From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Thu Aug 1 07:40:43 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA25855 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA21212 for ieprep-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA21135; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:41:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA21102 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA25781; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200208011140.HAA25781@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: ieprep@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 07:40:06 -0400 Subject: [Ieprep] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ieprep-reference-00.txt Sender: ieprep-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ieprep-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group X-BeenThere: ieprep@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group of the IETF. Title : Terms of Reference for an Emergency Telecommunications Service Author(s) : I. Brown Filename : draft-ietf-ieprep-reference-00.txt Pages : 7 Date : 31-Jul-02 An Emergency Telecommunications Service gives authorised emergency personnel a higher probability of successful communication under high network load conditions. This document explains the different terms and acronyms used in defining and implementing this service, and is intended to be used as a common basis for negotiations when emergency service providers are contracting with telecommunications operators to provide the service. It can also be used in procurement of and tendering for ETS provision. 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Temporally, I will take over as chair while looking for new chair(s), Allison will become the lead AD for the working group. I want to thank Fred profusely for all the work he as put into this topic over a number of years, without him the working group probably would not have gotten going and without his vision, would not be in as good a shape if it had. Scott _______________________________________________ Ieprep mailing list Ieprep@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Thu Aug 15 15:09:11 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA11471 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id PAA27771 for ieprep-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA27752; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA27713 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:09:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rbhub101.chamb.disa.mil (rbhub101.chamb.disa.mil [209.22.120.24]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA11457 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rbhub101.chamb.disa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:09:48 -0400 Message-ID: <7F18415E4D63CB45BB9B3A591F68D12D23A378@emshqs1.ncr.disa.mil> From: "Folts, Harold" To: "'Scott Bradner'" , ieprep@ietf.org Cc: mankin@psg.com Subject: RE: [Ieprep] change in chairs for ieprep Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:09:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: ieprep-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ieprep-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group X-BeenThere: ieprep@ietf.org Sorry to hear the sad nows. We will very much miss Fred's outstanding leadership, insight, and guidance in this important endeavor. I wish him the very best. Hal -----Original Message----- From: Scott Bradner [mailto:sob@harvard.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 2:59 PM To: ieprep@ietf.org Cc: mankin@psg.com Subject: [Ieprep] change in chairs for ieprep Due to unforeseen circumstances Fred has had to resign as chair of the ieprep working group. Temporally, I will take over as chair while looking for new chair(s), Allison will become the lead AD for the working group. I want to thank Fred profusely for all the work he as put into this topic over a number of years, without him the working group probably would not have gotten going and without his vision, would not be in as good a shape if it had. Scott _______________________________________________ Ieprep mailing list Ieprep@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep _______________________________________________ Ieprep mailing list Ieprep@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Thu Aug 15 15:17:12 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA11838 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id PAA28443 for ieprep-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA28376; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA28348 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc-msxproto2.kc.umkc.edu (kc-msxproto2.kc.umkc.edu [134.193.143.159]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA11793 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from KC-MAIL2.kc.umkc.edu ([134.193.143.162] RDNS failed) by kc-msxproto2.kc.umkc.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:17:51 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [Ieprep] change in chairs for ieprep Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:17:51 -0500 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Ieprep] change in chairs for ieprep Thread-Index: AcJEjusmlByn2zhmTXGMWdaZd5E0lgAAWy5A From: "Beard, Cory" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2002 19:17:51.0832 (UTC) FILETIME=[73304D80:01C24490] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by optimus.ietf.org id PAA28349 Sender: ieprep-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ieprep-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group X-BeenThere: ieprep@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks so much, Fred. All the best to you. Cory > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Bradner [mailto:sob@harvard.edu] > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 1:59 PM > To: ieprep@ietf.org > Cc: mankin@psg.com > Subject: [Ieprep] change in chairs for ieprep > > > Due to unforeseen circumstances Fred has had to resign as > chair of the ieprep working group. Temporally, I will take > over as chair while looking for new chair(s), Allison will > become the lead AD for the working group. > > I want to thank Fred profusely for all the work he as put > into this topic over a number of years, without him the > working group probably would not have gotten going and > without his vision, would not be in as good a shape if it had. > > Scott > > > _______________________________________________ > Ieprep mailing list > Ieprep@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep > _______________________________________________ Ieprep mailing list Ieprep@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Fri Aug 16 07:47:16 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA12174 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:47:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA27243 for ieprep-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA27205; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA27174 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA12154; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200208161146.HAA12154@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: ieprep@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:46:37 -0400 Subject: [Ieprep] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ieprep-sip-reqs-00.txt Sender: ieprep-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ieprep-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group X-BeenThere: ieprep@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for Resource Priority Mechanisms for the Session Initiation Protocol Author(s) : H. Schulzrinne Filename : draft-ietf-ieprep-sip-reqs-00.txt Pages : 13 Date : 15-Aug-02 This document summarizes requirements for prioritizing access to circuit-switched network, end system and proxy resources for emergency preparedness communications using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP). A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ieprep-sip-reqs-00.