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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The ACM SIGCOMM SOSR Software Systems Award is given to an individual or an= institution to recognize the development of a software system that has had= a significant impact on SDN research, implementations, and tools. The impa= ct may be reflected in the widespread adoption of the system, or of its und= erlying concepts, by the wider SDN community, either in research projects, = in the open-source community, or commercially. The award includes a prize a= nd an invited talk. Self-nominations are accepted, please see the link belo= w for nomination details. Nomination Deadline: January 12th, 2019 Additional details: https://conferences.sigcomm.org/sosr/2019/award.html Regards, Wenfei Wu Assistant Professor at Tsinghua University ________________________________ wenfeiwu@outlook.com --_000_DM6PR15MB22174489535DF87897BD4CB7C8AE0DM6PR15MB2217namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The ACM SIGCOMM SOSR = ;Software Systems Award is given to an i= ndividual or an institution to recognize the&= nbsp;development of a software system that ha= s had a significant impact on SDN resear= ch, implementations, and tools. The impact ma= y be reflected in the widespread adoption&nbs= p;of the system, or of its underlying co= ncepts, by the wider SDN community, either&nb= sp;in research projects, in the open-source c= ommunity, or commercially. The award includes = ;a prize and an invited talk. Self-nomination= s are accepted, please see the link belo= w for nomination details.

Nomination Deadline: January 12th, 2019
Additional details: https://conferences.sigcomm.org/sosr/2019/awa= rd.html

