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Hello all,

I would like to formally conclude the WG last call for the FC over IPv6
draft.
The deadline for comments against this draft was Monday, Nov 24.


There were several comments against the draft. Each was discussed on the
mailing list and I believe a satisfactory resolution to each issue was
reached. Based on this, and in the absence of major issue against the draft,
I believe that the FC over IPv6 draft has completed working group last call
successfully.

The author of the draft, Claudio DeSanti, will produce a new draft with the
agreed to changes. The draft will be then made available for review to
insure the issues discussed during the last call period were addressed.  The
draft will then be forwarded on to the Area Directors for consideration by
the IESG for publication as a standards track document.

Thanks to all who reviewed the document and to those who submitted comments
against the document.

Elizabeth Rodriguez
IMSS chair

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I would appreciate a document that lists the comments
and resolutions as well, making it simpler to verify that
all concerns have been addressed.

Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com
> [mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:14 PM
> To: imss@ietf.org
> Subject: [imss] WG last call for FC over IPv6 complete
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I would like to formally conclude the WG last call for the FC 
> over IPv6
> draft.
> The deadline for comments against this draft was Monday, Nov 24.
> 
> 
> There were several comments against the draft. Each was 
> discussed on the
> mailing list and I believe a satisfactory resolution to each issue was
> reached. Based on this, and in the absence of major issue 
> against the draft,
> I believe that the FC over IPv6 draft has completed working 
> group last call
> successfully.
> 
> The author of the draft, Claudio DeSanti, will produce a new 
> draft with the
> agreed to changes. The draft will be then made available for review to
> insure the issues discussed during the last call period were 
> addressed.  The
> draft will then be forwarded on to the Area Directors for 
> consideration by
> the IESG for publication as a standards track document.
> 
> Thanks to all who reviewed the document and to those who 
> submitted comments
> against the document.
> 
> Elizabeth Rodriguez
> IMSS chair
> 
> _______________________________________________
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; The deadline for comments against this draft =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; The author of the draft, Claudio DeSanti, will =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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Bob, <br>
<br>
would a document listing the comments plus a differential version of the
draft be enough? <br>
I ask this because most comments have been editorial, and I believe it is
much easier to follow them in a document having new text in blue and
removed text in red, rather than in a document saying, as an example,
&quot;replaced word 'Introduction' with word 'Summary'&quot;, and so
on.<br>
Thanks, <br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Claudio.<br>
<br>
<br>
At 02:24 PM 12/1/2003 -0800, Robert Snively wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite><font size=2>I would appreciate a document
that lists the comments</font> <br>
<font size=2>and resolutions as well, making it simpler to verify
that</font> <br>
<font size=2>all concerns have been addressed.</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=2>Bob</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; From: elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt;
[<a href="mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com">mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com</a>]</font>
<br>
<font size=2>&gt; Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:14 PM</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; To: imss@ietf.org</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; Subject: [imss] WG last call for FC over IPv6
complete</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; Hello all,</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; I would like to formally conclude the WG last call for
the FC </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; over IPv6</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; draft.</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; The deadline for comments against this draft was
Monday, Nov 24.</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; There were several comments against the draft. Each was
</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; discussed on the</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; mailing list and I believe a satisfactory resolution to
each issue was</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; reached. Based on this, and in the absence of major
issue </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; against the draft,</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; I believe that the FC over IPv6 draft has completed
working </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; group last call</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; successfully.</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; The author of the draft, Claudio DeSanti, will produce
a new </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; draft with the</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; agreed to changes. The draft will be then made
available for review to</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; insure the issues discussed during the last call period
were </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; addressed.&nbsp; The</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; draft will then be forwarded on to the Area Directors
for </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; consideration by</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; the IESG for publication as a standards track
document.</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; Thanks to all who reviewed the document and to those
who </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; submitted comments</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; against the document.</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; Elizabeth Rodriguez</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; IMSS chair</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
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Bob,

there have been 2 technical comments and 19 editorial comments. I accepted 
all the editorial comments. I attach the list of comments, but I like also 
to review the technical ones, given that I received no feedback on the 
second one.


Technical comment n.1
(submitted by Pekka Savola, Bob Hinden, Fred Templin, Chirayu Patel)

Issue: The Fibre Channel default MTU is far larger than the usual Internet 
MTU. This may
create problems when accessing the Internet from a Fibre Channel network.

Resolution: Add the following text to section 5:

    As the default MTU size far exceeds the message sizes typically used
    in the Internet, an IPv6 over FC implementation SHOULD implement Path
    MTU Discovery [PMTUD], or at least maintain different MTU values for
    on-link and off-link destinations.

    For correct operation in a routed environment, it is critically
    important to configure an appropriate MTU option in Router
    Advertisements.

    For correct operation when mixed media are bridged together, the
    smallest MTU of all the media must be advertised by routers in an MTU
    option. If there are no routers present, this MTU must be manually
    configured in each node which is connected to a medium with a default
    MTU larger than the smallest MTU.


