From arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no Mon Jun 17 13:15:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA4921F9633 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:15:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=2.077] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id anM7agE9UGUC for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strange.aox.org (strange.aox.org [IPv6:2001:4d88:100c::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69B621F949F for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by strange.aox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E94FA0102; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no by fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1371500142-10872-10870/11/5; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:15:42 +0000 Received: by julenisse-gespenst (Postfix, from userid 1026) id DBF95280CBA; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:15:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:15:41 +0200 From: Arnt Gulbrandsen To: ima@ietf.org Message-Id: <20130617201536.GA29950@gulbrandsen.priv.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: [EAI] MAIL FROM SMTPUTF8 X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:15:45 -0000 Hi, it's not clear to me what an SMTP (or submit) server should do if it receives a plain old message with MAIL FROM ... SMTPUTF8, or an internationalized message without MAIL FROM ... SMTPUTF8. Can any of you advise? Also, while I'm writing, I've read the paragraph about avoiding risk, but do not understand how the extra parameter avoids risk. I realize this is water under the bridge, but I'm curious. Arnt From johnl@iecc.com Mon Jun 17 15:13:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6015E21F9DEA for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:13:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.227 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.227 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.887, BAYES_20=-0.74, HABEAS_ACCREDITED_SOI=-4.3, RCVD_IN_BSP_TRUSTED=-4.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EL25xMpqHE02 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F422E21F9D5A for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18531 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2013 22:13:23 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 17 Jun 2013 22:13:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=51bf8a03.xn--i8sz2z.k1306; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=JH+qgsD2sUu5CXloWSTnjnqPKgty07DZlIFn6w5VB9o=; b=Ltubq3KpM+FEwkXI3jXfpz/vH+34uEVYLDw/5OJHhkjto+LjoAjOZ04ytDqgUnJVpmHdWnVzBLvn9fLJd+CF6dEOPROuPBnvpRAwk6ibJRqE1C+/F8HUcG149AuFVRXTTGtT24B8Y1qZ7hO+HVkv73G2NxHG8kKKSwPlkkJHrsv3ycvSiimN9LJtD5th/xWAeEu6/KnKkWcT3OywCA7zEN3uyPdgpY/brG8L1ZCrWGiBHsZyWwDnsSeU79PUBzjJ DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=51bf8a03.xn--i8sz2z.k1306; olt=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=JH+qgsD2sUu5CXloWSTnjnqPKgty07DZlIFn6w5VB9o=; b=DskHJEchVL3p/O4rtvg1k9hE0U6gCrh/+8BfMOtHefgGUae+WZI0E87aFJw1lYLy6dXUOr3Q33pyaOqp8a+1tLAqm8OzvvOJ0X9Zn4DaQkRkMRdXCJpDnk2eLIaK5FEQoO02iR5lSU8s/nAcZlX/7+gaKDTlhsRe6olXmXf5NNy6cyzmDJW0XM52CJPAg84JxvLmty19mdZKWTmCKx3Fq2qX4NkYxyZE1Zn8aChS/PjGLg5A1qTAbt57Lo7TZZsL Date: 17 Jun 2013 22:13:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20130617221300.99076.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: ima@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20130617201536.GA29950@gulbrandsen.priv.no> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Cc: arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no Subject: Re: [EAI] MAIL FROM SMTPUTF8 X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:13:29 -0000 >it's not clear to me what an SMTP (or submit) server should do if it >receives a plain old message with MAIL FROM ... SMTPUTF8, or an >internationalized message without MAIL FROM ... SMTPUTF8. Can any of >you advise? What would it do if it saw this? MAIL FROM:<@!)#@N@@)()c$!> KAFLOOGA It should do the same thing, probably fail the command with a 501 or 555 error. For stuff with invalid content in the message, a submit server would probably try to fix it up using unspecified heuristics, and a mail relay would just sigh deeply and pass it along. I hope that nobody spends time changing the code in SMTP servers to add special case for EAI commands other than making them support EAI mail. I suppose it's possible that buggy clients will send EAI to servers that don't advertise the feature, but there's nothing new about broken clients sending broken mail. R's, John From yaojk@cnnic.cn Tue Jun 18 04:02:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6B221F9079 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 04:02:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -98.245 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.245 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mcnhzgWszete for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 04:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp.cnnic.cn [218.241.118.7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C3CA121F9B7A for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 04:02:00 -0700 (PDT) X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: yaojk@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown127.0.0.1 (HELO healthyao-think) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:01:52 +0800 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:01:51 +0800 From: "Jiankang Yao" To: "John C Klensin" , "Shawn Steele" , ima References: <2013052909254397338338@cnnic.cn>, X-Priority: 3 X-Has-Attach: no X-Mailer: Foxmail 7.0.1.92[cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2013061819012391747035@cnnic.cn> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_001_NextPart227018447410_=----" Subject: Re: [EAI] The first commercial eai products were released in China X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: yaojk List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:02:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_001_NextPart227018447410_=---- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Zm9yIHF1ZXN0aW9uIDEsDQoNCiB0aGUgY3VycmVudCBVSSBpcyBlbmdsaXNoIGFuZCBjaGluZXNl IG9ubHkuDQoNCmZvciBxdWVzaXRvbiAyLA0KDQp0aGUgY29yZW1haWwgc3lzdGVtIGNhbiBjb25m aWd1cmUgdGhlIGFzY2lpIGFkZHJlc3MgYXMgdGhlIGFsaWFzIGFkZHJlc3Mgb2YgRUFJIGFkZHJl c3MuIGZvciBleGFtcGxlLCB0ZXN0QGNhcy5jbiBjYW4gYmUgYWxpYXMgb2YgdGhlIG5vbi1hc2Np aUBub24tYXNjaWkuY24uIGJvdGggY2FzLmNuIGFuZCBub24tYXNjaWkuY24gZG9tYWluIHNoYXJl IHRoZSBzYW1lIG1haWxib3ggc3lzdGVtLg0KDQp0aGUgbGVnYWN5IHBvcCBhbmQgaW1hcCBjYW4g bm90IGFjY2VzcyB0byBjb3JlIG1haWwgc3lzdGVtIHZpYSBub24tYXNjaWlAbm9uLWFzY2lpLmNu IGFjY291bnQsIGJ1dCBjYW4gYWNjZXNzIHRvIGNvcmUgbWFpbCBzeXN0ZW0gdmlhIHRlc3RAY2Fz LmNuIGFjY291bnQuDQoNCg0KDQoNCkppYW5rYW5nIFlhbw0KDQpGcm9tOiBKb2huIEMgS2xlbnNp bg0KRGF0ZTogMjAxMy0wNS0yOSAyMzo0NQ0KVG86IHlhb2prOyBTaGF3biBTdGVlbGU7IGltYQ0K U3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtFQUldIFRoZSBmaXJzdCBjb21tZXJjaWFsIGVhaSBwcm9kdWN0cyB3ZXJl IHJlbGVhc2VkIGluIENoaW5hDQoNCg0KLS1PbiBXZWRuZXNkYXksIE1heSAyOSwgMjAxMyAwOToy NSArMDgwMCBKaWFua2FuZyBZYW8NCjx5YW9qa0Bjbm5pYy5jbj4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gY29yZW1h aWwncyBuZXcgdmVyc2lvbiBvZiBlbWFpbCBzeXN0ZW0gKENvcmVtYWlsIFhUIFYzLjApDQo+IHN1 cHBvcnRzIEVBSSBSRkMgc3VjaCBhcyByZmM2NTMxLzY1MzIuIHRoZSBjb3JlbWFpbCBzeXN0ZW0g aGFzDQo+IG1vcmUgdGhhbiA2MDAsMDAwLDAwMCB1c2Vycy4gSWYgYWxsIGNvcmVtYWlsIHN5c3Rl bXMgYXJlDQo+IHVwZ3JhZGVkIHRvIENvcmVtYWlsIFhUIFYzLjAgaW4gdGhlIGZ1dHVyZSwgdGhl cmUgd2lsbCAgaGF2ZQ0KPiBwb3RlbnRpYWwgNjAwLDAwMCwwMDAgRUFJIHVzZXJzLg0KDQpUaGlz IGlzIGdyZWF0IGFuZCA2MDBNIEVBSSB1c2VycyB3b3VsZCBjZXJ0YWlubHkgYmUgaW1wcmVzc2l2 ZS4NCg0KVHdvIHF1ZXN0aW9ucywgbW9zdGx5IG91dCBvZiBjdXJpb3NpdHk6DQoNCigxKSAgNjUz MS82NTMyIGFyZSBtb3N0bHkgYWJvdXQgdGhlIGluLXRyYW5zaXQgYW5kIGJldHdlZW4taG9zdHMN CmVudmlyb25tZW50cy4gIERvZXMgdGhpcyBuZXcgdmVyc2lvbiBvZiBDb3JlbWFpbCBhbHNvIHBy b3ZpZGUNCnJlYXNvbmFibGUgdXNlciBpbnRlcmZhY2Ugc3VwcG9ydD8gIElmIHNvLCBhcmUgdGhv c2UgVUkncw0KQ2hpbmVzZS1vbmx5IG9yIGFkYXB0ZWQgZm9yIG90aGVyIHNjcmlwdHMgYW5kIGxh bmd1YWdlcyBhcyB3ZWxsPw0KRG8gdGhlIENoaW5lc2UgVUlzIHByZXNlcnZlIHRoZSBBU0NJSSBo ZWFkZXIgZmllbGQgbmFtZXMgYmV0d2Vlbg0Kc3lzdGVtcyBidXQgc2hvdyB0aGVtIGluIENoaW5l c2UgdG8gdGhlIHVzZXIgaW4gdGhlIFVJPw0KDQooMikgV2hhdCBpcyB0aGUgc3RhdGUgb2YgUE9Q L0lNQVAgc3VwcG9ydCBhbmQsIGlmIFBPUCBhbmQgSU1BUA0KYXJlIHN1cHBvcnRlZCBhcyBpbiBS RkNzIDY4NTUgYW5kIDY4NTYsIHdoYXQgaXMgYmVpbmcgZG9uZSBhYm91dA0KbGVnYWN5IGNsaWVu dHM/DQoNClRoaXMgaXMgYW4gaW1wcmVzc2l2ZSBzdGVwIGZvcndhcmQgcmVnYXJkbGVzcyBvZiB0 aGUgYW5zd2VycyB0bw0KdGhvc2UgdHdvIHF1ZXN0aW9ucywgYnV0IEknZCBsaWtlIHRvIGJldHRl ciB1bmRlcnN0YW5kIHdoZXJlIHdlDQpzdGFuZCBvbiB0aGUgbWFueSBkaW1lbnNpb25zIG9mIHRo ZSBpMThuIGVtYWlsIGlzc3Vlcy4NCg0KYmVzdCByZWdhcmRzLA0KICAgam9obg== ------=_001_NextPart227018447410_=---- Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
for question 1,
 