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-ieprep-sip-reqs-00.txt". 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20020815153520.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ieprep-sip-reqs-00.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ieprep-sip-reqs-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20020815153520.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- _______________________________________________ Ieprep mailing list Ieprep@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Tue Aug 20 10:38:31 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA15955 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA12809 for ieprep-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA12779; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:38:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA12747 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA15936 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7KEcbu19858 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:38:37 +0200 (MEST) Received: from mail-y.mchp.siemens.de (mail-y.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.203.56]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7KEcbF12901 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:38:37 +0200 (MEST) Received: from cs.columbia.edu (mhpa6v8c [139.23.202.84]) by mail-y.mchp.siemens.de with ESMTP id g7KEcacH001513 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:38:37 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3D625425.2070100@cs.columbia.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:37:25 -0400 From: Henning Schulzrinne Organization: Columbia University User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020721 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ieprep@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Ieprep] draft-ietf-ieprep-sip-reqs-00.txt Sender: ieprep-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ieprep-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group X-BeenThere: ieprep@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Draft draft-ietf-ieprep-sip-reqs-00.txt has appeared in the I-D archives. I would appreciate comments and feedback, so that the document, once agreed upon, can serve as input to SIP and SIPPING. Thanks. Henning _______________________________________________ Ieprep mailing list Ieprep@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Tue Aug 27 08:52:12 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA21516 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7RCrC307475 for ieprep-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:53:12 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7RCrCo07472 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:53:12 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA21499 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7RCpdo07373; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:51:39 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7RCoYo07333 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:50:34 -0400 Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA21409 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:49:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Mpierce1@aol.com Received: from Mpierce1@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id 7.42.2c6b356a (25914); Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42.2c6b356a.2a9ccf72@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Ieprep] draft-ietf-ieprep-sip-reqs-00.txt To: hgs@cs.columbia.edu, ieprep@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_42.2c6b356a.2a9ccf72_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 353 Sender: ieprep-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ieprep-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ieprep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:49:54 EDT --part1_42.2c6b356a.2a9ccf72_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comments on draft-ietf-ieprep-sip-reqs-00: 2. Instead of CN for the abbreviation, I would suggest SCN (Switched Circuit Network). 3. (End of page 4) Refers to "four resources" although text above just defined five. 4. End of section again refers to four resources (gateway, CN, IP network resources, and receiver). The text in Section 3 also defined SIP proxy resources. The meaning of the (x) in the table is not clear. For example, although it says that (x) means the resource is in the CN, the first row in the table which is the IP-only case has an (x). REQ-1 implies that the U.S. defense network priority scheme is different than Q.735. It is identical. NATO requirements (also five levels) are also the same. The British Government Telephone Preference Scheme (GTPS) is fundamentally different. It does not control call setup beyond simply determining who gets dial tone. I suggest this requirement should read: ----------------------------------------------------------- REQ-1: Not specific to one mechanism or country: The mechanism should not be specific to one country or particular priority mechanism. For example, there are currently several different priority schemes in widespread use: Q.735 with five levels, which is the same as the U.S. defense network and NATO; the United States GETS (Government Emergency Telecommunications Systems) scheme with a single implied higher priority; and the British Government Telephone Preference Scheme (GTPS) system, which provides three priority levels for receipt of dial tone. ----------------------------------------------------------- REQ-12 Need to make it clear that the "existing schemes" refers to the PSTN and the "future schemes" refers to the plan for IP. 7. The statement that priority mechanisms can be categorized by priority queue or preemption is a little restrictive. There are other mechanisms which don't fit in either of these two, such as alternate routing and exemption from traffic controls. Most of these additional ones could be categorized as making additional resources available to the priority calls. I would suggest something like: -------------------------------- Most priority mechanisms can be roughly categorized by whether they: - use a priority queue for resource attempts - make additional resources available - preempt existing resource users (e.g., calls.) The choice ... --------------------------------- SEC-9 (Confidentiality) should be separated somewhat from ETS. While it is true that many emergency calls would want confidentiality, many regular calls also do. Further, the lack of confidentiality would not be a reason for not allowing an ETS call to go through, as implied by the statement "must be protected". Since "intercept" is often understood to refer to "lawful intercept", this statement about "protected from intercept" should be changed to read "unlawful intercept". SEC-10 Same comment as for SEC-9. Mike Pierce Artel --part1_42.2c6b356a.2a9ccf72_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comments on draft-ietf-ieprep-sip-reqs-00:

2. Instead of CN for the abbreviation, I would suggest SCN (Switched Circuit Network).

3. (End of page 4)

Refers to "four resources" although text above just defined five.

4. End of section again refers to four resources (gateway, CN, IP network resources, and receiver). The text in Section 3 also defined SIP proxy resources.

The meaning of the (x) in the table is not clear. For example, although it says that (x) means the resource is in the CN, the first row in the table which is the IP-only case has an (x).

REQ-1 implies that the U.S. defense network priority scheme is different than Q.735. It is identical. NATO requirements (also five levels) are also the same.
The British Government Telephone Preference Scheme (GTPS) is fundamentally different. It does not control call setup beyond simply determining who gets dial tone.

I suggest this requirement should read:

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REQ-1: Not specific to one mechanism or country: The mechanism should not be specific to one country or particular priority mechanism. For example, there are currently several different priority schemes in widespread use: Q.735 with five levels, which is the same as the U.S. defense network and NATO; the United States GETS (Government Emergency Telecommunications Systems) scheme with a single implied higher priority; and the British Government Telephone Preference Scheme (GTPS) system, which provides three priority levels for receipt of dial tone.
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REQ-12 Need to make it clear that the "existing schemes" refers to the PSTN and the "future schemes" refers to the plan for IP.

7. The statement that priority mechanisms can be categorized by priority queue or preemption is a little restrictive. There are other mechanisms which don't fit in either of these two, such as alternate routing and exemption from traffic controls. Most of these additional ones could be categorized as making additional resources available to the priority calls. I would suggest something like:

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Most priority mechanisms can be roughly categorized by whether they:
- use a priority queue for resource attempts
- make additional resources available
- preempt existing resource users (e.g., calls.)
The choice ...
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SEC-9 (Confidentiality) should be separated somewhat from ETS. While it is true that many emergency calls would want confidentiality, many regular calls also do. Further, the lack of confidentiality would not be a reason for not allowing an ETS call to go through, as implied by the statement "must be protected".
Since "intercept" is often understood to refer to "lawful intercept", this statement about "protected from intercept" should be changed to read "unlawful intercept".

SEC-10 Same comment as for SEC-9.

