From n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz Mon May 3 22:19:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9197028C2EF for ; Mon, 3 May 2010 22:19:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nKeS4Q-yue-u for ; Mon, 3 May 2010 22:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (curly.its.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.12.36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78663A6BE6 for ; Mon, 3 May 2010 22:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93869CBE9; Tue, 4 May 2010 17:17:28 +1200 (NZST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mailhost.auckland.ac.nz Received: from mailhost.auckland.ac.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (curly.its.auckland.ac.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 75jk1HKBlKwW; Tue, 4 May 2010 17:17:28 +1200 (NZST) Received: from nevil-laptop.sfac.auckland.ac.nz (nevil-laptop.sfac.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.38.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A30E9CBE3; Tue, 4 May 2010 17:17:28 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <4BDFADE8.4050503@auckland.ac.nz> Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 17:17:28 +1200 From: Nevil Brownlee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sujay gupta References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: IPFIX Working Group Subject: Re: [IPFIX] IE for Reliability Extension X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 05:19:21 -0000 Hi Sujay: Sorry it's taken me a while to get back onto IPFIX things. I see that Juergen sent you an email on 21 April, suggesting that you simply request IANA to add some new IE definitions to their IPFIX IE Registry. Reading your draft now, I agree with Juergen. The draft simply says "we need a new information element to say whether or not the counter fields in the Reliability Statistics and Exporting Process Statistics Option Templates are valid, or not." It doesn't seem to me that you need more than the new IE, your 'reliabilityReasonCode.' However, I'd like to see some discussion of that on the IPFIX list. For example, does the name tell us what it actually means? Would 'reliabilityCountersValid' be any better? Can it be implemented effectively? Do others agree that it would be useful? Concerning the draft itself, I have a few editorial comments: - MAYBE isn't an RFC 2119, that should be in lower case - IE 239 is already allocated, the next free number is 277 I'm copying this to the list to see what others think of this. Cheers, Nevil sujay gupta wrote: > Hi Nevil, > > My apologies for sending multiple emails. > > I am keen to propose for IANA the IE as described in; > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gupta-ipfix-reliability-template-ext-00, > which I had > presented at Anaheim. > > What is your opinion on it? > > Looking forward to your reply. > > Thanking you, > -Sujay -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand From sujay.ietf@gmail.com Tue May 4 20:29:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28883A6801 for ; Tue, 4 May 2010 20:29:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.300, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CnSj9J4nDkYu for ; Tue, 4 May 2010 20:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f173.google.com (mail-yw0-f173.google.com [209.85.211.173]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C253A682D for ; Tue, 4 May 2010 20:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh3 with SMTP id 3so2018545ywh.31 for ; Tue, 04 May 2010 20:29:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MbpWvukUGEGNo9jlreFIxOSq7EiYHIhXp0dxCSvT8cY=; b=sNz3d/i78PYWUOZrhCeL1jDU0wOgWySbRoz5M7MWsQpjPHmXusJJae7xq0XSb1b8zr BnHyd324156utB5V9ZXRczZKVGR8mNaCa55SEhZ8vZ1ceoHN0nZLXrrphAfomV4rcS+E YR0PR5EI0nRjm3HbbhyYRIc/ayvOBnV174UP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=me6blNjjxk6hkqWy0Fbrr+DISrQAyLCco1KkSVJ/8dDVKDLUCjSPhATi81dwAES4g5 BW1+M8uMbG1vn9yZxQbYLWHVB3Cw8G3b2K5+ryzf1XGCnCmU9SA0y0Kcxj4FRckwQ/zs vMSWY6D+tDTlO0yWhKpEwCNoO5R01a4F5blls= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.72.40 with SMTP id z40mr3378271agk.4.1273030156585; Tue, 04 May 2010 20:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.78.2 with HTTP; Tue, 4 May 2010 20:29:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BDFADE8.4050503@auckland.ac.nz> References: <4BDFADE8.4050503@auckland.ac.nz> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 23:29:16 -0400 Message-ID: From: sujay gupta To: Nevil Brownlee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: IPFIX Working Group Subject: Re: [IPFIX] IE for Reliability Extension X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 03:29:34 -0000 Thanks Nevil for the feedback. Yes, I would agree for a more appropriate name change. Sometime, when I last floated an email asking for responses as to who has implemented Reliability Optional Template , there was IMO no response, (??) On the reason for the new IE, I do not see any disagreement from the list. Whether it can be resolved without using a new IE is the question, and I would welcome any proposals in the list. Best Regards, -Sujay On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Nevil Brownlee wrote: > > Hi Sujay: > > Sorry it's taken me a while to get back onto IPFIX things. > > I see that Juergen sent you an email on 21 April, suggesting that > you simply request IANA to add some new IE definitions to their > IPFIX IE Registry. > > Reading your draft now, I agree with Juergen. =A0The draft simply > says "we need a new information element to say whether or not > the counter fields in the Reliability Statistics and Exporting > Process Statistics Option Templates are valid, or not." > > It doesn't seem to me that you need more than the new IE, your > 'reliabilityReasonCode.' =A0However, I'd like to see some discussion > of that on the IPFIX list. =A0For example, does the name tell us > what it actually means? =A0Would 'reliabilityCountersValid' be > any better? =A0Can it be implemented effectively? =A0Do others agree > that it would be useful? > > Concerning the draft itself, I have a few editorial comments: > - MAYBE isn't an RFC 2119, that should be in lower case > - IE 239 is already allocated, the next free number is 277 > > I'm copying this to the list to see what others think of this. > > Cheers, Nevil > > > sujay gupta wrote: >> >> Hi Nevil, >> >> My apologies for sending multiple emails. >> >> I am keen to propose for IANA the IE as described in; >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gupta-ipfix-reliability-template-ext-00= , >> which I had >> presented at Anaheim. >> >> What is your opinion on it? >> >> Looking forward to your reply. >> >> Thanking you, >> -Sujay > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > =A0Nevil Brownlee =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Computer Science= Department | ITS > =A0Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The University of= Auckland > =A0FAX: +64 9 373 7453 =A0 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand > From n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz Wed May 5 14:49:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD673A6D26 for ; Wed, 5 May 2010 14:49:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bc8vBti-BG8p for ; Wed, 5 May 2010 14:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (curly.its.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.12.36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59213A6CD0 for ; Wed, 5 May 2010 14:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1123C9CB6A for ; Thu, 6 May 2010 09:48:37 +1200 (NZST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mailhost.auckland.ac.nz Received: from mailhost.auckland.ac.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (curly.its.auckland.ac.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WOX51wgqI3zv for ; Thu, 6 May 2010 09:48:36 +1200 (NZST) Received: from nevil-laptop.sfac.auckland.ac.nz (nevil-laptop.sfac.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.38.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2DB9C66F for ; Thu, 6 May 2010 09:48:31 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <4BE1E7AF.4020603@auckland.ac.nz> Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 09:48:31 +1200 From: Nevil Brownlee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IPFIX Working Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [IPFIX] Research project - looking for input X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 21:49:02 -0000 Hi all: Scott Bradner asked the WG chairs for help in getting responses to a research survey aimed at improving the way IETF WGs operate. If you have some time to spare, please consider responding to their survey (URL below). Cheers, Nevil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott O. Bradner" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:04 AM Subject: resend - poll request > working group chairs: > > This is the resend of the pointer to the survey that I talked about > during the WG Chairs lunch in Anaheim �sorry for the delay > > Please take a look & if you are comfortable doing so, please send a > pointer to your WG discussion list > > Thanks > > Scott > > === resend==== > > We need your support to our project that develops an open-source tool > monitoring the status of conflicts in a virtual working group (WG). > This tool will be particular well suited to monitoring conflict > resolution in IETF WGs as well as post mortem analysis of