From klensin@jck.com Sat Mar 9 15:25:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DBD21F8795 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 15:25:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.668 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.668 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R0xwMgdf-DZR for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 15:24:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (ns.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA2421F8734 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 15:24:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [198.252.137.115] (helo=JcK-HP8200.jck.com) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UET8G-0001Uo-Fu; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 18:24:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 18:24:47 -0500 From: John C Klensin To: eai-dt@alvestrand.no, Pete Resnick Message-ID: <14CE4BEB43E4931FA22E0DBD@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Barry Leiba , Joseph Yee , ima@ietf.org Subject: [EAI] Status of the four (or five) documents X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 23:25:00 -0000 Hi. I'm copying the full EAI list on this because I'm sure people are wondering what black hole the documents dropped into. The very high-level summary is that the RFC Editor had serious problems getting several of them into shape that would be appropriate for publication. That led to some intense reviews, which turned up problems with terminology and related issues. Some of those had to be resolved because they created ambiguities or confusion, others just were worth cleaning up as we were doing other work. I want to stress that the RFC Editor has been very helpful about all of this and has put in a lot of extra effort, both of which I appreciate and believe the rest of the WG should too. Insofar as there is a problem, it is our fault for being too optimistic about what they could and would fix without a lot of input from us. I think we are all learning for the future. A note from the outgoing IETF Chair that essentially suggested that documents that had taken this long and been this much work (especially for the RFC Editor) should be returned to the WG so that they could be revised, reviewed by the WG and put through Last Call again further complicated matters and led to some additional delays. We assumed the WG wouldn't be happy with the several more months of delay that would imply, but see below. At this stage, I think the current status is as follows (if I have any of this wrong, please someone correct me). Because of crosswise normative references and the like, these documents are part of a "cluster", which means that none of them will actually be published until all of them are. (1) Barry's 5322 revision, aka RFC-to-be-6854, and simpledowngrade, aka RFC-to-be-6858, are done, signed off, and ready to publish (unless some brand-new issue shows up). (2) The IMAP spec, aka RFC-to-be-6855, has been signed off on by everyone but Shuo Shen. We are waiting on him to finish a review and tell the RFC Editor to go ahead. (3) There are still some minor issues, including a question about IPR and a bit of confusion with the RFC Editor about what changes have been approved or not, associated with the POP spec (RFC-to-be 6856). Once that is done, we will need signoff from _all_ of the authors. (4) I believe that popimap-downgrade (RFC-to-be 6857) is about ready to go modulo fixing one small definition, but I'm not sure that Kazunori Fujiwara or the RFC Editor agree (there have been some loose ends and confusion about them). With luck, we will get that straightened out tomorrow or Monday. If we still have outstanding issues left by circa Monday afternoon, I intend to ask for a f2f meeting with RFC Editor staff and as many authors as I can round up. Anyone who particularly wants to participate should like me know, especially if you will be remote. Finally, in the interest of openness and in case anyone wants to review drafts, I'm going to give away a secret to the WG that isn't really one (it is just not widely publicized). AUTH48 working drafts are at . The numbers are above -- if you want to look at a particular draft, find the number, scroll down that page until you find the latest version number associated with it and click. Files named rfcNNNN-diff.html are diffs from the I-D; other diff files are likely to be less helpful to those who haven't been involved in the AUTH48 process. The only thing I ask is that people be very careful with these drafts: they look like RFCs and have RFC numbers, but are not the RFCs, so circulating them into the wild could cause a lot of confusion. I am not expecting anyone in the WG outside the relevant authors to dig out the documents and study them, but want to give you the opportunity. If you do look at one or more of them and have comments, send them to the authors with copies to Joseph and myself (and to Pete if you think things have gone seriously astray). Silence will be construed as either consent or indifference, which are basically equivalent at this stage in the process. I look forward to seeing some of you tomorrow or during the week. best, john From klensin@jck.com Mon Mar 11 12:08:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B29621F8F73 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:08:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OCNdy+m7zAY7 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (bsa2.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BA421F8F6D for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UF854-0005iO-59; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:08:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:08:16 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: eai-dt@alvestrand.no, Pete Resnick Message-ID: <2DDEF0CFAFA09F71D104C692@JCK-EEE10> In-Reply-To: <14CE4BEB43E4931FA22E0DBD@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> References: <14CE4BEB43E4931FA22E0DBD@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Barry Leiba , Joseph Yee , ima@ietf.org Subject: Re: [EAI] Status of the four (or five) documents X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:08:27 -0000 Following up on Saturday's note and to try to continue to keep everyone informed... As of now (within the last hour), RFCs-to-be 6854, 6855, 6757, and 6858 are finished and ready for publication as soon as 6856 is signed off. The state of 6856, at least according to my records, is that Randy Gellens and JianKang Yao have signed off and that we are waiting for Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara to sign off. I have to sign off as well, but am happy with the document now and haven't done so only because I want to check any further comments. john From klensin@jck.com Mon Mar 11 15:28:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB25021F8EB7 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:28:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zL1S7HgtgujE for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (ns.