From root@core3.amsl.com Tue Sep 1 10:45:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id E6BC828C8D4; Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:45:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090901174501.E6BC828C8D4@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ippm-multimetrics-12.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:45:02 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) for spatial and multicast Author(s) : E. Stephan, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-multimetrics-12.txt Pages : 52 Date : 2009-09-01 The IETF has standardized IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) for measuring end-to-end performance between two points. This memo defines two new categories of metrics that extend the coverage to multiple measurement points. It defines spatial metrics for measuring the performance of segments of a source to destination path, and metrics for measuring the performance between a source and many destinations in multiparty communications (e.g., a multicast tree). A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-multimetrics-12.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ippm-multimetrics-12.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2009-09-01103919.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From wwwrun@core3.amsl.com Wed Sep 2 07:38:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id 9D8B23A6A44; Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:38:20 -0700 (PDT) X-idtracker: yes From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Message-Id: <20090902143820.9D8B23A6A44@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Internet Architecture Board , ippm chair , ippm mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [ippm] Protocol Action: 'IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) for spatial and multicast' to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:38:20 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) for spatial and multicast ' as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Lars Eggert and Magnus Westerlund. A URL of this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-multimetrics-12.txt Technical Summary The IETF has standardized IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) for measuring end-to-end performance between two points. This memo defines two new categories of metrics that extend the coverage to multiple measurement points. It defines spatial metrics for measuring the performance of segments of a source to destination path, and metrics for measuring the performance between a source and many destinations in multiparty communications (e.g., a multicast tree). Working Group Summary The working group input has improved this document through its revisions, and the document itself has been uncontroversial. Document Quality No known implementations claim to implement this metric. However, other implementers in the group have read the draft. Personnel The document shepherd is Matt Zekauskas (matt@internet2.edu). Lars Eggert (lars.eggert@nokia.com) reviewed it for the IESG. From sunwq@MIT.EDU Mon Sep 7 23:26:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6433A6926; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 23:26:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.443 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.443 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.155, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lvEzfqUB7V7u; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 23:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (BISCAYNE-ONE-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B633A68B2; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 23:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id n886QoL8010444; Tue, 8 Sep 2009 02:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from APC ([202.120.39.240]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as sunwq@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id n886Qhhx007043 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 8 Sep 2009 02:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Weiqiang Sun" To: Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 14:26:42 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 Cc: Lou Berger , Henk Uijterwaal , Rschrage , "DEBORAH A, ATTLABS BRUNGARD" , IPPM WG IETF Subject: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-08 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:26:26 -0000 All, A new version of the DPPM draft has been uploaded. In this revision there is one technical change in 14.3. This change is made based on the discussion between Reinhard Schrage and us. In the original text, we used the percentile definition in RFC 2681. Reinhard suggested the current definition, which is detailed in RFC 2330. We believe that the current definition is more clear and easy to understand. The change is summarized below. We would again hand this draft back to Lou and Deborah for further processing. The authors believe that a second WGLC might not be necessary, since the two definitions yield similar results on large measurements. Original text: --------------------- 14.3. The percentile of Metric The percentile of Metric is defined as: given a metric and a percent X between 0% and 100%, the Xth percentile of all the dT values in the sample." In addition, the percentile is undefined if the sample is empty. Example: suppose we take a sample and the results are: Stream1 = < , , , , > Then the 50th percentile would be 110 msec, since 90 msec and 100 msec are smaller, and 110 and 500 msec are larger (undefined values are not counted in). --------------------- New