From nobody Tue Apr 5 19:36:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7796312D674 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 19:36:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3BGzZg6N6SME for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 19:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-2.cisco.com (alln-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.142.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C42E112D56C for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 19:36:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5306; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1459910173; x=1461119773; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=P1lPla1QZQ2ThtIdrJAqsvEDHuzkgJMs3ZN3FMCzotw=; b=dMcQOPjqZCaAb30G0YPWzMskJQ6ICdot0c+a7Zq7DMiUd5/yP3uXgLPp 32q6tCCA+BeD/AY6dYQcuPitoq/SsT+asHloQ/569uiEFiS79KcxZEOAP ulfVgPLVofMwFfvAmw3uc6hxkxe8GuUD+BVyX5qBpriONW5UQPvfYZs7N 8=; X-Files: signature.asc : 842 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DnAgDedARX/5NdJa1cgzeBVrs2DoFyh?= =?us-ascii?q?g0CgUY4FAEBAQEBAQFlJ4RCAQEDASNWBQsCAQhCAgIyJQEBBA4TiBEIrliRbQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQ0IhiCBdQiBTIEChz8rgisFmAEBgyKBZoZLg?= =?us-ascii?q?jeBZxeENohahhyIfwEeAUOCBBmBSoglfgEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,446,1454976000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="256431854" Received: from rcdn-core-11.cisco.com ([173.37.93.147]) by alln-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 06 Apr 2016 02:36:12 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-018.cisco.com (xch-rtp-018.cisco.com [64.101.220.158]) by rcdn-core-11.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u362aC2K009241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 6 Apr 2016 02:36:12 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-018.cisco.com (64.101.220.158) by XCH-RTP-018.cisco.com (64.101.220.158) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 22:36:11 -0400 Received: from xch-rtp-018.cisco.com ([64.101.220.158]) by XCH-RTP-018.cisco.com ([64.101.220.158]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 22:36:11 -0400 From: "Paul Giralt (pgiralt)" To: Brett Tate Thread-Topic: [Insipid] draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-18: comments and questions Thread-Index: AdGKjoY1cNJ5jXYgSYmyGC49bFEmrAFQBMuA Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 02:36:11 +0000 Message-ID: <7CA8F3F9-7338-4313-9605-015664BD9016@cisco.com> References: <7fe4e490ec6b9eb7b87b288748456e09@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7fe4e490ec6b9eb7b87b288748456e09@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.116.123.203] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F8C53482-3E17-4EF5-ADD8-BA04A097051C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "insipid@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Insipid] draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-18: comments and questions X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 02:36:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F8C53482-3E17-4EF5-ADD8-BA04A097051C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Brett, Thanks again. See inline... >=20 > I don't have a strong preference. The SHOULD would allow = intermediaries to > defer to prior hop within situation or deployment model where = intermediary > might be less confident about the accuracy of the stored value. >=20 I=E2=80=99m going to put it as a MUST for now and hopefully will get = comments if anyone feels this should be a SHOULD. Seems like the = intermediary would be in a better position to know the latest UUID and = the intermediary should follow the SHOULD that says to update the other = endpoint when the UUID changes. >=20 > If not intentional, the proposed new bullet for CANCEL appears to = cause the > remote UUID of CANCEL's 200/481 to contain the stored value. However, = I'm > not positive since unsure if another bullet applies at the same time > concerning how to build the CANCEL responses. >=20 The remote UUID of CANCEL=E2=80=99s 200 / 481 contains the UUID from the = CANCEL per Bullet 1 in Section 8. Don=E2=80=99t think we need any = special cases here. > Also concerning the new bullet for CANCEL, the "not passed not = end-to-end" > appears to have an extra "not=E2=80=9D. Thanks. Fixed. >=20 >> As you mentioned, without updating the UUID on a failure >> response, we don=E2=80=99t have a value for ACK. Having the value >> in the ACK outweighs any potential out of sync that may >> occur in a rare scenario where the UUID changes on a >> failure response. I=E2=80=99m inclined to leave as-is. >=20 > I don't have a strong opinion on the topic. However the ACK for = non-2xx > could be a special situation where it can contain failure response's = local > UUID without needing to allow it to update the stored value. This = would be > similar to INVITE failure response (or 3xx) during call setup causing = a > resubmit with higher cseq (without remote UUID); however excluding = 3xx, I > didn't really notice any text concerning the topic. >=20 Ok thanks. Since you don=E2=80=99t have a strong opinion and I=E2=80=99d = rather err on the side of less special cases, I=E2=80=99m going to leave = as-is for now. If anyone else has a strong opinion to the contrary we = can revisit. >=20 >=20 >> To answer your specific questions - if it really did play >> out the way you outlined above and the 503 does include a >> session identifier (and it happens to be different than >> the one in the 2xx), then yes, the 503 should cause an >> update and the remote UUID in the ACK for the 503 would >> reflect the 503=E2=80=99s value (which would also now be the stored >> value because we accept stored