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5143F21F8DF0 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UFBD4-000649-Ux; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:28:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:28:45 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: eai-dt@alvestrand.no, Pete Resnick Message-ID: <8D7BE37FF4D0798BFBB2C6A3@JCK-EEE10> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Barry Leiba , Joseph Yee , ima@ietf.org Subject: [EAI] Finished! Future of the WG X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:28:54 -0000 Hi. Thanks to Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara for their prompt action in sign off. All documents should be moving into the RFC Editor's final publication process now and, I would assume, announced and published in the next several days. So... Thanks to everyone for hard work and patience. Pete, please consider this a formal request to shut down the working group and let Joseph and me get on with out lives. The mailing list will remain open for general discussions of implementation issues and experiences and, in particular, for further work on the various "advice" documents we agreed to take out of the WG's work commitments until there is more implementation experience. Unless someone can come up with a good reason to keep it and do so within the next few days, I will ask Harald to shut down the design team/ authors mailing list. Again, thanks to everyone, especially the authors and editors, for sticking with it. I think the WG can be proud of its work and the quality of the specs. Now I anxiously await implementations and deployment. john From klensin@jck.com Mon Mar 11 15:28:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCED21F8EB7 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:28:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qxYhyDRWclop for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (ns.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C8221F8DF0 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UFBD6-000649-5N; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:28:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:26:40 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: eai-dt@alvestrand.no, Pete Resnick Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Barry Leiba , Joseph Yee , ima@ietf.org Subject: [EAI] Finished! Future of the WG X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:28:56 -0000 Hi. Thanks to Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara for their prompt action in sign off. All documents should be moving into the RFC Editor's final publication process now and, I would assume, announced and published in the next several days. So... Thanks to everyone for hard work and patience. Pete, please consider this a formal request to shut down the working group and let Joseph and me get on with out lives. The mailing list will remain open for general discussions of implementation issues and experiences and, in particular, for further work on the various "advice" documents we agreed to take out of the WG's work commitments until there is more implementation experience. Unless someone can come up with a good reason to keep it and do so within the next few days, I will ask Harald to shut down the design team/ authors mailing list. Again, thanks to everyone, especially the authors and editors, for sticking with it. I think the WG can be proud of its work and the quality of the specs. Now I anxiously await implementations and deployment. john From jyee@afilias.info Mon Mar 11 16:36:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DDB11E80A5 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:36:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q+2lGgmGO0wd for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound.afilias.info (outbound.afilias.info [66.199.183.4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B326A21F8FA6 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms5.on1.afilias-ops.info ([10.109.8.9] helo=smtp.afilias.info) by outbound.afilias.info with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UFCGd-00080B-4Q for ima@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:36:31 +0000 Received: from mail-yh0-f70.google.com ([209.85.213.70]) by smtp.afilias.info with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFCGd-00089g-40 for ima@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:36:31 +0000 Received: by mail-yh0-f70.google.com with SMTP id z20so6689798yhz.5 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:36:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=/bEH+SGjVL+eqvxatwp73D4EMkGucapJ5p+68KPSh3c=; b=FDfBNnN3Uiw4FgiptiJWTEwx+mK1Lt7DcCeqAq0nsjKIfr6tbItDBgCuYYOcC65/ap Lhpb2uFAc5WhcEXzakowCmqGXgy4hHelBv3PBdKo6C/6E0SO/n1d5xG98mtHWvX1Lcf7 b7eBMM6GKF8n849KqLPUCQ3bs4Kkvh/zzqsliRklIiyN5rT03bt+rFWCQ16LwubjJB0P kOwEFYD1SOiD+PUWSEND1avO1Bcl1bF4olpw8OAm1RxNvA6WqYHW6XUCTTbJSWWdzOxW RV66J13BP1pqzfMI/9aCoCAadmGcpyfGLmKT6xuC2JwH5BNea+4edHVsfgZZycHihfeD LKvQ== X-Received: by 10.52.68.116 with SMTP id v20mr4910430vdt.126.1363044985481; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:36:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.68.116 with SMTP id v20mr4910429vdt.126.1363044985390; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.134.5 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:36:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8D7BE37FF4D0798BFBB2C6A3@JCK-EEE10> References: <8D7BE37FF4D0798BFBB2C6A3@JCK-EEE10> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:36:25 -0400 Message-ID: From: Joseph Yee To: John C Klensin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl41ms3yZg5PMMlqXIIuvxFvFlMv+Cokl1j9ByGZ+zDl0syYS8Z8wfTn9c/tNMPQdD8cYMHqv8epeFHShhinkrHjFBz5CqpxaujzGBOqfHHdtjmYYCTxf5kfCGryh251rHPr8XT Cc: Pete Resnick , Barry Leiba , Joseph Yee , ima@ietf.org, eai-dt@alvestrand.no Subject: Re: [EAI] Finished! Future of the WG X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:36:32 -0000 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 6:28 PM, John C Klensin wrote: > Hi. > > Thanks to Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara for their prompt > action in sign off. All documents should be moving into the RFC > Editor's final publication process now and, I would assume, > announced and published in the