text: --------------------- 14.3. The percentile of Metric The "empirical distribution function" (EDF) of a set of scalar measurements is a function F(x) which for any x gives the fractional proportion of the total measurements that were <= x. Given a percentage X, the X-th percentile of Metric means the smallest value of x for which F(x) >= X. Undefined values MUST NOT be counted in. See RFC2330 for further details. --------------------- Thanks and best regards, Weiqiang -------------------------------------------------- From: "IETF I-D Submission Tool" Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:03 PM To: Cc: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-08 > > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-08.txt has been > successfuly submitted by Weiqiang Sun and posted to the IETF repository. > > Filename: draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm > Revision: 08 > Title: Label Switched Path (LSP) Dynamic Provisioning Performance Metrics > in Generalized MPLS Networks > Creation_date: 2009-09-08 > WG ID: ccamp > Number_of_pages: 49 > > Abstract: > Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) is one of the most > promising candidate technologies for future data transmission > network. GMPLS has been developed to control and operate different > kinds of network elements, such as conventional routers, switches, > Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing (DWDM) systems, Add- Drop > Multiplexers (ADMs), photonic cross-connects (PXCs), optical cross- > connects (OXCs), etc. Dynamic provisioning ability of these > physically diverse devices differs from each other drastically. At > the same time, the need for dynamically provisioned connections is > increasing because optical networks are being deployed in metro > areas. As different applications have varied requirements in the > provisioning performance of optical networks, it is imperative to > define standardized metrics and procedures such that the performance > of networks and application needs can be mapped to each other. > > This document provides a series of performance metrics to evaluate > the dynamic LSP provisioning performance in GMPLS networks, > specifically the dynamic LSP setup/release performance. These > metrics can depict the features of GMPLS networks in LSP dynamic > provisioning. > > > > The IETF Secretariat. > > > From lberger@labn.net Tue Sep 8 13:50:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F58D3A6801 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:50:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.017 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.017 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uFn12QdYw-YU for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-121.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-121.bluehost.com [67.222.38.21]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F2113A69F0 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17847 invoked by uid 0); 8 Sep 2009 20:50:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Sep 2009 20:50:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=KNXkOuOqFwo6trmahY8pC1FNQOhFH3toT+Va+14EN5tVOXZVSVw96EDlkS2Z3bnCP2cTGEOtYpXy7XK6DWkm3rZY7TRBVBmMfuh8ih0FO9dd32QX8NU41Ci7XW+NNdCE; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ml7eV-0004PC-92; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:50:59 -0600 Message-ID: <4AA6C3BE.3010805@labn.net> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:51:10 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090408 Eudora/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Weiqiang Sun References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, Henk Uijterwaal , Rschrage , "DEBORAH A, ATTLABS BRUNGARD" , IPPM WG IETF Subject: Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-08 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:50:29 -0000 Weiqiang, Thank you for addressing the detailed comments. Given the number of differences from the previously last called version (05), I think it best to hold a second last call. I'll send the announcement in a separate message to just the ccamp WG. I think it would be helpful if you followed up the announcement with a summary of the changes from the previously last called rev. For convenience, here's the url to see the diff: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=--hwdiff&url1=draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-05.txt&url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-08.txt Lou On 9/8/2009 2:26 AM, Weiqiang Sun wrote: > All, > > A new version of the DPPM draft has been uploaded. > > In this revision there is one technical change in 14.3. This change is > made based on the discussion between Reinhard Schrage and us. In the > original text, we used the percentile definition in RFC 2681. Reinhard > suggested the current definition, which is detailed in RFC 2330. We > believe that the current definition is more clear and easy to > understand. The change is summarized below. > > We would again hand this draft back to Lou and Deborah for further > processing. The authors believe that a second WGLC might not be > necessary, since the two definitions yield similar results on large > measurements. > > Original text: > --------------------- > 14.3. The percentile of Metric > > The percentile of Metric is defined as: given a metric and a percent > X between 0% and 100%, the Xth percentile of all the dT values in the > sample." In addition, the percentile is undefined if the sample is > empty. > > Example: suppose we take a sample and the results are: Stream1 = < > , , , , 500 msec> > > > Then the 50th percentile would be 110 msec, since 90 