From idwg-public-request@semper.org Tue Apr 2 14:09:30 2002 Received: from www.opencard.org (www.opencard.org [195.212.119.145]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA28402 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by www.opencard.org (Postfix, from userid 503) id 9EDF634575; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:09:24 +0200 (CEST) Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: semper-idwg-public@opencard.org Sender: joey@SiliconDefense.com Message-Id: <3CAA0126.A7FBC214@SiliconDefense.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 11:06:14 -0800 From: Joe McAlerney X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: IDWG , Libidmef Developers Subject: Interesting discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: idwg-public@semper.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/508 X-Loop: idwg-public@semper.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: idwg-public-request@semper.org Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:09:24 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's probably worthwhile to post this for those of you not on the focus-ids list. There is an interesting discussion taking place that has branched into representing security events. There are a number of opinions about XML-based representations and IDMEF in general. It starts here. You should view the thread index for the remainder of the discussion. http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/96/264481 It is also discussed in this thread. http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/96/264967 Some very interesting points are brought up that bring both design and implementation challenges. -Joe M. -- Joe McAlerney Silicon Defense: IDS Solutions From idwg-public-request@semper.org Mon Apr 22 17:01:59 2002 Received: from www.opencard.org (www.opencard.org [195.212.119.145]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA13025 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by www.opencard.org (Postfix, from userid 503) id 295EA34656; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:02:14 +0200 (CEST) Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: semper-idwg-public@opencard.org Message-Id: <003c01c1ea41$1b8a3220$a002a8c0@Chizmadia> Reply-To: "David Chizmadia" From: "David Chizmadia" To: Subject: UML diagram of IDMEF? Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:03:04 -0400 Organization: Promia, Inc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: idwg-public@semper.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/509 X-Loop: idwg-public@semper.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: idwg-public-request@semper.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:02:14 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Is anyone aware of a complete IDMEF UML diagram in XMI, JPEG, GIF or other graphical format? If so, how would I go about getting a copy? Thanks, -DMC David Chizmadia Senior Software Security Architect Promia, Inc dchizmadia@promia.com From idwg-public-request@semper.org Tue Apr 23 23:01:10 2002 Received: from www.opencard.org (www.opencard.org [195.212.119.145]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA14248 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 23:01:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by www.opencard.org (Postfix, from userid 503) id 9FEF434639; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 05:01:18 +0200 (CEST) Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: semper-idwg-public@opencard.org Message-Id: <001a01c1eb3b$ed850480$1e02a8c0@Chizmadia> Reply-To: "David Chizmadia" From: "David Chizmadia" To: Subject: IDMEF Model in Powerpoint Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:58:21 -0400 Organization: Promia, Inc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1EB1A.5D7350C0" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: idwg-public@semper.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/510 X-Loop: idwg-public@semper.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: idwg-public-request@semper.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 05:01:18 +0200 (CEST) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1EB1A.5D7350C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, As a follow-on to my Monday morning message, no one had the IDMEF model captured in a graphical format - such as a UML tool that could export JPEG. A couple of other people are in the process of doing so. I needed the diagram by tomorrow, so after wasting a half day fighting with PoseidonCE, I decided that it might be easier to create a native Powerpoint version. I've attached a zipped copy of the result, since it is so small (10K). Enjoy. As an editorial note, in the process of going through the draft-06 to get the needed info, I noticed that the ASCII diagram of the Heartbeat class on page 28 (Section 5.1) is missing the AnalyzerTime element that is shown on page 36 (Section 5.2.3) and included in the DTD. 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<7K6GO.A.KgB.RiRz8@www.opencard.org> Resent-From: idwg-public@semper.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/511 X-Loop: idwg-public@semper.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: idwg-public-request@semper.org Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:55:29 +0200 (CEST) Hi David, List > As a follow-on to my Monday morning message, no one had the IDMEF > model captured in a graphical format - such as a UML tool that could My reaction might be a bit late, but I happen to have a graphical version of the IDMEF model. It is a high-level overview that shows all classes and the relations between them. It does not include the member attributes, although I do have a collection of MS Visio files that, taken together, should describe the complete model including member attributes. If anyone's interested, I could post the overview here on the list (zipped PNG, 70kb) and maybe send the collection of Visio files to David as a starting point for his complete diagram? Regards, Remco