From paitken@cisco.com Tue Nov 1 03:18:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9136321F8CF9 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:18:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DFonJEEUAHC6 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F27821F8D6D for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:18:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=paitken@cisco.com; l=827; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1320142725; x=1321352325; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=073+XDVd3CYwUSat1ARY8OcunQk+WBEEQAjsG7Cxtco=; b=HLeESe5aD5VFWyXYTLNhzD4XMMbdNO+ke/vcREPCZ4E7UVCXpJINWZK3 Q9puMehOmaUcL52nBd8O+nyw+ooJZO4DNyVyegw08ScQ7sRWbGo/PwUmz LxvSbKAJgLaVn7iXJDooXVbqGIllCwBlQwNdjY8vXURS1NPKR7DH4aWcz w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAIbGr06Q/khN/2dsb2JhbABCDqkrgQWBcgEBAQQSASVAARALDgoJFg8JAwIBAgFFBg0BBwEBBRmHaJYmAZ5PiQcElA+FLYt7Nw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,437,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="120500385" Received: from ams-core-4.cisco.com ([144.254.72.77]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2011 10:16:33 +0000 Received: from [10.61.84.76] (ams3-vpn-dhcp5197.cisco.com [10.61.84.76]) by ams-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA1AGXZV031085; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:16:33 GMT Message-ID: <4EAFC702.1020408@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:16:34 +0000 From: Paul Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nevil Brownlee References: <4EAF760A.6020903@auckland.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: <4EAF760A.6020903@auckland.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: IPFIX Working Group Subject: Re: [IPFIX] Taipei agenda, DRAFT-01 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:18:49 -0000 Nevil, > - If you're prepared to work on any of the new work items, please > say that on the IPFIX list I'll work on: draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix draft-johnson-ipfix-mib-variable-export draft-claise-ipfix-information-model-rfc5102bis I'll work or review: draft-claise-ipfix-protocol-rfc5101bis draft-kashima-ipfix-data-link-layer-monitoring I'll review: draft-trammell-ipfix-ie-doctors draft-claise-ipfix-mediation-protocol draft-trammell-ipfix-a9n P. On 01/11/11 04:31, Nevil Brownlee wrote: > > Hi all: > > Thanks for your feedback, the next version of the Taipei meeting's > IPFIX agenda is online at > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/agenda/ipfix.txt > > Cheers, Nevil > From bclaise@cisco.com Wed Nov 2 04:35:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02EB11E815C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 04:35:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.076, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K1ofdVk56t6R for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 04:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1077B11E808A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 04:35:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA2BZYs4010560; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:35:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.88] (ams-bclaise-8917.cisco.com [10.60.67.88]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA2BZTS3029659; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:35:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EB12B01.8090705@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:35:29 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nevil Brownlee References: <4EAF760A.6020903@auckland.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: <4EAF760A.6020903@auckland.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: IPFIX Working Group Subject: Re: [IPFIX] Taipei agenda, DRAFT-01 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:35:39 -0000 Hi Nevil, If there is some time left, we would like to present: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yourtchenko-cisco-ies-02 Regards, Benoit. > > Hi all: > > Thanks for your feedback, the next version of the Taipei meeting's > IPFIX agenda is online at > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/agenda/ipfix.txt > > Cheers, Nevil > From n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz Wed Nov 2 21:10:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DC111E80C7 for ; 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X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,447,1315137600"; d="scan'208";a="88618998" X-Ironport-HAT: UNIVERSITY - $RELAY-THROTTLE X-Ironport-Source: 130.216.38.131 - Outgoing - Outgoing-SSL Received: from nevil-laptop1.sfac.auckland.ac.nz (HELO [130.216.38.131]) ([130.216.38.131]) by mx2-int.auckland.ac.nz with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2011 17:10:09 +1300 Message-ID: <4EB21420.9000302@auckland.ac.nz> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:10:08 +1300 From: Nevil Brownlee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IPFIX Working Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPFIX] Taipei agenda, DRAFT-02 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 04:10:34 -0000 Hi all: The -02 version of the Taipei meeting's IPFIX agenda is online at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/agenda/ipfix.txt Cheers, Nevil -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand From dromasca@avaya.com Thu Nov 3 10:57:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F34C1F0C4F for ; 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03 Nov 2011 13:56:59 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.14]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2011 13:46:03 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:56:57 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: WG rechartered thread-index: AcyaUfqughxeU6GJS5KLiIecZqrl1g== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "IETF IPFIX Working Group" Subject: [IPFIX] WG rechartered X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:57:00 -0000 Hi, In the telechat today the IESG approved the rechartering of the WG as proposed (with some minor editorial changes in the charter text). You should see the approval announcement in the coming days and you can start working right now towards according to the new charter.=20 Good luck, thanks and regards, Dan From wwwrun@ietfa.amsl.com Mon Nov 7 10:15:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietf.org Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id 292DF21F8BC4; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:15:03 -0800 (PST) From: IESG Secretary To: IETF Announcement list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20111107181503.292DF21F8BC4@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:15:03 -0800 (PST) Cc: n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz, ipfix@ietf.org Subject: [IPFIX] WG Action: RECHARTER: IP Flow Information Export (ipfix) X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:15:03 -0000 The IP Flow Information Export (ipfix) working group in the Operations and Management Area of the IETF has been rechartered. For additional information, please contact the Area Directors or the working group Chairs. IP Flow Information Export (ipfix) -------------------------------------------- Status: Active Working Group Charter Last Updated: 2011-11-03 Chairs: Nevil Brownlee Juergen Quittek Operations and Management Area Directors: Ron Bonica Dan Romascanu Operations and Management Area Advisor: Dan Romascanu Mailing Lists: General Discussion: ipfix@ietf.org To Subscribe: http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipfix Description of Working Group The IPFIX working group has specified the information model (to describe IP flows) and the IPFIX protocol (to transfer IP flow data from IPFIX exporters to collectors). Several implementers have already built applications using the IPFIX protocol. As a result of a series of IPFIX interoperability testing events the WG has produced guidelines for IPFIX implementation and testing as well as recommendations for handling special cases such as bidirectional flow reporting and reducing redundancy in flow records. The IPFIX WG has developed a mediation framework, that defines IPFIX mediators for processing flow records for various purposes including aggregation, anonymization, etc. For configuring IPFIX devices, a YANG module has been developed. 1. Having a solid standardized base for IPFIX deployment and operation and several existing implementations, the IPFIX WG will revisit the IPFIX protocol specifications (RFC 5101) and the IPFIX information element specification (RFC 5102) in order to in order to advance them to the next stage on the standards track. All following items 2.-7. will be in line with the revised versions of the IPFIX protocol specifications and the IPFIX information model. 2. In order to provide guidelines to developers and reviewers (including IE doctors) of new IPFIX information elements and for better defining the process of registering new information elements at IANA the IPFIX WG will create an information element developers and reviewers guideline document. 3. The export of IPFIX flow records from IPFIX mediators introduces a set of potential issues at the protocol level, such as the loss of information on the original exporter, loss of base time information, loss of original options template information, etc. The IPFIX WG will define a set of specifications for applying the IPFIX protocol at mediators, including new specifications for protocol issues not envisioned by the IPFIX protocol itself. 4.In order to support the aggregation of flow records at IPFIX mediators the IPFIX WG will define how to export aggregated flow information using IPFIX. An aggregated flow is essentially an IPFIX flow representing packets from multiple original Flows sharing some set of common properties. 5. The IPFIX WG will investigate the use of the IPFIX protocol for exporting MIB objects, avoiding the need to define new IPFIX information elements for existing management information base objects that are already fully specified. This method requires the specification of new template set and options template sets to allow the export of MIB objects along with IPFIX information elements. 6. The IPFIX MIB module (RFC 5815) defined a way to register packet selector functions at IANA. The WG agreed that another method would be preferable that requires a minor change of RFC 5815. The IPFIX WG will produce a new version of RFC 5815 with small modifications of the IANA actions and DESCRIPTION clauses in the MIB modules. 7. Operational experiences showed that it would be useful to define several new information elements for data link monitoring covering frame size, type, sections of frames, and VLAN information. The IPFIX WG will create a document defining these new information elements. Nov 2011 Publish Internet-Draft on guidelines for IE developers and Reviewers Nov 2011 Publish Internet-Draft on IPFIX use at mediators Nov 2011 Publish Internet-Draft on intermediate aggregation Nov 2011 Publish Internet-Draft on exporting MIB objects Nov 2011 Publish Internet-Draft on data link IEs Nov 2011 Publish Internet-Draft on revised IPFIX MIB Dec 2011 Publish Internet-Draft revising RFC 5101 Dec 2011 Publish Internet-Draft revising RFC 5102 Dec 2011 Submit flow selection I-D to IESG for publication as Standards Track RFC Apr 2012 Submit guidelines for IE developers and reviewers for publication as Informational BCP RFC Apr 2012 Submit IPFIX use at mediators for publication as Standards track RFC Apr 2012 Submit intermediate aggregation for publication as Standards track RFC Apr 2012 Submit data link IEs for publication as Standards track RFC Apr 2012 Submit revised RFC 5101 for publication as Standards track RFC Apr 2012 Submit revised IPFIX MIB for publications as Standards track RFC Apr 2012 Submit revised RFC 5102 for publication as Standards track RFC Sep 2012 Submit export of MIB objects for publication as Standards track RFC From n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz Tue Nov 8 17:09:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB871F0C47 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:09:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.58 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.58 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.981, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nwaU3xeLWeOw for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.auckland.ac.nz (mx2.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.12.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158571F0C3B for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:09:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=auckland.ac.nz; i=n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz; q=dns/txt; s=uoa; t=1320800985; x=1352336985; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject: content-transfer-encoding; bh=WkIoLuPLEWsCIFhl0pLoajDpsAeJ+/BGfupMlL+SxbQ=; b=hKqpjuec2NNAk8sPmFQt/RlJLEIOlx7s60BrsPfbVLQ+1z0OU8NWPaVJ 2+RiSwOeKyXloSYBqP8x8HGxv20Q5bWAMEvUggXE/PqYmJEqXMvncNzHj 0G3mlczLieT/5IjobBB5FnI9f2lW98T25KR5gIZ+SiCcgGZkRON+vh3gr E=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,480,1315137600"; d="scan'208";a="89421524" X-Ironport-HAT: UNIVERSITY - $RELAY-THROTTLE X-Ironport-Source: 130.216.38.131 - Outgoing - Outgoing-SSL Received: from nevil-laptop1.sfac.auckland.ac.nz (HELO [130.216.38.131]) ([130.216.38.131]) by mx2-int.auckland.ac.nz with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2011 14:09:35 +1300 Message-ID: <4EB9D2CE.3000708@auckland.ac.nz> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:09:34 +1300 From: Nevil Brownlee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IPFIX Working Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPFIX] agenda-03 for Taipei X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 01:09:46 -0000 I can't imagine why, but the meeting site still seems to have the -02 version of the agenda, and doesn't change it when I upload the -03 version. Here it is ... =========================================== IP Flow Information Export WG (ipfix) DRAFT-03 Agenda for IETF 82, Taipei Thursday, November 17, 1520-1720, Room 101B =========================================== Chairs: Juergen Quittek Nevil Brownlee AGENDA: 1. Agenda review = 5 min 2. Update from last meeting / WG Status (Nevil) = 10 min IANA: IEs 297 (natType), 298 (initiatorPackets) and 299 (responderPackets) allocated. 300 is left unassigned, next unassigned IE is 347 New charter - sent to Dan 25 Oct 11 Current work items Export-per-SCTP-Stream - in queue, waiting on sctp stream-reset draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-strrst-12, IESG state AD Evaluation PSAMP MIB - IANA registry issue (Juergen) draft-ietf-ipfix-psamp-mib-04, 31 Oct 11 Flow Selection Techniques Nevil to submit writeup when -08 published 3. New charter work items = 75 min The draft names here are the existing draft names, they will be re-published when the new charter is formally approved. For all of them we need to decide: Who will edit them? Who will review them? a) Progressing IPFIX Standards-Track RFCs 5101 and 5102 There has been discussion of these on the list ... draft-claise-ipfix-protocol-rfc5101bis-02, 26 Oct 11 draft-claise-ipfix-information-model-rfc5102bis-01, 29 Oct 11 b) Guidelines for Information Elements draft-trammell-ipfix-ie-doctors-03, 28 Oct 11 c) Protocol for PFIX Mediation draft-claise-ipfix-mediation-protocol-04, 7 Jul 11 d) IPFIX Aggregation draft-trammell-ipfix-a9n-04, 26 Sep 11 e) Exporting MIB objects draft-johnson-ipfix-mib-variable-export-03, 31 Oct 11 f) Revision of IPFIX MIB (5815) draft-dkcm-ipfix-rfc5815bis-00, 26 Oct 11 Registering packet selector functions g) IEs for Data Link Layer Traffic Measurement draft-kashima-ipfix-data-link-layer-monitoring-06, 14 Sep 11 4. Structured Data: semantic isues for data types = 10 min Brian Trammell 5. Other drafts (if time allows) a) Export of Application Information in IPFIX draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03, 30 Oct 11 b) Cisco Specific Information Elements for IPFIX (Benoit) draft-yourtchenko-cisco-ies-02. 31 Oct 11 6. Any Other Business = 5 min Presentation slides will be available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=82 (search for IPFIX in the Operations and Management Area) Participation via jabber is offered at ipfix@jabber.ietf.org -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand From n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz Tue Nov 8 17:09:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA0D1F0C3B for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:09:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.44 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.841, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vrSSkoNEKxkU for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:09:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.auckland.ac.nz (mx2.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.12.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE6B1F0C45 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:09:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=auckland.ac.nz; i=n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz; q=dns/txt; s=uoa; t=1320800986; x=1352336986; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject: content-transfer-encoding; bh=FWvYYiKAsndBjz/iAEVe7mU9deBtbW8cyzp6Nf4/wSw=; b=TXKo3wf3O67Pd/jlz8JYfrJvEjwm4P9cHElZWiytKekyhqiW0vzCIvdT TkWFDGW6izOHWGK0c8qKsZdJN3P1FzkxqPGqGKmrlf5uTqbKsCyDuhmLD rYl2JX12NOdjaLX28fSYwwz8174OYCYBw470u6msUl2yKPwMqPW9YGG5s 0=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,480,1315137600"; d="scan'208";a="89421545" X-Ironport-HAT: UNIVERSITY - $RELAY-THROTTLE X-Ironport-Source: 130.216.38.131 - Outgoing - Outgoing-SSL Received: from nevil-laptop1.sfac.auckland.ac.nz (HELO [130.216.38.131]) ([130.216.38.131]) by mx2-int.auckland.ac.nz with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2011 14:09:41 +1300 Message-ID: <4EB9D2D5.8080103@auckland.ac.nz> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:09:41 +1300 From: Nevil Brownlee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IPFIX Working Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPFIX] Need scribes for Taipei IETF X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 01:09:46 -0000 Hi all: At this stage, I don't think we have time for any more drafts to be presented at our meeting at IETF 82. So now .. - Please can I have volunteers to be Meeting Scribe and Jabber Scribe - Who will be presenting each of the drafts listed in the agenda? Please let me know so that I can update the agenda, and please send me slides so that IPFIXers can look at them before them meeting. Cheers, see you in Taipei, Nevil -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand From bclaise@cisco.com Wed Nov 9 08:04:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACDA21F8492 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:04:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.533 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.533 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3da345TCSTbC for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:04:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACDD21F85B1 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:04:00 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA9G3u5M022841; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:03:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.88] (ams-bclaise-8917.cisco.com [10.60.67.88]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA9G3uLk004718; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:03:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EBAA46C.4010309@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 17:03:56 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipfix-chairs@tools.ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000205030403080101090700" Cc: "ipfix@ietf.org" Subject: [IPFIX] draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:04:05 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000205030403080101090700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nevil, Juergen, From the agenda at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/agenda/ipfix.txt, there is one item missing in the "Current work items": Configuration Data Model for IPFIX and PSAMP, draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10 This item is important as, if we look at the dependencies: draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10, in the RFC-editor, has got a MISSREF: draft-ietf-ipfix-psamp-mib. However, the latest draft-ietf-ipfix-psamp-mib version has a normative reference to draft-dkcm-ipfix-rfc5815bis-00. So assuming that we agree on draft-dkcm-ipfix-rfc5815bis-00, which introduces an IANA only change, I would like to propose that we start the WGLC directly after the meeting, deblocking this way draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10 Regards, Benoit. --------------000205030403080101090700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nevil, Juergen,

From the agenda at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/agenda/ipfix.txt, there is one item missing in the "Current work items": Configuration Data Model for IPFIX and PSAMP, draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10

This item is important as, if we look at the dependencies:
draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10, in the RFC-editor, has got a MISSREF: draft-ietf-ipfix-psamp-mib.
However, the latest draft-ietf-ipfix-psamp-mib version has a normative reference to draft-dkcm-ipfix-rfc5815bis-00.
So assuming that we agree on draft-dkcm-ipfix-rfc5815bis-00, which introduces an IANA only change, I would like to propose that we start the WGLC directly after the meeting, deblocking this way draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10

Regards, Benoit.



--------------000205030403080101090700-- From Quittek@neclab.eu Wed Nov 9 08:31:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2669021F8CA3 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:31:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VBE+BaYOgohG for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E745821F8CA2 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480E428000201; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:30:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas1.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DjHLBNfT3KrP; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:30:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from ENCELADUS.office.hd (ENCELADUS.office.hd [192.168.24.52]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D19528000101; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:30:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from Polydeuces.office.hd ([169.254.3.40]) by ENCELADUS.office.hd ([192.168.24.52]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:30:44 +0100 From: Juergen Quittek To: Benoit Claise , "ipfix-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [IPFIX] draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10 Thread-Index: AQHMnvztsD98n0Ghx06mMGYuMIBPsg== Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 16:30:43 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4EBAA46C.4010309@cisco.com> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 x-originating-ip: [10.1.2.219] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <7E82D185A91DCB448964D2974656ED08@office.hd> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: IETF IPFIX Working Group Subject: Re: [IPFIX] draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:31:04 -0000 Hi Benoit, On 09.11.11 17:03, "Benoit Claise" wrote: >=20 > Hi Nevil, Juergen, > =20 > From the agenda at > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/agenda/ipfix.txt, there is one > item missing in the "Current work items": Configuration Data Model > for IPFIX and PSAMP, draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10 That's OK, since there is nothing more to say about it than what you write below. =20 > This item is important as, if we look at the dependencies: > draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10, in the RFC-editor, has got > a MISSREF: draft-ietf-ipfix-psamp-mib. > However, the latest draft-ietf-ipfix-psamp-mib version has a > normative reference to draft-dkcm-ipfix-rfc5815bis-00. > So assuming that we agree on draft-dkcm-ipfix-rfc5815bis-00, which > introduces an IANA only change, I would like to propose that we > start the WGLC directly after the meeting, deblocking this way > draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10 Yes. This is indeed the best way of handling it. Changes in rfc5815bis are minimal and we can go to WGLC immediately. Since the charter has been approved, I'd suggest to post it as a WG draft as soon as The submission opens on Monday Nov 14. Then we can start WGLC immediately after the session.=20 Thanks, Juergen > Regards, Benoit. > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > >_______________________________________________ >IPFIX mailing list >IPFIX@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From bclaise@cisco.com Wed Nov 9 08:41:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245FB21F84C2 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:41:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.535 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.535 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PkFZ5dJHBnN6 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:41:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFED21F84C3 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:41:39 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA9GfaWB027103 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:41:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.88] (ams-bclaise-8917.cisco.com [10.60.67.88]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA9GfZQq004318; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:41:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EBAAD3F.7070203@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 17:41:35 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ipfix@ietf.org" References: <4EA88DA7.1060006@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4EA88DA7.1060006@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [IPFIX] draft-claise-ipfix-mediation-protocol-04 -> Feedback? X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:41:44 -0000 Dear all, I actually overlooked an email from Paul Aitken with some feedback. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipfix/current/msg05969.html We should have posted a version 05. My bad, sorry about that! Regards, Benoit. > Dear all, > > As stated during the meeting at IETF81, the authors believe that we > have solved all the open issues regarding the "Specification of the > Protocol for IPFIX Mediations" at > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-ipfix-mediation-protocol-04 > > Please let us know if we missed something. > We still have a couple of days before the deadline. > > Regards, Benoit. > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix > > From deri@ntop.org Thu Nov 10 14:59:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11971F0C51 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:59:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.743 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.743 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5bGV7KIyhQYU for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:59:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from jake.ntop.org (jake.unipi.it [131.114.21.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212A41F0C50 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:59:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by jake.ntop.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B3B6E2F8106; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:55:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.92] (host106-205-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [79.23.205.106]) by jake.ntop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE8492F80BB; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:55:21 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Luca Deri In-Reply-To: <4EADDF39.7050008@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:59:21 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20111030232936.5134.34000.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4EADDF39.7050008@cisco.com> To: Benoit Claise X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "ipfix@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [IPFIX] New Version Notification for draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 22:59:37 -0000 Dear all, IMHO it is important to standardize a way to export application = information in IPFIX. This draft is a good starting point although I = would like to see a way to export sub-protocol information. For instance = today 'http' (as protocol) does not mean much, so I would like to be = able to also add information about the sub-protocol (e.g. Facebook, = Twitter, DropBox=85). Not that IETF has to standardize such (extremely = volatile) protocols, but perhaps add a sub-application tag I could use = for that purpose. In my open-source probe I already support export of application = information, thus as soon as there is some consensus I would like to = implement the draft. Regards Luca On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Benoit Claise wrote: > Dear all, Dan >=20 > A new version of this draft has been posted. > See = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-0= 3 > This is basically a clean up of the previous version. >=20 > Dan,=20 > We would like to request an AD sponsored individual submission for = this draft, if possible. >=20 > Regards, Paul, Nir, and Benoit. >=20 > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:29:36 -0700 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: bclaise@cisco.com > CC: bclaise@cisco.com, paitken@cisco.com, nirbd@cisco.com >=20 > A new version of I-D, = draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt has been = successfully submitted by Benoit Claise and posted to the IETF = repository. >=20 > Filename: draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix > Revision: 03 > Title: Export of Application Information in IPFIX > Creation date: 2011-10-30 > WG ID: Individual Submission > Number of pages: 33 >=20 > Abstract: > This document specifies an extension to the IPFIX information > model specified in [RFC5102] to export application = information. >=20 >=20 > =20 > = =20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF Secretariat >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix --- "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. = Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by = definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan From G.Dosovitsky@F5.com Fri Nov 11 13:51:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B28C21F8AD3 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:51:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rVtpFKS0Ryrl for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:51:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.f5.com (mail.f5.com [208.85.209.139]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883A521F8497 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:51:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=f5.com; i=G.Dosovitsky@f5.com; q=dns/txt; s=seattle; t=1321048285; x=1352584285; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=8LuKBZT939wQG30hgUWcmLPTzfIYYVJ0pcIN/DhRJ7Y=; b=DPfYwFrNxJa22HbAU85sHbqgwAor/0HB2qvnYmaPV8G8OYYXPLFmREpJ vbAgyq7TDCq/CPyczDs8M7hYKj5tWGA7snv+jIJsk3Ou16WA2grf9/Krj ZKatv8Ov7okoEb2A3/cdo5vwiTfJUGDVgwK3KHe7FOuhmbddK8IhaGUGf 4=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,357,1312156800"; d="scan'208,217";a="35666547" Received: from unknown (HELO exchmail.f5net.com) ([192.168.10.240]) by mail.f5.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 11 Nov 2011 21:51:24 +0000 Received: from TKYEUM02.olympus.F5Net.com (192.168.15.127) by SEAECAS04.olympus.F5Net.com (192.168.16.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.289.1; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:51:23 -0800 Received: from SEAEMBX01.olympus.F5Net.com ([fe80::3440:4256:38f6:d3a0]) by tkyeum02.olympus.F5Net.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0289.001; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:51:23 -0800 From: Gennady Dosovitsky To: "ipfix@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [IPFIX] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt Thread-Index: AcygvA0f7fZIL2xsR2yb6eKgl1izwA== Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:51:22 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.16.200] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D321370AE8DBAD40859FEB77C0052922D6AD74SEAEMBX01olympusF_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:42:12 -0800 Cc: Rudra Rugge Subject: [IPFIX] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:53:03 -0000 --_000_D321370AE8DBAD40859FEB77C0052922D6AD74SEAEMBX01olympusF_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable F5 Networks is an emerging player in DPI market with perspective applicatio= n visibility and control solutions. We support standardization efforts this draft presents and consider it as b= eneficial to the industry. We would like be more involved into reviewing process and contribute. Regards, Rudra Rugge, Gennady Dosovitsky --_000_D321370AE8DBAD40859FEB77C0052922D6AD74SEAEMBX01olympusF_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

F5 Networks is an emerging player in DPI market with= perspective application visibility and control solutions.

We support standardization efforts this draft presen= ts and consider it as beneficial to the industry.

 

We would like be more involved into reviewing proces= s and contribute.

 

Regards,

Rudra Rugge, Gennady Dosovitsky

 

 

--_000_D321370AE8DBAD40859FEB77C0052922D6AD74SEAEMBX01olympusF_-- From bclaise@cisco.com Sat Nov 12 09:07:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD46621F8586 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:07:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.975 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.975 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.624, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GSUbjXv67vkr for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-jap.cisco.com (skinny-sumo.cisco.com [64.104.15.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D31621F848E for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:07:12 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from sumo.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-jap.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pACH79e7027542; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:07:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from [10.65.82.153] ([10.65.82.153]) by sumo.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pACH73Di008680; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:07:05 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4EBEA7B7.7090107@cisco.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 01:07:03 +0800 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luca Deri References: <20111030232936.5134.34000.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4EADDF39.7050008@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "ipfix@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [IPFIX] New Version Notification for draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:07:13 -0000 Hi Luca, > Dear all, > IMHO it is important to standardize a way to export application information in IPFIX. This draft is a good starting point although I would like to see a way to export sub-protocol information. For instance today 'http' (as protocol) does not mean much, so I would like to be able to also add information about the sub-protocol (e.g. Facebook, Twitter, DropBox…). Not that IETF has to standardize such (extremely volatile) protocols, but perhaps add a sub-application tag I could use for that purpose. Yes, you're right. The encoding should be done consistently in the industry. Note that the sub-application tag values can't be maintained by IANA since the application L7 can't be maintained by IANA. > In my open-source probe I already support export of application information, thus as soon as there is some consensus I would like to implement the draft. Actually, this draft is targeted for an Information RFC, so no real consensus is required. Hence the AD sponsored individual submission request. Regards, Benoit. > > Regards Luca > > On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Benoit Claise wrote: > >> Dear all, Dan >> >> A new version of this draft has been posted. >> See http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03 >> This is basically a clean up of the previous version. >> >> Dan, >> We would like to request an AD sponsored individual submission for this draft, if possible. >> >> Regards, Paul, Nir, and Benoit. >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt >> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:29:36 -0700 >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> To: bclaise@cisco.com >> CC: bclaise@cisco.com, paitken@cisco.com, nirbd@cisco.com >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt has been successfully submitted by Benoit Claise and posted to the IETF repository. >> >> Filename: draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix >> Revision: 03 >> Title: Export of Application Information in IPFIX >> Creation date: 2011-10-30 >> WG ID: Individual Submission >> Number of pages: 33 >> >> Abstract: >> This document specifies an extension to the IPFIX information >> model specified in [RFC5102] to export application information. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IPFIX mailing list >> IPFIX@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix > --- > > "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan > > > From bclaise@cisco.com Sat Nov 12 09:09:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0361521F863E for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:09:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.787 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.787 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.811, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05awkDWBV94W for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-jap.cisco.com (skinny-sumo.cisco.com [64.104.15.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAB721F85CE for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:09:04 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from sumo.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-jap.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pACH91YA027746; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:09:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from [10.65.82.153] ([10.65.82.153]) by sumo.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pACH8wRe009407; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:08:59 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4EBEA82A.2000202@cisco.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 01:08:58 +0800 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gennady Dosovitsky References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010303090007090507030009" Cc: Rudra Rugge , "ipfix@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [IPFIX] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:09:05 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010303090007090507030009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gennady, Thanks. Don't hesitate to provide your feedback on the draft on this mailing list. Regards, Benoit. > > F5 Networks is an emerging player in DPI market with perspective > application visibility and control solutions. > > We support standardization efforts this draft presents and consider it > as beneficial to the industry. > > We would like be more involved into reviewing process and contribute. > > Regards, > > Rudra Rugge, Gennady Dosovitsky > > > > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix --------------010303090007090507030009 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gennady,

Thanks. Don't hesitate to provide your feedback on the draft on this mailing list.

Regards, Benoit.

F5 Networks is an emerging player in DPI market with perspective application visibility and control solutions.

We support standardization efforts this draft presents and consider it as beneficial to the industry.

 

We would like be more involved into reviewing process and contribute.

 

Regards,

Rudra Rugge, Gennady Dosovitsky

 

 



