From nobody Mon Oct 4 16:18:49 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A636F3A0CD0; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:18:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.848 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.848 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xXgCxyKDUovC; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io1-xd33.google.com (mail-io1-xd33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AE563A0CC6; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd33.google.com with SMTP id y197so22224101iof.11; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 16:18:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=trmDjgOV7MStDZ4qPvlMEbeF23N5OctNUfhrf+A4Gu4=; b=V5N76uFYHq6GNe1g9IuRP6P5FAXio2O0HfkGuRo/WsLS21KjQ6cPBMO1SJivC2aGUW w6LtRg5Opp7Ka26wl6CFT2Rdq5+JZAsoCCBwI4AeXFklbPZ6JgWy75A/zA3bgWQPpQ1d FDFj2TJ+jh3RFDU7ZwJDOT+Sch0LDc+tmbakzr2MjRFhNhCAHVdwAXsJG532AWBqGf6a 00VFr9E/c84a6bOSN76EQ+50dbTd/SV1Cjf/lwuAOF47Xcwg9NyJjFcTH1juPLZ/BMO6 /8din66qCEHg+XTw9AbgEWBgFOQgYgp06J6HwoBqccj2dofX5HecUYaQLIjN9Iq4DI43 zm3w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=trmDjgOV7MStDZ4qPvlMEbeF23N5OctNUfhrf+A4Gu4=; b=FbtM6O/VkDgHmMa02rMsWM7XDtqpPRaCbX/1HpMMEc7T3aJJ3zzHHuLEPEc0u17qpE 0det5AhsJNkXfiRnQyc10TeUjTq8/0Yz/53WpBoP8hxAG1M1g7L5K6VPkGOvP2vVeDM7 kC7ScbJ9rVYWW1lt9EszkJCYmufwAcgtmHHGKz4xD9gomGukwV947nsHUXmY8TBJliXi DGujweuYtbk45Y0qLmXIZtmGc6I7fanUKjtMYDsayX9c48DtPYaRziHDpPIErG8Uy0kp RIXS8KPAjeFIBiC+hzSDOaTPTvT5WHjIdRTDbBdIsGbTWpgjv9axsHucbDhRmlc2xgFq G2oA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530NQHWLwatJMsLhLMpuuSKxfMd/Yr4dvDHZTYyWhbhn9RtJy4HQ LGF0EJB/MOQS4gX+gf/ICufys2d3xlhMcQ5hAxIWmqDxItU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwQODr8jErt5yoVXoQRkiT1cUFsvkI0AtrhujbFeqx69tsQTgXPd5PqumTlaGBmiMAhL3tcTAftYP7uet31JBc= X-Received: by 2002:a02:cd17:: with SMTP id g23mr13262474jaq.29.1633389521008; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 16:18:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Donald Eastlake Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 19:18:29 -0400 Message-ID: To: int-dir@ietf.org, "iesg@ietf.org" Cc: draft-ietf-cbor-network-addresses.all@ietf.org, cbor-chairs@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: [Int-dir] iNTDIR Review of draft-ietf-cbor-network-addresses-09 X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 23:18:47 -0000 I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for . These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area Directors. Document editors and shepherd(s) should treat these comments just like they would treat comments from any other IETF contributor and resolve them along with any other Last Call comments that have been received. For more details on the INT Directorate, see . Based on my review if I was on the IESG I would ballot this document as NO OBJECTION. This is a simple document specifying new CBOR tags 54 and 52 for IPv6 and IPv4 where each can be used to encode an address, a prefix, or an interface (the IP address of the interface plus the local netmask) by clever use of the encoding of the content of the tag. The document also deprecates CBOR tags 260 and 261 which were previously intended for this use. The following are issues I found with this document that SHOULD be resolved before publication: According to this document, there currently exists a method for encoding 48- and 64-bit MAC addresses using CBOR tag 260 but that method will be deprecated. Shouldn't the draft preserve some non-deprecated way of encoding MAC addresses? The following are minor issues with the document: I think it would be useful for readers not familiar with CBOR to include a sentence such as the following somewhere near the beginning of the document: "CBOR tag numbers are given as decimal numbers." This document does not believe in the Oxford comma, but I believe in it as does the RFC Editor so they can be added now or in RFC editing. I think the wording of the first paragraph could be improved. Also, while it gives a reason for deprecating tag 261, it does not give any reason for deprecating tag 260. Here is my quick attempt at a possible re-wording: OLD [RFC8949] defines a number of CBOR Tags for common items. Tags 260 and 261 were later defined through IANA [IANA.cbor-tags]. These tags cover addresses (260), and prefixes (261). Tag 260 distinguishes between IPv6, IPv4 and Ethernet through the length of the byte string only. Tag 261 was not documented well enough to be used. NEW [RFC8949] defines a number of CBOR Tags for common items. Tags 260 and 261 were later defined in drafts listed with IANA [IANA.cbor-tags]. These tags were intended to cover addresses (260) and prefixes (261). Tag 260 distinguishes between IPv6, IPv4, and MAC [RFC7042] addresses only through the length of the byte string making it impossible, for example, to drop trailing zeros in the encoding of IP addresses. Tag 261 was not documented well enough to be used. Three times: "to be used" -> "for use" In Section 6, should the "recommended" in the first sentence be in all capital letters? I would delete all occurrences of "Note that " except for the one in the boilerplate :-) Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com From nobody Fri Oct 15 06:44:36 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: int-dir@ietf.org Delivered-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DDB3A084B; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 06:44:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Pascal Thubert via Datatracker To: Cc: bess@ietf.org, draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir.all@ietf.org, last-call@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.39.