From ifmib-admin@ietf.org Mon Oct 9 05:39:16 2000 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA00096; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 05:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA22942; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 05:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA22920 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 05:30:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alcanet.it (ns.alcanet.it [194.243.74.35]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA00045 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 05:30:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it Received: from tlvsdy.vim.tlt.alcatel.it ([151.98.8.244]) by ns.alcanet.it with SMTP id <29705>; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:21:45 +0200 Received: from tlvhdk.netit.alcatel.it by tlvsdy.vim.tlt.alcatel.it (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA18885; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:24:32 +0200 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by tlvhdk.netit.alcatel.it (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA21138 for ifmib@ietf.org; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:26:14 +0200 (METDST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: ifmib@ietf.org CC: PietroVittorio.Grandi@netit.alcatel.it Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="openmail-part-00cded0f-00000001" Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:21:45 +0200 Subject: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address Sender: ifmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ifmib-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Interfaces MIB working group mailing list. X-BeenThere: ifmib@ietf.org --openmail-part-00cded0f-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="BDY.TXT" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everybody, we would like to ask a clarification about how it is possible to configure the IP address of an interface. Looking at the IP-MIB (RFC 2011), there is a table that associate to an IP address the corresponding interface's ifIndex. Unfortunately, this IP address is the index of the table, and the RowStatus is missing. In the IF-MIB there is no object where we can configure the interface's IP address. Do you have any hint on this topic? We apologize if this was not the correct mailing list, but we were not able to find any other. Please let us know if there is a more appropriate mailing list where to address this question. Thanks in advance, Pietro Grandi Italo Busi ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- \ / Busi Italo \ / ADM System Group \ / ALCATEL - TSD R&D \ / Via Trento, 30 \ / 20059 Vimercate (Mi) \ / ITALY \ / \ / E-mail: Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it \ / Tel. +39 039 686.7054 \ / Fax. +39 039 686.3590 \/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- --openmail-part-00cded0f-00000001-- _______________________________________________ ifmib mailing list ifmib@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib From ifmib-admin@ietf.org Mon Oct 9 21:17:11 2000 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id VAA12197; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA02272; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA02246 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cisco.com (ups.cisco.com [171.69.18.21]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id VAA12124 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kzm@localhost) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) id SAA11112; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:08:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith McCloghrie Message-Id: <200010100108.SAA11112@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address To: Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ifmib@ietf.org, PietroVittorio.Grandi@netit.alcatel.it In-Reply-To: from "Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it" at Oct 09, 2000 11:21:45 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ifmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ifmib-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Interfaces MIB working group mailing list. X-BeenThere: ifmib@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > we would like to ask a clarification about how it is possible to > configure the IP address of an interface. > > Looking at the IP-MIB (RFC 2011), there is a table that associate to an > IP address the corresponding interface's ifIndex. Unfortunately, this > IP address is the index of the table, and the RowStatus is missing. > > In the IF-MIB there is no object where we can configure the interface's > IP address. All information in the IF-MIB is below layer-3, and so it would not be appropriate to have IP-addresses in the IF-MIB. RFC 2011's ipAddrTable was originally defined in MIB-I (RFC 1066) and has always been read-only, and there's has never been any strong demand to provide a read-create capability. My theory for the lack of such demand is because configuring IP addresses via SNMP is problematic: if the system is a host which only has one IP address, then it can't be configured by SNMP (over UDP/IP) until it already has an IP address: a chicken-and-egg scenario; even if the system is a router, with an IP address on each