 the current UI is english and ch= inese=20 only.
 
for quesiton 2,
 
the coremail system can configure the = ascii=20 address as the alias address of EAI address. for example, test@cas.cn can be alias of the non-ascii@non-ascii.cn. both ca= s.cn and=20 non-ascii.cn domain share the same mailbox system.
 
the legacy pop and imap can not access= to core=20 mail system via non-ascii@non-ascii.cn acc= ount,=20 but can access to core mail system via test@cas.cn account.
 
Jiankang Yao
 
Date: 2013-05-29 23:45
To: yaojk; Shawn Steele; ima
Subject: Re: [EAI] The first commercial eai products were= =20 released in China
 
 
--On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 09:25 +080= 0 Jiankang Yao
<yaojk@cnnic.cn> wrote:
 
> coremail's new version of email sy= stem (Coremail XT V3.0)
> supports EAI RFC such as rfc6531/6= 532. the coremail system has
> more than 600,000,000 users. If al= l coremail systems are
> upgraded to Coremail XT V3.0 in&nb= sp;the future, there will  have
> potential 600,000,000 EAI users.
 
This is great and 600M EAI users w= ould certainly be impressive.
 
Two questions, mostly out of curiosity:
 
(1)  6531/6532 are mostly about the&nbs= p;in-transit and between-hosts
environments.  Does this new version of=  Coremail also provide
reasonable user interface support?  If = so, are those UI's
Chinese-only or adapted for other scripts&nb= sp;and languages as well?
Do the Chinese UIs preserve the ASCII&n= bsp;header field names between
systems but show them in Chinese to&nbs= p;the user in the UI?
 
(2) What is the state of POP/IMAP = support and, if POP and IMAP
are supported as in RFCs 6855 and = 6856, what is being done about
legacy clients?
 
This is an impressive step forward rega= rdless of the answers to
those two questions, but I'd like to&nb= sp;better understand where we
stand on the many dimensions of the&nbs= p;i18n email issues.
 