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <163430546454.7338.3215808111601421989@ietfa.amsl.com> Reply-To: Pascal Thubert Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 06:44:24 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Int-dir] Intdir telechat review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir-09 X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 13:44:25 -0000 Reviewer: Pascal Thubert Review result: Ready with Issues https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir/reviewrequest/15116/ Intdir Review draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir-09 I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir-09. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area Directors. Document editors and shepherd(s) should treat these comments just like they would treat comments from any other IETF contributors and resolve them along with any other Last Call comments that have been received. For more details on the INT Directorate, see https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/intdir/about/. I find the document to be well written but would benefit for clarification of what IR is (pro/con vs multicast tree, which node does what) at the very beginning. Overall I think the draft is ready with nits for publication. High level: I'm curious about link scope IPv6 multicast packets. I understand that MLDv2 is forwarded following regular IR procedures. Isn't that the case for all link scope IPv6 multicast (FF02::/16) ? [Page 2] The introduction uses IR as if the reader new what it is before hand. Maybe a bit more explanantion could help. Also, a simple fig illustrating NVE PE etc would help figure what is and does what, in particular what to expect from an IR function. Page 5 : define PMSI, e.g., copy the terminology from draft-ietf-bess-evpn-bum-procedure-updates Page 3 : "The Inclusive Multicast Ethernet Tag route (RT-3) and its PMSI Tunnel Attribute’s (PTA) general format used in [RFC7432] are shown below:" Unclear whether the below is the original format in RFC 7432 or the variation instantiated for this document, which flags are already defined and which are added by this spec. For flags added for this spec to an existing field, it would make sense to add that the flag positions are "suggested to IANA"? Also, a figref would be nice as opposed to "below:" "This document defines the use of 4 bits of this Flags field:" It would be helpful to confirm the intuition that the bits are counted 0 to 7 left to right. "MUST be set to an IP address of the PE that should be": strange construct. The effect of the "MUST" appears destroyed by the "should". " The Tunnel Identifier and Next-Hop SHOULD be set to the same IP address as the Originating Router’s IP address when the NVE/PE originates the route. The Next-Hop address is referred to as the AR-IP and SHOULD be different than the IR-IP for a given PE/NVE." What are the consequences of not obeying those SHOULD? Please explain there when/why the node uses both IR-IP and AR-IP. Some text here would prepare for the reasons which can be inferred from behavior in page 11/12 but are not explicitly given. Fig 1: please indicate the ACs Page 11: " An AR-REPLICATOR will follow a data path implementation compatible with the following rules:" Should that be a MUST? Page 13:"In case of a failure on the selected AR-REPLICATOR, another AR-REPLICATOR will be selected" is that a SHOULD or a "MUST if available"? Page 13: "When an AR-REPLICATOR is selected, the AR-LEAF MUST send all the BM packets to that AR-REPLICATOR " contradicts "An AR-LEAF MAY select more than one AR-REPLICATOR and do either per-flow or per-BD load balancing." I guess it should say that the multicast packets are load-balanced across of the selected ARs using unicast underlay encapsulation. Section 6: Maybe indicate what the selective method does (build 2 hops trees) and the consequence (failure if an AR prevents the AR Leaves attached to it to send and receive multicast traffic till it's attached to a new AR. Page 15 "Figure 1 is also used to describe the selective AR solution, however in this section we consider NVE2 as one more AR-LEAF for BD-1. ": please make that a new figure 2 page 17: "A Selective AR-REPLICATOR data path implementation will be compatible with the following rules: " MUST again? reword maybe? 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--00000000000000fa1405cea6a680-- From nobody Mon Oct 18 13:55:48 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: int-dir@ietf.org Delivered-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB223A0BDC for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:55:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Carlos Bernardos via Datatracker To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.39.