Regards,
Wenfei Wu
Assistant Professor at Tsinghua University

wenfeiwu@outlook.com
--_000_DM6PR15MB22174489535DF87897BD4CB7C8AE0DM6PR15MB2217namp_-- From nobody Mon Dec 3 18:03:21 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159F4130DDB for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:03:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LaD3vM89qK5O for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52B21130DD9 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from LHREML711-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 86A048910A453 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 02:03:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML414-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.75) by LHREML711-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.34) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 02:03:15 +0000 Received: from NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com ([fe80::a54a:89d2:c471:ff]) by nkgeml414-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.75]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 10:03:05 +0800 From: Tianran Zhou To: "ippm@ietf.org" , "Frank Brockners (fbrockne)" , "Shwetha Bhandari (shwethab)" CC: Zengyanfang Thread-Topic: some questions on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-04 Thread-Index: AdSLdWVRQw1b0MXTR1qQGwilBTuGCA== Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 02:03:04 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.156.116] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] some questions on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-04 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2018 02:03:20 -0000 Hi Authors, I am reading this draft and feel some queue related description is not clea= r to me. 1. queue depth: 4-octet unsigned integer field. This field indicates the current length of the egress interface queue of the interface from where the packet is forwarded out. The queue depth is expressed as the current number of memory buffers used by the queue (a packet may consume one or more memory buffers, depending on its size). The size of memory buffer varies from different chips. Typical chips use 51= 2 bytes for one memory buffer, but some other chip use 256, or so. So for one packet, it may consume different number of memory buffers in dif= ferent devices. I am afraid this will impact the analytics application, sin= ce it do not know what this number really means for the congestion/queue ut= ilization. To some extent, do you think the total queue length/occupancy ratio worth r= ecording? So that the analytics application know the occupation rate. But t= his is also hard, because many chips use shared buffer, that means each que= ue does not have a fixed length. 2. buffer occupancy: 4-octet unsigned integer field. This field indicates the current status of the buffer occupancy. The buffer occupancy is expressed as the current number of memory buffers used by the set of queues that share a common buffer pool. Could you explain how to use this data? What's the use case that make this = data field valuable? 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Tue, 4 Dec 2018 17:50:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alissa Cooper To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test@ietf.org, Tianran Zhou , ippm-chairs@ietf.org, zhoutianran@huawei.com, ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154397463294.4660.2324272779261072737.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2018 17:50:32 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-03: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 01:50:33 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-03: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In Section 4, 'Since the consensus of many dictionary definitions of "consist" is "composed or made up of"' seems like an odd justification for a normative requirement for conformance with RFC 4656 and RFC 5357. It seems like it would be clearer (and maybe more accurate) to say, "For avoidance of doubt, implementation of both ... are REQUIRED ...." 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Al, thanks for clarifying Linda=E2=80=99s = questions. I=E2=80=99ve entered a No Objection ballot. Alissa > On Nov 26, 2018, at 4:54 PM, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) = wrote: >=20 > Hi Linda,=20 > thanks for your gen-art review, concise replies below, > Al >=20 >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Linda Dunbar [mailto:Linda.dunbar@huawei.com] >> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:16 PM >> To: gen-art@ietf.org >> Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test.all@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; >> ippm@ietf.org >> Subject: Genart last call review of = draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-03 >>=20 >> Reviewer: Linda Dunbar >> Review result: Ready with Issues >>=20 >> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area >> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed >> by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just >> like any other last call comments. >>=20 >> For more information, please see the FAQ at >>=20 >> > 3A__trac.ietf.org_trac_gen_wiki_GenArtfaq&d=3DDwIDaQ&c=3DLFYZ- >> o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=3DOfsSu8kTIltVyD1oL72cBw&m=3D- >> = I8cqodaz0u_gF7v6lax31KbNDg7IGZaYBTIpuCuVOM&s=3DztMoKWjFnmEbnJT2WIOzjWXVN3t= lw >> Ivmy8p9bKOpyzY&e=3D>. >>=20 >> Document: draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-?? >> Reviewer: Linda Dunbar >> Review Date: 2018-11-26 >> IETF LC End Date: 2018-11-26 >> IESG Telechat date: 2018-12-06 >>=20 >> Summary: >> The draft briefs how TWAMP&OWAMP work and assigned a fixed UDP ports = for >> TWAMP >> & OWAMP Test messages > [acm]=20 > Not quite right, the abstract says: >=20 > This memo explains the motivation and describes the *re-assignment* = of > well-known ports for the OWAMP and TWAMP protocols for control and > measurement,... >>=20 >> Major issues: >> Section 5.1 states that the UDP port used for TEST are negotiated, = whereas >> the >> IANA section of this document states the explicit fixed UDP port . = Does >> it >> mean the negotiation is no longer needed?