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Best regards,

Pascal PECCI, Ph D
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D</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"fr"><FONT FACE=3D"FuturaA Bk BT">Ing=E9nieur de =
recherche / Research Engineer</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG=3D"fr"><FONT FACE=3D"FuturaA Bk BT">Alcatel Lucent =
France</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"fr"><FONT FACE=3D"FuturaA Bk BT">Bell Labs =
Villarceaux</FONT></SPAN>
</P>

<P><SPAN LANG=3D"fr"><FONT FACE=3D"FuturaA Bk BT">(+33) 1 30 77 74 =
91</FONT></SPAN>

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D</FONT></SPAN>

<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"fr"><FONT FACE=3D"FuturaA Bk BT">Ing=E9nieur de =
recherche / Research Engineer</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG=3D"fr"><FONT FACE=3D"FuturaA Bk BT">Alcatel Lucent =
France</FONT></SPAN>

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Dan
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________________________________

	From: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ipfix-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf =
Of PECCI PASCAL
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=09
=09

	Dear all,=20

	I recently read documents concerning drafts and RFC of IPFIX. It is =
underlined that no remote configuration of IPFIX device (end of p4 of =
architecture draft for example) will be available with this protocol . =
As the definition of the protocol is on-going, do you intend to improve =
this protocol and include this characteristic ?

	Best regagards,=20

	Pascal PECCI, Ph D=20
	Ing=E9nieur de recherche / Research Engineer=20

	Alcatel Lucent France=20
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  <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> ipfix-bounces@ietf.org=20
  [mailto:ipfix-bounces@ietf.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>PECCI=20
  PASCAL<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:15 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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  <P><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear all,</FONT></SPAN> =
</P>
  <P><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I recently read =
documents concerning=20
  drafts and RFC of IPFIX. It is underlined that no remote configuration =
of=20
  IPFIX device (end of p4 of architecture draft for example) will be =
available=20
  with this protocol . As the definition of the protocol is on-going, do =
you=20
  intend to improve this protocol and include this characteristic=20
  ?</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best =
regards,</FONT></SPAN> </P>
  <P><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3D"FuturaA Bk BT">Pascal PECCI, Ph =
D</FONT></SPAN>=20
  <BR><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3D"FuturaA Bk BT">Ing=E9nieur de =
recherche / Research=20
  Engineer</FONT></SPAN> </P>
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  France</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3D"FuturaA Bk =
BT">Bell Labs=20
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91</FONT></SPAN>=20
  <BR><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT=20
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rds,=20

	Pascal PECCI, Ph D=20
	Ing=E9nieur de recherche / Research Engineer=20

	Alcatel Lucent France=20
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href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-muenz-ipfix-configurati=
on-04.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-muenz-ipfix-configur=
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  [mailto:ipfix-bounces@ietf.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>PECCI=20
  PASCAL<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:15 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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  <P><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear all,</FONT></SPAN> =
</P>
  <P><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I recently read =
documents concerning=20
  drafts and RFC of IPFIX. It is underlined that no remote configuration =
of=20
  IPFIX device (end of p4 of architecture draft for example) will be =
available=20
  with this protocol . As the definition of the protocol is on-going, do =
you=20
  intend to improve this protocol and include this characteristic=20
  ?</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best =
regards,</FONT></SPAN> </P>
  <P><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3D"FuturaA Bk BT">Pascal PECCI, Ph =
D</FONT></SPAN>=20
  <BR><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3D"FuturaA Bk BT">Ing=E9nieur de =
recherche / Research=20
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  France</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3D"FuturaA Bk =
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  Villarceaux</FONT></SPAN> </P>
  <P><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT face=3D"FuturaA Bk BT">(+33) 1 30 77 74 =
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  <BR><SPAN lang=3Dfr><FONT=20
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Benoit, all,

I've reviewed the per-stream draft. Overall I like the draft and consider=
=20it ready for adoption as WG item. Comments below:

General Comment:
As already said during the IPFIX meeting in Philadelphia, I'd like to see=
=20a section on the limitations of this method and a few more words on it=
s applicability.=20
While the advantages are clearly listed, it is not clear=20
- to which set of applications this specification is targeted (this might=
=20be added in 2.1 Applicability),=20
- which limitations the method has.
=20

2. The introduction summarises the IPFIX protocol and then jumps to listi=
ng the advantages offered by this draft's specification. It would be nice=
=20and would help readability to have another paragraph between the two d=
escribing what the method in this draft is about.

3.1.1, 3rd paragraph:
Typos "...no way of knowing the which Template ID..."
"...now matter..."

3.1.2:
from Sequence Number Field --> from the Sequence Number Field

4.1, 4th paragraph:
The second sentence "If not sent reliably...", is not very clear. Rewordi=
ng might help

4.4, 4th paragraph, last sentence:
"If the SCTP stream only  contains Data Records from a single Template ID=
, the Data Records for that Template ID can be calculated."
--> Do you mean "the loss for the Data Records...can be calculated"?

5., 4th paragraph:
all IPFIX Message --> all IPFIX Messages

5., 5th paragraph:
Figure 3 show --> Figure 3 shows
an Template --> a Template

Hope it helps.

Sorry for the delay in posting these comments,

cheers,
Elisa

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Benoit, all,<BR>
<BR>
I've reviewed the per-stream draft. Overall I like the draft and consider=
=20it ready for adoption as WG item. Comments below:<BR>
<BR>
General Comment:<BR>
As already said during the IPFIX meeting in Philadelphia, I'd like to see=
=20a section on the limitations of this method and a few more words on it=
s applicability.<BR>
While the advantages are clearly listed, it is not clear<BR>
- to which set of applications this specification is targeted (this might=
=20be added in 2.1 Applicability),<BR>
- which limitations the method has.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
2. The introduction summarises the IPFIX protocol and then jumps to listi=
ng the advantages offered by this draft's specification. It would be nice=
=20and would help readability to have another paragraph between the two d=
escribing what the method in this draft is about.<BR>
<BR>
3.1.1, 3rd paragraph:<BR>
Typos &quot;...no way of knowing the which Template ID...&quot;<BR>
&quot;...now matter...&quot;<BR>
<BR>
3.1.2:<BR>
from Sequence Number Field --&gt; from the Sequence Number Field<BR>
<BR>
4.1, 4th paragraph:<BR>
The second sentence &quot;If not sent reliably...&quot;, is not very clea=
r. Rewording might help<BR>
<BR>
4.4, 4th paragraph, last sentence:<BR>
&quot;If the SCTP stream only&nbsp; contains Data Records from a single T=
emplate ID, the Data Records for that Template ID can be calculated.&quot=
;<BR>
--&gt; Do you mean &quot;the loss for the Data Records...can be calculate=
d&quot;?<BR>
<BR>
5., 4th paragraph:<BR>
all IPFIX Message --&gt; all IPFIX Messages<BR>
<BR>
5., 5th paragraph:<BR>
Figure 3 show --&gt; Figure 3 shows<BR>
an Template --&gt; a Template<BR>
<BR>
Hope it helps.<BR>
<BR>
Sorry for the delay in posting these comments,<BR>
<BR>
cheers,<BR>
Elisa<BR>
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Benoit, all,

I've reviewed the per-stream draft. Overall I like the draft and consider=
=20it ready for adoption as WG item. Comments below:

General Comment:
As already said during the IPFIX meeting in Philadelphia, I'd like to see=
=20a section on the limitations of this method and a few more words on it=
s applicability.=20
While the advantages are clearly listed, it is not clear=20
- to which set of applications this specification is targeted (this might=
=20be added in 2.1 Applicability),=20
- which limitations the method has.
=20

2. The introduction summarises the IPFIX protocol and then jumps to listi=
ng the advantages offered by this draft's specification. It would be nice=
=20and would help readability to have another paragraph between the two d=
escribing what the method in this draft is about.

3.1.1, 3rd paragraph:
Typos "...no way of knowing the which Template ID..."
"...now matter..."

