From ipp-owner@pwg.org Fri Sep 4 12:55:14 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id MAA05325 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05872; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:52:35 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:52:35 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05863; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:52:16 -0400 From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809041654.AA28326@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:54:02 -0400 Subject: IPP> IPP List back up Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org The IPP and the other PWG DL's are back up..... ********************************************** * Don Wright don@lexmark.com * * Product Manager, Strategic Alliances * * Lexmark International * * 740 New Circle Rd * * Lexington, Ky 40550 * * 606-232-4808 (phone) 606-232-6740 (fax) * ********************************************** From ipp-owner@pwg.org Fri Sep 4 20:30:34 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id UAA13405 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA07295; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:26:44 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:26:44 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA07287; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:26:26 -0400 Message-ID: <918C79AB552BD211A2BD00805F15CE8512C4EC@x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com> From: "Manros, Carl-Uno B" To: ietf-announce@ietf.orglist Cc: "Moore, Keith" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4ltstr=F6m=2C_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Patrik?= , IPP WG Subject: IPP> IPP Meeting hosted by the PWG in Savannah, GA - September 30 - Oc tober 1, 1998 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:25:38 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org The Printer Working Group (PWG) will host the next IPP meeting in Savannah, GA on September 30 - October 1, 1998. These meetings are typically attended by some 20 printing and protocol experts. Time: Starting at 10 a.m. on September 30, 1998 Finishing at 6 p.m. on October 1, 1998 Location: Savannah Marriott Riverfront Hotel 100 General McIntosh Boulevard Savannah, GA 31401 Phone: 912-233-7722 Fax: 912-233-3765 Registration: Send email note to: rturner@sharplabs.com, manros@cp10.es.xerox.com, don@lexmark.com Hotel rate: A conference rate of $165 is available from Marriott. Mention "Sharp" if you want to use this. Book NOW if you want to attend. Additionally, you are expected to contribute to meeting room costs at about $60/day, either you are in the Marriott or not. Further info: http://192.146.101.49/chair/sav-ga.html Agenda: Generic Agenda - Discuss any feedback from the IESG - Check recent IPP drafts - Discuss any questions or bugs found by implementors - Discuss future extensions to IPP (beyond the current IPP WG scope) Look at the IPP WG DL for more detailed agenda closer to the meeting date Carl-Uno Manros Chair of IETF IPP WG manros@cp10.es.xerox.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Sep 7 20:57:49 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id UAA20355 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:57:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA10701; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:54:06 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:54:05 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA10692; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:53:46 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809080056.AA21768@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:55:45 -0400 Subject: IPP> test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org This is just a test ....please ignore Roger Eggleston From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 8 13:01:43 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id NAA09527 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 13:01:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA14617; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:59:04 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:59:04 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA14606; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:58:45 -0400 Message-ID: <003e01bdd9cb$dfeece80$8dc245c6@rajesh.ari.net> From: "Rajesh Chawla" To: "IPP Mailing List" Subject: IPP> e-Print Test Suite Beta (0.3) available Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:23:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org This is to announce the free availability of the second beta release of the e-print Test Suite at http://www.trcs.com. The e-print Test Suite is an IPP client that facilitates the testing of printers that implement the Internet Printing Protocol (IPP). There are several sample scripts that can serve as a basis for testing for the upcoming IPP bake-off. These sample scripts will be enhanced and expanded by the time of the bake-off. The e-print Test Suite is built on the framework of the e-print Engine. The e-print Test Suite provides the IPP server developer essential tools to aid in the development and testing of IPP printers. The capabilities of the e-print Test Suite include: o Uses an XML interface to drive the ePrint Test Suite. o Allows reproduction of tests by providing a file interface to store tests. o Allows attributes to be specified that are not part of the IPP standard. o Allows the output of one request to "feed" the input of another request. o Provides the ability to specify "expected" values from a request. o Allows the specification of valid or invalid values to be sent to the IPP server. o Written entirely in Java. o Full tracing of requests and replies. For more information or to download a copy of the beta software, please visit our website at http://www.trcs.com or e-mail Rajesh Chawla at rajesh@trcs.com. ================================================ Rajesh Chawla TR Computing Solutions (703)724-2533 (Voice) 13622 Flintwood Place (703) 904-9689 (Fax) Herndon VA 20171 http://www.trcs.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 8 20:15:38 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id UAA17568 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA16017; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:13:03 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:13:03 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA15994; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:12:42 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:46:47 PDT From: "Zehler, Peter " Subject: IPP> TES IPP bake-off help required To: "IPP Discussion List (E-mail)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org All, I am in need of an additional participant for the IPP bake-off at Microsoft from September 23-25. The role of this participant will be to assist in the recording of bake-off results, capturing of issues raised and as an all around bake-off facilitator. The candidate must not already be attending the bake-off. If you are interested in this challenging and non-paying position please send me an email by the close of business Wednesday September 9. Thanks, Pete Peter Zehler XEROX Networked Products Business Unit Email: Peter.Zehler@usa.xerox.com Voice: (716) 265-8755 FAX: (716) 265-8792 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 111-02J Webster NY, 14580-9701 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 9 07:46:11 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id HAA00350 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA17413; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:42:31 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:42:30 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA17405; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:42:11 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:44:14 PDT From: "Zehler, Peter " Subject: IPP> TES IPP bake-off help required To: "IPP Discussion List (E-mail)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org All, I am in need of an additional participant for the IPP bake-off at Microsoft from September 23-25. The role of this participant will be to assist in the recording of bake-off results, capturing of issues raised and as an all around bake-off facilitator. The candidate must not already be attending the bake-off. If you are interested in this challenging and non-paying position please send me an email by the close of business Thursday September 10. Thanks, Pete Peter Zehler XEROX Networked Products Business Unit Email: Peter.Zehler@usa.xerox.com Voice: (716) 265-8755 FAX: (716) 265-8792 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 111-02J Webster NY, 14580-9701 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 9 09:05:43 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id JAA01178 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA17535; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:01:59 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:01:56 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA17527; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:00:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:00:55 -0700 From: "TR Computing Solutions Inc." Message-Id: <199809091300.GAA03323@web04.bigbiz.com> To: ipp@@pwg.org Subject: IPP> Testing Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org What are you reading?? Words, just words. ps. This is just a test. From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 9 14:45:59 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id OAA09760 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA18662; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:42:48 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:42:47 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA18648; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:42:27 -0400 From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809091842.OAA18632@pwg.org> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 22:56:56 -0400 Subject: IPP> Test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Is this working yet -- wait -- don't answer that. I'll see the reflection myself......... Don From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 9 15:00:26 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id PAA09969 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA18719; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:57:26 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:57:26 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA18711; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:57:10 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809091857.OAA18707@pwg.org> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:07:23 -0400 Subject: IPP> Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Are you getting this mail.....please reply Thanks, Roger Eggleston From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 9 16:56:42 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id QAA12658 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA18800; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:53:58 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:53:58 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA18786; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:53:17 -0400 From: Carl Kugler To: Cc: Subject: Re: PWG> IPP> PRO> HTTP Connection: close Message-ID: <5030100025646607000002L072*@MHS> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:53:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id QAA12658 I agree that the client and server must accept the Connection: close header. I'm wondering how to satisfy the requirement that the client and server MUST include this header for the last operation in a sequence of operations. Specifically, how do the client and server know, a priori, that the current