=20 > [acm]=20 > No, we are making a the well-known port available > for cases where the TWAMP systems don't wish to negotiate. >=20 >=20 >> Than all TEST messages are on >> the >> same UDP ports? Makings it not effective in making test messages >> traversing >> different ECMP paths. Why? > [acm]=20 > No, dynamic range still allowed, > and ECMP hash calculations are unaffected. >=20 >>=20 >> =E2=80=9C Section 3.5 [RFC5357] describes the detailed process of = negotiating >> the Receiver Port number, on which the TWAMP Session-Reflector will >> send and receive TWAMP-Test packets. The Control-Client, acting on >> behalf of the Session-Sender, proposes the Receiver port number = from >> the Dynamic Port range [RFC6335]: >> "The Receiver Port is the desired UDP port to which TWAMP-Test >> packets will be sent by the Session-Sender (the port where the >> Session-Reflector is asked to receive test packets). The = Receiver >> Port >> is also the UDP port from which TWAMP-Test packets will be sent = by >> the >> Session-Reflector (the Session-Reflector will use the same UDP = port >> to >> send and receive packets)." >>=20 >> Minor issues: >>=20 >> Does the following sentence mean the UDP port was already assigned to = to >> OWAMP >> & TWAMP control? > [acm]=20 > Yes, that's why the Abstract says *re-assignment*. >=20 >>=20 >> =E2=80=9C Since OWAMP-Control and TWAMP-Control require TCP = transport, they >> cannot make use of the UDP ports which were originally assigned. >> However, test sessions using OWAMP-Test or TWAMP-Test operate on = UDP >> transport.=E2=80=9D >>=20 >> The text then states that =E2=80=9CUse of this UDP port is OPTIONAL = in standards- >> track >> OWAMP and TWAMP. =E2=80=9C > [acm]=20 > Exactly, the Dynamic range is still available, according to RFC5357. >=20 >=20 >> If not using UDP ports, does it mean that the TCP ports are uses for >> OWAMP-TEST >> & TWAMP-TEST? > [acm]=20 > No, never. >=20 >>=20 >> Nits/editorial comments: >>=20 >> the head note has =E2=80=9CWAMP W-K UDP Ports=E2=80=9D as the title = which is different > [acm]=20 > it says *WAMP, meaning either OWAMP or TWAMP. >=20 >> from the >> draft title. 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Tue, 04 Dec 2018 18:50:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3EDB46BA-5EA7-4713-B109-03CF632AE948@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <3EDB46BA-5EA7-4713-B109-03CF632AE948@cisco.com> From: Greg Mirsky Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 18:50:15 -0800 Message-ID: To: "Ramesh Sivakolundu (sramesh)" Cc: Tianran Zhou , IETF IPPM WG , "Frank Brockners (fbrockne)" , "Shwetha Bhandari (shwethab)" , Zengyanfang Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e175ae057c3d71f8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] some questions on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-04 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 02:50:35 -0000 --000000000000e175ae057c3d71f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ramesh, you've said that both or one of these parameters may be used to convey percentage of buffers in use by the queue. Is my understanding of your explanation is correct? If that is right, how integer can effectively represent percentage? What accuracy of such use you expect? Regards, Greg On Tue, Dec 4, 2018, 10:44 Ramesh Sivakolundu (sramesh) The intent behind these two parameters is to get the percentage usage or > actual usage in units defined by the devices in the network. The size of > queue and buffer is dependent upon the implementation of the device and > those details are left up to the device and the collector of the telemetr= y > data to share. One approach is to use a YANG model to describe the device > details to the collector out of band. > > -Ramesh > > > =EF=BB=BFOn 12/3/18, 6:03 PM, "ippm on behalf of Tianran Zhou" < > ippm-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of zhoutianran@huawei.com> wrote: > > Hi Authors, > > I am reading this draft and feel some queue related description is no= t > clear to me. > > 1. queue depth: 4-octet unsigned integer field. This field indicate= s > the current length of the egress interface queue of the interfa= ce > from where the packet is forwarded out. The queue depth is > expressed as the current number of memory buffers used by the > queue (a packet may consume one or more memory buffers, dependi= ng > on its size). > > The size of memory buffer varies from different chips. Typical chips > use 512 bytes for one memory buffer, but some other chip use 256, or so. > So for one packet, it may consume different number of memory buffers > in different devices. I am afraid this will impact the analytics > application, since it do not know what this number really means for the > congestion/queue utilization. > > To some extent, do you think the total queue length/occupancy ratio > worth recording? So that the analytics application know the occupation > rate. But this is also hard, because many chips use shared buffer, that > means each queue does not have a fixed length. > > 2. buffer occupancy: 4-octet unsigned integer field. This field > indicates the current status of the buffer occupancy. The buff= er > occupancy is expressed as the current number of memory buffers > used by the set of queues that share a common buffer pool. > > Could you explain how to use this data? What's the use case that make > this data field valuable? > > Thanks, > Tianran > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > --000000000000e175ae057c3d71f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ramesh,=C2=A0
you've said th= at both or one of these parameters may be used to convey percentage of buff= ers in use by the queue. Is my understanding of your explanation is correct= ? If that is right, how integer can effectively represent percentage? What = accuracy of such use you expect?

