , aretana.ietf@gmail.com, idr-chairs@ietf.org, shares@ndzh.com, idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151804426448.17032.266598901995786933.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 14:57:44 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 22:57:44 -0000 Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Please expand "AFI/SAFI" on first use. 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The -13 version references RFC 8277 rather than RFC 3107 which has an extensive "Security Considerations" section relative to MPLS label advertisement. Do you want me to add that there are no security considerations unique to [RFC8205]? I think that would be helpful. Mostly a nit=E2=80=A6. The text you added is this: When advertised using BGPsec as described in [RFC8205], the BGP Prefix-SID attribute doesn't impose any unique security considerations. =E2=80=A6which is correct. However, I think that, as long as we=E2=80=99re= mentioning BGPsec, we should point out that the reason it doesn=E2=80=99t change anyth= ing is because this new attribute is not protected by the BGPsec signatures (just as all other attributes, except the AS_PATH). Proposal; add something like this to the end of the text above: The BGP Prefix-SID attribute is not protected by the BGPsec signatures. Thanks! Alvaro. --001a113b047cbacc860564b41ed4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =
On February 6,= 2018 at 9:37:26 PM, Eric Rescorla (ekr@rtf= m.com) wrote:

Acee:

= Hi!

The -13 version references RFC 8277 rather than RFC 3107 which ha= s an extensive "Security Considerations" section relative to MPLS= label advertisement. Do you want me to add that there are no security cons= iderations unique to [RFC8205]?

I think that would be helpful.
=

Mostly a nit=E2=80=A6. =C2= =A0 The text you added is this:

=C2=A0 = =C2=A0When advertised using BGPsec as described in [RFC8205], the BGP

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Prefix-SID attribute doesn'= t impose any unique security

=C2=A0 =C2= =A0considerations.

=E2=80=A6which i= s correct.=C2=A0 However, I think that, as long as we=E2=80=99re mentioning= BGPsec, we should point out that the reason it doesn=E2=80=99t change anyt= hing is because this new attribute is not protected by the BGPsec signature= s (just as all other attributes, except the AS_PATH).=C2=A0 Proposal; add s= omething like this to the end of the text above:

=C2=A0 =C2= =A0The BGP Prefix-SID attribute is not protected by the BGPsec signatures.<= /font>

Thanks!

Alvaro.
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Today you don't put into FIB (maybe with the exception of encapsulation/tunnel attribute) any forwarding information into data plane from BGP attributes - hence whatever protection is offered say by BGPSec the NLRI which actually go into data plane are protected (in some way). Statement that BGPSec does not protect attributes is actually contrary to state that the network security does not get any weaker with this proposal. Of course for SR the right argument may be to state that this is to be used only under single administrative domain, but stating that this proposal does not change anything as attributes are not protected is just not correct. Best, R. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Alvaro Retana wrote: > On February 6, 2018 at 9:37:26 PM, Eric Rescorla (ekr@rtfm.com) wrote: > > Acee: > > Hi! > > The -13 version references RFC 8277 rather than RFC 3107 which has an > extensive "Security Considerations" section relative to MPLS label > advertisement. Do you want me to add that there are no security > considerations unique to [RFC8205]? > > > I think that would be helpful. > > Mostly a nit=E2=80=A6. The text you added is this: > > When advertised using BGPsec as described in [RFC8205], the BGP > > Prefix-SID attribute doesn't impose any unique security > > considerations. > =E2=80=A6which is correct. However, I think that, as long as we=E2=80=99= re mentioning > BGPsec, we should point out that the reason it doesn=E2=80=99t change any= thing is > because this new attribute is not protected by the BGPsec signatures (jus= t > as all other attributes, except the AS_PATH). Proposal; add something li= ke > this to the end of the text above: > > The BGP Prefix-SID attribute is not protected by the BGPsec signatures= . > > Thanks! > > Alvaro. > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > --001a114184d46978fc0564b43ee7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alvaro,

When thinking about security let's think about en= tire network view.

Tod= ay you don't put into FIB (maybe with the exception of encapsulation/tu= nnel attribute) any forwarding information into data plane from BGP attribu= tes - hence whatever protection is offered say by BGPSec the NLRI which act= ually go into data plane are protected (in some way).=C2=A0

Statement that BGPSec does not protec= t attributes is actually contrary to state that the network security does n= ot get any weaker with this proposal.=C2=A0

Of course for SR the right argument may be to state t= hat this is to be used only under single administrative domain, but stating= that this proposal does not change anything as attributes are not protecte= d is just not correct.=C2=A0

Best,
R.



On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Alvaro Retana <ar= etana.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
On February 6, 2018 at 9:37:26 PM, Eric Rescorla (ekr@rtfm.com) wrote:

Acee:

Hi!
=

The -13 version re= ferences RFC 8277 rather than RFC 3107 which has an extensive "Securit= y Considerations" section relative to MPLS label advertisement. Do you= want me to add that there are no security considerations unique to [RFC820= 5]?

I think t= hat would be helpful.
Mostly a nit=E2=80=A6. =C2=A0 The text you added = is this:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0When advertised u= sing BGPsec as described in [RFC8205], the BGP

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Prefix-SID attribute doesn't impose any unique sec= urity

=C2=A0 =C2=A0considerations.

=E2=80=A6which is correct.=C2=A0 Howeve= r, I think that, as long as we=E2=80=99re mentioning BGPsec, we should poin= t out that the reason it doesn=E2=80=99t change anything is because this ne= w attribute is not protected by the BGPsec signatures (just as all other at= tributes, except the AS_PATH).=C2=A0 Proposal; add something like this to t= he end of the text above:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0The BGP Prefix-SID att= ribute is not protected by the BGPsec signatures.

Thanks!
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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert: I think I got lost=E2=80=A6what are you trying to get to? Are you saying that we shouldn=E2=80=99t add the extra sentence? Do you th= ink something else needs to be said here? Are you proposing new security-related work? Thanks! Alvaro. On February 8, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM, Robert Raszuk (robert@raszuk.net) wrote: Alvaro, When thinking about security let's think about entire network view. Today you don't put into FIB (maybe with the exception of encapsulation/tunnel attribute) any forwarding information into data plane from BGP attributes - hence whatever protection is offered say by BGPSec the NLRI which actually go into data plane are protected (in some way). Statement that BGPSec does not protect attributes is actually contrary to state that the network security does not get any weaker with this proposal. Of course for SR the right argument may be to state that this is to be used only under single administrative domain, but stating that this proposal does not change anything as attributes are not protected is just not correct. Best, R. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Alvaro Retana wrote: > On February 6, 2018 at 9:37:26 PM, Eric Rescorla (ekr@rtfm.com) wrote: > > Acee: > > Hi! > > The -13 version references RFC 8277 rather than RFC 3107 which has an > extensive "Security Considerations" section relative to MPLS label > advertisement. Do you want me to add that there are no security > considerations unique to [RFC8205]? > > > I think that would be helpful. > > Mostly a nit=E2=80=A6. The text you added is this: > > When advertised using BGPsec as described in [RFC8205], the BGP > > Prefix-SID attribute doesn't impose any unique security > > considerations. > =E2=80=A6which is correct. However, I think that, as long as we=E2=80=99= re mentioning > BGPsec, we should point out that the reason it doesn=E2=80=99t change any= thing is > because this new attribute is not protected by the BGPsec signatures (jus= t > as all other attributes, except the AS_PATH). Proposal; add something li= ke > this to the end of the text above: > > The BGP Prefix-SID attribute is not protected by the BGPsec signatures= . > > Thanks! > > Alvaro. > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > --001a1141c39e51d08b0564b6e192 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =
Robert:

I think I got lost=E2=80=A6what are you trying to get to?

Are you saying that we = shouldn=E2=80=99t add the extra sentence?=C2=A0 Do you think something else= needs to be said here?=C2=A0 Are you proposing new security-related work?<= /div>

Thanks!

Alvaro.

On February 8, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM, Robert Raszuk (robert@raszuk.net) wrote:

Alvaro,

When thinking about security let's think about entire network view.

Today you don't put into FIB (maybe with the exception of encapsulation/tunnel attribute) any forwarding information into data plane from BGP attributes - hence whatever protection is offered say by BGPSec the NLRI which actually go into data plane are protected (in some way).=C2=A0

Statement that BGPSec does not protect attributes is actually contrary to state that the network security does not get any weaker with this proposal.=C2=A0

Of course for SR the right argument may be to state that this is to be used only under single administrative domain, but stating that this proposal does not change anything as attributes are not protected is just not correct.=C2=A0

Best,
R.



On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
On February 6, 2018 at 9:37:26 PM, Eric Rescorla (ekr@rtfm.com) wrote:

Acee:

Hi!
The -13 version references RFC 8277 rather than RFC 3107 which has an extensive "Security Considerations" section relative to MPLS label advertisement. Do you want me to add that there are no security considerations unique to [RFC8205]?

I think that would be helpful.

Mostly a nit=E2=80=A6. =C2=A0 The text you adde= d is this:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0When advertised using BGPsec as described in [RFC8205], the BGP

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Prefix-SID attribute doesn't impose any unique security

=C2=A0 =C2=A0considerations.

=E2=80=A6which is correct.=C2=A0 However, I think that, as long as we=E2=80=99re mentioning BGPsec, we should point out that the reason it doesn=E2=80=99t change anything is because this new attribute is not protected by the BGPsec signatures (just as all other attributes, except the AS_PATH).=C2=A0 Proposal; add something like this to the end of the text above:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0The BGP Prefix-SID attribute is not protected by the BGPsec signatures.

Thanks!

Alvaro.


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Thu Feb 8 09:46:22 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4583612D7F4; Thu, 8 Feb 2018 09:46:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.889 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.889 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zcaybDK7xmwk; Thu, 8 Feb 2018 09:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B06E312DA18; Thu, 8 Feb 2018 09:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.105] (cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w18HkB2b050906 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Feb 2018 11:46:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22] claimed to be [10.0.1.105] From: Ben Campbell Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_320BDD7C-FF16-4102-9EEF-B4A9E0D0E085"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 11:46:10 -0600 In-Reply-To: Cc: The IESG , "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" , Susan Hares , "aretana.ietf@gmail.com" , "idr-chairs@ietf.org" , "idr@ietf.org" To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" References: <151804412951.17204.11902308318477546085.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 17:46:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_320BDD7C-FF16-4102-9EEF-B4A9E0D0E085 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Feb 8, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) = wrote: >=20 > Hi Ben, >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 2/7/18, 5:55 PM, "Ben Campbell" wrote: >=20 > Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14: No Objection >=20 > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to = all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut = this > introductory paragraph, however.) >=20 >=20 > Please refer to = https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >=20 >=20 > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > (The document has been updated since I made my review notes. = Apologies if any > of my comments no longer apply.) >=20 > Substantive: >=20 > - 1: I agree with Alissa's comment about finding a less = controversial example > than DPI. >=20 > It seems most service functions are controversial to at least = somebody. I've changed it to "give the packet prioritized queuing=E2=80=9D= . That WFM. (If that=E2=80=99s controversial to someone else, I will leave = it to them to complain :-) ) >=20 >=20 > -9: last paragraph: Can you offer a citation for the "standard BGP = mechansism > (filters)"? I assume they are in one of the documents cited in the = first > paragraph of this section, but it would help to cite the specific = document and > section. >=20 > These mechanisms are not standardized. I've changed "standard" to = "common=E2=80=9D. That could use a sentence or two to elaborate. The fact that these = common mechanisms are not standardized seems worthy of more than a = passing mention. [=E2=80=A6] Thanks! Ben. --Apple-Mail=_320BDD7C-FF16-4102-9EEF-B4A9E0D0E085 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEExW9rpd7ez4DexOFOgFZKbJXz1A0FAlp8jOIACgkQgFZKbJXz 1A3arxAAvI/tHE/ZnZMUKSc60RNchVufEJnsrb6l/RYRL6HffSe3mnYK9IvK+2W5 wuxveXYnVj0orbllfNolBarJXAfeFOPWz++D7dOulpJusus1P6Nm8ZxwfUPygdGp pBpSxby7C+ZA8YjluPQCCs2kitHmoP7QNnZmeyknsoiOu4LWY/7fiG9rGzCZWBRY XuxzetCUn9ZX3igRSwDPBZ83CmlBvCpYGSw6IQCArZbXLDSZZSYcxfvReRWW10W8 +kXnREyCdvZZDMPEcUuNiGiZ1AI7YzTg9xGOm7jhTbH1yuGvr/NotGyiFw8RpVRG VmT1OenFIw5mF9N7xx02aF6tESZ6f25agnF5ntQh6nq/XCoQgZ38aJhMzd570i17 mlCOAK9Z7rUYOFprotLdavuBflhDa2I4ie57TptEWdkhWGvd711H7EPZuZI4ktje DYdC/FfruEETpQBre2lni3vKC/peuxy0BW6NtZfte42Z/r/czKH1XBscZL5+15/S 72bdaGFLWyOYuxZMNZZ19Gj+tkrGNpSLkjNofQuvn1Ix4zmaYk+GqeQ3oqGDdRPl TuV889h369P43mcyTXim6ySA45x/gjeuDchaGotHppRwEH6zmogCb6r7xghH8XPv Nxn76XFDF1PW7xVD0evkPYjKyTCvmAtZz3rrDwxb/29xVSHk5wA= =oi42 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_320BDD7C-FF16-4102-9EEF-B4A9E0D0E085-- From nobody Sun Feb 11 07:45:29 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96584126DD9; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 07:45:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jLT5w2AsyLhA; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 07:45:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7487126CE8; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 07:45:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4425D1E28E; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:50:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:50:57 -0500 From: Jeffrey Haas To: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" , opsawg@ietf.org Cc: "idr@ietf.org" , "idr-chairs@ietf.org" Message-ID: <20180211155057.GE4073@pfrc.org> References: <76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C9279828897C@NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C9279828897C@NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] FW: WG LC for draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 15:45:27 -0000 Authors, Thanks for accommodating my prior comments on this draft. I have one final issue to raise with the draft. The information elements for extended community and large community by nature of their size are of type octetArray. The draft correctly notes the expected size of each of these elements; 8 and 12 respectively. The draft provides no guidance for when each of these elements is NOT of the expected size. My recommendation is a small paragraph to the Operational Considerations section: "In the event that the bgpExtendedCommunity or bgpLargeCommunity Elements are not of their expected sizes (8 and 12 octets, respectively), the receiver SHOULD ignore them." I'm not savvy with the general language wrapped around receiver procedure for IPFIX these days, so a bit of additional verbiage might be expected for appropriate draft boilerplate. However, this is intended to protect implementations using BGP logic from calling their parsing routines with invalid lengths. -- Jeff On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 08:26:52AM +0000, Dongjie (Jimmy) wrote: > Hi, > > Currently this BGP related draft is in WG LC in OPSAWG, their chairs suggest IDR to take a look at it, please send comments (if any) to OPSAWG mailing list. > > Best regards, > Jie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tianran Zhou > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 11:31 AM > To: 'idr-chairs@ietf.org' > Cc: 'opsawg-chairs@ietf.org' > Subject: FW: WG LC for draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community > > Dear IDR Chairs, > > The OPSAWG started a 2 week WG LC for the following draft: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-04 > > We got many comments and suggestions from IDR when this work is adopted. Now the authors believe the document is ready. > We really appreciate more comments from this working group. > > Could you please help to forward this information to the IDR mailing list? > > Thanks, > Tianran, as OPSAWG co-chair > > > -----Original Message----- > From: OPSAWG [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tianran Zhou > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 11:07 AM > To: opsawg@ietf.org > Cc: opsawg-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: [OPSAWG] WG LC for draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community > > Hi WG, > > The authors of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community have posted the latest drafts to the mailing list, and believe that the document is ready for LC. > > This starts a 2 week WG LC on > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-04 > > Please read the above draft and send any issues, comments, or corrections to this mailing list. > All supports and concerns are welcome and helpful for the authors. > > We are also looking for a document shepherd, best with operator background, to help the following procedures. > > The WG LC will close on Feb 1, 2018. > Authors please indicate whether you are aware of any IPR for the draft. > > Thanks, > Tianran, as OPSAWG co-chair > > _______________________________________________ > OPSAWG mailing list > OPSAWG@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr From nobody Sun Feb 11 17:28:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007CE12025C; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:28:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151839890498.8038.16017681434993436720@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:28:24 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ipv6-rt-constrain-11.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 01:28:25 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. Title : IPv6 Extensions for Route Target Distribution Authors : Keyur Patel Robert Raszuk Martin Djernaes Jie Dong Mach(Guoyi) Chen Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ipv6-rt-constrain-11.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2018-02-11 Abstract: The current route target distribution specification as described in [RFC 4684] defines Route Target NLRIs of maximum length of 12 bytes. The IPv6 specific Route Target extended community is defined in [RFC 5701] as length of 20 bytes. Since the current specification only supports prefixes of maximum length of 12 bytes, the lack of an IPv6 specific Route Target reachability information may be a problem when an operator wants to use this application in a pure IPv6 environment. This document defines an extension that allows BGP to exchange longer length IPv6 Route Target prefixes. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Feb 12 01:14:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B1C1270A0; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 01:14:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151842689814.8229.16733720167687834327@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 01:14:58 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-next-hop-capability-02.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:14:58 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. Title : BGP Next-Hop dependent capabilities Authors : Bruno Decraene Kireeti Kompella Wim Henderickx Filename : draft-ietf-idr-next-hop-capability-02.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2018-02-12 Abstract: RFC 5492 advertises the capabilities of the BGP peer. When the BGP peer is not the same as the BGP Next-Hop, it is useful to also be able to advertise the capability of the BGP Next-Hop, in particular to advertise forwarding plane features. This document defines a mechanism to advertise such BGP Next Hop dependent Capabilities. This document defines a new BGP non-transitive attribute to carry Next-Hop Capabilities. This attribute is guaranteed to be deleted or updated when the BGP Next Hop is changed, in order to reflect the capabilities of the new BGP Next-Hop. This document also defines a Next-Hop capability to advertise the ability to process the MPLS Entropy Label as an egress LSR for all NLRI advertised in the BGP UPDATE. It updates RFC 6790 with regard to this BGP signaling. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-next-hop-capability/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-next-hop-capability-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-next-hop-capability-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-next-hop-capability-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Feb 12 01:17:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49107120713 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 01:17:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.63 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T-p1sNuAvQy4 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 01:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from orange.com (mta136.mail.business.static.orange.com [80.12.70.36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D90A8120047 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 01:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from opfednr02.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.66]) by opfednr22.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 25FCA20D67 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 10:17:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme2.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.31.75]) by opfednr02.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id E7CE1120066 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 10:16:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::e92a:c932:907e:8f06]) by OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::65de:2f08:41e6:ebbe%18]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 10:16:59 +0100 From: To: "idr@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-next-hop-capability-02.txt Thread-Index: AQHTo+H6cw1Q2xmPnEiraF7KijmVG6OgfGKg Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:16:59 +0000 Message-ID: <28911_1518427020_5A815B8C_28911_368_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A47994F6A@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <151842689814.8229.16733720167687834327@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <151842689814.8229.16733720167687834327@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-next-hop-capability-02.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:17:08 -0000 Just a refresh. 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From nobody Mon Feb 12 03:03:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A4F1275C5 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:03:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HvoSyncTO7xB for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19FAE124D37 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id g1so8816965wmg.2 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:03:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=f3M9wiNba5fbe1M4kDBwrvR4yvmfRVmdU2pLlXUDuzg=; b=Usedima1LvcGI9RDOTkMx0Q0NLD5Zl0vuPDbIn2iYCPCLfnsC1LOb4Uoz3B6qJGcFw NADH9my+FLfajr7k41VXOpjq4QPGAJB3zp+Wjtt8cJtuZAu+muVpVnsgEJGR+E1DNrAW cu3XnlnLJxOEltl/2O9GcLMM58oNF26TiNojy6+s3vT4jvjTj6sPDEgHfIu8UDvruA8N SXr0TMaQITshBwYQ3lPB0vnMPInDx8Bp/KjCRu5vhJ85uB5Yws3RNDYECqPX06zjPZoa QSu4+VZRiFYtSZiZcH/R/1dUaSfZOm/RSIi0mz83RSYHgzdyzKQFtrVinrFeqkcLfQql +LnA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=f3M9wiNba5fbe1M4kDBwrvR4yvmfRVmdU2pLlXUDuzg=; b=BhurQtsd2+9Vfs7z6hVAgZxKzCR7HGxN88a6viAhJbBS8cylGMUFg9jrYaY5gghBeu +vQY7zUChRqSzHn8oOJhinVP+wtXfAB6TZ0zzf90uZtjHGITxPBJe6OHa4vmrCdJUfbb Sku4veQcPxuZ7BO9QRJ01jhC9FIySgy0DgOMdR2Wfvn0RtTcvDCkv9rsr4PzPMaVs+NO dkZCZ3haA1AscBxpUvqT5YktpBkiHY+OfsmAlEvqDYhxEODYJcKtmeVMMGkh2wMpXUg5 dTAeOX7/uVNmar8Mg7MVOzUqx88eIALB0R8fwSf15XNReJj46uqjZfwd3SVhpYnbUqTs hfmQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPApYnJ1yVLFE9h5JfCLaRB2YZgK0PkWubKduKDO8lyEfLj5XlEY bTN69rM3CdSUXRMyfz7RDj/7DGXF7YRexTuFp4wqXQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224HzieCunZSX6EEQh+va7PBmjBtPYO7D9momJL2pYDvt2r+JZSKU3HL0lwhqnBa0YPcFGKlYDWPLKda2wpQb2o= X-Received: by 10.28.181.72 with SMTP id e69mr2938208wmf.7.1518433409430; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:03:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.195.200 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:03:29 -0800 (PST) From: PVLR Pavana Murthy Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:33:29 +0530 Message-ID: To: idr wg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1148dec0fbfb51056501d3b3" Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] BGP Flowspec rules precedence order (RFC 5575) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:03:33 -0000 --001a1148dec0fbfb51056501d3b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, In the RFC 5575, the following is given for the comparing the Flowspec components of types other then prefix. } else { common = MIN(component_length(comp1), component_length(comp2)); cmp = memcmp(data(comp1), data(comp2), common); // not equal, lowest value has precedence // equal, longest string has precedence } Here, what does *data* refrer to ? Is it the binary form of 1) [op, value]> / [op, bitmask] or 2) Just [value] / [bitmask] eg: 1) 01 *18 58 58 58* 04 *01 46 81 50 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 Port: 70 | 80* 2) 01* 18 58 58 58 *04* 03 5a c5 6e ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 Port: >=90 & <= 110* *In the above FS rules, Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to compare the data of next type 4 (Port). * *So do we need to do memcmp of (01 46 81 50) and (03 5a c5 6e) ?* Thanks, Pavana*.* --001a1148dec0fbfb51056501d3b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
=C2=A0 In the RFC 5575, the following is given = for the comparing the Flowspec components of types other then prefix.
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} else {
common =3D
MIN(component_length(comp1), component_length(comp2));<= /font>
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// not equal, lowest value has precedence
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Here, what does data ref= rer to=C2=A0 ?