-----

Technical Comment n.2
(submitted by Claudio DeSanti)

Issue: the Source/Target Link-layer address option of Neighbor Discovery 
has currently the
following format:

     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |     Type      |  Length = 2   |           Reserved            |
     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
     |                                                               |
     +-                         N_Port_Name                         -+
     |                                                               |
     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
     |                   N_Port_ID                   |   Reserved    |
     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+

Swapping in the last word the N_Port_ID and Reserved fields results in a 
format more
similar to what is currently used in other Fibre Channel specifications:

     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |     Type      |  Length = 2   |           Reserved            |
     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
     |                                                               |
     +-                         N_Port_Name                         -+
     |                                                               |
     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
     |   Reserved    |                   N_Port_ID                   |
     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+

Resolution: no feedback yet.

I would like to receive feedback on this proposal.
Thanks,

                              Claudio.


At 02:24 PM 12/1/2003 -0800, Robert Snively wrote:

>I would appreciate a document that lists the comments
>and resolutions as well, making it simpler to verify that
>all concerns have been addressed.
>Bob
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com
> > 
> [<mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com>mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com] 
>
> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:14 PM
> > To: imss@ietf.org
> > Subject: [imss] WG last call for FC over IPv6 complete
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I would like to formally conclude the WG last call for the FC
> > over IPv6
> > draft.
> > The deadline for comments against this draft was Monday, Nov 24.
> >
> >
> > There were several comments against the draft. Each was
> > discussed on the
> > mailing list and I believe a satisfactory resolution to each issue was
> > reached. Based on this, and in the absence of major issue
> > against the draft,
> > I believe that the FC over IPv6 draft has completed working
> > group last call
> > successfully.
> >
> > The author of the draft, Claudio DeSanti, will produce a new
> > draft with the
> > agreed to changes. The draft will be then made available for review to
> > insure the issues discussed during the last call period were
> > addressed.  The
> > draft will then be forwarded on to the Area Directors for
> > consideration by
> > the IESG for publication as a standards track document.
> >
> > Thanks to all who reviewed the document and to those who
> > submitted comments
> > against the document.
> >
> > Elizabeth Rodriguez
> > IMSS chair
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > imss mailing list
> > imss@ietf.org
> > 
> <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imss>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imss 
>
> >

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<html>
Bob, <br>
<br>
there have been 2 technical comments and 19 editorial comments. I
accepted all the editorial comments. I attach the list of comments, but I
like also to review the technical ones, given that I received no feedback
on the second one. <br>
<br>
<br>
Technical comment n.1 <br>
(submitted by Pekka Savola, Bob Hinden, Fred Templin, Chirayu 
Patel)<br>
<br>
Issue: The Fibre Channel default MTU is far larger than the usual
Internet MTU. This may<br>
create problems when accessing the Internet from a Fibre Channel network.
<br>
<br>
Resolution: Add the following text to section 5: <br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; As the default MTU size far exceeds the message sizes
typically used<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; in the Internet, an IPv6 over FC implementation SHOULD
implement Path<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; MTU Discovery [PMTUD], or at least maintain different MTU
values for<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; on-link and off-link destinations.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; For correct operation in a routed environment, it is
critically<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; important to configure an appropriate MTU option in
Router<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Advertisements.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; For correct operation when mixed media are bridged together,
the<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; smallest MTU of all the media must be advertised by routers
in an MTU<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; option. If there are no routers present, this MTU must be
manually<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; configured in each node which is connected to a medium with
a default<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; MTU larger than the smallest MTU.<br>
<br>
<br>
-----<br>
<br>
Technical Comment n.2 <br>
(submitted by Claudio DeSanti)<br>
<br>
Issue: the Source/Target Link-layer address option of Neighbor Discovery
has currently the <br>
following format: <br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Type&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp; Length = 2&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
N_Port_Name&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-+<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
N_Port_ID&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<br>
<br>
Swapping in the last word the N_Port_ID and Reserved fields results in a
format more <br>
similar to what is currently used in other Fibre Channel specifications:
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Type&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp; Length = 2&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
N_Port_Name&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-+<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
N_Port_ID&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<br>
<br>
Resolution: no feedback yet.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
I would like to receive feedback on this proposal. <br>
Thanks, <br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Claudio. <br>
<br>
<br>
At 02:24 PM 12/1/2003 -0800, Robert Snively wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite><font size=2>I would appreciate a document
that lists the comments</font> <br>
<font size=2>and resolutions as well, making it simpler to verify
that</font> <br>
<font size=2>all concerns have been addressed.</font> <br>
<font size=2>Bob</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; From: elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt;
[<a href="mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com">mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com</a>]</font>
<br>
<font size=2>&gt; Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:14 PM</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; To: imss@ietf.org</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; Subject: [imss] WG last call for FC over IPv6
complete</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; Hello all,</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; I would like to formally conclude the WG last call for
the FC </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; over IPv6</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; draft.</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; The deadline for comments against this draft was
Monday, Nov 24.</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; There were several comments against the draft. Each was
</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; discussed on the</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; mailing list and I believe a satisfactory resolution to
each issue was</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; reached. Based on this, and in the absence of major
issue </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; against the draft,</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; I believe that the FC over IPv6 draft has completed
working </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; group last call</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; successfully.</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; The author of the draft, Claudio DeSanti, will produce
a new </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; draft with the</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; agreed to changes. The draft will be then made
available for review to</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; insure the issues discussed during the last call period
were </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; addressed.&nbsp; The</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; draft will then be forwarded on to the Area Directors
for </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; consideration by</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; the IESG for publication as a standards track
document.</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; Thanks to all who reviewed the document and to those
who </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; submitted comments</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; against the document.</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; Elizabeth Rodriguez</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; IMSS chair</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; </font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; _______________________________________________</font>
<br>
<font size=2>&gt; imss mailing list</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; imss@ietf.org</font> <br>
<font size=2>&gt; <a href="https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imss">https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imss</a></font> <br>
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Technical comment n.1 
(submitted by Pekka Savola, Bob Hinden, Fred Templin, Chirayu Patel)

Issue: The Fibre Channel default MTU is far larger than the usual Internet MTU. This may create issues when accessing the Internet from a Fibre Channel network. 