next several days. > > So... > > Thanks to everyone for hard work and patience. > > Pete, please consider this a formal request to shut down the > working group and let Joseph and me get on with out lives. > > The mailing list will remain open for general discussions of > implementation issues and experiences and, in particular, for > further work on the various "advice" documents we agreed to take > out of the WG's work commitments until there is more > implementation experience. > > Unless someone can come up with a good reason to keep it and do > so within the next few days, I will ask Harald to shut down the > design team/ authors mailing list. > What about the implementor list? I would love to make implementation discussion more visible. So I push for closing it as well. Joseph > Again, thanks to everyone, especially the authors and editors, > for sticking with it. I think the WG can be proud of its work > and the quality of the specs. Now I anxiously await > implementations and deployment. > > john > From yaojk@cnnic.cn Mon Mar 11 19:39:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DFD21F8C61 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:39:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.295 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.295 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YKNjw2Y-iRVF for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (unknown [218.241.105.202]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AED8B21F8C49 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:39:55 -0700 (PDT) X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: yaojk@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown127.0.0.1 (HELO lenovo47e041cf) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:39:31 +0800 Message-ID: <406DEF7B6227409B9129585DE4D305F0@LENOVO47E041CF> From: "Jiankang YAO" To: "John C Klensin" , , "Pete Resnick" References: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:36:57 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Cc: Barry Leiba , Joseph Yee , ima@ietf.org Subject: Re: [EAI] Finished! 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Future of the WG X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:09:18 -0000 --On Monday, 11 March, 2013 19:36 -0400 Joseph Yee wrote: >... > What about the implementor list? I would love to make > implementation discussion more visible. So I push for closing > it as well. I had forgotten that there was a separate implementer list. Might it be best to make sure that everyone on that list is on the main list and then get rid of the separation? best, john From Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com Tue Mar 12 09:54:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DD921F8A99 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:54:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.534 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.534 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, UNRESOLVED_TEMPLATE=3.132] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WojPa2IZhwPe for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2lp0240.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.240]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AC921F85D9 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BY2FFO11FD022.protection.gbl (10.1.15.203) by BY2FFO11HUB007.protection.gbl (10.1.14.165) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.620.12; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:54:19 +0000 Received: from TK5EX14HUBC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (131.107.125.37) by BY2FFO11FD022.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.1.15.211) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.620.12 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:54:19 +0000 Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (157.54.51.112) by mail.microsoft.com (157.54.86.9) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.318.3; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:53:54 +0000 Received: from mail40-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.237) by CH1EHSOBE010.bigfish.com (10.43.70.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:50:59 +0000 Received: from mail40-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail40-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2162E30018D for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:50:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report-Untrusted: CIP:157.56.240.21; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); (null); H:BL2PRD0310HT001.namprd03.prod.outlook.com; R:internal; EFV:INT X-SpamScore: -26 X-BigFish: PS-26(zz98dI9371Ic89bh103dK1a09Jc857h1528Izz1f42h1ee6h1de0h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ahzz1033IL17326ah8275bh8275dh18c673hz31h2a8h668h839hd24hf0ah1288h12a5h12bdh137ah1441h1504h1537h153bh162dh1631h1758h18e1h1946h19b5h19ceh1ad9h1b0ah9a9j1155h) Received-SPF: softfail (mail40-ch1: transitioning domain of microsoft.com does not designate 157.56.240.21 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.240.21; envelope-from=Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com; helo=BL2PRD0310HT001.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ; .outlook.com ; X-Forefront-Antispam-Report-Untrusted: SFV:SKI; SFS:; DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:-1; SRVR:BN1PR03MB039; H:BN1PR03MB040.namprd03.prod.outlook.com; LANG:en; Received: from mail40-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail40-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1363107057124274_18792; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:50:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS011.bigfish.com (snatpool1.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.247]) by mail40-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F8746007A; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:50:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BL2PRD0310HT001.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (157.56.240.21) by CH1EHSMHS011.bigfish.com (10.43.70.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:50:52 +0000 Received: from BN1PR03MB039.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.255.225.147) by BL2PRD0310HT001.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.255.97.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.275.5; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:50:49 +0000 Received: from BN1PR03MB040.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.255.225.148) by BN1PR03MB039.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.255.225.147) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.620.20; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:50:48 +0000 Received: from BN1PR03MB040.