interface, it would not be possible to configure all of its addresses via SNMP. Keith. _______________________________________________ ifmib mailing list ifmib@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib From ifmib-admin@ietf.org Tue Oct 10 05:32:24 2000 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA00138; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA12764; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA12743 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from itc-eml2.lannet.com (at.lannet.com [194.90.94.231]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA00047 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by itc-eml2.lannet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:22:44 +0200 Message-ID: <15F58915DF84D311AC7D0090279AA614233E2A@itc-eml2.lannet.com> From: Dan Romascanu To: "'Keith McCloghrie'" , Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it Cc: ifmib@ietf.org, PietroVittorio.Grandi@netit.alcatel.it Subject: RE: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:22:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: ifmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ifmib-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Interfaces MIB working group mailing list. X-BeenThere: ifmib@ietf.org Just for the seek of statistics ... can we have a 'show of hands' about how many vendors implement extensions in their proprietary MIBs, which allow for SNMP configuration of the IP addresses at least on part of the interfaces? One hand is already up. Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith McCloghrie [SMTP:kzm@cisco.com] > Sent: Tue October 10 2000 3:08 > To: Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it > Cc: ifmib@ietf.org; PietroVittorio.Grandi@netit.alcatel.it > Subject: Re: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address > > > we would like to ask a clarification about how it is possible to > > configure the IP address of an interface. > > > > Looking at the IP-MIB (RFC 2011), there is a table that associate to an > > IP address the corresponding interface's ifIndex. Unfortunately, this > > IP address is the index of the table, and the RowStatus is missing. > > > > In the IF-MIB there is no object where we can configure the interface's > > IP address. > > All information in the IF-MIB is below layer-3, and so it would not be > appropriate to have IP-addresses in the IF-MIB. > > RFC 2011's ipAddrTable was originally defined in MIB-I (RFC 1066) and > has always been read-only, and there's has never been any strong demand > to provide a read-create capability. My theory for the lack of such > demand is because configuring IP addresses via SNMP is problematic: if > the system is a host which only has one IP address, then it can't be > configured by SNMP (over UDP/IP) until it already has an IP address: a > chicken-and-egg scenario; even if the system is a router, with an IP > address on each interface, it would not be possible to configure all > of its addresses via SNMP. > > Keith. > > _______________________________________________ > ifmib mailing list > ifmib@ietf.org > http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib _______________________________________________ ifmib mailing list ifmib@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib From ifmib-admin@ietf.org Tue Oct 10 05:51:48 2000 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA00240; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA13067; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA13042 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:44:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radmail.rad.co.il (radmail.rad.co.il [207.232.32.10]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA00207 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ilana-z.radmail.rad.co.il ([192.114.26.219]) by radmail.rad.co.il (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54115U1200L1200S0V35) with ESMTP id il; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:47:36 +0300 Message-Id: <4.3.0.20001010113819.00ba8670@radmail.rad.co.il> X-Sender: ilana_s@radmail.rad.co.il X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:44:26 +0200 To: Dan Romascanu From: Ilana Schvetz Subject: RE: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address Cc: ifmib@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <15F58915DF84D311AC7D0090279AA614233E2A@itc-eml2.lannet.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: ifmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ifmib-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Interfaces MIB working group mailing list. X-BeenThere: ifmib@ietf.org Hi, I've added a host IP interface table, but the purpose was different: we enable the user to determine more than one host interface IP per device. Best Regards, At 11:22 10/10/2000 +0200, you wrote: >Just for the seek of statistics ... can we have a 'show of hands' about how >many vendors implement extensions in their proprietary MIBs, which allow for >SNMP configuration of the IP addresses at least on part of the interfaces? > >One hand is already up. > >Regards, > >Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Keith McCloghrie [SMTP:kzm@cisco.com] > > Sent: Tue October 10 2000 3:08 > > To: Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it > > Cc: ifmib@ietf.org; PietroVittorio.Grandi@netit.alcatel.it > > Subject: Re: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address > > > > > we would like to ask a clarification about how it is possible to > > > configure the IP address of an interface. > > > > > > Looking at the IP-MIB (RFC 2011), there is a table that associate to an > > > IP address the corresponding interface's ifIndex. Unfortunately, this > > > IP address is the index of the table, and the RowStatus is missing. > > > > > > In the IF-MIB there is no object where we can configure the interface's > > > IP address. > > > > All information in the IF-MIB is below layer-3, and so it would not be > > appropriate to have IP-addresses in the IF-MIB. > > > > RFC 2011's ipAddrTable was originally defined in MIB-I (RFC 1066) and > > has always been read-only, and there's has never been any strong demand > > to provide a read-create capability. My theory for the lack of such > > demand is because configuring IP addresses via SNMP is problematic: if > > the system is a host which only has one IP address, then it can't be > > configured by SNMP (over UDP/IP) until it already has an IP address: a > > chicken-and-egg scenario; even if the system is a router, with an IP > > address on each interface, it would not be possible to configure all > > of its addresses via SNMP. > > > > Keith. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ifmib mailing list > > ifmib@ietf.org > > http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib > >_______________________________________________ >ifmib mailing list >ifmib@ietf.org >http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib Ilana Schvetz RAD Data Communications LTD. Network Management System: SW Requirements Engineer E-mail: ilana_s@radmail.rad.co.il Tel: 972-3-765-7549 Fax: 972-3-644-0930 _______________________________________________ ifmib mailing list ifmib@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib From ifmib-admin@ietf.org Tue Oct 10 05:57:45 2000 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA00290; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA13156; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA13131 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:50:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alcanet.it (ns.alcanet.it [194.243.74.35]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA00232 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:50:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it Received: from tlvsdy.vim.tlt.alcatel.it ([151.98.8.244]) by ns.alcanet.it with SMTP id <29719>; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:42:15 +0200 Received: from tlvhdk.netit.alcatel.it by tlvsdy.vim.tlt.alcatel.it (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA27887; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:44:52 +0200 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by tlvhdk.netit.alcatel.it (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA21157; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:46:35 +0200 (METDST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Message-Id: Subject: RE: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it, dromasca@avaya.com, kzm@cisco.com CC: PietroVittorio.Grandi@netit.alcatel.it, ifmib@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="openmail-part-00d1055f-00000001" Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:42:15 +0200 Sender: ifmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ifmib-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Interfaces MIB working group mailing list. X-BeenThere: ifmib@ietf.org --openmail-part-00d1055f-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="BDY.TXT" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another hand is up. We are thinking of using it for network configuration and renumbering. Regards, =20 Pietro and Italo =2D----Original Message----- From: dromasca@avaya.com [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] Sent: marted=EC 10 ottobre 2000 11.15 To: kzm@cisco.com; Busi, Italo /itah32 Cc: dromasca@avaya.com; ifmib@ietf.org; Grandi, Pietro Vittorio /itah32 Subject: RE: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address Just for the seek of statistics ... can we have a 'show of hands' about = =20 how many vendors implement extensions in their proprietary MIBs, which =20 allow for SNMP configuration of the IP addresses at least on part of the =20 interfaces? One hand is already up. Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith McCloghrie [SMTP:kzm@cisco.com] > Sent: Tue October 10 2000 3:08 > To: Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it > Cc: ifmib@ietf.org; PietroVittorio.Grandi@netit.alcatel.it > Subject: Re: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address > =20 > > we would like to ask a clarification about how it is possible to =20 > > configure the IP address of an interface. > > =20 > > Looking at the IP-MIB (RFC 2011), there is a table that associate =20 to an =20 > > IP address the corresponding interface's ifIndex. Unfortunately, =20 this =20 > > IP address is the index of the table, and the RowStatus is missing. > > =20 > > In the IF-MIB there is no object where we can configure the =20 interface's =20 > > IP address. > =20 > All information in the IF-MIB is below layer-3, and so it would not be= > appropriate to have IP-addresses in the IF-MIB. > =20 > RFC 2011's ipAddrTable was