operation is the last operation in a sequence (and therefore MUST include the Co nnection: close header)? -Carl rturner@sharplabs.com on 09/09/98 02:17:29 PM Please respond to rturner@sharplabs.com To: Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM@ibmus cc: ipp@@pwg.org Subject: Re: PWG> IPP> PRO> HTTP Connection: close I tend to follow the saying "Be conservative in what you send, and liberal in what you accept..." Whether the text says MUST or not, IMHO we should be designing clients and servers to handle a "connection: close" header whenever it is received and still function normally, albeit with possibly less performance. Since I am not working on a client, I cannot speak for what clients are or will actually do, but I do think the client end should drive the connection status, whevever possible. Randy Carl Kugler wrote: > Section 4.1, General Headers, says > General Header: Connection > "close" only. Both client and server SHOULD keep a connection for the > duration of a sequence of operations. The client and server MUST include this > header for the last operation in such a sequence. > Consider the (presumably typical) case of an interactive IPP client with a user > interface. How is the client to know when the current operation is the last of > a sequence of user-initiated actions? Apparently, the only safe way to sat isfy > the MUST (an absolute requirement of the specification) would be to send > "close" after each user-initiated action. But this would violate the SHOULD, > and is contrary to the recommendations of "HTTP Connection Management", > http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/ietf/http/draft-ietf-http-connection-00.txt > > Quoting: > "Authoritative knowledge that it is appropriate to close a connection > can only come from the user. Unfortunately, that source is not to be > trusted. First, most users don't know what a connection is, and > having them indicate it is okay to close it is meaningless. Second, a > user that does know what a connection is probably inherently greedy. > Such a user would never surrender the attention that a connection to > a server implies. > But this is talking about the client actually closing the connection, not > sending a header to the server to signal that the connection will be closed > after completion of the response. Obviously, the header can only be sent as > part of a request. Also, "HTTP Connection Management" says clients SHOULD > close connections before servers when possible. > How are you implementing this requirement? > > -Carl, From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Sep 10 04:58:22 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id EAA24443 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id EAA19303; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:55:49 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:55:49 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id EAA19295; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:55:29 -0400 From: henrik.holst@i-data.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: I-DATA To: ipp@@pwg.org Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:58:18 +0100 Subject: IPP> Bake off MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Hi I would like to know, what time do we expect to stop friday the 25th september at bake-off, cause I am going to make reservation for my flight back. Regards Henrik Holst ___________________________________________________________ Henrik Holst Software engineer - developing embedded Printservers i-data International Vadstrupvej 35-43, 2880 Bagsvaerd, Denmark Voice: (+45) 44366271 Fax: (+45) 44366111 Email: henrik.holst@i-data.com WEB: www.i-data.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Sep 10 05:44:48 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id FAA24626 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id FAA19362; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:42:16 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:42:16 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id FAA19343; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:41:55 -0400 From: henrik.holst@i-data.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: I-DATA To: ipp@@pwg.org Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:45:01 +0100 Subject: IPP> Model document questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org I've got following questions when I read and implement the model document. 1. In section 4.1.11 the the words say that "The 'boolean' attribute syntax is similar to an enum with only two values: 'true' and 'false'. " And in section 4.1.4 the words says "The 'enum' attribute syntax is an enumerated integer value that is in the range from 1 to 2**31 - 1 (MAX)." Does this mean, that a boolean attribute got a 32 bit size value? In the protocol document, it says that a boolean is a byte size! 2. In section 3.2.6.1 'Get-Jobs Request' I wondered, if the attribute 'my-jobs' is present and set to TRUE, MUST the 'requesting-user-name' attribute be there to, and if it's not present what should the IPP printer do? Regards Henrik Holst ___________________________________________________________ Henrik Holst Software engineer - developing embedded Printservers i-data International Vadstrupvej 35-43, 2880 Bagsvaerd, Denmark Voice: (+45) 44366271 Fax: (+45) 44366111 Email: henrik.holst@i-data.com WEB: www.i-data.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Sep 10 16:45:11 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id QAA05190 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA19718; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:42:35 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:42:35 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA19710; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:42:15 -0400 Message-ID: <918C79AB552BD211A2BD00805F15CE8512C7C0@x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com> From: "Manros, Carl-Uno B" To: ipp@@pwg.org Subject: IPP> SEC - Security parameters for IPP scheme Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:41:15 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Below follows a text proposal from John Wenn and Daniel Manchala which captures the discussions from the IETF42 in Chicago. I have asked Bob Herriot to include the text in our next draft of the IPP Scheme document. If you have comments at this stage, please send them to the DL which now seems to be working again. Carl-Uno -- Daniel Manchala Xerox Corporation John Wenn Xerox Corporation September 4, 1998 Expires April 4, 1999 Internet Printing Protocol Scheme/0.9: Security Status of this memo This document is an Internet-Draft. Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet-Drafts. Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference material or to cite them other than as "work in progress." To learn the current status of any Internet-Draft, please check the "1id-abstracts.txt" listing contained in the Internet-Drafts Shadow Directories on ftp.is.co.za (Africa), nic.nordu.net (Europe), munnari.oz.au (Pacific Rim), ds.internic.net (US East Coast), or ftp.isi.edu (US West Coast). Abstract This document is one of a set of documents which together describe all aspects of a new Internet Printing Protocol (IPP). IPP is an application level protocol that can be used for distributed printing on the Internet. The full set of IPP documents includes: Internet Printing Protocol/1.0: Design Goals Internet Printing Protocol/1.0: Rational for Structure and Model Internet Printing Protocol/1.0: Requirements Internet Printing Protocol/1.0: Model and Semantics Internet Printing Protocol/1.0: Encoding and Transport This document deals with the security considerations for IPP. 1.0 Introduction It is required that the Internet Printing Protocol be able to operate within a secure environment. Wherever possible, IPP will make use of existing security protocols and services. IPP will not invent new security features when the requirements described in this document can be met by existing protocols and services. Examples of such services include Secure Sockets (SSL) [SSL3], Digest Access Authentication in HTTP, and the Content MD-5 Header Field in MIME. Although this document talks about SSL3, SSL3 is not a standard. IPP [IPP-PRO, IPP-MOD, IPP-REQ] makes use of the "ipp:" URL scheme with HTTP 1.1 as a transport protocol, in which URL path names and MIME types are used to encode IPP from the HTTP protocol data stream. Security attributes like the mechanism used (TLS[TLS], SSL, DAA, etc) are specified as parameters as part of the ipp URL. 2.0 IPP Scheme Syntax and Security Parameters The syntax for the IPP scheme is identical to the existing "http" scheme except for the scheme name, security attributes and different default port. This syntax could also be used for later versions of HTTP [HTTP] protocol that could specify the security attributes as part of the http:// URL. IPP syntax: ipp://host[:port]/ [";" parameters] parameters := "AUTH=" secure-protocol *["," secure-protocol] secure-protocol := "TLS" | "SSL3" | "DAA" In the future other protocols like IPV6 could also be used as the secure protocol. Multiple security protocols can be listed, but not all combinations make sense (e.g "AUTH=TLS,SSL3"). While other combinations can be commonly used (e.g. "AUTH=TLS,DAA"). The order of the protocols are irrelevant. The IPP client must be prepared to accept the appropriate response for any of the security protocols listed. An IPP client should not make a request for a security protocol it can not handle. The client and the server should be configurable for security protocol specific paramters (e.g. algorithms, key length, etc.) 3.0 Translation of IPP Scheme into HTTP Scheme Translation of the ipp scheme into http depends upon whether proxy servers, tunnels or gateways are used. Parameters are translated into header fields in the HTTP protocol. Section 4.5 of RFC 2068 describes the general header fields used. Associated with this IPP scheme is an IANA-assigned TCP port number, 631, which is the default port number used by clients to contact IPP servers that are represented by IPP URLs. If another port number is explitly specified, that port will be used by the client. The IPP scheme implies all of the same protocol semantics as that of the HTTP [HTTP] scheme, except that, by default, the port number used by clients to connect to the server is port 631. The semantics for clients configured for proxy access is different as described below. The implementation impact of using the new scheme on the existing specifications is mainly in the HTTP headers area. The IPP scheme URI is explicitly stored in the application/ipp MIME object. 3.1 Protocol specific considerations TLS security method in IPP follows the standard of negotiating TLS over the same port [TLS-HTTP]. This involves sending a HTTP header "Upgrade: TLS/1.0" with the original request. The server is not required to upgrade to TLS, but if it accepts a TLS upgrade it will respond with status "101 Switching Protocols" at which point the TLS handshaking begins. After the TLS connection is established, the orginal operation is completed. A server that requires a TLS connection will respond with a status "418: Upgrade Required" when contacted without a TLS connection. Since communications are not protected until the TLS connection is established, an IPP client may want to use an innocuous method (e.g. Get-Printer-Attributes, Validate-Job) to establish a secure connection before sending any data. - Note, since the [TLS-HTTP] document is still incomplete, this document may copy the relevent text of the prelimary draft to keep this draft from being held up in the standards process. SSL3 security method in IPP follows the existing practice of a separate security port with a https method [HTTPS]. DAA security method in IPP is used as specified in the standard [DAA]. The URI parameter is the URI generated on the request line, in accordance with the rules specified below. When DAA is used with SSL3 or TLS, the server should first establish secure communications (SSL3 or TLS) before doing client authentication (DAA). The IPP client has certain security expectations, as encoded in the security parameters of the IPP URI. If the server fails to meet these expectations (e.g. not upgrading to TLS), the client may terminate the connection. 3.2 HTTP Header Usage When an IPP client obtains an IPP URL, the interpretation (translation) of this URL by the client can take one of two forms, depending upon whether the client is configured to use an HTTP 1.1 proxy server. 3.2.1 IPP Client Configured with no proxy server When an IPP client (no proxy configured) obtains an "ipp:" URL such as "ipp://myhost.com/myprinter/myqueue;AUTH=TLS", it MUST open an TCP connection to port 631 on myhost.com, with the following example headers: POST /myprinter/myqueue HTTP/1.1 Host: myhost.com:631 Upgrade: TLS/1.0 Content-type: application/ipp Transfer-Encoding: chunked ... In the above example, the client indicates that it wants to communicate using the TLS protocol using RSA for encryption and 40 bit export variety key, no signature and a message digest using MD5 one-way hash function. 3.2.2 IPP Client Configured for Proxy Service When an IPP client that uses a proxy named "myproxy.com" obtains the URL "ipp://myhost.com/myprinter/myqueue;AUTH=TLS", it MUST open a TCP connection to myproxy.com with the following example headers: POST http://myhost.com:631/myprinter/myqueue HTTP/1.1 Host: myhost.com:631 Upgrade: TLS/1.0 Content-type: application/ipp Transfer-Encoding: chunked ... 3.3 SERVER GENERATED URIs: At the server, a job URI is generated in response to a client's request. This URI will use the IPP method with IPP security parameters. The client will then use this URI for their specific needs. The security protocol must match the security protocol used by the client request that created the job URI. The server should also store the security used in creating a job URI and enforce that level of security on subsequent operations on that job URI. 4.0 References [DAA] J, Franks, P. Hallam-Baker, J. Hostetler, P. Leach, A. Luotonen, E. Sink, and L. Stewart, An Extension to HTTP: Digest Access Authentication, RFC 2069, January 1997 [HTTPS] E. Rescorla, "HTTP Over TLS", draft-ietf-tls-https-01.txt [IPP-MOD] Isaacson, S., deBry, R., Hastings, T., Herriot, R., Powell, P. "Internet Printing Protocol/1.0: Model and Semantics" draft-ietf-ipp-mod-10.txt, June, 1998. [IPP-PRO] Herriot, R., Butler, S., Moore, P., Tuner, R., "Internet Printing Protocol/1.0: Encoding and Transport", draft-ietf-ipp-pro-06.txt, June, 1998. [IPP-REQ] Wright, D., "Design Goals for an Internet Printing Protocol", draft-ietf-ipp-req-02.txt, June, 1998. [SSL3] A. Frier, P. Karlton, and P. Kocher, "The SSL 3.0 Protocol", Netscape Communications Corp., Nov 18, 1996. [TLS] Dirks, T., and Allan, C., "The TLS Protocol", draft-ietf-tls-protocol-05.txt [TLS-HTTP] R. Khare, "Upgrading to TLS within HTTP", draft in progress 5.0 Author's Address Daniel Manchala Xerox Corporation 701 Aviation Blvd. El Segundo, CA 90245 John Wenn Xerox Corporation 701 Aviation Blvd. El Segundo, CA 90245 10.0 Other Contributors Carl-Uno Manros --- Carl-Uno Manros Principal Engineer - Advanced Printing Standards - Xerox Corporation 701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231 Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514 Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Fri Sep 11 05:47:51 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id FAA17048 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id FAA20261; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:45:21 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:45:21 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id FAA20253; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:45:02 -0400 From: henrik.holst@i-data.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: I-DATA To: ipp@@pwg.org Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:47:51 +0100 Subject: IPP> Bake off MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Hi I would like to know, what time do we expect to stop friday the 25th september at bake-off, cause I am going to make reservation for my flight back. Regards Henrik Holst ___________________________________________________________ Henrik Holst Software engineer - developing embedded Printservers i-data International Vadstrupvej 35-43, 2880 Bagsvaerd, Denmark Voice: (+45) 44366271 Fax: (+45) 44366111 Email: henrik.holst@i-data.com WEB: www.i-data.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Fri Sep 11 05:48:30 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id FAA17064 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id FAA20300; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:46:01 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:46:00 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id FAA20292; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:45:45 -0400 From: henrik.holst@i-data.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: I-DATA To: ipp@@pwg.org Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:48:45 +0100 Subject: IPP> Model document questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org I've got following questions when I read and implement the model document. 1. In section 4.1.11 the the words say that "The 'boolean' attribute syntax is similar to an enum with only two values: 'true' and 'false'. " And in section 4.1.4 the words says "The 'enum' attribute syntax is an enumerated integer value that is in the range from 1 to 2**31 - 1 (MAX)." Does this mean, that a boolean attribute got a 32 bit size value? In the protocol document, it says that a boolean is a byte size! 2. In section 3.2.6.1 'Get-Jobs Request' I wondered, if the attribute 'my-jobs' is present and set to TRUE, MUST the 'requesting-user-name' attribute be there to, and if it's not present what should the IPP printer do? Regards Henrik Holst ___________________________________________________________ Henrik Holst Software engineer - developing embedded Printservers i-data International Vadstrupvej 35-43, 2880 Bagsvaerd, Denmark Voice: (+45) 44366271 Fax: (+45) 44366111 Email: henrik.holst@i-data.com WEB: www.i-data.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Sep 14 14:25:10 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id OAA28699 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:24:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA23485; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:07 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:07 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA23477; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:21:46 -0400 From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809141824.AA08366@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:23:39 -0400 Subject: IPP> Test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Test Don From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Mon Sep 14 14:25:57 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id OAA28737 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA23532; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:23:26 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:48 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA23506; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:46 -0400 From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809141825.AA08461@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: pwg-announce@@pwg.org Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:24:18 -0400 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pwg-announce@@pwg.org Test Don From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Sep 14 15:16:41 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id PAA29854 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA24552; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:13:32 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:13:32 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA24544; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:13:16 -0400 From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809141915.AA12999@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:15:06 -0400 Subject: IPP> Testing the IPP list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Is this working again? Don From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Mon Sep 14 15:30:57 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id PAA00186 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA24848; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:28:12 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:48 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA24712; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:30 -0400 From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809141927.AA13984@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: pwg-announce@@pwg.org Cc: fin@@pwg.org, jmp@@pwg.org, p1394@@pwg.org, pmp@@pwg.org, pwg@@pwg.org, sdp@@pwg.org, sense@@pwg.org, udp@@pwg.org Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:47 -0400 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Mailing Lists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pwg-announce@@pwg.org The mailing lists are back up and running. Just to test everything out, I have sent this mail to ALL the mailing lists. If you get this mail on one list and not on another you think you should be on then I suggest you resubscribe by sending e-mail to: majordomo@pwg.org with the body of the note containing subscribe when is the name of the list you wish to subscribe to. You can include multiple subscriptions in the same note. Thanks for your patience during this transfer. ********************************************** * Don Wright don@lexmark.com * * Product Manager, Strategic Alliances * * Lexmark International * * 740 New Circle Rd * * Lexington, Ky 40550 * * 606-232-4808 (phone) 606-232-6740 (fax) * ********************************************** From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Sep 14 15:59:06 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id PAA00906 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA27241; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:56:37 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:56:37 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA27233; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:56:18 -0400 From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809141958.AA16717@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:58:08 -0400 Subject: IPP> Mailing Lists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org The mailing lists are back up and running. Just to test everything out, I have sent this mail to ALL the mailing lists. If you get this mail on one list and not on another you think you should be on then I suggest you resubscribe by sending e-mail to: majordomo@pwg.org with the body of the note containing subscribe when is the name of the list you wish to subscribe to. You can include multiple subscriptions in the same note. Thanks for your patience during this transfer. ********************************************** * Don Wright don@lexmark.com * * Product Manager, Strategic Alliances * * Lexmark International * * 740 New Circle Rd * * Lexington, Ky 40550 * * 606-232-4808 (phone) 606-232-6740 (fax) * ********************************************** From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Sep 14 17:25:29 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id RAA02678 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA27845; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:23:01 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:23:01 