Resolution: Add the following text to section 5. 

   As the default MTU size far exceeds the message sizes typically used
   in the Internet, an IPv6 over FC implementation SHOULD implement Path
   MTU Discovery [PMTUD], or at least maintain different MTU values for
   on-link and off-link destinations.

   For correct operation in a routed environment, it is critically
   important to configure an appropriate MTU option in Router
   Advertisements.

   For correct operation when mixed media are bridged together, the
   smallest MTU of all the media must be advertised by routers in an MTU
   option. If there are no routers present, this MTU must be manually
   configured in each node which is connected to a medium with a default
   MTU larger than the smallest MTU.


-----

Technical Comment n.2 
(submitted by Claudio DeSanti)

Issue: the Source/Target Link-layer address option of Neighbor Discovery has currently the following format: 

    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |     Type      |  Length = 2   |           Reserved            |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |                                                               |
    +-                         N_Port_Name                         -+
    |                                                               |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |                   N_Port_ID                   |   Reserved    |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+

Swapping in the last word the N_Port_ID and Reserved fields may result in a format more similar to what is currently used in other Fibre Channel specifications: 

    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |     Type      |  Length = 2   |           Reserved            |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |                                                               |
    +-                         N_Port_Name                         -+
    |                                                               |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |   Reserved    |                   N_Port_ID                   |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+

Resolution: no feedback yet. 



--------------

Editorial Comments (all accepted or clarified)


1 ==> Introduction is pretty much identical to the abstract. This is typically considered 
a bad idea, and shows that either Abstract or Introduction has not been fully utilized 
and properly written.


2 ==> - The format of its N_Port_Name MUST be one of 0x1, 0x2, 0x5, 0xC,
        0xD, 0xE, 0xF. Other Name_Identifier formats are not acceptable to
        support IPv6;

reword to:

      - The format of its N_Port_Name MUST be one of 0x1, 0x2, 0x5, 0xC,
        0xD, 0xE, 0xF. IPv6 support for other Name_Identifier formats is 
        outside the scope of this specification.


3 ==> the doc is not clear (at least to someone not well versed with FC)
what Information Unit refers to


4 ==> should maybe specify that Reserved fields MUST be zero when
transmitting, and MUST be ignored when receiving (the typical MBZ
rule) ?


5 ==> Receiving an FC Sequence carrying an IPv6 multicast packet MAY
      trigger some additional processing by the Nx_Port if that IPv6 packet
      requires a reply. In this case, if a valid Port Login to the Nx_Port
      that sent the IPv6 multicast packet does not exist, the Nx_Port MUST
      perform such a Port Login, and then use it for the unicast IPv6
      reply. In the case of Neighbor Discovery messages [DISC], the 
      N_Port_ID to which the Port Login is directed is taken from the    
      N_Port_ID field of the Source/Target Link-layer Address option. 

Is it needed to specify "unicast" here?  Isn't it at least
theoretically possible that you'd receive a multicast packet, and want
to reply with a multicast packet of your own?  


6 ==> ID-nits: no references in the abstract, please.


7 ==> maybe reword the title to: "Transmission of IPv6 Packets over Fibre
Channel"  (more similar to other IPv6-over-FOO document names) ?


8 ==> The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
      "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
      document are to be interpreted as described in [KEYWORDS].

I'd put that at the end of the Introduction section; that's where
it normally resides.


9 ==> Warning to readers familiar with Fibre Channel: both Fibre Channel
      and IETF standards use the same byte transmission order. However, the
      bit numbering is different. See Appendix C for guidance.

I'd rather place this in the Introduction.


10 ==> - F_CTL, SEQ_ID, SEQ_CNT, OX_ID, RX_ID: see section 10, section 11,
       and [FC-FS] for additional requirements.

D_ID, S_ID, and Parameter were not described here. 


11 ==>   Claudio DeSanti

s/Claudio/C./ (that's just a convention, the same at the bottom of 
each page :-)


12 ==> transmission words that act as frame delimiters. The CRC is 4-octets

s/4-/4 /


13 ==> The FC Header is 24-octets long and contains several fields

s/24-/24 /


14 ==> ordering, that corresponds to the standard network byte order or

s/,// (or use "which", typically don't use comma before "that")


15 ==> Stateless Autoconfiguration

s/Auto/Address Auto/ (similar elsewhere; the formal name is 
"stateless address autoconfiguration")


16 ==> Generating an Interface ID from a EUI-64 mapped N_Port_Name

s/a EUI-64/an EUI-64/ (similar elsewhere)


17 ==> An Exchange Responder is not required to assign RX_IDs. If a RX_ID of

s/a RX_ID/an RX_ID/ (similar elsewhere?)


