From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Fri Aug 19 09:33:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B09521F85AE; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:33:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.058 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.058 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.381, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jEztI9AJBQXU; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfcpa.amsl.com [12.22.58.47]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D9C21F8B3F; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 17F2398C247; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:34:03 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20110819163403.17F2398C247@rfc-editor.org> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ippm@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [ippm] RFC 6349 on Framework for TCP Throughput Testing X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:33:06 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6349 Title: Framework for TCP Throughput Testing Author: B. Constantine, G. Forget, R. Geib, R. Schrage Status: Informational Stream: IETF Date: August 2011 Mailbox: barry.constantine@jdsu.com, gilles.forget@sympatico.ca, Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de, reinhard@schrageconsult.com Pages: 27 Characters: 62494 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-ippm-tcp-throughput-tm-13.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6349.txt This framework describes a practical methodology for measuring end- to-end TCP Throughput in a managed IP network. The goal is to provide a better indication in regard to user experience. In this framework, TCP and IP parameters are specified to optimize TCP Throughput. This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is published for informational purposes. This document is a product of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. INFORMATIONAL: This memo provides information for the Internet community. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From jerome.benoit@grenouille.com Sat Aug 20 12:19:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA5C21F8559 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:19:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.979 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.979 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jA87fvaig0fR for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laposte.grenouille.com (ns37873.ovh.net [91.121.8.57]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D4821F84EF for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by laposte.grenouille.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDC67F17E for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:20:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: spam & virus filtering at laposte.grenouille.com Received: from laposte.grenouille.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns37873.ovh.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DTh4D4phGwU5 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:20:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nemesis.grenouille.com (bea13-2-82-239-143-199.fbx.proxad.net [82.239.143.199]) by laposte.grenouille.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113397F150 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:20:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nemesis.grenouille.com (nemesis.grenouille.com [127.0.0.1]) by nemesis.grenouille.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 823FF6B050 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:20:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:20:36 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me?= Benoit To: ippm@ietf.org Message-Id: <20110820212036.675a38a0.jerome.benoit@grenouille.com> In-Reply-To: <201107261227.p6QCR422001852@alpd052.aldc.att.com> References: <07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC903E72CD5@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> <9323BB97-069F-4D83-BCAC-210E115D6263@internet2.edu> <4E2E6AAD.9070109@uijterwaal.nl> <3D5D4623-398F-49AF-9D9A-E37EB4A80BA0@internet2.edu> <4E2E7B43.4030407@uijterwaal.nl> <201107261227.p6QCR422001852@alpd052.aldc.att.com> Organization: Grenouille.com X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.4; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Sat__20_Aug_2011_21_20_36_+0200_7_t__ZHE/znY3Bu2" Subject: Re: [ippm] "secret sauce" X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 19:19:45 -0000 --Signature=_Sat__20_Aug_2011_21_20_36_+0200_7_t__ZHE/znY3Bu2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:27:52 -0400,=20 Al Morton a =E9crit : >=20 > Already doing it, Henk, in a prototype system. :-) > Al >=20 Same here and the code is Open Sourced, under heavy development and freely available for testing. Cheers.=20 --=20 J=E9r=F4me Benoit aka fraggle La M=E9t=E9o du Net - http://grenouille.com OpenPGP Key ID : 9FE9161D Key fingerprint : 9CA4 0249 AF57 A35B 34B3 AC15 FAA0 CB50 9FE9 161D --Signature=_Sat__20_Aug_2011_21_20_36_+0200_7_t__ZHE/znY3Bu2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk5QCQUACgkQ+qDLUJ/pFh2hnQCg3g+k3AdpHFCM/KgWt86Z/PkJ PqYAoOC0oFV0idz3aLfNMum/h9u/hEMJ =hP1V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sat__20_Aug_2011_21_20_36_+0200_7_t__ZHE/znY3Bu2-- From Barry.Constantine@jdsu.com Mon Aug 22 08:05:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BE721F85B1 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:05:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.512 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.512 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.086, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kmhycbAv2OTW for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og107.obsmtp.com (exprod7og107.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.167]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DD97921F859E for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx5.jdsu.com ([209.36.247.247]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob107.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTlJwcf5Q2tCW9ntn9U2TcX3ZCQse7xgl@postini.com; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:06:27 PDT Received: from milexhtca1.ds.jdsu.net (192.168.10.158) by mx5.jdsu.com (192.168.10.247) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.192.1; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:03:02 -0700 Received: from MILEXCH1.ds.jdsu.net ([10.75.2.115]) by milexhtca1.ds.jdsu.net ([::1]) with mapi; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:03:22 -0700 From: Barry Constantine To: "ippm@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:03:20 -0700 Thread-Topic: Estimating Network Buffer Size with npad or ndt Thread-Index: Acxg3KHCZ1mXOF6ZR8mxWRXbi1ZP8A== Message-ID: <94DEE80C63F7D34F9DC9FE69E39436BE3A1D18D847@MILEXCH1.ds.jdsu.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_94DEE80C63F7D34F9DC9FE69E39436BE3A1D18D847MILEXCH1dsjds_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [ippm] Estimating Network Buffer Size with npad or ndt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:05:22 -0000 --_000_94DEE80C63F7D34F9DC9FE69E39436BE3A1D18D847MILEXCH1dsjds_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I know one of these tools can estimate network buffer size on an end-end ba= sis, I think it is ndt? If anyone on this list is familiar with the technique used, please reply. I was pondering whether the TCP test client continues to increase the CWND,= measuring RTT along the way till it detects some level of retransmits. Then with the throughput achieved and RTT (before retransmission threshold)= , calculate network buffer size. Thank you, Barry Constantine --_000_94DEE80C63F7D34F9DC9FE69E39436BE3A1D18D847MILEXCH1dsjds_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

I know one= of these tools can estimate network buffer size on an end-end basis, I thi= nk it is ndt?

 

If anyone on this list is familiar with the technique used,= please reply.

 

I was pondering whether the TCP test client continues to i= ncrease the CWND, measuring RTT along the way till it detects some level of= retransmits.

 

Then with the throughput achieved and RTT (before retransmi= ssion threshold), calculate network buffer size.

 

Thank you,

Barry Constantine

=  

= --_000_94DEE80C63F7D34F9DC9FE69E39436BE3A1D18D847MILEXCH1dsjds_-- From henk@uijterwaal.nl Tue Aug 23 02:01:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6129321F8AD2 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 02:01:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.442 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.442 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qNmjJx4Gzlup for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 02:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF4721F8ABD for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 02:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geir.local (thuis.uijterwaal.nl [82.95.178.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7N92RTO054142 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:02:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from henk@uijterwaal.nl) Message-ID: <4E536CA2.40905@uijterwaal.nl> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:02:26 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF IPPM WG References: <20110822223023.4F74521F8BA0@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20110822223023.4F74521F8BA0@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20110822223023.4F74521F8BA0@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: [ippm] Fwd: Nomcom 2011-2012: Call for Nominations X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:01:57 -0000 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Nomcom 2011-2012: Call for Nominations Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:30:23 -0700 (PDT) From: NomCom Chair To: IETF Announcement list CC: ietf@ietf.org Hi All, The 2011-2012 Nominating committee is seeking nominations from now until October 2, 2011. The list of open positions can be found at: https://www.ietf.org/group/nomcom/2011/ Nominations may be made directly on the NomCom 2011-2012 pages by selecting the Nominate link at the top of the page. The URL for NomCom 2011-2012 pages is: https://www.ietf.org/group/nomcom/2011/ Nominations may also be made by email to nomcom11@ietf.org. If you do so, please include the word "Nominate" in the Subject and indicate in the email who is being nominated, their email address (to confirm acceptance of the nomination), and the position for which you are making the nomination. If you wish to nominate someone via email for more than one position, please use separate emails to do so. Self nomination is welcome. NomCom 2011-2012 will follow the policy for "Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees" described in RFC 5680. As stated in RFC 5680: "The list of nominees willing to be considered for positions under review in the current NomCom cycle is not confidential". Willing Nominees for each position will be publicly listed. The public nominee list will be updated at least once a week and possibly more often as nominations are received. With the exception of publicly listing willing nominees, the confidentiality requirements of RFC 3777 remain in effect. All feedback and NomCom deliberations will remain confidential and not disclosed. Because the list of nominees this year is public, we will accept feedback on the nominees starting August 23, 2011. Per RFC 5680, we will accept feedback from the entire IETF community on all the nominees. If you wish to provide anonymous feedback, the chair or any of the members will be happy to handle this for you. The Nominating Committee chair can be reached at nomcom-chair@ietf.org and the entire nominating committee can be reached at nomcom11@ietf.org. The email addresses of individual NomCom members is also on the NomCom 2011-2012 pages. In addition to nominations, the Nominating Committee is actively seeking community input on the jobs that need to be filled. We have received the job descriptions from the IAB, IESG, and IAOC and they can be found at: https://www.ietf.org/group/nomcom/2011/iab-requirements https://www.ietf.org/group/nomcom/2011/iesg-requirements https://www.ietf.org/group/nomcom/2011/iaoc-requirements However, we also need the community's views and input on the jobs within each organization. If you have ideas on job responsibilities (more, less, different), please let us know. Please send suggestions and feedback to nomcom11@ietf.org. Thank you, Suresh Krishnan Chair, NomCom 2011-2012 nomcom-chair@ietf.org suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce From steve.baillargeon@ericsson.com Mon Aug 29 12:08:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357DA21F8C9E for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:08:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uPx6KXFYSH55 