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA27837; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:22:44 -0400 Message-ID: <918C79AB552BD211A2BD00805F15CE8512C983@x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com> From: "Manros, Carl-Uno B" To: ipp@@pwg.org Subject: IPP> ADM - The crisis is over, we can go back to work Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:06 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org All, It now looks like our email, ftp, and web services are up and working again in the new location. Thanks to the staff at Lexmark, who I know has struggled quite a lot over the last few weeks to get everything set up. I will now start sending out IPP material that has accumulated for a while (in some cases resending stuff that I am uncertain about if you ever got). I will try to do that in the approximate order that they occurred. It might take me a couple of days to gradually empty my IPP out tray... Carl-Uno Carl-Uno Manros Principal Engineer - Advanced Printing Standards - Xerox Corporation 701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231 Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514 Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Sep 14 17:29:01 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id RAA02729 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA27896; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:26:34 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:26:34 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA27888; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:26:19 -0400 Message-ID: <918C79AB552BD211A2BD00805F15CE8512C987@x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com> From: "Manros, Carl-Uno B" To: ipp@@pwg.org Subject: IPP> ADM - Minutes from the IPP Meeting in Toronto on August 19-20, 19 98 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:25:13 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org All, Here are the pointers to the minutes from Toronto: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ipp-minutes-980819.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ipp-minutes-980819.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ipp-minutes-980819.txt Thanks to Lee Farrell for taking the notes, which have been delayed in distribution due to the hick-ups with the DL. Carl-Uno Carl-Uno Manros Principal Engineer - Advanced Printing Standards - Xerox Corporation 701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231 Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514 Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Sep 14 17:56:06 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id RAA03219 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA28007; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:53:38 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:53:37 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA27999; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:53:22 -0400 Message-ID: <918C79AB552BD211A2BD00805F15CE8512C99A@x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com> From: "Manros, Carl-Uno B" To: ipp@@pwg.org Subject: IPP> ADM - IPP Implementors' Guide Version 01 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:52:31 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Here are the pointers to the initial version of the PWG IPP Implementors' Guide. As the name indicates, this document tries to collect issues raised by implementors of IPP on the DL and come up with clarifications and/or fixes for later versions of the IPP drafts. This is the start-off version that was discussed in Toronto. A revised version should appear shortly, reflecting the resolutions from Toronto and adding new issues that have been raised after Toronto. Note that there is no TXT version for this document: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/PWG-Drafts/PWG-ImplGuide-01.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/PWG-Drafts/PWG-ImplGuide-01.pdf Carl-Uno -- Carl-Uno Manros Principal Engineer - Advanced Printing Standards - Xerox Corporation 701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231 Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514 Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com From Tue Sep 15 09:43:25 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id JAA20207 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA29480; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:40:57 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:40:57 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA29472; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:40:42 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809151343.AA12232@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:42:08 -0400 Subject: IPP> 9:41 am test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Please bare with me..... Roger From Tue Sep 15 09:49:40 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id JAA20415 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:49:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA29566; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:47:13 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:47:13 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA29558; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:46:58 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809151349.AA12827@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:48:20 -0400 Subject: IPP> Test 2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org 9:47am 9/15/98 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 10:03:18 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id KAA20828 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:03:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29696; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:00:52 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:00:51 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29687; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:00:36 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809151403.AA13788@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:55:26 -0400 Subject: IPP> Bare with me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org This is just a test...pleae ignore Roger From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 10:05:38 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id KAA20945 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29759; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:03:11 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:03:11 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29751; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:02:55 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809151405.AA14220@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:04:12 -0400 Subject: IPP> hang in there Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org This is another test....please ignore........ Roger From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 10:13:08 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id KAA21189 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29830; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:10:08 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:10:08 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29822; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:09:52 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809151412.AA14787@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:11:22 -0400 Subject: IPP> 10:10am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org another test.... Roger From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 10:26:04 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id KAA21758 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29938; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:23:14 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:23:14 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29929; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:23:00 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809151425.AA15814@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:24:36 -0400 Subject: IPP> Test 10:23 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Test...please ignore Roger From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 10:42:46 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id KAA22562 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA00050; 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Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:12:54 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com id AA06397 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ipp@pwg.org); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:14:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199809151814.AA06397@interlock2.lexmark.com> Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:14:50 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:13:54 -0400 Subject: IPP> test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org test Roger 2:13pm From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 14:24:26 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id OAA01749 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01108; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:21:31 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:21:31 -0400 Received: from lexmark.lexmark.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01097; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:21:04 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com id AA07284 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ipp@pwg.org); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:23:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199809151823.AA07284@interlock2.lexmark.com> Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:23:24 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:22:47 -0400 Subject: test 2:22 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline test Roger From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 14:30:18 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id OAA01855 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01234; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:27:24 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:27:23 -0400 Received: from fwns1.raleigh.ibm.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01226; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:26:58 -0400 Received: from rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com (rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.172.47]) by fwns1.raleigh.ibm.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/RTP-FW-1.2) with ESMTP id OAA33962; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:29:08 -0400 Received: from us.ibm.com (carlk.penn.boulder.ibm.com [9.99.176.105]) by rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/RTP-ral-1.1) with ESMTP id OAA10776; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:29:09 -0400 Message-ID: <35FEB1E4.BD44D6F9@us.ibm.com> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:28:52 -0600 From: Carl Kugler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipp@@pwg.org CC: don@lexmark.com Subject: IPP Mail Archive: Re: PWG> IPP> PRO> HTTP Connection: close Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1C0771C7ACB66B47E13CBE1B" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1C0771C7ACB66B47E13CBE1B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Trying to resend... http://www.pwg.org/hypermail/ipp/1225.html --------------1C0771C7ACB66B47E13CBE1B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="1225.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="1225.html" Content-Base: "http://www.pwg.org/hypermail/ipp/1225. html" IPP Mail Archive: Re: PWG> IPP> PRO> HTTP Connection: close