best regards,
   john
 
------=_001_NextPart227018447410_=------ From ned+ima@mrochek.com Tue Jun 18 07:19:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6528A21F9F5A for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:19:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IakOL05sV3pP for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [66.59.230.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF7121F9F52 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01OUZIYXBFS0008PMT@mauve.mrochek.com> for ima@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:14:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01OUY9HQQS3K000054@mauve.mrochek.com> (original mail from NED@mauve.mrochek.com) for ima@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:14:26 -0700 (PDT) From: ned+ima@mrochek.com Message-id: <01OUZIYVT4IA000054@mauve.mrochek.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:10:35 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: "Your message dated Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:13:00 +0000" <20130617221300.99076.qmail@joyce.lan> References: <20130617201536.GA29950@gulbrandsen.priv.no> <20130617221300.99076.qmail@joyce.lan> To: John Levine Cc: arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no, ima@ietf.org Subject: Re: [EAI] MAIL FROM SMTPUTF8 X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:19:37 -0000 > >it's not clear to me what an SMTP (or submit) server should do if it > >receives a plain old message with MAIL FROM ... SMTPUTF8, or an > >internationalized message without MAIL FROM ... SMTPUTF8. Can any of > >you advise? > What would it do if it saw this? > MAIL FROM:<@!)#@N@@)()c$!> KAFLOOGA > It should do the same thing, probably fail the command with a 501 or > 555 error. > For stuff with invalid content in the message, a submit server would > probably try to fix it up using unspecified heuristics, and a mail > relay would just sigh deeply and pass it along. > I hope that nobody spends time changing the code in SMTP servers to > add special case for EAI commands other than making them support EAI > mail. I suppose it's possible that buggy clients will send EAI to > servers that don't advertise the feature, but there's nothing new about > broken clients sending broken mail. Completely agree in regards to an EAI message without SMTPUTF8. As for a non-EAI message that's marked EAI, how I handle that is going to depend on whether or not for other reasons I happen to notice that the message isn't EAI. If I do notice that I may choose to drop the EAI label. But expecting agents to do a full MIME parse just to determine the EAI-ness of a message? Not going to happen. Ned From klensin@jck.com Tue Jun 18 07:35:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B91121F9BDB for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:35:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rYXFaX8BS1QM for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (bsa2.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E979521F9D05 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.252.137.115] (helo=JcK-HP8200.jck.com) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Uowzg-000NpG-O9; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 10:34:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 10:34:43 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: ned+ima@mrochek.com, John Levine Message-ID: <8306F43BA6AC455EB636B60B@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> In-Reply-To: <01OUZIYVT4IA000054@mauve.mrochek.com> References: <20130617201536.GA29950@gulbrandsen.priv.no> <20130617221300.99076.qmail@joyce.lan> <01OUZIYVT4IA000054@mauve.mrochek.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no, ima@ietf.org Subject: Re: [EAI] MAIL FROM SMTPUTF8 X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:35:07 -0000 --On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 07:10 -0700 ned+ima@mrochek.com wrote: >... > Completely agree in regards to an EAI message without > SMTPUTF8. As for a non-EAI message that's marked EAI, how I > handle that is going to depend on whether or not for other > reasons I happen to notice that the message isn't EAI. If I do > notice that I may choose to drop the EAI label. But expecting > agents to do a full MIME parse just to determine the EAI-ness > of a message? Not going to happen. Agreed. I would add that, IIR, the decision of the WG to require explicit client announcements of EAI addresses or headers was a decision to eliminate all claims that a recipient MTA was required to parse content to determine what to do about it. I don't think we should be reversing that decision through the back door even though nothing prevents such an MTA from doing a full MIMR parse if its designers believe that is necessary. john From arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no Tue Jun 18 12:22:30 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E331411E8102 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 12:22:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.56 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jQYPNKryvHQD for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 12:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strange.aox.org (strange.aox.org [IPv6:2001:4d88:100c::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F26911E80F6 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 12:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by strange.aox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDF4FA0102; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no by fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1371583342-10872-10870/12/12; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:22:22 +0000 User-Agent: Kaiten Mail In-Reply-To: <8306F43BA6AC455EB636B60B@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> References: <20130617201536.GA29950@gulbrandsen.priv.no> <20130617221300.99076.qmail@joyce.lan> <01OUZIYVT4IA000054@mauve.mrochek.com> <8306F43BA6AC455EB636B60B@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----AE705VNZXQ62ACYFOR8J4N3KYSDZ16 From: Arnt Gulbrandsen Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:22:17 +0200 To: John C Klensin , ned+ima@mrochek.com, John Levine Message-Id: Cc: ima@ietf.org Subject: Re: [EAI] MAIL FROM SMTPUTF8 X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:22:30 -0000 ------AE705VNZXQ62ACYFOR8J4N3KYSDZ16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I understand now. 