msec and 100 > msec are smaller, and 110 and 500 msec are larger (undefined values > are not counted in). > > --------------------- > > New text: > --------------------- > 14.3. The percentile of Metric > > The "empirical distribution function" (EDF) of a set of scalar > measurements is a function F(x) which for any x gives the fractional > proportion of the total measurements that were <= x. > > Given a percentage X, the X-th percentile of Metric means the > smallest value of x for which F(x) >= X. Undefined values > MUST NOT be counted in. > > See RFC2330 for further details. > --------------------- > > Thanks and best regards, > Weiqiang > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "IETF I-D Submission Tool" > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:03 PM > To: > Cc: ; ; > ; ; ; > ; ; > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-08 > >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-08.txt has been >> successfuly submitted by Weiqiang Sun and posted to the IETF repository. >> >> Filename: draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm >> Revision: 08 >> Title: Label Switched Path (LSP) Dynamic Provisioning Performance >> Metrics in Generalized MPLS Networks >> Creation_date: 2009-09-08 >> WG ID: ccamp >> Number_of_pages: 49 >> >> Abstract: >> Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) is one of the most >> promising candidate technologies for future data transmission >> network. GMPLS has been developed to control and operate different >> kinds of network elements, such as conventional routers, switches, >> Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing (DWDM) systems, Add- Drop >> Multiplexers (ADMs), photonic cross-connects (PXCs), optical cross- >> connects (OXCs), etc. Dynamic provisioning ability of these >> physically diverse devices differs from each other drastically. At >> the same time, the need for dynamically provisioned connections is >> increasing because optical networks are being deployed in metro >> areas. As different applications have varied requirements in the >> provisioning performance of optical networks, it is imperative to >> define standardized metrics and procedures such that the performance >> of networks and application needs can be mapped to each other. >> >> This document provides a series of performance metrics to evaluate >> the dynamic LSP provisioning performance in GMPLS networks, >> specifically the dynamic LSP setup/release performance. These >> metrics can depict the features of GMPLS networks in LSP dynamic >> provisioning. >> >> >> >> The IETF Secretariat. >> >> >> > > > From henk@ripe.net Thu Sep 10 02:48:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6D228C0F0 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.922, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v1l6ViXnK+5J for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postgirl.ripe.net (postgirl.ripe.net [193.0.19.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8563C3A695E for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.ripe.net ([193.0.1.203]) by postgirl.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MlgGL-0000iK-EW for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:48:27 +0200 Received: from geir-3.local (henk.vpn.ripe.net [193.0.21.33]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F282F583 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:48:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AA8CB65.30903@ripe.net> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:48:21 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ippm >> IETF IPPM WG" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: ---- X-RIPE-Signature: e0cdef1f45f89a40ad608d255b27e7d5fcdd1fa41828fd22ac59651fbf1bbfd2 Subject: [ippm] NomCom information X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:48:01 -0000 FYI, Henk - - - Hi all, This is a 2nd reminder of the Call for Nominations that is underway. We *really* need more nominations in order to properly execute the task of selecting candidates for the open positions. At this time, the number of nominations for all the positions is about 1/2 of what is necessary for the Nomcom to do a conscientious job of evaluating the nominees and we are over 2/3 of the way through the nominations period. Nomcom cannot do their job without this important input from the community. So, please consider making nominations for the open positions - it takes just a few minutes of your time - the details are below. Right now, we just need the names/email addresses for the nominees - we'll be soliciting feedback later. Also, consider that over 1/2 the nominees are not able to accept the nominations for a variety of reasons - e.g., lack of funding, lack of sponsor support, etc. Thus, please consider nominating more than one individual for each of the positions. As well as the reminder for the call for nominations, this email also serves as a reminder for: 2) Local Office Hours 3) Questionnaires available for nominees Best Regards, Mary Barnes nomcom-chair@ietf.org mary.h.barnes@gmail.com mary.barnes@nortel.com ======================================================================== = 1) Call for Nominations ------------------------ The nomination period ends in less than 2 weeks on Sept. 18th, 2009. We appreciate the folks that have taken the time to make nominations thus far. But, we do need more nominations. Please use the online tool to nominate - it's fast, easy and secure: https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/nominate Details on the open positions, as well as other details and options for making nominations are available on the Nomcom homepage: https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/ Please consider that the sooner you make the nominations, the more time your nominee(s) will have to complete the necessary questionnaire (item 3 below). As well, please consider nominating more than one person for a particular position. You will have the opportunity to provide additional feedback later and it's important to consider that not all nominees will be able to accept the nomination. 2) Local office hours ----------------------- In order facilitate additional feedback, the Nomcom has decided to make themselves available for office areas at various geographic locations for 3 weeks in September, starting on the 8th. Below please find the list of locations where Nomcom members will be available for these f2f meetings . Unless dates are identified below, the Nomcom member is generally available for part of the day during the weeks of Sept 8-11, Sept 14-18 and Sept 21-25. Also, languages other than English in which the Nomcom member is fluent are identfied. Please contact a Nomcom member in a specific geographic location to arrange a convenient meeting time and place. Most Nomcom members are flexible as to meeting locations - i.e., we can travel to your office, meet at our offices or somewhere in between. As a reminder folks can always contact any Nomcom member to provide feedback at anytime - i.e., you don't need to participate in these f2f sessions to provide feedback. Belgium: Dimitri Papadimitriou - dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be (Sept 21-25) (Languages: French) Boston, Mass, USA: Stephen Kent - kent@bbn.com (Sept 16-18) Boulder, CO, USA: Wassim Haddad - wmhaddad@gmail.com (Sept 14-18) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX, USA: Mary Barnes - mary.h.barnes@gmail.com Lucy Yong - lucyyong@huawei.com (Languages: Chinese) Helsinki, Finland: Simo Veikkolainen - simo.veikkolainen@nokia.com (Languages: Finnish) Ithaca, NY, USA: Scott Brim - scott.brim@gmail.com Montevideo, Uruguay: Roque Gagliano - roque@lacnic.net (Sept 14-18, 21-25) (Languages: Spanish, Portuguese) Montreal, Quebec, Canada Wassim Haddad - wmhaddad@gmail.com (Sept 8-11) -- Can also be available in Ottawa if folks are interested Paris, France: Dimitri Papadimitriou - dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be (Sept 15-18) (Languages: French) San Diego, CA, USA: Randall Gellens - rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Dave Crocker - dcrocker@bbiw.net (Sept 16-18) Silicon Valley/SF Bay, CA, USA: Dave Crocker - dcrocker@bbiw.net (Sept 8-11, Sept 14-15, Sept 21-25) Dorothy Gellert - Dorothy.gellert@gmail.com 3) Questionnaires available for nominees: For folks that have been notified that they have been nominated for any of the positions, the questionnaires are now available on the Nomcom09 tools website: https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/iab-questionnaire https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/iaoc-questionnaire https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/iesg-questionnaire If you have any questions, please let me know. I will be contacting everyone individually, as well as sending reminders. From henk@ripe.net Thu Sep 17 00:03:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB523A698A for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:03:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.647 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.647 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.952, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S3plhP3OZOIr for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postgirl.ripe.net (postgirl.ripe.net [193.0.19.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297243A698F for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.ripe.net ([193.0.1.203]) by postgirl.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MoB2C-00038E-85 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:04:10 +0200 Received: from geir-3.local (henk.vpn.ripe.net [193.0.21.33]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C9D2F592 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:04:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AB1CF1A.3070704@ripe.net> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:54:34 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF IPPM WG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: ---- X-RIPE-Signature: e0cdef1f45f89a40ad608d255b27e7d5c7b68bb0526112ed889d461e003b5aae Subject: [ippm] [Fwd: Nomcom 2009-10: FINAL Call for Nominations, Local Office hours, Nominee Questionnaires] X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:03:27 -0000 FYI, and please volunteer. Henk -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Nomcom 2009-10: FINAL Call for Nominations, Local Office hours, Nominee Questionnaires Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:07:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mary Barnes To: IETF Announcement list CC: ietf@ietf.org Hi all, This is the Final Call for Nominations - the nominations period ends in two days on Sept 18, 2009. We do not have a sufficient number of nominations for the following AD positions: APP, OPS, RAI and SEC In addition, we have not received responses from almost half of the nominees. I will be sending reminders for all the outstanding nominations. We need Community input and participation!!! We cannot properly execute the task of selecting the best candidates for these positions with so few accepted nominations. So, please consider making nominations for the open positions, in particular those for which we have so few nominations - it takes just a few minutes of your time. Right now, we just need the names/email addresses - we'll be soliciting feedback later. Also, please note that although draft-dawkins-nomcom-openlist-06 has been approved, the 2009-10 Nomcom is NOT operating under these new guidelines. As well as the reminder for the call for nominations, this email also serves as a reminder for: 2) Local Office Hours through Sept. 25, 2009. 