18 ==> The Exchange Originator MAY terminate Exchanges by setting the F_CTL
       LS bit [FC-FS]. Exchanges MAY be torn down by the Exchange Originator
       or Exchange Responder by using the ABTS protocol. IPv6 Exchanges
 
spell out ABTS, maybe refer to it (the only time the term is used 
in this document)


19 ==> From an IPv6 point of view, a Fibre Channel network, built with any 
       combination of the FC topologies described above, is an IPv6 Link 
       [IPv6] connecting any IPv6-capable Nx_Port acting as an IPv6 
       Interface.

reword to: 

       From an IPv6 point of view, a Fibre Channel network, built with any
       combination of the FC topologies described above, is an IPv6 Link
       [IPv6]. IPv6-capable Nx_Ports are what [IPv6] calls Interfaces.


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I am a bit unclear about the resolution of editorial comment #5:
 
5 ==> Receiving an FC Sequence carrying an IPv6 multicast packet MAY
      trigger some additional processing by the Nx_Port if that IPv6 packet
      requires a reply. In this case, if a valid Port Login to the Nx_Port
      that sent the IPv6 multicast packet does not exist, the Nx_Port MUST
      perform such a Port Login, and then use it for the unicast IPv6
      reply. In the case of Neighbor Discovery messages [DISC], the 
      N_Port_ID to which the Port Login is directed is taken from the    
      N_Port_ID field of the Source/Target Link-layer Address option. 
 
Is it needed to specify "unicast" here?  Isn't it at least
theoretically possible that you'd receive a multicast packet, and want
to reply with a multicast packet of your own?  
 
As for your second technical comment, I personally believe that
you are correct and that the new format you propose is better.
However, I do not know if there are any IPv6 ramifications that
must be addressed.  
Robert Snively 

Brocade Communications Systems, Inc. 
1745 Technology Drive 
San Jose, CA 95110 

+1 408 333 8135 
rsnively@brocade.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Claudio DeSanti [mailto:cds@andiamo.com]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:18 PM
To: Robert Snively
Cc: 'elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com'; imss@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [imss] WG last call for FC over IPv6 complete


Bob, 

there have been 2 technical comments and 19 editorial comments. I accepted
all the editorial comments. I attach the list of comments, but I like also
to review the technical ones, given that I received no feedback on the
second one. 


Technical comment n.1 
(submitted by Pekka Savola, Bob Hinden, Fred Templin, Chirayu Patel)

Issue: The Fibre Channel default MTU is far larger than the usual Internet
MTU. This may
create problems when accessing the Internet from a Fibre Channel network. 

Resolution: Add the following text to section 5: 

   As the default MTU size far exceeds the message sizes typically used
   in the Internet, an IPv6 over FC implementation SHOULD implement Path
   MTU Discovery [PMTUD], or at least maintain different MTU values for
   on-link and off-link destinations.

   For correct operation in a routed environment, it is critically
   important to configure an appropriate MTU option in Router
   Advertisements.

   For correct operation when mixed media are bridged together, the
   smallest MTU of all the media must be advertised by routers in an MTU
   option. If there are no routers present, this MTU must be manually
   configured in each node which is connected to a medium with a default
   MTU larger than the smallest MTU.


-----

Technical Comment n.2 
(submitted by Claudio DeSanti)

Issue: the Source/Target Link-layer address option of Neighbor Discovery has
currently the 
following format: 

    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |     Type      |  Length = 2   |           Reserved            |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |                                                               |
    +-                         N_Port_Name                         -+
    |                                                               |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |                   N_Port_ID                   |   Reserved    |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+

Swapping in the last word the N_Port_ID and Reserved fields results in a
format more 
similar to what is currently used in other Fibre Channel specifications: 

    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |     Type      |  Length = 2   |           Reserved            |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |                                                               |
    +-                         N_Port_Name                         -+
    |                                                               |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |   Reserved    |                   N_Port_ID                   |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+

Resolution: no feedback yet.  

I would like to receive feedback on this proposal. 
Thanks, 

                             Claudio. 


At 02:24 PM 12/1/2003 -0800, Robert Snively wrote:



I would appreciate a document that lists the comments 
and resolutions as well, making it simpler to verify that 
all concerns have been addressed. 
Bob 