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bevolz@gmail.com, cjbc@it.uc3m.es, Carlos Bernardos Message-ID: <163459054485.10495.14678779836700119641@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:55:45 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Int-dir] Open review assignments in intdir X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 20:55:46 -0000 Hi all, The following reviewers have assignments: For telechat 2021-10-21 Reviewer LC end Draft Suresh Krishnan 2021-09-07 draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-13 Charles Perkins 2021-09-07 draft-ietf-bess-evpn-bum-procedure-updates-11 Last calls: Reviewer LC end Draft Donald Eastlake 2021-09-22 draft-ietf-cbor-network-addresses-11 Suresh Krishnan 2021-09-07 draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-13 Charles Perkins 2021-09-07 draft-ietf-bess-evpn-bum-procedure-updates-11 Next in the reviewer rotation: Ron Bonica Zhen Cao Tim Chown Jean-Michel Combes Donald Eastlake Brian Haberman Wassim Haddad Bob Halley Bob Hinden Sheng Jiang As a helpful reference for reviewers, please check the Directorates Guidelines available at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/DirectoratesGuidelines Reviews must include the following boilerplate text in the comments sent: "I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for . 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 22:15:15 -0000 Intdir Review draft-ietf-regext-epp-registry-maintenance-19 Note: The review is sent directly to the int-dir mailing list and the authors. Due to the late submission of the review, it was not possible to submit it via datatracker. I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-regext-epp-registry-maintenance-19. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area Directors. Document editors and shepherd(s) should treat these comments just like they would treat comments from any other IETF contributors and resolve them along with any other Last Call comments that have been received. For more details on the INT Directorate, see https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/intdir/about/. Overall, I find the document well written and understandable. I only have questions on clarifications and think the draft is ready with nits for publication. In Section 1.1, there is some confusion on my part (and I see from another reviewer too) with the comment: "maint" is used as an abbreviation for "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:epp:maintenance-1.0". Is "abbreviation" the right word for the association of the "maint" prefix with the namespace? Section 3.3 and further, the values for the OPTIONAL "lang" attribute are define in RFC 5646/ISO 639-1? Maybe be explicit about this? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 11:58:29 -0000 Hi Beeno, Thanks for your review of the draft. We will remove the abbreviation from = section 1.1 and replace the paragraph with: Original: "maint" is used as an abbreviation for "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:epp: maintenance-1.0". The XML namespace prefix "maint" is used, but implementations MUST NOT depend on it. Instead, they are to employ a proper namespace-aware XML parser and serializer to interpret and output the XML documents. New: The XML namespace prefix "maint" is used for the namespace "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:epp:maintenance-1.0", but implementations MUST NOT depend on it and instead employ a proper namespace-aware XML parser and serializer to interpret and output the XML documents. We will also address the reference of 5646 in the maint:id paragraph: Original: The server unique identifier for the maintenance event with the OPTIONAL "name" attribute that includes a human-readable name of the event. The server unique identifier SHALL NOT be changed if the event is updated or deleted. When the "name" attribute is set, the OPTIONAL "lang" attribute MAY be present to identify the language if the negotiated value is something other than the default value of "en" (English). New: The server unique identifier for the maintenance event with the OPTIONAL "name" attribute that includes a human-readable name of the event. The server unique identifier SHALL NOT be changed if the event is updated or deleted. When the "name" attribute is set, the OPTIONAL "lang" attribute, per the language structure in [RFC5646], MAY be present to identify the language if the negotiated value is something other than the default value of "en" (English). We will also add the Normative Reference: [RFC5646] Phillips, A., Ed. and M. Davis, Ed., "Tags for Identifying Languages", BCP 47, RFC 5646, DOI 10.17487/RFC5646, September 2009, . Please let us know if you have any questions. Thanks, Jody Kolker. -----Original Message----- From: Benno Overeinder =20 Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 5:15 PM To: int-dir@ietf.org; draft-ietf-regext-epp-registry-maintenance@ietf.org Subject: late int-dir review of draft-ietf-regext-epp-registry-maintenance [Some people who received this message don't often get email from benno@nln= etlabs.nl. Learn why this is important at http://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIde= ntification.] Caution: This email is from an external sender. Please do not click links o= r open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is = safe. Forward suspicious emails to isitbad@. Intdir Review draft-ietf-regext-epp-registry-maintenance-19 Note: The review is sent directly to the int-dir mailing list and the autho= rs. Due to the late submission of the review, it was not possible to submi= t it via datatracker. I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-regext-epp-registr= y-maintenance-19. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of= the Internet Area Directors. Document editors and shepherd(s) should treat these comments just like they= would treat comments from any other IETF contributors and resolve them alo= ng with any other Last Call comments that have been received. For more details on the INT Directorate, see https://nam10.safelinks.protec= tion.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fgroup%2Fintdir= %2Fabout%2F&data=3D04%7C01%7Cjkolker%40godaddy.com%7C678435050217456e78= dd08d9973bc255%7Cd5f1622b14a345a6b069003f8dc4851f%7C0%7C0%7C637707105338035= 288%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1= haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=3DfmzvJGLzr8VpaMypy%2B3vOCc8ogZ1gQI1vC= cw8ZwVvYw%3D&reserved=3D0. Overall, I find the document well written and understandable. I only have = questions on clarifications and think the draft is ready with nits for publ= ication. In Section 1.1, there is some confusion on my part (and I see from another = reviewer too) with the comment: "maint" is used as an abbreviation for "urn= :ietf:params:xml:ns:epp:maintenance-1.0". Is "abbreviation" the right word= for the association of the "maint" prefix with the namespace? Section 3.3 and further, the values for the OPTIONAL "lang" attribute are d= efine in RFC 5646/ISO 639-1? Maybe be explicit about this? Best, -- Benno Overeinder From nobody Mon Oct 25 05:09:57 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C50C3A0877; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 05:09:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=nlnetlabs.nl Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kOogStD5CwWV; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 05:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound.soverin.net (outbound.soverin.net [116.202.126.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3D103A0856; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 05:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.soverin.net (unknown [10.10.3.28]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by outbound.soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F324E3; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.soverin.net (smtp.soverin.net [159.69.232.142]) by soverin.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nlnetlabs.nl; s=soverin; t=1635163780; bh=oyKjTWbtdUAOHqsbpwDMjIRQV9kW2vgGnXo5fDdbsyY=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=XhqjF4OiXc64nfKiM32neY/ahHKLCm0a8SgIc17HgvRi1xlCFeVOflHpMbL8+QnJm 5mkUUmGdD0PVBxGLHn/3EedQ243aLegvo1bMlXlRlZMKUQevTMSuiMUxIJ7UvmCrZz bD3oEgXJwGNnb0eT1ceO0Yt8luUdW4gQBx5a1fWwnBjOThE1mVU/rlwAQ08fJEX9Zu Hpn8UozWzLwNWmvIRylBhysQgKb8g5gtQjjty1bMZTAGNRsvOX+c470rVhgt/N/iXL MaPkut3eihnBQi/87FELE7mKxqqJSelVSbKqpEiajtXKbY0f0ueX929TzQkKokXpgm wBfyF7MDES9kg== Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 14:09:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US To: Jody Kolker , "int-dir@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-regext-epp-registry-maintenance@ietf.org" References: <080828d8-fd4e-f2af-899f-fe6e3e27944c@NLnetLabs.nl> From: Benno Overeinder In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Int-dir] late int-dir review of draft-ietf-regext-epp-registry-maintenance X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:09:55 -0000 Hi Jody, Thanks for your reply. Your changes cover all my feedback. Best regards, -- Benno On 25/10/2021 13:58, Jody Kolker wrote: > Hi Beeno, > > Thanks for your review of the draft. We will remove the abbreviation from section 1.1 and replace the paragraph with: > > Original: > "maint" is used as an abbreviation for "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:epp: > maintenance-1.0". The XML namespace prefix "maint" is used, but > implementations MUST NOT depend on it. Instead, they are to employ a > proper namespace-aware XML parser and serializer to interpret and > output the XML documents. > > New: > The XML namespace prefix "maint" is used for the namespace > "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:epp:maintenance-1.0", but implementations > MUST NOT depend on it and instead employ a proper namespace-aware XML > parser and serializer to interpret and output the XML documents. > > > We will also address the reference of 5646 in the maint:id paragraph: > > Original: > > The server unique identifier for the maintenance event with the > OPTIONAL "name" attribute that includes a human-readable name of > the event. The server unique identifier SHALL NOT be changed if > the event is updated or deleted. When the "name" attribute is set, > the OPTIONAL "lang" attribute MAY be present to identify the > language if the negotiated value is something other than the > default value of "en" (English). > > New: > > The server unique identifier for the maintenance event with the > OPTIONAL "name" attribute that includes a human-readable name of > the event. The server unique identifier SHALL NOT be changed if > the event is updated or deleted. When the "name" attribute is set, > the OPTIONAL "lang" attribute, per the language > structure in [RFC5646], MAY be present to identify the > language if the negotiated value is something other than the > default value of "en" (English). > > We will also add the Normative Reference: > > [RFC5646] Phillips, A., Ed. and M. Davis, Ed., "Tags for Identifying > Languages", BCP 47, RFC 5646, DOI 10.17487/RFC5646, > September 2009, . > > Please let us know if you have any questions. > > Thanks, > Jody Kolker. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Benno Overeinder > Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 5:15 PM > To: int-dir@ietf.org; draft-ietf-regext-epp-registry-maintenance@ietf.org > Subject: late int-dir review of draft-ietf-regext-epp-registry-maintenance > > [Some people who received this message don't often get email from benno@nlnetlabs.nl. Learn why this is important at http://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification.] > > Caution: This email is from an external sender. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Forward suspicious emails to isitbad@. > > > > Intdir Review draft-ietf-regext-epp-registry-maintenance-19 > > Note: The review is sent directly to the int-dir mailing list and the authors. Due to the late submission of the review, it was not possible to submit it via datatracker. > > I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-regext-epp-registry-maintenance-19. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area Directors. > Document editors and shepherd(s) should treat these comments just like they would treat comments from any other IETF contributors and resolve them along with any other Last Call comments that have been received. > For more details on the INT Directorate, see https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fgroup%2Fintdir%2Fabout%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cjkolker%40godaddy.com%7C678435050217456e78dd08d9973bc255%7Cd5f1622b14a345a6b069003f8dc4851f%7C0%7C0%7C637707105338035288%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=fmzvJGLzr8VpaMypy%2B3vOCc8ogZ1gQI1vCcw8ZwVvYw%3D&reserved=0. > > Overall, I find the document well written and understandable. I only have questions on clarifications and think the draft is ready with nits for publication. > > In Section 1.1, there is some confusion on my part (and I see from another reviewer too) with the comment: "maint" is used as an abbreviation for "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:epp:maintenance-1.0". Is "abbreviation" the right word for the association of the "maint" > prefix with the namespace? > > Section 3.3 and further, the values for the OPTIONAL "lang" attribute are define in RFC 5646/ISO 639-1? Maybe be explicit about this? > > Best, > > -- Benno Overeinder > -- Benno J. Overeinder NLnet Labs https://www.nlnetlabs.nl/ From nobody Mon Oct 25 14:45:20 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: int-dir@ietf.org Delivered-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5196B3A0FAE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 14:45:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Carlos Bernardos via Datatracker To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.39.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bevolz@gmail.com, cjbc@it.uc3m.es, Carlos Bernardos Message-ID: <163519830922.9261.18398054210199996912@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 14:45:09 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Int-dir] Open review assignments in intdir X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 21:45:16 -0000 Hi all, The following reviewers have assignments: For telechat 2021-10-28 Reviewer LC end Draft Ron Bonica 2021-09-03 draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements-13 Suresh Krishnan 2021-09-07 draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-14 Last calls: Reviewer LC end Draft Ron Bonica 2021-09-03 draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements-13 Suresh Krishnan 2021-09-07 draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-14 Charles Perkins 2021-09-07 draft-ietf-bess-evpn-bum-procedure-updates-11 Next in the reviewer rotation: Zhen Cao Tim Chown Jean-Michel Combes Donald Eastlake Brian Haberman Wassim Haddad Bob Halley Bob Hinden Sheng Jiang Tatuya Jinmei As a helpful reference for reviewers, please check the Directorates Guidelines available at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/DirectoratesGuidelines Reviews must include the following boilerplate text in the comments sent: "I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for . 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I have the following DISCUSS/ABSTAIN level issues: The following are other issues I found with this document that SHOULD be corrected before publication: The following are minor issues (typos, misspelling, minor text improvements) with the document: -8-<- END TEMPLATE -8-<- From nobody Tue Oct 26 07:31:58 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: int-dir@ietf.org Delivered-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49203A120B; Tue, 26 Oct 2021 07:31:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ron Bonica via Datatracker To: Cc: dnsop@ietf.org, draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements.all@ietf.org, last-call@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.39.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <163525871173.1030.16161392292757402668@ietfa.amsl.com> Reply-To: Ron Bonica Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 07:31:51 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Int-dir] Intdir telechat review of draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements-13 X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 14:31:52 -0000 Reviewer: Ron Bonica Review result: Ready Looks well thought out. No glaring problems.