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.6.47]) by BN1PR03MB040.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.6.189]) with mapi id 15.00.0620.020; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:50:48 +0000 From: Shawn Steele To: Yangwoo Ko , John C Klensin Thread-Topic: Finished! 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from userid 30) id 3B814B1E019; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:42:15 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20130312214215.3B814B1E019@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ima@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [EAI] RFC 6855 on IMAP Support for UTF-8 X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:42:32 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6855 Title: IMAP Support for UTF-8 Author: P. Resnick, Ed., C. Newman, Ed., S. Shen, Ed. Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: March 2013 Mailbox: presnick@qti.qualcomm.com, chris.newman@oracle.com, shenshuo@cnnic.cn Pages: 12 Characters: 24369 Obsoletes: RFC 5738 I-D Tag: draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-12.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6855.txt This specification extends the Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) to support UTF-8 encoded international characters in user names, mail addresses, and message headers. This specification replaces RFC 5738. This document is a product of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Tue Mar 12 14:43:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F262021F8CAA; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:43:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.107 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.107 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.259, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_93=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t8xfoFIRrqsw; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1097F21F8C49; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 9B5DBB1E020; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:42:45 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20130312214245.9B5DBB1E020@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ima@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [EAI] RFC 6856 on Post Office Protocol Version 3 (POP3) Support for UTF-8 X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:43:02 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6856 Title: Post Office Protocol Version 3 (POP3) Support for UTF-8 Author: R. Gellens, C. Newman, J. Yao, K. Fujiwara Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: March 2013 Mailbox: rg+ietf@qualcomm.com, chris.newman@oracle.com, yaojk@cnnic.cn, fujiwara@jprs.co.jp Pages: 14 Characters: 26790 Obsoletes: RFC5721 I-D Tag: draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-08.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6856.txt This specification extends the Post Office Protocol version 3 (POP3) to support international strings encoded in UTF-8 in usernames, passwords, mail addresses, message headers, and protocol-level text strings. This document is a product of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Tue Mar 12 14:43:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE82311E8110; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:43:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.179 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.179 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.179, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_93=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dfFdzJ1XAWyg; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5132D11E810E; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id DBA66B1E024; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:43:15 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20130312214315.DBA66B1E024@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ima@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [EAI] RFC 6857 on Post-Delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:43:31 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6857 Title: Post-Delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages Author: K. Fujiwara Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: March 2013 Mailbox: fujiwara@jprs.co.jp Pages: 20 Characters: 39255 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-08.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6857.txt The Email Address Internationalization (SMTPUTF8) extension to SMTP allows Unicode characters encoded in UTF-8 and outside the ASCII repertoire in mail header fields. Upgraded POP and IMAP servers support internationalized messages. If a POP or IMAP client does not support Email Address Internationalization, a POP or IMAP server cannot deliver internationalized messages to the client and cannot remove the message. To avoid that situation, this document describes a mechanism for converting internationalized messages into the traditional message format. As part of the conversion process, message elements that require internationalized treatment are recoded or removed, and receivers are able to recognize that they received messages containing such elements, even if they cannot process the internationalized elements. This document is a product of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Internet Official Protocol Standards (STD 1) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Tue Mar 12 14:44:05 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B5F11E80F4; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:44:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.177 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.177 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.177, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_93=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ji5Et6q0n18l; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4338E11E80F3; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id CCF34B1E025; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:43:49 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20130312214349.CCF34B1E025@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ima@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [EAI] RFC 6858 on Simplified POP and IMAP Downgrading for Internationalized Email X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:44:05 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6858 Title: Simplified POP and IMAP Downgrading for Internationalized Email Author: A. Gulbrandsen Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: March 2013 Mailbox: arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no Pages: 6 Characters: 12169 Updates: RFC 3501 I-D Tag: draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade-07.