> -----Original Message----- 
> From: elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com 
> [ mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com
<mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com> ] 
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:14 PM 
> To: imss@ietf.org 
> Subject: [imss] WG last call for FC over IPv6 complete 
> 
> 
> Hello all, 
> 
> I would like to formally conclude the WG last call for the FC 
> over IPv6 
> draft. 
> The deadline for comments against this draft was Monday, Nov 24. 
> 
> 
> There were several comments against the draft. Each was 
> discussed on the 
> mailing list and I believe a satisfactory resolution to each issue was 
> reached. Based on this, and in the absence of major issue 
> against the draft, 
> I believe that the FC over IPv6 draft has completed working 
> group last call 
> successfully. 
> 
> The author of the draft, Claudio DeSanti, will produce a new 
> draft with the 
> agreed to changes. The draft will be then made available for review to 
> insure the issues discussed during the last call period were 
> addressed.  The 
> draft will then be forwarded on to the Area Directors for 
> consideration by 
> the IESG for publication as a standards track document. 
> 
> Thanks to all who reviewed the document and to those who 
> submitted comments 
> against the document. 
> 
> Elizabeth Rodriguez 
> IMSS chair 
> 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=035455615-02122003>I am a 
bit unclear about the resolution of editorial comment #5:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=035455615-02122003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=035455615-02122003>5 ==&gt; Receiving 
an FC Sequence carrying an IPv6 multicast packet 
MAY<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; trigger some additional processing by the 
Nx_Port if that IPv6 packet<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; requires a reply. 
In this case, if a valid Port Login to the 
Nx_Port<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that sent the IPv6 multicast packet 
does not exist, the Nx_Port MUST<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; perform such 
a Port Login, and then use it for the unicast 
IPv6<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; reply. In the case of Neighbor Discovery 
messages [DISC], the <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; N_Port_ID to which the 
Port Login is directed is taken from the&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; N_Port_ID field of the Source/Target 
Link-layer Address option. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=035455615-02122003>Is it needed to 
specify "unicast" here?&nbsp; Isn't it at least<BR>theoretically possible that 
you'd receive a multicast packet, and want<BR>to reply with a multicast packet 
of your own?&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=035455615-02122003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=035455615-02122003>As for 
your second technical comment, I personally believe that</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=035455615-02122003>you 
are correct and that the new format you propose is better.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=035455615-02122003>However, I do not know if there are any IPv6 
ramifications that</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=035455615-02122003>must 
be addressed.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=035455615-02122003>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Robert Snively</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brocade Communications Systems, Inc.</FONT> <BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>1745 Technology Drive</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>San 
Jose, CA 95110</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>+1 408 333 8135</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>rsnively@brocade.com </FONT></P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Claudio DeSanti 
  [mailto:cds@andiamo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 01, 2003 6:18 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Robert Snively<BR><B>Cc:</B> 
  'elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com'; imss@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [imss] 
  WG last call for FC over IPv6 complete<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Bob, <BR><BR>there 
  have been 2 technical comments and 19 editorial comments. I accepted all the 
  editorial comments. I attach the list of comments, but I like also to review 
  the technical ones, given that I received no feedback on the second one. 
  <BR><BR><BR>Technical comment n.1 <BR>(submitted by Pekka Savola, Bob Hinden, 
  Fred Templin, Chirayu Patel)<BR><BR>Issue: The Fibre Channel default MTU is 
  far larger than the usual Internet MTU. This may<BR>create problems when 
  accessing the Internet from a Fibre Channel network. <BR><BR>Resolution: Add 
  the following text to section 5: <BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; As the default MTU size 
  far exceeds the message sizes typically used<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; in the Internet, 
  an IPv6 over FC implementation SHOULD implement Path<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; MTU 
  Discovery [PMTUD], or at least maintain different MTU values 
  for<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; on-link and off-link destinations.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; For 
  correct operation in a routed environment, it is critically<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  important to configure an appropriate MTU option in Router<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Advertisements.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; For correct operation when mixed media are 
  bridged together, the<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; smallest MTU of all the media must be 
  advertised by routers in an MTU<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; option. If there are no 
  routers present, this MTU must be manually<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; configured in each 
  node which is connected to a medium with a default<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; MTU larger 
  than the smallest MTU.<BR><BR><BR>-----<BR><BR>Technical Comment n.2 
  <BR>(submitted by Claudio DeSanti)<BR><BR>Issue: the Source/Target Link-layer 
  address option of Neighbor Discovery has currently the <BR>following format: 
  <BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp; Length = 
  2&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  +-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  N_Port_Name&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  -+<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  N_Port_ID&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |&nbsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<BR><BR>Swapping 
  in the last word the N_Port_ID and Reserved fields results in a format more 
  <BR>similar to what is currently used in other Fibre Channel specifications: 
  <BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp; Length = 
  2&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  +-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  N_Port_Name&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  -+<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |&nbsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  N_Port_ID&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  |<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<BR><BR>Resolution: 
  no feedback yet.&nbsp; <BR><BR>I would like to receive feedback on this 
  proposal. <BR>Thanks, 
  <BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Claudio. <BR><BR><BR>At 02:24 PM 12/1/2003 -0800, Robert Snively 
wrote:<BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=2>I would appreciate a document 
    that lists the comments</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>and resolutions as well, 
    making it simpler to verify that</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>all concerns have 
    been addressed.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Bob</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; 
    -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; From: 
    elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; [<A 
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    <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; To: imss@ietf.org</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; 
    Subject: [imss] WG last call for FC over IPv6 complete</FONT> <BR><FONT 
    size=2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; Hello 
    all,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; I would like 
    to formally conclude the WG last call for the FC </FONT><BR><FONT 
    size=2>&gt; over IPv6</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; draft.</FONT> <BR><FONT 
    size=2>&gt; The deadline for comments against this draft was Monday, Nov 
    24.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; 
    </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; There were several comments against the draft. 
    Each was </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; discussed on the</FONT> <BR><FONT 
    size=2>&gt; mailing list and I believe a satisfactory resolution to each 
    issue was</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; reached. Based on this, and in the 
    absence of major issue </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; against the 
    draft,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; I believe that the FC over IPv6 draft 
    has completed working </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; group last call</FONT> 
    <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; successfully.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; 
    </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; The author of the draft, Claudio DeSanti, will 
    produce a new </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; draft with the</FONT> <BR><FONT 
    size=2>&gt; agreed to changes. The draft will be then made available for 
    review to</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; insure the issues discussed during 
    the last call period were </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; addressed.&nbsp; 
    The</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; draft will then be forwarded on to the Area 
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    size=2>&gt; the IESG for publication as a standards track document.</FONT> 
    <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; Thanks to all who 
    reviewed the document and to those who </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; 
    submitted comments</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; against the document.</FONT> 
    <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; Elizabeth 
    Rodriguez</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; IMSS chair</FONT> <BR><FONT 
    size=2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>&gt; 
    _______________________________________________</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&gt; 
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Cluadio, Elizabeth,