values from the 503). Not >> ideal, but this scenario does not seem realistic to me. >> Please correct me if I=E2=80=99m missing something. >=20 > The RFC 3263 advancing of mid-dialog requests based upon short time > intervals occurs. Devices that do it currently pick a winning > branch/response for updating local data and relaying as needed = (selecting > "best" response is discussed within RFC 5057 section 5.1 note 9). >=20 > The thing that you might be missing is that the draft (depending upon > interpretation) is asking devices that RFC 3263 advance mid-dialog = requests > based upon time (and/or 503) to allow every responding branch to = update the > stored value even though 1 or none where selected as the winning = response > when selecting how to respond. >=20 > However as I mentioned above, I don't have a strong opinion on the = topic. Thanks for clarifying. I think implementations should do what they feel = is best to select the =E2=80=9Cright=E2=80=9D UUID to use. The = implementation would know best and I=E2=80=99m hesitant to complicate = the draft to provide specific guidance. I may add a statement indicating = the spirit of the guidelines. I=E2=80=99ll incorporate all your feedback into draft 19 and get it out = shortly. -Paul --Apple-Mail=_F8C53482-3E17-4EF5-ADD8-BA04A097051C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXBHYbAAoJEADWV7cDInKsaVUP/jXFrLYCbi9BxltjXL4e5RwG Avrq9mrBMJj1DzHw60cqHjnFp32l7/jUeZFm6AAz77u9nN9ku1Gb/AwbGNeAPFlX EBtPodMBIknj1N7w3v4yk2/cRGs2cRfa/Sc/4AfTh2+6rKiRsjnbunt+/p4GlZmg GIaWdd3TT5eAHgBDjGIXCKy/X5B/B9baT/uWeRzVanonwDxNGci2vTDMQC3Rxm2Y CdEUdSCcIkI+C1CpuaNyDng+EPqrHt213bsg+t3kuRQuuEX9vESpl74OnnDSlyfQ ieKZKKaWfBTIl1ejlrSbrwno//sfsgQ8LpqeSSu2FLZ0MDxcM2mzOFXl1e+CP06r fyMvyP+U6XQWxggyJC4+o7/2bYb7QzaP4H+kZtdJkc5fDUsIO0z0qrdUBcv4Scdv CtfTlmfEEJJEe9Ggm66aZaWdrlxbTcXVot6j7HwQBcJ7SsKRco5zTnIMP3ZtJtb0 uJG3dYmAf/SBMIkM73fRzWu+ocNINHhjAgFeK37J1SLIHtgvWQX96b1zfx/ludkZ 6mr63J2jpjRtX2lngMTNXvgALzrQac9rUD+wiWQoRUQNxbokbX3Zy99/Vq1zoJvw o2haXxUe4ytY42/MeGRUIk8Z1ZTxd4LRuUUzSO6igCKerl3PBRNhHs2pURf/sdMd fXHrI7sl7ehkss8s6uNl =I+aH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_F8C53482-3E17-4EF5-ADD8-BA04A097051C-- From nobody Tue Apr 5 19:36:34 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAED12D1D5 for ; 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boundary="Apple-Mail=_845B935D-B26E-4D2F-A815-6F7FCB767131"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "insipid@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Insipid] draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-18: comments and questions X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 02:36:33 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_845B935D-B26E-4D2F-A815-6F7FCB767131 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Brett, Thanks again. See inline... >=20 > I don't have a strong preference. The SHOULD would allow = intermediaries to > defer to prior hop within situation or deployment model where = intermediary > might be less confident about the accuracy of the stored value. >=20 I=E2=80=99m going to put it as a MUST for now and hopefully will get = comments if anyone feels this should be a SHOULD. Seems like the = intermediary would be in a better position to know the latest UUID and = the intermediary should follow the SHOULD that says to update the other = endpoint when the UUID changes. >=20 > If not intentional, the proposed new bullet for CANCEL appears to = cause the > remote UUID of CANCEL's 200/481 to contain the stored value. However, = I'm > not positive since unsure if another bullet applies at the same time > concerning how to build the CANCEL responses. >=20 The remote UUID of CANCEL=E2=80=99s 200 / 481 contains the UUID from the = CANCEL per Bullet 1 in Section 8. Don=E2=80=99t think we need any = special cases here. > Also concerning the new bullet for CANCEL, the "not passed not = end-to-end" > appears to have an extra "not=E2=80=9D. Thanks. Fixed. >=20 >> As you mentioned, without updating the UUID on a failure >> response, we don=E2=80=99t have a value for ACK. Having the value >> in the ACK outweighs any potential out of sync that may >> occur in a rare scenario where the UUID changes on a >> failure response. I=E2=80=99m inclined to leave as-is. >=20 > I don't have a strong opinion on the topic. However the ACK for = non-2xx > could be a special situation where it can contain failure response's = local > UUID without needing to allow it to update the stored value. This = would be > similar to INVITE failure response (or 3xx) during call setup causing = a > resubmit with higher cseq (without remote UUID); however excluding = 3xx, I > didn't really notice any text concerning the topic. >=20 Ok thanks. Since you don=E2=80=99t have a strong opinion and I=E2=80=99d = rather err on the side of less special cases, I=E2=80=99m going to leave = as-is for now. If anyone else has a strong opinion to the contrary we = can revisit. >=20 >=20 >> To answer your specific questions - if it really did play >> out the way you outlined above and the 503 does include a >> session identifier (and it happens to be different than >> the one in the 2xx), then yes, the 503 should cause an >> update and the remote UUID in the ACK for the 503 would >> reflect the 503=E2=80=99s value (which would also now be the stored >> value because we accept stored values from the 503). Not >> ideal, but this scenario does not seem realistic to me. >> Please correct me if I=E2=80=99m missing something. >=20 > The RFC 3263 advancing of mid-dialog requests based upon short time > intervals occurs. Devices that do it currently pick a winning > branch/response for updating local data and relaying as needed = (selecting > "best" response is discussed within RFC 