3) Questionnaires due from Nominees on Sept. 25, 2009. Best Regards, Mary Barnes nomcom-chair@ietf.org mary.h.barnes@gmail.com mary.barnes@nortel.com ========================================================================= 1) Call for Nominations ------------------------ The nomination period ends in less than 2 days on Sept. 18th, 2009. We appreciate the folks that have taken the time to make nominations thus far. But, we do need more nominations. Please use the online tool to nominate - it's fast, easy and secure: https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/nominate Details on the open positions, as well as other details and options for making nominations are available on the Nomcom homepage: https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/ You will have the opportunity to provide additional feedback later and it's important to consider that not all nominees will be able to accept the nomination. 2) Local office hours ----------------------- In order facilitate additional feedback, the Nomcom has decided to make themselves available for office areas at various geographic locations from September 8th through Sept. 25th. Below please find the list of locations where Nomcom members will be available for these f2f meetings . Unless dates are identified below, the Nomcom member is generally available for part of the day during the weeks of Sept 8-11, Sept 14-18 and Sept 21-25. Also, languages other than English in which the Nomcom member is fluent are identfied. Please contact a Nomcom member in a specific geographic location to arrange a convenient meeting time and place. Most Nomcom members are flexible as to meeting locations - i.e., we can travel to your office, meet at our offices or somewhere in between. As a reminder folks can always contact any Nomcom member to provide feedback at anytime - i.e., you don't need to participate in these f2f sessions to provide feedback. Belgium: Dimitri Papadimitriou - dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be (Sept 21-25) (Languages: French) Boston, Mass, USA: Stephen Kent - kent@bbn.com (Sept 16-18) Boulder, CO, USA: Wassim Haddad - wmhaddad@gmail.com (Sept 14-18) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX, USA: Mary Barnes - mary.h.barnes@gmail.com Lucy Yong - lucyyong@huawei.com (Languages: Chinese) Helsinki, Finland: Simo Veikkolainen - simo.veikkolainen@nokia.com (Languages: Finnish) Ithaca, NY, USA: Scott Brim - scott.brim@gmail.com Montevideo, Uruguay: Roque Gagliano - roque@lacnic.net (Sept 14-18, 21-25) (Languages: Spanish, Portuguese) Montreal, Quebec, Canada Wassim Haddad - wmhaddad@gmail.com (Sept 8-11) -- Can also be available in Ottawa if folks are interested Paris, France: Dimitri Papadimitriou - dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be (Sept 15-18) (Languages: French) San Diego, CA, USA: Randall Gellens - rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Dave Crocker - dcrocker@bbiw.net (Sept 16-18) Silicon Valley/SF Bay, CA, USA: Dave Crocker - dcrocker@bbiw.net (Sept 8-11, Sept 14-15, Sept 21-25) Dorothy Gellert - Dorothy.gellert@gmail.com 3) Questionnaires available for nominees: For folks that have been notified that they have been nominated for any of the positions, the questionnaires are available on the Nomcom09 tools website: https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/iab-questionnaire https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/iaoc-questionnaire https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/09/iesg-questionnaire The questionnaires are due no later than Sept. 25th, 2009. If you have any questions or concerns with meeting the deadline, please let me know. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.xs4all.nl/~henku P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Belgium: an unsolvable problem, discussed in endless meetings, with no hope for a solution, where everybody still lives happily. From henk@ripe.net Fri Sep 18 01:52:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D8C3A69A2 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:52:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.092 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.092 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.267, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, SARE_LWSHORTT=1.24] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6FzkeTJc7PlR for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postgirl.ripe.net (postgirl.ripe.net [193.0.19.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511D528C178 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.ripe.net ([193.0.1.203]) by postgirl.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MoZDT-0004DX-PW for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:53:25 +0200 Received: from geir-3.local (henk.vpn.ripe.net [193.0.21.33]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4992F592 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:53:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AB34A7F.2040902@ripe.net> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:53:19 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF IPPM WG References: <4A77E3BD.3070601@ripe.net> In-Reply-To: <4A77E3BD.3070601@ripe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: --- X-RIPE-Signature: e0cdef1f45f89a40ad608d255b27e7d508b9efcb1eb8ea45c0c73abc1ecdbcb8 Subject: Re: [ippm] WGLC for draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-04.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:52:33 -0000 IPPM group, > This is a WGLC for the draft: > > Reporting IP Performance Metrics to Users > draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-04.txt > > The draft has been discussed extensively in this group, comments from the > last reviews have been included and the draft appears to be stable by now. > We like to start a WGLC in order to move it forward. Please raise any > remaining issues by Monday, September 14, 8:00 UTC. > > As discussed in Stockholm, we will ask the authors to change the title of > the draft such that it includes the words "short term" (in order to > distinguish it from the long term reporting draft). > > An URL for the draft is: > > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-04.txt > > Matt & Henk > No comments were received so we assume that there is consensus and move the document forward. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.xs4all.nl/~henku P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Belgium: an unsolvable problem, discussed in endless meetings, with no hope for a solution, where everybody still lives happily. From henk@ripe.net Fri Sep 18 01:55:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBCD3A6901 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:55:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.726 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.726 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.127, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kt1L09fzPnCJ for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postlady.ripe.net (postlady.ripe.net [193.0.19.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F5C3A6995 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.ripe.net ([193.0.1.203]) by postlady.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MoZFk-0004qj-Ad for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:55:45 +0200 Received: from geir-3.local (henk.vpn.ripe.net [193.0.21.33]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3372F592 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:55:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AB34B0C.9030503@ripe.net> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:55:40 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ippm >> IETF IPPM WG" References: <4A77E4F7.3030301@ripe.net> In-Reply-To: <4A77E4F7.3030301@ripe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: ---- X-RIPE-Signature: e0cdef1f45f89a40ad608d255b27e7d5ecc031835439cedd08193423a7690ea5 Subject: Re: [ippm] Adopt draft-morton-ippm-reporting-metrics-07 as WG document. X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:55:08 -0000 IPPM Group, > In Stockholm, we received a request to adopt > > Reporting Metrics: Different Points of View > draft-morton-ippm-reporting-metrics-07 > > as a WG item. If you have any comments on this, please let us know before > Monday, September 14, 2009. We will, of course, ask the authors to change > the title such that it is clear that this draft is on long term reporting. > > Matt & Henk No comments were received, earlier discussion did indicate that there was interest, so this has been approved as a WG document. Authors, please submit as draft-ietf-ippm... Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.xs4all.nl/~henku P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Belgium: an unsolvable problem, discussed in endless meetings, with no hope for a solution, where everybody still lives happily. From henk@ripe.net Fri Sep 18 01:58:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB213A69AA for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:58:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.897, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2hiq3SPnmz99 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postgirl.ripe.net (postgirl.ripe.net [193.0.19.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE7F3A6958 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.ripe.net ([193.0.1.203]) by postgirl.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MoZJK-0004Wh-1E for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:59:27 +0200 Received: from geir-3.local (henk.vpn.ripe.net [193.0.21.33]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A702F592; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:59:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AB34BEA.9060109@ripe.net> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:59:22 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henk Uijterwaal References: <4A77E556.9010905@ripe.net> In-Reply-To: <4A77E556.9010905@ripe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: ---- X-RIPE-Signature: e0cdef1f45f89a40ad608d255b27e7d54e684b87967e82e109f91aace36d5b0e Cc: IETF IPPM WG Subject: Re: [ippm] Adopt draft-duffield-ippm-burst-loss-metrics-01 as a WG document. X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:58:35 -0000 IPPM, > In Stockholm, we received a request to adopt > > Burst Loss Metrics for IPPM > draft-duffield-ippm-burst-loss-metrics-01 > > as a WG item. If you have any comments on this, please let us know before > Monday, September 14, 2009. No comments were received. This makes it a bit hard to judge if there is interest to work on this. So, if you are interested, please send an explicit "yes" to the list. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.xs4all.nl/~henku P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Belgium: an unsolvable problem, discussed in endless meetings, with no hope for a solution, where everybody still lives happily.