Re: PWG> IPP> PRO> HTTP Connection: close

Carl Kugler (kugler@us.ibm.com)
Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:53:39 -0400

I agree that the client and server must accept the Connection: close he=
ader.
I'm wondering how to satisfy the requirement that the client and server=
MUST
include this header for the last operation in a sequence of operations.=

Specifically, how do the client and server know, a priori, that the cur=
rent
operation is the last operation in a sequence (and therefore MUST inclu=
de the Co
nnection: close header)?

-Carl

rturner@sharplabs.com on 09/09/98 02:17:29 PM
Please respond to rturner@sharplabs.com
To: Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM@ibmus
cc: ipp@@pwg.org
Subject: Re: PWG> IPP> PRO> HTTP Connection: close

I tend to follow the saying "Be conservative in what you send, and libe=
ral in
what
you accept..."

Whether the text says MUST or not, IMHO we should be designing clients =
and
servers
to handle a "connection: close" header whenever it is received and stil=
l
function
normally, albeit with possibly less performance.

Since I am not working on a client, I cannot speak for what clients are=
or will
actually do, but I do think the client end should drive the connection =
status,
whevever possible.

Randy

Carl Kugler wrote:

> Section 4.1, General Headers, says
> General Header: Connection
> "close" only. Both client and server SHOULD keep a connection for the=

> duration of a sequence of operations. The client and server MUST incl=
ude this
> header for the last operation in such a sequence.
> Consider the (presumably typical) case of an interactive IPP client w=
ith a
user
> interface. How is the client to know when the current operation is t=
he last
of
> a sequence of user-initiated actions? Apparently, the only safe way =
to sat
isfy
> the MUST (an absolute requirement of the specification) would be to s=
end
> "close" after each user-initiated action. But this would violate the=
SHOULD,
> and is contrary to the recommendations of "HTTP Connection Management=
",
> http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/ietf/http/draft-ietf-http-connection-00.t=
xt
>
> Quoting:
> "Authoritative knowledge that it is appropriate to close a connecti=
on
> can only come from the user. Unfortunately, that source is not to =
be
> trusted. First, most users don't know what a connection is, and
> having them indicate it is okay to close it is meaningless. Second=
, a
> user that does know what a connection is probably inherently greed=
y.
> Such a user would never surrender the attention that a connection =
to
> a server implies.
> But this is talking about the client actually closing the connection,=
not
> sending a header to the server to signal that the connection will be =
closed
> after completion of the response. Obviously, the header can only be s=
ent as
> part of a request. Also, "HTTP Connection Management" says clients S=
HOULD
> close connections before servers when possible.
> How are you implementing this requirement?
>
> -Carl,

