From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sat Oct 20 08:20:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D891F21F8475; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:20:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WFF3gOthIDy3; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5739A21F8480; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:20:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121020152032.17505.55364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:20:32 -0700 Cc: imapext@ietf.org Subject: [imapext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-imapmove-command-02.txt X-BeenThere: imapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of IMAP extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:20:33 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the IMAP MOVE extension Working Group of the = IETF. Title : The IMAP Move Extension Author(s) : Arnt Gulbrandsen Ned Freed Filename : draft-ietf-imapmove-command-02.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2012-10-20 Abstract: This document defines an IMAP extension consisting of two new commands, MOVE and UID MOVE, that are used to move messages from one mailbox to another. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-imapmove-command There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-imapmove-command-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-imapmove-command-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From jkt@flaska.net Mon Oct 29 07:09:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F0C21F86DB for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 07:09:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y5o9vGcawe65 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 07:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from latimerie.flaska.net (latimerie.flaska.net [IPv6:2a02:2b88:2:1::4a7:333]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D091921F85BB for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 07:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by latimerie.flaska.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E69706144E; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:09:25 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan_Kundr=E1t?= To: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:08:35 +0100 User-Agent: trojita/v0.3-1339-gde0726d-dirty; Qt/4.8.3; X11; Linux; MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20121020152032.17505.55364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [imapext] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-imapmove-command-02.txt X-BeenThere: imapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of IMAP extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:09:25 -0000 > The QUOTA extension (defined by [RFC2087]) may interact with MOVE, on= =0A> some servers, in the sense that a MOVE command may succeed where C= OPY=0A> would cause a quota overrun. This may be user-visible, but sho= uld=0A> not be MUA-visible.=0A=0AHi Arnt, it isn't clear to me what thi= s paragraph actually means -- what's the difference between "MUA-visibl= e" and user-visible?=0A=0AApart from that, I don't see any errors in th= is draft.=0A=0AWith kind regards,=0AJan=0A=0A-- =0ATrojita, a fast e-ma= il client -- http://trojita.flaska.net/ From ned.freed@mrochek.com Mon Oct 29 09:36:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D828B21F870A for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:36:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3lz+-kCB6GOn for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [66.59.230.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0A821F8703 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01OLZK4Z2C2O000TDJ@mauve.mrochek.com> for imapext@ietf.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01OLZJL20SR400008T@mauve.mrochek.com>; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <01OLZK4VLFP800008T@mauve.mrochek.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:29:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Ned Freed In-reply-to: "Your message dated Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:08:35 +0100" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; Format=flowed References: <20121020152032.17505.55364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan_Kundr=E1t?= Cc: imapext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [imapext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-imapmove-command-02.txt X-BeenThere: imapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of IMAP extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:36:01 -0000 > > The QUOTA extension (defined by [RFC2087]) may interact with MOVE, on > > some servers, in the sense that a MOVE command may succeed where COPY > > would cause a quota overrun. This may be user-visible, but should > > not be MUA-visible. > Hi Arnt, it isn't clear to me what this paragraph actually means -- what's the difference between "MUA-visible" and user-visible? Irrespective of what it means or is intended to mean, I don't think commenting on MUA/user behavior is appropriate. I suggest deleting the sentence. Ned From tss@iki.fi Mon Oct 29 14:35:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C8821F86F9 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:35:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -109.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3jtXaPTvGSrM for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dovecot.org (dovecot.org [193.210.130.67]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C8221F86E7 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.10.101] (a88-112-255-76.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.112.255.76]) by dovecot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02E81AE880F for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:35:23 +0200 (EET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) From: Timo Sirainen In-Reply-To: <20121020152032.17505.55364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:35:29 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <578681E1-25F3-419C-83CA-1C607D57BDA0@iki.fi> References: <20121020152032.17505.55364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: imapext@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Subject: Re: [imapext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-imapmove-command-02.txt X-BeenThere: imapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of IMAP extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:35:26 -0000 > capability =/ "MOVE" > > command-select =/ move > move = "MOVE" SP sequence-set SP mailbox > uid = "UID" SP (copy / fetch / search / store / move) This is the only "problem" that I see. Whitespacing being a bit inconsistent. From ned.freed@mrochek.com Mon Oct 29 15:00:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7A821F86E5 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:00:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u4u9fdJBpc-0 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [66.59.230.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD4421F855A for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01OLZVGF5JS0000U3F@mauve.mrochek.com> for imapext@ietf.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01OLSVO3D2CW00008S@mauve.mrochek.com>; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <01OLZVGBZJ8K00008S@mauve.mrochek.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:55:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Ned Freed In-reply-to: "Your message dated Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:35:29 +0200" <578681E1-25F3-419C-83CA-1C607D57BDA0@iki.fi> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN References: <20121020152032.17505.55364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <578681E1-25F3-419C-83CA-1C607D57BDA0@iki.fi> To: Timo Sirainen Cc: imapext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [imapext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-imapmove-command-02.txt X-BeenThere: imapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of IMAP extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:00:37 -0000 > > capability =/ "MOVE" > > > > command-select =/ move > > move = "MOVE" SP sequence-set SP mailbox > > uid = "UID" SP (copy / fetch / search / store / move) > This is the only "problem" that I see. Whitespacing being a bit inconsistent. Consider it fixed. Ned From alexey.melnikov@isode.com Tue Oct 30 05:19:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: imapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458C721F857C for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:19:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OTgt9+BNyChb for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waldorf.isode.com (cl-125.lon-03.gb.sixxs.net [IPv6:2a00:14f0:e000:7c::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBB221F857D for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:19:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1351599566; d=isode.com; s=selector; i=@isode.com; bh=Ua7ll29/Tk5P68x5Ff99/2dhvGb+/P1bpP3VIZf8+zg=; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description; b=c8vV1uyOBAo1W113i0FETDQAml2dmuHe7OBWVDVC+bCKXIiC2m+AY9XtJo88pj25A+6TlF vFmlDFrxoVYPCdraDzKAV+7OpQQ2/9/wBh3cOMeZvtUclTcoRgoOZOuswj4OBgqc10sTiC JLT0qgs2VaAW7ik0PthIZ3lAPYU3r0c=; Received: from [172.16.1.29] (shiny.isode.com [62.3.217.250]) by waldorf.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPA id ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:19:25 +0000 Message-ID: <508FC5F3.1070905@isode.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:20:03 +0000 From: Alexey Melnikov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Kundr=E1t?= References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Cc: imapext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [imapext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-imapmove-command-02.txt X-BeenThere: imapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of IMAP extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:19:31 -0000 On 29/10/2012 14:08, Jan Kundr=E1t wrote: >> The QUOTA extension (defined by [RFC2087]) may interact with MOVE, on >> some servers, in the sense that a MOVE command may succeed where COPY >> would cause a quota overrun. This may be user-visible, but should >> not be MUA-visible. > > Hi Arnt, it isn't clear to me what this paragraph actually means --=20 > what's the difference between "MUA-visible" and user-visible? I am agreeing with you and Ned that removing the last quoted sentence is=20 the best way forward. > Apart from that, I don't see any errors in this draft. Good.