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Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:40:38 +0000 Received: from BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.1.158]) by BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.1.158]) with mapi id 15.00.0702.005; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:40:37 +0000 From: Shawn Steele To: "ima@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: MAIL FROM SMTPUTF8 Thread-Index: Ac5sjN4q9BXcqZtCSEu6ZKT6VT8PgQ== Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:40:36 +0000 Message-ID: <97fd54d9810d4dc8947eea4d29c11adc@BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [2001:4898:90:1007:9985:b938:e570:77a8] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OrganizationHeadersPreserved: BLUPR03MB166.namprd03.prod.outlook.com X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%59$Dn%IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%6$FQDN%corpf5vips-237160.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn% X-CrossPremisesHeadersPromoted: TK5EX14HUBC101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com X-CrossPremisesHeadersFiltered: TK5EX14HUBC101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:131.107.125.37; CTRY:US; IPV:CAL; IPV:NLI; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(189002)(199002)(6806003)(76176001)(33646001)(74876001)(59766001)(47776003)(47446002)(44976003)(50986001)(20776003)(76576001)(76786001)(47976001)(56776001)(76796001)(77096001)(69226001)(74706001)(47736001)(63696002)(49866001)(74366001)(81342001)(16676001)(54356001)(65816001)(56816003)(46406003)(4396001)(81542001)(80022001)(54316002)(46102001)(53806001)(74662001)(76482001)(51856001)(77982001)(79102001)(50466002)(74502001)(74316001)(31966008)(23726002)(3826001)(24736002)(217873001); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2FFO11HUB009; H:TK5EX14HUBC101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com; CLIP:131.107.125.37; RD:InfoDomainNonexistent; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.onmicrosoft.com X-O365ENT-EOP-Header: Message processed by - O365_ENT: Allow from ranges (Engineering ONLY) X-Forefront-PRVS: 08828D20BC Subject: Re: [EAI] MAIL FROM SMTPUTF8 X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:41:11 -0000 > it's not clear to me what an SMTP (or submit) server should do if it rece= ives a plain old message with MAIL FROM ... SMTPUTF8, I don't write mail servers, but I'd probably be liberal and accept it. Tec= hnically that shouldn't happen though, so it'd be fair to spit out an error= . > or an internationalized message without MAIL FROM ... SMTPUTF8. Can any o= f you advise? It's probably supposed to be an error, but how would you know? Many mail a= pps currently pass through non-ASCII as raw bytes. You should probably end= up in an error state if you detected the condition, but if you "knew" it w= as UTF-8, then I suppose you could fall back like some apps fall back to ot= her code pages today. -Shawn=20 From Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com Tue Jun 18 18:51:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA5F21E804B for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:51:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.533 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.533 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, UNRESOLVED_TEMPLATE=3.132] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rQpvXUGLw-tN for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2lp0238.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.238]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D5511E8125 for ; 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Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BL2PRD0310HT003.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (157.56.240.21) by DB8EHSMHS016.bigfish.com (10.174.4.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:42:24 +0000 Received: from BLUPR03MB166.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.255.212.142) by BL2PRD0310HT003.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.255.97.38) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.324.0; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:42:21 +0000 Received: from BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.255.212.152) by BLUPR03MB166.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.255.212.142) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.702.21; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:42:19 +0000 Received: from BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.1.158]) by BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.1.158]) with mapi id 15.00.0702.005; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:42:19 +0000 From: Shawn Steele To: "ima@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: The first commercial eai products were released in China Thread-Index: Ac5sjgjOHgAPScGEQue56g0UamQi3Q== Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:42:18 +0000 Message-ID: <42496c3e0fda481e86148c4d4bad43c1@BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [2001:4898:90:1007:9985:b938:e570:77a8] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OrganizationHeadersPreserved: BLUPR03MB166.namprd03.prod.outlook.com X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%59$Dn%IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%6$FQDN%corpf5vips-237160.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn% X-CrossPremisesHeadersPromoted: TK5EX14MLTC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com X-CrossPremisesHeadersFiltered: TK5EX14MLTC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:131.107.125.37; CTRY:US; IPV:CAL; IPV:NLI; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(199002)(189002)(77982001)(47776003)(50986001)(76176001)(51856001)(47736001)(74366001)(53806001)(63696002)(46102001)(50466002)(79102001)(47446002)(74316001)(81342001)(54356001)(56816003)(54316002)(56776001)(59766001)(80022001)(6806003)(74502001)(16676001)(31966008)(33646001)(46406003)(81542001)(74662001)(69226001)(76786001)(76482001)(74706001)(20776003)(4396001)(76576001)(23726002)(76796001)(77096001)(74876001)(47976001)(49866001)(65816001)(24736002)(3826001); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BN1AFFO11HUB027; H:TK5EX14MLTC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com; CLIP:131.107.125.37; RD:InfoDomainNonexistent; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.onmicrosoft.com X-O365ENT-EOP-Header: Message processed by - O365_ENT: Allow from ranges (Engineering ONLY) X-Forefront-PRVS: 08828D20BC Subject: Re: [EAI] The first commercial eai products were released in China X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:51:24 -0000 > the coremail system can configure the ascii address as the alias address = of EAI address.