Is it the binary form of 1) [op, va= lue]> / [op, bitmask]=C2=A0 or 2) Just [value] / [bitmask]
eg:


1)=C2=A0 01 = 18 58 58 58 04 01 46 81 50=C2=A0 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24=C2=A0 Port: 70 | 80
= =C2=A0
2)=C2=A0 01 18 58 58 58 04 03 5a c5 6e=C2=A0= =C2=A0 ---->=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24=C2=A0 Port:=C2=A0>=3D90 = & <=3D 110

In the above F= S rules,=C2=A0 Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to compare the data = of next type 4 (Port).=C2=A0
So do we need to do memcmp of= =C2=A0=C2=A0(01 46 = 81 50) and=C2=A0=C2=A0(03 5a c5 6e) ?

Thanks,
Pavana.
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--001a1148dec0fbfb51056501d3b3-- From nobody Mon Feb 12 10:39:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CCA12D87F; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 10:39:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151846077759.6026.7172143097211574301@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 10:39:37 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-15.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 18:39:38 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP Authors : Stefano Previdi Clarence Filsfils Acee Lindem Arjun Sreekantiah Hannes Gredler Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-15.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2018-02-12 Abstract: The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) information. 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Tue, 13 Feb 2018 06:48:57 +0000 Received: from NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com ([fe80::a54a:89d2:c471:ff]) by nkgeml414-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.75]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 14:48:54 +0800 From: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" To: Jeffrey Haas , "opsawg@ietf.org" CC: "idr@ietf.org" , "idr-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Idr] FW: WG LC for draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community Thread-Index: AdOQCV9j2OxCryuCStaCuXJblDRHdAAAC+hAANPOQ/AAABj/MAPs+DaAAGFBmMA= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 06:48:53 +0000 Message-ID: <76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927982DBE7E@NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C9279828897C@NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com> <20180211155057.GE4073@pfrc.org> In-Reply-To: <20180211155057.GE4073@pfrc.org> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.130.151.75] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] FW: WG LC for draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 06:49:08 -0000 Hi Jeff,=20 Thanks a lot for your comments and recommendation, which will be reflected = in next revision of this document.=20 Best regards, Jie > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Haas [mailto:jhaas@pfrc.org] > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 11:51 PM > To: Dongjie (Jimmy) ; opsawg@ietf.org > Cc: idr@ietf.org; idr-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Idr] FW: WG LC for draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community >=20 > Authors, >=20 > Thanks for accommodating my prior comments on this draft. >=20 > I have one final issue to raise with the draft. The information elements= for > extended community and large community by nature of their size are of typ= e > octetArray. The draft correctly notes the expected size of each of these > elements; 8 and 12 respectively. >=20 > The draft provides no guidance for when each of these elements is NOT of = the > expected size. >=20 > My recommendation is a small paragraph to the Operational Considerations > section: > "In the event that the bgpExtendedCommunity or bgpLargeCommunity > Elements are not of their expected sizes (8 and 12 octets, respectively),= the > receiver SHOULD ignore them." >=20 > I'm not savvy with the general language wrapped around receiver procedure > for IPFIX these days, so a bit of additional verbiage might be expected f= or > appropriate draft boilerplate. However, this is intended to protect > implementations using BGP logic from calling their parsing routines with = invalid > lengths. >=20 > -- Jeff >=20 > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 08:26:52AM +0000, Dongjie (Jimmy) wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Currently this BGP related draft is in WG LC in OPSAWG, their chairs su= ggest > IDR to take a look at it, please send comments (if any) to OPSAWG mailing= list. > > > > Best regards, > > Jie > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tianran Zhou > > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 11:31 AM > > To: 'idr-chairs@ietf.org' > > Cc: 'opsawg-chairs@ietf.org' > > Subject: FW: WG LC for draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community > > > > Dear IDR Chairs, > > > > The OPSAWG started a 2 week WG LC for the following draft: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-04 > > > > We got many comments and suggestions from IDR when this work is adopted= . > Now the authors believe the document is ready. > > We really appreciate more comments from this working group. > > > > Could you please help to forward this information to the IDR mailing li= st? > > > > Thanks, > > Tianran, as OPSAWG co-chair > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: OPSAWG [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tianran > > Zhou > > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 11:07 AM > > To: opsawg@ietf.org > > Cc: opsawg-chairs@ietf.org > > Subject: [OPSAWG] WG LC for draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community > > > > Hi WG, > > > > The authors of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community have posted the la= test > drafts to the mailing list, and believe that the document is ready for LC= . > > > > This starts a 2 week WG LC on > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-04 > > > > Please read the above draft and send any issues, comments, or correctio= ns to > this mailing list. > > All supports and concerns are welcome and helpful for the authors. > > > > We are also looking for a document shepherd, best with operator backgro= und, > to help the following procedures. > > > > The WG LC will close on Feb 1, 2018. > > Authors please indicate whether you are aware of any IPR for the draft. > > > > Thanks, > > Tianran, as OPSAWG co-chair > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OPSAWG mailing list > > OPSAWG@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Idr mailing list > > Idr@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr From nobody Tue Feb 13 18:40:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1922129511; 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boundary="_000_1d73e50ba66841de9c07e47a531a3745XCHALN001ciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] Early Code Point allocation for draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05 (12/8 to 12/22) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 02:40:06 -0000 --_000_1d73e50ba66841de9c07e47a531a3745XCHALN001ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sue - Has early allocation been completed? I don't see any code point assigned in the BGP-LS registry (apologies if I = missed it). Thanx. Les From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 7:45 PM To: idr@ietf.org Cc: idr-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Idr] Early Code Point allocation for draft-ietf-idr-eag-distr= ibution-05 (12/8 to 12/22) WG: We've received 7 positive comments for early allocation of the draft-ietf-i= dr-eag-distribution-05.txt work. There were no problems pointed to with th= e draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05.txt specification. The WG chairs usu= ally like a few more positive comments, but the December time period (12/8 = to 12/22) may have reduced the number of comments. We received no substant= ial number of comments after the first week. Cisco has completed an implementation and is looking for an interoperabilit= y test prior to shipping code. The work has implementations that need the e= arly allocation, a stable specification, and these positive comments on the= list. I've received several comments requesting the processing of this ca= ll. Based on the WG continued request to get implementations early allocat= ion of code points, I'm going to declare WG consensus on allocating these c= ode points. I will forward this early allocation request to Alvaro Retana = for processing. I think this points to the fact that we should go to single week early allo= cation request. The drafts either succeed or fail on the first week's wor= k. Sue Hares WG Co-chair PS - I think this points to the fact that we should go to single week early= allocation request. The drafts either succeed or fail on the first week'= s work. John and I are always looking for feedback to determine if we are= following the wishes of the IDR WG in getting this early allocations. --_000_1d73e50ba66841de9c07e47a531a3745XCHALN001ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sue –=

 

Has early allocation b= een completed?

I don’t see any = code point assigned in the BGP-LS registry (apologies if I missed it).=

 

Thanx.

 

    Les=

 

 

From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 7:45 PM
To: idr@ietf.org
Cc: idr-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Idr] Early Code Point allocation for draft-ietf-idr-ea= g-distribution-05 (12/8 to 12/22)

 

WG:

 

We’ve received 7 positive comments for early a= llocation of the draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05.txt work.  There w= ere no problems pointed to with the draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05.txt = specification.   The WG chairs usually like a few more positive comments, but the December time period (12/8 to 12/22) m= ay have reduced the number of comments.  We received no substantial nu= mber of comments after the first week.

 

Cisco has completed an implementation and is looking= for an interoperability test prior to shipping code. The work has implemen= tations that need the early allocation, a stable specification, and these p= ositive comments on the list.  I’ve received several comments requesting the processing of this call.  Ba= sed on the WG continued request to get implementations early allocation of = code points, I’m going to declare WG consensus on allocating these co= de points.  I will forward this early allocation request to Alvaro Retana for processing.

 

I think this points to the fact that we should go to= single week early allocation request.   The drafts either succee= d or fail on the first week’s work.

 

 

Sue Hares

WG Co-chair

 

PS - I think this points to the fact that we should = go to single week early allocation request.   The drafts either s= ucceed or fail on the first week’s work.   John and I are a= lways looking for feedback to determine if we are following the wishes of the IDR WG in getting this early allocations.   &n= bsp;

 

 

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Les > -----Original Message----- > From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 6:52 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: idr@ietf.org > Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-te-pm-bgp-09.txt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. >=20 > Title : BGP-LS Advertisement of IGP Traffic Engineering= Performance > Metric Extensions > Authors : Les Ginsberg > Stefano Previdi > Qin Wu > Hannes Gredler > Saikat Ray > Jeff Tantsura > Clarence Filsfils > Filename : draft-ietf-idr-te-pm-bgp-09.txt > Pages : 9 > Date : 2018-02-13 >=20 > Abstract: > This document defines new BGP-LS TLVs in order to carry the IGP > Traffic Engineering Extensions defined in IS-IS and OSPF protocols. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-te-pm-bgp/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-te-pm-bgp-09 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-te-pm-bgp-09 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-te-pm-bgp-09 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr From nobody Tue Feb 13 19:31:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D809120726; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 19:31:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151857909542.24779.7903076570646253538@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 19:31:35 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 03:31:35 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP Authors : Stefano Previdi Clarence Filsfils Acee Lindem Arjun Sreekantiah Hannes Gredler Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2018-02-13 Abstract: The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) information. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Feb 14 13:41:11 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5546E126C0F for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:41:09 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Non-encoded 8-bit data (char E2 hex): X-Spam-Report: ...tual code (thanks\n\tto Job\342\200\231s comment) th[...] X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dUHsRmaMhr6o for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:41:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hated.at (mail.hated.at [IPv6:2001:858:2:8::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56A0A126B72 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:41:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from 80-110-127-16.cgn.dynamic.surfer.at ([80.110.127.16] helo=[192.168.66.220]) by mail.hated.at with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1em4Ux-00034t-LC; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 22:21:52 +0100 From: Christoph Loibl Message-Id: <372B554B-47F1-49AC-8D66-37A7ED69E57F@tix.at> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_671D4A96-1B66-4DF6-A92A-EBF83F3AF0CB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 22:41:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: idr wg To: PVLR Pavana Murthy References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] BGP Flowspec rules precedence order (RFC 5575) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 21:41:09 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_671D4A96-1B66-4DF6-A92A-EBF83F3AF0CB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F3EA6348-EEEF-4EF1-A91C-B5D947CC6119" --Apple-Mail=_F3EA6348-EEEF-4EF1-A91C-B5D947CC6119 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Pavana, Did you have a look into the actual code (thanks to Job=E2=80=99s = comment) that is contained in the RFC5575bis draft which should be = identical from the behaviour: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-06 = Christoph -- Christoph Loibl c@tix.at | CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID: 0x4B2C0055 | http://www.nextlayer.at > On 12.02.2018, at 12:03, PVLR Pavana Murthy wrote: >=20 > Hello, > In the RFC 5575, the following is given for the comparing the = Flowspec components of types other then prefix. >=20 > } else { > common =3D > MIN(component_length(comp1), component_length(comp2)); > cmp =3D memcmp(data(comp1), data(comp2), common); > // not equal, lowest value has precedence > // equal, longest string has precedence > } >=20 >=20 > Here, what does data refrer to ? >=20 > Is it the binary form of 1) [op, value]> / [op, bitmask] or 2) Just = [value] / [bitmask] >=20 > eg: >=20 >=20 > 1) 01 18 58 58 58 04 01 46 81 50 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 = Port: 70 | 80 >=20 > 2) 01 18 58 58 58 04 03 5a c5 6e ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 = Port: >=3D90 & <=3D 110 >=20 > In the above FS rules, Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to = compare the data of next type 4 (Port). > So do we need to do memcmp of (01 46 81 50) and (03 5a c5 6e) ? >=20 > Thanks, > Pavana. >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr --Apple-Mail=_F3EA6348-EEEF-4EF1-A91C-B5D947CC6119 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi = Pavana,

Did you have = a look into the actual code (thanks to Job=E2=80=99s comment) that is = contained in the RFC5575bis draft which should be identical from the = behaviour:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-06

Christoph

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On 12.02.2018, at 12:03, PVLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> = wrote:

Hello,
  In the RFC 5575, the = following is given for the comparing the Flowspec components of types = other then prefix.

} else {
common = =3D
MIN(component_length(comp1), = component_length(comp2));
cmp =3D memcmp(data(comp1), data(comp2), = common);
// not equal, lowest value has = precedence
// equal, longest string has = precedence
} 


Here, what does data refrer to  = ?

Is it the = binary form of 1) [op, value]> / [op, bitmask]  or 2) Just = [value] / [bitmask]

eg:


1)  01 18 58 58 58 04 01 = 46 81 50  ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24  Port: 70 | 80
 
2)  01 18 58 58 58 04 03 5a c5 6e    = ---->   Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24  Port: >=3D90 & <=3D = 110

In the above FS = rules,  Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to compare the data = of next type 4 (Port). 
So = do we need to do memcmp of  (01 = 46 81 50) and  (03 = 5a c5 6e) ?

Thanks,
Pavana.



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Is it the binary sting of [op, value]/[op,bitmask] or only value/bitmask ?* Thanks, Pavana. On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Christoph Loibl wrote: > Hi Pavana, > > Did you have a look into the actual code (thanks to Job=E2=80=99s comment= ) that is > contained in the RFC5575bis draft which should be identical from the > behaviour: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-06 > > Christoph > > -- > Christoph Loibl > c@tix.at | CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID: 0x4B2C0055 | http://www.nextlayer.at > > > > On 12.02.2018, at 12:03, PVLR Pavana Murthy wrote: > > Hello, > In the RFC 5575, the following is given for the comparing the Flowspec > components of types other then prefix. > > } else { > common =3D > MIN(component_length(comp1), component_length(comp2)); > cmp =3D memcmp(data(comp1), data(comp2), common); > // not equal, lowest value has precedence > // equal, longest string has precedence > } > > > Here, what does *data* refrer to ? > > Is it the binary form of 1) [op, value]> / [op, bitmask] or 2) Just > [value] / [bitmask] > > eg: > > > 1) 01 *18 58 58 58* 04 *01 46 81 50 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 > Port: 70 | 80* > > 2) 01* 18 58 58 58 *04* 03 5a c5 6e ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 > Port: >=3D90 & <=3D 110* > > *In the above FS rules, Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to > compare the data of next type 4 (Port). * > *So do we need to do memcmp of (01 46 81 50) and (03 5a c5 6e) ?* > > Thanks, > Pavana*.* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > > --001a1148dec07636190565386032 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Christoph,
=C2=A0 Even in the=C2=A0 RFC5575bis,=C2=A0=C2=A0the following is g= iven=C2=A0=C2=A0for comparing non-prefix type components.=C2=A0
<= br> 
 else:
               # assuming comp_a.value, comp_b.value of type bytearray
               if len(comp_a.value) =3D=3D len(comp_b.value):
                   if comp_a.value > comp_b.value:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   if comp_a.value < comp_b.value:
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   # components equal -> continue with next component
               else:
                   common =3D min(len(comp_a.value), len(comp_b.value))
                   if comp_a.value[:common] > comp_b.value[:common]:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   elif comp_a.value[:common] < comp_b.value[:common]:
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   # the first common bytes match
                   elif len(comp_a.value) > len(comp_b.value):
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   else:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE

What is  comp_a.value=
 here ? Is it the binary sting of [op, value]/[op,bitmask] or only value/bi=
tmask ?

Thanks,
Pavana.

On Th= u, Feb 15, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Christoph Loibl <c@tix.at> wrote:
Hi Pavana,

Did you have a look into t= he actual code (thanks to Job=E2=80=99s comment) that is contained in the R= FC5575bis draft which should be identical from the behaviour:

Christoph

--=C2=A0
Christoph Loibl
c@tix.at=C2=A0| CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID:=C2=A00x4B2C00= 55 |=C2=A0http://www.= nextlayer.at



On 12.02.201= 8, at 12:03, PVLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
=C2=A0 In the RFC 5575, the following is gi= ven for the comparing the Flowspec components of types other then prefix.

} else {
common =3D
MIN(component_length(comp1), component_length(comp= 2));
cmp =3D memc= mp(data(comp1), data(comp2), common);
// not equal, lowest value has precedence
=
// equal, longest string has = precedence
}=C2= =A0


Here, what does data<= /b> refrer to=C2=A0 ?