5057 section 5.1 note 9). >=20 > The thing that you might be missing is that the draft (depending upon > interpretation) is asking devices that RFC 3263 advance mid-dialog = requests > based upon time (and/or 503) to allow every responding branch to = update the > stored value even though 1 or none where selected as the winning = response > when selecting how to respond. >=20 > However as I mentioned above, I don't have a strong opinion on the = topic. Thanks for clarifying. I think implementations should do what they feel = is best to select the =E2=80=9Cright=E2=80=9D UUID to use. The = implementation would know best and I=E2=80=99m hesitant to complicate = the draft to provide specific guidance. I may add a statement indicating = the spirit of the guidelines. I=E2=80=99ll incorporate all your feedback into draft 19 and get it out = shortly. -Paul --Apple-Mail=_845B935D-B26E-4D2F-A815-6F7FCB767131 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXBHYjAAoJEADWV7cDInKsWfoP+gKhnOibGpO+fbrxyKR5ruv0 mqwgoaVH5x33oVj/dxfZLYQoD95I1l1hfnQ8Lcoj7owvBSCunaqpvmn5qxa19k70 slYo5PEqYd+MQ9Pg95IqHtT0lSRhkT3RzWRYkfoopGy/CN4mP95JtEzZFUeLlEZ7 TpC/lt7WF98cPD17fC7/GMI/FEWnlc3xhgdNARE2a/cqCIhNYl+JQ2CrCgj390nn TbUkdOjJz30JOdRVLbJB9K4vkTn3ZSIP3LI6U9jNsnNKVpYAN0I+22dLtJqoQG3G ooNyN5vXrGHZ0LKN3mS1nqSIqT4QFP0ir0aThLzfVAp4cP+T4wiRVb5QifwIQV9L L8YPUkdkikuJN7gzhqr7BypW9GlpV9uHtfgsCWhGolxepEwqXbvhetas2rF7q/Jl pP8S425duoLaevPS1Dw+ZGux96Zgo9wegf/Wp9GQglYwRJfobZsfXZzrimkwEJx8 G74WCkQ2N6D6iMVcH9Opofr7zPPnDI7BiMstdp62PgkgHPt/JA37QGhtyQfdFn/A VUPlIZZD1hpx/A4G/OY28QjTJLNhsx6ieEne74PZNfNbBLkpMzI0t+ciZ1HeHWzi vIMiD6zHqt4wuskcQlQWfEXdmf0tLBxYOtU+OO5dxfbNL+O20/jkIKo14LIYNT1a iVexyPVfKAJd2y3L7MUR =1rM2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_845B935D-B26E-4D2F-A815-6F7FCB767131-- From nobody Tue Apr 5 19:46:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietf.org Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D8112D0A7; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 19:46:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160406024620.30897.61687.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2016 19:46:20 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: insipid@ietf.org Subject: [Insipid] I-D Action: draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19.txt X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 02:46:20 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the INtermediary-safe SIP session ID of the IETF. Title : End-to-End Session Identification in IP-Based Multimedia Communication Networks Authors : Paul E. Jones Gonzalo Salgueiro Chris Pearce Paul Giralt Filename : draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19.txt Pages : 39 Date : 2016-04-05 Abstract: This document describes an end-to-end Session Identifier for use in IP-based multimedia communication systems that enables endpoints, intermediary devices, and management systems to identify a session end-to-end, associate multiple endpoints with a given multipoint conference, track communication sessions when they are redirected, and associate one or more media flows with a given communication session. This document also describes a backwards compatibility mechanism for an existing session identifier implementation (RFC 7329) that is sufficiently different from the procedures defined in this document. This document obsoletes RFC 7329. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Apr 5 20:10:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0C512D7DE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 20:09:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rw4qCRP3Ot6C for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 20:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com [173.37.86.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FD1B12DA0E for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 19:56:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2362; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1459911392; x=1461120992; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=81l1N1otCwIAFDK/jFawe/uLZrM5LAi9CfwlSRpKfKw=; b=ZM3AwPxcj3tONc+Tck2Y/0tR32hNcDIJ5zUQ1cI0vC5N8AKZI+5OLYWd bmMi4dTZbPPbBVGjirfh/ppiPFRshL/+PYivXHcEpfAj9XRjXP8lbcNb2 a3Gh5wau0KthPOjQvdjTOrYbgfHtDmbQP7NkMn41QlbnU/nRls0D7RE/U 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AgAgDleQRX/5NdJa1SCgGDNlN9Brs2A?= =?us-ascii?q?Q2BchcKhSJKAoFHOBQBAQEBAQEBZRwLhEEBAQEDAQEBATcuBhALAgEIGB4QJws?= =?us-ascii?q?lAgQTiB8IDsA7AQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBFYYggXUIgk6EFSiDLYIrB?= =?us-ascii?q?ZgBAYV1iBWBZ06Df4c/gRuGHIh/AR4BAUKDZ2yHOX4BAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,446,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="88355171" Received: from rcdn-core-11.cisco.com ([173.37.93.147]) by rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 06 Apr 2016 02:56:32 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-017.cisco.com (xch-rtp-017.cisco.com [64.101.220.157]) by rcdn-core-11.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u362uVUn024134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 02:56:32 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-018.cisco.com (64.101.220.158) by XCH-RTP-017.cisco.com (64.101.220.157) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 22:56:31 -0400 Received: from xch-rtp-018.cisco.com ([64.101.220.158]) by XCH-RTP-018.cisco.com ([64.101.220.158]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 22:56:31 -0400 From: "Paul Giralt (pgiralt)" To: "insipid@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Insipid] I-D Action: draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19.txt Thread-Index: AQHRj66H2LqKdoOvcEiQjxd//44Mhp98g4cA Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 02:56:30 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20160406024620.30897.61687.