Regards,=C2=A0
Greg=C2=A0



On Tue, Dec 4, 2018, 10:44 Ramesh Sivakolundu (srames= h) <sramesh@cisco.com wrote:
The intent behind these two parameter= s is to get the percentage usage or actual usage in units defined by the de= vices in the network. The size of queue and buffer is dependent upon the im= plementation of the device and those details are left up to the device and = the collector of the telemetry data to share. One approach is to use a YANG= model to describe the device details to the collector out of band.

-Ramesh


=EF=BB=BFOn 12/3/18, 6:03 PM, "ippm on behalf of Tianran Zhou" &l= t;ippm-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of zhoutianran@huawei.com&= gt; wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hi Authors,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I am reading this draft and feel some queue related descripti= on is not clear to me.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1. queue depth:=C2=A0 4-octet unsigned integer field.=C2=A0 T= his field indicates
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the current length of the egress interfa= ce queue of the interface
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 from where the packet is forwarded out.= =C2=A0 The queue depth is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 expressed as the current number of memor= y buffers used by the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 queue (a packet may consume one or more = memory buffers, depending
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 on its size).

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The size of memory buffer varies from different chips. Typica= l chips use 512 bytes for one memory buffer, but some other chip use 256, o= r so.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 So for one packet, it may consume different number of memory = buffers in different devices. I am afraid this will impact the analytics ap= plication, since it do not know what this number really means for the conge= stion/queue utilization.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 To some extent, do you think the total queue length/occupancy= ratio worth recording? So that the analytics application know the occupati= on rate. But this is also hard, because many chips use shared buffer, that = means each queue does not have a fixed length.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2. buffer occupancy:=C2=A0 4-octet unsigned integer field.=C2= =A0 This field
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 indicates the current status of the buff= er occupancy.=C2=A0 The buffer
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 occupancy is expressed as the current nu= mber of memory buffers
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 used by the set of queues that share a c= ommon buffer pool.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Could you explain how to use this data? What's the use ca= se that make this data field valuable?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Tianran