Is it the binary form of 1) = [op, value]> / [op, bitmask]=C2=A0 or 2) Just [value] / [bitmask]
<= div>
eg:


1)=C2=A0= 01 18 58 58 58 04 01 46 81 50=C2=A0 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24=C2=A0 Port: 7= 0 | 80
=C2=A0
2)=C2=A0 01 18 58 58 58 04 03 5a c5 6e=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ---->=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24=C2=A0 Port:=C2=A0>=3D90 & <=3D 110

In the above FS rules,=C2=A0 Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to= compare the data of next type 4 (Port).=C2=A0
So do we ne= ed to do memcmp of=C2=A0=C2=A0(01 46 81 50) and=C2=A0=C2=A0(03 5a c5 6e) ?

Thanks,
Pavana.



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--001a1148dec07636190565386032-- From nobody Wed Feb 14 23:38:02 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA639124BAC for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:38:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ANOKeSFSxh5U for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hated.at (mail.hated.at [IPv6:2001:858:2:8::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 353BB126C23 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from 80-110-127-16.cgn.dynamic.surfer.at ([80.110.127.16] helo=[192.168.66.220]) by mail.hated.at with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1emDoY-0004w3-Bz; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:18:43 +0100 From: Christoph Loibl Message-Id: <9A8127C2-BADC-4E09-BE54-EBB5D07C994B@tix.at> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D56CC54C-4684-4A40-A77C-92151ED364AB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:37:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: idr wg To: PVLR Pavana Murthy References: <372B554B-47F1-49AC-8D66-37A7ED69E57F@tix.at> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] BGP Flowspec rules precedence order (RFC 5575) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 07:38:01 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D56CC54C-4684-4A40-A77C-92151ED364AB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0BB89E2A-3D21-4567-81A5-7ED914325A8B" --Apple-Mail=_0BB89E2A-3D21-4567-81A5-7ED914325A8B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Pavana, You can rather easily test the behaviour when you feed your case into = the python function: def main(): fs1 =3D FS_nlri(components=3D[ FS_component(component_type=3DIP_DESTINATION, = value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24')), FS_component(component_type=3D4, value=3Dbytearray([0x01, 0x46, = 0x81, 0x50])) ]) fs2 =3D FS_nlri(components=3D[ FS_component(component_type=3DIP_DESTINATION, = value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24')), FS_component(component_type=3D4, value=3Dbytearray([0x03, 0x5a, = 0xc5, 0x6e])) ]) print(flow_rule_cmp(fs1, fs2)) What happens is (I refer to line numbers of the code in the github repo https://github.com/stoffi92/flowspec-cmp/blob/master/flow_cmp.py = : *) The IP components are compared and as you mentioned: no decision can = be made since the ip components are equal. (we reach line 74 for the = equal ip components and continue with the next iteration) *) The second component _types_ are equal but not IP (we end up in the = branch in line 80 since the components are type=3D4 and not 1 or 2) *) The length of the second components is compared and equal, so we = continue in line 82 ** See below: this is basically where the compare that you asked for = happens ** *) Now we come to the point where we compare the string of bytes one by = one. As long as they are equal. (this is basically what memcmp does - = this is not very explicit in the python code, since it is done by the <, = > operators for the bytearray implicitly) In your case what it does is, that it compares 0x01 to 0x03 and figures = out that 0x01 is the lower value so it takes the branch in line 84 and = returns with A_HAS_PRECEDENCE from line 85 (if both of your components = would start with 0x01 it would continue to the second byte and so on). Your first FS nlri has precedence because of the =E2=80=9Clower=E2=80=9D = value. >> 01 18 58 58 58 04 01 46 81 50 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 = Port: 70 | 80 Discamer: I assumed that you encoded the components themselfs correctly = (the 01 46 81 50 and 03 5a c5 6e) Does this answer your question? Christoph -- Christoph Loibl c@tix.at | CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID: 0x4B2C0055 | http://www.nextlayer.at > On 15.02.2018, at 05:08, PVLR Pavana Murthy wrote: >=20 > Hi Christoph, > Even in the RFC5575bis, the following is given for comparing = non-prefix type components. >=20 > else: > # assuming comp_a.value, comp_b.value of type bytearray > if len(comp_a.value) =3D=3D len(comp_b.value): > if comp_a.value > comp_b.value: > return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE > if comp_a.value < comp_b.value: > return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE > # components equal -> continue with next component > else: > common =3D min(len(comp_a.value), = len(comp_b.value)) > if comp_a.value[:common] > comp_b.value[:common]: > return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE > elif comp_a.value[:common] < comp_b.value[:common]: > return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE > # the first common bytes match > elif len(comp_a.value) > len(comp_b.value): > return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE > else: > return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE >=20 > What is comp_a.value here ? Is it the binary sting of [op, = value]/[op,bitmask] or only value/bitmask ? >=20 > Thanks, > Pavana. >=20 > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Christoph Loibl > wrote: > Hi Pavana, >=20 > Did you have a look into the actual code (thanks to Job=E2=80=99s = comment) that is contained in the RFC5575bis draft which should be = identical from the behaviour: >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-06 = >=20 > Christoph >=20 > -- > Christoph Loibl > c@tix.at | CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID: 0x4B2C0055 | = http://www.nextlayer.at >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 12.02.2018, at 12:03, PVLR Pavana Murthy > wrote: >>=20 >> Hello, >> In the RFC 5575, the following is given for the comparing the = Flowspec components of types other then prefix. >>=20 >> } else { >> common =3D >> MIN(component_length(comp1), component_length(comp2)); >> cmp =3D memcmp(data(comp1), data(comp2), common); >> // not equal, lowest value has precedence >> // equal, longest string has precedence >> } >>=20 >>=20 >> Here, what does data refrer to ? >>=20 >> Is it the binary form of 1) [op, value]> / [op, bitmask] or 2) Just = [value] / [bitmask] >>=20 >> eg: >>=20 >>=20 >> 1) 01 18 58 58 58 04 01 46 81 50 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 = Port: 70 | 80 >>=20 >> 2) 01 18 58 58 58 04 03 5a c5 6e ----> Dst.Prefix: = 88.88.88.0/24 Port: >=3D90 & <=3D 110 >>=20 >> In the above FS rules, Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to = compare the data of next type 4 (Port). >> So do we need to do memcmp of (01 46 81 50) and (03 5a c5 6e) ? >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Pavana. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Idr mailing list >> Idr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr = >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_0BB89E2A-3D21-4567-81A5-7ED914325A8B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi = Pavana,

You can = rather easily test the behaviour when you feed your case into the python = function:

def = main():
    fs1 =3D FS_nlri(components=3D[
    =     FS_component(component_type=3DIP_DESTINATION, = value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24')),
    =     FS_component(component_type=3D4, value=3Dbytearray([0x01, = 0x46, 0x81, 0x50]))
    ])

    = fs2 =3D FS_nlri(components=3D[
        = FS_component(component_type=3DIP_DESTINATION, = value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24')),
    =     FS_component(component_type=3D4, value=3Dbytearray([0x03, = 0x5a, 0xc5, 0x6e]))
    ])
    = print(flow_rule_cmp(fs1, fs2))

What happens is (I refer to line = numbers of the code in the github repo
https://github.com/stoffi92/flowspec-cmp/blob/master/flow_cmp.p= y :

*) The IP components are compared and as you mentioned: no = decision can be made since the ip components are equal. (we reach line = 74 for the equal ip components and continue with the next = iteration)

*) = The second component _types_ are equal but not IP (we end up in the = branch in line 80 since the components are type=3D4 and not 1 or = 2)

*) The = length of the second components is compared and equal, so we continue in = line 82

** See = below: this is basically where the compare that you asked for happens = **

*) Now we = come to the point where we compare the string of bytes one by one. As = long as they are equal. (this is basically what memcmp does - this is = not very explicit in the python code, since it is done by the <, > = operators for the bytearray implicitly)

In your case what it does is, that it = compares 0x01 to 0x03 and figures out that 0x01 is the lower value so it = takes the branch in line 84 and returns with A_HAS_PRECEDENCE from line = 85 (if both of your components would start with 0x01 it would continue = to the second byte and so on).

Your first FS nlri has precedence = because of the =E2=80=9Clower=E2=80=9D value.

01 18 58 58 = 58 04 01 46 81 50  ----> = Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24  Port: 70 | = 80

Discamer: I assumed that you encoded the components themselfs = correctly (the 01 46 81 50 and 03 5a c5 6e)

Does this answer your = question?

Christoph

-- 
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c@tix.at | CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID: 0x4B2C0055 = | http://www.nextlayer.at



On 15.02.2018, at 05:08, PVLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> = wrote:

Hi Christoph,
  Even in = the  RFC5575bis,  the = following is given  for comparing non-prefix type = components. 

 else:
               # assuming comp_a.value, comp_b.value of type bytearray
               if len(comp_a.value) =3D=3D len(comp_b.value):
                   if comp_a.value > comp_b.value:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   if comp_a.value < comp_b.value:
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   # components equal -> continue with next component
               else:
                   common =3D min(len(comp_a.value), len(comp_b.value))
                   if comp_a.value[:common] > comp_b.value[:common]:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   elif comp_a.value[:common] < =
comp_b.value[:common]:
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   # the first common bytes match
                   elif len(comp_a.value) > len(comp_b.value):
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   else:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE

What is  =
comp_a.value here ? Is it the binary sting of [op, value]/[op,bitmask] =
or only value/bitmask ?

Thanks,
Pavana.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Christoph Loibl = <c@tix.at> wrote:
Hi = Pavana,

Did you have = a look into the actual code (thanks to Job=E2=80=99s comment) that is = contained in the RFC5575bis draft which should be identical from the = behaviour:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-06

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Loibl
c@tix.at | CL8-RIPE | = PGP-Key-ID: 0x4B2C0055 | http://www.nextlayer.at



On 12.02.2018, at 12:03, = PVLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
  In the RFC 5575, the following = is given for the comparing the Flowspec components of types other then = prefix.

} else {
common = =3D
MIN(component_length(comp1), = component_length(comp2));
cmp =3D memcmp(data(comp1), data(comp2), = common);
// not equal, lowest value has = precedence
// equal, longest string has = precedence
} 


Here, what does data refrer to  = ?

Is it the = binary form of 1) [op, value]> / [op, bitmask]  or 2) Just = [value] / [bitmask]

eg:


1)  01 18 58 58 58 04 01 = 46 81 50  ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24  Port: 70 | = 80
 
2)  01 18 58 58 58 04 03 = 5a c5 6e    ---->   Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24  Port: >=3D90 & <=3D = 110

In the above FS = rules,  Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to compare the data = of next type 4 (Port). 
So = do we need to do memcmp of  (01 = 46 81 50) and  (03 = 5a c5 6e) ?

Thanks,
Pavana.



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That answers my question completely :-). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Christoph Loibl wrote: > Hi Pavana, > > You can rather easily test the behaviour when you feed your case into the > python function: > > def main(): > fs1 =3D FS_nlri(components=3D[ > FS_component(component_type=3DIP_DESTINATION, > value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24')), > FS_component(component_type=3D4, value=3Dbytearray([0x01, 0x46, 0= x81, > 0x50])) > ]) > > fs2 =3D FS_nlri(components=3D[ > FS_component(component_type=3DIP_DESTINATION, > value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24')), > FS_component(component_type=3D4, value=3Dbytearray([0x03, 0x5a, 0= xc5, > 0x6e])) > ]) > print(flow_rule_cmp(fs1, fs2)) > > What happens is (I refer to line numbers of the code in the github repo > https://github.com/stoffi92/flowspec-cmp/blob/master/flow_cmp.py : > > *) The IP components are compared and as you mentioned: no decision can b= e > made since the ip components are equal. (we reach line 74 for the equal i= p > components and continue with the next iteration) > > *) The second component _types_ are equal but not IP (we end up in the > branch in line 80 since the components are type=3D4 and not 1 or 2) > > *) The length of the second components is compared and equal, so we > continue in line 82 > > ** See below: this is basically where the compare that you asked for > happens ** > > *) Now we come to the point where we compare the string of bytes one by > one. As long as they are equal. (this is basically what memcmp does - thi= s > is not very explicit in the python code, since it is done by the <, > > operators for the bytearray implicitly) > > In your case what it does is, that it compares 0x01 to 0x03 and figures > out that 0x01 is the lower value so it takes the branch in line 84 and > returns with A_HAS_PRECEDENCE from line 85 (if both of your components > would start with 0x01 it would continue to the second byte and so on). > > Your first FS nlri has precedence because of the =E2=80=9Clower=E2=80=9D = value. > > 01 *18 58 58 58* 04 *01 46 81 50 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 >> Port: 70 | 80* >> >> > Discamer: I assumed that you encoded the components themselfs correctly > (the 01 46 81 50 and 03 5a c5 6e) > > Does this answer your question? > > Christoph > > -- > Christoph Loibl > c@tix.at | CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID: 0x4B2C0055 | http://www.nextlayer.at > > > > On 15.02.2018, at 05:08, PVLR Pavana Murthy wrote: > > Hi Christoph, > Even in the RFC5575bis, the following is given for comparing > non-prefix type components. > > else: > # assuming comp_a.value, comp_b.value of type bytearray > if len(comp_a.value) =3D=3D len(comp_b.value): > if comp_a.value > comp_b.value: > return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE > if comp_a.value < comp_b.value: > return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE > # components equal -> continue with next component > else: > common =3D min(len(comp_a.value), len(comp_b.value)) > if comp_a.value[:common] > comp_b.value[:common]: > return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE > elif comp_a.value[:common] < comp_b.value[:common]: > return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE > # the first common bytes match > elif len(comp_a.value) > len(comp_b.value): > return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE > else: > return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE > > > *What is comp_a.value here ? Is it the binary sting of [op, value]/[op,b= itmask] or only value/bitmask ?* > > > Thanks, > > Pavana. > > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Christoph Loibl wrote: > >> Hi Pavana, >> >> Did you have a look into the actual code (thanks to Job=E2=80=99s commen= t) that >> is contained in the RFC5575bis draft which should be identical from the >> behaviour: >> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-06 >> >> Christoph >> >> -- >> Christoph Loibl >> c@tix.at | CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID: 0x4B2C0055 | http://www.nextlayer.at >> >> >> >> On 12.02.2018, at 12:03, PVLR Pavana Murthy wrote: >> >> Hello, >> In the RFC 5575, the following is given for the comparing the Flowspec >> components of types other then prefix. >> >> } else { >> common =3D >> MIN(component_length(comp1), component_length(comp2)); >> cmp =3D memcmp(data(comp1), data(comp2), common); >> // not equal, lowest value has precedence >> // equal, longest string has precedence >> } >> >> >> Here, what does *data* refrer to ? >> >> Is it the binary form of 1) [op, value]> / [op, bitmask] or 2) Just >> [value] / [bitmask] >> >> eg: >> >> >> 1) 01 *18 58 58 58* 04 *01 46 81 50 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 >> Port: 70 | 80* >> >> 2) 01* 18 58 58 58 *04* 03 5a c5 6e ----> Dst.Prefix: >> 88.88.88.0/24 Port: >=3D90 & <=3D 110* >> >> *In the above FS rules, Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to >> compare the data of next type 4 (Port). * >> *So do we need to do memcmp of (01 46 81 50) and (03 5a c5 6e) ?* >> >> Thanks, >> Pavana*.* >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Idr mailing list >> Idr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >> >> >> > > --f403045cf650bbd72405653c8886 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Christoph,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks a lot for the detail= ed explanation. That answers my question completely :-).



On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Christoph Loibl &l= t;c@tix.at> wro= te:
Hi Pavana,

You can rather ea= sily test the behaviour when you feed your case into the python function:

def main():<= /font>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 fs1 =3D FS= _nlri(components=3D[
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FS_component(component_type=3DIP_DESTINATION,= value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24')),
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FS_component(component_= type=3D4, value=3Dbytearray([0x01, 0x46, 0x81, 0x50]))
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ])

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 fs2 =3D FS_nlri(components=3D[
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FS_component(compon= ent_type=3DIP_DESTINATION, value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24')<= /a>),


*) The IP components= are compared and as you mentioned: no decision can be made since the ip co= mponents are equal. (we reach line 74 for the equal ip components and conti= nue with the next iteration)

*) The second compone= nt _types_ are equal but not IP (we end up in the branch in line 80 since t= he components are type=3D4 and not 1 or 2)

*) The = length of the second components is compared and equal, so we continue in li= ne 82

** See below: this is basically where the co= mpare that you asked for happens **

*) Now we come= to the point where we compare the string of bytes one by one. As long as t= hey are equal. (this is basically what memcmp does - this is not very expli= cit in the python code, since it is done by the <, > operators for th= e bytearray implicitly)

In your case what it does = is, that it compares 0x01 to 0x03 and figures out that 0x01 is the lower va= lue so it takes the branch in line 84 and returns with A_HAS_PRECEDENCE fro= m line 85 (if both of your components would start with 0x01 it would contin= ue to the second byte and so on).

Your first FS nl= ri has precedence because of the =E2=80=9Clower=E2=80=9D value.

01=C2=A018 58 58 58=C2=A004=C2=A001 46 81 50=C2=A0 ----> Dst.= Prefix:=C2=A088.88.88.0/= 24=C2=A0 Port: 70 | 80

Discamer: I assumed that you encoded the components themselfs correctly (t= he 01 46 81 50 and 03 5a c5 6e)

Does this answer y= our question?

=
Christoph

--=C2=A0
Christoph Loibl
c@tix.at=C2=A0| CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID:=C2=A00x4B2C00= 55 |=C2=A0http://www.= nextlayer.at



On 15= .02.2018, at 05:08, PVLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Chri= stoph,
=C2=A0 Even in the=C2=A0 RFC5575bis,=C2=A0=C2=A0the following is g= iven=C2=A0=C2=A0for comparing non-prefix type components.=C2=A0
<= br> 
 else=
:
               # assuming comp_a.value, comp_b.value of type bytearray
               if len(comp_a.value) =3D=3D len(comp_b.value):
                   if comp_a.value > comp_b.value:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   if comp_a.value < comp_b.value:
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   # components equal -> continue with next component
               else:
                   common =3D min(len(comp_a.value), len(comp_b.value))
                   if comp_a.value[:common] > comp_b.value[:common]:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   elif comp_a.value[:common] < comp_b.value[:common]:
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   # the first common bytes match
                   elif len(comp_a.value) > len(comp_b.value):
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   else:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE

What is  comp_a.value here ? Is it the binary sting of [op, value]/=
[op,bitmask] or only value/bitmask ?

Thanks,
Pavana.

On Th= u, Feb 15, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Christoph Loibl <c@tix.at> wrote:
Hi Pavana,

Did you have a look into t= he actual code (thanks to Job=E2=80=99s comment) that is contained in the R= FC5575bis draft which should be identical from the behaviour:

Christoph

= --=C2=A0
Christoph Loibl
c@tix.at=C2=A0| CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID:=C2=A00x4B2C0055 |=C2=A0http://www.nextlayer.at=



On 12.02.2018, at 12:03, PVLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wrote:
<= br class=3D"m_-4395167006316299433m_-4693473135615231940Apple-interchange-n= ewline">
Hello,
=C2=A0 In the RFC 5575, the following is given for t= he comparing the Flowspec components of types other then prefix.
=
} else {
common =3D
MIN(component_length(comp1), component_length(comp2));
cmp =3D memcmp(data(= comp1), data(comp2), common);
// not equal, lowest value has precedence
// equal, longest string has preceden= ce
}=C2=A0=


Here, what does data refrer= to=C2=A0 ?

