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From: Eddy Quicksall <eddy_quicksall@ivivity.com>
To: Julian Satran <Julian_Satran@il.ibm.com>
Cc: "Ips@Ece.Cmu.Edu (ips@ece.cmu.edu)" <ips@ece.cmu.edu>
Subject: RE: FW: iSCSI: TargetPortalGroupTag for discovery
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Thanks,
 
I suggest that if the spec is ever revised that there is a statement saying
that the target portal group tag does not need to be reported when a target
name is not given (ala a discovery session).
 
Eddy
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Satran [mailto:Julian_Satran@il.ibm.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 1:29 PM
To: Eddy Quicksall
Cc: Ips@Ece.Cmu.Edu (ips@ece.cmu.edu)
Subject: Re: FW: iSCSI: TargetPortalGroupTag for discovery
 

Eddy, 

I think Marjorie is right - you SHOULD report TargetPortalGroup during a
normal session to enable initiators to sense a configuration change if there
was one. 
I will check the text for the typo - thanks - and wording. 
I think you may ignore it for discovery sessions. 

Regards, 
Julo 




Eddy Quicksall <eddy_quicksall@ivivity.com> 
24/05/03 01:31 

To
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Subject
FW: iSCSI: TargetPortalGroupTag for discovery
 

 
 



Julian, 
  
Can you comment on this? 
  
I would like to not have to report the TargetPortalGroupTag during a
discovery session. 
  
Eddy 
  
-----Original Message-----
From: Eddy Quicksall [mailto:eddy_quicksall@ivivity.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 4:23 PM
To: KRUEGER,MARJORIE (HP-Roseville,ex1); Ips@Ece.Cmu.Edu (ips@ece.cmu.edu)
Subject: RE: iSCSI: TargetPortalGroupTag for discovery 
  
The definition of SSID says this: 
  
The TargetPortalGroupTag key must also be returned 
the target as a confimation (typo) during connection establishment. 
  
  
Eddy 
  
-----Original Message-----
From: KRUEGER,MARJORIE (HP-Roseville,ex1) [mailto:marjorie.krueger@hp.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 4:16 PM
To: 'Eddy Quicksall'; Ips@Ece.Cmu.Edu (ips@ece.cmu.edu)
Subject: RE: iSCSI: TargetPortalGroupTag for discovery 
  
I think the wording in the spec says TargetPortalGroupTag should be included
in the Login response.  It seems that a discovery session where multiple
targets are being serviced by the same IP address is a case where
TargetPortalGroupTag need not be reported?  The intent behind reporting
TargetPortalGroupTag is directed towards Full Feature Sessions so that the
initiator can verify that it's discovery information is still valid. 
-----Original Message-----
From: Eddy Quicksall [mailto:eddy_quicksall@ivivity.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 1:03 PM
To: Ips@Ece.Cmu.Edu (ips@ece.cmu.edu)
Subject: iSCSI: TargetPortalGroupTag for discovery 
I have a question regarding the determination of the Target Portal Group Tag
during a discovery session when the TargetName is not supplied. 
  
The TargetPortalGroupTag must be reported in the first Login Response for
all session types. But without the TargetName, how does the network entity
determine which Target Portal Group Tag to report if two different targets
in the network entity are using the same IP Address/TCP Port? 
  
Eddy 
  

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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that there is a statement saying that the target portal group tag does =
not need
to be reported when a target name is not given (ala a discovery =
session).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Julian Satran
[mailto:Julian_Satran@il.ibm.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, May 24, =
2003 1:29
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Eddy Quicksall<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Ips@Ece.Cmu.Edu
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: FW: iSCSI:
TargetPortalGroupTag for discovery</span></font></p>

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think Marjorie is right - you SHOULD report TargetPortalGroup during a =
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<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
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face=3DArial><span
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not have
to report the TargetPortalGroupTag during a discovery =
session.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></f=
ont> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'><br>
From:</span></b> Eddy Quicksall [mailto:eddy_quicksall@ivivity.com] =
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'><br>
Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-family:Tahoma'>Friday,
May 23, 2003 4:23 PM<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'><br>
To:</span></b> KRUEGER,MARJORIE (HP-Roseville,ex1); Ips@Ece.Cmu.Edu =
(ips@ece.cmu.edu)<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'><br>
Subject:</span></b> RE: iSCSI: TargetPortalGroupTag for =
discovery</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>&nbsp;</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The definition =
of SSID
says this:</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3DCourier><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Courier'>&nbsp;</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3DCourier><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Courier'>The TargetPortalGroupTag key must also be =
returned</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3DCourier><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Courier'>the target as a confimation (typo) during
connection establishment.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DCourier><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Courier'>&nbsp;</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></f=
ont> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Eddy</span></fon=
t> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></f=
ont> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'><br>
From:</span></b> KRUEGER,MARJORIE (HP-Roseville,ex1)
[mailto:marjorie.krueger@hp.com] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'><br>
Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-family:Tahoma'>Friday,
May 23, 2003 4:16 PM<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'><br>
To:</span></b> 'Eddy Quicksall'; Ips@Ece.Cmu.Edu =
(ips@ece.cmu.edu)<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'><br>
Subject:</span></b> RE: iSCSI: TargetPortalGroupTag for =
discovery</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>&nbsp;</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue =
face=3DGeorgia><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue'>I think the =
wording in
the spec says TargetPortalGroupTag <i><span =
style=3D'font-style:italic'>should</span></i>
be included in the Login response. &nbsp;It seems that a discovery =
session
where multiple targets are being serviced by the same IP address is a =
case
where TargetPortalGroupTag need not be reported? &nbsp;The intent =
behind
reporting TargetPortalGroupTag is directed towards Full Feature =
Sessions so
that the initiator can verify that it's discovery information is still =
valid.</span></font>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'><br>
From:</span></b> Eddy Quicksall [mailto:eddy_quicksall@ivivity.com] =
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'><br>
Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-family:Tahoma'>Friday,
May 23, 2003 1:03 PM<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'><br>
To:</span></b> Ips@Ece.Cmu.Edu (ips@ece.cmu.edu)<b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'><br>
Subject:</span></b> iSCSI: TargetPortalGroupTag for =
discovery</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have a question regarding the determination =
of the
Target Portal Group Tag during a discovery session when the TargetName =
is not
supplied.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The TargetPortalGroupTag must be reported in =
the
first Login Response for all session types. But without the TargetName, =
how
does the network entity determine which Target Portal Group Tag to =
report if
two different targets in the network entity are using the same IP =
Address/TCP
Port?</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Eddy</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>&nbsp;</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

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