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--------------010303090007090507030009-- From inacio@cert.org Sat Nov 12 21:15:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B31711E808C for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:15:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pJUDKMQcCC7O for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from shetland.sei.cmu.edu (shetland.sei.cmu.edu [192.58.107.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EF921F8B04 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from timber.sei.cmu.edu (timber.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.21.23]) by shetland.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4/1294) with ESMTP id pAD5FEFX010296; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:15:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cert.org; s=jthatj15xw2j; t=1321161314; bh=yDoRZgSr7keWbrYtZO3n0dmyv074BRp0m1Z5wyRIEco=; h=From:To:CC:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version:Sender: Reply-To; b=l8m1GVTrj5dN9CyIPU4YBskYJj2r665wh/HZcsjvYmb+8okeP50PfFh2a7WIyH49H hnVN/cQ53kEhxcCzFQjkMHp2gAn2rOlJu8yqptbPWaBW8ysUhUSdAkpyOo4m+HKUDq VIspojwmYrvQbO0cATFas595Q/OmXFJxe1y25EoI= Received: from owa.sei.cmu.edu (vader.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.28.14]) by timber.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4/1348) with ESMTP id pAD5FDZx026067; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:15:13 -0500 Received: from EXCHANGE.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.12]) by vader.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.14]) with mapi; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:14:52 -0500 From: Chris Inacio To: Luca Deri Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:15:12 -0500 Thread-Topic: [IPFIX] New Version Notification for draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt Thread-Index: Acyhwyu8SznuGu+SS8WcS7kDtPYIBw== Message-ID: References: <20111030232936.5134.34000.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4EADDF39.7050008@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ipfix@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [IPFIX] New Version Notification for draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 05:15:28 -0000 On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Luca Deri wrote: > Dear all, > IMHO it is important to standardize a way to export application informati= on in IPFIX. This draft is a good starting point although I would like to s= ee a way to export sub-protocol information. For instance today 'http' (as = protocol) does not mean much, so I would like to be able to also add inform= ation about the sub-protocol (e.g. Facebook, Twitter, DropBox=85). Not that= IETF has to standardize such (extremely volatile) protocols, but perhaps a= dd a sub-application tag I could use for that purpose. >=20 > In my open-source probe I already support export of application informati= on, thus as soon as there is some consensus I would like to implement the d= raft. >=20 Luca, We also export application information in YAF. I would love to coordinate = with you and synchronize how we do it. Software Engineering Institute is a sponsored research center at Carnegie M= ellon University. I would be more than happy to host a registry mechanism = for the community. For folks who have interest in requesting a registry element, but not publi= shing it, we can support that too, in order to avoid conflicts, but allow c= ompanies to innovate at their own pace. If people are interested, I can put something together. > Regards Luca >=20 Regards, Chris > On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Benoit Claise wrote: >=20 >> Dear all, Dan >>=20 >> A new version of this draft has been posted. >> See http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-export-application-info-in-i= pfix-03 >> This is basically a clean up of the previous version. >>=20 >> Dan,=20 >> We would like to request an AD sponsored individual submission for this = draft, if possible. >>=20 >> Regards, Paul, Nir, and Benoit. >>=20 >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-claise-export-application-in= fo-in-ipfix-03.txt >> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:29:36 -0700 >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> To: bclaise@cisco.com >> CC: bclaise@cisco.com, paitken@cisco.com, nirbd@cisco.com >>=20 >> A new version of I-D, draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.t= xt has been successfully submitted by Benoit Claise and posted to the IETF = repository. >>=20 >> Filename: draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix >> Revision: 03 >> Title: Export of Application Information in IPFIX >> Creation date: 2011-10-30 >> WG ID: Individual Submission >> Number of pages: 33 >>=20 >> Abstract: >> This document specifies an extension to the IPFIX information >> model specified in [RFC5102] to export application information. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> The IETF Secretariat >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> IPFIX mailing list >> IPFIX@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix >=20 > --- >=20 > "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. There= fore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition= , not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan >=20 > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From deri@ntop.org Sun Nov 13 00:19:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A98911E80C1 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:19:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.653 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.653 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Co3l1LoZuwpj for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from jake.ntop.org (jake.unipi.it [131.114.21.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2142B11E80C0 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.108] (host194-101-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [82.51.101.194]) by jake.ntop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D2F072F800D; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:15:14 +0100 (CET) References: <20111030232936.5134.34000.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4EADDF39.7050008@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <23334FE0-5A98-4C9E-AA54-08B478E42329@ntop.org> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A405) From: Luca Deri Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:19:20 +0100 To: Chris Inacio Cc: Mike Patterson , "ipfix@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [IPFIX] New Version Notification for draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:19:24 -0000 Chris If possible I would like to avoid fragmentation, thus I believe that given y= our offer it is important to synchronize us. Please send me more information= about what you have in mind, and I will think about it. I have implemented a= pplication application detection in my probe, but not yet released, thus thi= s is a good time for synching. Cheers Luca=20 Sent from my iPad On 13/nov/2011, at 06:15, Chris Inacio wrote: >=20 > On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Luca Deri wrote: >=20 >> Dear all, >> IMHO it is important to standardize a way to export application informati= on in IPFIX. This draft is a good starting point although I would like to se= e a way to export sub-protocol information. For instance today 'http' (as pr= otocol) does not mean much, so I would like to be able to also add informati= on about the sub-protocol (e.g. Facebook, Twitter, DropBox=E2=80=A6). Not th= at IETF has to standardize such (extremely volatile) protocols, but perhaps a= dd a sub-application tag I could use for that purpose. >>=20 >> In my open-source probe I already support export of application informati= on, thus as soon as there is some consensus I would like to implement the dr= aft. >>=20 > Luca, >=20 > We also export application information in YAF. I would love to coordinate= with you and synchronize how we do it. >=20 > Software Engineering Institute is a sponsored research center at Carnegie M= ellon University. I would be more than happy to host a registry mechanism f= or the community. >=20 > For folks who have interest in requesting a registry element, but not publ= ishing it, we can support that too, in order to avoid conflicts, but allow c= ompanies to innovate at their own pace. >=20 > If people are interested, I can put something together. >=20 >> Regards Luca >>=20 >=20 > Regards, > Chris >=20 >=20 >> On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Benoit Claise wrote: >>=20 >>> Dear all, Dan >>>=20 >>> A new version of this draft has been posted. >>> See http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-export-application-info-in-i= pfix-03 >>> This is basically a clean up of the previous version. >>>=20 >>> Dan,=20 >>> We would like to request an AD sponsored individual submission for this d= raft, if possible. >>>=20 >>> Regards, Paul, Nir, and Benoit. >>>=20 >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-claise-export-application= -info-in-ipfix-03.txt >>> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:29:36 -0700 >>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >>> To: bclaise@cisco.com >>> CC: bclaise@cisco.com, paitken@cisco.com, nirbd@cisco.com >>>=20 >>> A new version of I-D, draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-03.t= xt has been successfully submitted by Benoit Claise and posted to the IETF r= epository. >>>=20 >>> Filename: draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix >>> Revision: 03 >>> Title: Export of Application Information in IPFIX >>> Creation date: 2011-10-30 >>> WG ID: Individual Submission >>> Number of pages: 33 >>>=20 >>> Abstract: >>> This document specifies an extension to the IPFIX information >>> model specified in [RFC5102] to export application information. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> The IETF Secretariat >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IPFIX mailing list >>> IPFIX@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix >>=20 >> --- >>=20 >> "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. There= fore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition,= not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> IPFIX mailing list >> IPFIX@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Nov 14 12:19:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5764B1F0D04; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:19:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lwEPZ6M8HWIu; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42741F0C5E; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:19:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.63 Message-ID: <20111114201940.16375.15058.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:19:40 -0800 Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: [IPFIX] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-08.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:19:41 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the IP Flow Information Export Working Gr= oup of the IETF. Title : Flow Selection Techniques Author(s) : Salvatore D'Antonio Tanja Zseby Christian Henke Lorenzo Peluso Filename : draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-08.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2011-11-14 Flow selection is the process of selecting a subset of flows from all observed flows. The Flow Selection Process may be located at an observation point, or on an IPFIX Mediator. Flow selection reduces the effort of post-processing flow data and transferring Flow Records. This document describes motivations for flow selection and presents flow selection techniques. It provides an information model for configuring flow selection techniques and discusses what information about a flow selection process should be exported. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-08= .txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-08.= txt From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Nov 14 12:25:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAC51F0D15; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:25:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YlUsgySQQUwE; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:25:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534BD1F0D0E; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:25:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.63 Message-ID: <20111114202538.17821.79959.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:25:38 -0800 Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: [IPFIX] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-09.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:25:38 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the IP Flow Information Export Working Gr= oup of the IETF. Title : Flow Selection Techniques Author(s) : Salvatore D'Antonio Tanja Zseby Christian Henke Lorenzo Peluso Filename : draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-09.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2011-11-14 Flow selection is the process of selecting a subset of flows from all observed flows. The Flow Selection Process may be located at an observation point, or on an IPFIX Mediator. Flow selection reduces the effort of post-processing flow data and transferring Flow Records. This document describes motivations for flow selection and presents flow selection techniques. It provides an information model for configuring flow selection techniques and discusses what information about a flow selection process should be exported. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-09= .txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-09.= txt From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Nov 15 01:34:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685A711E818C; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:34:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SQqoLOnfJjW7; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:34:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F378A11E8113; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:34:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.63 Message-ID: <20111115093414.14487.2556.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:34:14 -0800 Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: [IPFIX] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipfix-rfc5815bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:34:15 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the IP Flow Information Export Working Gr= oup of the IETF. Title : Definitions of Managed Objects for IP Flow Information E= xport Author(s) : Thomas Dietz Atsushi Kobayashi Benoit Claise Gerhard Muenz Filename : draft-ietf-ipfix-rfc5815bis-00.txt Pages : 68 Date : 2011-11-14 This document defines managed objects for IP Flow Information eXport (IPFIX). These objects provide information for monitoring IPFIX Exporters and IPFIX Collectors including the basic configuration information. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-rfc5815bis-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-rfc5815bis-00.txt From n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz Tue Nov 15 18:16:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1859F11E81A2 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:16:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j3SXhRLTL8Yt for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.auckland.ac.nz (mx2.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.12.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A2411E81A0 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:16:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=auckland.ac.nz; i=n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz; q=dns/txt; s=uoa; t=1321409800; x=1352945800; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject: content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qymuvjwtrh2G0gGJAWfFTXPZvt2fNJ3uTiY5gpfDhWg=; b=XCw1lF4tagAfVZ8cZ32WB5V03hrgAAAz4BrOgxZQ3TEwrMH36Ohpgq8X G6aExuvfRVnz9xgytLD8n4EkjGN8W24/cwQ6UZbh83gb8nq5BnIo0WT6a wsJCLmqQYX4pUHCWRHMCkK+X4eabeE5jn3xeYwwUCLjvx9yctB5/OE9JM s=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,518,1315137600"; d="scan'208";a="90509932" X-Ironport-HAT: None - $RELAY-AUTH X-Ironport-Source: 130.129.18.191 - Outgoing - Outgoing-SSL Received: from dhcp-12bf.meeting.ietf.org (HELO [130.129.18.191]) ([130.129.18.191]) by mx2-int.auckland.ac.nz with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2011 15:16:38 +1300 Message-ID: <4EC31D04.2030106@auckland.ac.nz> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:16:36 +1300 From: Nevil Brownlee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipfix@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPFIX] Updated agenda for Thursday's meeting X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:16:45 -0000 Hi all: The latest version of the agenda is now on online at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/agenda/ipfix.txt Juergen isn't at this meeting, so I'll be chairing the meeting. So far no-one has volunteered to be meeting scribe(s) or jabber scribe - email me if you could do either of these, please. Cheers, Nevil -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand From paitken@cisco.com Wed Nov 16 02:04:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA2821F95B1 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:04:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id amfhFv6mfePL for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-3.cisco.com (ams-iport-3.cisco.com [144.254.224.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8487721F9540 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:04:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=paitken@cisco.com; l=603; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321437849; x=1322647449; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EzgQAT1IHxJWYztTE/lY8IoMsvixeBHvC+CxEpNghmE=; b=Awg9skiXobTkk5jL3sF+sIBArho/UBJMxYKqTMlRl7sqxen3T0rl5nzN dlnXhEmGLY73rCZGY1msyId1UA/6MSS4SvIEdVbwG5zzFYQ/gUvDILUZ0 ksj9wb8wCnj5GJeXE56M1vQp3WtH1KYm7krf4xoWRCT/5mb1tdqsr4Gqk E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAO6Jw06Q/khR/2dsb2JhbABDqXOBBYFyAQEBBBIBJUABEAsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRMBBwEBBRmHaJpZAZ5ahwKDFQSUNIU7jEE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,520,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="3201123" Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com ([144.254.72.81]) by ams-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2011 10:04:08 +0000 Received: from [144.254.153.49] (dhcp-144-254-153-49.cisco.com [144.254.153.49]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAGA4891013121; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:04:08 GMT Message-ID: <4EC38A99.9070000@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:04:09 +0000 From: Paul Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipfix@ietf.org References: <4EC31D04.2030106@auckland.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: <4EC31D04.2030106@auckland.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Nevil Brownlee Subject: Re: [IPFIX] Updated agenda for Thursday's meeting X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:04:10 -0000 Dear All, Scribing is important for those of us who are attending remotely. Without your help we can only listen, only guess what's happening, and we can't ask questions. Please volunteer! P. On 16/11/11 02:16, Nevil Brownlee wrote: > > Hi all: > > The latest version of the agenda is now on online at > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/agenda/ipfix.txt > > Juergen isn't at this meeting, so I'll be chairing the meeting. > So far no-one has volunteered to be meeting scribe(s) or jabber > scribe - email me if you could do either of these, please. > > Cheers, Nevil > From kashima@nttv6.net Wed Nov 16 20:32:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A17011E80C2 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:32:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Da4T9DE-HgxT for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from leo.nttv6.net (leo.nttv6.net [192.47.162.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2EB11E80B0 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.60.227.219] (localhost.nttv6.net [IPv6:::1]) by leo.nttv6.net (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAH4UX9B084634; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:30:33 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kashima@nttv6.net) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:30:52 +0900 From: Shingo KASHIMA To: Nevil Brownlee In-Reply-To: <4EB9D2D5.8080103@auckland.ac.nz> References: <4EB9D2D5.8080103@auckland.ac.nz> Message-Id: <20111117133051.88C6.1AB7FA03@nttv6.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.57.01 [ja] Cc: IPFIX Working Group Subject: Re: [IPFIX] Need scribes for Taipei IETF X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:32:20 -0000 Hi Nevel, > g) IEs for Data Link Layer Traffic Measurement (?) > draft-kashima-ipfix-data-link-layer-monitoring-06, 14 Sep 11 Sorry, we fail to go to Taipei. Please skip our draft in this meeting. We wil go to next meeting. Best regasrds, Shingo. On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:09:41 +1300 Nevil Brownlee san wrote: > > Hi all: > > At this stage, I don't think we have time for any more drafts to > be presented at our meeting at IETF 82. > > So now .. > - Please can I have volunteers to be Meeting Scribe and Jabber Scribe > - Who will be presenting each of the drafts listed in the agenda? > Please let me know so that I can update the agenda, > and please send me slides so that IPFIXers can look at them > before them meeting. > > Cheers, see you in Taipei, Nevil > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS > Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland > FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz Wed Nov 16 20:50:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CCF11E8088 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:50:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NtTgjfM19J2R for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.auckland.ac.nz (mx2.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.12.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D02811E8086 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:50:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=auckland.ac.nz; i=n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz; q=dns/txt; s=uoa; t=1321505437; x=1353041437; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7Q7FEkLahIj6w9+PpVOK0eqEebBStCn7VJBuNs5Jass=; b=fdcqCECwxX1ZiTSwhyheSgSfORL2v30tvb0VwvevTfLGFpuUfY6tAKyk O+fDnsicYKYAu25QPsP0tJ+ZDZF19vDXDzGXmgogQolIfwGy8kWCKIG17 uSTSTnkj3ghX9h6h8ravy+Y631usiaLqdVw5N3VdaVuC195u4K+JbzozN c=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,524,1315137600"; d="scan'208";a="90709615" X-Ironport-HAT: None - $RELAY-AUTH X-Ironport-Source: 130.129.18.191 - Outgoing - Outgoing-SSL Received: from dhcp-12bf.meeting.ietf.org (HELO [130.129.18.191]) ([130.129.18.191]) by mx2-int.auckland.ac.nz with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2011 17:50:28 +1300 Message-ID: <4EC49289.5060004@auckland.ac.nz> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:50:17 +1300 From: Nevil Brownlee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shingo KASHIMA References: <4EB9D2D5.8080103@auckland.ac.nz> <20111117133051.88C6.1AB7FA03@nttv6.net> In-Reply-To: <20111117133051.88C6.1AB7FA03@nttv6.