In a previous e-mail Cluadio made the following recommendation.  This
should be included in the final draft since this is the way all Fibre
Channel N_Port ID fields are specified.

...

   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |     Type      |  Length =3D 2   |           Reserved            |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |                                                               |
    +-                         N_Port_Name                         -+
    |                                                               |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |                   N_Port_ID                   |   Reserved    |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+

=3D=3D> should maybe specify that Reserved fields MUST be zero when
transmitting, and MUST be ignored when receiving (the typical MBZ
rule) ?

Ok.
Additionally, I recently noticed that swapping the last reserved field
with the N_Port_ID field could slightly facilitate the processing in 32
bit processors, because the N_Port_ID field would be in the "right"
place to directly load the word in a register. The option would be as
follows:

    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |     Type      |  Length =3D 2   |           Reserved            |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |                                                               |
    +-                         N_Port_Name                         -+
    |                                                               |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
    |   Reserved    |                   N_Port_ID                   |
    +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+

Any comment on this idea?

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Hi Bob,

the resolution of editorial comment 5 has been to add the following 
sentence to the paragraph:

       If a received broadcast FC Sequence carries an IPv6 multicast
       solicitation message [DISC] requiring a multicast reply, the reply
       is sent to the broadcast N_Port_ID 0xFF-FF-FF.

I uploaded the comment resolution document and a differential IPv6 over FC 
spec. on the T11 web site. The two documents are accessible via the 
following URLs:

Comment resolution document: http://www.t11.org/t11/docreg.nsf/ufile/03-780v0
Differential IPv6 over FC spec: 
http://www.t11.org/t11/docreg.nsf/ufile/03-181v4

Pekka Savola already reviewed the differential spec., and he is fine with 
the resolutions.
I will release the final revision by the end of the week.

Thanks,

                               Claudio.



