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On the other hand, a label set that includes one or more labels for the downstream path is carried by Path message and the Resv message selects a label at each node (upstream direction). in brief two mechanisms are currently considered for label selection: - Unidirectional LSP: (downstream) label set - Bi-directional LSP: (downstream) label set and upstream label with the following remark: bi-directional lsp could be made up two uni-directional lsps (with all the complexity you have mentioned) and the suggested label allows for a commodity (as such it could be in the future integrated within the label set by simply adding a flag since it has a restricted semantic with respect to the downstream label set) taking a look at the following i-d: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-oki-ccamp-upstream-labelset-00.txt an improvement is discussed to extend the upstream label to an upstream label set, thus one would have the following symmetric approach: - Unidirectional selection scheme: (downstream) label set - Bi-directional selection scheme: (downstream) label set and upstream label set this seems to be aligned with what you have referred to as a "symmetric" approach of the label selection problem, i don't know how deep you plan to go in these applicability statements but it seems worth spending some text on this issue (which is by the way unique to all-optical networks ie when signal is not electrically terminated at each hop) thanks, - dimitri. -- Papadimitriou Dimitri E-mail : dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel.be Website: http://www.rc.bel.alcatel.be/~papadimd/index.html Address: Alcatel - Optical NA, Fr. Wellesplein, 1 B-2018 Antwerpen, Belgium Phone: Work: +32 3 2408491 - Home: +32 2 3434361 _______________________________________________ IP-Optical mailing list IP-Optical@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/ip-optical From ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Aug 8 14:57:20 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA23329 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g78IpI229408; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:51:18 -0400 Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (ns2.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g78IlA229379 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:47:10 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by crufty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78IlALI059128 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 94AC24439E; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: ip-optical@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B30D4439D for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g78Il3o25170 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atlntex01.movaz.com ([65.205.166.141]) by dusty; Thu Aug 8 14:41:39 EDT 2002 Received: from BLIULAPTOP ([172.16.24.104]) by atlntex01.movaz.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:47:00 -0400 Message-ID: <03cf01c23f0b$faa62da0$681810ac@movaz.com> From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , "Awduche, Daniel" , References: <3D4EDCF6.2B4CC3D8@alcatel.be> Subject: Re: [IP-Optical] on draft-awduche-ipo-gmpls-signaling-applicability-00.txt X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2002 18:47:00.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[FAB3C230:01C23F0B] Sender: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:46:59 -0400 Hi Dimitri, Thanks for your comments. > in the above mentioned document section 6.2.1, you discuss > the applicability of the currently available label selection > schemes with respect to the LSP directionality (uni vs bi) [SNIP] > with the following remark: bi-directional lsp could be made up > two uni-directional lsps (with all the complexity you have > mentioned) and the suggested label allows for a commodity > (as such it could be in the future integrated within the label > set by simply adding a flag since it has a restricted semantic > with respect to the downstream label set) > > taking a look at the following i-d: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-oki-ccamp-upstream-labelset-00.txt > > an improvement is discussed to extend the upstream label to an > upstream label set, thus one would have the following symmetric > approach: > - Unidirectional selection scheme: (downstream) label set > - Bi-directional selection scheme: (downstream) label set and upstream > label set > > this seems to be aligned with what you have referred to as a > "symmetric" approach of the label selection problem, i don't > know how deep you plan to go in these applicability statements > but it seems worth spending some text on this issue (which > is by the way unique to all-optical networks ie when signal > is not electrically terminated at each hop) All you say is good and right and the oki draft presents some interesting possibilities, but the applicability statement is intended to apply to the current Working Group drafts for GMPLS signaling. As and when new GMPLS signaling work is adopted by the WG I'm sure this applicability statement will be extended or an addendum will be issued. Cheers, Adrian _______________________________________________ IP-Optical mailing list IP-Optical@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/ip-optical From ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon Aug 19 10:04:01 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA02281 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JDrZ207450; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:53:35 -0400 Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (ns2.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JA7k206518 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 06:07:46 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by crufty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7JA7kLI080575 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 06:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id CA9B44439E; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: ip-optical@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C304439D for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 06:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by scummy.