past WGs. Its > goal is to automatically analyze IETF WG discussion archives to > determine the amount of conflict and how effective this conflict is > being (has been) resolved. As the first step, we need to understand the > relationship between the conflicts in a working group and the structure > of the communication network in that group. While having conflicts is > not necessarily a bad thing for a team, some conflicts could be > escalated into disasters. We are interested in finding the communication > patterns related to the evolution of group conflicts. Results from this > study will provide the base for the development of the tool that helps > working group chairs to decide when to intervene with an internal > conflict before it becomes irreversibly negative as well as being a tool > that may help determine where there is consensus on a particular topic. > > We would like your help in understanding the level of conflicts within > your working groups and how the conflicts affect productivity and group > members�perception on the working group. It will be greatly appreciated > if you could ask your WG members to anonymously fill a short survey at > > https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=dExTbEU5QmRncnhFbjhQUVR4bzBGMEE6MA > > Thank you! > > Best Regards, > > Bin Zhu, Mark Gaynor, Scott Bradner, and Jialun Qin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand From dromasca@avaya.com Thu May 6 01:51:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311C23A67D1 for ; Thu, 6 May 2010 01:51:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.072 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.072 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.527, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P1w0TBL9VTUK for ; Thu, 6 May 2010 01:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718DC3A68B1 for ; Thu, 6 May 2010 01:51:39 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,339,1270440000"; d="scan'208";a="216738275" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 06 May 2010 04:51:26 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,339,1270440000"; d="scan'208";a="471465311" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 06 May 2010 04:51:25 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 10:51:24 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DISCUSS: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement Thread-Index: Acrsz2Jk5cffzY8iSGS2ZXIMZeirLQAKdQ7w From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: DISCUSS: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 08:51:44 -0000 Editors and Chairs, Please address the issue raised by Sean in his DISCUSS.=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sean Turner Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:51 AM To: iesg@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement@tools.ietf.org; ipfix-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: DISCUSS: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement=20 Discuss: #1) The SECDIR review pointed out that the trust model needs to be explained. Atsushi suggested that there were two scenarios and they should probably go in the follow-on framework document. If that is the case, then a normative reference is needed to point from the trust model text/section to that particular section in the framework document. However, the -06 of draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-framework does not seem to include this text. Is it going to be included or is the trust model going to be included in problem-statement? From christian.vogt@ericsson.com Fri May 7 11:16:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC853A696D; Fri, 7 May 2010 11:16:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.526 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.526 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.341, BAYES_40=-0.185] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YH348yOtzHaF; Fri, 7 May 2010 11:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr3.ericy.com (imr3.ericy.com [198.24.6.13]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A02D3A68E8; Fri, 7 May 2010 11:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) by imr3.ericy.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o47IA4Qi010454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 7 May 2010 13:10:05 -0500 Received: from [164.48.125.81] (147.117.20.212) by eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se (147.117.20.91) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.375.2; Fri, 7 May 2010 14:10:02 -0400 From: Christian Vogt Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 20:09:56 +0200 Message-ID: To: Gen-ART Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 09 May 2010 14:57:32 -0700 Cc: ipfix@ietf.org, emile.stephan@orange-ftgroup.com Subject: [IPFIX] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement-09 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 18:16:57 -0000 I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Document..........: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement-09 Reviewer..........: Christian Vogt Review date.......: May 7, 2010 IESG Telechat date: May 6, 2010 Summary: This draft is ready for publication as a Informational RFC. This document identifies scalability problems with modern flow-based measurement, which are due to increasing traffic volume as well as increasing measurement requirements complexity. The document motivates IPFIX mediation as a solution, and it gives a set of examples where this solution applies. The document also analyzes the disadvantages of IPFIX mediation, which constitute the cost for better scalability. I believe the document is ready for publication. The document is easy to read, concise, and well-structured. From akoba@nttv6.net Sun May 9 21:26:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602AE3A6AD5; Sun, 9 May 2010 21:26:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.712 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.712 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_50=0.001, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FRFprJE3uV1I; Sun, 9 May 2010 21:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nttv6.net (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:2001:fa8::25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDFB3A65A5; Sun, 9 May 2010 21:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dhcp-3-152.nttv6.com [192.47.163.152]) by mail.nttv6.net (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4A4Q558063908; Mon, 10 May 2010 13:26:08 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from akoba@nttv6.net) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:18:49 +0900 From: Atsushi Kobayashi To: Christian Vogt In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20100510131523.6EF9.17391CF2@nttv6.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.50.05 [ja] (Unregistered) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (mail.nttv6.net [192.16.178.5]); Mon, 10 May 2010 13:26:08 +0900 (JST) Cc: ipfix@ietf.org, emile.stephan@orange-ftgroup.com, Gen-ART Mailing List Subject: Re: [IPFIX] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement-09 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 04:26:29 -0000 Hi Christian, Thank you for your reviewing. Regards, Atsushi On Fri, 7 May 2010 20:09:56 +0200 Christian Vogt wrote: > I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer > for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see > http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). > > Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments > you may receive. > > > Document..........: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement-09 > Reviewer..........: Christian Vogt > Review date.......: May 7, 2010 > IESG Telechat date: May 6, 2010 > > > Summary: This draft is ready for publication as a Informational RFC. > > > This document identifies scalability problems with modern flow-based > measurement, which are due to increasing traffic volume as well as > increasing measurement requirements complexity. The document motivates > IPFIX mediation as a solution, and it gives a set of examples where this > solution applies. The document also analyzes the disadvantages of IPFIX > mediation, which constitute the cost for better scalability. > > I believe the document is ready for publication. The document is easy > to read, concise, and well-structured. > > --- Atsushi KOBAYASHI NTT Information Sharing Platform Lab. tel:+81-(0)422-59-3978 fax:+81-(0)422-59-5637 From akoba@nttv6.net Sun May 9 21:41:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471CE3A6AD6 for ; Sun, 9 May 2010 21:41:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.106 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.106 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.805, BAYES_05=-1.11, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xLVLDTZm8x52 for ; Sun, 9 May 2010 21:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nttv6.net (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:2001:fa8::25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAC928C0FA for ; Sun, 9 May 2010 21:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dhcp-3-152.nttv6.com [192.47.163.152]) by mail.nttv6.net (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4A4fDCR063983; Mon, 10 May 2010 13:41:14 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from akoba@nttv6.net) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:33:55 +0900 From: Atsushi Kobayashi To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20100510132209.6EFC.17391CF2@nttv6.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.50.05 [ja] (Unregistered) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (mail.nttv6.net [192.16.178.5]); Mon, 10 May 2010 13:41:14 +0900 (JST) Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPFIX] FW: DISCUSS: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 04:41:31 -0000 Hi Dan, and Chairs, The issues are being discussed in another mail. I am wondering non-technical issue that problem statement needs normative reference to framework. Regards, Atsushi On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:51:24 +0200 "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" wrote: > Editors and Chairs, > > Please address the issue raised by Sean in his DISCUSS. > > Thanks and Regards, > > Dan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Sean Turner > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:51 AM > To: iesg@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement@tools.ietf.org; > ipfix-chairs@tools.ietf.org > Subject: DISCUSS: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement > > Discuss: > #1) The SECDIR review pointed out that the trust model needs to be > explained. Atsushi suggested that there were two scenarios and they > should probably go in the follow-on framework document. If that is the > case, then a normative reference is needed to point from the trust model > text/section to that particular section in the framework document. > However, the -06 of draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-framework does not seem > to include this text. Is it going to be included or is the trust model > going to be included in problem-statement? > > > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix --- Atsushi KOBAYASHI NTT Information Sharing Platform Lab. tel:+81-(0)422-59-3978 fax:+81-(0)422-59-5637 From dromasca@avaya.com Mon May 10 00:44:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE3A28C124 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 00:44:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.014 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.014 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.585, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vn06ZGL4zOye for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 00:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE7F28C125 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 00:44:24 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,361,1270440000"; d="scan'208";a="187897606" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 10 May 2010 03:44:11 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,361,1270440000"; d="scan'208";a="460796206" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 10 May 2010 03:44:10 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 09:43:55 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100510132209.6EFC.17391CF2@nttv6.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [IPFIX] FW: DISCUSS: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement Thread-Index: Acrv+wh1xFRewMKGRLaPTevxX3pfJAAGWcuw References: <20100510132209.6EFC.17391CF2@nttv6.net> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Atsushi Kobayashi" Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPFIX] FW: DISCUSS: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 07:44:32 -0000 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Atsushi Kobayashi [mailto:akoba@nttv6.net]=20 >=20 > I am wondering non-technical issue that problem statement=20 > needs normative reference to framework. >=20 Can you try to reformulate this, I cannot really understand what you mean.=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan From akoba@nttv6.net Mon May 10 09:43:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642D33A69CA for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 09:43:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.946 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.946 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.265, BAYES_50=0.001, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SUBJ_RE_NUM=2.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iNyAElQFBK7w for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 09:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nttv6.net (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:2001:fa8::25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983A63A6951 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 09:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dhcp-3-152.nttv6.com [192.47.163.152]) by mail.nttv6.net (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4AGgoR7067659; Tue, 11 May 2010 01:42:50 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from akoba@nttv6.net) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 01:35:30 +0900 From: Atsushi Kobayashi To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" In-Reply-To: References: <20100510132209.6EFC.17391CF2@nttv6.net> Message-Id: <20100511004156.6F02.17391CF2@nttv6.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.50.05 [ja] (Unregistered) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (mail.nttv6.net [192.16.178.5]); Tue, 11 May 2010 01:42:50 +0900 (JST) Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPFIX] FW: DISCUSS: draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-problem-statement X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 16:43:09 -0000 Hi Dan, and all, In IETF last call, the SECDIR review pointed out that the trust model for mediator needs to be explained. At that time, I explained about my thought included in framework draft. In IESG review, Sean pointed out two comments; the current framework draft is not enough explanation, the problem statement document needs the normative reference to the framework draft. With regard to framework document, thanks to Brian great suggestion, I am preparing next version including trust model in security consideration section. Please see the following sub-section 9.3. http://www.nttv6.net/~akoba/draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-framework-07-01.html#anchor24 With regard to including normative reference to framework, I have one question. By definition, the goal of problem statement is to explain the issues that should be resolved in a series of documents made afterward, i.e., framework. It is starting point. Thus, already the problem statement described the issues about the trust model. In my opinion, it is enough as problem statement level. Even so, normative reference is necessary? Does it need to wait for framework draft? If framework has normative reference to its protocol, does it need to wait protocol draft moreover? I would like to avoid long discussion about it, I will follow your and IPFIX chairs' opinion. Regards, Atsushi On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:43:55 +0200 "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Atsushi Kobayashi [mailto:akoba@nttv6.net] > > > > > I am wondering non-technical issue that problem statement > > needs normative reference to framework. > > > > Can you try to reformulate this, I cannot really understand what you > mean. > > Thanks and Regards, > > Dan > > --- Atsushi KOBAYASHI NTT Information Sharing Platform Lab. tel:+81-(0)422-59-3978 fax:+81-(0)422-59-5637 From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 07:33:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1359F3A6D00 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:33:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.598, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DP6hGspcWcGG for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCF73A6D02 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:32:19 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="217498927" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 10:32:08 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="473890460" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 10:32:08 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 16:31:56 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Errata 1992 and 2030 on RFC 5655 Thread-Index: AcrxFrUfZkS+upvzSKWQaZNbTHv5lg== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] Errata 1992 and 2030 on RFC 5655 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:33:25 -0000 IPFIX WG, Please provide your recommendation concerning errata #1992 and #2030 relative to RFC 5665.=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 07:55:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC0A3A6D25 for ; 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kchowdhury@starentnetworks.com Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5447 (1695) The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC5447, "Diameter Mobile IPv6: Support for Network Access Server to Diameter Server Interaction".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5447&eid=3D1695 -------------------------------------- Status: Held for Document Update Type: Editorial Reported by: Alfred Hoenes Date Reported: 2009-02-23 Held by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 7.1, pg.13 Original Text ------------- | The following new AVPs are to be allocated from RADIUS Attribute Type space [RFC2865] so that they are RADIUS backward-compatible (AVP Code values between 0-255): Corrected Text -------------- vvvvvvvvv vvvv | The following new AVPs have been allocated from the RADIUS Attribute Type space [RFC2865] so that they are RADIUS backward-compatible (AVP Code values between 0-255): Notes ----- Location: second text paragraph in Section 7.1. Rationale: Wrong temporal relationship (plus missing article); as in the first paragraph of the section, the action IANA _has performed_ in conjunction with the publication of the RFC should have been recorded in the RFC text. -------------------------------------- RFC5447 (draft-ietf-dime-mip6-integrated-12) -------------------------------------- Title : Diameter Mobile IPv6: Support for Network Access Server to Diameter Server Interaction Publication Date : February 2009 Author(s) : J. Korhonen, Ed., J. Bournelle, H. Tschofenig, C. Perkins, K. Chowdhury Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Diameter Maintanence and Extensions Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 07:55:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479393A6CE3 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:55:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.588, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dQyTJLd6LWCj for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2DF3A6CC2 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:55:35 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="188151284" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 10:55:23 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="473905571" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 10:55:22 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 16:55:12 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5655 (1984) Thread-Index: AcrxC+OSb9fJUEV7RfqgJq/fOtPL8wADg5oQ From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5655 (1984) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:55:58 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:14 PM To: ah@TR-Sys.de; brian.trammell@hitachi-eu.com; elisa.boschi@hitachi-eu.com; lutz.mark@ifam.fraunhofer.de; tanja.zseby@fokus.fraunhofer.de; arno@wagner.name Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5655 (1984) The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC5655, "Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5655&eid=3D1984 -------------------------------------- Status: Held for Document Update Type: Editorial Reported by: Alfred Hoenes Date Reported: 2009-12-28 Held by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 5.8, pg.13 Original Text ------------- Certain use cases for archival flow storage require the storage of collection infrastructure details alongside the data itself. These details include information about how and when data was received, and where it was received from. They are useful for auditing as well as | for the replaying received data for testing purposes. Corrected Text -------------- Certain use cases for archival flow storage require the storage of collection infrastructure details alongside the data itself. These details include information about how and when data was received, and where it was received from. They are useful for auditing as well as | for replaying received data for testing purposes. Notes ----- Alternative for last line: | for the replay of received data for testing purposes. Additional editorial remark (keep for update!): =20 In Section 1.1, there's an unexpected blank line inserted into the first paragraph on page 5. -------------------------------------- RFC5655 (draft-ietf-ipfix-file-05) -------------------------------------- Title : Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format Publication Date : October 2009 Author(s) : B. Trammell, E. Boschi, L. Mark, T. Zseby, A. Wagner Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : IP Flow Information Export Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 07:56:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4DE3A6CFD for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:56:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.015 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.015 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.584, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S2r2c8cvr5pp for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCAA3A6D18 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="188151306" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 10:55:30 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="473905756" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 10:55:29 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 16:55:26 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5655 (1985) Thread-Index: AcrxDANGfPwyUUR7RT2+EutS2gBFPgADfeJA From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5655 (1985) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:56:06 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:15 PM To: ah@TR-Sys.de; brian.trammell@hitachi-eu.com; elisa.boschi@hitachi-eu.com; lutz.mark@ifam.fraunhofer.de; tanja.zseby@fokus.fraunhofer.de; arno@wagner.name Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5655 (1985) The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC5655, "Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5655&eid=3D1985 -------------------------------------- Status: Held for Document Update Type: Editorial Reported by: Alfred Hoenes Date Reported: 2009-12-28 Held by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 7.1, pg.16 Original Text ------------- ... third bullet, at the bottom of page 16: o resolve any conflict between a resent definition and a previous definition by assuming that the new Template replaces the old, as | consistent with Template expiration and ID reuse when using UDP at the IPFIX transport protocol; and Corrected Text -------------- o resolve any conflict between a resent definition and a previous definition by assuming that the new Template replaces the old, as | consistent with Template expiration and ID reuse when using UDP as the IPFIX transport protocol; and Notes ----- Rationale: typo; s/at/as/ . -------------------------------------- RFC5655 (draft-ietf-ipfix-file-05) -------------------------------------- Title : Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format Publication Date : October 2009 Author(s) : B. Trammell, E. Boschi, L. Mark, T. Zseby, A. Wagner Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : IP Flow Information Export Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 07:56:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD3F3A6885 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:56:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.580, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HYJ3Qu8UY4KK for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E54A3A6CFF for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 07:56:31 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="217504859" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 10:56:20 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="473906641" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 10:56:20 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 16:56:08 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5655 (1991) Thread-Index: AcrxDJV1U7TZesv9QyKIiD5CUo6fkAADXr4A From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5655 (1991) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:56:56 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:19 PM To: ah@TR-Sys.de; brian.trammell@hitachi-eu.com; elisa.boschi@hitachi-eu.com; lutz.mark@ifam.fraunhofer.de; tanja.zseby@fokus.fraunhofer.de; arno@wagner.name Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5655 (1991) The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC5655, "Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5655&eid=3D1991 -------------------------------------- Status: Held for Document Update Type: Editorial Reported by: Alfred Hoenes Date Reported: 2009-12-28 Held by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 12.2, pg.43 Original Text ------------- ... first paragraph: [...]. The channel | between the Exporting Process to Collecting Process using IPFIX is signed by the Exporting Process key and protected via TLS and DTLS, while the File is signed by the File Writer key and protected via CMS. [...] Corrected Text -------------- [...]. The channel | from the Exporting Process to the Collecting Process using IPFIX is signed by the Exporting Process key and protected via TLS and DTLS, while the File is signed by the File Writer key and protected via CMS. [...] Notes ----- Rationale: "channel between xxx to yyy" does not make sense. Either "channel _from_ xxx to yyy" or "channel between xxx _and_ yyy" should be written. The Corrected Text above suggests the first alternative (based on the essential unidirectionality of the information flow) and balances the use of articles. -------------------------------------- RFC5655 (draft-ietf-ipfix-file-05) -------------------------------------- Title : Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format Publication Date : October 2009 Author(s) : B. Trammell, E. Boschi, L. Mark, T. Zseby, A. 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However, aside from merely applying CMS for signatures, there are several security | issues which much be considered in certain circumstances; these are covered in the subsections below. Corrected Text -------------- [...]