At 08:04 AM 12/2/2003 -0800, Robert Snively wrote:
>I am a bit unclear about the resolution of editorial comment #5:
>
>5 ==> Receiving an FC Sequence carrying an IPv6 multicast packet MAY
>       trigger some additional processing by the Nx_Port if that IPv6 packet
>       requires a reply. In this case, if a valid Port Login to the Nx_Port
>       that sent the IPv6 multicast packet does not exist, the Nx_Port MUST
>       perform such a Port Login, and then use it for the unicast IPv6
>       reply. In the case of Neighbor Discovery messages [DISC], the
>       N_Port_ID to which the Port Login is directed is taken from the
>       N_Port_ID field of the Source/Target Link-layer Address option.
>
>Is it needed to specify "unicast" here?  Isn't it at least
>theoretically possible that you'd receive a multicast packet, and want
>to reply with a multicast packet of your own?
>
>As for your second technical comment, I personally believe that
>you are correct and that the new format you propose is better.
>However, I do not know if there are any IPv6 ramifications that
>must be addressed.
>
>Robert Snively
>
>Brocade Communications Systems, Inc.
>1745 Technology Drive
>San Jose, CA 95110
>
>+1 408 333 8135
>rsnively@brocade.com
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Claudio DeSanti [mailto:cds@andiamo.com]
>Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:18 PM
>To: Robert Snively
>Cc: 'elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com'; imss@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: [imss] WG last call for FC over IPv6 complete
>
>Bob,
>
>there have been 2 technical comments and 19 editorial comments. I accepted 
>all the editorial comments. I attach the list of comments, but I like also 
>to review the technical ones, given that I received no feedback on the 
>second one.
>
>
>
>Technical comment n.1
>(submitted by Pekka Savola, Bob Hinden, Fred Templin, Chirayu Patel)
>
>Issue: The Fibre Channel default MTU is far larger than the usual Internet 
>MTU. This may
>create problems when accessing the Internet from a Fibre Channel network.
>
>Resolution: Add the following text to section 5:
>
>    As the default MTU size far exceeds the message sizes typically used
>    in the Internet, an IPv6 over FC implementation SHOULD implement Path
>    MTU Discovery [PMTUD], or at least maintain different MTU values for
>    on-link and off-link destinations.
>
>    For correct operation in a routed environment, it is critically
>    important to configure an appropriate MTU option in Router
>    Advertisements.
>
>    For correct operation when mixed media are bridged together, the
>    smallest MTU of all the media must be advertised by routers in an MTU
>    option. If there are no routers present, this MTU must be manually
>    configured in each node which is connected to a medium with a default
>    MTU larger than the smallest MTU.
>
>
>
>-----
>
>Technical Comment n.2
>(submitted by Claudio DeSanti)
>
>Issue: the Source/Target Link-layer address option of Neighbor Discovery 
>has currently the
>following format:
>
>     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>     |     Type      |  Length = 2   |           Reserved            |
>     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
>     |                                                               |
>     +-                         N_Port_Name                         -+
>     |                                                               |
>     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
>     |                   N_Port_ID                   |   Reserved    |
>     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
>
>Swapping in the last word the N_Port_ID and Reserved fields results in a 
>format more
>similar to what is currently used in other Fibre Channel specifications:
>
>     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>     |     Type      |  Length = 2   |           Reserved            |
>     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
>     |                                                               |
>     +-                         N_Port_Name                         -+
>     |                                                               |
>     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
>     |   Reserved    |                   N_Port_ID                   |
>     +---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
>
>Resolution: no feedback yet.
>
>I would like to receive feedback on this proposal.
>Thanks,
>
>                              Claudio.
>
>
>
>At 02:24 PM 12/1/2003 -0800, Robert Snively wrote:
>
>>I would appreciate a document that lists the comments
>>and resolutions as well, making it simpler to verify that
>>all concerns have been addressed.
>>Bob
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com
>> > 
>> [<mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com>mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com] 
>>
>> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:14 PM
>> > To: imss@ietf.org
>> > Subject: [imss] WG last call for FC over IPv6 complete
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I would like to formally conclude the WG last call for the FC
>> > over IPv6
>> > draft.
>> > The deadline for comments against this draft was Monday, Nov 24.
>> >
>> >
>> > There were several comments against the draft. Each was
>> > discussed on the
>> > mailing list and I believe a satisfactory resolution to each issue was
>> > reached. Based on this, and in the absence of major issue
>> > against the draft,
>> > I believe that the FC over IPv6 draft has completed working
>> > group last call
>> > successfully.
>> >
>> > The author of the draft, Claudio DeSanti, will produce a new
>> > draft with the
>> > agreed to changes. The draft will be then made available for review to
>> > insure the issues discussed during the last call period were
>> > addressed.  The
>> > draft will then be forwarded on to the Area Directors for
>> > consideration by
>> > the IESG for publication as a standards track document.
>> >
>> > Thanks to all who reviewed the document and to those who
>> > submitted comments
>> > against the document.
>> >
>> > Elizabeth Rodriguez
>> > IMSS chair
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > imss mailing list
>> > imss@ietf.org
>> > 
>> <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imss>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imss 
>>
>> >

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<html>
Hi Bob, <br>
<br>
the resolution of editorial comment 5 has been to add the following
sentence to the paragraph: <br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If a received broadcast FC Sequence
carries an IPv6 multicast <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; solicitation message [DISC] requiring a
multicast reply, the reply <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is sent to the broadcast N_Port_ID
0xFF-FF-FF.<br>
<br>
I uploaded the comment resolution document and a differential IPv6 over
FC spec. on the T11 web site. The two documents are accessible via the
following URLs:<br>
<br>
Comment resolution document:
<a href="http://www.t11.org/t11/docreg.nsf/ufile/03-780v0" eudora="autourl">http://www.t11.org/t11/docreg.nsf/ufile/03-780v0</a><br>
Differential IPv6 over FC spec:
<a href="http://www.t11.org/t11/docreg.nsf/ufile/03-181v4" eudora="autourl">http://www.t11.org/t11/docreg.nsf/ufile/03-</a><a href="http://www.t11.org/t11/docreg.nsf/ufile/03-181v4" eudora="autourl">181v4<br>
<br>
</a>Pekka Savola already reviewed the differential spec., and he is fine
with the resolutions. <br>
I will release the final revision by the end of the week. <br>
<br>
Thanks, <br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Claudio.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
At 08:04 AM 12/2/2003 -0800, Robert Snively wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">I am
a bit unclear about the resolution of editorial comment #5:</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>5 ==&gt; Receiving an FC Sequence carrying an
IPv6 multicast packet MAY<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; trigger some additional processing by the
Nx_Port if that IPv6 packet<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; requires a reply. In this case, if a valid
Port Login to the Nx_Port<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that sent the IPv6 multicast packet does
not exist, the Nx_Port MUST<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; perform such a Port Login, and then use it
for the unicast IPv6<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; reply. In the case of Neighbor Discovery
messages [DISC], the <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; N_Port_ID to which the Port Login is
directed is taken from the&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; N_Port_ID field of the Source/Target
Link-layer Address option. </font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Is it needed to specify &quot;unicast&quot;
here?&nbsp; Isn't it at least<br>
theoretically possible that you'd receive a multicast packet, and
want<br>
to reply with a multicast packet of your own?&nbsp; </font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">As for your second technical
comment, I personally believe that</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">you are correct and that the
new format you propose is better.</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">However, I do not know if there
are any IPv6 ramifications that</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">must be addressed.&nbsp;
</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF"><br>
Robert Snively <br>
<br>
Brocade Communications Systems, Inc. <br>
1745 Technology Drive <br>
San Jose, CA 95110 <br>
<br>
+1 408 333 8135 <br>
rsnively@brocade.com </font>
<dl><font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From:</b> Claudio DeSanti
[<a href="mailto:cds@andiamo.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:cds@andiamo.com</a>]
<dd>Sent:</b> Monday, December 01, 2003 6:18 PM
<dd>To:</b> Robert Snively
<dd>Cc:</b> 'elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com'; imss@ietf.org
<dd>Subject:</b> RE: [imss] WG last call for FC over IPv6 complete<br>
<br>
</font>
<dd>Bob, <br>
<br>