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6858.txt This document specifies a method for IMAP and POP servers to serve internationalized messages to conventional clients. The specification is simple, easy to implement, and provides only rudimentary results. This document is a product of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Internet Official Protocol Standards (STD 1) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From yangwooko@gmail.com Tue Mar 12 00:53:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D331A21F88F7 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:53:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TIvcXKAFXgcu for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9457B21F8903 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id k14so5316285oag.25 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:53:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=9W/KgZcOwmZZYVby0mNKltqlurYjDV+ksq7A1IydeWc=; b=R62CSOw7GWjhmIYq1jlLeew3yC7Qb9VoPRHvZz3FazUWG0I254by0+HvBd3YNFv5hK JdypiRDZgJWILPfGe3zOVtlUV/HEhzFf542W1sLSx97GkSQpWBnxMqaJsEnQCsT40ltf LrzEQb8kuAR/0dPzv94GkuEusHjDDqh7SQMPgCNB7db1sAaRJyknpw/p2fUHNjjblCWR ckurpqkoBEYcIsJiSISPtwfnVR/GkIZsgiANOttM3tl/etGMs3tain8JjubWJ0k+3ukQ FVnhnso1KrI9Y1cx5FfMknf9L9b2Z/C+yE+y80x0203XiN5CMOoWzue3GitL0yjh/h9A DQCg== X-Received: by 10.60.171.103 with SMTP id at7mr10984294oec.58.1363074830121; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:53:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.137.196 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:53:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Yangwoo Ko Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:53:30 +0900 Message-ID: To: John C Klensin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54a36480d42dc04d7b59764 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 08:03:33 -0700 Cc: Pete Resnick , Barry Leiba , Joseph Yee , ima@ietf.org, eai-dt@alvestrand.no Subject: Re: [EAI] Finished! Future of the WG X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:53:51 -0000 --bcaec54a36480d42dc04d7b59764 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Many thanks to everyone (esp. John Klensin) for this long and hard work. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:26 AM, John C Klensin wrote: > Hi. > > Thanks to Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara for their prompt > action in sign off. All documents should be moving into the RFC > Editor's final publication process now and, I would assume, > announced and published in the next several days. > > So... > > Thanks to everyone for hard work and patience. > > Pete, please consider this a formal request to shut down the > working group and let Joseph and me get on with out lives. > > The mailing list will remain open for general discussions of > implementation issues and experiences and, in particular, for > further work on the various "advice" documents we agreed to take > out of the WG's work commitments until there is more > implementation experience. > > Unless someone can come up with a good reason to keep it and do > so within the next few days, I will ask Harald to shut down the > design team/ authors mailing list. > > Again, thanks to everyone, especially the authors and editors, > for sticking with it. I think the WG can be proud of its work > and the quality of the specs. Now I anxiously await > implementations and deployment. > > john > > _______________________________________________ > EAI-DT mailing list > EAI-DT@alvestrand.no > http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/eai-dt > -- a human known as yangwooko@gmail.com @ GoogleTalk and as yangwooko @ Twitter --bcaec54a36480d42dc04d7b59764 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Many thanks to everyone (esp. John Klensin) for this long and hard work.
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:26 AM, John C Kle= nsin <klensin@jck.com> wrote:
Hi.

Thanks to Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara for their prompt
action in sign off. =C2=A0All documents should be moving into the RFC
Editor's final publication process now and, I would assume,
announced and published in the next several days.

So...

Thanks to everyone for hard work and patience.

Pete, please consider this a formal request to shut down the
working group and let Joseph and me get on with out lives.

The mailing list will remain open for general discussions of
implementation issues and experiences and, in particular, for
further work on the various "advice" documents we agreed to take<= br> out of the WG's work commitments until there is more
implementation experience.

Unless someone can come up with a good reason to keep it and do
so within the next few days, I will ask Harald to shut down the
design team/ authors mailing list.

Again, thanks to everyone, especially the authors and editors,
for sticking with it. =C2=A0I think the WG can be proud of its work
and the quality of the specs. =C2=A0Now I anxiously await
implementations and deployment.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0john

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a human know= n as yangwooko@gma= il.com @ GoogleTalk and as yangwooko @ Twitter --bcaec54a36480d42dc04d7b59764-- From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Mar 18 09:13:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7003021F8EE7; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:13:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.442 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.442 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.159, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zZ6oVkSUs4Ho; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E1E21F8DEE; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:13:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: IESG Secretary To: IETF Announcement List X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.43 Message-ID: <20130318161330.20268.13008.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:13:30 -0700 Cc: john-ietf@jck.com, ima@ietf.org Subject: [EAI] WG Action: Conclusion of Email Address Internationalization (eai) X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:13:32 -0000 The Email Address Internationalization (eai) Working Group in the = Applications Area has concluded. The IESG contact persons are Barry = Leiba and Pete Resnick. The mailing list will remain open.