=

--------------1C0771C7ACB66B47E13CBE1B-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 14:39:15 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id OAA02046 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01387; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:36:43 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:36:43 -0400 Received: from alpha.xerox.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01379; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:36:12 -0400 Received: from norman.cp10.es.xerox.com ([13.240.124.12]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <52135(5)>; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:38:35 PDT Received: from x-crt-es-ms1.es.cp10.es.xerox.com (x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com [13.240.124.41]) by norman.cp10.es.xerox.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15863 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:35:10 -0700 Message-ID: <918C79AB552BD211A2BD00805F15CE8512CA59@x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com> From: "Manros, Carl-Uno B" To: ipp@@pwg.org Subject: ADM - Agenda for PWG IPP Phone Conference 980916 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:35:06 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Agenda for PWG IPP Phone Conference 980916 ========================================== I am sending this to both the normal IPP DL, but also to the test team, as we still have problems with the IPP DL. Sorry if you get this twice. We will hold our normal weekly conference on Wednesday. The phone conference this time will concentrate once again on the definitions for the new Operations and on any late news on the bake-off. The latest version of the Operations draft is at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909.txt There are also .pdf and .doc versions plus marked-up versions. The latest information about the Testing on September 23-25 can be found at: ftp://www.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_TES/IPP-Bake-Off-Info.pdf Here is the dial-in information: Time: September 16, 10:00 - 12:00 PDT (1:00 - 3:00 EDT) Phone: 1-800-857 5607 Passcode: cmanros Carl-Uno Carl-Uno Manros Principal Engineer - Advanced Printing Standards - Xerox Corporation 701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231 Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514 Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 14:59:43 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id OAA02369 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01569; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:57:13 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:57:13 -0400 Received: from alpha.xerox.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01561; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:56:54 -0400 Received: from norman.cp10.es.xerox.com ([13.240.124.12]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <52570(3)>; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:59:13 PDT Received: from garfield.cp10.es.xerox.com (garfield.cp10.es.xerox.com [13.240.124.50]) by norman.cp10.es.xerox.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17992; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csg-dellcp-42 (csg122-37 [13.240.122.37]) by garfield.cp10.es.xerox.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA00989; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980915115857.01263b90@garfield> X-Sender: hastings@garfield X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:58:57 PDT To: ipp@@pwg.org From: Tom Hastings Subject: OPS - I've posted the updated Set 1 IPP Ops spec for the bake-off Cc: cmanros@cp10.es.xerox.com, hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I sent the updated spec to the bake-off attendees last week, but could not copy to the ftp server until today. We'd like to discuss at tommorrow's (9/16/98) telecon if there are any remaining issues. The same files as sent last week as attachements are now available in: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/export/home/ftp/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1 -00-980909.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/export/home/ftp/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1 -00-980909.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/export/home/ftp/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1 -00-980909.txt ftp://ftp.pwg.org/export/home/ftp/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1 -00-980909-rev.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/export/home/ftp/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1 -00-980909-rev.pdf on the Lexmark FTP server. The files are: -rw-rw-r-- 1 pwg staff 80896 Sep 15 13:15 draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909.doc -rw-rw-r-- 1 pwg staff 35898 Sep 15 13:16 draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 pwg staff 36053 Sep 15 13:17 draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 pwg staff 99840 Sep 15 13:18 draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909-rev.doc -rw-rw-r-- 1 pwg staff 52045 Sep 15 13:18 draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909-rev.pdf Here is the mail I sent last week to the bake-off attendees which describes the changes: >X-Sender: hastings@garfield >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) >Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:58:24 -0700 >To: "Allen Waugerman (E-mail)" , > "Atsushi Uchino (E-mail)" , > "Babak Jahromi (E-mail)" , > "Bill Wagner (E-mail)" , > "Bis Guha (E-mail)" , > "Bob Herriot (E-mail)" , > "Brian R Glass (E-mail)" , > "Carl Kugler (E-mail)" , > "Carl-Uno Manros (E-mail)" , > "Daniel Fung (E-mail)" , > "Dave Stewart (E-mail)" , > "David Kuntz (E-mail)" , > "Don Wright (E-mail)" , > "Harry Lewis (E-mail)" , > "Henrik Holst (E-mail)" , > "Hugo Parra (E-mail)" , > "Jeff Hancock (E-mail)" , > "Kris Schoff (E-mail)" , > "Maulik Desai (E-mail)" , > "Nick Webb (E-mail)" , > "Norimi Kawashima (E-mail)" , > "Ole Pedersen (E-mail)" , > "Patrick Powell (E-mail)" , > "Paul Kwan (E-mail)" , > "Paul Moore (E-mail)" , > "Peter Michalek (E-mail)" , > "Peter Zehler (E-mail)" , > "Phil DeBecker (E-mail)" , > "Rajesh Chawla (E-mail)" , > "Randy Turner (E-mail)" , > "Rick Yardumiun (E-mail)" , > "Shivan Albright (E-mail)" , > "Steve Thorne (E-mail)" , > "Swen Johnson (E-mail)" , > "Tetsuya Morita (E-mail)" , > "Tom Hastings (E-mail)" , > "Toshiya Nakazawa (E-mail)" , > "Xavier Riley (E-mail)" , > "Yuji Sasaki (E-mail)" >From: Tom Hastings >Subject: Updated IPP Set 1 operations spec (attached) > >I've updated the Set 1 operations (Hold-Job, Release-Job, Restart-Job, >Pause-Printer, Resume-Printer, and Purge-Jobs) as result of the August >20 Toronto meeting and the telecon, Wednesdayd, Sept 2 and 9. > >I've not been able to post them to the PWG server, so I've attached them >as agreed on the Sept 9 telecon and sent this message to the 9/3 bakeoff >mailing list. I'll also post them as soon as I can. > >Attached are the .doc file with revisions and the .pdf with revisions >and the .pdf without revisions and the .txt without revisions. > >This spec is the one that will be used during the bake off for testing >these new OPTIONAL operations. > >Please read and send any comments to the mailing list. We will also discuss >the spec at next Wednesday's telecon: 9/16, 10-12 PDT, 1(800)857-5607, >passcode: cmanros. > >The changes are: > >1. Changed the document from an IETF to a PWG DRAFT > >2. Removed the Reprocess-Job operation altogether. We need to analyze >the accounting problem starting with requirements, rather than adding >the Reprocess-Job operation now in the name of helping accounting >applications. > >3. I did not close up the opcode assignments, as agreed to on the telecon, >since Paul had already changed his code to agree with the previous version >(without implementing the Reprocess-Job operation). > >4. Clarified that the job operations return the "job-state" and, >OPTIONALLY, "job-state-reasons" attributes as Group 3 Job Attributes. > >5. Made the following changes to the Restart-Job operation: > >a. added the OPTIONAL "job-held-until" operation attribute, so that the job >can be restarted but put into the 'pending-held' state immediately. (Then we >can add a Modify-Job operation in the future to modify other Job Template >attributes before the client releases the job using Release-Job). > >b. Indicated that Restart-Job MAY be supported for jobs in the 'processing' >or 'processing-stopped' states. > >c. Added the 'job-restartable' value to the "job-state-reasons" attribute >to indicate when a job is restartable using the Restart-Job operation. > >6. Clarified the "job history" concept as an OPTIONAL sub-state of >'completed', >'aborted', or 'canceled' job states. If the "job history" concept is >supported, clients may query such jobs using the Get-Job-Attributes and >Get-Jobs operations. > >7. Add a 'restartable' value to the "job-state-reasons" job attribute which >is present in the job's job-state-reasons attribute when the client is >able to restart the job using the Restart-Job operation and is absent >when the job cannot be restarted. > >8. Added the picture to the Printer operations section, so that we can see >the source of print jobs to a device that do not come throuth the IPP >Printer object, so that we can talk about that other job source. > >9. Indicated for Pause-Printer and Purge-Jobs, whether it affects job >submitted from other sources than the IPP Printer object in question, >depends on implementation. > >10. Clarified that the Purge-Jobs operation deletes all jobs regardless of >state, including all jobs in the Printer object's "job-history". Indicated >that an operator can cancel all jobs and put them into the "job history", >by using the Cancel-Job operation on each job. Presumably a client that >shows the active jobs is likely to allow the operator to select some or >all of the jobs and hit the cancel button (cancelling the selected jobs). > >Tom From Tue Sep 15 16:28:18 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id QAA04193 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA02478; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:25:46 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:25:46 -0400 Received: from lexmark.lexmark.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA02466; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:25:26 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com id AA17355 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ipp@pwg.org); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:27:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199809152027.AA17355@interlock2.lexmark.com> Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:27:47 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:27:10 -0400 Subject: Testing ipp list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Test...please ignore.... Thanks, Roger From Tue Sep 15 16:29:52 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id QAA04223 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA02593; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:27:11 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:27:11 -0400 Received: from lexmark.lexmark.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA02581; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:26:54 -0400 From: don@lexmark.com Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com id AA17464 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ipp@pwg.org); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:29:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199809152029.AA17464@interlock2.lexmark.com> Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:29:20 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:28:47 -0400 Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline And the correct URLs are.... ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909.txt ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909-rev.