Mike Pierce
Artel

--part1_42.2c6b356a.2a9ccf72_boundary-- _______________________________________________ Ieprep mailing list Ieprep@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Tue Aug 27 17:07:17 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA12770 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7RL8LF03669 for ieprep-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:08:21 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7RL8Lo03666 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:08:21 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA12752 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7RL6ro03003; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:06:53 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7RJGeo28144 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:16:40 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA06546 for <1timer>; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200208271844.OAA06546@ietf.org> From: Phil Roberts To: IETF WG Participants: ; Subject: [Ieprep] Nomcom call for volunteers Sender: ieprep-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ieprep-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ieprep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:44:44 -0400 The members of the IESG and IAB and the IETF chair are selected by a nominations committee made up of volunteers from the IETF community. 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Please see (http://www.ietf.org/nomcom/msg19765.html) for information if you are interested in volunteering to be on the nominations committee. _______________________________________________ Ieprep mailing list Ieprep@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Tue Aug 27 22:11:15 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA20368 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7S2CMf19348 for ieprep-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:12:22 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7S2CMo19345 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:12:22 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA20359 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7S2BAo19292; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:11:10 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7S27Bo18959 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:07:11 -0400 Received: from wells.cisco.com (wells.cisco.com [171.71.177.223]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA20307 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JMPOLK-W2K (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by wells.cisco.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/CISCO.SERVER.1.2) with SMTP id TAA04839; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.20020827210345.042a3f10@localhost> X-Sender: jmpolk@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 To: Fred Baker , ieprep@ietf.org From: "James M. Polk" Subject: Re: [Ieprep] minutes In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20020724122725.00aa49a8@mira-sjcm-4.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: ieprep-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ieprep-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ieprep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:06:26 -0500 Fred I believe I've missed this subsequent email with the minutes and link to the ppts given at the IEPREP meeting in Yokohama... although I suspect my mailer never receiving them is an option. Anyone have this that they can send me? Thanks At 12:28 PM 7/24/2002 -0700, Fred Baker wrote: >Before I post the minutes to minutes@ietf.org, I'd appreciate any comments >on them. > > ftp://ftpeng.cisco.com/fred/ieprep-july/ > > >_______________________________________________ >Ieprep mailing list >Ieprep@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep cheers, James ************************************* "People generally demand more respect for their own rights than they are willing to allow for others" _______________________________________________ Ieprep mailing list Ieprep@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed Aug 28 01:02:19 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA23999 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7S53RO26850 for ieprep-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:03:27 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7S53Ro26847 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:03:27 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA23992 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:01:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7S52Ao26806; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:02:10 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7S51Do26769 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:01:13 -0400 Received: from web20804.mail.yahoo.com (web20804.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.193]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id AAA23954 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20020828050102.45252.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [134.193.6.40] by web20804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:01:02 PDT From: senthil ayyasamy Subject: Re: [Ieprep] minutes To: "James M. Polk" , Fred Baker , ieprep@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <4.1.20020827210345.042a3f10@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: ieprep-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ieprep-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ieprep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:01:02 -0700 (PDT) > I believe I've missed this subsequent email with the > minutes and link to > the ppts given at the IEPREP meeting in Yokohama... > although I suspect my > mailer never receiving them is an option. > > Anyone have this that they can send me? http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/02jul/sindex.html But the proceedings doesnt have the ieprep minutes for 54th IETF. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Polk" From: Fred Baker Subject: Re: [Ieprep] minutes Cc: ieprep@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <4.1.20020827210345.042a3f10@localhost> References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020724122725.00aa49a8@mira-sjcm-4.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: ieprep-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ieprep-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ieprep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Emergency Preparedness Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:08:16 -0700 At 09:06 PM 8/27/2002 -0500, James M. Polk wrote: >I believe I've missed this subsequent email with the minutes and link to >the ppts given at the IEPREP meeting in Yokohama... although I suspect my >mailer never receiving them is an option. They are posted at the "preliminary proceedings" page from www.ietf.org: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/02jul/index.html _______________________________________________ Ieprep mailing list Ieprep@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep