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----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C8AFCF.08C0C000-- From owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Thu May 15 15:25:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipdvb-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipdvb-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A423A6916 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 15:25:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bErZvwjcv2kJ for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 15:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from erg.abdn.ac.uk (dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk [139.133.204.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257843A6A3A for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 15:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4EDGpQk002284 for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 14:16:51 +0100 (BST) Received: (from majordomo.lists@localhost) by dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.12.2/Submit) id m4EDGpUa002283 for ipdvb-subscribed-users; Wed, 14 May 2008 14:16:51 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk: majordomo.lists set sender to owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk using -f Received: from Gorry-Fairhursts-Laptop.local ([158.109.91.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4EDGVPP002252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 14 May 2008 14:16:33 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <482AE630.3080703@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:16:32 +0200 From: Gorry Fairhurst Organization: The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk CC: gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk Subject: 72nd IETF - Working Group/BOF Scheduling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ERG-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk X-ERG-MailScanner-From: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Dear all, The next IETF meeting will be in Dublin: http://www.ietf.org/meetings/72/ The ipdvb WG could meet at this meeting, if there is work that needs to be discussed. I would like to know if any authors or WG members wish to present a draft to the ipdvb WG at the next IETF meeting in Dublin. If you have authored an I-D, which you think should be considered by the ipdvb WG, or intend to publish one before the meeting, then please do contact me as WG Chair. Best wishes, Gorry IPDVB WG Chair For more information on scheduling Working Group and BOF sessions, please refer to RFC 2418 (BCP 25), "IETF Working Group Guidelines and Procedures" (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2418.txt). =============================================================== -- Dr Gorry Fairhurst, School of Engineering. The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland No SC013683. From owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Sat May 17 00:43:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipdvb-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipdvb-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C805628C355 for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 00:43:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vUFsFS0A1cl0 for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 00:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from erg.abdn.ac.uk (dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk [139.133.204.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFB528C353 for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 00:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4H6skke005023 for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 07:54:46 +0100 (BST) Received: (from majordomo.lists@localhost) by dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.12.2/Submit) id m4H6skXD005022 for ipdvb-subscribed-users; Sat, 17 May 2008 07:54:46 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk: majordomo.lists set sender to owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk using -f Received: from Gorry-Fairhursts-Laptop.local (fgrpf.plus.com [212.159.18.54]) (authenticated bits=0) by erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4H6sPFO004994 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 17 May 2008 07:54:26 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <482E8121.5080703@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 07:54:25 +0100 From: Gorry Fairhurst Organization: The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk CC: "H.Cruickshank@surrey.ac.uk" , S.Iyengar@surrey.ac.uk, p.pillai@Bradford.ac.uk Subject: Comments on draft-ietf-ipdvb-sec-req-06 (editorial) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ERG-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk X-ERG-MailScanner-From: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Here are some editorial NiTs, which I'd like you to consider in preparing the next revision of the document. Best wishes, Gorry Fairhurst. ------ Overall NiTS: - The words /Receiver/ and /Receivers/ should be capitilised for consistency. - The words /ULE stream/ and /ULE streams/ should be capitilised for consistency. - The words /Header Extension/ should be changed to /Extension Header/ and all occurences should be capitilised for consistency with RFC5163. - The words /extension format/ should be changed to /Extension Header format/ - [ID-EXT] should be replaced by [RFC5163]. - I am confused about the difference between a ULE Stream (as defined in RFC4326, and a ULE link). If there is no difference, can we change all to /ULE Stream/? ======= Abstract: /... multicast transmission./ - Please add: /The analysis also describes applicability to the Generic Stream Encapsulation (GSE) defined by the Digital Video Broadcasting (DVB) Project./ --- Page 3. The scenarios are labeled 1,2,..., however in RFC 4259, these are labeled A,B,C,... Maintaining a consistent labeling could help cross-referencing. --- Page 3: /This can be typically satellite-based and star-based utilising a Hub station to deliver a common bit stream to medium-sized groups of receivers. / --- /Point-to-Point/ - Please add: /This connectivity may be provided using a pair of transmit and receive interfaces./ --- /This can be typically satellite-based and star-based utilising a Hub station to deliver a common bit stream to medium-sized groups of receivers. / - I think this "typically" could be disputed, and this should be an example place after the following sentence. --- /both unidirectional as well as bidirectional links for the scenarios mentioned above./ - Please clarify, e.g. /(A,B,C,D) and bidirectional (E,F) links for these scenarios./ --- Page 8: /like IPSec/ - change to /e.g. IPSec/ --- /rely on security assumptions as of wired links/ - can I suggest the following? /may make the same security assumptions as for wired links [RFC3819]/ --- / networks which are / ^^^^^ - please change /which/ to /that/ --- page 8: / ULE link security focuses only on the security between/ - change to /ULE Link Security only concerns the secuirty between/ --- page 8: /governmental users/ - please change to: /users requiring high assurance of security (e.g. government use)/ --- Page 8: / Hence for such cases the confidentiality and integrity of the user data will already be taken care of by / - English needs to be improved, suggest: / Hence for such cases, the requirements for confidentiality and integrity of the user data will be met by / --- Page 9: / are considered the major threats. An example of such a threat is/ could be simplified to: / are the major threats. One example is/ --- Page 9: /; an intruder can gain information by determining/ could be simplified to: /allowing an intruder to determine/ --- Page 10: /the security threat cases can be abstracted into three cases/ could be simplified to: /the security threats can be abstracted into three cases/ --- Page 11: / This is normally receiver to hub authentication and it could/ - "hub" - not sure what this word means here? - The document should be agnostic to the choice of physical layer. - Are we talking about the encapsulator, key management system, or what? --- /[ISO-8802, IEEE-802]./ - Please change to: /[ISO-8802], [IEEE-802]./ --- /GReq (g)/ - Add missing stop to end of sentence. --- Case 2: /to monitor most denial/ ^^^^ - delete most? or replace by "common"? --- /and apply to all the scenarios above, where appropriate./ - Either delete this, or explain what you mean (preferably before the start of the list). - At the moment this says it always applies, except when it does not. --- Page 13: /This would help in the design of the ULE Security extension header. For example this could help in the selection of security fields in the ULE Security extension Header design./ - please simplify to: /This may assist in selecting security fields for design of a ULE Security Extension Header/ --- Page 13: / Moreover the security services could also be grouped into profiles based on different security requirements. One example is to have a base profile which does payload encryption and identity protection. The second profile could do the above as well as source authentication. / - please simplify to: / Security services may be grouped into profiles based on the security requirements, e.g. base profile (with payload encryption and identity protection) and a second profile could that extends this to also provide source authentication./ --- DoS is used in table. but not previously defined (it looks like this should be defined on page 9). --- --- Section 6., page 14: / The [ID-EXT] document describes two new Header / ^^^^^^ ^^^^ - RFC 5136 defines three. --- /and specifically for DVB-S2 [ID-EXT]./ - delete above. --- /It might be desirable to authenticate some/all of the headers; such decision can be part of the security policy for the MPEG-2 transmission network./ - This seems rather vague. Are the headers you mention GSE headers? - which security policy? (note: this would not be a MPEG-2 one). --- Section 7: /It also defines/ - delete also. --- --- /between a ULE Encapsulation Gateway to Receivers/ ^^ change to: /between a ULE Encapsulation Gateway and the corresponding Receiver(s)/ --- /End-to-end security mechanism may then be used additionally and independently for providing strong authentication of the end-points in the communication. / - I suggest omitting this, since this seems covered by the first clause in the paragraph. --- Section 8: /(out of scope) such as:/ change to: /(i.e. are out of scope), e.g.:/ --- Section 10: /from University of Salzburg./ to: /(University of Salzburg)./ --- These words appear in Appendix A: / There could be other extension headers (either mandatory or optional). It is RECOMMENDED that these are placed after the security extension header. This permits full protection for all headers. It avoids situations where the SNDU has to be discarded on processing the security extension header, while preceding headers have already have been evaluated. One exception is the Timestamp extension which SHOULD precede the security extension header [ID- EXT]. When applying the security services for example confidentiality, input to the cipher algorithm will cover the fields from the end of the security extension header to the end of the PDU./ - I like them, and think they follow RFC5163, but I do not think you're allowed to use RFC 2119 keywords on requirements in an appendix. Could you consider moving these to follow the words in GReq (g)? --- Appendix B: /section compares the disadvantages when security functionalities are present in different layers./ Change to: /section compares the placement of security functionalities in different layers./ --- Please add a citation in section 6 to the following new informative reference: [GSE] TS 102 606 "Digital Video Broadcasting (DVB); Generic Stream Encapsulation (GSE) Protocol, "European Telecommunication Standards, Institute (ETSI), 2007. --- I suspect [RFC4326] is a normative reference (rather than informative). =================== -End- -- Dr Gorry Fairhurst, School of Engineering. The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland No SC013683. From owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Sat May 17 00:47:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipdvb-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipdvb-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AAD3A682D for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 00:47:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jD8fecsx00OJ for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 00:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from erg.abdn.ac.uk (dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk [139.133.204.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E39128C355 for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 00:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4H6snQ9005035 for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 07:54:49 +0100 (BST) Received: (from majordomo.lists@localhost) by dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.12.2/Submit) id m4H6snq6005034 for ipdvb-subscribed-users; Sat, 17 May 2008 07:54:49 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk: majordomo.lists set sender to owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk using -f Received: from Gorry-Fairhursts-Laptop.local (fgrpf.plus.com [212.159.18.54]) (authenticated bits=0) by erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4H6sM9e004992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 17 May 2008 07:54:22 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <482E811E.1040502@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 07:54:22 +0100 From: Gorry Fairhurst Organization: The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk CC: S.Iyengar@surrey.ac.uk, p.pillai@Bradford.ac.uk, "H.Cruickshank@surrey.ac.uk" Subject: Comments on draft-ietf-ipdvb-sec-req-06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ERG-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Sender: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk X-ERG-MailScanner-From: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Thank you for preparing a response to the SECDIR review. I've now had time to read the new revision and consider the review comments. I think there are still some areas where the language could be further improved - especially to clarify the requirements. My comments follow. Some of these are minor editorial (which I shall forward separately), some detailed comments may require proposing new text. Most of these comments stem from the need to clarify the requirements. I suggest that you quickly prepare a new revision that addresses these concerns and any others raised by the group, and we can then put the revised document to a short WGLC before sending to the IESG. Best wishes, Gorry ---- Overall comments: Page 8: * /Examining the threat cases in section 3.3, / - This section makes requirements. It looks like a summary, if it is a summary it probably should not use keywords, since these requirements have already been defined earlier? - How best should these paragraphs be best formatted? --- Page 11: * I wonder whether the May Requirements for 2,3,4,5 have really been captured correctly? I can see what you are saying, but at the same time, I think you would agree that the framework MUST or SHOULD support these functions, but their use is OPTIONAL, depending on the profile. Can you think of a better way to express this? --- Page 13: * The three cases on page 13 appear also to introduce RFC 2119 requirements. I find this confusing (as did the SECDIR reviewer). I can see what you are trying to do here (and this seems to be heading towards two (or more?) profiles, but it does not quite work for me, yet. ---- ======= --- page 8: /could still have to employ approved cryptographic equipment at the network layer or above, unless a manufacturer of ULE Link Security equipment obtains governmental approval for their implementation./ - True in a way, but I think this could be clearer... - Is this any better: /will need to employ approved cryptographic equipment (e.g. at the network layer). An implementation of ULE Link Security equipment could also be certified for use by specific user communities./ --- In section 3.1, page 8: / where the two end-points are not under central control / - Are these IP end-points or ULE end-points (i.e. Encapsulator and Receiver)? - I saw this discussion on the mailing list, but the final text seems to need some re-wording. --- Page 8: - I can not recall the history of: / In contrast to the above, if a ULE Stream is used to directly join networks which are considered physically secure, for example branch offices to a central office, ULE link Security could be the sole provider of confidentiality and integrity. In this scenario, governmental users could still have to