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909-rev.pdf Don Tom Hastings on 09/15/98 02:58:57 PM To: ipp%@pwg.org@interlock.lexmark.com cc: cmanros%cp10.es.xerox.com@interlock.lexmark.com, hastings%cp10.es.xerox.com@interlock.lexmark.com (bcc: Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark) bcc: Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark Subject: OPS - I've posted the updated Set 1 IPP Ops spec for the bake-off I sent the updated spec to the bake-off attendees last week, but could not copy to the ftp server until today. We'd like to discuss at tommorrow's (9/16/98) telecon if there are any remaining issues. The same files as sent last week as attachements are now available in: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/export/home/ftp/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1 -00-980909.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/export/home/ftp/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1 -00-980909.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/export/home/ftp/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1 -00-980909.txt ftp://ftp.pwg.org/export/home/ftp/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1 -00-980909-rev.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/export/home/ftp/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1 -00-980909-rev.pdf on the Lexmark FTP server. The files are: -rw-rw-r-- 1 pwg staff 80896 Sep 15 13:15 draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909.doc -rw-rw-r-- 1 pwg staff 35898 Sep 15 13:16 draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 pwg staff 36053 Sep 15 13:17 draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 pwg staff 99840 Sep 15 13:18 draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909-rev.doc -rw-rw-r-- 1 pwg staff 52045 Sep 15 13:18 draft-pwg-ipp-ops-set1-00-980909-rev.pdf Here is the mail I sent last week to the bake-off attendees which describes the changes: >X-Sender: hastings@garfield >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) >Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:58:24 -0700 >To: "Allen Waugerman (E-mail)" , > "Atsushi Uchino (E-mail)" , > "Babak Jahromi (E-mail)" , > "Bill Wagner (E-mail)" , > "Bis Guha (E-mail)" , > "Bob Herriot (E-mail)" , > "Brian R Glass (E-mail)" , > "Carl Kugler (E-mail)" , > "Carl-Uno Manros (E-mail)" , > "Daniel Fung (E-mail)" , > "Dave Stewart (E-mail)" , > "David Kuntz (E-mail)" , > "Don Wright (E-mail)" , > "Harry Lewis (E-mail)" , > "Henrik Holst (E-mail)" , > "Hugo Parra (E-mail)" , > "Jeff Hancock (E-mail)" , > "Kris Schoff (E-mail)" , > "Maulik Desai (E-mail)" , > "Nick Webb (E-mail)" , > "Norimi Kawashima (E-mail)" , > "Ole Pedersen (E-mail)" , > "Patrick Powell (E-mail)" , > "Paul Kwan (E-mail)" , > "Paul Moore (E-mail)" , > "Peter Michalek (E-mail)" , > "Peter Zehler (E-mail)" , > "Phil DeBecker (E-mail)" , > "Rajesh Chawla (E-mail)" , > "Randy Turner (E-mail)" , > "Rick Yardumiun (E-mail)" , > "Shivan Albright (E-mail)" , > "Steve Thorne (E-mail)" , > "Swen Johnson (E-mail)" , > "Tetsuya Morita (E-mail)" , > "Tom Hastings (E-mail)" , > "Toshiya Nakazawa (E-mail)" , > "Xavier Riley (E-mail)" , > "Yuji Sasaki (E-mail)" >From: Tom Hastings >Subject: Updated IPP Set 1 operations spec (attached) > >I've updated the Set 1 operations (Hold-Job, Release-Job, Restart-Job, >Pause-Printer, Resume-Printer, and Purge-Jobs) as result of the August >20 Toronto meeting and the telecon, Wednesdayd, Sept 2 and 9. > >I've not been able to post them to the PWG server, so I've attached them >as agreed on the Sept 9 telecon and sent this message to the 9/3 bakeoff >mailing list. I'll also post them as soon as I can. > >Attached are the .doc file with revisions and the .pdf with revisions >and the .pdf without revisions and the .txt without revisions. > >This spec is the one that will be used during the bake off for testing >these new OPTIONAL operations. > >Please read and send any comments to the mailing list. We will also discuss >the spec at next Wednesday's telecon: 9/16, 10-12 PDT, 1(800)857-5607, >passcode: cmanros. > >The changes are: > >1. Changed the document from an IETF to a PWG DRAFT > >2. Removed the Reprocess-Job operation altogether. We need to analyze >the accounting problem starting with requirements, rather than adding >the Reprocess-Job operation now in the name of helping accounting >applications. > >3. I did not close up the opcode assignments, as agreed to on the telecon, >since Paul had already changed his code to agree with the previous version >(without implementing the Reprocess-Job operation). > >4. Clarified that the job operations return the "job-state" and, >OPTIONALLY, "job-state-reasons" attributes as Group 3 Job Attributes. > >5. Made the following changes to the Restart-Job operation: > >a. added the OPTIONAL "job-held-until" operation attribute, so that the job >can be restarted but put into the 'pending-held' state immediately. (Then we >can add a Modify-Job operation in the future to modify other Job Template >attributes before the client releases the job using Release-Job). > >b. Indicated that Restart-Job MAY be supported for jobs in the 'processing' >or 'processing-stopped' states. > >c. Added the 'job-restartable' value to the "job-state-reasons" attribute >to indicate when a job is restartable using the Restart-Job operation. > >6. Clarified the "job history" concept as an OPTIONAL sub-state of >'completed', >'aborted', or 'canceled' job states. If the "job history" concept is >supported, clients may query such jobs using the Get-Job-Attributes and >Get-Jobs operations. > >7. Add a 'restartable' value to the "job-state-reasons" job attribute which >is present in the job's job-state-reasons attribute when the client is >able to restart the job using the Restart-Job operation and is absent >when the job cannot be restarted. > >8. Added the picture to the Printer operations section, so that we can see >the source of print jobs to a device that do not come throuth the IPP >Printer object, so that we can talk about that other job source. > >9. Indicated for Pause-Printer and Purge-Jobs, whether it affects job >submitted from other sources than the IPP Printer object in question, >depends on implementation. > >10. Clarified that the Purge-Jobs operation deletes all jobs regardless of >state, including all jobs in the Printer object's "job-history". Indicated >that an operator can cancel all jobs and put them into the "job history", >by using the Cancel-Job operation on each job. Presumably a client that >shows the active jobs is likely to allow the operator to select some or >all of the jobs and hit the cancel button (cancelling the selected jobs). > >Tom From Tue Sep 15 16:38:49 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id QAA04485 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA02774; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:36:18 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:36:18 -0400 Received: from alpha.xerox.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA02756; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:35:28 -0400 Received: from norman.cp10.es.xerox.com ([13.240.124.12]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <55786(2)>; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:35:47 PDT Received: from x-crt-es-ms1.es.cp10.es.xerox.com (x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com [13.240.124.41]) by norman.cp10.es.xerox.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06674 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:05:13 -0700 Message-ID: <918C79AB552BD211A2BD00805F15CE8512CA30@x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com> From: "Manros, Carl-Uno B" To: ipp@@pwg.org Subject: FAX - Comparisons between IPP and IFax Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:05:11 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Don Bergman presented a document in Toronto on how to gateway between IPP and IFax. That document, slightly revised to reflect the discussion in Toronto, is now stored at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_IPP-IFax/980820-ipp-ifax.txt ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_IPP-IFax/980820-ipp-ifax.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_IPP-IFax/980820-ipp-ifax.doc Carl-Uno Carl-Uno Manros Principal Engineer - Advanced Printing Standards - Xerox Corporation 701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231 Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514 Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com From Tue Sep 15 17:04:31 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id RAA04854 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA03100; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:02:00 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:02:00 -0400 Received: from alpha.xerox.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA03092; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:01:38 -0400 Received: from norman.cp10.es.xerox.com ([13.240.124.12]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <56847(1)>; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:02:56 PDT Received: from x-crt-es-ms1.es.cp10.es.xerox.com (x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com [13.240.124.41]) by norman.cp10.es.xerox.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02864; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:59:03 -0700 Message-ID: <918C79AB552BD211A2BD00805F15CE8512CA86@x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com> From: "Manros, Carl-Uno B" To: ipp@@pwg.org Cc: sisaacson@novell.com, manros@cp10.es.xerox.com Subject: ADM - Draft Minutes from IETF42 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:59:03 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here are the draft minutes from the IETF42 IPP WG Meeting. If I do not hear any comments by September 18, this will be sent as the official minutes to the IETF secretariat. Carl-Uno -- The meeting was attended by 29 people. Notes were taken by Scott Isaacson. Agenda: - Short history of the project (presentation by Carl-Uno Manros) - Information about upcoming test event for IPP (presentation by Carl-Uno Manros) - Security parameters in the ipp:// URL scheme (presentation and discussion led by John Wenn) - Similarities and differences between IPP and IFax (discussion led by Larry Masinter) A short history and overview of the project was presented by the chair. (see slides for further details) 11/97 - IPP drafts refined, 5 major documents 12/97 - IPP WG Last Call 1/98 - Edits to WG drafts 2/98 - Drafts submitted to IESG 5/98 - Comments from Area Director 8/98 - Still waiting for final feedback from IESG The chair informed about an upcoming IPP test event on September 23-25. So far, 16 organizations have signed up for this inter-operability event. The testing will be based on the current IPP drafts from June 30, 1998. See slides for further details. The most important agenda point was a presentation by John Wenn on how to build in a security parameter in the ipp:// scheme and mapping of that to the HTTP Upgrade parameter. With the subsequent documentation of this solution, which has been validated with the TLS and HTTP groups, it is believed that all known issues raised by the IESG have been addressed by the IPP WG. It was pointed out during the discussion of the solution that we need multiple values for security mechanisms used, as e.g. TLS and Digest Authentication may both be used together. This will be fixed in the next draft. There were no comments on the current draft . Also see slides for further details. Larry Masinter led a discussion on interoperability between IPP and IFax. There seemed to be sufficient interest in this subject to justify writing an informational document that gives advice to implementors of IPP/IFax gateways or implementation of both protocols in the same system or device. One person offered to become the editor of such a document. It is not planned to introduce this subject as an official part of either the IPP or IFax WGs charter, but it is expected to be developed in collaboration between these two groups. See slides for further details. Meeting adjourned early. --- Carl-Uno Manros Chair of IETF WG on IPP Carl-Uno Manros Principal Engineer - Advanced Printing Standards - Xerox Corporation 701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231 Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514 Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com From Tue Sep 15 17:40:37 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id RAA05476 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA04460; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:38:08 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:38:08 -0400 Received: from alpha.xerox.