originally defined in MIB-I (RFC 1066) and > has always been read-only, and there's has never been any strong =20 demand > to provide a read-create capability. My theory for the lack of such > demand is because configuring IP addresses via SNMP is problematic: if= > the system is a host which only has one IP address, then it can't be > configured by SNMP (over UDP/IP) until it already has an IP address: a= > chicken-and-egg scenario; even if the system is a router, with an IP > address on each interface, it would not be possible to configure all > of its addresses via SNMP. > =20 > Keith. > =20 > _______________________________________________ > ifmib mailing list > ifmib@ietf.org > http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib --openmail-part-00d1055f-00000001-- _______________________________________________ ifmib mailing list ifmib@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib From ifmib-admin@ietf.org Tue Oct 10 06:08:41 2000 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id GAA00380; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:08:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA13395; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA13370 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:01:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from itc-eml2.lannet.com (at.lannet.com [194.90.94.231]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id GAA00348 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by itc-eml2.lannet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:01:30 +0200 Message-ID: <15F58915DF84D311AC7D0090279AA614233E31@itc-eml2.lannet.com> From: Dan Romascanu To: "'Ilana Schvetz'" Cc: ifmib@ietf.org Subject: RE: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:00:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: ifmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ifmib-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Interfaces MIB working group mailing list. X-BeenThere: ifmib@ietf.org Ilana, Is this table read-only or does it allow for the creation/configuration of new interfaces? Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Ilana Schvetz [SMTP:ilana_s@radmail.rad.co.il] > Sent: Tue October 10 2000 11:44 > To: Dan Romascanu > Cc: ifmib@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address > > Hi, > I've added a host IP interface table, but the purpose was different: we > enable the user to determine more than one host interface IP per device. > > Best Regards, > > > > At 11:22 10/10/2000 +0200, you wrote: > >Just for the seek of statistics ... can we have a 'show of hands' about > how > >many vendors implement extensions in their proprietary MIBs, which allow > for > >SNMP configuration of the IP addresses at least on part of the > interfaces? > > > >One hand is already up. > > > >Regards, > > > >Dan > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Keith McCloghrie [SMTP:kzm@cisco.com] > > > Sent: Tue October 10 2000 3:08 > > > To: Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it > > > Cc: ifmib@ietf.org; PietroVittorio.Grandi@netit.alcatel.it > > > Subject: Re: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address > > > > > > > we would like to ask a clarification about how it is possible to > > > > configure the IP address of an interface. > > > > > > > > Looking at the IP-MIB (RFC 2011), there is a table that associate to > an > > > > IP address the corresponding interface's ifIndex. Unfortunately, > this > > > > IP address is the index of the table, and the RowStatus is missing. > > > > > > > > In the IF-MIB there is no object where we can configure the > interface's > > > > IP address. > > > > > > All information in the IF-MIB is below layer-3, and so it would not be > > > appropriate to have IP-addresses in the IF-MIB. > > > > > > RFC 2011's ipAddrTable was originally defined in MIB-I (RFC 1066) and > > > has always been read-only, and there's has never been any strong > demand > > > to provide a read-create capability. My theory for the lack of such > > > demand is because configuring IP addresses via SNMP is problematic: if > > > the system is a host which only has one IP address, then it can't be > > > configured by SNMP (over UDP/IP) until it already has an IP address: a > > > chicken-and-egg scenario; even if the system is a router, with an IP > > > address on each interface, it would not be possible to configure all > > > of its addresses via SNMP. > > > > > > Keith. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ifmib mailing list > > > ifmib@ietf.org > > > http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib > > > >_______________________________________________ > >ifmib mailing list > >ifmib@ietf.org > >http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib > > > > > Ilana Schvetz > RAD Data Communications LTD. > Network Management System: SW Requirements Engineer > E-mail: ilana_s@radmail.rad.co.il > Tel: 972-3-765-7549 > Fax: 972-3-644-0930 _______________________________________________ ifmib mailing list ifmib@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib From ifmib-admin@ietf.org Tue Oct 10 08:14:33 2000 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id IAA02360; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14547; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14520 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id IAA02233 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.2.37] (dialup-209.244.226.163.Washington1.Level3.net [209.244.226.163]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA19681; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:06:41 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:11:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address From: Jon Saperia To: Dan Romascanu , "'Ilana Schvetz'" CC: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <15F58915DF84D311AC7D0090279AA614233E31@itc-eml2.lannet.