Is it the binary form of 1) [op, value= ]> / [op, bitmask]=C2=A0 or 2) Just [value] / [bitmask]

eg:


1)=C2=A0 01 18 = 58 58 58 04 01 46 81 50=C2=A0 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24=C2=A0 Port: 70 | 80=
=C2=A0
2)=C2=A0 01 18 58 58 58 04 03 = 5a c5 6e=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ---->=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24=C2=A0 Port:=C2=A0>=3D90 & <=3D 110

In the above FS rules,=C2=A0 Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to= compare the data of next type 4 (Port).=C2=A0
So do we ne= ed to do memcmp of=C2=A0=C2=A0(01 46 81 50) and=C2=A0=C2=A0(03 5a c5 6e) ?

Thanks,
Pavana.



=
_______________________________________________
Idr mailing listIdr@ietf.org
https:/= /www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr


--f403045cf650bbd72405653c8886-- From nobody Thu Feb 15 05:22:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF3612DA00; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 05:22:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.947 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.947 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lobb3rNc_Fwr; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 05:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (50-245-122-97-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.245.122.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D81812D96D; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 05:22:38 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=166.176.251.46; From: "Susan Hares" To: "'Les Ginsberg \(ginsberg\)'" , Cc: References: <001e01d391a1$128e8a90$37ab9fb0$@ndzh.com> <1d73e50ba66841de9c07e47a531a3745@XCH-ALN-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <1d73e50ba66841de9c07e47a531a3745@XCH-ALN-001.cisco.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:05:41 -0500 Message-ID: <00d201d3a65d$aed99220$0c8cb660$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D3_01D3A633.C6044D70" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIz4wASNQp4KfhV05fnxbM9rcmM7QKaNmc1otAjgNA= Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] Early Code Point allocation for draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05 (12/8 to 12/22) X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:22:40 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01D3A633.C6044D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Les - Not yet. I have been sick for a week. I'm trying to push things through later today. Sue From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 9:40 PM To: Susan Hares; idr@ietf.org Cc: idr-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Idr] Early Code Point allocation for draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05 (12/8 to 12/22) Sue - Has early allocation been completed? I don't see any code point assigned in the BGP-LS registry (apologies if I missed it). Thanx. Les From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 7:45 PM To: idr@ietf.org Cc: idr-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Idr] Early Code Point allocation for draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05 (12/8 to 12/22) WG: We've received 7 positive comments for early allocation of the draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05.txt work. There were no problems pointed to with the draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05.txt specification. The WG chairs usually like a few more positive comments, but the December time period (12/8 to 12/22) may have reduced the number of comments. We received no substantial number of comments after the first week. Cisco has completed an implementation and is looking for an interoperability test prior to shipping code. The work has implementations that need the early allocation, a stable specification, and these positive comments on the list. I've received several comments requesting the processing of this call. Based on the WG continued request to get implementations early allocation of code points, I'm going to declare WG consensus on allocating these code points. I will forward this early allocation request to Alvaro Retana for processing. I think this points to the fact that we should go to single week early allocation request. The drafts either succeed or fail on the first week's work. Sue Hares WG Co-chair PS - I think this points to the fact that we should go to single week early allocation request. The drafts either succeed or fail on the first week's work. John and I are always looking for feedback to determine if we are following the wishes of the IDR WG in getting this early allocations. ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01D3A633.C6044D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Les –

 

Not yet.   I = have been sick for a week.  I’m trying to push things through = later today.

 

Sue =

 

From:= = Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Les Ginsberg = (ginsberg)
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 9:40 = PM
To: Susan Hares; idr@ietf.org
Cc: = idr-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Idr] Early Code Point = allocation for draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05 (12/8 to = 12/22)

 

Sue –

 

Has early allocation = been completed?

I don’t see any code point assigned in the = BGP-LS registry (apologies if I missed it).

 

Thanx.

 

    = Les

 

 

From: Idr = [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 = 7:45 PM
To: idr@ietf.org
Cc: idr-chairs@ietf.org
Subject= : Re: [Idr] Early Code Point allocation for = draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05 (12/8 to = 12/22)

 

WG: =

 

We’ve received 7 positive comments for early = allocation of the draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05.txt work.  = There were no problems pointed to with the = draft-ietf-idr-eag-distribution-05.txt specification.   The WG = chairs usually like a few more positive comments, but the December time = period (12/8 to 12/22) may have reduced the number of comments.  We = received no substantial number of comments after the first week. =

 

Cisco has completed an implementation and is looking = for an interoperability test prior to shipping code. The work has = implementations that need the early allocation, a stable specification, = and these positive comments on the list.  I’ve received = several comments requesting the processing of this call.  Based on = the WG continued request to get implementations early allocation of code = points, I’m going to declare WG consensus on allocating these code = points.  I will forward this early allocation request to Alvaro = Retana for processing.

 

I think this = points to the fact that we should go to single week early allocation = request.   The drafts either succeed or fail on the first = week’s work.

 

 

Sue = Hares

WG Co-chair

 

PS - I think = this points to the fact that we should go to single week early = allocation request.   The drafts either succeed or fail on the = first week’s work.   John and I are always looking for = feedback to determine if we are following the wishes of the IDR WG in = getting this early allocations.    

 

 

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During the process some changes have been made, some of them significant enough that I want to call out for your attention. Please take a look at the latest version, specifically the updated text related to multiple prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2. For your convenience, I think that the diff between -14 and -16 provides the clearest view: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14&url2= =3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 I think the changes are fine and that they don=E2=80=99t require the docume= nt returning to the WG. But I just want to give you the opportunity to look at them just in case. If anyone has concerns, please reply to this message. I plan on approving the document for publication by the end of next week (Feb/23). Thanks! Alvaro. On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org ( internet-drafts@ietf.org) wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP Authors : Stefano Previdi Clarence Filsfils Acee Lindem Arjun Sreekantiah Hannes Gredler Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2018-02-13 Abstract: The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) information. 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Dear idr WG:

This draft has been through the WG and IESG process and i= t is waiting final approval for publication.

During the process some changes have been made, som= e of them significant enough that I want to call out for your attention.=C2= =A0 Please take a look at the latest version, specifically the updated text= related to multiple prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2.=C2=A0 For your= convenience, I think that the diff between -14 and -16 provides the cleare= st view:

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I think the changes are fine an= d that they don=E2=80=99t require the document returning to the WG.=C2=A0 B= ut I just want to give you the opportunity to look at them just in case.=C2= =A0 If anyone has concerns, please reply to this message.=C2=A0 I plan on a= pproving the document for publication by the end of next week (Feb/23).

Thanks!

Alvaro.

On February 13, 2018 at= 10:31:47 PM, internet-drafts@i= etf.org (internet-drafts@ie= tf.org) wrote:

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dire= ctories.
This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF.

Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP
Authors : Stefano Previdi
Clarence Filsfils
Acee Lindem
Arjun Sreekantiah
Hannes Gredler
Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt
Pages : 19
Date : 2018-02-13

Abstract:
The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packe= t
flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging
source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet
containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents = a
topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is
maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain.

This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for
announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID)
information.



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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix= -sid-16

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https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid= -16


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Hello,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The following is given in the RF= C.=C2=A0

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+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| e | a |=C2=A0 =C2=A0len | 0 | 0 |not| m |
+---+---+---+---+---+--= -+---+---+

not - NOT bit. If set, logical negation of operation.
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m - Match bit. If set, this is a bitwise match operation=
defined as "(dat= a & value) =3D=3D value"; if unset, (data &
<= font face=3D"monospace, monospace">value) evaluates to TRUE if any of the b= its in the value
mask = are set in the data.


I will try to use all the combinations of 'not' and 'm' bi= ts. Please let me know if the following my understanding is correct.=C2=A0<= /font>

<= font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif">I will try to use the mask with SYN, ACK = bits of TCP header for this.
[CWR ECE URG ACK PSH RST SYN FIN]
mask =3D 0x12

  1. not-0, m-0=C2=A0 (data & mask) !=3D 0 i.e. either SYN or ACK bits sh= ould have been set in TCP header.
  2. not-0, m-1=C2=A0 (data & mask)=C2=A0 =3D=3D mask i.e. SYN and = ACK bits both should be set in TCP header.
  3. not-1,m-0=C2=A0 =C2=A0(data & mask) =3D=3D 0=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 i.e. both SYN and=C2=A0 ACK bits should not=C2=A0 be set in TCP head= er.
  4. not-1, m-1=C2=A0 (dat= a & mask) !=3D mask i.e. at least one of=C2=A0 SYN or ACK bits should n= ot be set in TCP header.

Thanks,
Pavana.
= =C2=A0

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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I note that the document still has the following text: "a BGP speaker receiving a prefix with a BGP Prefix-SID attribute and a label NLRI field of Implicit NULL" Am I the only one who doesn't know what the numeric value of "a label NLRI field of Implicit NULL" is?  There does not appear to be a definition of the numeric value of  "Implicit NULL" in RFC 8277, which is the only relevant item in the normative references.  Is a reference to RFC 3032 Section 2.1 required? On 2/15/2018 8:37 AM, Alvaro Retana wrote: > Dear idr WG: > > This draft has been through the WG and IESG process and it is waiting > final approval for publication. > > During the process some changes have been made, some of them > significant enough that I want to call out for your attention. Please > take a look at the latest version, specifically the updated text > related to multiple prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2.  For your > convenience, I think that the diff between -14 and -16 provides the > clearest view: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14&url2=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > > > I think the changes are fine and that they don’t require the document > returning to the WG.  But I just want to give you the opportunity to > look at them just in case.  If anyone has concerns, please reply to > this message.  I plan on approving the document for publication by the > end of next week (Feb/23). > > Thanks! > > Alvaro. > > On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org > (internet-drafts@ietf.org > ) wrote: > >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. >> >> Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP >> Authors : Stefano Previdi >> Clarence Filsfils >> Acee Lindem >> Arjun Sreekantiah >> Hannes Gredler >> Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt >> Pages : 19 >> Date : 2018-02-13 >> >> Abstract: >> The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet >> flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging >> source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet >> containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a >> topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is >> maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. >> >> This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for >> announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) >> information. >> >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ >> >> >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 >> >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 >> >> >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org >> . >> >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> I-D-Announce mailing list >> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >> >> >> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >> >> >> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_idr&d=DwICAg&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=-DXB84eU9m4cIlq2OOcCJCQQAwJXQQswyu3F0kG0VNo&m=yF0495B-NVp5DIlASsUbsM45SPzz8uoC8OecJguM3vA&s=BzTPrKQqOu71SaROHiK_7IeUpNHd2pDnQ11o3H5_ChE&e= --------------C153571448B7CA331B045257 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I note that the document still has the following text:

"a BGP speaker receiving a prefix with a BGP Prefix-SID attribute and a label NLRI field of Implicit NULL"

Am I the only one who doesn't know what the numeric value of "a label NLRI field of Implicit NULL" is?  There does not appear to be a definition of the numeric value of  "Implicit NULL" in RFC 8277, which is the only relevant item in the normative references.  Is a reference to RFC 3032 Section 2.1 required?


On 2/15/2018 8:37 AM, Alvaro Retana wrote:
Dear idr WG:

This draft has been through the WG and IESG process and it is waiting final approval for publication.

During the process some changes have been made, some of them significant enough that I want to call out for your attention.  Please take a look at the latest version, specifically the updated text related to multiple prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2.  For your convenience, I think that the diff between -14 and -16 provides the clearest view:


I think the changes are fine and that they don’t require the document returning to the WG.  But I just want to give you the opportunity to look at them just in case.  If anyone has concerns, please reply to this message.  I plan on approving the document for publication by the end of next week (Feb/23).

Thanks!

Alvaro.

On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org (internet-drafts@ietf.org) wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF.

Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP
Authors : Stefano Previdi
Clarence Filsfils
Acee Lindem
Arjun Sreekantiah
Hannes Gredler
Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt
Pages : 19
Date : 2018-02-13

Abstract:
The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet
flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging
source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet
containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a
topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is
maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain.

This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for
announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID)
information.



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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Thx, R. On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Eric C Rosen wrote: > I note that the document still has the following text: > > "a BGP speaker receiving a prefix with a BGP Prefix-SID attribute and a > label NLRI field of Implicit NULL" > > Am I the only one who doesn't know what the numeric value of "a label NLR= I > field of Implicit NULL" is? There does not appear to be a definition of > the numeric value of "Implicit NULL" in RFC 8277, which is the only > relevant item in the normative references. Is a reference to RFC 3032 > Section 2.1 required? > > > > On 2/15/2018 8:37 AM, Alvaro Retana wrote: > > Dear idr WG: > > This draft has been through the WG and IESG process and it is waiting > final approval for publication. > > During the process some changes have been made, some of them significant > enough that I want to call out for your attention. Please take a look at > the latest version, specifically the updated text related to multiple > prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2. For your convenience, I think th= at > the diff between -14 and -16 provides the clearest view: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp- > prefix-sid-14&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > > > I think the changes are fine and that they don=E2=80=99t require the docu= ment > returning to the WG. But I just want to give you the opportunity to look > at them just in case. If anyone has concerns, please reply to this > message. I plan on approving the document for publication by the end of > next week (Feb/23). > > Thanks! > > Alvaro. > > On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org ( > internet-drafts@ietf.org) wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. > > Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP > Authors : Stefano Previdi > Clarence Filsfils > Acee Lindem > Arjun Sreekantiah > Hannes Gredler > Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt > Pages : 19 > Date : 2018-02-13 > > Abstract: > The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet > flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging > source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet > containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a > topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is > maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. > > This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for > announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) > information. > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org > . > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing listIdr@ietf.orghttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3D= https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_idr&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Sc= bfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D-DXB84eU9m4cIlq2OOcCJCQQAwJXQQswyu3F0kG0VNo= &m=3DyF0495B-NVp5DIlASsUbsM45SPzz8uoC8OecJguM3vA&s=3DBzTPrKQqOu71SaROHiK_7I= eUpNHd2pDnQ11o3H5_ChE&e=3D > > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > --94eb2c1b531e62478d056544fa4d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Eric,

Isn't the fact that a value is defined in IANA r= egistry sufficient ?=C2=A0

http= s://www.iana.org/assignments/mpls-label-values/mpls-label-values.xhtml<= /font>

Do we have to quote all RFCs which define labe= l=C2=A0values= at each subsequent work ?=C2=A0
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Thx,
R.
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On Thu, Fe= b 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net> wr= ote:
=20 =20 =20
I note that the document still has the following text:

"a BGP speaker receiving a prefix with a BGP Prefix-SID attribute and a label NLRI field of Implicit NULL"

Am I the only one who doesn't know what the numer= ic value of "a label NLRI field of Implicit NULL" is?=C2=A0 Th= ere does not appear to be a definition of the numeric value of=C2=A0 "Implici= t NULL" in RFC 8277, which is the only relevant item in the normative references.=C2=A0 Is a reference to RFC 3032 Section 2.1 required?



On 2/15/2018 8:37 = AM, Alvaro Retana wrote:
=20 =20
Dear idr WG:

This draft has been through the WG and IESG process and it is waiting final approval for publication.

During the process some changes have been made, some of them significant enough that I want to call out for your attention.=C2= =A0 Please take a look at the latest version, specifically the updated text related to multiple prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2.=C2=A0 For your convenience, I think that the diff between -14 and -16 provides the clearest view:

= https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid= -14&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16=C2=A0

I think the changes are fine and that they don=E2=80=99t require the document returning= to the WG.=C2=A0 But I just want to give you the opportunity to look a= t them just in case.=C2=A0 If anyone has concerns, please reply to th= is message.=C2=A0 I plan on approving the document for publication by the end of next week (Feb/23).

Thanks!

Alvaro.

On February 13, 2018 at= 10:31:47 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org (inte= rnet-drafts@ietf.org) wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF.

Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP
Authors : Stefano Previdi
Clarence Filsfils
Acee Lindem
Arjun Sreekantiah
Hannes Gredler
Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt
Pages : 19
Date : 2018-02-13

Abstract:
The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet
flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging
source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet
containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a
topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is
maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain.

This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for
announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID)
information.



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr= -bgp-prefix-sid/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-= prefix-sid-16
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/d= raft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddra= ft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1711220000 definitions=main-1802150236 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 19:41:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B6C27DEDB3C8A8F4626190C5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A reference to the IANA "Special Purpose MPLS Label Values" registry would be more appropriate than my suggestion of a reference to RFC 3032. On 2/15/2018 2:23 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > > As the late-inning “closer” on this draft, I’m fine either way. > > Thanks, > > Acee > > *From: * on behalf of Robert Raszuk > *Date: *Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 2:10 PM > *To: *Eric C Rosen > *Cc: *Alvaro Retana , IDR List , > "idr-chairs@ietf.org" , > "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" > , Susan Hares > *Subject: *Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid > *Resent-From: * > *Resent-To: *Stefano Previdi , , > Acee Lindem , Arjun Sreekantiah , > > *Resent-Date: *Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 2:10 PM > > Hi Eric, > > Isn't the fact that a value is defined in IANA registry sufficient ? > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/mpls-label-values/mpls-label-values.xhtml > > Do we have to quote all RFCs which define label values at each > subsequent work ? > > Thx, > > R. > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Eric C Rosen > > wrote: > > I note that the document still has the following text: > > "a BGP speaker receiving a prefix with a BGP Prefix-SID attribute > and a label NLRI field of Implicit NULL" > > Am I the only one who doesn't know what the numeric value of "a > label NLRI field of Implicit NULL" is?  There does not appear to > be a definition of the numeric value of "Implicit NULL" in RFC > 8277, which is the only relevant item in the normative > references.  Is a reference to RFC 3032 Section 2.1 required? > > > > On 2/15/2018 8:37 AM, Alvaro Retana wrote: > > Dear idr WG: > > This draft has been through the WG and IESG process and it is > waiting final approval for publication. > > During the process some changes have been made, some of them > significant enough that I want to call out for your > attention.  Please take a look at the latest version, > specifically the updated text related to multiple > prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2. For your convenience, > I think that the diff between -14 and -16 provides the > clearest view: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14&url2=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > I think the changes are fine and that they don’t require the > document returning to the WG.  But I just want to give you the > opportunity to look at them just in case. If anyone has > concerns, please reply to this message.  I plan on approving > the document for publication by the end of next week (Feb/23). > > Thanks! > > Alvaro. > > On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, > internet-drafts@ietf.org(internet-drafts@ietf.org) > wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG > of the IETF. > > Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP > Authors : Stefano Previdi > Clarence Filsfils > Acee Lindem > Arjun Sreekantiah > Hannes Gredler > Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt > Pages : 19 > Date : 2018-02-13 > > Abstract: > The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to > steer a packet > flow through any topological path and service chain by > leveraging > source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to > a packet > containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID > represents a > topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is > maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. > > This document defines an optional, transitive BGP > attribute for > announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) > information. > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the > time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: > http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Idr mailing list > > Idr@ietf.org > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_idr&d=DwICAg&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=-DXB84eU9m4cIlq2OOcCJCQQAwJXQQswyu3F0kG0VNo&m=yF0495B-NVp5DIlASsUbsM45SPzz8uoC8OecJguM3vA&s=BzTPrKQqOu71SaROHiK_7IeUpNHd2pDnQ11o3H5_ChE&e= > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > --------------B6C27DEDB3C8A8F4626190C5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A reference to the IANA "Special Purpose MPLS Label Values" registry would be more appropriate than my suggestion of a reference to RFC 3032.


On 2/15/2018 2:23 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:

As the late-inning “closer” on this draft, I’m fine either way.