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA04452; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:37:51 -0400 Received: from norman.cp10.es.xerox.com ([13.240.124.12]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <54763(3)>; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:04:54 PDT Received: from x-crt-es-ms1.es.cp10.es.xerox.com (x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com [13.240.124.41]) by norman.cp10.es.xerox.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02997; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:01:21 -0700 Message-ID: <918C79AB552BD211A2BD00805F15CE8512CA88@x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com> From: "Manros, Carl-Uno B" To: ipp@@pwg.org Cc: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com Subject: ADM - IPP Presentations from IETF42 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:01:20 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" All, I have stored the presentation material that was shown in the IPP meeting of the IETF42 on the server. There are four short presentations, available in .ppt and .pdf format in folder: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/IETF-Presentations/ Carl-Uno Carl-Uno Manros Principal Engineer - Advanced Printing Standards - Xerox Corporation 701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231 Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514 Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com From Tue Sep 15 17:53:26 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id RAA05654 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:53:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA04600; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:50:59 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:50:59 -0400 Received: from avalon.dpc.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA04592; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:50:41 -0400 Received: by avalon.dpc.com; id OAA10917; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:47:22 -0700 Received: from newmai.dpc.com(10.50.0.101) by avalon.dpc.com via smap (4.0a) id xma010906; Tue, 15 Sep 98 14:46:29 -0700 Received: from rbergm.dpc.com (rbergm.dpc.com [10.30.0.153]) by newmai.dpc.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA26454; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:31:41 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: Ron Bergman To: Tom Hastings cc: ipp@@pwg.org Subject: Re: OPS - I've posted the updated Set 1 IPP Ops spec for the bake-off In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980915143058.0124b190@garfield> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: rbergma@newmai.dpc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Tom, I didn't see an email notice on the telecon. What is the phone number? I am guessing that the time is 10AM PDT and the passcode is CMANROS. (I am also testing to see if I am still on the IPP server.) Ron Bergman Dataproducts Corp. From Tue Sep 15 20:22:04 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id UAA06856 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA05001; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:19:33 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:19:33 -0400 Received: from alpha.xerox.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA04992; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:19:16 -0400 Received: from norman.cp10.es.xerox.com ([13.240.124.12]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <55454(4)>; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:21:33 PDT Received: from x-crt-es-ms1.es.cp10.es.xerox.com (x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com [13.240.124.41]) by norman.cp10.es.xerox.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12820; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:18:37 -0700 Message-ID: <918C79AB552BD211A2BD00805F15CE8512CADC@x-crt-es-ms1.cp10.es.xerox.com> From: "Manros, Carl-Uno B" To: ipp@@pwg.org Cc: "Manros, Carl-Uno" Subject: FW: [HTTP] Request for Advancement http-v11-spec-rev-05 & http-au thentication-03 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:18:37 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" FYI, Carl-Uno -----Original Message----- From: Larry Masinter [mailto:masinter@parc.xerox.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 5:15 PM To: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com Cc: iesg-secretary@ietf.org; HTTP Working Group Subject: [HTTP] Request for Advancement http-v11-spec-rev-05 & http-authentication-03 The HTTP working group has reached rough consensus within the working group to advance the two documents: draft-ietf-http-v11-spec-rev-05.txt, ps 9/15/1998 draft-ietf-http-authentication-03.txt 9/14/1998 to Draft Standards status. This message is the official request for advancement by the IESG. Larry Masinter, as HTTP working group chair. -- http://www.parc.xerox.com/masinter From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 20:41:56 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id UAA07073 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA05351; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:39:27 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:39:27 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA05342; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:39:11 -0400 Received: from lexmark.lexmark.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA05338; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:39:08 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com id AA00190 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ipp@pwg.org); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:41:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199809160041.AA00190@interlock2.lexmark.com> Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:41:34 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:40:57 -0400 Subject: IPP> test 8:32 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Test Roger From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 21:00:19 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id VAA07187 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 21:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA05529; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:57:22 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:57:22 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA05521; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:57:07 -0400 Received: from lexmark.lexmark.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA05516; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:55:14 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com id AA00848 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ipp@pwg.org); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:57:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199809160057.AA00848@interlock2.lexmark.com> Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:57:34 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:56:51 -0400 Subject: IPP> testing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org test roger From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 15 22:44:17 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id WAA08760 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA05943; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:41:50 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:41:49 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA05934; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:41:34 -0400 Received: from lexmark.lexmark.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA05930; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:41:32 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com id AA04657 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ipp@pwg.org); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:43:59 -0400 Message-Id: <199809160243.AA04657@interlock2.lexmark.com> Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:43:59 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:43:25 -0400 Subject: IPP> 10:35 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@@pwg.org Test Roger From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 16 10:24:17 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id KAA21274 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA06626; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:21:16 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:21:16 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA06616; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:20:54 -0400 Received: from lexmark.lexmark.com by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA06610; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:20:40 -0400 From: egglestn@lexmark.com Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com id AA16195 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ipp@pwg.org); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:23:00 -0400 Message-Id: <199809161423.AA16195@interlock2.lexmark.com> Received: by interlock2.lexmark.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:23:00 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@@pwg.org Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:22:25 -0400 Subject: IPP> test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org This is a test...please ignore Thanks, Roger From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 16 10:57:18 1998 Received: from pwg.org ([192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id KAA21982 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:57:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA06916; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:53:56 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:53:20 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA06898; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:53:18 -0400 From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199809161455.AA19332@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: pwg-announce@@pwg.org Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:55:11 -0400 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> November Meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org With all the bouncing around of the mailing list, I thought this one should be reposted to make sure everyone has seen it..... ********************************************** * Don Wright don@lexmark.com * * Product Manager, Strategic Alliances * * Lexmark International * * 740 New Circle Rd * * Lexington, Ky 40550 * * 606-232-4808 (phone) 606-232-6740 (fax) * ********************************************** ---------------------- Forwarded by Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark on 09/16/98 10:56 AM --------------------------- ALAN_BERKEMA%HP-Roseville-om2.om.hp.com@interlock.lexmark.com on 09/04/98 07:38:44 PM To: pwg-announce%@pwg.org@interlock.lexmark.com cc: (bcc: Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark) bcc: Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> November Meeting Hello PWG Members, I have started planning our Meetings in November. Unfortunately the meeting space in Phoenix was limited and the one Hotel that did have rooms, was not willing to accommodate our billing process. The good news is that I was able to secure space at the Tucson Marriott University Park in Tucson Arizona (still in the southwest near Phoenix and closer to Nogales). http://www.marriott.com/marriott/TUSUP/ Also it seems that the southwest is popular in November, I think a lot of folks like to get away from the Snow, so we would do well to make reservations early. I should have more details in the next week or two. Feel free to ping now if you want, with the usual information Name: Meetings you will attend: If staying at the Marriott: Arrival & Departure Date Regards, Alan alan_berkema@hp.com 916 785-5605