From alo@louko.com Mon Dec 10 03:37:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: imap5@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: imap5@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4F121F8E5B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:37:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kIlSa33nW3br for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:37:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.louko.com (x3.louko.com [83.150.98.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740A321F8E56 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.13] (lenovo.louko.com [10.0.0.13]) by mail2.louko.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6AB750D7; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50C5C96C.2050702@louko.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:37:16 +0200 From: Antti Louko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: imap5@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [imap5] A note for MRC and Annie X-BeenThere: imap5@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion on drastically slimming-down IMAP." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:37:23 -0000 Dear Mark, You brought TOPS-20 back to us again after so many years. I still remember your over the night support fixing the monitor bug related to FTP server and strange time zones (east of GMT). And your IMAP work has been a major contribution for the whole world. We never met in person but if I ever had been anywhere near you live, I would certainly visited. Regards, Antti Louko From eburger-l@standardstrack.com Wed Dec 12 18:05:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: imap5@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: imap5@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6801F1F0CB1 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:05:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tYT2ux9PKMbx for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from biz104.inmotionhosting.com (biz104.inmotionhosting.com [173.247.254.120]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36B51F0CB0 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:05:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip68-100-199-8.dc.dc.cox.net ([68.100.199.8]:54507 helo=[192.168.15.175]) by biz104.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TiyB5-0000wG-IO for imap5@ietf.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:05:35 -0800 From: Eric Burger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:05:36 -0500 Message-Id: To: imap5@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz104.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: [imap5] For Mark X-BeenThere: imap5@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion on drastically slimming-down IMAP." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 02:05:42 -0000 Mark - Lemonade was a long slog. As always, and as others have mentioned, we = had lots of arguments of what the scope of mobile messaging should be. = And, as always, and as others have mentioned, in the long run, you were = right. We got the important stuff done quickly and the not so important = stuff done slow. I will miss our discussions, not only about protocols, = but about getting from here to there and the differences of what is = important to everyone versus what is important to a few. May you find = peace and happiness. - Eric -- Dr. Eric Burger Director, Georgetown Center for Secure Communications, = Research Professor of Computer Science, = From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Thu Dec 13 07:32:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: imap5@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: imap5@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F3721F8B64 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:32:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.766 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.766 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.389, BAYES_50=0.001, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wTp7WBQSN-eN for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A62921F8AD5 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id y2so1865876lbk.31 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:31:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0ryCqUoSEnGNJp5wBlxEeKI6mn8vjFqNPZCK6FalCEQ=; b=dxNJBfPv/q6qharKVW33Wihd2htqV77LHCXnADSOj1oBmF4KkatlSx/QurkIvAYXTK 9QlMSYIdAKYkvufX3GA1p/CZMiLTzOPJI9eRePlA3HhmPQS+KUqK51D5n6TuhI1CWkBo g7JAfS92ZxaoxcKiHXf1HO+Xadg0JBHi53AOEcY0juOcGXnCIiXDsYSRm9ImheLqaX/K pO43zvSBRY7ZFNxxG0t9cOcaOF3Ojqyrc9MUl5+qdb5ZBh7YdB36fSwiUJkMdhGDRL9B 0TOJB5gfGqTRbK7Mqa43s9Gum7u1eIziHpPdcHUnnQXW1wuK+0rsoOg2DtNyZ8tHzLpv dj8A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.51.233 with SMTP id n9mr771900lbo.47.1355412710091; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:31:50 -0800 (PST) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.12.166 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:31:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:31:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8Ienpe6rZlJjGz5KedsLrCeanfY Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: imap5@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [imap5] News about Mark Crispin X-BeenThere: imap5@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion on drastically slimming-down IMAP." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:32:01 -0000 > I've sent all the messages so far, in a few batches. I got a response > from Annie thanking all of you who have sent messages, and saying > this: > >> While I was reading him the emails, he was awake, his eyes were sparkling, >> and he was smiling. He really enjoyed hearing about how much his work >> meant to others. > > I'll continue forwarding anything further. The latest news from Annie is not so good; this arrived last night: -------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, folks, It may be that Mark is reaching the end. The last two days, he has been unable to keep much food down; he is not responding to his name being called nor is he responding to touch. I have been told by the hospice nurse that when a person is unable to keep food down, it usually means his digestive system is starting to shut down. It is only a matter of time, now. Still when he was first diagnosed, he was told he would see the end of April for sure, 50% chance to see the end of May, and 10% of a chance to see the end of June. It is now December. Mark's firmness has proved their timeline wrong, but then, he always was a little obstinate B-). Still I have to be thankful for the time I had with Mark. We had a lot of good times. Thank you for all your support and wishes for Mark. I wish he could've had more time on this world to make his mark. Annie Li -------------------------------------------------------------- From prvs=5699a1d07d=zordogh@rim.com Tue Dec 18 11:10:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: imap5@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: imap5@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A56521F858C for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:10:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3iAcc-5yJoee for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mhs061cnc.rim.net (mhs061cnc.rim.net [208.65.73.35]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EEB21F8594 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:10:43 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 0a412830-b7fdf6d000002d0d-c0-50d0bfa680cc Received: from XCT102CNC.rim.net (xct102cnc.rim.net [10.65.161.202]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mhs061cnc.rim.net (SBG) with SMTP id 69.B8.11533.6AFB0D05; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:10:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from XCT111CNC.rim.net (10.65.161.211) by XCT102CNC.rim.net (10.65.161.202) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.318.1; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:10:29 -0500 Received: from XMB163CNC.rim.net ([fe80::5805:6acc:b23a:e0a6]) by XCT111CNC.rim.net ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:10:29 -0500 From: Zoltan Ordogh To: Barry Leiba , "imap5@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [imap5] News about Mark Crispin Thread-Index: AQHNyr50O7c+UoWdR0aMgatxwYT/bpgXTESAgAfEM4A= Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:10:28 +0000 Message-ID: <1DE983233DBBEB4A81F18FABD8208D762314EAE8@XMB163CNC.rim.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, en-CA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.65.160.247] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrDKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXC5bjwlO6y/RcCDDbdF7M4tPgSq8WkGZeZ HZg8Wlb1MnssWfKTKYApqoHRJimxpCw4Mz1P384mMS8vvySxJFUhJbU42VbJJzU9MUchoCiz LDG5UsElszg5JzEzN7VISSEzxVbJREmhICcxOTU3Na/EVimxoCA1L0XJjksBA9gAlWXmKaTm JeenZOal2yp5BvvrWliYWuoaKtnpJnTyZFw43chYsIW54uKPtYwNjHeZuhg5OCQETCR+bQ7s YuQEMsUkLtxbz9bFyMUhJNDOJPFs5QsWCGclo8SREz1QzhxGicd/N7CBdLMJqErMuRoL0i0i 4COxa8pWNhBbWEBH4vXLG8wQcV2JXW/uMoOUiwhYSUxqqAIJswB1rt1zhRHE5hXwkLgzcTcr xPgDjBI/5q1gAklwCgRKvNl8B2wOo4CsxNo5K1lBbGYBcYlbT+YzQVwtILFkz3lmCFtU4uXj f6wQjylKdN7QgCjXk7gxdQobhK0tsWzha2aIvYISJ2c+YQGxhQRkJJ5PucQ+gVF8FpINs5C0 z0LSPgtJ+wJGllWMgrkZxQZmhsl5yXpFmbl6eaklmxjByUPDYAfj+/cWhxgFOBiVeHiDFl8I EGJNLCuuzD3EKMHBrCTCe24CUIg3JbGyKrUoP76oNCe1+BCjKzCEJjJLcSfnAxNbXkm8sYEB bo6SOG/nHKAhAunAVJWdmlqQWgQzh4mDE2QPl5RIMTDhpBYllpZkxIPSYnwxMDFKNTCyFThq FessP/g/0N/jvPDpZJ9MztP5j+4ndfsv37zNVKq654L1nFPdXYFrtXQ4Tt593Hv24/+nUW+K 9S1ObhBq4FDZ+jl4Vb5kGFftLblAuc6KuQffGJ7JfsBiKdp4dIL05UWz5rzcudVtgYbnjwrJ 3ZIre/8LBt3fKToz0YlNW8znPY/M4SAlluKMREMt5qLiRAAmRpp/XwMAAA== Subject: Re: [imap5] News about Mark Crispin X-BeenThere: imap5@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion on drastically slimming-down IMAP." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:10:44 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: imap5-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:imap5-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Barry Leiba > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:32 > To: imap5@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [imap5] News about Mark Crispin > > Thank you for all your support and wishes for Mark. I wish he could've had > more time on this world to make his mark. [Z=D6r] He has already made a mark most of us just dream about. --------------------------------------------------------------------- This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential infor= mation, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-c= lient or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information.= Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is= prohibited. 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