3.1.2:
from Sequence Number Field --> from the Sequence Number Field

4.1, 4th paragraph:
The second sentence "If not sent reliably...", is not very clear. Rewordi=
ng might help

4.4, 4th paragraph, last sentence:
"If the SCTP stream only  contains Data Records from a single Template ID=
, the Data Records for that Template ID can be calculated."
--> Do you mean "the loss for the Data Records...can be calculated"?

5., 4th paragraph:
all IPFIX Message --> all IPFIX Messages

5., 5th paragraph:
Figure 3 show --> Figure 3 shows
an Template --> a Template

Hope it helps.

Sorry for the delay in posting these comments,

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Benoit, all,<BR>
<BR>
I've reviewed the per-stream draft. Overall I like the draft and consider=
=20it ready for adoption as WG item. Comments below:<BR>
<BR>
General Comment:<BR>
As already said during the IPFIX meeting in Philadelphia, I'd like to see=
=20a section on the limitations of this method and a few more words on it=
s applicability.<BR>
While the advantages are clearly listed, it is not clear<BR>
- to which set of applications this specification is targeted (this might=
=20be added in 2.1 Applicability),<BR>
- which limitations the method has.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
2. The introduction summarises the IPFIX protocol and then jumps to listi=
ng the advantages offered by this draft's specification. It would be nice=
=20and would help readability to have another paragraph between the two d=
escribing what the method in this draft is about.<BR>
<BR>
3.1.1, 3rd paragraph:<BR>
Typos &quot;...no way of knowing the which Template ID...&quot;<BR>
&quot;...now matter...&quot;<BR>
<BR>
3.1.2:<BR>
from Sequence Number Field --&gt; from the Sequence Number Field<BR>
<BR>
4.1, 4th paragraph:<BR>
The second sentence &quot;If not sent reliably...&quot;, is not very clea=
r. Rewording might help<BR>
<BR>
4.4, 4th paragraph, last sentence:<BR>
&quot;If the SCTP stream only&nbsp; contains Data Records from a single T=
emplate ID, the Data Records for that Template ID can be calculated.&quot=
;<BR>
--&gt; Do you mean &quot;the loss for the Data Records...can be calculate=
d&quot;?<BR>
<BR>
5., 4th paragraph:<BR>
all IPFIX Message --&gt; all IPFIX Messages<BR>
<BR>
5., 5th paragraph:<BR>
Figure 3 show --&gt; Figure 3 shows<BR>
an Template --&gt; a Template<BR>
<BR>
Hope it helps.<BR>
<BR>
Sorry for the delay in posting these comments,<BR>
<BR>
cheers,<BR>
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Dear all,

Thanks to co-authors and editing meeting members in IETF-71, I have written
up the first version IPFIX Mediation problem statement draft.

Thank you for your contribution.
This draft is related to all of IPFIX Mediation, such as aggregation,
anonymization, collector selection and flow selection, including
problems in large-scale network.

Your comments are welcome at any time.
Next, I will try to edit a framework draft followed by this draft. 

Atsushi KOBAYASHI

On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:30:02 -0700 (PDT)
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the IP Flow Information Export Working Group of the IETF.
> 
> 
> 	Title           : IPFIX Mediation: Problem Statement
> 	Author(s)       : A. Kobayashi, et al.
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement-00.txt
> 	Pages           : 22
> 	Date            : 2008-05-12
> 
> Flow-based measurement is currently a popular method for traffic
> monitoring.  To construct a measurement system, an IPFIX mediation
> device (IPFIX Mediator), which reroutes, filters, aggregates, or
> modifies Flow information, may help scalability and several other
> purposes.  This document describes the applicability of an IPFIX
> Mediator and the problems that the IPFIX Mediator might encounter.
> 
> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement-00.txt
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Dear all,

Thanks to co-authors and editing meeting members in IETF-71, I have written
up the first version IPFIX Mediation problem statement draft.

Thank you for your contribution.
This draft is related to all of IPFIX Mediation, such as aggregation,
anonymization, collector selection and flow selection, including
problems in large-scale network.

Your comments are welcome at any time.
Next, I will try to edit a framework draft followed by this draft. 