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPFIX] Need scribes for Taipei IETF X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:50:38 -0000 Hi Shingo-san: In that case, please publish a new version of your draft, with the name changed to draft-ietf-ipfix-data-link-layer-monitoring-00.txt, Announce that it's published on the IPFIX list, and ask whether there are any further comments on it. If there aren't, we can start WG LC for it. Cheers, Nevil On 17/11/11 17:30, Shingo KASHIMA wrote: > > Hi Nevel, > >> g) IEs for Data Link Layer Traffic Measurement (?) >> draft-kashima-ipfix-data-link-layer-monitoring-06, 14 Sep 11 > > Sorry, we fail to go to Taipei. > Please skip our draft in this meeting. > We wil go to next meeting. > > Best regasrds, > Shingo. > > On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:09:41 +1300 > Nevil Brownlee san wrote: > >> >> Hi all: >> >> At this stage, I don't think we have time for any more drafts to >> be presented at our meeting at IETF 82. >> >> So now .. >> - Please can I have volunteers to be Meeting Scribe and Jabber Scribe >> - Who will be presenting each of the drafts listed in the agenda? >> Please let me know so that I can update the agenda, >> and please send me slides so that IPFIXers can look at them >> before them meeting. >> >> Cheers, see you in Taipei, Nevil >> >> -- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS >> Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland >> FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand >> _______________________________________________ >> IPFIX mailing list >> IPFIX@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix > > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand From paitken@cisco.com Thu Nov 17 00:10:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9548621F9855 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pl1VKLEu2oxP for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-3.cisco.com (ams-iport-3.cisco.com [144.254.224.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A42D1F0C47 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:09:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=paitken@cisco.com; l=498; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321517398; x=1322726998; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: content-transfer-encoding; bh=aEmq01I1J/9Q89HZ7Y+OpvIsZZxlif/Y8AjYKTqjgX0=; b=BSHSbUeVNzLIhdMDZk7rGtU2wjIviI+wsAeO0GUj0ynA4F+lc92LY1eC 1GCqg5HoivnbO5E5vuRu0FWXfbYGvMyFj4FXoeHAYAcH02ImLC6+pMhs9 KO1aQ+7tjSoaGjYefErJ9bAsKE90k5dv0XrWnBTbbMR2hD/Qg3L/5Go/A k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgYQAGXAxE6Q/khR/2dsb2JhbABCpAOFfIEFggsBJUABPBYYAwIBAgFLDQEHAQEenF8BnjeKFwSUNYU7jEE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,525,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="3298287" Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com ([144.254.72.81]) by ams-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2011 08:09:57 +0000 Received: from [10.61.84.42] (ams3-vpn-dhcp5163.cisco.com [10.61.84.42]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAH89uks024314; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:09:56 GMT Message-ID: <4EC4C154.1020006@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:09:56 +0000 From: Paul Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Trammell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: IETF IPFIX Working Group Subject: [IPFIX] IPFIX IE Doctors X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:10:03 -0000 Brian, SInce IANA is _the_ repository, that's the place where people will be copying IPFIX IEs from. So that's the place where the "not recommended" status should be recorded. It shouldn't be in a separate wiki, nor in an RFC, since we know that people are lazy and don't look in multiple places. The status could be "not recommended", "discouraged" or "disapproved". Or convince the originator of how to export the information correctly, and mark the IE as deprecated. P. From dromasca@avaya.com Thu Nov 17 00:22:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D0311E8171 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:22:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.377 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.377 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.222, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EWQ4utNvAFLr for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B53411E815D for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:22:11 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtABAETDxE7GmAcF/2dsb2JhbABCmXiKC4V8gQWBcgEBAQEDAQEBDx4KNAsMBAIBCA0BAwQBAQsGDAsBBgEmHwkIAQEEARIIGodol3KbQgSJNGMEmg+MIw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,525,1315195200"; d="scan'208";a="277907885" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2011 03:22:08 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.14]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2011 03:20:52 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:22:04 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4EC4C154.1020006@cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: [IPFIX] IPFIX IE Doctors thread-index: AcylAFULjcvrvXliTZyBmT4GH7PmdgAAM6MQ References: <4EC4C154.1020006@cisco.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Paul Aitken" , "Brian Trammell" Cc: IETF IPFIX Working Group Subject: Re: [IPFIX] IPFIX IE Doctors X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:22:13 -0000 This approach may be problematic. What you say is that we now have three states for the IEs in the IANA repository - 'recommended', 'not recommended' (or similar) and 'deprecated'. While I believe that this may be useful I do not think that this kind of information is appropriate for an IANA registry. If we end by taking it we need also to define the criteria of changing between the stated, so the whole state machine becomes more complicated.=20 Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ipfix-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Paul Aitken > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:10 AM > To: Brian Trammell > Cc: IETF IPFIX Working Group > Subject: [IPFIX] IPFIX IE Doctors >=20 > Brian, >=20 > SInce IANA is _the_ repository, that's the place where people will be > copying IPFIX IEs from. >=20 > So that's the place where the "not recommended" status should be > recorded. >=20 > It shouldn't be in a separate wiki, nor in an RFC, since we know that > people are lazy and don't look in multiple places. >=20 > The status could be "not recommended", "discouraged" or "disapproved". >=20 > Or convince the originator of how to export the information correctly, > and mark the IE as deprecated. >=20 > P. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From bclaise@cisco.com Thu Nov 17 03:29:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9191621F9A4C for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:29:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5ZUby+CEFY+c for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-sj.cisco.com (firebird.cisco.com [171.68.227.73]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B335721F9BEF for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:29:48 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from fire.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-sj.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAHBTm89022839 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.21.81.176] (sjc-vpn4-432.cisco.com [10.21.81.176]) by fire.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAHBTjXL012926 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:29:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC4F028.2040201@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:29:44 +0800 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ipfix@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPFIX] draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbeat X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:29:49 -0000 Dear all, As Chris mentioned during the meeting. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbeat/ Note the 3 DISCUSS. Regards, Benoit. From n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz Thu Nov 17 18:53:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881031F0C3D for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:53:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qudFfXG9MKcu for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.auckland.ac.nz (mx2.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.12.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB641F0C34 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:53:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=auckland.ac.nz; i=n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz; q=dns/txt; s=uoa; t=1321584826; x=1353120826; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: content-transfer-encoding; bh=HwHcP/VpryvC3KbEdFfekDSOan36CU6Bp9HtjhyXuRk=; b=VoCenzioZDTqA+uF8gcbWFqf76jbw5qMI5AtBn2fQpl/fe3S6z+/euBr 9d8yTbFolHpmAJXucaxLx5Ai3DTiBC+YmXR4fwJ9giDrUpLC/pvHRgCj4 saPJrFuAqVfC6JcMBTh7WR3y/2KGhix1BF8v2i26lmaPLNoy5idHZokWW k=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,530,1315137600"; d="scan'208";a="90880872" X-Ironport-HAT: None - $RELAY-AUTH X-Ironport-Source: 130.129.18.191 - Outgoing - Outgoing-SSL Received: from dhcp-12bf.meeting.ietf.org (HELO [130.129.18.191]) ([130.129.18.191]) by mx2-int.auckland.ac.nz with ESMTP; 18 Nov 2011 15:53:38 +1300 Message-ID: <4EC5C8A4.1040104@auckland.ac.nz> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:53:24 +1300 From: Nevil Brownlee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: [IPFIX] DRAFT minutes for Thursday's IPFIX meeting X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:53:47 -0000 Hi Dan et al: Here are our draft minutes, and a one-para summary of them. WG members: please send any corrections or improvements to me. Cheers, Nevil -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand From n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz Thu Nov 17 20:46:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3503811E808B for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:46:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q8j3a5c0QQAU for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.auckland.ac.nz (mx2.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.12.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C989D11E8097 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:46:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=auckland.ac.nz; i=n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz; q=dns/txt; s=uoa; t=1321591564; x=1353127564; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to; bh=K8f7wL6/YKuREddiXQHSlLmTx59oIONzFzPBrHviWIw=; b=QiuYeMQQFr+ey0AO8L8V++LtvWqbfP7oDfguBUGZ4JCDe/nfeqn8Fqkh scgrhby7w+vS7OajUrb0OnSP2u/QbPkIJ5r2AL8/vnT6r7mYwjtDwaI0n GuRbVgiujAW2+PoGEO4TYH8MV6AzICyikcpsO4aU9+Re1fP9h3uIQ974q 4=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,530,1315137600"; d="txt'?scan'208";a="90898965" X-Ironport-HAT: None - $RELAY-AUTH X-Ironport-Source: 130.129.18.191 - Outgoing - Outgoing-SSL Received: from dhcp-12bf.meeting.ietf.org (HELO [130.129.18.191]) ([130.129.18.191]) by mx2-int.auckland.ac.nz with ESMTP; 18 Nov 2011 17:46:00 +1300 Message-ID: <4EC5E307.8080203@auckland.ac.nz> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:45:59 +1300 From: Nevil Brownlee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" References: <4EC5C8A4.1040104@auckland.