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20160406024620.30897.61687.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.116.123.203] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Insipid] I-D Action: draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19.txt X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 03:09:59 -0000 INSIPID WG,=20 The latest update should address all outstanding feedback. Please review fo= r any additional changes before we move to WGLC.=20 Thanks,=20 -Paul > On Apr 5, 2016, at 10:46 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the INtermediary-safe SIP session ID of the = IETF. >=20 > Title : End-to-End Session Identification in IP-Based Mu= ltimedia Communication Networks=20 > Authors : Paul E. Jones > Gonzalo Salgueiro > Chris Pearce > Paul Giralt > Filename : draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19.txt > Pages : 39 > Date : 2016-04-05 >=20 > Abstract: > This document describes an end-to-end Session Identifier for use in > IP-based multimedia communication systems that enables endpoints, > intermediary devices, and management systems to identify a session > end-to-end, associate multiple endpoints with a given multipoint > conference, track communication sessions when they are redirected, > and associate one or more media flows with a given communication > session. >=20 > This document also describes a backwards compatibility mechanism for > an existing session identifier implementation (RFC 7329) that is > sufficiently different from the procedures defined in this document. >=20 > This document obsoletes RFC 7329. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > insipid mailing list > insipid@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/insipid From nobody Wed Apr 6 03:50:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EEE12D153 for ; 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Wed, 06 Apr 2016 03:50:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Brett Tate References: <7fe4e490ec6b9eb7b87b288748456e09@mail.gmail.com> <62C9B6F3-488B-4B8F-9657-EA2EA1ADB8DF@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <62C9B6F3-488B-4B8F-9657-EA2EA1ADB8DF@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQG3q1k5jcTQtTiKLIMyc8WTyNydaQJWNLs/n53TmaA= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 06:50:26 -0400 Message-ID: <2b172d66af0e89739e1b8ed8285b130f@mail.gmail.com> To: insipid@ietf.org, "Paul Giralt (pgiralt)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Insipid] draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-18: comments and questions X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 10:50:30 -0000 Hi, Thanks for the response; reply is inline. > > If not intentional, the proposed new bullet for CANCEL > > appears to cause the remote UUID of CANCEL's 200/481 to > > contain the stored value. However, I'm not positive > > since unsure if another bullet applies at the same time > > concerning how to build the CANCEL responses. > > > > The remote UUID of CANCEL=E2=80=99s 200 / 481 contains the UUID > from the CANCEL per Bullet 1 in Section 8. Don=E2=80=99t think > we need any special cases here. If bullet 1 applies, draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19 bullet 5 needs a modification similar to bullet 3's "note" to make it obvious. Without such a note, it looks like the last sentence of bullet 5 applies when building CANCEL response. The is especially true since bullet 1 has an exception indicating that it doesn't apply to CANCEL. 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Thu, 07 Apr 2016 04:18:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Brett Tate References: <7fe4e490ec6b9eb7b87b288748456e09@mail.gmail.com> <62C9B6F3-488B-4B8F-9657-EA2EA1ADB8DF@cisco.com> <2b172d66af0e89739e1b8ed8285b130f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQG3q1k5jcTQtTiKLIMyc8WTyNydaQJWNLs/ARUqfcMCj1SOwJ+CSb0Q Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 07:18:38 -0400 Message-ID: <2d9383192a8f2f1951b5f2bd7902cc8a@mail.gmail.com> To: insipid@ietf.org, "Paul Giralt (pgiralt)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Insipid] draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-18: comments and questions X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 11:18:41 -0000 Hi, Thanks for the response; reply is inline. > I=E2=80=99ve added similar verbiage to bullet 5 to make it clear > but after reading bullet 1 again, I will be removing the > statement "(with the exception of ACK or CANCEL as > described below)=E2=80=9D because there is no response to an ACK > anyway, so it doesn=E2=80=99t really make sense and we want bullet > 1 to apply to CANCEL as well. I=E2=80=99m not sure I remember why > I added that in the first place, but it seems wrong. Let > me know if you see any issue with this. The change sounds correct. > Were you planning on any additional feedback on > draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19? No. However if I find time before or during WGLC, I'll review whatever is the current version of the draft. From nobody Sun Apr 10 15:22:59 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB1312D0AC for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 15:22:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.517 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.517 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h7Dy3RCTfZYq for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 15:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5D0A12B01B for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 15:22:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2300; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1460326977; x=1461536577; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=xV4KO93QcabP/ZUfX7wYJ1AvbYtdM3B4daRxUbtqalc=; b=CEpJCN3glbyH0kbT4gmpTUeFMzxtmtL5KUDhaoi3LEeDUdq6d1q0EXPX VKI4WecKIwkO6ypLPMXT6vIbyxmwL8KPVA1AYkyRkFLbXiUhhWH4Q5Ea1 p/m0drQ5RyfADIvPVHht1e3MCMieofsIJkAI1EPn8vomduTpiLuWRwF/L Q=; X-Files: signature.asc : 842 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DKAgDs0ApX/5FdJa1cgzeBUAa6UA6Bc?