Atsushi KOBAYASHI

On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:30:02 -0700 (PDT)
Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:

> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the IP Flow Information Export Working Group of the IETF.
> 
> 
> 	Title           : IPFIX Mediation: Problem Statement
> 	Author(s)       : A. Kobayashi, et al.
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement-00.txt
> 	Pages           : 22
> 	Date            : 2008-05-12
> 
> Flow-based measurement is currently a popular method for traffic
> monitoring.  To construct a measurement system, an IPFIX mediation
> device (IPFIX Mediator), which reroutes, filters, aggregates, or
> modifies Flow information, may help scalability and several other
> purposes.  This document describes the applicability of an IPFIX
> Mediator and the problems that the IPFIX Mediator might encounter.
> 
> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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The IESG has approved the following document:

- 'Guidelines for IP Flow Information eXport (IPFIX) Testing '
   <draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-05.txt> as an Informational RFC

This document is the product of the IP Flow Information Export Working 
Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ron Bonica.

A URL of this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-05.txt

Technical Summary

   This document presents a list of tests for implementers of IP Flow
   Information Export (IPFIX) compliant Exporting Processes and
   Collecting Processes.  This document specifies guidelines for a
   series of tests that can be run on the IPFIX Exporting Process and
   Collecting Process in order to probe the conformity and robustness of
   the IPFIX protocol implementations.  These tests cover all important
   functions, in order to gain a level of confidence in the IPFIX
   implementation.  Therefore they allow the implementer to perform
   interoperability or plug tests with other IPFIX Exporting Processes
   and Collecting Processes.

Working Group Summary

   The IPFIX Working Group is in consensus in favor of publcihing this  
   document. Like the 'IPFIX Implementation Guidelines' document, this   
   document draws on experience gained from IPFIX interopability events. 

   It will be useful to implementors who need to enusre that their IPFIX
   implementations really do work correctly.
 
Document Quality

   The document is based on experience gained at interoperability 
   events. It was extensively reviewed within the IPFIX Working Group, and


   in the PSAMP WG. Dan Romascanu reviewed the document as AD. Joel 
   Halpern reviewed for GenART and his extensive comments were used to 
   generate the final version of the document. 

Personnel

   Nevil Brownlee is the PROTO shepherd. Dan Romascanu is the shepherding


   AD. 

RFC Editor Note

RFC Editor, please make the following changes: 

1) add to section 1 (before 1.1) the following text:

NEW: 

     The tests can be executed in a testbed environment or on a live
     network.

     However, care should be taken regarding the "stress/load test"
     and the "temporary network disconnect", as they might impact
     other systems in the network. We recommend that these specific tests
     should be executed only in a testbed environment.

2)

In section 3.1.1

OLD: 

The transmitted data might be observed on-line with an appropriate
   packet sniffing tool, such as Wireshark (www.wireshark.org).  

NEW:

The transmitted data might be observed on-line with an appropriate
   packet sniffing tool.



3) in section 3.4.1: 

OLD:

   The tester must check and if necessary improve the software so that
   the Templates and the associated Data Records are correctly received
   and decoded by the Collecting Process.

NEW:
   The tester must check that
   the Templates and the associated Data Records are correctly received
   and decoded by the Collecting Process.

4) In Section 3.7.1: 

OLD

   The tester must configure consistent forward (A, AAAA) and reverse
   (PTR) DNS records for each host in the test on a DNS server used by
   the hosts for name resolution.

NEW

  The tester must configure consistent forward (A, AAAA)
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  configure reverse (PTR) DNS records for the hosts,  as no part
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- 'Guidelines for IP Flow Information eXport (IPFIX) Testing '
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This document is the product of the IP Flow Information Export Working 
Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ron Bonica.

A URL of this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-05.txt

Technical Summary

   This document presents a list of tests for implementers of IP Flow
   Information Export (IPFIX) compliant Exporting Processes and
   Collecting Processes.  This document specifies guidelines for a
   series of tests that can be run on the IPFIX Exporting Process and
   Collecting Process in order to probe the conformity and robustness of
   the IPFIX protocol implementations.  These tests cover all important
   functions, in order to gain a level of confidence in the IPFIX
   implementation.  Therefore they allow the implementer to perform
   interoperability or plug tests with other IPFIX Exporting Processes
   and Collecting Processes.