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ifmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ifmib-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Interfaces MIB working group mailing list. X-BeenThere: ifmib@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit on 10/10/2000 6:00 AM, Dan Romascanu at dromasca@avaya.com wrote: > Ilana, > > Is this table read-only or does it allow for the creation/configuration of > new interfaces? > > Dan Dan, I know of at least 3 vendors that are doing this now with more on the way. Though I am sure there are others that are in announced products I do no know their names. They will have to 'raise their own hands.' /jon _______________________________________________ ifmib mailing list ifmib@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib From ifmib-admin@ietf.org Tue Oct 10 08:15:46 2000 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id IAA02397; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14607; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14580 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id IAA02260 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.2.37] (dialup-209.244.226.163.Washington1.Level3.net [209.244.226.163]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA20204; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:08:37 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:13:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address From: Jon Saperia To: , , CC: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ifmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ifmib-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Interfaces MIB working group mailing list. X-BeenThere: ifmib@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit on 10/10/2000 5:42 AM, Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it at Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it wrote: > Another hand is up. > > We are thinking of using it for network configuration and renumbering. > > Regards, > > Pietro and Italo Same as my comment before 3 now, and more on the way. Actually, at Interop one of the prize winners used it for fairly sophisticated configuration. /jon _______________________________________________ ifmib mailing list ifmib@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib From ifmib-admin@ietf.org Tue Oct 10 08:29:09 2000 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id IAA02757; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14752; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14736 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radmail.rad.co.il (radmail.rad.co.il [207.232.32.10]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id IAA02558 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:22:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ilana-z.radmail.rad.co.il ([192.114.26.219]) by radmail.rad.co.il (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54115U1200L1200S0V35) with ESMTP id il for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:25:04 +0300 Message-Id: <4.3.0.20001010142136.00ba7b20@radmail.rad.co.il> X-Sender: ilana_s@radmail.rad.co.il X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:21:53 +0200 To: ifmib@ietf.org From: Ilana Schvetz Subject: Fwd: RE: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: ifmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ifmib-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Interfaces MIB working group mailing list. X-BeenThere: ifmib@ietf.org sure, >From: Dan Romascanu >To: 'Ilana Schvetz' >Subject: RE: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:55:49 +0200 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) > >Thanks. Can you clarify this to the list? (it was not clear for me at >least). > >Regards, > >Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ilana Schvetz [SMTP:ilana_s@radmail.rad.co.il] > > Sent: Tue October 10 2000 12:14 > > To: Dan Romascanu > > Subject: RE: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address > > > > Hi Dan, > > It is read/create. As I've wrote, the user is allowed to add entries to > > the > > table, which are IP interface of the managed device. > > > > Bye, > > > > > > At 12:00 10/10/2000 +0200, you wrote: > > >Ilana, > > > > > >Is this table read-only or does it allow for the creation/configuration > > of > > >new interfaces? > > > > > >Dan > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ilana Schvetz [SMTP:ilana_s@radmail.rad.co.il] > > > > Sent: Tue October 10 2000 11:44 > > > > To: Dan Romascanu > > > > Cc: ifmib@ietf.org > > > > Subject: RE: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I've added a host IP interface table, but the purpose was different: > > we > > > > enable the user to determine more than one host interface IP per > > device. > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 