. However, aside from merely applying CMS for signatures, there are several security | issues that must be considered in certain circumstances; these are covered in the subsections below. Notes ----- Rationale: broken grammar; s/which much/that must/ . -------------------------------------- RFC5655 (draft-ietf-ipfix-file-05) -------------------------------------- Title : Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format Publication Date : October 2009 Author(s) : B. Trammell, E. Boschi, L. Mark, T. Zseby, A. 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This section specifies method | via CMS detached signatures. Corrected Text -------------- In order to ensure the integrity of IPFIX Files and the identity of IPFIX File Writers, File Writers and File Readers SHOULD provide for an interoperable and easily implemented method for signing IPFIX | Files, and verifying those signatures. This section specifies one | such method via CMS detached signatures. Notes ----- Rationale: missing word(s); suggest inserting "one such". -------------------------------------- RFC5655 (draft-ietf-ipfix-file-05) -------------------------------------- Title : Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format Publication Date : October 2009 Author(s) : B. Trammell, E. Boschi, L. Mark, T. Zseby, A. Wagner Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : IP Flow Information Export Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 08:01:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EBF3A6885 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.031 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.031 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.568, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bDemEs6UPwKE for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F2E3A6D09 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:00:33 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="188152353" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:00:21 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="473909824" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:00:20 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:00:06 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Rejected] RFC5655 (1989) Thread-Index: AcrxDGL//rPXFB0CTuiXckZDM11QHgADj3uw From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Rejected] RFC5655 (1989) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:01:04 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:18 PM To: ah@TR-Sys.de; brian.trammell@hitachi-eu.com; elisa.boschi@hitachi-eu.com; lutz.mark@ifam.fraunhofer.de; tanja.zseby@fokus.fraunhofer.de; arno@wagner.name Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Rejected] RFC5655 (1989) The following errata report has been rejected for RFC5655, "Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5655&eid=3D1989 -------------------------------------- Status: Rejected Type: Editorial Reported by: Alfred Hoenes Date Reported: 2009-12-28 Rejected by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 10, pg. 39 Original Text ------------- [...] | IPFIX Templates tend to increase the information content per record by not requiring the export of irrelevant or non-present fields in records, and the technique described in [RFC5473] also reduces the export of redundant information. [...] Corrected Text -------------- [...] | IPFIX Templates tend to decrease the information content per record by not requiring the export of irrelevant or non-present fields in records, and the technique described in [RFC5473] also reduces the export of redundant information. [...] Notes ----- Rationale: arguably s/increase/decrease/ . --VERIFIER NOTES--=20 The text seems to be correct. Usage of templates increases efficiency by increasing the amount of information carried by a record. =20 -------------------------------------- RFC5655 (draft-ietf-ipfix-file-05) -------------------------------------- Title : Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format Publication Date : October 2009 Author(s) : B. Trammell, E. Boschi, L. Mark, T. Zseby, A. Wagner Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : IP Flow Information Export Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 08:02:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C833A69E8 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.188, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GBms4jCCo4Fa for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633FC3A689C for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:02:16 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="188152766" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:02:04 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="461641465" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:02:03 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:01:42 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2053) Thread-Index: AcrxCxD0AF9iHCy4TfmbCgqXMSuOmAAD8ozQ From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2053) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:02:18 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:09 PM To: paitken@cisco.com; bclaise@cisco.com; andrjohn@cisco.com; quittek@nw.neclab.eu Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2053) The following errata report has been verified for RFC5476, "Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5476&eid=3D2053 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Editorial Reported by: Paul Aitken Date Reported: 2010-02-25 Verified by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 6.5.1. Original Text ------------- Notes: * There are two Records here in the same Data Set. Each record defines a different Selection Sequence. * If, for example, a different Selection Sequence is composed of three Selectors, then a different Options Template with three selectorId Information Elements (instead of two) must be used. Corrected Text -------------- Notes: * There are two Records here in the same Data Set. Each record defines a different Selection Sequence. * If, for example, a different Selection Sequence is composed of three Selectors, then a different Options Template with three selectorId Information Elements (instead of two) must be used. * IPFIX Reduced Size Encoding [RFC5101] has been used for the selectorId fields. Notes ----- Addition of "Reduced Size Encoding" note per Errata ID 2052. NB "fields" is plural in this example only. -------------------------------------- RFC5476 (draft-ietf-psamp-protocol-09) -------------------------------------- Title : Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications Publication Date : March 2009 Author(s) : B. Claise, Ed., A. Johnson, J. Quittek Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Packet Sampling Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 08:02:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9083A6B8C for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:02:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.041 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.041 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.558, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pp6DhrnY4C8e for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3BB3A6986 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:02:17 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="188152770" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:02:04 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="461641470" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:02:03 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:01:52 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2054) Thread-Index: AcrxCyJoIpxH8ka4Rx+2gD/nVD9e7AAD75og From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2054) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:02:23 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:09 PM To: paitken@cisco.com; bclaise@cisco.com; andrjohn@cisco.com; quittek@nw.neclab.eu Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2054) The following errata report has been verified for RFC5476, "Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5476&eid=3D2054 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Editorial Reported by: Paul Aitken Date Reported: 2010-02-25 Verified by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 6.5.2.1. Original Text ------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 1 represents systematic count-based Sampling. * samplingPacketInterval and samplingPacketSpace are of type unsigned32 but are compressed down to one octet here, as allowed by the IPFIX protocol specifications [RFC5101]. Corrected Text -------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 1 represents systematic count-based Sampling. * samplingPacketInterval and samplingPacketSpace are of type unsigned32 but are compressed down to one octet here, as allowed by the IPFIX protocol specifications [RFC5101]. * IPFIX Reduced Size Encoding [RFC5101] has been used for the selectorId field. Notes ----- Addition of "Reduced Size Encoding" note per Errata ID 2052. -------------------------------------- RFC5476 (draft-ietf-psamp-protocol-09) -------------------------------------- Title : Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications Publication Date : March 2009 Author(s) : B. Claise, Ed., A. Johnson, J. Quittek Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Packet Sampling Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 08:03:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DBA3A6D09 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.962 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.962 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.529, BAYES_00=-2.599, FF_IHOPE_YOU_SINK=2.166] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u5XvQLyqfweg for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E7E3A6816 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:08 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="15393948" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:02:57 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="473911892" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:02:56 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:02:35 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2057) Thread-Index: AcrxC2Z08hW2aS8pT7yka0X+P87elQAD5LpA From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2057) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:03:17 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:10 PM To: paitken@cisco.com; bclaise@cisco.com; andrjohn@cisco.com; quittek@nw.neclab.eu Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2057) The following errata report has been verified for RFC5476, "Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5476&eid=3D2057 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Editorial Reported by: Paul Aitken Date Reported: 2010-02-25 Verified by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 6.5.2.4. Original Text ------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 4 represents Uniform Probabilistic Sampling. * samplingProbability is of type float64 but is compressed down to a float32 here. Corrected Text -------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 4 represents Uniform Probabilistic Sampling. * samplingProbability is of type float64 but is compressed down to a float32 here. * IPFIX Reduced Size Encoding [RFC5101] has been used for the selectorId field. Notes ----- Addition of "Reduced Size Encoding" note per Errata ID 2052. -------------------------------------- RFC5476 (draft-ietf-psamp-protocol-09) -------------------------------------- Title : Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications Publication Date : March 2009 Author(s) : B. Claise, Ed., A. Johnson, J. Quittek Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Packet Sampling Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 08:03:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCB23A6816 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.041 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.041 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.558, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PUFI5nSNb9KY for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C601B3A69C9 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:08 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="15393950" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:02:57 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="473911900" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:02:57 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:02:44 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2058) Thread-Index: AcrxC2kx1bSmcGJyQVmoS4Qc48mI3gAD5bKQ From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2058) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:03:18 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:11 PM To: paitken@cisco.com; bclaise@cisco.com; andrjohn@cisco.com; quittek@nw.neclab.eu Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2058) The following errata report has been verified for RFC5476, "Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5476&eid=3D2058 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Editorial Reported by: Paul Aitken Date Reported: 2010-02-25 Verified by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 6.5.2.5. Original Text ------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 5 represents Property Match Filtering. * In this filter, there is a mix of information from the packet and information from the router. Corrected Text -------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 5 represents Property Match Filtering. * In this filter, there is a mix of information from the packet and information from the router. * IPFIX Reduced Size Encoding [RFC5101] has been used for the selectorId field. Notes ----- Addition of "Reduced Size Encoding" note per Errata ID 2052. -------------------------------------- RFC5476 (draft-ietf-psamp-protocol-09) -------------------------------------- Title : Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications Publication Date : March 2009 Author(s) : B. Claise, Ed., A. Johnson, J. Quittek Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Packet Sampling Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 08:03:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDAE28C22A for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.045 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.045 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.554, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZPqjflhgRseq for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B153A693D for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="15393974" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:03:03 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="461641747" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:02:28 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:02:04 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2055) Thread-Index: AcrxCzMWCYT2o3ccTDyt+AMeBOx18AAD7S4Q From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2055) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:03:20 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:10 PM To: paitken@cisco.com; bclaise@cisco.com; andrjohn@cisco.com; quittek@nw.neclab.eu Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2055) The following errata report has been verified for RFC5476, "Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5476&eid=3D2055 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Editorial Reported by: Paul Aitken Date Reported: 2010-02-25 Verified by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 6.5.2.2. Original Text ------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 2 represents systematic time-based Sampling. * samplingTimeInterval and samplingTimeSpace are of type unsigned32 but are compressed down here. Corrected Text -------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 2 represents systematic time-based Sampling. * samplingTimeInterval and samplingTimeSpace are of type unsigned32 but are compressed down here. * IPFIX Reduced Size Encoding [RFC5101] has been used for the selectorId field. Notes ----- Addition of "Reduced Size Encoding" note per Errata ID 2052. -------------------------------------- RFC5476 (draft-ietf-psamp-protocol-09) -------------------------------------- Title : Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications Publication Date : March 2009 Author(s) : B. Claise, Ed., A. Johnson, J. Quittek Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Packet Sampling Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 08:03:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41E728C22A for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.049 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.049 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.550, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e7ejn7iiTu0C for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE9F3A6D06 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="15393976" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:03:04 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="461641759" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:02:29 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:02:13 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2056) Thread-Index: AcrxC0SNAng+f5LtQAKz3fXtjxVFGQAD6kpQ From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2056) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:03:20 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:10 PM To: paitken@cisco.com; bclaise@cisco.com; andrjohn@cisco.com; quittek@nw.neclab.eu Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2056) The following errata report has been verified for RFC5476, "Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5476&eid=3D2056 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Editorial Reported by: Paul Aitken Date Reported: 2010-02-25 Verified by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 6.5.2.3. Original Text ------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 3 represents Random n-out-of-N Sampling. * samplingSize and samplingPopulation are of type unsigned32 but are compressed down to one octet here. Corrected Text -------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 3 represents Random n-out-of-N Sampling. * samplingSize and samplingPopulation are of type unsigned32 but are compressed down to one octet here. * IPFIX Reduced Size Encoding [RFC5101] has been used for the selectorId field. Notes ----- Addition of "Reduced Size Encoding" note per Errata ID 2052. -------------------------------------- RFC5476 (draft-ietf-psamp-protocol-09) -------------------------------------- Title : Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications Publication Date : March 2009 Author(s) : B. Claise, Ed., A. Johnson, J. Quittek Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Packet Sampling Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 