From owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Thu May 23 06:55:10 2002 Received: from pheriche.sun.com (pheriche.sun.com [192.18.98.34]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA03800 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 06:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.25]) by pheriche.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09187; Thu, 23 May 2002 04:54:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id DAA29142; Thu, 23 May 2002 03:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4NAsKrP007060 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 03:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3/Submit) id g4NAsK1Z007058 for ion-dist; Thu, 23 May 2002 03:54:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunroof.eng.sun.com: majordomo set sender to owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com using -f Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2 [129.146.1.25]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4NAsFrP007043; Thu, 23 May 2002 03:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.43]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id DAA28986; Thu, 23 May 2002 03:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vivacenetworks.com ([64.221.212.130]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA13432; Thu, 23 May 2002 04:55:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AMALIS.vivacenetworks.com ([10.122.19.100]) by vivacenetworks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Thu, 23 May 2002 03:55:04 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020523064027.0380bc38@po1.vivacenetworks.com> X-Sender: vivacenet\amalis@po1.vivacenetworks.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 06:54:09 -0400 To: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com, ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com From: "Andrew G. Malis" Subject: (ION) KLEZ worm on the frnetmib email list, time to shut down the lists Cc: Andy.Malis@VivaceNetworks.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2002 10:55:04.0539 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B61B2B0:01C20248] Sender: owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/ion/ Hello, former frnetmib-ers and ion-ers. These two lists has been, for whatever reason, EXTREMELY popular for attempted spam and virus attacks. However, I've had list filtering in place since day one and the only person seeing all this activity was me. However, given the KLEZ worm's ability to send messages with forged real addresses collected from newsgroups and other sources, it was inevitable that a message would make it through sooner or later with a forged address that was actually on the list, which is what happened last night on the message with the subject line "(FRNETMIB) So cool a flash,enjoy it". I trust that you're all smart enough to not open the attachment, and I urge you to keep your virus software updated. That leads to my next part of this message. I haven't seen a real message on the lists for a very long time. In fact, you've probably even forgotten that you're on either one or both of them. So I'm going to shut them down within the next few days. I just wanted one last chance to thank all of you that have contributed to both working groups in the past. All my best, Andy Former chair, frnetmib & ion working groups X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe ion' in the body of the message. From owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Thu May 23 16:35:21 2002 Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA26237 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 16:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.13]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01438; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:36:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id NAA09480; Thu, 23 May 2002 13:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4NKYkrP010902 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 13:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3/Submit) id g4NKYkdH010901 for ion-dist; Thu, 23 May 2002 13:34:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunroof.eng.sun.com: majordomo set sender to owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com using -f Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2 [129.146.1.25]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4NKYirP010894 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 13:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kathmandu.sun.com (kathmandu.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.36]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id NAA02815 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 13:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com (slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com [12.13.237.21]) by kathmandu.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00925 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:34:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com ([192.76.190.6]) by slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com (8.9.2/8.8.5-M2) with ESMTP id NAA09849; Thu, 23 May 2002 13:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blv-hub-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/MBS-AV-01) with ESMTP id PAA06556; Thu, 23 May 2002 15:34:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from xch-phl-02p.ne.nos.boeing.com (xch-phl-02p.ne.nos.boeing.com [128.225.22.4]) by blv-hub-01.boeing.com (8.11.3/8.11.3/MBS-LDAP-01) with ESMTP id g4NKYjH00065; Thu, 23 May 2002 13:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by xch-phl-02p.ne.nos.boeing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 23 May 2002 16:34:45 -0400 Message-ID: <8D6509B44ACCEB43A96E032B9C3EA0C8078A3939@xch-ne-02.ne.nos.boeing.com> From: "Manfredi, Albert E" To: "'Andrew G. Malis'" , ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Subject: RE: (ION) KLEZ worm on the frnetmib email list, time to shut down the lists Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 16:35:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/ion/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew G. Malis [mailto:Andy.Malis@VivaceNetworks.com] [ ... ] > That leads to my next part of this message. I haven't seen a > real message > on the lists for a very long time. In fact, you've probably > even forgotten > that you're on either one or both of them. So I'm going to > shut them down > within the next few days. I just wanted one last chance to > thank all of > you that have contributed to both working groups in the past. Hi Andy, As far as I'm concerned, ION was one of the most enjoyable of IETF wg and lists. A shame its time has come. But as you say, it has. IP-Optical took over where ION left off, in a sense, and ATM is where it is. Thanks for the hard work and for providing the venue for those colorful debates! Bert albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe ion' in the body of the message. From owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Thu May 23 17:46:14 2002 Received: from pheriche.sun.com (pheriche.sun.com [192.18.98.34]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA28571 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 17:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.25]) by pheriche.