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7JA7ck06758 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 06:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from isc.iitr.ernet.in ([202.141.62.10]) by dusty; Mon Aug 19 06:07:37 EDT 2002 Received: from localhost (nbuoruee@localhost) by isc.iitr.ernet.in (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04249 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:44:39 +0500 (IST) From: Nikhil Bhatia To: ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [IP-Optical] Standard.) Sender: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:44:39 +0500 (IST) Hi All, I am working in the development of LowOrder Virtual Concatenation FPGA Design .It will be great if you could mail me the T1.105 Standard and G.7042. With Regards Nikhil Nikhil Bhatia Design Engineer Hardware Division Oss Systems Ltd.,Mumbai rite2nikhil@ieee.org BTech Electrical Engineering Indian Institute of Technology,Roorkee ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ IP-Optical mailing list IP-Optical@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/ip-optical From ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon Aug 19 11:25:02 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA05572 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JFKK208114; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:20:20 -0400 Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (ns2.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JFJq208092 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:19:52 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by crufty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7JFJqLI084009 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 149F94439E; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: ip-optical@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28564439D for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:19:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ihmail.ih.lucent.com (ihmail.ih.lucent.com [135.1.218.70]) by scummy.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7JFJjk25568 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucent.com (sjtrowbridge-1.dr.lucent.com [135.4.20.23]) by ihmail.ih.lucent.com (8.8.8+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id KAA28468; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:19:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3D610C8E.7AB2C52E@lucent.com> From: Stephen Trowbridge Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD EMS-1.5 (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikhil Bhatia Cc: ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com Subject: Re: [IP-Optical] Standard.) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:19:42 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nikhil, I assume from the question that you are not a member of T1X1 or ITU-T (in which case you would have access). I can speak for ITU-T: Recommendations are available electronically from the ITU-T web site: http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/ (Follow the link to "Recommendations and other publications" and navigate to G.7042) Up to three Recommendations per email address per year can be downloaded for free. You can download the Nov 2001 version of G.7042 in this way, or by purchase for 20 swiss francs. The June 2002 corrigendum (corrections) is also available for download in the "pre-published" form (straight from the authoring study group and not yet cleaned up by the ITU-T editors) and may be downloaded at no charge. Hope this helps. Steve Trowbridge Vice-chair, ITU-T Study Group 15 Nikhil Bhatia wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am working in the development of LowOrder Virtual Concatenation FPGA > Design .It will be great if you could mail me the T1.105 Standard and > G.7042. > With Regards > Nikhil > > Nikhil Bhatia > Design Engineer > Hardware Division > Oss Systems Ltd.,Mumbai > > rite2nikhil@ieee.org > BTech Electrical Engineering > Indian Institute of Technology,Roorkee > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > IP-Optical mailing list > IP-Optical@lists.bell-labs.com > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/ip-optical _______________________________________________ IP-Optical mailing list IP-Optical@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/ip-optical From ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Wed Aug 21 16:39:37 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA24949 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7LKWM222140; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:32:23 -0400 Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (ns2.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7LKV0222127 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:31:00 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by crufty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7LKV0LI032131 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 751F44439E; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: ip-optical@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEB94439D for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by scummy.