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Hi Francis,

On 03/29/2012 07:53 AM, Francis Dupont wrote:
> I still deeply dislike the reveal idea but at least the new version has
> a decent privacy implication part.
> As I don't want to get the IETF associated with names like Amesys or
> Blue Coat, I suggest to use only negative recommendations at the
> exception of one mechanism so nobody should be able to say we (the IETF)
> have recommended such a mechanism.

Can you send some text proposals for this either to the list or directly
to the authors. It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Suresh

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A new list has been created for fixed mobile convergence (FMC)
discussions, fmc@ietf.org.

If interested, please subscribe the list using this link:

https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fmc

Regards,

Behcet & Dirk

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Hi,
 the description of the mailing list says: " serving access to =
multi-interface terminals".  Looks like MIF to me.
- how is this different from MIF?
- why did the MIF ML was not part of the "multicast"?

Marc.

Le 2012-04-04 =E0 11:36, Behcet Sarikaya a =E9crit :

> A new list has been created for fixed mobile convergence (FMC)
> discussions, fmc@ietf.org.
>=20
> If interested, please subscribe the list using this link:
>=20
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fmc
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Behcet & Dirk
> _______________________________________________
> Int-area mailing list
> Int-area@ietf.org
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: Times; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 4px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
4px; ">&nbsp;serving access to multi-interface terminals". &nbsp;Looks =
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style=3D"font-family: Times; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 4px; =
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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        BCP 177
        RFC 6540

        Title:      IPv6 Support Required for All 
                    IP-Capable Nodes 
        Author:     W. George, C. Donley,
                    C. Liljenstolpe, L. Howard
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       April 2012
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        See Also:   BCP0177

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-intarea-ipv6-required-02.txt

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Given the global lack of available IPv4 space, and limitations in
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
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	Title           : Analysis of Solution Candidates to Reveal a Host Identif=
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                          Joe Touch
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   This document analyzes a set of solution candidates to mitigate some
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   proxies are involved in the path.  This host identifier must be
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Dear all,

I submitted an updated version to reflect the discussion we had in Paris:

* The Privacy Section has been completed. The new text is reviewed by Aliss=
a. Many thanks.
* I added a recommendation text reflecting what I presented in my slides.=20

I also made some other changes:

* Remove all the detailed analysis to an appendix.
* Expand the security text

As an editor, I think the document is ready for a WGLC.

Cheers,
Med

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Hi,
  Read briefly with interest the draft draft-ietf-ancp-pon-02. Is there
  an  interest/existing work in taking this forward to other technologies
such as Ethernet,
 MPLS (since MPLS is used in the access too, both MPLS-LSPs(TP or
 otherwise) and BGP based MPLS VPNS).
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Hi,
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Sitaraman -

Formal liason relationships between IETF and other bodies can be found here=
: http://www.ietf.org/liaison/

IETF has a non-WG mailing list sdnp@lucidvision.com and has had a BoF (http=
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n may interact with ONF's work, whether there is work for IETF to do in thi=
s space that is complementary to ONF's work, etc.

Thanks,

Wes George



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Hi George
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>
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Hi all,
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http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/minutes/minutes-83-intarea.txt

If there are any inaccuracies or omissions in the minutes, please let us
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Thanks
Suresh & Julien


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Subject: [Int-area] Soliciting additional reviews for draft-bonica-v6-multihome-03
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Hi all,
  The authors of this draft have published a new revision in response to
the comments received on the ML as well as the last IETF meeting. The
new revision can be found at

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bonica-v6-multihome-03

We had two people volunteer to review this draft during the Paris
meeting (Thanks Alain and Lorenzo). It would be great if we can have
additional reviews of this draft. Please take some time to read the
draft and send comments either to the list or directly to the authors.

Thanks
Suresh and Julien