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A680B21F8C9B for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id p7TJA4iH014047 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:10:15 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.158]) by eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) with mapi; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:10:05 -0400 From: Steve Baillargeon To: "ippm@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:10:04 -0400 Thread-Topic: Expiration impending: draft-baillargeon-ippm-twamp-value-added-octets Thread-Index: AcxmQOW/bQ3zp08rQJSq5H0fFeljFAAPcDpA Message-ID: <4383945B8C24AA4FBC33555BB7B829EF1183DD08FD@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> References: <20110829114206.12880.31102.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20110829114206.12880.31102.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [ippm] Expiration impending: draft-baillargeon-ippm-twamp-value-added-octets X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:08:51 -0000 Henk, Matt We would like to start a WGLC in order to move it forward. Any comments? -Steve -----Original Message----- From: IETF Secretariat [mailto:ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org]=20 Sent: August-29-11 7:42 AM To: Steve Baillargeon; Christofer Flinta; Andreas Johnsson A; Svante Ekelin Subject: Expiration impending: draft-baillargeon-ippm-twamp-value-added-oct= ets The following draft will expire soon: Filename: draft-baillargeon-ippm-twamp-value-added-octets Title: TWAMP Value-Added Octets State: I-D Exists Expires: 2011-09-08 (in 1 week, 2 days) From henk@uijterwaal.nl Tue Aug 30 03:52:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB95A21F8BCD for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:52:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cl2vawYJf6nP for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33E321F8BBC for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geir.local (thuis.uijterwaal.nl [82.95.178.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7UArINC006763 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:53:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from henk@uijterwaal.nl) Message-ID: <4E5CC11D.4050902@uijterwaal.nl> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:53:17 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ippm@ietf.org References: <4D9C23B1.8040205@uijterwaal.nl> <4E2D29AD.8020006@uijterwaal.nl> In-Reply-To: <4E2D29AD.8020006@uijterwaal.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: [ippm] WGLC draft-ietf-ippm-loss-episode-metrics-02 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:52:23 -0000 IPPM group, > This starts a WGLC for the draft: > > Loss Episode Metrics for IPPM > draft-ietf-ippm-loss-episode-metrics-02 > > Please review the draft and raise any issues by Monday, August 29, 8:00 UTC. > This is indeed longer than usual, due to the current meeting and the > vacation period. An URL for the draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-loss-episode-metrics/ No comments were received so we'll move this draft forward. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk(at)uijterwaal.nl http://www.uijterwaal.nl Phone: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There appears to have been a collective retreat from reality that day. (John Glanfield, on an engineering project) From henk@uijterwaal.nl Tue Aug 30 03:53:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40BB21F8BF8 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:53:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.457 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.457 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QbDOqaDrHNnv for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B9B21F8BBC for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geir.local (thuis.uijterwaal.nl [82.95.178.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7UAsFAP080723 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:54:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from henk@uijterwaal.nl) Message-ID: <4E5CC157.30103@uijterwaal.nl> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:54:15 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ippm@ietf.org References: <4E2D29AD.8020006@uijterwaal.nl> <4E2EB964.8060109@uijterwaal.nl> In-Reply-To: <4E2EB964.8060109@uijterwaal.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: [ippm] WGLC for draft-ietf-ippm-metrictest-03 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:53:20 -0000 IPPM group, On 26/07/2011 14:56, Henk Uijterwaal wrote: > > IPPM group, > > This starts a WGLC for the draft: > > IPPM standard advancement testing > draft-ietf-ippm-metrictest-03 > > Please review the draft and raise any issues by Monday, August 29, 8:00 UTC. > This is indeed longer than usual, due to the current meeting and the > vacation period. An URL for the draft is: > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-metrictest/ No comments were received so we'll move this draft forward. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk(at)uijterwaal.nl http://www.uijterwaal.nl Phone: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There appears to have been a collective retreat from reality that day. (John Glanfield, on an engineering project) From henk@uijterwaal.nl Tue Aug 30 03:55:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA40521F8C08 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:55:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.46 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.46 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.044, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MX6t0WznoUlU for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B4A21F8BBC for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geir.local (thuis.uijterwaal.nl [82.95.178.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7UAu6RC052020 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:56:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from henk@uijterwaal.nl) Message-ID: <4E5CC1C6.6060808@uijterwaal.nl> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:56:06 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ippm@ietf.org References: <4E2EBA1A.1080508@uijterwaal.nl> In-Reply-To: <4E2EBA1A.1080508@uijterwaal.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: [ippm] Adopt draft-morton-ippm-testplan-rfc2679-01 as a WG document X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:55:11 -0000 IPPM Group, On 26/07/2011 14:59, Henk Uijterwaal wrote: > IPPM group, > > This is a formal proposal to adopt > > Test Plan and Results for Advancing RFC 2679 on the Standards Track > draft-morton-ippm-testplan-rfc2679-01 > > as a WG document. Please review the draft and raise any objections by > Monday, August 29, 8:00 UTC. A URL for the draft is: > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-morton-ippm-testplan-rfc2679/ No objections were received so this is now a WG document. Authors: please resubmit this draft as draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2679. Others: please submit comments on this document. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk(at)uijterwaal.nl http://www.uijterwaal.nl Phone: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There appears to have been a collective retreat from reality that day. (John Glanfield, on an engineering project) From henk@uijterwaal.nl Tue Aug 30 04:04:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A1C21F8C06 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 04:04:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.041, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hgYyCv8sXIKf for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 04:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F014921F8C1E for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 04:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geir.local (thuis.uijterwaal.nl [82.95.178.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7UB5aL2082742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:05:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from henk@uijterwaal.nl) Message-ID: <4E5CC400.6000205@uijterwaal.nl> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:05:36 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ippm@ietf.org References: <20110829114206.12880.31102.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4383945B8C24AA4FBC33555BB7B829EF1183DD08FD@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <4383945B8C24AA4FBC33555BB7B829EF1183DD08FD@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: [ippm] Expiration impending: draft-baillargeon-ippm-twamp-value-added-octets X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:04:42 -0000 Steve, > We would like to start a WGLC in order to move it forward. > Any comments? Well, a WGLC is only appropriate if rough consensus about the document has been reached and there is no need for further discussion. The WGLC is there to catch the last remaining details. I don't think that this document is in that stage. In Quebec, one of the conclusions was that we should define what problem we are trying to solve with this draft (and similar). The chairs are preparing a statement on that. Once we have agreed on the problem, we should go back to solution space. This draft will be valuable input. Henk > > -Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: IETF Secretariat [mailto:ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org] > Sent: August-29-11 7:42 AM > To: Steve Baillargeon; Christofer Flinta; Andreas Johnsson A; Svante Ekelin > Subject: Expiration impending: draft-baillargeon-ippm-twamp-value-added-octets > > The following draft will expire soon: > > Filename: draft-baillargeon-ippm-twamp-value-added-octets > Title: TWAMP Value-Added Octets > State: I-D Exists > Expires: 2011-09-08 (in 1 week, 2 days) > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk(at)uijterwaal.nl http://www.uijterwaal.nl Phone: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There appears to have been a collective retreat from reality that day. (John Glanfield, on an engineering project)