Working Group Summary

   The IPFIX Working Group is in consensus in favor of publcihing this  
   document. Like the 'IPFIX Implementation Guidelines' document, this   
   document draws on experience gained from IPFIX interopability events. 

   It will be useful to implementors who need to enusre that their IPFIX
   implementations really do work correctly.
 
Document Quality

   The document is based on experience gained at interoperability 
   events. It was extensively reviewed within the IPFIX Working Group, and


   in the PSAMP WG. Dan Romascanu reviewed the document as AD. Joel 
   Halpern reviewed for GenART and his extensive comments were used to 
   generate the final version of the document. 

Personnel

   Nevil Brownlee is the PROTO shepherd. Dan Romascanu is the shepherding


   AD. 

RFC Editor Note

RFC Editor, please make the following changes: 

1) add to section 1 (before 1.1) the following text:

NEW: 

     The tests can be executed in a testbed environment or on a live
     network.

     However, care should be taken regarding the "stress/load test"
     and the "temporary network disconnect", as they might impact
     other systems in the network. We recommend that these specific tests
     should be executed only in a testbed environment.

2)

In section 3.1.1

OLD: 

The transmitted data might be observed on-line with an appropriate
   packet sniffing tool, such as Wireshark (www.wireshark.org).  

NEW:

The transmitted data might be observed on-line with an appropriate
   packet sniffing tool.



3) in section 3.4.1: 

OLD:

   The tester must check and if necessary improve the software so that
   the Templates and the associated Data Records are correctly received
   and decoded by the Collecting Process.

NEW:
   The tester must check that
   the Templates and the associated Data Records are correctly received
   and decoded by the Collecting Process.

4) In Section 3.7.1: 

OLD

   The tester must configure consistent forward (A, AAAA) and reverse
   (PTR) DNS records for each host in the test on a DNS server used by
   the hosts for name resolution.

NEW

  The tester must configure consistent forward (A, AAAA)
  DNS records for each host in the test on a DNS server used by
  the hosts for name resolution. Note that  there is no need to
  configure reverse (PTR) DNS records for the hosts,  as no part
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The IESG has approved the following document:

- 'Guidelines for IP Flow Information eXport (IPFIX) Testing '
   <draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-05.txt> as an Informational RFC

This document is the product of the IP Flow Information Export Working
Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ron Bonica.

A URL of this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-05.txt

Technical Summary

   This document presents a list of tests for implementers of IP Flow
   Information Export (IPFIX) compliant Exporting Processes and
   Collecting Processes.  This document specifies guidelines for a
   series of tests that can be run on the IPFIX Exporting Process and
   Collecting Process in order to probe the conformity and robustness of
   the IPFIX protocol implementations.  These tests cover all important
   functions, in order to gain a level of confidence in the IPFIX
   implementation.  Therefore they allow the implementer to perform
   interoperability or plug tests with other IPFIX Exporting Processes
   and Collecting Processes.

Working Group Summary

   The IPFIX Working Group is in consensus in favor of publcihing this  
   document. Like the 'IPFIX Implementation Guidelines' document, this

   document draws on experience gained from IPFIX interopability events.


   It will be useful to implementors who need to enusre that their IPFIX
   implementations really do work correctly.
 
Document Quality

   The document is based on experience gained at interoperability 
   events. It was extensively reviewed within the IPFIX Working Group,
and


   in the PSAMP WG. Dan Romascanu reviewed the document as AD. Joel 
   Halpern reviewed for GenART and his extensive comments were used to 
   generate the final version of the document. 

Personnel

   Nevil Brownlee is the PROTO shepherd. Dan Romascanu is the
shepherding


   AD. 

RFC Editor Note

RFC Editor, please make the following changes: 

1) add to section 1 (before 1.1) the following text:

NEW: 

     The tests can be executed in a testbed environment or on a live
     network.

     However, care should be taken regarding the "stress/load test"
     and the "temporary network disconnect", as they might impact
     other systems in the network. We recommend that these specific
tests
     should be executed only in a testbed environment.