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7LKUrk58402 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.alcatel.be ([195.207.101.250]) by dusty; Wed Aug 21 16:30:53 EDT 2002 Received: from bemail05.net.alcatel.be (relay3 [127.0.0.1]) by mail.alcatel.be (8.11.0/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g7LKPa500458 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 22:25:39 +0200 Received: from alcatel.be ([138.203.67.40]) by bemail05.net.alcatel.be (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 2002082122304369:6271 ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 22:30:43 +0200 Message-ID: <3D63F89D.23DBCB2F@alcatel.be> From: Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be Organization: Alcatel Bell - Optical NA (Antwerpen) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com" X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on BEMAIL05/BE/ALCATEL(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/21/2002 22:30:43, Serialize by Router on BEMAIL05/BE/ALCATEL(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 08/21/2002 22:30:48, Serialize complete at 08/21/2002 22:30:48 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [IP-Optical] last iesg meeting report... Sender: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 22:31:25 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit as mentioned in the latest IESG meeting report (July 25) "9. No final action was taken for the following WG documents: [...] Note: References need to be split o Impairments And Other Constraints On Optical Layer Routing (Informational) o IP over Optical Networks: A Framework (Informational) " may i ask here what are the potential reasons ? is it only due to the ref splitting, or is there something else to be expected ? an additional review ? also is there something more specifically expected from the wg ? thanks, - dimitri. _______________________________________________ IP-Optical mailing list IP-Optical@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/ip-optical From ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Aug 22 13:32:41 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA03761 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MHS6227859; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:28:06 -0400 Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MHR0227845 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:27:00 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by crufty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7MHR0LI046115 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:27:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 8498A4439E; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: ip-optical@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FD54439D for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7MHQro12836 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.san.yahoo.com ([209.132.1.30]) by dusty; Thu Aug 22 13:26:53 EDT 2002 Received: from AwducheHPlapt (68.100.185.217) by mail.san.yahoo.com (6.5.026.2) id 3D64C49300021A1D; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:25:13 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Daniel Awduche" To: , Subject: RE: [IP-Optical] last iesg meeting report... Message-ID: <000c01c24a00$e8248c80$d9b96444@movaz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3D63F89D.23DBCB2F@alcatel.be> Sender: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:25:25 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dimitri, The meeting report simply indicates the IESG has not yet taken action (at the time of the meeting) concerning the referenced documents. Pertinent information will be provided once the documents are acted upon. BTW, please note my new email address(es) and update your records accordingly. awduche@awduche.com OR awduche@isocore.com Cheers, /Dan -----Original Message----- From: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com [mailto:ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com]On Behalf Of Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:31 PM To: ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com Subject: [IP-Optical] last iesg meeting report... as mentioned in the latest IESG meeting report (July 25) "9. No final action was taken for the following WG documents: [...] Note: References need to be split o Impairments And Other Constraints On Optical Layer Routing (Informational) o IP over Optical Networks: A Framework (Informational) " may i ask here what are the potential reasons ? is it only due to the ref splitting, or is there something else to be expected ? an additional review ? also is there something more specifically expected from the wg ? thanks, - dimitri. _______________________________________________ IP-Optical mailing list IP-Optical@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/ip-optical _______________________________________________ IP-Optical mailing list IP-Optical@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/ip-optical From ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Aug 29 10:34:39 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA24145 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7TETN209999; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:29:23 -0400 Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7TESH209986 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:28:17 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by dirty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7TESHhN031471 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 6F36B4439E; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: ip-optical@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D3F4439D for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7TESAo23787 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web8105.in.yahoo.com ([203.199.70.105]) by dusty; Thu Aug 29 10:28:10 EDT 2002 Message-ID: <20020829142808.38743.qmail@web8105.in.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.145.184.120] by web8105.mail.in.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:28:08 BST From: =?iso-8859-1?q?jawahar=20ali?= To: ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [IP-Optical] What next? Sender: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: ip-optical-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:28:08 +0100 (BST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Friends, I like to do my PostGraduate, i donno what to choose as Major and which Country. I have completed my B.E in Electronics and Communication and worked around two years in SONET/SDH along with FPGA coding (vhdl/verilog). Now i am cofused whether to do M.S in Telecommunciation or M.S in IC designing. Also i have plan to do my M.S in U.K. Is it advisable to do there? Please suggest which course has good future? Thanx in advance.. 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