Thanks,

Acee

 

From: <rraszuk@gmail.com> on behalf of Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 2:10 PM
To: Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net>
Cc: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>, IDR List <idr@ietf.org>, "idr-chairs@ietf.org" <idr-chairs@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>
Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid
Resent-From: <alias-bounces@ietf.org>
Resent-To: Stefano Previdi <stefano@previdi.net>, <cf@cisco.com>, Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>, Arjun Sreekantiah <arjunhrs@gmail.com>, <hannes@rtbrick.com>
Resent-Date: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 2:10 PM

 

 

Isn't the fact that a value is defined in IANA registry sufficient ? 

 

 

Do we have to quote all RFCs which define label values at each subsequent work ? 

 

Thx,

R.

 

 

 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net> wrote:

I note that the document still has the following text:

"a BGP speaker receiving a prefix with a BGP Prefix-SID attribute and a label NLRI field of Implicit NULL"

Am I the only one who doesn't know what the numeric value of "a label NLRI field of Implicit NULL" is?  There does not appear to be a definition of the numeric value of  "Implicit NULL" in RFC 8277, which is the only relevant item in the normative references.  Is a reference to RFC 3032 Section 2.1 required?



On 2/15/2018 8:37 AM, Alvaro Retana wrote:

Dear idr WG:

 

This draft has been through the WG and IESG process and it is waiting final approval for publication.

 

During the process some changes have been made, some of them significant enough that I want to call out for your attention.  Please take a look at the latest version, specifically the updated text related to multiple prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2.  For your convenience, I think that the diff between -14 and -16 provides the clearest view:

 

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14&url2=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 

 

I think the changes are fine and that they don’t require the document returning to the WG.  But I just want to give you the opportunity to look at them just in case.  If anyone has concerns, please reply to this message.  I plan on approving the document for publication by the end of next week (Feb/23).

 

Thanks!

 

Alvaro.

 

On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org (internet-drafts@ietf.org) wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF.

Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP
Authors : Stefano Previdi
Clarence Filsfils
Acee Lindem
Arjun Sreekantiah
Hannes Gredler
Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt
Pages : 19
Date : 2018-02-13

Abstract:
The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet
flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging
source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet
containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a
topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is
maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain.

This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for
announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID)
information.



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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/

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Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:24:21 -0000 --089e082f6a4442f4ed05656f1552 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable strong +1 from having reviewed the draft in SG if it's really not implemented by anyone ... This will 1. simplify the draft significantly and improve its readability 2. remove bunch of weird corner cases I commented on that would need specification if v6 is in it Otherwise only serious comments pending was the clarity/correctness of the forwarding section (but I admit I did NOT read the newest version published so maybe they have been taken up) AFAIR .. On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote= : > Dear Alvaro and IDR WG: > > > > There is one more change we=E2=80=99d like to make to the draft that= requires > WG approval. One revelation during the review process for this draft is > that the SRv6 use case as currently documented isn=E2=80=99t really that = compelling > and there are some details that are unspecified. Other than validation, t= he > IPv6 SID TLV hasn=E2=80=99t been implemented. Consequently, we=E2=80=99d = like to remove the > IPv6 SID TLV and SRv6 dataplane specification from the draft. Are there a= ny > objections (other than the obvious one that it is very late to be making > this change)? > > > > Here are a list of implementations and none have implemented the IPv6 SID= : > > https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp- > prefix-sid%20implementations > > > > Note that the code point for the IPv6 SID would be deprecated since > validation has been implemented in several implementations. > > > > If there are no objections, I could make this change next week and we > could allow for an additional week for review. > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Alvaro Retana > *Date: *Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM > *To: *IDR List > *Cc: *"draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" sid@ietf.org>, "idr-chairs@ietf.org" , Susan Hares < > shares@ndzh.com> > *Subject: *Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid > *Resent-From: * > *Resent-To: *Stefano Previdi , , Acee > Lindem , Arjun Sreekantiah , < > hannes@rtbrick.com> > *Resent-Date: *Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM > > > > Dear idr WG: > > > > This draft has been through the WG and IESG process and it is waiting > final approval for publication. > > > > During the process some changes have been made, some of them significant > enough that I want to call out for your attention. Please take a look at > the latest version, specifically the updated text related to multiple > prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2. For your convenience, I think th= at > the diff between -14 and -16 provides the clearest view: > > > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp- > prefix-sid-14&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > > > I think the changes are fine and that they don=E2=80=99t require the docu= ment > returning to the WG. But I just want to give you the opportunity to look > at them just in case. If anyone has concerns, please reply to this > message. I plan on approving the document for publication by the end of > next week (Feb/23). > > > > Thanks! > > > > Alvaro. > > > > On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org ( > internet-drafts@ietf.org) wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. > > Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP > Authors : Stefano Previdi > Clarence Filsfils > Acee Lindem > Arjun Sreekantiah > Hannes Gredler > Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt > Pages : 19 > Date : 2018-02-13 > > Abstract: > The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet > flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging > source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet > containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a > topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is > maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. > > This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for > announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) > information. > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > --089e082f6a4442f4ed05656f1552 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
strong +1 from having reviewed the draft in= SG if it's really not implemented by anyone ... This will

1. simplify the draft significantly and improve its readability
= 2. remove bunch of weird corner cases I commented on that would need specif= ication if v6 is in it

Otherwise only serious comments pendin= g was the clarity/correctness of the forwarding section (but I admit I did = NOT read the newest version published so maybe they have been taken up) AFA= IR ..

O= n Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <<= a href=3D"mailto:acee@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Dear Alvaro and IDR WG:

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There is one more change we= =E2=80=99d like to make to the draft that requires WG approval. One revelat= ion during the review process for this draft is that the SRv6 use case as c= urrently documented isn=E2=80=99t really that compelling and there are some details that are unspecified. Other than validation, the IPv6 SID TLV= hasn=E2=80=99t been implemented. Consequently, we=E2=80=99d like to remove= the IPv6 SID TLV and SRv6 dataplane specification from the draft. Are ther= e any objections (other than the obvious one that it is very late to be making this change)?

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

Here are a list of implementations and none have imp= lemented the IPv6 SID:

https://trac.= ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid%20implementa= tions

=C2=A0

Note that the code point for the IPv6 SID would be d= eprecated since validation has been implemented in several implementations.= =C2=A0

=C2=A0

If there are no objections, I could make this change= next week and we could allow for an additional week for review.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Alvaro Retana <<= a href=3D"mailto:aretana.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">aretana.ietf@gma= il.com>
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM
To: IDR List <i= dr@ietf.org>
Cc: "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" <= ;draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org>, "idr-chairs@ietf.org" &l= t;idr-chairs@ietf.= org>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>
Subject: Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid
Resent-From: <alias-bounces@ietf.org>
Resent-To: Stefano Previdi <stefano@previdi.net>, <cf@cisco.com>, Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>, Arjun = Sreekantiah <arj= unhrs@gmail.com>, <hannes@rtbrick.com>
Resent-Date: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM=

=C2=A0

Dear idr WG:

=C2=A0

This draft has been through the WG and = IESG process and it is waiting final approval for publication.

=C2=A0

During the process some changes have be= en made, some of them significant enough that I want to call out for your attention.=C2=A0 Please take a look at the latest version, specifically th= e updated text related to multiple prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2.= =C2=A0 For your convenience, I think that the diff between -14 and -16 prov= ides the clearest view:

=C2=A0

https://www.i= etf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14&url2= =3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16=C2= =A0

=C2=A0

I think the changes= are fine and that they don=E2=80=99t require the document returning to the= WG.=C2=A0 But I just want to give you the opportunity to look at them just= in case.=C2=A0 If anyone has concerns, please reply to this message.=C2=A0 I plan on appr= oving the document for publication by the end of next week (Feb/23).=

=C2=A0

Thanks!

=C2=A0

Alvaro.

=C2=A0

On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, = internet-drafts@ietf.org (internet-drafts@iet= f.org) wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF.

Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP
Authors : Stefano Previdi
Clarence Filsfils
Acee Lindem
Arjun Sreekantiah
Hannes Gredler
Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt
Pages : 19
Date : 2018-02-13

Abstract:
The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet
flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging
source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet
containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a
topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is
maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain.

This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for
announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID)
information.



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft= -ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-id= r-bgp-prefix-sid-16
https://datatracker.ietf.org/do= c/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2= =3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce<= /span>
Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html
or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt


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AH8x2271PrAnRtXc0iSm+7kfCzym2jKWoxJ8tt4oGzn79T+hjl12yJV4H8W2oeBSst4kGuTsxH7geZQGhjzRoKD5ks4= X-Received: by 10.223.157.22 with SMTP id k22mr8530817wre.208.1518903918958; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 13:45:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rraszuk@gmail.com Received: by 10.28.0.7 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 13:45:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <790D778D-19CF-4A2E-81DD-547C69E2E7BF@cisco.com> References: <790D778D-19CF-4A2E-81DD-547C69E2E7BF@cisco.com> From: Robert Raszuk Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:45:18 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BocjhQPR5OFMmnBgyAhqoo_j4GA Message-ID: To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: Tony Przygienda , "idr@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" , Susan Hares , "idr-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f40304389254899c1a05656f603d" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:45:24 -0000 --f40304389254899c1a05656f603d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Acee, Changes look good in general. I would however keep reference to RFC4760 as RFC3107 / RFC8277 are actively using it :-). Also since you removed the reference to SAFI 2/1 I would think the paragraph describing it needs to be changes to say: The BGP Prefix-SID attribute defined in this document can be attached to prefixes from BGP labeled IPv4/IPv6 Unicast ([RFC8277 ]). instead of: The BGP Prefix-SID attribute defined in this document can be attached to prefixes from Address Family Identifier (AFI)/ Subsequent Address Family Identifier (SAFI) combinations: Multiprotocol BGP labeled IPv4/IPv6 Unicast ([RFC8277 ]). Thx, Robert. On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:36 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote= : > Hi Tony, > > Thanks for the support. I=E2=80=99ve attached the changes I=E2=80=99m pro= posing =E2=80=93 it is > actually a pretty straight forward extraction. > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > *From: *Tony Przygienda > *Date: *Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 4:24 PM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *Alvaro Retana , IDR List , " > idr-chairs@ietf.org" , Susan Hares = , > "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" sid@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid > > > > strong +1 from having reviewed the draft in SG if it's really not > implemented by anyone ... This will > > 1. simplify the draft significantly and improve its readability > > 2. remove bunch of weird corner cases I commented on that would need > specification if v6 is in it > > Otherwise only serious comments pending was the clarity/correctness of th= e > forwarding section (but I admit I did NOT read the newest version publish= ed > so maybe they have been taken up) AFAIR .. > > > > On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: > > Dear Alvaro and IDR WG: > > > > There is one more change we=E2=80=99d like to make to the draft that= requires > WG approval. One revelation during the review process for this draft is > that the SRv6 use case as currently documented isn=E2=80=99t really that = compelling > and there are some details that are unspecified. Other than validation, t= he > IPv6 SID TLV hasn=E2=80=99t been implemented. Consequently, we=E2=80=99d = like to remove the > IPv6 SID TLV and SRv6 dataplane specification from the draft. Are there a= ny > objections (other than the obvious one that it is very late to be making > this change)? > > > > Here are a list of implementations and none have implemented the IPv6 SID= : > > https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp- > prefix-sid%20implementations > > > > Note that the code point for the IPv6 SID would be deprecated since > validation has been implemented in several implementations. > > > > If there are no objections, I could make this change next week and we > could allow for an additional week for review. > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Alvaro Retana > *Date: *Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM > *To: *IDR List > *Cc: *"draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" sid@ietf.org>, "idr-chairs@ietf.org" , Susan Hares < > shares@ndzh.com> > *Subject: *Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid > *Resent-From: * > *Resent-To: *Stefano Previdi , , Acee > Lindem , Arjun Sreekantiah , < > hannes@rtbrick.com> > *Resent-Date: *Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM > > > > Dear idr WG: > > > > This draft has been through the WG and IESG process and it is waiting > final approval for publication. > > > > During the process some changes have been made, some of them significant > enough that I want to call out for your attention. Please take a look at > the latest version, specifically the updated text related to multiple > prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2. For your convenience, I think th= at > the diff between -14 and -16 provides the clearest view: > > > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp- > prefix-sid-14&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > > > I think the changes are fine and that they don=E2=80=99t require the docu= ment > returning to the WG. But I just want to give you the opportunity to look > at them just in case. If anyone has concerns, please reply to this > message. I plan on approving the document for publication by the end of > next week (Feb/23). > > > > Thanks! > > > > Alvaro. > > > > On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org ( > internet-drafts@ietf.org) wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. > > Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP > Authors : Stefano Previdi > Clarence Filsfils > Acee Lindem > Arjun Sreekantiah > Hannes Gredler > Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt > Pages : 19 > Date : 2018-02-13 > > Abstract: > The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet > flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging > source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet > containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a > topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is > maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. > > This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for > announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) > information. > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > --f40304389254899c1a05656f603d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Acee,

Changes look good in general.=C2=A0

I would however keep reference to RFC= 4760 as=C2=A0 RFC3107 / RFC8277 are actively using it :-).=C2=A0

Also since you removed the refer= ence to SAFI 2/1 I would think the paragraph describing it needs to be chan= ges to say:

The BGP Prefix-SID attrib=
ute defined in this document can be attached
to prefixes from BGP labeled IPv4/IPv6 Unicast ([RFC8277]).


instead of: 

The BG=
P Prefix-SID attribute defined in this document can be attached
to prefixes from Address Family Identifier (AFI)/ Subsequent Address
Family Identifier (SAFI) combinations:

   Multiprotocol BGP labeled IPv4/IPv6 Unicast ([RFC8277]).

Thx,
Robert.


On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:36 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) &l= t;acee@cisco.com>= ; wrote:

Hi Tony,

Thanks for the support. I=E2=80=99ve attached the ch= anges I=E2=80=99m proposing =E2=80=93 it is actually a pretty straight forw= ard extraction.

Thanks,
Acee

=C2=A0

From: Tony Przygienda <= ;tonysietf@gmail.c= om>
Date: Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 4:24 PM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>, IDR List <idr@ietf.org>, "idr-chairs@ietf.org" &= lt;idr-chairs@ietf= .org>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@= ietf.org" <draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org>=
Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid

=C2=A0

2. remove bunch of weird corner cases I commented on that would need = specification if v6 is in it

Otherwise only seri= ous comments pending was the clarity/correctness of the forwarding section = (but I admit I did NOT read the newest version published so maybe they have been taken up) AFAIR ..

=C2=A0

On Sat, Feb 17, 201= 8 at 12:40 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>= ; wrote:

Dear Alvaro and IDR WG:

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There is one more change we=E2=80=99d like t= o make to the draft that requires WG approval. One revelation during the re= view process for this draft is that the SRv6 use case as currently document= ed isn=E2=80=99t really that compelling and there are some details that are unspecified. Other than val= idation, the IPv6 SID TLV hasn=E2=80=99t been implemented. Consequently, we= =E2=80=99d like to remove the IPv6 SID TLV and SRv6 dataplane specification= from the draft. Are there any objections (other than the obvious one that it is very late to be making this change)?

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

Here are a list of implementations and none have implemented the IPv6= SID:

https://trac.ietf= .org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid%20implementation= s

=C2=A0

Note that the code point for the IPv6 SID would be deprecated since v= alidation has been implemented in several implementations. =C2=A0=

=C2=A0

If there are no objections, I could make this change next week and we= could allow for an additional week for review.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Alvaro= Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM
To: IDR List <idr@ietf.org>=
Cc: "draf= t-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-idr-b= gp-prefix-sid@ietf.org>, "idr-chairs@ietf.org= " <idr-chairs@ietf.org>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com><= br> Subject: Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid
Resent-From: <alias-bounces= @ietf.org>
Resent-To: Stefano Previdi <st= efano@previdi.net>, <= cf@cisco.com>, Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com= >, Arjun Sreekantiah <arjunhrs@gmail.com= >, <= hannes@rtbrick.com>
Resent-Date: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM=

=C2=A0

Dear idr WG:<= /span>

=C2=A0<= u>

This draft has= been through the WG and IESG process and it is waiting final approval for = publication.

=C2=A0<= u>

During the pro= cess some changes have been made, some of them significant enough that I wa= nt to call out for your attention.=C2=A0 Please take a look at the latest v= ersion, specifically the updated text related to multiple prefixes/paths in sectio= ns 4.1 and 4.2.=C2=A0 For your convenience, I think that the diff between -= 14 and -16 provides the clearest view:

=C2=A0<= u>

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16=C2=A0

=C2=A0

I think the changes are fine and that they don=E2=80=99t require the = document returning to the WG.=C2=A0 But I just want to give you the opportu= nity to look at them just in case.=C2=A0 If anyone has concerns, please rep= ly to this message.=C2=A0 I plan on approving the document for publication by the end= of next week (Feb/23).

=C2=A0

Thanks!

=C2=A0

Alvaro.

=C2=A0

On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, = internet-drafts@ietf.org (internet-drafts@iet= f.org) wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF.

Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP
Authors : Stefano Previdi
Clarence Filsfils
Acee Lindem
Arjun Sreekantiah
Hannes Gredler
Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt
Pages : 19
Date : 2018-02-13

Abstract:
The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet
flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging
source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet
containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a
topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is
maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain.

This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for
announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID)
information.



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft= -ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-id= r-bgp-prefix-sid-16
https://datatracker.ietf.org/do= c/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2= =3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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Tony Przygienda , "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" , "idr-chairs@ietf.org" , "idr@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113fbe787e05d70565708185" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:06:11 -0000 --001a113fbe787e05d70565708185 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Acee, Changes look good to me! Jeff On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 13:37 Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Tony, > > Thanks for the support. I=E2=80=99ve attached the changes I=E2=80=99m pro= posing =E2=80=93 it is > actually a pretty straight forward extraction. > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > *From: *Tony Przygienda > *Date: *Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 4:24 PM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *Alvaro Retana , IDR List , " > idr-chairs@ietf.org" , Susan Hares = , > "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org> > > > *Subject: *Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid > > > > strong +1 from having reviewed the draft in SG if it's really not > implemented by anyone ... This will > > 1. simplify the draft significantly and improve its readability > > 2. remove bunch of weird corner cases I commented on that would need > specification if v6 is in it > > Otherwise only serious comments pending was the clarity/correctness of th= e > forwarding section (but I admit I did NOT read the newest version publish= ed > so maybe they have been taken up) AFAIR .. > > > > On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: > > Dear Alvaro and IDR WG: > > > > There is one more change we=E2=80=99d like to make to the draft that= requires > WG approval. One revelation during the review process for this draft is > that the SRv6 use case as currently documented isn=E2=80=99t really that = compelling > and there are some details that are unspecified. Other than validation, t= he > IPv6 SID TLV hasn=E2=80=99t been implemented. Consequently, we=E2=80=99d = like to remove the > IPv6 SID TLV and SRv6 dataplane specification from the draft. Are there a= ny > objections (other than the obvious one that it is very late to be making > this change)? > > > > Here are a list of implementations and none have implemented the IPv6 SID= : > > > https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid%20imple= mentations > > > > Note that the code point for the IPv6 SID would be deprecated since > validation has been implemented in several implementations. > > > > If there are no objections, I could make this change next week and we > could allow for an additional week for review. > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Alvaro Retana > *Date: *Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM > *To: *IDR List > *Cc: *"draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org>, "idr-chairs@ietf.org" < > idr-chairs@ietf.org>, Susan Hares > *Subject: *Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid > *Resent-From: * > *Resent-To: *Stefano Previdi , , Acee > Lindem , Arjun Sreekantiah , < > hannes@rtbrick.com> > *Resent-Date: *Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM > > > > Dear idr WG: > > > > This draft has been through the WG and IESG process and it is waiting > final approval for publication. > > > > During the process some changes have been made, some of them significant > enough that I want to call out for your attention. Please take a look at > the latest version, specifically the updated text related to multiple > prefixes/paths in sections 4.1 and 4.2. For your convenience, I think th= at > the diff between -14 and -16 provides the clearest view: > > > > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-14&url2= =3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > > > > I think the changes are fine and that they don=E2=80=99t require the docu= ment > returning to the WG. But I just want to give you the opportunity to look > at them just in case. If anyone has concerns, please reply to this > message. I plan on approving the document for publication by the end of > next week (Feb/23). > > > > Thanks! > > > > Alvaro. > > > > On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org ( > internet-drafts@ietf.org) wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. > > Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP > Authors : Stefano Previdi > Clarence Filsfils > Acee Lindem > Arjun Sreekantiah > Hannes Gredler > Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt > Pages : 19 > Date : 2018-02-13 > > Abstract: > The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet > flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging > source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet > containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a > topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is > maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. > > This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for > announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) > information. > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > --001a113fbe787e05d70565708185 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Acee,

Changes look good to me!
Jeff

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 13:37 Acee Lindem (acee) &l= t;acee@cisco.com> wrote:
=

Hi Tony,

Thanks for the support. I=E2=80=99ve attached the ch= anges I=E2=80=99m proposing =E2=80=93 it is actually a pretty straight forw= ard extraction.