=20 > for example, test@cas.cn can be alias of the non-ascii@non-ascii.cn. both= cas.cn and=20 > non-ascii.cn domain share the same mailbox system. That sounds like a good approach. Has anyone deployed it somewhere that th= ere could be test accounts created for interoperability testing? -Shawn From arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no Thu Jun 20 06:18:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECD121F9BC0 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:18:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.08 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.08 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.520, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yuFwgzgWeGMa for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strange.aox.org (strange.aox.org [IPv6:2001:4d88:100c::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DC821F9BB4 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by strange.aox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A749FA00FF; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no by fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1371734328-10872-10870/12/17; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:18:48 +0000 Received: by julenisse-gespenst (Postfix, from userid 1026) id 892FD281362; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:18:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:18:48 +0200 From: Arnt Gulbrandsen To: ima@ietf.org Message-Id: <20130620131848.GB3303@gulbrandsen.priv.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: [EAI] Some example messages? X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:18:52 -0000 Hi, do any of you have some example messages that EAI-capable software should handle? (I'm just being lazy now.) 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Thread-Index: Ac5u7oSIHF34t5PvSbaxh+ntQ9AQCw== Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 02:17:10 +0000 Message-ID: <0116d91c742b488ba80ec9918d79e5b5@BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [2001:4898:90:1007:581:f963:a27d:6cba] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OrganizationHeadersPreserved: BLUPR03MB165.namprd03.prod.outlook.com X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%59$Dn%IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%6$FQDN%corpf5vips-237160.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn% X-CrossPremisesHeadersPromoted: TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com X-CrossPremisesHeadersFiltered: TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:131.107.125.37; CTRY:US; IPV:CAL; IPV:NLI; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(199002)(189002)(47736001)(50986001)(51856001)(47976001)(4396001)(33646001)(23726002)(46102001)(74502001)(44976004)(65816001)(31966008)(80022001)(74662001)(16676001)(69226001)(46406003)(47776003)(63696002)(6806003)(20776003)(49866001)(558084003)(54316002)(74706001)(50466002)(56776001)(59766001)(77982001)(74316001)(79102001)(76576001)(74366001)(47446002)(76796001)(76786001)(77096001)(53806001)(76482001)(56816003)(54356001)(76176001)(81542001)(74876001)(81342001)(3826001)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BL2FFO11HUB023; H:TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com; CLIP:131.107.125.37; RD:InfoDomainNonexistent; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.onmicrosoft.com X-O365ENT-EOP-Header: Message processed by - O365_ENT: Allow from ranges (Engineering ONLY) X-Forefront-PRVS: 088552DE73 Subject: Re: [EAI] Some example messages? X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 02:18:36 -0000 > Wouldn't a really simple example be something like: Well that would've worked better if EAI was already implemented :) Replace ? with your favorite UTF-8 character :) From arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no Sat Jun 22 00:19:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E001721F9DDE for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 00:19:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.252 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.252 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.346, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4HM4h4MrOpqN for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 00:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strange.aox.org (strange.aox.org [IPv6:2001:4d88:100c::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C2A21F9DD8 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 00:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by strange.aox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FFFFA0102; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 07:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no by fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1371885583-10872-10870/11/11; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 07:19:43 +0000 User-Agent: Kaiten Mail In-Reply-To: <0116d91c742b488ba80ec9918d79e5b5@BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> References: <0116d91c742b488ba80ec9918d79e5b5@BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----M4Q2A2U5EA6HLUPT1V0EWBQKKR0OUC From: Arnt Gulbrandsen Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 09:19:38 +0200 To: Shawn Steele , ima@ietf.org Message-Id: Subject: Re: [EAI] Some example messages? X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 07:19:47 -0000 ------M4Q2A2U5EA6HLUPT1V0EWBQKKR0OUC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, well, that's not exactly comprehensive. I suppose I'll make something myself at some point. Seems easy, ten = messages should do it, perhaps fifteen. Arnt ------M4Q2A2U5EA6HLUPT1V0EWBQKKR0OUC Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, well, that's not exactly comprehensive.