= =?us-ascii?q?4YNAoEgOBQBAQEBAQEBZSeEQQEBAQMBI1YFCwIBCBgqAgIyJQEBBA4FDogRCKs?= =?us-ascii?q?KkTMBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQENCIYhgXUIgk6HPyuCKwWTGYRrAYMjg?= =?us-ascii?q?WaJAo8NjyUBHgFDg2dsiS1+AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,462,1454976000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="92042005" Received: from rcdn-core-9.cisco.com ([173.37.93.145]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 10 Apr 2016 22:22:56 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-018.cisco.com (xch-rtp-018.cisco.com [64.101.220.158]) by rcdn-core-9.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u3AMMuZu025258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 10 Apr 2016 22:22:56 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-018.cisco.com (64.101.220.158) by XCH-RTP-018.cisco.com (64.101.220.158) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 18:22:55 -0400 Received: from xch-rtp-018.cisco.com ([64.101.220.158]) by XCH-RTP-018.cisco.com ([64.101.220.158]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 18:22:55 -0400 From: "Paul Giralt (pgiralt)" To: Brett Tate Thread-Topic: [Insipid] draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-18: comments and questions Thread-Index: AdGKjoY1cNJ5jXYgSYmyGC49bFEmrAFQBpWAABFBvwAAILv4gAASisQAAK4ShAA= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 22:22:55 +0000 Message-ID: <4F82CEC9-9BF0-4925-859E-2415B9E759B2@cisco.com> References: <7fe4e490ec6b9eb7b87b288748456e09@mail.gmail.com> <62C9B6F3-488B-4B8F-9657-EA2EA1ADB8DF@cisco.com> <2b172d66af0e89739e1b8ed8285b130f@mail.gmail.com> <2d9383192a8f2f1951b5f2bd7902cc8a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2d9383192a8f2f1951b5f2bd7902cc8a@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.116.123.196] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4DC0E22A-88EB-4CC7-BC31-75DB251A8835"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "insipid@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Insipid] draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-18: comments and questions X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 22:22:59 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_4DC0E22A-88EB-4CC7-BC31-75DB251A8835 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks Brett. I=E2=80=99ll get -20 out tonight. -Paul > On Apr 7, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Brett Tate wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Thanks for the response; reply is inline. >=20 >> I=E2=80=99ve added similar verbiage to bullet 5 to make it clear >> but after reading bullet 1 again, I will be removing the >> statement "(with the exception of ACK or CANCEL as >> described below)=E2=80=9D because there is no response to an ACK >> anyway, so it doesn=E2=80=99t really make sense and we want bullet >> 1 to apply to CANCEL as well. I=E2=80=99m not sure I remember why >> I added that in the first place, but it seems wrong. Let >> me know if you see any issue with this. >=20 > The change sounds correct. >=20 >=20 >> Were you planning on any additional feedback on >> draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-19? >=20 > No. However if I find time before or during WGLC, I'll review = whatever is > the current version of the draft. --Apple-Mail=_4DC0E22A-88EB-4CC7-BC31-75DB251A8835 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXCtI/AAoJEADWV7cDInKsifoP/086aMJqx4tDT2slTQ7OK7t+ 4bZOYrN8OlClXpDjYjYS3PcAEjf4bBFX3FpANXyvukOBWQ6Du9NegmW9dyTBJJuC s6Qiq4YX/98kywKo+6VensY1Qj1YwPAkiJMFambLZk03QnaWwVn/ECm8B4Pd1Yyd 3Ex/qYFghBHL/7XSc2VuOZninMxhPuZmoaDXaUj3aWCyUvQlOGY274orgheddrlh mIBfgr8nhcM9RVR4IJGPE4Ld9gcbBdbH1AZV54tg4Q52pyJeN5rr2LEBfJH04kho ukOr1HlRnuu/IUHrKznSzjky4sEQ4K/LLbO17CpYo8F3CFqDOwH+0a2TG+V1Qrnw PM7eedSnFgKd5c2JjcBBT95JJO05Z8424t55whFrWyo85NIGX+N022WtP6LyFmQQ HBPAYndyfynlNFfbgaOknAsdCWz6dNmQg8vSs5O9mY0qw/0z5o2wAOBak61Ek67w SkYxF2iVRt5m2+CLsT8fuoGd9hzBV0BJMd90YWh3dvEkzm6RZLMvvGBLeHS5+fMm aZFrJhCYbCwEOETRlvJ2pnVq8IxSxh4elVK63tXEHgSq9gxnQA/Ff6uGW5KmjXJN SNbMUhl/YEmIf0l3RiqfqkfPXpedy29/qgR6Bl3Wj9sB2YN7HfgsJOlUYigSxwq+ Husw1C4KfncybXO0O8T6 =fs+A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_4DC0E22A-88EB-4CC7-BC31-75DB251A8835-- From nobody Mon Apr 11 06:31:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietf.org Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E3812DE5C; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 06:31:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160411133108.13201.83844.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 06:31:08 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: insipid@ietf.org Subject: [Insipid] I-D Action: draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20.txt X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 13:31:08 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the INtermediary-safe SIP session ID of the IETF. Title : End-to-End Session Identification in IP-Based Multimedia Communication Networks Authors : Paul E. Jones Gonzalo Salgueiro Chris Pearce Paul Giralt Filename : draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20.txt Pages : 39 Date : 2016-04-11 Abstract: This document describes an end-to-end Session Identifier for use in IP-based multimedia communication systems that enables endpoints, intermediary devices, and management systems to identify a session end-to-end, associate multiple endpoints with a given multipoint conference, track communication sessions when they are redirected, and associate one or more media flows with a given communication session. This document also describes a backwards compatibility mechanism for an existing session identifier implementation (RFC 7329) that is sufficiently different from the procedures defined in this document. This document obsoletes RFC 7329. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Apr 12 18:35:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEA512D7B0 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:35:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.517 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.517 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KGjkEdXEsXT9 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA91A12D70E for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:35:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=829; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1460511314; x=1461720914; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=SU9O6jePzIA6UIm6D42IlYC3DP+sN8xnIc5qonsI2TU=; b=G6xK0i2v9EY6jCIUBePaO8M6+Wo5UncnPef0R+YNc+no5PtgT3/It8rM C2kL6mlb5zI3N/yCYQvpli45V1OLb7H46+79Mo0i0JpwVP1Y+DvHg48Hp mi0GbjJRxUquOe0Qr+8gcWDrSI8I3mk9/54G3eucx9zrmwqEVYzb0SAl5 M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0D1AQBmoQ1X/5BdJa1eAYM2U4EDuFSCD?= =?us-ascii?q?wENgXYihy84FAEBAQEBAQFlHAuESDo5GAE+QicEiDsOoDWheAEBAQEBAQQBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBARQEhiGBdYZlEQGDSYIrBZgIAYV2iBaBZ4ROh0CBG48mAR4BAUKDZ4k9N?= =?us-ascii?q?n4BAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,477,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="91136275" Received: from rcdn-core-8.cisco.com ([173.37.93.144]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 13 Apr 2016 01:35:14 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-007.cisco.com (xch-aln-007.cisco.com [173.36.7.17]) by rcdn-core-8.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u3D1ZDJe031583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:35:14 GMT Received: from xch-aln-009.cisco.com (173.36.7.19) by XCH-ALN-007.cisco.com (173.36.7.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 20:35:13 -0500 Received: from xch-aln-009.cisco.com ([173.36.7.19]) by XCH-ALN-009.cisco.com ([173.36.7.19]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 20:35:13 -0500 From: "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" To: "insipid@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: WGLC for draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20 Thread-Index: AQHRlSS5Inbg6uJiPkaStp8cfIJcfA== Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:35:13 +0000 Message-ID: <454D582E-1FFD-40F8-9C7F-7B81F88B1619@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.82.239.102] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5CD22F3C59FA8445AE53064C3FC22A4A@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Insipid] WGLC for draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20 X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:35:16 -0000 INSIPID WG -=20 The -20 version has been published and closes out all the open WGLC issues = that Brett Tate has raised over the past months in his many thorough and in= sightful reviews of the draft. Sincere thanks to Brett for his persistence = and dedication. Considering the number of changes, including a few that ar= e normatively impacting, that have been made since the original WGLC we hav= e decided to issue a 2nd WGLC. This email is to announce a 2 week WGLC for the draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20 Please review and provide any comments by Wednesday, April 27, 2016. Comments should be sent to the authors and the INSIPID WG list.=20 If you review the draft but do not have any comments, please send a note to= that effect as well. 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Thanks, Brett ------ 1) Section 7 paragraph 3: You might want to include section 8 as part of the last sentence's exception since section 8 has the mandate to fix the remote value. 2) Section 8 bullet 3: Last sentence contains "value value". 3) Section 8 bullet 5: Last sentence contains "value value". 4) Section 10.3 figure 3: Concerning last re-invite, should likely show the B2BUA correcting the remote-uuid to be C and mention it within last bullet. This would comply with a MUST contained within section 8 last paragraph. 5) Section 10.3 last bullet: Concerning "local-uuid" = "A", it looks like "A" should be replaced with "C". However, I might be incorrectly thinking there is an implied {} around the two comma-separated values similar to the explicit {} within prior bullets. From nobody Tue Apr 26 14:22:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE93B12B029 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 14:22:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.517 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.517 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bOYQYi-P0PFi for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 14:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-7.cisco.com (alln-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.142.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9175A120727 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 14:22:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2472; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1461705767; x=1462915367; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=G94zWy4tQSslhg9WgZTiVDm36spgjdIFIvuCwwYCM/M=; b=YNXbxHKIhoToRFpd5hTy4yFLRN4Ea2oy6go/b9Eq90kgTslidsmaxgGH 4MvBmuhWT8xUKo3CSROpDITnH40lR4voqwKRLqkwWfshoqMzrgB5FxTJU 1GdgAroR6ZPekfxep1+YzcW9U7CEmS6SRImR5kThlcl3YgyEQAx0RjQkf Y=; X-Files: signature.asc : 842 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0BiAwBP2x9X/4ENJK1egziBVoJ1twQOg?