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20985; Thu, 23 May 2002 15:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id OAA04777; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4NLjlrP011523 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3/Submit) id g4NLjlAw011522 for ion-dist; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200205232145.g4NLjlAw011522@sunroof.eng.sun.com> X-Authentication-Warning: sunroof.eng.sun.com: majordomo set sender to owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 22:59:20 +0200 From: Mohsen Souissi To: "Manfredi, Albert E" Cc: "'Andrew G. Malis'" , ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Subject: Re: (ION) KLEZ worm on the frnetmib email list, time to shut down the lists Message-ID: <20020523225920.A10164@kerkenna.nic.fr> References: <8D6509B44ACCEB43A96E032B9C3EA0C8078A3939@xch-ne-02.ne.nos.boeing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <8D6509B44ACCEB43A96E032B9C3EA0C8078A3939@xch-ne-02.ne.nos.boeing.com>; Sender: owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/ion/ On 23 May, Manfredi, Albert E wrote: | > -----Original Message----- | > From: Andrew G. Malis [mailto:Andy.Malis@VivaceNetworks.com] | | [ ... ] | | > That leads to my next part of this message. I haven't seen a | > real message | > on the lists for a very long time. In fact, you've probably | > even forgotten | > that you're on either one or both of them. So I'm going to | > shut them down | > within the next few days. I just wanted one last chance to | > thank all of | > you that have contributed to both working groups in the past. | | Hi Andy, | | As far as I'm concerned, ION was one of the most enjoyable of IETF | wg and lists. A shame its time has come. But as you say, it | has. IP-Optical took over where ION left off, in a sense, and ATM is | where it is. ==> As far as I am concerned, ION work and especially MARS and IPv6/ATM are cited from time to time in ipv6 and ngtrans WGs... May we hope to see one day part or all of that work in Draft Standard state for they qre still in PS state ;-) Cheers, Mohsen. X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe ion' in the body of the message. From owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Thu May 23 17:47:54 2002 Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (nwkea-mail-2.sun.com [192.18.42.14]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA28649 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 17:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.25]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00149; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id OAA05588; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4NLktrP011567 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3/Submit) id g4NLktoQ011566 for ion-dist; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:46:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunroof.eng.sun.com: majordomo set sender to owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com using -f Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail1 [129.146.1.13]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4NLkrrP011553 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.42.14]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id OAA04798 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vivacenetworks.com ([64.221.212.130]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29728 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from AMALIS.vivacenetworks.com ([10.120.0.2] RDNS failed) by vivacenetworks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Thu, 23 May 2002 14:47:47 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020523174622.06877bb8@po1.vivacenetworks.com> X-Sender: vivacenet\amalis@po1.vivacenetworks.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 17:46:53 -0400 To: "Manfredi, Albert E" From: "Andrew G. Malis" Subject: RE: (ION) KLEZ worm on the frnetmib email list, time to shut down the lists Cc: "'Andrew G. Malis'" , ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com In-Reply-To: <8D6509B44ACCEB43A96E032B9C3EA0C8078A3939@xch-ne-02.ne.nos. boeing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2002 21:47:47.0828 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A855B40:01C202A3] Sender: owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/ion/ Bert, Thanks. Hope you're not too overwhelmed by the mass of bounces .... :-) Cheers, Andy ----- At 5/23/2002 04:35 PM -0400, Manfredi, Albert E wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrew G. Malis [mailto:Andy.Malis@VivaceNetworks.com] > >[ ... ] > > > That leads to my next part of this message. I haven't seen a > > real message > > on the lists for a very long time. In fact, you've probably > > even forgotten > > that you're on either one or both of them. So I'm going to > > shut them down > > within the next few days. I just wanted one last chance to > > thank all of > > you that have contributed to both working groups in the past. > >Hi Andy, > >As far as I'm concerned, ION was one of the most enjoyable of IETF wg and >lists. A shame its time has come. But as you say, it has. IP-Optical took >over where ION left off, in a sense, and ATM is where it is. > >Thanks for the hard work and for providing the venue for those colorful >debates! > >Bert >albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe ion' in the body of the message. From owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Thu May 23 17:51:33 2002 Received: from pheriche.sun.com (pheriche.sun.com [192.18.98.34]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA28731 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 17:51:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.25]) by pheriche.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23674; Thu, 23 May 2002 15:51:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id OAA07901; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4NLpErP011986 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3/Submit) id g4NLpE9t011985 for ion-dist; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:51:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunroof.eng.sun.com: majordomo set sender to owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com using -f Received: from engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail4 [129.144.134.6]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.3+Sun/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4NLpCrP011978 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.42.14]) by engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id OAA14947 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vivacenetworks.com ([64.221.212.130]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01885 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 14:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from AMALIS.vivacenetworks.com ([10.120.0.2] RDNS failed) by vivacenetworks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Thu, 23 May 2002 14:52:06 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020523174930.06879de0@po1.vivacenetworks.com> X-Sender: vivacenet\amalis@po1.vivacenetworks.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 17:51:12 -0400 To: Mohsen Souissi From: "Andrew G. Malis" Subject: Re: (ION) KLEZ worm on the frnetmib email list, time to shut down the lists Cc: "Manfredi, Albert E" , "'Andrew G. Malis'" , ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com In-Reply-To: <20020523225920.A10164@kerkenna.nic.fr> References: <8D6509B44ACCEB43A96E032B9C3EA0C8078A3939@xch-ne-02.ne.nos.boeing.com> <8D6509B44ACCEB43A96E032B9C3EA0C8078A3939@xch-ne-02.ne.nos.boeing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2002 21:52:07.0161 (UTC) FILETIME=[15186E90:01C202A4] Sender: owner-ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to ion@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/ion/ Mohsen, That's really an IETF-wide question; there are very many PS RFCs that need advancing but without a proper venue. I'm going to ping the IESG list on how to best proceed. Cheers, Andy ------ At 5/23/2002 10:59 PM +0200, Mohsen Souissi wrote: >==> As far as I am concerned, ION work and especially MARS and >IPv6/ATM are cited from time to time in ipv6 and ngtrans WGs... May we >hope to see one day part or all of that work in Draft Standard state >for they qre still in PS state ;-) > >Cheers, > >Mohsen. X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe ion' in the body of the message.