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Is there any plan to have IMA/EAI discussions at the 72nd IETF meeting in D=
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For all those interested in interoperability testing, discussion of 
testing plans, and reporting on interoperability testing results at the 
Dublin IETF conference, it would be really nice to see a room full of 
implementors sharing they're experiences together on this.

It doesn't have to be a formal event but it would be good if you could 
have a date and time scheduled for this at the conference. Anyone 
wishing to collaborate is free to attend.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any further ideas.

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Apoogies for the long silence.... I have been severely overloaded for 
the last few weeks.
I have now submitted a request for a session:

Working Group Name: 	Email Address Internationalization (eai)
Area Name: 	Applications Area (app)
Number of Sessions: 	1
Length of Session 1: 	2 hours
Number of Attendees: 	60
Conflicts to Avoid: 	
First Priority: 	imapext lemonade apparea ipr lemonade ltru dkim sieve 
sasl dnsop ipr smime krb-wg enum usefor tls httpbis
Second Priority: 	dnsext crisp
Other: 	please avoid conflict with BOFs of APP area,


If anyone wants to modify the list of conflicts, please shout.

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I won't be there, so I don't care too much, but surely idnabis
should also be on the conflict list.     Regards,    Martin.

At 23:12 08/05/21, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
>Apoogies for the long silence.... I have been severely overloaded for 
>the last few weeks.
>I have now submitted a request for a session:
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>Working Group Name:    Email Address Internationalization (eai)
>Area Name:     Applications Area (app)
>Number of Sessions:    1
>Length of Session 1:   2 hours
>Number of Attendees:   60
>Conflicts to Avoid:    
>First Priority:        imapext lemonade apparea ipr lemonade ltru dkim sieve 
>sasl dnsop ipr smime krb-wg enum usefor tls httpbis
>Second Priority:       dnsext crisp
>Other:         please avoid conflict with BOFs of APP area,
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>If anyone wants to modify the list of conflicts, please shout.
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Hi, after RFC.hansen-4468upd-mailesc-registry was approved the
rest of this zoo (2822upd, 2821bis, UTF8SMTP, etc.) should be
soon ready, with mailto-eai as a major missing piece of this
puzzle.

Maybe we can fill the gap without obscure syntax for the alt-
address.  A pure EAI-address (no alternative) can be used in
a mailto-bis IRI, folks can use it "as is" with UAs supporting
IRIs and EAI.

The alternative address works in ordinary mailto-bis URIs.  As
with other links, if producers use IRIs they've lost backwards
compatibility, a completely new mailto-eai syntax won't help.

If they care about backwards compatibility they can use two 
mailto: addresses, a mailto-bis IRI for EAI, and a mailto-bis
URI with the alt-address.  

The mailto-eai experiment could simply permit EAI addresses in
addition to 2822upd addresses in mailto-bis URIs, and explain
how this works for mailto-bis IRIs, arriving at four classes:

1 - mailto-bis URI with 2822upd addresses (no EAI)
2 - mailto-bis IRI with 2822upd addresses (no EAI)
3 - mailto-bis URI with EAI addresses (experimental)
4 - mailto-bis IRI with EAI addresses (ditto, nicer)

1+2 actually belongs into mailto-bis, 3+4 in mailto-eai, some
new mailto-bis examples have to be moved to mailto-eai.

 Frank

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