employ approved cryptographic equipment at the network layer or above, unless a manufacturer of ULE Link Security equipment obtains governmental approval for their implementation./ - /join/ seems the wrong word, could it be "link" - /which/that/ - I also find this last case rather confusing, could we perhaps simplify this to: /When a ULE Stream connects two offices to a central office, ULE link Security could be the sole provider of confidentiality and integrity. / - Even in this case, I am not sure why we need to say this. I have some doubts whether ULE Link-Layer security really satisfies this need, and would probably prefer to recommend additional higher layer methods. --- Page 10: / Req 1. Data confidentiality MUST be considered in order to/ - Do you need to consider, or provide? (I think the latter) - I suggest: / Req 1. Data confidentiality MUST be provided by a link that supports ULE Stream Security to/ --- Page 11: / Req 5. Layer L2 ULE Source and Receiver authentication MAY / - this worries me. - Do you wish to justify this choice? - I suspect that key authentication is a SHOULD when bidirectional communication is provided, although at the link layer authentication of individual packets is not a strong requirement because there is a single ULE Encapsulator feeding each ULE stream. --- / Other general requirements are:/ - I guess you mean by this that these are required for all threat cases for link-layer security? - Please clarify. --- /GReq (a) ULE key management functions SHALL be decoupled/ - Agreed can you chnage /SHALL/MUST/ --- /GReq (b,c)/c - Seems good --- /GReq (d,e)/ - These properties do not seem to be requirements at the link layer, but more system-wide requirements. I am not sure what value they have in this document. --- /GReq (e)/ - I am not sure how you propose to satisfy this requirement? - It seems quite general, and something that needs consideration at the system level, do we need to explicitly call this out in the document? --- /GReq (f) The security system MUST be compatible networking functions such as NAT Network Address Translation.../ - Not sure I would agree, and anyway how can this be a MUST for /TCP acceleration/ when this defines a set of various methods.? - My suggestion would be to eliminate this requirement and if you really want to, then make it a comment, rather than a requirement. I'd suggest that NAT and PEP interactions are problem-spaces in themselves, and it may be best to discount these from this document. --- /GReq (h)/ - The use of MAY here is not dictating a requirement, you need to rephrase this. I am also not sure what this requirement requires, is this saying we need to do this in some case, or may do something, I am not sure. --- Table 1 would be more valuable if it directly follows the above. - please change /Dos/ to /DoS/ or /DOS/ - There are also some slight formatting problems that I tried to correct: Please view in a fixed-width font such as Monaco or Courier. Mitigation of Threat +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ |Data | Data |Source |Data |Intru |Iden | |Privacy| fresh |Authent|Integ |sion |tity | | | ness |ication|rity |Dete |Prote | | | | | |ction |ction | Attack | | | | | | | +--------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ |Monitoring | X | - | - | - | - | X | +--------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ |Masquerading | X | - | X | X | - | X | +--------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ |Replay Attacks| - | X | X | X | X | - | +--------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ |Dos Attacks | - | X | X | X | X | - | +--------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ |Modification | - | - | X | X | X | - | |of Messages | | | | | | | +--------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ - I also wonder whether this would be improved by linking two the two profiles - i.e. say which Threats Attacks are considered in each profile. p Mitigation of Threat r +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ o |Data | Data |Source |Data |Intru |Iden | f |Privacy| fresh |Authent|Integ |sion |tity | i | | ness |ication|rity |Dete |Prote | l | | | | |ction |ction | Attack e | | | | | | | +--------------+---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ |Monitoring | 1 | X | - | - | - | - | X | +--------------+---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ |Masquerading | 1 | X | - | X | X | - | X | +--------------+---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ |Replay Attacks|1,2| - | X | X | X | X | - | +--------------+---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ |Dos Attacks |1,2| - | X | X | X | X | - | +--------------+---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ |Modification |1,2| - | - | X | X | X | - | |of Messages | | | | | | | | +--------------+---+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+------+ Would this work? - or not? - Are these correct assignments to the two profiles? - Are there more than 2 profiles? - Does identity hiding also counter masquerading? --- section 7: /optional requirement/ - The SECDIR review commented on this. - I think the requirement is that framework must support the optional ability to provide... --- /This is optional because of the associated overheads for the extra features and they are only required for specific service cases./ - need to be clear /This set of features are optional to reduce encapsulation overhead when these features are not required./ -End- -- Dr Gorry Fairhurst, School of Engineering. The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland No SC013683. 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