I suppose I'll make something myself at some point. Seems = easy, ten messages should do it, perhaps fifteen.


Arnt ------M4Q2A2U5EA6HLUPT1V0EWBQKKR0OUC-- From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Sat Jun 22 05:29:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFB821F9FE3 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:29:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.023 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.023 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.046, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YLLmW57RcXBt for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x233.google.com (mail-ve0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0211E21F9F2A for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id d10so7312281vea.38 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:29:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VoPXLc0xyUarEx6CvpTJfLr3TYTn85gUpJKW2Ahs/WM=; b=HR1eu5TrRerFi3TyhQl/O7zFodA/c4AWPtOFXXR8mL5c0t88mgM31dFowsDiI7+xkT 909xmABoaLnxjQXQel1RlXmoHcUERh+AB3v5/aq+2RDCh0ZhtEse5dBroZ+ne/KHNpKP HNe6y9cnzl0gTRcNQqmeN6ya7mzFVsdUOH4GstBqARCFV+fgfq5iNhhGy9ISBS2GXX0A IArEIA6pFQMwzP27PgMeBt3GIe/b3sUyb8NKfOwXp1Fr4pcCY0QVdNpAIQ/XB6uQm2eh vmhwxzWPB63+7wytxedIxQiZHPP141ZwDuvIKutHl0RC0LK6oJiDiMNKHwu88MCUnGKA nWyA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.211.7 with SMTP id my7mr7812349vec.54.1371904150976; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.234.105 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:29:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0116d91c742b488ba80ec9918d79e5b5@BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:29:10 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wcJDBprmoa3vxf__s7fB-bN359M Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: Arnt Gulbrandsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6b2b295bdb104dfbd534e Cc: Shawn Steele , "ima@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [EAI] Some example messages? X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 12:29:17 -0000 --047d7bd6b2b295bdb104dfbd534e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Seems easy, ten messages should do it, perhaps fifteen. > Seventeen. It's the world's most random number. Barry --047d7bd6b2b295bdb104dfbd534e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Seems easy, ten messages shou= ld do it, perhaps fifteen.

Seventeen. =A0It's the world's most random nu= mber.

Barry
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X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 08:45:19 -0000 On 2013/06/22 11:17, Shawn Steele wrote: >> Wouldn't a really simple example be something like: > > Well that would've worked better if EAI was already implemented :) > > Replace ? with your favorite UTF-8 character :) I'm not sure why, but I was able to read all the text in the examples, and didn't see any question marks. As long as all the data (even the headers) is in the body, that's how it should work, shouldn't it? Regards, Martin. 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Jiankang Yao
 
Date: 2013-06-23 16:44
CC: ima@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [EAI] Some example messages?
 
>but I was able to read all the=  text in the examples, 
>and didn't see any question marks. =
>
 
me too.
 
I think that most  email readers support UTF8.
 