= =?us-ascii?q?XSGDwKBQDgUAQEBAQEBAWUnhEIBAQMBDBdWBQsCAQYCQgICMiUBAQQOE4gUCJY?= =?us-ascii?q?rnReREgEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEPCIYhgXWCVoc/K4IrBZMfhHEBgyeBZ?= =?us-ascii?q?4kIjxGPLwEeAUOCBRuBS4kbfwEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,538,1454976000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="266402051" Received: from alln-core-9.cisco.com ([173.36.13.129]) by alln-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 26 Apr 2016 21:22:46 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-020.cisco.com (xch-rtp-020.cisco.com [64.101.220.160]) by alln-core-9.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u3QLMk5b027044 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 26 Apr 2016 21:22:46 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-018.cisco.com (64.101.220.158) by XCH-RTP-020.cisco.com (64.101.220.160) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 17:22:45 -0400 Received: from xch-rtp-018.cisco.com ([64.101.220.158]) by XCH-RTP-018.cisco.com ([64.101.220.158]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 17:22:45 -0400 From: "Paul Giralt (pgiralt)" To: Brett Tate Thread-Topic: draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20: comments Thread-Index: AdGf9NP3vaJLxoJUQXGrG1XbQrmMcgALndwA Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 21:22:45 +0000 Message-ID: <49BDF61D-D727-48A9-8B65-53A50D558618@cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.116.123.194] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3968283C-9330-4536-85E1-72B35B97F327"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "insipid@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-insipid-session-id@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Insipid] draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20: comments X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 21:22:49 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_3968283C-9330-4536-85E1-72B35B97F327 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks Brett. Inline=E2=80=A6 >=20 > 1) Section 7 paragraph 3: You might want to include section 8 as part = of > the last sentence's exception since section 8 has the mandate to fix = the > remote value. >=20 Added. > 2) Section 8 bullet 3: Last sentence contains "value value=E2=80=9D. fixed >=20 > 3) Section 8 bullet 5: Last sentence contains "value value=E2=80=9D. fixed > 4) Section 10.3 figure 3: Concerning last re-invite, should likely = show > the B2BUA correcting the remote-uuid to be C and mention it within = last > bullet. This would comply with a MUST contained within section 8 last > paragraph. >=20 Yes, you=E2=80=99re right. I=E2=80=99ve fixed and added some additional = wording in the bullet to explain this. > 5) Section 10.3 last bullet: Concerning "local-uuid" =3D "A", it looks = like > "A" should be replaced with "C". However, I might be incorrectly = thinking > there is an implied {} around the two comma-separated values similar = to > the explicit {} within prior bullets. This looks like a typo. It should be =E2=80=9CC=E2=80=9D and fixed. --Apple-Mail=_3968283C-9330-4536-85E1-72B35B97F327 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXH9wkAAoJEADWV7cDInKsmsoP/2mOfXLW4ljmN/TDR+chWBOH 3afjzFk83ne2IWIJEW7+b8sif/DoP2q2ztgNxl1879Z0iJ5W5t/O9amgzy0H+RmH IAafMNKFlRTofSvbzArJ08ne3xqh7P4tDf+3M4upCVbM055Yai/XYItJODB4wAuD D9fVbvuC6fINZFc6APa1jwgifBgKFY1JcgwWZpn9OlbRAViEaVZ+3fOQdnZNjakb s+NkvmmkrhHvbLCf3sCtUTeUeAr+/WxtQ2CDszj7pRqVCJmclNwmOw0TiwacZogp FMjcJ9NzNacABigy+jBou9Wh+6QXWsMlkphygAC3lHQmDwfhTe5V/2HcWpL2bIT+ 1g1SMInjCcZ7Kb2+Ysm7fBd4H8Ws8lUGBDvJXdNQl/s0G25/MJook1JX9MnlVd/H Co9eZKAqgm6Kq8ALJWAdBgR+ZgmK4pZFHACZOCNwNizFHfuds5J7oFQThn3VR4s5 BvSPnXVUHz7mCeVseP/pzYA56zoiN/ypN8xueoqxeO6HBd/McRd+PRfHYuELtgPA p+8zJlE8E1lEXqI0A+p5gNfW5KGGw9pp3vWulPrSB5BXpIriFlm1bgkM1xbP15tR ZSOHaG8XnD+8v269Pxq2vXzsM4Zl1iNjASQLmNfpd7saU6MoPqHACe03+QqI8Z9E K4oAT9rBClekA8+QL4gB =N52i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_3968283C-9330-4536-85E1-72B35B97F327-- From nobody Wed Apr 27 22:56:58 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761D612D5D4 for ; 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Thu, 28 Apr 2016 05:56:55 GMT Received: from xch-aln-009.cisco.com (173.36.7.19) by XCH-ALN-010.cisco.com (173.36.7.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:56:54 -0500 Received: from xch-aln-009.cisco.com ([173.36.7.19]) by XCH-ALN-009.cisco.com ([173.36.7.19]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:56:54 -0500 From: "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" To: "insipid@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Insipid] WGLC for draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20 Thread-Index: AQHRlSS5mcpT7z+gykCp/DjQejoSCp+fTxGA Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 05:56:54 +0000 Message-ID: <7CCB226F-4F31-4FE3-BE1C-E4E17BBF85FE@cisco.com> References: <454D582E-1FFD-40F8-9C7F-7B81F88B1619@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <454D582E-1FFD-40F8-9C7F-7B81F88B1619@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.196.121.81] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <777BB53E69A26B4BB86A242F660D3865@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Insipid] WGLC for draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20 X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 05:56:57 -0000 This concludes the WGLC for draft-ietf-insipid-session-id. Thanks to those= who provided comments. @Paul - Please submit -21 incorporating