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: <4EC5C8A4.1040104@auckland.ac.nz> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040004070700030401090402" Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPFIX] DRAFT minutes for Thursday's IPFIX meeting X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:46:11 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040004070700030401090402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops, too quick to hit send. Here they are ... Cheers, Nevil On 18/11/11 15:53, Nevil Brownlee wrote: > > Hi Dan et al: > > Here are our draft minutes, and a one-para summary of them. > > WG members: please send any corrections or improvements to me. > > Cheers, Nevil -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand --------------040004070700030401090402 Content-Type: text/plain; name="82-minutes-00.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="82-minutes-00.txt" Minutes of the IPFIX meeting at IETF 82 About 19 people present Scribes: Chris Innacio & Nevil Brownlee Nevil opened the meeting, pointing out that two drafts from our current charter are still uncompleted: - PSAMP MIB (depends on change to IPFIX MIB, see below) - Flow Selection (many changes since Quebec meeting, needs new WG LC; IPR issues being explored with draft authors and AT&T) We expect that these two will be finished soon. The next part of the meeting discussed items from our new charter. All of these are expected to be republished as new (-00) IPFIX WG drafts, we believe that some of them (as mentioned below) are now ready for WG Last Call. Shingo Kashima sent apologies for the link-layer monitoring draft, so it was not discussed at this meeting. Brian Trammell presented the "IE Doctors" draft; several people commented that the draft explains clearly why some existing Information Elements are 'bad,' it needs some examples of 'good' IEs. The authors will add this into the WG -00 version. Brian presented the "IPFIX Aggregation" draft, WGLC will start when its WG -00 version is published. Benoit Claise presented two drafts that begin the process for advancing the IPFIX base RFCs along the Standards Track. The first was 5101bis, IPFIX Protocol. Many of the proposed changes are 'editorial,' e.g. responding to errata confirmed for 5101. Others are more technical, especially those relating to Template Management and Security for transport protocols other than TCP. In particular, there was considerable discussion of the need to do interoperability testing of DTLS over UDP. That discussion will continue on the IPFIX list, everyone please read this draft carefully and post comments on it! The second was 5102bis, IPFIX Information Model. After discussion, the meeting agreed that we should remove the list of IEs from this draft, i.e. it should simply point to the IANA IE Registry as the definitive document for the IPFIX Information Elements. The XML schema for that registry was also discussed - perhaps a snapshot of it should be in this draft, with the comment that IANA maintain it and may need to change it from time to time. Another issue raised was the 'state' of IEs; states 'current,' 'deprecated' and 'not recommended' were suggested. The state machine for this should probably be in the IE Doctors draft, and it's not clear whether an IE's state should be displayed in the IANA IE Registry. Discussion will continue on the list. Benoit presented the Exporting MIB Variables draft. Discussion centred on the need for a new IPFIX data type for SNMP variables, how best to export variables from SNMP tables, and how best to represent SNMP variables in IPFIX templates. Brian pointed out that we need to be careful that whatever mechanism we adopt needs to allow for future IE namespace growth in a generic way. Discussion will continue on the list. Benoit presented the 5815bis (IPFIX MIB) draft; the only change here is to create a new OID registry for ipfixSelectorFunctions. WGLC will start now (i.e. without waiting for the WG -00 version). The IPFIX Mediation Protocol draft was not presented or discussed, since it's authors believe it is ready for last call now. WGLC will start when its WG -00 version is published. Brian Trammel presented his comments on RFC 6313, Structured Data. It would be useful to add data type information to structured information; e.g., add an options template with the 'type' information, and then extend the structured data types to include another field that points to the options template 'type' information. This discussion will continue on the list. Benoit presented his draft on Exporting Application Information, which has attracted considerable interest on the IPFIX list. Chris Inacio has volunteered to host a 'registry' of Application Identifiers that members of the measurement community could contribute to. Benoit has asked for AD support of this draft as an IETF Individual Submission. There was no time left to discuss Andrew Yourtchenko's Cisco IEs draft. The meeting finished at 1725. - - - - - One-para Summary The IPFIX WG met on Thursday afternoon. Two items from our previous charter should be completed soon. Four of our current drafts were presented and discussed, we have three drafts that will begin WGLC shortly. - - - - - --------------040004070700030401090402-- From trammell@tik.ee.ethz.ch Mon Nov 21 05:17:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CED21F8C43 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 05:17:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vuScZeIjZ5cI for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 05:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch (smtp.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.219]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC75021F8C3E for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 05:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A51D930A; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:16:59 +0100 (MET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new on smtp.ee.ethz.ch Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 3xcP1vOPw6FO; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:16:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from pb-10243.ethz.ch (pb-10243.ethz.ch [82.130.102.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: briant) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 71714D9308; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:16:59 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Brian Trammell In-Reply-To: <4EC4C154.1020006@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:16:58 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <93B976A2-8BC4-49A9-9133-4A28C250A509@tik.ee.ethz.ch> References: <4EC4C154.1020006@cisco.com> To: Paul Aitken X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: IETF IPFIX Working Group Subject: Re: [IPFIX] IPFIX IE Doctors X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:17:02 -0000 Hi, Paul, Thanks for the comment. I agree in principle; however I'd like to = suggest something that doesn't have the risk of mixing information = element status (defined in 5102/5102bis) which provides information to = IPFIX implementors, and this, which provides information to people = extending IPFIX (who are often themselves implementors of the new = application, but this is still subtly different)... Since the current/deprecated/obsolete status may have runtime impact = (i.e. logging at the collector "hey your exporter is ancient"), while = "please don't define new IEs based on this one" is meant for humans, I = suggest that we update each Information Element with a note in the = Description field, stating "This Information Element should not be used = as an example or precedent when defining new Information Elements," or = similar. (If we ensure the string is easily searchable, we can make = things easier for IE Doctors.) Thoughts? Cheers, Brian On Nov 17, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Paul Aitken wrote: > Brian, >=20 > SInce IANA is _the_ repository, that's the place where people will be = copying IPFIX IEs from. >=20 > So that's the place where the "not recommended" status should be = recorded. >=20 > It shouldn't be in a separate wiki, nor in an RFC, since we know that = people are lazy and don't look in multiple places. >=20 > The status could be "not recommended", "discouraged" or "disapproved". >=20 > Or convince the originator of how to export the information correctly, = and mark the IE as deprecated. >=20 > P. 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If you have comments on this, please email them to the IPFIX list. Cheers, Nevil -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department | ITS Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Nov 22 08:41:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD3821F8D0C; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:41:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.539 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X9XwcDwVjtS3; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:41:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94F321F8D07; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:41:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64 Message-ID: <20111122164110.18400.7747.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:41:10 -0800 Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: [IPFIX] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipfix-a9n-00.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:41:11 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the IP Flow Information Export Working Gr= oup of the IETF. Title : Flow Aggregation for the IP Flow Information Export (IPF= IX) Protocol Author(s) : Brian Trammell Arno Wagner Benoit Claise Filename : draft-ietf-ipfix-a9n-00.txt Pages : 46 Date : 2011-11-21 This document describes the export of aggregated Flow information using IPFIX. An Aggregated Flow is essentially an IPFIX Flow representing packets from multiple Original Flows sharing some set of common properties. The document describes Aggregated Flow export within the framework of IPFIX Mediators and defines an interoperable, implementation-independent method for Aggregated Flow export. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-a9n-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-a9n-00.txt From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Nov 22 08:42:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ipfix@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D543121F8D37; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:42:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.556 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wut80s67zud9; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A77721F8D2C; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:42:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64 Message-ID: <20111122164205.18108.27610.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:42:05 -0800 Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: [IPFIX] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipfix-ie-doctors-00.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:42:06 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the IP Flow Information Export Working Gr= oup of the IETF. Title : Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of IPFIX Informatio= n Elements Author(s) : Brian Trammell Benoit Claise Filename : draft-ietf-ipfix-ie-doctors-00.txt Pages : 28 Date : 2011-11-21 This document provides guidelines for the definition of IPFIX Information Elements for addition to the IANA IPFIX Information Element registry, in order to extend the applicability of the IPFIX protocol to new operations and management areas. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-ie-doctors-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-ie-doctors-00.txt