<dd>there have been 2 technical comments and 19 editorial comments. I
accepted all the editorial comments. I attach the list of comments, but I
like also to review the technical ones, given that I received no feedback
on the second one. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>

<dd>Technical comment n.1 
<dd>(submitted by Pekka Savola, Bob Hinden, Fred Templin, Chirayu
Patel)<br>
<br>

<dd>Issue: The Fibre Channel default MTU is far larger than the usual
Internet MTU. This may
<dd>create problems when accessing the Internet from a Fibre Channel
network. <br>
<br>

<dd>Resolution: Add the following text to section 5: <br>
<br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; As the default MTU size far exceeds the message sizes
typically used
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; in the Internet, an IPv6 over FC implementation SHOULD
implement Path
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; MTU Discovery [PMTUD], or at least maintain different
MTU values for
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; on-link and off-link destinations.<br>
<br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; For correct operation in a routed environment, it is
critically
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; important to configure an appropriate MTU option in
Router
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; Advertisements.<br>
<br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; For correct operation when mixed media are bridged
together, the
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; smallest MTU of all the media must be advertised by
routers in an MTU
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; option. If there are no routers present, this MTU must
be manually
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; configured in each node which is connected to a medium
with a default
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; MTU larger than the smallest MTU.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>

<dd>-----<br>
<br>

<dd>Technical Comment n.2 
<dd>(submitted by Claudio DeSanti)<br>
<br>

<dd>Issue: the Source/Target Link-layer address option of Neighbor
Discovery has currently the 
<dd>following format: <br>
<br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Type&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp; Length = 2&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
N_Port_Name&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-+
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
N_Port_ID&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<br>
<br>

<dd>Swapping in the last word the N_Port_ID and Reserved fields results
in a format more 
<dd>similar to what is currently used in other Fibre Channel
specifications: <br>
<br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Type&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp; Length = 2&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
N_Port_Name&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-+
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
N_Port_ID&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+---------------+---------------+---------------+---------------+<br>
<br>

<dd>Resolution: no feedback yet.&nbsp; <br>
<br>

<dd>I would like to receive feedback on this proposal. 
<dd>Thanks, <br>
<br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Claudio. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>

<dd>At 02:24 PM 12/1/2003 -0800, Robert Snively wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite><font size=2>
<dd>I would appreciate a document that lists the comments</font>
<font size=2>
<dd>and resolutions as well, making it simpler to verify that</font> <font size=2>
<dd>all concerns have been addressed.</font> <font size=2>
<dd>Bob</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=2>
<dd>&gt; -----Original Message-----</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; From: elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; [<a href="mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com">mailto:elizabeth.rodriguez@dothill.com</a>]</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:14 PM</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; To: imss@ietf.org</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; Subject: [imss] WG last call for FC over IPv6 complete</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; Hello all,</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; I would like to formally conclude the WG last call for the FC </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; over IPv6</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; draft.</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; The deadline for comments against this draft was Monday, Nov 24.</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; There were several comments against the draft. Each was </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; discussed on the</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; mailing list and I believe a satisfactory resolution to each issue was</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; reached. Based on this, and in the absence of major issue </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; against the draft,</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; I believe that the FC over IPv6 draft has completed working </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; group last call</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; successfully.</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; The author of the draft, Claudio DeSanti, will produce a new </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; draft with the</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; agreed to changes. The draft will be then made available for review to</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; insure the issues discussed during the last call period were </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; addressed.&nbsp; The</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; draft will then be forwarded on to the Area Directors for </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; consideration by</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; the IESG for publication as a standards track document.</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; Thanks to all who reviewed the document and to those who </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; submitted comments</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; against the document.</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; Elizabeth Rodriguez</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; IMSS chair</font> <font size=2>
<dd>&gt; </font><font size=2>
<dd>&gt; _______________________________________________</font> <font size=2>
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Hello all,

The revised IPv6 over FC draft that addresses WG last call comments is
available.
In addition to the txt version made available at 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-imss-ipv6-over-fibre-channel-
01.txt, 
Claudio has also made available a comment resolution document at
ftp://ftp.t11.org/t11/pub/fc/ipv6fc/03-780v0.txt
and a PDF version of the document with change bars at
ftp://ftp.t11.org/t11/pub/fc/ipv6fc/03-181v4.pdf.

Anyone who has made WG last call comments against the draft is requested to
review the draft to insure that their comments were addressed and resolved
as agreed to on the mailing list.  Please submit any feedback to the list no
later than Dec 19th.

Thanks,

Elizabeth Rodriguez


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	Title		: Transmission of IPv6 Packets over Fibre Channel
	Author(s)	: C. Desanti
	Filename	: draft-ietf-imss-ipv6-over-fibre-channel-01.txt
	Pages		: 24
	Date		: 2003-12-4
	
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