all comments received during WGLC. At this point we will proceed with the publication request. Thanks, Gonzalo > On Apr 13, 2016, at 7:05 AM, Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei) wrote: >=20 > INSIPID WG -=20 >=20 > The -20 version has been published and closes out all the open WGLC issue= s that Brett Tate has raised over the past months in his many thorough and = insightful reviews of the draft. Sincere thanks to Brett for his persistenc= e and dedication. Considering the number of changes, including a few that = are normatively impacting, that have been made since the original WGLC we h= ave decided to issue a 2nd WGLC. >=20 > This email is to announce a 2 week WGLC for the draft: >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-20 >=20 > Please review and provide any comments by Wednesday, April 27, 2016. >=20 > Comments should be sent to the authors and the INSIPID WG list.=20 > If you review the draft but do not have any comments, please send a note = to that effect as well. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Gonzalo > _______________________________________________ > insipid mailing list > insipid@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/insipid From nobody Thu Apr 28 10:01:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietf.org Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3C812D15F; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:01:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160428170148.5478.46140.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:01:48 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: insipid@ietf.org Subject: [Insipid] I-D Action: draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-21.txt X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:01:49 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the INtermediary-safe SIP session ID of the IETF. Title : End-to-End Session Identification in IP-Based Multimedia Communication Networks Authors : Paul E. Jones Gonzalo Salgueiro Chris Pearce Paul Giralt Filename : draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-21.txt Pages : 39 Date : 2016-04-28 Abstract: This document describes an end-to-end Session Identifier for use in IP-based multimedia communication systems that enables endpoints, intermediary devices, and management systems to identify a session end-to-end, associate multiple endpoints with a given multipoint conference, track communication sessions when they are redirected, and associate one or more media flows with a given communication session. This document also describes a backwards compatibility mechanism for an existing session identifier implementation (RFC 7329) that is sufficiently different from the procedures defined in this document. This document obsoletes RFC 7329. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-21 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-21 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Apr 29 02:23:22 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietf.org Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BD412D5C4; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 02:23:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Meeting Session Request Tool\"" To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160429092320.12441.84520.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 02:23:20 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: ben@nostrum.com, insipid@ietf.org, gsalguei@cisco.com, insipid-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [Insipid] insipid - Not having a session at IETF 96 X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:23:20 -0000 Gonzalo Salgueiro, a chair of the insipid working group, indicated that the insipid working group does not plan to hold a session at IETF 96. 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From nobody Fri Apr 29 03:01:19 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: insipid@ietf.org Delivered-To: insipid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C4712B032; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 03:01:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160429100116.12457.31892.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 03:01:16 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: insipid@ietf.org Subject: [Insipid] I-D Action: draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-22.txt X-BeenThere: insipid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: SIP Session-ID discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:01:16 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the INtermediary-safe SIP session ID of the IETF. Title : End-to-End Session Identification in IP-Based Multimedia Communication Networks Authors : Paul E. Jones Gonzalo Salgueiro Chris Pearce Paul Giralt Filename : draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-22.txt Pages : 39 Date : 2016-04-29 Abstract: This document describes an end-to-end Session Identifier for use in IP-based multimedia communication systems that enables endpoints, intermediary devices, and management systems to identify a session end-to-end, associate multiple endpoints with a given multipoint conference, track communication sessions when they are redirected, and associate one or more media flows with a given communication session. This document also describes a backwards compatibility mechanism for an existing session identifier implementation (RFC 7329) that is sufficiently different from the procedures defined in this document. This document obsoletes RFC 7329. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-22 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-22 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/