2)

In section 3.1.1

OLD: 

The transmitted data might be observed on-line with an appropriate
   packet sniffing tool, such as Wireshark (www.wireshark.org).  

NEW:

The transmitted data might be observed on-line with an appropriate
   packet sniffing tool.



3) in section 3.4.1: 

OLD:

   The tester must check and if necessary improve the software so that
   the Templates and the associated Data Records are correctly received
   and decoded by the Collecting Process.

NEW:
   The tester must check that
   the Templates and the associated Data Records are correctly received
   and decoded by the Collecting Process.

4) In Section 3.7.1: 

OLD

   The tester must configure consistent forward (A, AAAA) and reverse
   (PTR) DNS records for each host in the test on a DNS server used by
   the hosts for name resolution.

NEW

  The tester must configure consistent forward (A, AAAA)
  DNS records for each host in the test on a DNS server used by
  the hosts for name resolution. Note that  there is no need to
  configure reverse (PTR) DNS records for the hosts,  as no part
  of the protocol uses reverse lookups.

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The IESG has approved the following document:

- 'Guidelines for IP Flow Information eXport (IPFIX) Testing '
   <draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-05.txt> as an Informational RFC

This document is the product of the IP Flow Information Export Working
Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ron Bonica.

A URL of this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-05.txt

Technical Summary

   This document presents a list of tests for implementers of IP Flow
   Information Export (IPFIX) compliant Exporting Processes and
   Collecting Processes.  This document specifies guidelines for a
   series of tests that can be run on the IPFIX Exporting Process and
   Collecting Process in order to probe the conformity and robustness of
   the IPFIX protocol implementations.  These tests cover all important
   functions, in order to gain a level of confidence in the IPFIX
   implementation.  Therefore they allow the implementer to perform
   interoperability or plug tests with other IPFIX Exporting Processes
   and Collecting Processes.

Working Group Summary

   The IPFIX Working Group is in consensus in favor of publcihing this  
   document. Like the 'IPFIX Implementation Guidelines' document, this

   document draws on experience gained from IPFIX interopability events.


   It will be useful to implementors who need to enusre that their IPFIX
   implementations really do work correctly.
 
Document Quality

   The document is based on experience gained at interoperability 
   events. It was extensively reviewed within the IPFIX Working Group,
and


   in the PSAMP WG. Dan Romascanu reviewed the document as AD. Joel 
   Halpern reviewed for GenART and his extensive comments were used to 
   generate the final version of the document. 

Personnel

   Nevil Brownlee is the PROTO shepherd. Dan Romascanu is the
shepherding


   AD. 

RFC Editor Note

RFC Editor, please make the following changes: 

1) add to section 1 (before 1.1) the following text:

NEW: 

     The tests can be executed in a testbed environment or on a live
     network.

     However, care should be taken regarding the "stress/load test"
     and the "temporary network disconnect", as they might impact
     other systems in the network. We recommend that these specific
tests
     should be executed only in a testbed environment.

2)

In section 3.1.1

OLD: 

The transmitted data might be observed on-line with an appropriate
   packet sniffing tool, such as Wireshark (www.wireshark.org).  

NEW:

The transmitted data might be observed on-line with an appropriate
   packet sniffing tool.



3) in section 3.4.1: 

OLD:

   The tester must check and if necessary improve the software so that
   the Templates and the associated Data Records are correctly received
   and decoded by the Collecting Process.

NEW:
   The tester must check that
   the Templates and the associated Data Records are correctly received
   and decoded by the Collecting Process.

4) In Section 3.7.1: 

OLD

   The tester must configure consistent forward (A, AAAA) and reverse
   (PTR) DNS records for each host in the test on a DNS server used by
   the hosts for name resolution.

NEW

  The tester must configure consistent forward (A, AAAA)
  DNS records for each host in the test on a DNS server used by
  the hosts for name resolution. Note that  there is no need to
  configure reverse (PTR) DNS records for the hosts,  as no part
  of the protocol uses reverse lookups.

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> Congratulations and thanks to the Editors, Chairs and the whole Working
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