08:03:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FA13A6CBA for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.052 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.052 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.547, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id koFmzSGYZ-sY for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4C028C241 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:32 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="15394044" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:03:21 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="473912198" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:03:21 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:02:59 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2059) Thread-Index: AcrxC3x9dW9LsPnKR2WhnFiid/Q/cQAD4wfg From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2059) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:03:42 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:11 PM To: paitken@cisco.com; bclaise@cisco.com; andrjohn@cisco.com; quittek@nw.neclab.eu Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC5476 (2059) The following errata report has been verified for RFC5476, "Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5476&eid=3D2059 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Editorial Reported by: Paul Aitken Date Reported: 2010-02-25 Verified by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 6.5.2.6. Original Text ------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 6 represents Hash-based Filtering using the BOB algorithm. Corrected Text -------------- Notes: * A selectorAlgorithm value of 6 represents Hash-based Filtering using the BOB algorithm. * IPFIX Reduced Size Encoding [RFC5101] has been used for the selectorId field. Notes ----- Addition of "Reduced Size Encoding" note per Errata ID 2052. -------------------------------------- RFC5476 (draft-ietf-psamp-protocol-09) -------------------------------------- Title : Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications Publication Date : March 2009 Author(s) : B. Claise, Ed., A. Johnson, J. Quittek Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Packet Sampling Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 08:03:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F7228C24B for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.056 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.056 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.543, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NLXlhiiwTWAA for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F11028C24F for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:33 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="15394050" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:03:22 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="473912205" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:03:21 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:03:09 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Verified] RFC5477 (2052) Thread-Index: AcrxC4jGa0gAnvfASvaUcunbvnthswAD4aqQ From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Verified] RFC5477 (2052) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:03:43 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:12 PM To: paitken@cisco.com; Thomas.Dietz@nw.neclab.eu; bclaise@cisco.com; paitken@cisco.com; dressler@informatik.uni-erlangen.de; carle@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC5477 (2052) The following errata report has been verified for RFC5477, "Information Model for Packet Sampling Exports".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5477&eid=3D2052 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Technical Reported by: Paul Aitken Date Reported: 2010-02-25 Verified by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 8.1.2 Original Text ------------- Abstract Data Type: unsigned16 Corrected Text -------------- Abstract Data Type: unsigned64 Notes ----- Change selectorID from 16 bits to 64 bits per discussion on the IPFIX mailing list: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipfix/current/msg05133.html -------------------------------------- RFC5477 (draft-ietf-psamp-info-11) -------------------------------------- Title : Information Model for Packet Sampling Exports Publication Date : March 2009 Author(s) : T. Dietz, B. Claise, P. Aitken, F. Dressler, G. Carle Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Packet Sampling Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From dromasca@avaya.com Tue May 11 08:03:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A684328C182 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.06 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.06 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.539, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TXcRtlrFEAPL for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98AE28C250 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 08:03:33 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="15394053" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:03:23 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,207,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="473912213" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2010 11:03:22 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:03:20 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Errata Verified] RFC5655 (1988) Thread-Index: AcrxC7BfcOHbAgpCS2qt7aby0wJo+gAD2Uqg From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [IPFIX] FW: [Errata Verified] RFC5655 (1988) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:03:46 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:13 PM To: ah@TR-Sys.de; brian.trammell@hitachi-eu.com; elisa.boschi@hitachi-eu.com; lutz.mark@ifam.fraunhofer.de; tanja.zseby@fokus.fraunhofer.de; arno@wagner.name Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); iesg@iesg.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC5655 (1988) The following errata report has been verified for RFC5655, "Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format".=20 -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5655&eid=3D1988 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Technical Reported by: Alfred Hoenes Date Reported: 2009-12-28 Verified by: Dan Romascanu (IESG) Section: 9.1.3, pg.39 Original Text ------------- signedAttrs: an optional set of attributes that are signed along with the content. | digestAlgorithm: identifies the digital signature algorithm and associated parameters used to generate the signature. signature: the digital signature of the associated file. unsignedAttrs: an optional set of attributes that are not signed. Corrected Text -------------- signedAttrs: an optional set of attributes that are signed along with the content. | signatureAlgorithm: identifies the digital signature algorithm and associated parameters used to generate the signature. signature: the digital signature of the associated file. unsignedAttrs: an optional set of attributes that are not signed. Notes ----- Rationale:=20 Same SEQUENCE element name listed twice, for two different explanations. Further Note (keep for update!): In Section 9.1, in the ASN.1 on page 37, for a better approximation to ASN.1, all pairs of curly braces, "{" ... "}", should better be preceded by the keyword "SEQUENCE". -------------------------------------- RFC5655 (draft-ietf-ipfix-file-05) -------------------------------------- Title : Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) File Format Publication Date : October 2009 Author(s) : B. Trammell, E. Boschi, L. Mark, T. Zseby, A. Wagner Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : IP Flow Information Export Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From trammell@tik.ee.ethz.ch Tue May 11 17:26:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E98B3A6A04 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 17:26:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KddSL7Zx+rAn for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 17:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch (smtp.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.219]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3108B3A688C for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 17:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7EFD9336; Wed, 12 May 2010 02:25:50 +0200 (MEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new on smtp.ee.ethz.ch Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id lqGL5GJzukg1; Wed, 12 May 2010 02:25:50 +0200 (MEST) Received: from talk.l.google.com (174-30-145-95.tcso.qwest.net [174.30.145.95]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: briant) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 68EEBD9303; Wed, 12 May 2010 02:25:49 +0200 (MEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Brian Trammell In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:25:46 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPFIX] Errata 1992 and 2030 on RFC 5655 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 00:26:04 -0000 Hi, Dan, Please see the following messages; there has been no followup to either. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipfix/current/msg05255.html re 1992 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipfix/current/msg05282.html re 2030 Cheers, Brian On May 11, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > IPFIX WG, > > Please provide your recommendation concerning errata #1992 and #2030 > relative to RFC 5665. > > Thanks and Regards, > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From dromasca@avaya.com Wed May 12 05:52:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FF43A68FA for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 05:52:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.058 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.058 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.541, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2cU8LyNhNDQl for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 05:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D327A3A68AA for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 05:52:02 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,214,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="15543031" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 12 May 2010 07:25:23 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,214,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="474225514" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 12 May 2010 07:25:22 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 13:25:05 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [IPFIX] Errata 1992 and 2030 on RFC 5655 Thread-Index: Acrxaa5z+X8UGcacSYCEoOh/4WQH/AAW8Ezw References: From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Brian Trammell" Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPFIX] Errata 1992 and 2030 on RFC 5655 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 12:52:03 -0000 Hi Brian, So if I understand you correctly what you suggest is:=20 1. Approve errata 1992 2. Reject errata 2030 as proposed, and replace it with different edits. In order to do this you will need to submit another technical errata with the edits that you propose.=20 Does anybody in the WG have any problems with this suggestion?=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Trammell [mailto:trammell@tik.ee.ethz.ch]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:26 AM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Cc: ipfix@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [IPFIX] Errata 1992 and 2030 on RFC 5655 >=20 > Hi, Dan, >=20 > Please see the following messages; there has been no followup=20 > to either. >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipfix/current/msg05255.ht > ml re 1992 >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipfix/current/msg05282.ht > ml re 2030 >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Brian >=20 > On May 11, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >=20 > > IPFIX WG, > >=20 > > Please provide your recommendation concerning errata #1992=20 > and #2030=20 > > relative to RFC 5665. > >=20 > > Thanks and Regards, > >=20 > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > > IPFIX mailing list > > IPFIX@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix >=20 >=20 From Quittek@neclab.eu Mon May 17 03:00:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAC23A6B4B for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 03:00:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.369 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.369 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.370, BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PIONZIUwcbKI for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 02:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp0.neclab.eu (smtp0.neclab.eu [195.37.70.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F53D3A69A0 for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 02:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp0.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912492C0209FF for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 11:56:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (atlas2.office) Received: from smtp0.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas2.office [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HIuN9FGX9wqm for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 11:56:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from VENUS.office (mx2.office [192.168.24.15]) by smtp0.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730CB2C020473 for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 11:56:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 10.7.0.54 ([10.7.0.54]) by VENUS.office ([192.168.24.102]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 17 May 2010 09:56:10 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="B_3356967349_139212331"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 11:55:49 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: WG last call on draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-framework-06 Thread-Index: Acr1pyCs1yvmYTIey0uNee/XzDbCGA== From: "Juergen Quittek" To: "IETF IPFIX Working Group" Subject: [IPFIX] WG last call on draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-framework-06 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:00:00 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3356967349_139212331 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear all, This is the working group last call on draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-framework-06. The call starts today and will last until Tuesday June 1. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-framework-06.txt Please read the draft. Please send your comments to this mailing list. Please also send a message if you are fine with the draft as it is. 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09:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faui45.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui45.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.45]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48B53A68CB for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 09:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faui7as (faui7as.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.37.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by faui45.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 784E246D5 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 18:12:53 +0200 (MEST) Received: from CMU-380578.WV.CC.CMU.EDU (CMU-380578.WV.CC.CMU.EDU [128.237.224.106]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by faui7as (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2766080082 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 18:12:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BFFEB83.4060006@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:12:51 -0400 From: Christoph Sommer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF IPFIX Working Group References: <20100526122347.8209.17391CF2@nttv6.net> In-Reply-To: <20100526122347.8209.17391CF2@nttv6.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [IPFIX] WG last call on draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-framework-06 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 16:13:11 -0000 Dear all, Atsushi Kobayashi wrote: > Could you please read the framework draft and put your feedbacks in ipfix mailing list. I really like how the current draft spells out very clearly what IPFIX Mediation is (the manipulation of a record stream) and how this is achieved (via Intermediate Processes)! What worries me a bit, however, is that after reading the draft I don't have a solid grasp on just what an IPFIX Mediator is and where Intermediate Processes can be used. Is an IPFIX Mediator a device that *does* IPFIX Mediation? Is an IPFIX Mediator a device that *can do* IPFIX Mediation? More generally, is an IPFIX Mediator *required* to host: - a Collecting Process? - an Intermediate Process? - an Exporting Process? What is the relationship of an IPFIX Mediator and an IPFIX Collector/Exporter? Or, even more generally -- with "C", "I", and "E" being one or more (active) Collecting, Intermediate, and Exporting Processes, respectively -- which of the following are IPFIX Mediators, IPFIX Collectors and/or IPFIX Exporters: || |C| |I| |E| |CI| |IE| |CIE| Lastly, here are some random thoughts I had while reading the draft: - Figure A and Figure I are conflicting. It seems like most of the document outright forbids running an Intermediate Process on anything other than a Mediator or Exporter, yet Figure I shows a device that does just that. - Figure A labels the devices "Collector 1 .. N", "Exporter 1 .. N", and "Source 1 .. N". However, Mediators are labeled "Mediator 1 .. N and M .. Z". - Figure B does not seem to allow the Intermediate Process to receive data from sources other than the Collecting Process. - I didn't understand what Section 7, Paragraph "Sequence Number" means. - Section 9, Paragraph "Certification" states that all Mediators are *recommended* to export an additional x.509 certificate, but in certain cases do not *need* to. Also, I think it might be worthwhile to state the reason for this recommendation and the exception more clearly. All in all, I'm very happy with the draft and excited to see how, after five years, it now smoothly integrates all of our different ideas on correlation, aggregation, and anonymization. Thanks for all your hard work! Best regards, Christoph -- Christoph Sommer Dept. of Electrical and Computer Eng. Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA Phone: +1 412 268-4212 / Fax: +1 412 268-2860 http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~csommer/