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______________________________________________
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with mapi id 15.00.1395.000; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 12:34:59 -0600 From: "Ramesh Sivakolundu (sramesh)" To: Tianran Zhou , "ippm@ietf.org" , "Frank Brockners (fbrockne)" , "Shwetha Bhandari (shwethab)" CC: Zengyanfang Thread-Topic: [ippm] some questions on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-04 Thread-Index: AQHUjAFOwqh/ZBbTNk+0C0ycUMN5S6VvZKDwgAD0SoA= Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 18:34:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: <3EDB46BA-5EA7-4713-B109-03CF632AE948@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.157.148.240] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 173.36.7.17, xch-aln-007.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: alln-core-12.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] some questions on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-04 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org 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aW5nIGxpc3QNCiAgICA+ICAgICBpcHBtQGlldGYub3JnDQogICAgPiAgICAgaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cu aWV0Zi5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9pcHBtDQogICAgPiANCiAgICANCiAgICANCg0K From nobody Wed Dec 5 20:04:14 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A23C130DE0; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 20:04:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Spencer Dawkins To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test@ietf.org, Tianran Zhou , ippm-chairs@ietf.org, zhoutianran@huawei.com, ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154406904555.32013.17170578159239279758.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 20:04:05 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-03: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 04:04:06 -0000 Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-03: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for producing this document. A draft that's useful AND cleans up a dangling port assignment is a good thing! This text This memo recognizes the value of assigning a well-known UDP port to the *-Test protocols, and that this goal can easily be arranged through port re-assignments. is slightly odd ("memos recognize things now?"). Perhaps something like Assigning a well-known UDP port to the *-Test protocols provides value, and can easily be arranged through port re-assignments. might be clearer. Do the right thing, of course. This text TWAMP Light is an idea described in Informative Appendix I of [RFC5357], and includes an un-specified control protocol (possibly communicating through non-standard means) combined with the TWAMP- Test protocol. confused me - I'm not sure what "(possibly communicating through non-standard means)" adds to "an un-specified control protocol", which already tells me I have no idea what the control protocol is doing. Is this something I need to understand? I wasn't quite sure what When considering privacy of those involved in measurement or those whose traffic is measured, the sensitive information available to potential observers is greatly reduced when using active techniques which are within this scope of work. means - is it simply that synthetic traffic doesn't reveal sensitive information? https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-03#appendix-A was interesting to me (it significantly predates my connection to IPPM), but I wonder if anyone who needs to read this explanation will find it in this document. Do the right thing, of course. From nobody Thu Dec 6 01:22:20 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6559B127B4C; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 01:22:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Benjamin Kaduk To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test@ietf.org, Tianran Zhou , ippm-chairs@ietf.org, zhoutianran@huawei.com, ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154408813841.3499.17395914320017340961.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 01:22:18 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-03: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 09:22:18 -0000 Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-03: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. 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2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDD612D7EA; Sun, 9 Dec 2018 09:18:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ippm@ietf.org Message-ID: <154437593766.20691.11810898073126389008@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 09:18:57 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-04.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 17:18:58 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the IETF. Title : OWAMP and TWAMP Well-Known Port Assignments Authors : Al Morton Greg Mirsky Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-04.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2018-12-09 Abstract: This memo explains the motivation and describes the re-assignment of well-known ports for the One-way Active Measurement Protocol and Two- way Active Measurement Protocol (OWAMP and TWAMP) protocols for control and measurement, and clarifies the meaning and composition of these standards track protocol names for the industry. The memo updates RFC 4656 and RFC 5357, in terms of the UDP well- known port assignments, and clarifies the complete OWAMP and TWAMP protocol composition for the industry. 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IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 17:35:03 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the IETF. Title : Registry for Performance Metrics Authors : Marcelo Bagnulo Benoit Claise Philip Eardley Al Morton Aamer Akhter Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry-17.txt Pages : 34 Date : 2018-12-09 Abstract: This document defines the format for the Performance Metrics registry and defines the IANA Registry for Performance Metrics. This document also gives a set of guidelines for Registered Performance Metric requesters and reviewers. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Dec 9 09:35:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D41D130DD6; Sun, 9 Dec 2018 09:35:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ippm@ietf.org Message-ID: <154437694222.20243.12142557586773050575@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 09:35:42 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry-09.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 17:35:49 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the IETF. Title : Initial Performance Metric Registry Entries Authors : Al Morton Marcelo Bagnulo Philip Eardley Kevin D'Souza Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry-09.txt Pages : 79 Date : 2018-12-09 Abstract: This memo defines the Initial Entries for the Performance Metrics Registry. This version includes: * removed sections which only contained examples, or a blank outine for new metric entries. * removed remaining comments (did not require action). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Fri, 14 Dec 2018 09:02:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test@ietf.org, The IESG , ippm-chairs@ietf.org, ippm@ietf.org, ietf@kuehlewind.net, Tianran Zhou , zhoutianran@huawei.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <154480695003.30536.12421199895233527723.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 09:02:30 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] Protocol Action: 'OWAMP and TWAMP Well-Known Port Assignments' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-04.txt) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 17:02:30 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'OWAMP and TWAMP Well-Known Port Assignments' (draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-04.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the IP Performance Measurement Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Mirja Kühlewind and Spencer Dawkins. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test/ Technical Summary This memo explains the motivation and describes the re-assignment of well-known ports for the OWAMP and TWAMP protocols for control and measurement, and clarifies the meaning and composition of these standards track protocol names for the industry. Working Group Summary There was reasonable discussions in the mailing list. A couple of people supported the adoption of this document. There was no objection in the mailing list when the WG chair raised the LC. Document Quality This document request an IANA action and clarifies existing RFCs. Therefore no implementation or additional reviews are needed. Personnel Tianran Zhou is the shepherd. Mirja Kühlewind is the responsible AD. 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--=====_002_next=====-- --=====_001_next=====-- From nobody Thu Dec 20 01:33:22 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F319B12426A; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 01:33:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: ietf@trammell.ch, ippm-chairs@ietf.org, ietf@kuehlewind.net, ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154529840095.16173.12418933864715756450.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 01:33:20 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] ippm - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 104 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 09:33:21 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Brian Trammell, a Chair of the ippm working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: IP Performance Measurement Area Name: Transport Area Session Requester: Brian Trammell Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 60 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: tsvarea tsvwg taps bmwg xrblock quic ipsecme panrg Second Priority: iccrg maprg v6ops 6man 6lo opsec tcpm Third Priority: cdni People who must be present: Alfred Channon Morton Frank Brockners Spencer Dawkins Brian Trammell Mirja Kuehlewind Gregory Mirsky Bill Cerveny Giuseppe Fioccola Tommy Pauly Resources Requested: Special Requests: ---------------------------------------------------------