Return-Path: X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) id h3CHNQZ25966 for ips-outgoing; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:23:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: ece.cmu.edu: majordom set sender to owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu using -f Received: from mail.ivivity.com ([64.238.111.99]) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h3CHNP325959 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ATLOPS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2CY0S2A7>; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:23:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: Eddy Quicksall To: Andre Hedrick , Eddy Quicksall Cc: Russell Lewis , ips@ece.cmu.edu Subject: RE: Are there any coming iSCSI HBAs? Preferably at 100Mb speed? Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:23:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu Precedence: bulk yes -----Original Message----- From: Andre Hedrick [mailto:andre@linux-ide.org] Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:17 PM To: Eddy Quicksall Cc: Russell Lewis; ips@ece.cmu.edu Subject: RE: Are there any coming iSCSI HBAs? Preferably at 100Mb speed? Eddy, Are you suggesting drives with RJ45 connections as their interface? On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Eddy Quicksall wrote: > How about an iSCSI disk though? Are any of those available or on the drawing > board? > > Eddy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Russell Lewis [mailto:russelll@us.ibm.com] > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:50 PM > To: ips@ece.cmu.edu > Subject: RE: Are there any coming iSCSI HBAs? Preferably at 100Mb speed? > > > > > > An HBA of the sort I'm envisioning wouldn't need iSCSI Boot compliance. I > was thinking more along the lines of a card where you preconfigure the IP > address and iSCSI parameters and burn it onto flash memory. > > I know that $50-$100 is the commodity price range...that's exactly what I'm > looking for. I know that it's too early to really expect that, but > somebody like NetGear could make a lot of money... > > I just wonder if somebody could take fairly standard 10/100 Ethernet > hardware, slap on a little embedded processor, some memory, and some > EEPROM, and then run an open source initiator. For development simplicity, > maybe just run embedded Linux on the little processor. > > > > > > |---------+----------------------------> > | | "Steven J. | > | | Schuchart Jr." | > | | | | om> | > | | Sent by: | > | | owner-ips@ece.cmu| > | | .edu | > | | | > | | | > | | 04/11/2003 12:30 | > | | PM | > | | | > |---------+----------------------------> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | To: > | > | cc: > | > | Subject: RE: Are there any coming iSCSI HBAs? Preferably at > 100Mb speed? | > | > | > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------| > > > > > Hmmm....I am reviewing iSCSI HBAs that look like SCSI adapters to the > system > right now. They are 10/100/1000, and cost in excess of $500.00. I > seriously doubt there will be a card like you describe for economic > reasons. > > The $50-$100 price range is a commodity price range. The development costs > are going to be prohibitive for an iSCSI HBA at that low speed, especially > when you can simply add a second NIC on a different subnet for iSCSI > traffic > for about that price. That's not even addressing the issue of a 100Mb > card. > Most people will not put up with 10MB/sec max disk transfer rates. > > Beyond that, I do not believe that the iSCSI boot specification is > completed > as of yet. As far as I know you cannot boot from an iSCSI device at this > time. If that's not right, someone please correct me. > > Honestly, you would be better off using a PXE network boot. > > Steven > > Steven J. Schuchart Jr. > Associate Technology Editor > Servers and Storage Technology > Network Computing Magazine > Email: sschuchart@nwc.com > "Information is the currency of democracy." - Thomas Jefferson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu [mailto:owner-ips@ece.cmu.edu]On Behalf Of > Russell Lewis > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 11:25 AM > To: ips@ece.cmu.edu > Subject: Are there any coming iSCSI HBAs? Preferably at 100Mb speed? > > > > > > > Does anybody know of any current or coming iSCSI HBAs which show up (to the > BIOS) as ordinary SCSI adapters? I'd like to drop such an HBA into a > legacy computer and run a totally diskless workstation at home. > > However, since it will be a home computer, I'm willing to operate at 100Mb > speed - I'm willing to eat the performance hit. It seems to me that > somebody could make an iSCSI HBA with a 100Mb interface and make it > affordable for the home user (say, $50-$100). Anybody know of such plans? > > > > Andre Hedrick LAD Storage Consulting Group