11:22 10/10/2000 +0200, you wrote: > > > > >Just for the seek of statistics ... can we have a 'show of hands' > > about > > > > how > > > > >many vendors implement extensions in their proprietary MIBs, which > > allow > > > > for > > > > >SNMP configuration of the IP addresses at least on part of the > > > > interfaces? > > > > > > > > > >One hand is already up. > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > > >Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Keith McCloghrie [SMTP:kzm@cisco.com] > > > > > > Sent: Tue October 10 2000 3:08 > > > > > > To: Italo.Busi@netit.alcatel.it > > > > > > Cc: ifmib@ietf.org; PietroVittorio.Grandi@netit.alcatel.it > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ifmib] Configuration of an IP address > > > > > > > > > > > > > we would like to ask a clarification about how it is possible to > > > > > > > configure the IP address of an interface. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking at the IP-MIB (RFC 2011), there is a table that > > associate to > > > > an > > > > > > > IP address the corresponding interface's ifIndex. Unfortunately, > > > > this > > > > > > > IP address is the index of the table, and the RowStatus is > > missing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the IF-MIB there is no object where we can configure the > > > > interface's > > > > > > > IP address. > > > > > > > > > > > > All information in the IF-MIB is below layer-3, and so it would > > not be > > > > > > appropriate to have IP-addresses in the IF-MIB. > > > > > > > > > > > > RFC 2011's ipAddrTable was originally defined in MIB-I (RFC 1066) > > and > > > > > > has always been read-only, and there's has never been any strong > > > > demand > > > > > > to provide a read-create capability. My theory for the lack of > > such > > > > > > demand is because configuring IP addresses via SNMP is > > problematic: if > > > > > > the system is a host which only has one IP address, then it can't > > be > > > > > > configured by SNMP (over UDP/IP) until it already has an IP > > address: a > > > > > > chicken-and-egg scenario; even if the system is a router, with an > > IP > > > > > > address on each interface, it would not be possible to configure > > all > > > > > > of its addresses via SNMP. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keith. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > ifmib mailing list > > > > > > ifmib@ietf.org > > > > > > http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >ifmib mailing list > > > > >ifmib@ietf.org > > > > >http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ilana Schvetz > > > > RAD Data Communications LTD. > > > > Network Management System: SW Requirements Engineer > > > > E-mail: ilana_s@radmail.rad.co.il > > > > Tel: 972-3-765-7549 > > > > Fax: 972-3-644-0930 > > > > > > > > > > Ilana Schvetz > > RAD Data Communications LTD. > > Network Management System: SW Requirements Engineer > > E-mail: ilana_s@radmail.rad.co.il > > Tel: 972-3-765-7549 > > Fax: 972-3-644-0930 Ilana Schvetz RAD Data Communications LTD. Network Management System: SW Requirements Engineer E-mail: ilana_s@radmail.rad.co.il Tel: 972-3-765-7549 Fax: 972-3-644-0930 _______________________________________________ ifmib mailing list ifmib@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ifmib From ifmib-admin@ietf.org Fri Oct 13 18:18:32 2000 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id SAA12713; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:18:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA24348; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA24325 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.makesys.com ([204.30.100.64]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id SAA12628 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from makesys.com (mlclient13 [204.30.100.103]) by mail.makesys.com (8.11.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e9DM9IZ07113 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39E7880D.7CA08DDB@makesys.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:09:17 -0400 From: Weigang Cao X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ifmib@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BADF925FAA054E9DCA0E7F4E" Subject: [ifmib] Interface configuration discovery Sender: ifmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ifmib-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Interfaces MIB working group mailing list. X-BeenThere: ifmib@ietf.org --------------BADF925FAA054E9DCA0E7F4E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, there, I am doing network discovery project use SNMPv2. After discover a router, I am trying to get node's routing protocol configuration also each interface's routing protocol info. Is there a single mib that allow me get the interfaces' configurations? Thanks. Weigang -- ---------------------- Weigang Cao Make Systems, Inc http://www.makesys.com --------------BADF925FAA054E9DCA0E7F4E Content-Type: text/html; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, there,

I am doing network discovery project use SNMPv2. After discover a router, I am trying
to get node's routing protocol configuration also each interface's routing protocol
info. Is there a single mib that allow me get the interfaces' configurations?
Thanks.

Weigang 

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