Thanks,
Acee

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From: Tony Przygienda <= ;tonysietf@gmail.c= om>
Date: Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 4:24 PM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>, IDR List <idr@ietf.org>, "idr-chairs@ietf.org" &= lt;idr-chairs@ietf= .org>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, "draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.= org" <draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org>

Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid

1. simplify the dra= ft significantly and improve its readability

2. remove bunch of weird corner cases I commented on that would need = specification if v6 is in it

=

Otherwise only seri= ous comments pending was the clarity/correctness of the forwarding section = (but I admit I did NOT read the newest version published so maybe they have been taken up) AFAIR ..

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On Sat, Feb 17, 201= 8 at 12:40 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>= ; wrote:

Dear Alvaro and IDR WG:

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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There is one more change we=E2=80=99d like t= o make to the draft that requires WG approval. One revelation during the re= view process for this draft is that the SRv6 use case as currently document= ed isn=E2=80=99t really that compelling and there are some details that are unspecified. Other than val= idation, the IPv6 SID TLV hasn=E2=80=99t been implemented. Consequently, we= =E2=80=99d like to remove the IPv6 SID TLV and SRv6 dataplane specification= from the draft. Are there any objections (other than the obvious one that it is very late to be making this change)?

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Here are a list of implementations and none have implemented the IPv6= SID:

https://trac.ietf= .org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid%20implementations

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Note that the code point for the IPv6 SID would be deprecated since v= alidation has been implemented in several implementations. =C2=A0=

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If there are no objections, I could make this change next week and we= could allow for an additional week for review.

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Thanks,

Acee

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From: Alvaro= Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM
To: IDR List <idr@ietf.org>=
Cc: "draf= t-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-idr-b= gp-prefix-sid@ietf.org>, "idr-chairs@ietf.org= " <idr-chairs@ietf.org>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com><= br> Subject: Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid
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Resent-To: Stefano Previdi <st= efano@previdi.net>, <= cf@cisco.com>, Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com= >, Arjun Sreekantiah <arjunhrs@gmail.com= >, <= hannes@rtbrick.com>
Resent-Date: Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:37 AM=

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Dear idr WG:

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This draft has= been through the WG and IESG process and it is waiting final approval for = publication.

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During the pro= cess some changes have been made, some of them significant enough that I wa= nt to call out for your attention.=C2=A0 Please take a look at the latest v= ersion, specifically the updated text related to multiple prefixes/paths in sectio= ns 4.1 and 4.2.=C2=A0 For your convenience, I think that the diff between -= 14 and -16 provides the clearest view:

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https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-s= id-14&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16=C2=A0

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I think the changes are fine and that they don=E2=80=99t require the = document returning to the WG.=C2=A0 But I just want to give you the opportu= nity to look at them just in case.=C2=A0 If anyone has concerns, please rep= ly to this message.=C2=A0 I plan on approving the document for publication by the end= of next week (Feb/23).

=C2=A0

Thanks!

=C2=A0

Alvaro.

=C2=A0

On February 13, 2018 at 10:31:47 PM, = internet-drafts@ietf.org (internet-drafts@iet= f.org) wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF.

Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP
Authors : Stefano Previdi
Clarence Filsfils
Acee Lindem
Arjun Sreekantiah
Hannes Gredler
Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16.txt
Pages : 19
Date : 2018-02-13

Abstract:
The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet
flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging
source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet
containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a
topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is
maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain.

This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for
announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID)
information.



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf= -idr-bgp-prefix-sid/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
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A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddr= aft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-16


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Feedback from WG is welcome here. The draft RECOMMENDS the following procedure in case of a conflict: ... it is RECOMMENDED that the first prefix using the label index is selected. In BGP there is no guarantee about ordered delivery of BGP prefixes. It may work such in some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. So if we recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 and install in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the data plane will get quite severely messed up and even finding it during troubleshooting will be quite hard. Also as pointed out already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same label across nodes according to draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segments-02. Now if we want to accomplish the same in BGP we would need to advertise different prefixes with the same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above paragraph does prevents that. Note that adding and advertising the _same_ prefix from different nodes will not work as BGP speakers may pick only one (best path) and use it for forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not always be enabled/use same set. The crux of the issue when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about prefixes, but their next hops which unfortunately the draft does not even mention once. Kind regards, Robert. --f403045ea08eb745f405657a7087 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Acee,

Since we are at the open surgery of this draft there= is one more point which did not got resolved during our offline discussion= . Feedback from WG is welcome here.

<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:small">The draft RECOMMENDS the following procedure in case of a= conflict:=C2=A0

... it is RECOMMENDED tha=
t the first prefix using the label index is selected.

In BGP there is no guarantee about orde= red delivery of BGP prefixes.=C2=A0=C2=A0It may work such in some sp= ecific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. So if we recommend to pick = one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 and install in forwarding the s= ame SID for those I am afraid the data plane will get quite severely messed= up and even finding it during troubleshooting will be quite hard.=C2=A0

Also as pointed out = already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same label across nodes acc= ording to=C2=A0draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segments-02. Now if we want t= o accomplish the same in BGP we would need to advertise different prefixes = with the same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above paragraph does prevents tha= t. Note that adding and advertising the _same_ prefix from different nodes = will not work as BGP speakers may pick only one (best path) and use it for = forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not always be enabled/use same set.<= /div>

The crux of the issue = when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about prefixes, but their next = hops which unfortunately the draft does not even mention once.

Kind regards,
Robert.=C2=A0

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MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01D3A8A6.CA4ABED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert and Acee: =20 If we do =E2=80=9Copen surgery=E2=80=9D, this document will need to go = back through the process (WG LC, IETF LC, and IESG Review).=20 =20 Sue Hares IDR co-chiar =20 From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:57 AM To: Acee Lindem (acee) Cc: idr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid =20 Hi Acee, =20 Since we are at the open surgery of this draft there is one more point = which did not got resolved during our offline discussion. Feedback from = WG is welcome here. =20 The draft RECOMMENDS the following procedure in case of a conflict:=20 =20 ... it is RECOMMENDED that the first prefix using the label index is = selected. =20 In BGP there is no guarantee about ordered delivery of BGP prefixes. It = may work such in some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. = So if we recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 = and install in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the data = plane will get quite severely messed up and even finding it during = troubleshooting will be quite hard.=20 =20 Also as pointed out already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same = label across nodes according to = draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segments-02. Now if we want to accomplish = the same in BGP we would need to advertise different prefixes with the = same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above paragraph does prevents that. = Note that adding and advertising the _same_ prefix from different nodes = will not work as BGP speakers may pick only one (best path) and use it = for forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not always be enabled/use = same set. =20 The crux of the issue when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about = prefixes, but their next hops which unfortunately the draft does not = even mention once. =20 Kind regards, Robert.=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01D3A8A6.CA4ABED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Robert and Acee:

 

If we do =E2=80=9Copen surgery=E2=80=9D, this document will need to = go back through the process (WG LC, IETF LC, and IESG Review). =

 

Sue Hares

IDR co-chiar

 

From:= = Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert = Raszuk
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:57 AM
To: = Acee Lindem (acee)
Cc: idr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: = [Idr] Review Updates to = draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid

 

Hi = Acee,

 

Since we are at the open = surgery of this draft there is one more point which did not got resolved = during our offline discussion. Feedback from WG is welcome = here.

 

The draft RECOMMENDS the = following procedure in case of a = conflict: 

 

... it is RECOMMENDED that the =
first prefix using the label index is =
selected.

 

In BGP there is no guarantee about ordered delivery of BGP = prefixes.  It may work such in = some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. So if we = recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 and = install in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the data plane = will get quite severely messed up and even finding it during = troubleshooting will be quite = hard. 

 

Also as pointed out already = MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same label across nodes = according to draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segments-02. Now if we = want to accomplish the same in BGP we would need to advertise different = prefixes with the same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above paragraph does = prevents that. Note that adding and advertising the _same_ prefix from = different nodes will not work as BGP speakers may pick only one (best = path) and use it for forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not always = be enabled/use same set.

 

The crux of the issue when = advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about prefixes, but their next = hops which unfortunately the draft does not even mention = once.

 

Kind = regards,

Robert. 

 

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That is to construct MPLS forwarding data plane. What goes into data plane is label and next hop - NLRI prefix really does not matter here. The switching path is MPLS2MPLS not IP2MPLS in my point. So what is going to happen if someone verbatim follows what is written in this paragraph is that two prefixes P1 & P2 with different next hops NH1 & NH2 and the same SID index S are present in BGP. This is the "conflict" paragraph is trying to address. Now some router R1 will receive P1 first and some other router R2 will receive P2 first. So what get's programmed into data plane is this: R1 - lookup label: S index +base with next hop: NH1 R2 - lookup label: S index + base with next hop NH2 As you can see creating a rule based on the order in which different prefixes are received will result in rather messy data plane. Cheers, R. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Robert, > > > > *From: * on behalf of Robert Raszuk > *Date: *Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 5:57 AM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *IDR List > *Subject: *Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid > > > > Hi Acee, > > > > Since we are at the open surgery of this draft there is one more point > which did not got resolved during our offline discussion. Feedback from W= G > is welcome here. > > > > The draft RECOMMENDS the following procedure in case of a conflict: > > > > ... it is RECOMMENDED that the first prefix using the label index is sele= cted. > > > > In BGP there is no guarantee about ordered delivery of BGP prefixes. It > may work such in some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. S= o > if we recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 and > install in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the data plane > will get quite severely messed up and even finding it during > troubleshooting will be quite hard. > > > > Also as pointed out already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same > label across nodes according to draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segments-0= 2. > Now if we want to accomplish the same in BGP we would need to advertise > different prefixes with the same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above > paragraph does prevents that. Note that adding and advertising the _same_ > prefix from different nodes will not work as BGP speakers may pick only o= ne > (best path) and use it for forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not > always be enabled/use same set. > > > > I don=E2=80=99t understand this concern either. The text applies to diffe= rence > prefixes, not an anycast where multiple BGP speakers with advertise the > same tuple. > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > The crux of the issue when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about > prefixes, but their next hops which unfortunately the draft does not even > mention once. > > > > Kind regards, > > Robert. > > > --94eb2c1b4ec859ba0605657e98f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Acee,

We are talking about 3107 here. That is to construct= MPLS forwarding data plane.

What goes into data plane is label and next hop - NLRI prefix real= ly does not matter here. The switching path is MPLS2MPLS not IP2MPLS in my = point.=C2=A0

So what i= s going to happen if someone verbatim follows what is written in this parag= raph is that two prefixes P1 & P2 with different next hops NH1 & NH= 2 and the same SID index S are present in BGP. This is the "conflict&q= uot; paragraph is trying to address.=C2=A0

Now some router R1 will receive P1 first and some othe= r router R2 will receive P2 first.=C2=A0

=
So what get's programmed into data plane is this:=C2= =A0

R1 - lookup label:= S index +base with next hop: NH1=C2=A0

<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:small">R2 - lookup label: S index + base with next hop NH2
=

As you can see creating a r= ule based on the order in which different prefixes are received will result= in rather messy data plane.

Cheers,
R.









On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 1:38 P= M, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Robert,

=C2=A0

From: <rraszuk@gmail.com> on behalf= of Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 5:57 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: IDR List <i= dr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=

Since we are at the = open surgery of this draft there is one more point which did not got resolv= ed during our offline discussion. Feedback from WG is welcome here.

=C2=A0=

The draft RECOMMENDS= the following procedure in case of a conflict:=C2=A0<= /span>

=C2=A0= 

... it is =
RECOMMENDED that the first prefix using the label index is selected.=

=C2=A0=

In BGP there is no guarantee about ordered delivery of BGP prefi= xes.=C2=A0=C2=A0It may work such in some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. So= if we recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 and in= stall in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the data plane will = get quite severely messed up and even finding it during troubleshooting will be quite hard.=C2=A0=

=C2=A0=

Also as pointed out = already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same label across nodes acc= ording to=C2=A0draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segments-02. Now if we want to accomplish the same in BGP we would need to advertise di= fferent prefixes with the same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above paragraph = does prevents that. Note that adding and advertising the _same_ prefix from= different nodes will not work as BGP speakers may pick only one (best path) and use it for forwarding. IBGP= or EBGP multipath may not always be enabled/use same set.

=C2=A0

I don=E2=80=99t understand this concern= either. The text applies to difference prefixes, not an anycast where mult= iple BGP speakers with advertise the same <prefix, SID> tuple.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0=

The crux of the issu= e when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about prefixes, but their nex= t hops which unfortunately the draft does not even mention once.

=C2=A0=

Kind regards,=

Robert.=C2=A0=

=C2=A0=


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I maybe just don't 'know what formally this "WG approval" is :) Thx, R. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Susan Hares wrote: > Robert and Acee: > > > > If we do =E2=80=9Copen surgery=E2=80=9D, this document will need to go ba= ck through the > process (WG LC, IETF LC, and IESG Review). > > > > Sue Hares > > IDR co-chiar > > > > *From:* Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert Raszuk > *Sent:* Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:57 AM > *To:* Acee Lindem (acee) > *Cc:* idr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid > > > > Hi Acee, > > > > Since we are at the open surgery of this draft there is one more point > which did not got resolved during our offline discussion. Feedback from W= G > is welcome here. > > > > The draft RECOMMENDS the following procedure in case of a conflict: > > > > ... it is RECOMMENDED that the first prefix using the label index is sele= cted. > > > > In BGP there is no guarantee about ordered delivery of BGP prefixes. It > may work such in some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. S= o > if we recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 and > install in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the data plane > will get quite severely messed up and even finding it during > troubleshooting will be quite hard. > > > > Also as pointed out already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same > label across nodes according to draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segments-0= 2. > Now if we want to accomplish the same in BGP we would need to advertise > different prefixes with the same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above > paragraph does prevents that. Note that adding and advertising the _same_ > prefix from different nodes will not work as BGP speakers may pick only o= ne > (best path) and use it for forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not > always be enabled/use same set. > > > > The crux of the issue when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about > prefixes, but their next hops which unfortunately the draft does not even > mention once. > > > > Kind regards, > > Robert. > > > --f40304389254b5884a05657ea0e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Sue,

Well Acee said himself few email back:=C2=A0

"Dear Alvaro and IDR WG:

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There is one more change we=E2=80=99d like= to make to the draft that requires WG approval."


I maybe just don't = 9;know what formally this "WG approval" is :)


Thx,
R.





O= n Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

Robert and Acee:

=C2=A0=

If we do = =E2=80=9Copen surgery=E2=80=9D, this document will need to go back through = the process (WG LC, IETF LC, and IESG Review).

=C2=A0<= /p>

Sue Hares

IDR co-chiar<= u>

<= u>=C2=A0

From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Raszu= k
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:57 AM
To: Acee Lind= em (acee)
Cc: i= dr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Update= s to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid

=C2=A0

Hi Acee,<= u>

= =C2=A0

Since we are at = the open surgery of this draft there is one more point which did not got re= solved during our offline discussion. Feedback from WG is welcome here.<= /u>

=C2=A0

The draft RECOMMENDS the following procedu= re in case of a conflict:=C2=A0

=C2=A0

... it is RECOMMENDED that the first prefix using the lab=
el index is selected.

=C2= =A0

In BGP there is no guarantee about ordered delivery of BGP prefixes.= =C2=A0=C2=A0It may work such in some specific topologies but not in any ar= bitrary one. So if we recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different pref= ix on R2 and install in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the d= ata plane will get quite severely messed up and even finding it during trou= bleshooting will be quite hard.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

A= lso as pointed out already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same lab= el across nodes according to=C2=A0draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segme= nts-02. Now if we want to accomplish the same in BGP we would need to adver= tise different prefixes with the same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above par= agraph does prevents that. Note that adding and advertising the _same_ pref= ix from different nodes will not work as BGP speakers may pick only one (be= st path) and use it for forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not always b= e enabled/use same set.

=C2=A0

The crux of the= issue when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about prefixes, but thei= r next hops which unfortunately the draft does not even mention once.

=C2=A0<= /p>

Kind regards,

=

Robert.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

<= /div>

--f40304389254b5884a05657ea0e8-- From nobody Sun Feb 18 08:13:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9771312420B for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:13:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.946 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.946 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UdFo24l00NzL for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (50-245-122-97-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.245.122.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 721FD120047 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:13:35 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=166.176.251.46; From: "Susan Hares" To: "'Robert Raszuk'" Cc: "'idr wg'" References: <790D778D-19CF-4A2E-81DD-547C69E2E7BF@cisco.com> <637F72B8-914C-4EC4-AB96-5949E1F1FFA6@cisco.com> <004f01d3a8d0$b320c6d0$19625470$@ndzh.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:13:32 -0500 Message-ID: <009501d3a8d3$6c78ac90$456a05b0$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0096_01D3A8A9.83A51590" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQH2vgJkoJXlGPUUO0gV+75aIy0gwAG9f5BSAwKZCZACBipA/AKeqsgNAsAvBa8CUrApAQKNOjkyAjwiE0qiyiATMA== Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 16:13:37 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0096_01D3A8A9.83A51590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert:=20 =20 =20 As an AD, Alvaro may change to the document (see the history and his = comments). Due to the substantial nature of his comments during the AD = evaluation and IESG review, the WG must approve the changes. = Alvaro=E2=80=99s checking to see if the WG agrees with his changes. If = the IDR WG agrees with it, then document does go forward to the RFC = editor. If WG objects, then document will be return to the IDR for = =E2=80=9Csurgery=E2=80=9D, and then go through the process again (IDR WG = LC, IETF LC, IESG evaluation. =20 =20 Such is the power of the AD review and changes suggest to the authors. = =20 =20 I hope this process moment provides a cheerily chuckle in your day. =20 =20 Sue=20 =20 =20 From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 10:57 AM To: Susan Hares Cc: idr wg Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid =20 Hi Sue, =20 Well Acee said himself few email back:=20 =20 "Dear Alvaro and IDR WG: =20 There is one more change we=E2=80=99d like to make to the draft = that requires WG approval." =20 I maybe just don't 'know what formally this "WG approval" is :) =20 Thx, R. =20 =20 =20 =20 On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Susan Hares wrote: Robert and Acee: =20 If we do =E2=80=9Copen surgery=E2=80=9D, this document will need to go = back through the process (WG LC, IETF LC, and IESG Review).=20 =20 Sue Hares IDR co-chiar =20 From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:57 AM To: Acee Lindem (acee) Cc: idr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid =20 Hi Acee, =20 Since we are at the open surgery of this draft there is one more point = which did not got resolved during our offline discussion. Feedback from = WG is welcome here. =20 The draft RECOMMENDS the following procedure in case of a conflict:=20 =20 ... it is RECOMMENDED that the first prefix using the label index is = selected. =20 In BGP there is no guarantee about ordered delivery of BGP prefixes. It = may work such in some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. = So if we recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 = and install in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the data = plane will get quite severely messed up and even finding it during = troubleshooting will be quite hard.=20 =20 Also as pointed out already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same = label across nodes according to = draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segments-02. Now if we want to accomplish = the same in BGP we would need to advertise different prefixes with the = same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above paragraph does prevents that. = Note that adding and advertising the _same_ prefix from different nodes = will not work as BGP speakers may pick only one (best path) and use it = for forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not always be enabled/use = same set. =20 The crux of the issue when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about = prefixes, but their next hops which unfortunately the draft does not = even mention once. =20 Kind regards, Robert.=20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0096_01D3A8A9.83A51590 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Robert:

 

<process moment on>

As an AD, Alvaro may change to the document (see the history and his = comments).=C2=A0 Due to the substantial nature of his comments during = the AD evaluation and IESG review, the WG must approve the changes. = =C2=A0=C2=A0Alvaro=E2=80=99s checking to see if the WG agrees with his = changes.=C2=A0=C2=A0 If the IDR WG agrees with it, then document does go = forward to the RFC editor. =C2=A0=C2=A0If WG objects, =C2=A0then = document will be return to the IDR for =E2=80=9Csurgery=E2=80=9D, and = then go through the process again (IDR WG LC, IETF LC, IESG evaluation. = =C2=A0

 

Such is the power of the AD review and changes suggest to the = authors.=C2=A0 =C2=A0

<process moment off>

 

I hope this process moment provides a cheerily chuckle in your = day.=C2=A0 =C2=A0

 

Sue

 

 

From:= = Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert = Raszuk
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 10:57 AM
To: = Susan Hares
Cc: idr wg
Subject: Re: [Idr] Review = Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid

 

Hi = Sue,

 

Well Acee said himself few = email back: 

 

= "Dear Alvaro and IDR WG:

=  

=      There is one more change we=E2=80=99d like to = make to the draft that requires WG = approval."