Jiankang YAO
------=_001_NextPart115681366808_=------ From eai@troystarr.net Mon Jun 24 12:15:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF2521E8173 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:15:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Rh1-ThX+6XA for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remote.troystarr.net (remote.troystarr.net [173.160.129.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B9021E816F for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FORGE.foundry.home ([fe80::599b:e728:78bb:4618]) by FORGE.foundry.home ([fe80::599b:e728:78bb:4618%10]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:15:21 -0700 From: Troy Starr To: 'Shawn Steele' Thread-Topic: [EAI] Some example messages? Thread-Index: AQHOcQ0u+lF+R9L4CUy1qS18yFoN35lFO0VA Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:15:20 +0000 Message-ID: <0D5F24F87A782E4FAD0EC0925EBFEE210753A3B0@FORGE.foundry.home> References: <0116d91c742b488ba80ec9918d79e5b5@BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> <51C6B57D.5050809@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <2a38d1721f8d48828c007a19e84501b0@BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <2a38d1721f8d48828c007a19e84501b0@BLUPR03MB168.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.24.101] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "'ima@ietf.org'" Subject: Re: [EAI] Some example messages? X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:15:37 -0000 RldJVywgSSB3YXMgYWJsZSB0byBzZWUgdGhlIGNvcnJlY3QgVW5pY29kZSBjaGFyYWN0ZXJzIGlu IHRoZSBleGFtcGxlcyB5b3Ugb3JpZ2luYWxseSBzZW50IGFuZCBJIGFsc28gcmVjZWl2ZSB0aGUg ZGlnZXN0IHZlcnNpb24gb2YgdGhpcyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QuDQoNCi0gVHJveSBTdGFycg0KDQot LS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLQ0KRnJvbTogU2hhd24gU3RlZWxlIFttYWlsdG86U2hh d24uU3RlZWxlQG1pY3Jvc29mdC5jb21dIA0KU2VudDogU3VuZGF5LCBKdW5lIDIzLCAyMDEzIDEy OjMzIFBNDQpUbzogIk1hcnRpbiBKLiBEw7xyc3QiDQpDYzogaW1hQGlldGYub3JnDQpTdWJqZWN0 OiBSZTogW0VBSV0gU29tZSBleGFtcGxlIG1lc3NhZ2VzPw0KDQpJIGdldCB0aGUgZGlnZXN0IHZl cnNpb24sIGFwcGFyZW50bHkgdGhlIGRpZ2VzdGlmaWVyIGNhbid0IGhhbmRsZSB0aGUgVVRGLTgu ICBBbnl3YXksIHllcywgaXQncyBhIHZlcnkgc2ltcGxlIHRlc3QsIGJ1dCBJJ20gbm90IHN1cmUg aG93IG11Y2ggbW9yZSB0aG9yb3VnaCBpcyBuZWVkZWQ/ICBVbmxlc3MgeW91IHdhbnQgbmVnYXRp dmUgdGVzdHMsIGxpa2UgYmFkIFVURi04IG9yIHNvbWV0aGluZy4NCg0KLS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBN ZXNzYWdlLS0tLS0NCkZyb206ICJNYXJ0aW4gSi4gRMO8cnN0IiBbbWFpbHRvOmR1ZXJzdEBpdC5h b3lhbWEuYWMuanBdIA0KU2VudDogU3VuZGF5LCBKdW5lIDIzLCAyMDEzIDE6NDUgQU0NClRvOiBT aGF3biBTdGVlbGUNCkNjOiBpbWFAaWV0Zi5vcmcNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbRUFJXSBTb21lIGV4 YW1wbGUgbWVzc2FnZXM/DQoNCk9uIDIwMTMvMDYvMjIgMTE6MTcsIFNoYXduIFN0ZWVsZSB3cm90 ZToNCj4+IFdvdWxkbid0IGEgcmVhbGx5IHNpbXBsZSBleGFtcGxlIGJlIHNvbWV0aGluZyBsaWtl Og0KPg0KPiBXZWxsIHRoYXQgd291bGQndmUgd29ya2VkIGJldHRlciBpZiBFQUkgd2FzIGFscmVh ZHkgaW1wbGVtZW50ZWQgOikNCj4NCj4gUmVwbGFjZSA/IHdpdGggeW91ciBmYXZvcml0ZSBVVEYt OCBjaGFyYWN0ZXIgOikNCg0KSSdtIG5vdCBzdXJlIHdoeSwgYnV0IEkgd2FzIGFibGUgdG8gcmVh ZCBhbGwgdGhlIHRleHQgaW4gdGhlIGV4YW1wbGVzLCBhbmQgZGlkbid0IHNlZSBhbnkgcXVlc3Rp b24gbWFya3MuIEFzIGxvbmcgYXMgYWxsIHRoZSBkYXRhIChldmVuIHRoZQ0KaGVhZGVycykgaXMg aW4gdGhlIGJvZHksIHRoYXQncyBob3cgaXQgc2hvdWxkIHdvcmssIHNob3VsZG4ndCBpdD8NCg0K UmVnYXJkcywgICBNYXJ0aW4uDQoNCg0K From yaojk@cnnic.cn Mon Jun 24 19:46:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E5721E8050 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:46:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -98.689 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.689 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.297, BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QnQ1tuad3GU5 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp.cnnic.cn [218.241.118.7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 808CA21E8087 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:46:06 -0700 (PDT) X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: yaojk@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown127.0.0.1 (HELO healthyao-think) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:46:04 +0800 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:46:04 +0800 From: "Jiankang Yao" To: ima X-Priority: 3 X-Has-Attach: no X-Mailer: Foxmail 7.0.1.92[cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2013062510455729953921@cnnic.cn> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_001_NextPart441118804677_=----" Subject: [EAI] EAI clients X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: yaojk List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 02:46:11 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_001_NextPart441118804677_=---- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 RGVhciBhbGwsDQogDQoNCiAgICAgICBEb2VzIGFueW9uZSBrbm93IHRoYXQgc29tZSBtYWlsIGNs aWVudHMgd2lsbCBzdXBwb3J0IG9yIGhhdmUgc3VwcG9ydGVkIEVBST8NCiAgICAgIEN1cnJlbnRs eSwgSSB1c2UgIGh0dHA6Ly9mb3htYWlsLmNvbS5jbi8gLCBidXQgaXQgcGFydGx5IHN1cHBvcnRz IGVhaSB3aXRoIHNvbWUgYnVncy4NCg0KDQoNCg0KSmlhbmthbmcgWWFv ------=_001_NextPart441118804677_=---- Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,
 
 
       D= oes=20 anyone know that some mail clients will support or have=20 supported EAI?
      Current= ly, I=20 use  http://foxmail.com.cn/ ,=20 but it partly supports eai with some bugs.
 
Jiankang Yao
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