=  

= I maybe just don't 'know what formally this "WG approval" is = :)

=  

= Thx,
R.

=  

=  

 

 

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> = wrote:

Robert and Acee:

 

If we do =E2=80=9Copen surgery=E2=80=9D, this document will need to = go back through the process (WG LC, IETF LC, and IESG Review). =

 

Sue Hares

IDR co-chiar

 

From:= = Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert = Raszuk
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:57 AM
To: = Acee Lindem (acee)
Cc: idr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Idr] Review = Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid

 <= /o:p>

Hi = Acee,

 

Since we are at the open = surgery of this draft there is one more point which did not got resolved = during our offline discussion. Feedback from WG is welcome = here.

 

The draft RECOMMENDS the = following procedure in case of a = conflict: 

 

... it is RECOMMENDED that the =
first prefix using the label index is =
selected.

 

In BGP there is no guarantee about ordered delivery of BGP = prefixes.  It may work such in = some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. So if we = recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 and = install in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the data plane = will get quite severely messed up and even finding it during = troubleshooting will be quite = hard. 

 

Also as pointed out already = MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same label across nodes = according to draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segments-02. Now if we = want to accomplish the same in BGP we would need to advertise different = prefixes with the same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above paragraph does = prevents that. Note that adding and advertising the _same_ prefix from = different nodes will not work as BGP speakers may pick only one (best = path) and use it for forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not always = be enabled/use same set.

 

The crux of the issue when = advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about prefixes, but their next = hops which unfortunately the draft does not even mention = once.

 

Kind = regards,

Robert. 

 

 

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<637F72B8-914C-4EC4-AB96-5949E1F1FFA6@cisco.com> <82BEF3B0-CB17-46CD-B75A-D7A0E71734A1@cisco.com> <2580CE53-A035-4C36-A7B0-62A995D59A0C@cisco.com> From: Robert Raszuk Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 18:34:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d1skeyulhkgNCcaLpomvGHN7C6A Message-ID: To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: "idr@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f40304389254867bab05657ffed7" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 17:34:53 -0000 --f40304389254867bab05657ffed7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Acee, > it is not broken since MPLS switching is stll hop-by-hop If NH1 and NH2 point in opposite directions you have permanent forwarding loop between hops when packet arrives with label S+base. Is it really not a prove of it being slightly broken ? Thx, R. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:27 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Robert, > > > > *From: * on behalf of Robert Raszuk > *Date: *Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 10:54 AM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *IDR List > *Subject: *Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid > > > > Hi Acee, > > > > We are talking about 3107 here. That is to construct MPLS forwarding data > plane. > > > > What goes into data plane is label and next hop - NLRI prefix really does > not matter here. The switching path is MPLS2MPLS not IP2MPLS in my point. > > > > So what is going to happen if someone verbatim follows what is written in > this paragraph is that two prefixes P1 & P2 with different next hops NH1 = & > NH2 and the same SID index S are present in BGP. This is the "conflict" > paragraph is trying to address. > > > > Now some router R1 will receive P1 first and some other router R2 will > receive P2 first. > > > > So what get's programmed into data plane is this: > > > > R1 - lookup label: S index +base with next hop: NH1 > > > > R2 - lookup label: S index + base with next hop NH2 > > > > As you can see creating a rule based on the order in which different > prefixes are received will result in rather messy data plane. > > > > There are two reasons that different prefixes would be advertised with th= e > same label index, misconfiguration or transition. This rule was posited t= o > decrease the number of changes necessary in the case of a transition. In > any case, while the data plane is messy, it is not broken since MPLS > switching is stll hop-by-hop using the RFC 8277 label. > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > Cheers, > > R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > > > *From: * on behalf of Robert Raszuk > *Date: *Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 5:57 AM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *IDR List > *Subject: *Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid > > > > Hi Acee, > > > > Since we are at the open surgery of this draft there is one more point > which did not got resolved during our offline discussion. Feedback from W= G > is welcome here. > > > > The draft RECOMMENDS the following procedure in case of a conflict: > > > > ... it is RECOMMENDED that the first prefix using the label index is sele= cted. > > > > In BGP there is no guarantee about ordered delivery of BGP prefixes. It > may work such in some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. S= o > if we recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 and > install in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the data plane > will get quite severely messed up and even finding it during > troubleshooting will be quite hard. > > > > Also as pointed out already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same > label across nodes according to draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segments-0= 2. > Now if we want to accomplish the same in BGP we would need to advertise > different prefixes with the same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above > paragraph does prevents that. Note that adding and advertising the _same_ > prefix from different nodes will not work as BGP speakers may pick only o= ne > (best path) and use it for forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not > always be enabled/use same set. > > > > I don=E2=80=99t understand this concern either. The text applies to diffe= rence > prefixes, not an anycast where multiple BGP speakers with advertise the > same tuple. > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > The crux of the issue when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about > prefixes, but their next hops which unfortunately the draft does not even > mention once. > > > > Kind regards, > > Robert. > > > > > --f40304389254867bab05657ffed7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Acee,=C2=A0
>=C2=A0=C2=A0it is not broken si= nce MPLS switching is stll hop-by-hop

If NH1 and NH2 = point in opposite directions you have permanent forwarding loop between hop= s when packet arrives with label S+base. Is it really not a prove of it bei= ng slightly broken ?=C2=A0

Thx,
R.

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:27 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com= > wrote:

Hi Robert,

=C2=A0

From: <rraszuk@gmail.com> on behalf= of Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 10:54 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: IDR List <i= dr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=

We are talking about= 3107 here. That is to construct MPLS forwarding data plane.<= /span>

=C2=A0=

What goes into data = plane is label and next hop - NLRI prefix really does not matter here. The = switching path is MPLS2MPLS not IP2MPLS in my point.=C2=A0

=C2=A0=

So what is going to = happen if someone verbatim follows what is written in this paragraph is tha= t two prefixes P1 & P2 with different next hops NH1 & NH2 and the same SID index = S are present in BGP. This is the "conflict" paragraph is trying = to address.=C2=A0

=C2=A0=

Now some router R1 w= ill receive P1 first and some other router R2 will receive P2 first.=C2=A0<= u>

=C2=A0=

So what get's pr= ogrammed into data plane is this:=C2=A0

=C2=A0=

R1 - lookup label: S= index +base with next hop: NH1=C2=A0

=C2=A0=

R2 - lookup label: S= index + base with next hop NH2

=C2=A0=

As you can see creat= ing a rule based on the order in which different prefixes are received will= result in rather messy data plane.

=C2=A0

There are two reasons that different pr= efixes would be advertised with the same label index, misconfiguration or t= ransition. This rule was posited to decrease the number of changes necessar= y in the case of a transition. In any case, while the data plane is messy, i= t is not broken since MPLS switching is stll hop-by-hop using the RFC 8277 = label.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0=

Cheers,

R.

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0

On Sun, Feb 18, 201= 8 at 1:38 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Robert,

=C2=A0

From: <rraszuk@gmail.com= > on behalf of Robert Raszuk <robert@ras= zuk.net>
Date: Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 5:57 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: IDR List <idr@ietf.org>=
Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Since we are at the open surgery of this draft there is one more point= which did not got resolved during our offline discussion. Feedback from WG= is welcome here.

=C2=A0

The draft RECOMMENDS the following procedure in case of a conflict:=C2= =A0

=C2=A0

... it is=
 RECOMMENDED that the first prefix using the label index is selected.

=C2=A0

In BGP there is no guarantee about orde= red delivery of BGP prefixes.=C2=A0=C2=A0It may work such in some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. So= if we recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 and in= stall in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the data plane will = get quite severely messed up and even finding it during troubleshooting will be quite hard.=C2=A0=

=C2=A0

Also as pointed out already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the sa= me label across nodes according to=C2=A0draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast= -segments-02. Now if we want to accomplish the same in BGP we would need to advertise differ= ent prefixes with the same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above paragraph does= prevents that. Note that adding and advertising the _same_ prefix from dif= ferent nodes will not work as BGP speakers may pick only one (best path) and use it for forwarding. IBGP or = EBGP multipath may not always be enabled/use same set.=

=C2=A0

I don=E2=80=99t understand this concern either. The text applies to d= ifference prefixes, not an anycast where multiple BGP speakers with adverti= se the same <prefix, SID> tuple.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0

The crux of the issue when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much abou= t prefixes, but their next hops which unfortunately the draft does not even= mention once.

=C2=A0

Kind regards,

Robert.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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One is about "first prefix selection" and let's keep it separate. As far as anycast point I was talking about anycast SID/index not anycast prefix. Yes for IP anycast prefix must be the same across nodes. But for SR data plane I don't see this as such strong requirement. Imagine R1 and R2 advertsing P1 and P2 with SID S. If you force that P1 & P2 must be the same you must enable multipath on all the nodes to install S with both next hops into dataplane. Contrary if you allow same SID to be installed with different next hops when it comes with different prefixes you don't have to worry about multipath being enabled anywhere :). After all it should be up to operator to decide how he wants to advertise his MPLS indexes. Remember for mpls2mpls date plane what prefixes are advertised as part of NLRI does not really matter ... Anyhow I have a feeling that this discussion belongs to SPRING not to IDR so let's move it there or take it offline. Cheers, R. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 1:16 PM, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) wrote: > Hi Robert, > > > > I do hope this is not an open surgery of the draft J > > > > Regarding Anycast prefixes, my understanding was that this, by definition= , > means the same prefix being multi-home and originated by more than one > routers. I did not follow anycast with different prefixes. > > > > Also, the handling of anycast involves either of the following: > > 1) Pointing to the =E2=80=9Cclosest=E2=80=9D (best on whatever the de= cision process > of the protocol involved) originator of the prefix, OR > > 2) Doing load-balancing between the multiple originators (when this > is possibled/desired). > > > > So I am not sure I understood the relationship of anycast to the conflict= . > > > > Thanks, > > Ketan > > > > *From:* Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert Raszuk > *Sent:* 18 February 2018 16:27 > *To:* Acee Lindem (acee) > *Cc:* idr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid > > > > Hi Acee, > > > > Since we are at the open surgery of this draft there is one more point > which did not got resolved during our offline discussion. Feedback from W= G > is welcome here. > > > > The draft RECOMMENDS the following procedure in case of a conflict: > > > > ... it is RECOMMENDED that the first prefix using the label index is sele= cted. > > > > In BGP there is no guarantee about ordered delivery of BGP prefixes. It > may work such in some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. S= o > if we recommend to pick one prefix on R1 and different prefix on R2 and > install in forwarding the same SID for those I am afraid the data plane > will get quite severely messed up and even finding it during > troubleshooting will be quite hard. > > > > Also as pointed out already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the same > label across nodes according to draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast-segments-0= 2. > Now if we want to accomplish the same in BGP we would need to advertise > different prefixes with the same SID (in MPLS-SR index). the above > paragraph does prevents that. Note that adding and advertising the _same_ > prefix from different nodes will not work as BGP speakers may pick only o= ne > (best path) and use it for forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not > always be enabled/use same set. > > > > The crux of the issue when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much about > prefixes, but their next hops which unfortunately the draft does not even > mention once. > > > > Kind regards, > > Robert. > > > --089e082f8844ec579005657ffef7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ketan,

<= /div>
Sorry for mixing two different and independent comm= ents together in my msg to Acee. One is about "first prefix selection&= quot; and let's keep it separate.=C2=A0

As far as anycast point I was talking about anycast S= ID/index not anycast prefix. Yes for IP anycast prefix must be the same acr= oss nodes. But for SR data plane I don't see this as such strong requir= ement.=C2=A0

Imagine R= 1 and R2 advertsing P1 and P2 with SID S. If you force that P1 & P2 mus= t be the same you must enable multipath on all the nodes to install S with = both next hops into dataplane.=C2=A0

Contrary if you allow same SID to be installed with differen= t next hops when it comes with different prefixes you don't have to wor= ry about multipath being enabled anywhere :). After all it should be up to = operator to decide how he wants to advertise his MPLS indexes.=C2=A0
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:small">
Remember for mpls2mpls date = plane what prefixes are advertised as part of NLRI does not really matter .= ..

Anyhow I have a fee= ling that this discussion belongs to SPRING not to IDR so let's move it= there or take it offline.=C2=A0

Cheers,
R.


On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 1:1= 6 PM, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <ketant@cisco.com> wrote:
=

Hi Robert,

=C2=A0

I do hope this is not an open surgery= of the draft J

=C2=A0

Regarding Anycast prefixes, my unders= tanding was that this, by definition, means the same prefix being multi-hom= e and originated by more than one routers. I did not follow anycast with different prefixes.

=C2=A0

Also, the handling of anycast involve= s either of the following:

1)=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 Pointing to the =E2=80=9Cclosest= =E2=80=9D (best on whatever the decision process of the protocol involved) = originator of the prefix, OR

2)=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 Doing load-balancing between the= multiple originators (when this is possibled/desired).

=C2=A0

So I am not sure I understood the rel= ationship of anycast to the conflict.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Ketan

=C2=A0

From: = Idr [mailto:idr-b= ounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk
Sent: 18 February 2018 16:27
To: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: idr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Idr] Review Updates to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid

=C2=A0

Hi Acee,

=C2=A0

Since we are at the open surgery of this draft there is one more point= which did not got resolved during our offline discussion. Feedback from WG= is welcome here.

=C2=A0

The draft RECOMMENDS the following procedure in case of a conflict:=C2= =A0

=C2=A0

... it is RECOMMENDED that the fi=
rst prefix using the label index is selected.

=C2=A0

In BGP there is no guarantee about orde= red delivery of BGP prefixes.=C2=A0=C2=A0It may work such in some specific topologies but not in any arbitrary one. So if we recommend to pick one prefix on R1 = and different prefix on R2 and install in forwarding the same SID for those= I am afraid the data plane will get quite severely messed up and even find= ing it during troubleshooting will be quite hard.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Also as pointed out already MPLS anycast SID may on purpose use the sa= me label across nodes according to=C2=A0draft-ietf-spring-mpls-anycast= -segments-02. Now if we want to accomplish the same in BGP we would need to advertise different prefixes with the same SID (in MPLS-S= R index). the above paragraph does prevents that. Note that adding and adve= rtising the _same_ prefix from different nodes will not work as BGP speaker= s may pick only one (best path) and use it for forwarding. IBGP or EBGP multipath may not always be enable= d/use same set.

=C2=A0

The crux of the issue when advertising SIDs in BGP is not so much abou= t prefixes, but their next hops which unfortunately the draft does not even= mention once.

=C2=A0

Kind regards,

Robert.=C2=A0

=C2=A0


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There is one more change we=E2=80=99d like to make to the draft that requir= es WG approval. One revelation during the review process for this draft is that the SRv6 use case as currently documented isn=E2=80=99t really that compell= ing and there are some details that are unspecified. Other than validation, the IPv6 SID TLV hasn=E2=80=99t been implemented. Consequently, we=E2=80=99d li= ke to remove the IPv6 SID TLV and SRv6 dataplane specification from the draft. Are there any objections (other than the obvious one that it is very late to be making this change)? Here are a list of implementations and none have implemented the IPv6 SID: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid%20impleme= ntations Note that the code point for the IPv6 SID would be deprecated since validation has been implemented in several implementations. If there are no objections, I could make this change next week and we could allow for an additional week for review. This is a significant change! Thanks for specifically pointing out the lack support in the implementations for the IPv6 SID. Please consider adding an rfc7942-style section to the document. While I don=E2=80=99t have a specific objection to you simplifying the docu= ment, it is a decision that shouldn=E2=80=99t be made *after* the IESG has approved = the publication of the document. OTOH, better late than never! idr-chairs: I am returning the document to the WG for discussion and update. If the WG reaches consensus on the proposed changes, I want to make sure that it is done with the understanding that the related IPv6 work will be done later. IOW, the result should not be that the IPv6 work is abandoned =E2=80=94 I am sure that is not the intent. Note that we don=E2= =80=99t need to discuss or adopt a specific alternative before processing this document. Thanks! 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Acee:

Hi!

There is one more chan= ge we=E2=80=99d like to make to the draft that requires WG approval. One re= velation during the review process for this draft is that the SRv6 use case= as currently documented isn=E2=80=99t really that compelling and there are= some details that are unspecified. Other than validation, the IPv6 SID TLV= hasn=E2=80=99t been implemented. Consequently, we=E2=80=99d like to remove= the IPv6 SID TLV and SRv6 dataplane specification from the draft. Are ther= e any objections (other than the obvious one that it is very late to be mak= ing this change)?=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=

Here are a = list of implementations and none have implemented the IPv6 SID:

https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/dra= ft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid%20implementations

=C2=A0

Note that the code point for the IPv6 SID w= ould be deprecated since validation has been implemented in several impleme= ntations. =C2=A0

=C2=A0

= If there are no objections, I could make this change next week and we could= allow for an additional week for review.
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This is a significant change!= =C2=A0 Thanks for specifically pointing out the lack support in the impleme= ntations for the IPv6 SID.=C2=A0 Please consider adding an rfc7942-style se= ction to the document.

While I don=E2=80=99t have a specific objection to you simplifying t= he document, it is a decision that shouldn=E2=80=99t be made *after* the IE= SG has approved the publication of the document.=C2=A0 OTOH, better late th= an never!

idr-chai= rs: =C2=A0I am returning the document to the WG for discussion and update.= =C2=A0 If the WG reaches consensus on the proposed changes, I want to make = sure that it is done with the understanding that the related IPv6 work will= be done later.=C2=A0 IOW, the result should not be that the IPv6 work is a= bandoned =E2=80=94 I am sure that is not the intent.=C2=A0 Note that we don= =E2=80=99t need to discuss or adopt a specific alternative before processin= g this document.

T= hanks!

Alvaro.
--001a113d74ea1eb7170565a951ca-- From nobody Tue Feb 20 20:38:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59BB129C6B; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:38:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.72.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151918788277.9687.12089741353756921773@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:38:02 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-17.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 04:38:03 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. Title : Segment Routing Prefix SID extensions for BGP Authors : Stefano Previdi Clarence Filsfils Acee Lindem Arjun Sreekantiah Hannes Gredler Filename : draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-17.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2018-02-20 Abstract: The Segment Routing (SR) architecture allows a node to steer a packet flow through any topological path and service chain by leveraging source routing. The ingress node prepends an SR header to a packet containing a set of segment identifiers (SID). Each SID represents a topological or a service-based instruction. Per-flow state is maintained only on the ingress node of the SR domain. This document defines an optional, transitive BGP attribute for announcing BGP Prefix Segment Identifiers (BGP Prefix-SID) information. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-17 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-17 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-17 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 06:52:05 -0000 --f403045f525e3196760565b35de4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Christoph, The following is given in the RFC. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | e | a | len | 0 | 0 |not| m | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ not - NOT bit. If set, logical negation of operation. m - Match bit. If set, this is a bitwise match operation defined as "(data & value) =3D=3D value"; if unset, (data & value) evaluates to TRUE if any of the bits in the value mask are set in the data. I will try to use all the combinations of 'not' and 'm' bits. Please let me know if the following my understanding is correct. I will try to use the mask with SYN, ACK bits of TCP header for this. [CWR ECE URG ACK PSH RST SYN FIN] mask =3D 0x12 1. not-0, m-0 (data & mask) !=3D 0 i.e. either SYN or ACK bits should have been set in TCP header. 2. not-0, m-1 (data & mask) =3D=3D mask i.e. SYN and ACK bits both sho= uld be set in TCP header. 3. not-1,m-0 (data & mask) =3D=3D 0 i.e. both SYN and ACK bits sho= uld not be set in TCP header. 4. not-1, m-1 (data & mask) !=3D mask i.e. at least one of SYN or ACK bits should not be set in TCP header. Thanks, Pavana. On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 2:35 PM, PVLR Pavana Murthy wrote: > Hi Christoph, > Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. That answers my question > completely :-). > > > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Christoph Loibl wrote: > >> Hi Pavana, >> >> You can rather easily test the behaviour when you feed your case into th= e >> python function: >> >> def main(): >> fs1 =3D FS_nlri(components=3D[ >> FS_component(component_type=3DIP_DESTINATION, >> value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24')), >> FS_component(component_type=3D4, value=3Dbytearray([0x01, 0x46, = 0x81, >> 0x50])) >> ]) >> >> fs2 =3D FS_nlri(components=3D[ >> FS_component(component_type=3DIP_DESTINATION, >> value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24')), >> FS_component(component_type=3D4, value=3Dbytearray([0x03, 0x5a, = 0xc5, >> 0x6e])) >> ]) >> print(flow_rule_cmp(fs1, fs2)) >> >> What happens is (I refer to line numbers of the code in the github repo >> https://github.com/stoffi92/flowspec-cmp/blob/master/flow_cmp.py : >> >> *) The IP components are compared and as you mentioned: no decision can >> be made since the ip components are equal. (we reach line 74 for the equ= al >> ip components and continue with the next iteration) >> >> *) The second component _types_ are equal but not IP (we end up in the >> branch in line 80 since the components are type=3D4 and not 1 or 2) >> >> *) The length of the second components is compared and equal, so we >> continue in line 82 >> >> ** See below: this is basically where the compare that you asked for >> happens ** >> >> *) Now we come to the point where we compare the string of bytes one by >> one. As long as they are equal. (this is basically what memcmp does - th= is >> is not very explicit in the python code, since it is done by the <, > >> operators for the bytearray implicitly) >> >> In your case what it does is, that it compares 0x01 to 0x03 and figures >> out that 0x01 is the lower value so it takes the branch in line 84 and >> returns with A_HAS_PRECEDENCE from line 85 (if both of your components >> would start with 0x01 it would continue to the second byte and so on). >> >> Your first FS nlri has precedence because of the =E2=80=9Clower=E2=80=9D= value. >> >> 01 *18 58 58 58* 04 *01 46 81 50 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 >>> Port: 70 | 80* >>> >>> >> Discamer: I assumed that you encoded the components themselfs correctly >> (the 01 46 81 50 and 03 5a c5 6e) >> >> Does this answer your question? >> >> Christoph >> >> -- >> Christoph Loibl >> c@tix.at | CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID: 0x4B2C0055 | http://www.nextlayer.at >> >> >> >> On 15.02.2018, at 05:08, PVLR Pavana Murthy wrote: >> >> Hi Christoph, >> Even in the RFC5575bis, the following is given for comparing >> non-prefix type components. >> >> else: >> # assuming comp_a.value, comp_b.value of type bytearray >> if len(comp_a.value) =3D=3D len(comp_b.value): >> if comp_a.value > comp_b.value: >> return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE >> if comp_a.value < comp_b.value: >> return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE >> # components equal -> continue with next component >> else: >> common =3D min(len(comp_a.value), len(comp_b.value)) >> if comp_a.value[:common] > comp_b.value[:common]: >> return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE >> elif comp_a.value[:common] < comp_b.value[:common]: >> return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE >> # the first common bytes match >> elif len(comp_a.value) > len(comp_b.value): >> return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE >> else: >> return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE >> >> >> *What is comp_a.value here ? Is it the binary sting of [op, value]/[op,= bitmask] or only value/bitmask ?* >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Pavana. >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Christoph Loibl wrote: >> >>> Hi Pavana, >>> >>> Did you have a look into the actual code (thanks to Job=E2=80=99s comme= nt) that >>> is contained in the RFC5575bis draft which should be identical from the >>> behaviour: >>> >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-06 >>> >>> Christoph >>> >>> -- >>> Christoph Loibl >>> c@tix.at | CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID: 0x4B2C0055 | http://www.nextlayer.at >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12.02.2018, at 12:03, PVLR Pavana Murthy wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> In the RFC 5575, the following is given for the comparing the Flowspe= c >>> components of types other then prefix. >>> >>> } else { >>> common =3D >>> MIN(component_length(comp1), component_length(comp2)); >>> cmp =3D memcmp(data(comp1), data(comp2), common); >>> // not equal, lowest value has precedence >>> // equal, longest string has precedence >>> } >>> >>> >>> Here, what does *data* refrer to ? >>> >>> Is it the binary form of 1) [op, value]> / [op, bitmask] or 2) Just >>> [value] / [bitmask] >>> >>> eg: >>> >>> >>> 1) 01 *18 58 58 58* 04 *01 46 81 50 ----> Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24 >>> Port: 70 | 80* >>> >>> 2) 01* 18 58 58 58 *04* 03 5a c5 6e ----> Dst.Prefix: >>> 88.88.88.0/24 Port: >=3D90 & <=3D 110* >>> >>> *In the above FS rules, Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to >>> compare the data of next type 4 (Port). * >>> *So do we need to do memcmp of (01 46 81 50) and (03 5a c5 6e) ?* >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Pavana*.* >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Idr mailing list >>> Idr@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >>> >>> >>> >> >> > --f403045f525e3196760565b35de4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
= Hi Christoph,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The foll= owing is given in the RFC.=C2=A0

=C2=A0 0=C2=A0 =C2=A01=C2=A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 =C2=A03=C2=A0= =C2=A04=C2=A0 =C2=A05=C2=A0 =C2=A06=C2=A0 =C2=A07
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+<= /div>
| e | a |=C2=A0 =C2=A0len | 0= | 0 |not| m |
+---+--= -+---+---+---+---+---+---+

not - NOT bit. If set, logical negation of operat= ion.

=
m - Match bit. If set, this is a b= itwise match operation
defined as "(data & value) =3D=3D value"; if unset, (data &a= mp;
value) evaluates t= o TRUE if any of the bits in the value
mask are set in the data.

=
I will try to use all the combinations of 'not' and '= ;m' bits. Please let me know if the following my understanding is corre= ct.=C2=A0

I will try to use the mask with SYN, ACK bi= ts of TCP header for this.
[C= WR ECE URG ACK PSH RST SYN FIN]
mask =3D 0x12

  1. not-0, m-0=C2=A0 (data = & mask) !=3D 0 i.e. either SYN or ACK bits should have been set in TCP = header.
  2. not-0, m-1=C2=A0 = (data & mask)=C2=A0 =3D=3D mask i.e. SYN and ACK bits both should be se= t in TCP header.
  3. not-1,m-= 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0(data & mask) =3D=3D 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 i.e. both SYN and=C2= =A0 ACK bits should not=C2=A0 be set in TCP header.
  4. not-1, m-1=C2=A0 (data & mask) !=3D mask i.e= . at least one of=C2=A0 SYN or ACK bits should not be set in TCP header.

Thanks= ,
Pavana.
=C2=A0


On Thu, Feb 1= 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, PVLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wro= te:
Hi Christoph,
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. That answers my que= stion completely :-).



On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Christoph Loibl <c@tix.at> wrote:
Hi Pavana,

You can ra= ther easily test the behaviour when you feed your case into the python func= tion:

def m= ain():
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 fs1= =3D FS_nlri(components=3D[
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FS_component(component_type=3DIP_DESTI= NATION, value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24')),
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FS_component(com= ponent_type=3D4, value=3Dbytearray([0x01, 0x46, 0x81, 0x50]))
<= div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ])

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 fs2 =3D FS_nlri(components=3D[
<= font face=3D"Courier" size=3D"1">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FS_component(c= omponent_type=3DIP_DESTINATION, value=3Dipaddress.ip_network('88.88.88.0/24'= ;)),
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FS_component(component_type=3D4, value=3Dbytearray([0x03, 0x5= a, 0xc5, 0x6e]))
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 ])
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = print(flow_rule_cmp(fs1, fs2))

What happens= is (I refer to line numbers of the code in the github repo

*) The IP componen= ts are compared and as you mentioned: no decision can be made since the ip = components are equal. (we reach line 74 for the equal ip components and con= tinue with the next iteration)

*) The second compo= nent _types_ are equal but not IP (we end up in the branch in line 80 since= the components are type=3D4 and not 1 or 2)

*) Th= e length of the second components is compared and equal, so we continue in = line 82

** See below: this is basically where the = compare that you asked for happens **

*) Now we co= me to the point where we compare the string of bytes one by one. As long as= they are equal. (this is basically what memcmp does - this is not very exp= licit in the python code, since it is done by the <, > operators for = the bytearray implicitly)

In your case what it doe= s is, that it compares 0x01 to 0x03 and figures out that 0x01 is the lower = value so it takes the branch in line 84 and returns with A_HAS_PRECEDENCE f= rom line 85 (if both of your components would start with 0x01 it would cont= inue to the second byte and so on).

Your first FS = nlri has precedence because of the =E2=80=9Clower=E2=80=9D value.

=
=
01=C2=A018 58 58 58=C2=A004=C2=A001 46 81 50=C2=A0 = ----> Dst.Prefix:=C2=A088.88.88.0/24=C2=A0 Port: 70 | 80

Discamer: I assumed that you encoded the components themselfs= correctly (the 01 46 81 50 and 03 5a c5 6e)

Does = this answer your question?

Christoph

=
--=C2=A0
Christoph Loibl
c@tix.at=C2=A0| CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID:=C2=A00x4B2C00= 55 |=C2=A0http://www.= nextlayer.at



On 15.02.2018, at 05:08, PVLR Pavana Murthy <pvlrpm@gmail.com> wrote:<= /div>
Hi Christoph,
=C2=A0 Even in the=C2= =A0 RFC5575bis,=C2=A0=C2=A0the following is g= iven=C2=A0=C2=A0for comparing non-prefix type components.=C2=A0
<= br> 
 else:
               # assuming comp_a.value, comp_b.value of type bytearray
               if len(comp_a.value) =3D=3D len(comp_b.value):
                   if comp_a.value > comp_b.value:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   if comp_a.value < comp_b.value:
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   # components equal -> continue with next component
               else:
                   common =3D min(len(comp_a.value), len(comp_b.value))
                   if comp_a.value[:common] > comp_b.value[:common]:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   elif comp_a.value[:common] < comp_b.value[:common]:
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   # the first common bytes match
                   elif len(comp_a.value) > len(comp_b.value):
                       return A_HAS_PRECEDENCE
                   else:
                       return B_HAS_PRECEDENCE

What is  comp_a.value her=
e ? Is it the binary sting of [op, value]/[op,bitmask] or only value/bitmas=
k ?

=

Thanks,
Pavana.

On Th= u, Feb 15, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Christoph Loibl <c@tix.at> wrote:
Hi Pavana,

Did you have a look into t= he actual code (thanks to Job=E2=80=99s comment) that is contained in the R= FC5575bis draft which should be identical from the behaviour:

Christoph

= --=C2=A0
Christoph Loibl
c@tix.at=C2=A0| CL8-RIPE | PGP-Key-ID:=C2=A00x4B2C0055 |=C2=A0http://www.nextlayer.at=



On 12.02.2018, at 12:03, PVLR Pavana Murthy = <pvlrpm@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

= Hello,
=C2=A0 In the RFC 5575, the following is given for the comparing= the Flowspec components of types other then prefix.

} else {
common =3D
MIN(component_length(comp1), component_length(comp2));
cmp =3D memcmp(data(comp1), data= (comp2), common);
// not equal, lowest value has precedence
// equal, longest string has precedence
}=C2=A0
<= br>

Here, what does data refrer to=C2=A0 ?<= /div>

Is it the binary form of 1) [op, value]> / [op,= bitmask]=C2=A0 or 2) Just [value] / [bitmask]

eg:=


<= b>=C2=A0
2)=C2=A0 01 18 58 58 58 04 03 5a c5 6e=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 ---->=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dst.Prefix: 88.88.88.0/24=C2=A0 Port:=C2=A0>=3D90 & <=3D 110

In the above FS rules,=C2=A0 Dst. Prefix is same in both, so we need to= compare the data of next type 4 (Port).=C2=A0
So do we ne= ed to do memcmp of=C2=A0=C2=A0(01 46 81 50) and=C2=A0=C2=A0(03 5a c5 6e) ?

Thanks,
Pavana.



=
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The changes are removal of the IPv6 SID TLV/SRv6 data plane and error/conflict handling modifications to section 4. The reasons for removing the IPv6 SID TLV were explained in https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/3YE8hDCj0ky0NPFoLrTHV2AAEJ8. The error/conflict handling changes were made based on fruitful review comments and discussions very late in the process. Just to refresh your memory, this draft has return from the IESG to the WG. It is the intent of the WG chairs if IDR WG reaches consensus on this version to immediately send it back the IESG for publication. Susan Hares ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01D3ACD1.78EB8680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

This = begins a 2 week IDR WG last call on changes to the BGP Prefix SID draft. =

 =

The = changes are removal of the IPv6 SID TLV/SRv6 data plane and = error/conflict handling modifications to section 4. The reasons for = removing the IPv6 SID TLV were explained in https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/3YE8hDCj0ky0NPFoLrTHV2AAE= J8. The error/conflict handling changes were made based on = fruitful  review comments and discussions very late in the process. =

 =

Just to refresh your memory, this draft has return from the IESG to = the WG.  It is the intent of the WG chairs if IDR WG reaches = consensus on this version to immediately send it back the IESG for = publication.

 

Susan Hares

 

 

 =

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The reasons for = removing the IPv6 SID TLV were explained in = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/3YE8hDCj0ky0NPFoLrTHV2AAEJ8. = The error/conflict handling changes were made based on fruitful review = comments and discussions very late in the process.=20 > =20 > Just to refresh your memory, this draft has return from the IESG to = the WG. 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IDR will meet on Monday (March 1= 9th) from 15:50 to 17:20. Please send any IDR agenda items you might have t= o me and CC the chairs. Please include the name of the person who will be p= resenting, and the estimate time you'll need (including Q/A). If you plan to make a presentation, please keep in mind the IDR tradition, = "no Internet Draft - no time slot". You should also plan to send your slide= s to me and CC the chairs no later than 24 hours prior to the IDR meeting, = though earlier is better. If we don't have your slides by the deadline, you= may lose your slot. Please number your slides for the benefit of remote at= tendees. By default your slides will be converted to PDF and presented from= the PDF. If you need to use any fancy builds or transitions, please make s= ure to arrange this with us in advance. Thanks. And potential presenters, please take a look at the checklist for presentin= g at IDR: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/idr/trac/wiki/Checklist%20for%20presenting%2= 0at%20an%20IDR%20meeting Best regards, Jie --_000_76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927982F7B03NKGEML515MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all,

 

The agenda of IETF 101 has been= published. IDR will meet on Monday (March 19th) from 15:50 to 17:20. Pleas= e send any IDR agenda items you might have to me and CC the chairs. Please = include the name of the person who will be presenting, and the estimate time you'll need (including Q/A).

 

If you plan to make a presentat= ion, please keep in mind the IDR tradition, "no Internet Draft - no ti= me slot". You should also plan to send your slides to me and CC the ch= airs no later than 24 hours prior to the IDR meeting, though earlier is better. If we don't have your slides by the deadline, yo= u may lose your slot. Please number your slides for the benefit of remote a= ttendees. By default your slides will be converted to PDF and presented fro= m the PDF. If you need to use any fancy builds or transitions, please make sure to arrange this with us in a= dvance. Thanks.

 

And potential presenters, pleas= e take a look at the checklist for presenting at IDR:

https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/idr/trac/wiki/Checklist%20for%20presen= ting%20at%20an%20IDR%20meeting

 

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--_000_76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927982F7B03NKGEML515MBXchi_-- From nobody Tue Feb 27 15:11:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4183C12E8E3; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 15:11:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: idr@ietf.org, aretana.ietf@gmail.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.73.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151977306626.5200.10382192258175352132.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 15:11:06 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] idr - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 101 X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 23:11:06 -0000 Dear Susan Hares, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. idr Session 1 (2:00:00) Monday, Afternoon Session II 1550-1720 Room Name: Buckingham size: 175 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Inter-Domain Routing Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Susan Hares Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 70 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: i2rs i2nsf grow trill netmod netconf dcrouting Second Priority: bess babel ospf isis People who must be present: Susan Hares John Scudder Alvaro Retana Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Wed Feb 28 07:41:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: idr@ietf.org Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15A912D948; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 07:41:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: idr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.73.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151983247868.5163.2543764523973087482@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 07:41:18 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-09.txt X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 15:41:19 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing WG of the IETF. Title : The BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute Authors : Eric C. Rosen Keyur Patel Gunter Van de Velde Filename : draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-09.txt Pages : 41 Date : 2018-02-28 Abstract: RFC 5512 defines a BGP Path Attribute known as the "Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute". This attribute allows one to specify a set of tunnels. For each such tunnel, the attribute can provide the information needed to create the tunnel and the corresponding encapsulation header. The attribute can also provide information that aids in choosing whether a particular packet is to be sent through a particular tunnel. RFC 5512 states that the attribute is only carried in BGP UPDATEs that have the "Encapsulation Subsequent Address Family (Encapsulation SAFI)". This document deprecates the Encapsulation SAFI (which has never been used in production), and specifies semantics for the attribute when it is carried in UPDATEs of certain other SAFIs. This document adds support for additional tunnel types, and allows a remote tunnel endpoint address to be specified for each tunnel. This document also provides support for specifying fields of any inner or outer encapsulations that may be used by a particular tunnel. This document obsoletes RFC 5512. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/