From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Sun Apr 2 18:08:39 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA26938 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id C73E452DA; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id 2864052DC; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:03:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Limoncelli Message-Id: <200004022203.SAA03770@starling.research.bell-labs.com> To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Subject: The iptel list is moving! Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk The iptel mailing list is moving to iptel@lists.bell-labs.com. 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From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Sun Apr 2 21:20:43 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA28116 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A4144339; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FEDB44336 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Sun Apr 2 21:18:42 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 539FA44344; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from starling.research.bell-labs.com (starling.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.26.187]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D69244341 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tal@localhost) by starling.research.bell-labs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA04422 for iptel@lists.bell-labs.com; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:05:32 -0400 From: Tom Limoncelli To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <20000402210532.A4380@starling.research.bell-labs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us Subject: [IPTEL] IPTEL List moved successfully Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com The IPTEL mailing list was moved to the new server successfully. The new posting address for this list is: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com General information about the mailing list is at: http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/options/iptel/USER@HOST In other words, if your email address was joe@example.com go to: http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/options/iptel/joe@example.com If you have any questions, please feel free to write to me. --Tom Limoncelli Listadmin tal@research.bell-labs.com _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon Apr 3 17:16:59 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA24950 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F13744337; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from illustrious.cnchost.com (illustrious.concentric.net [207.155.252.7]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E75144336 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ss8networks.com (gw-ss8networks.storm.ca [209.87.234.122]) by illustrious.cnchost.com id RAA23873; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:16:28 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.8] Message-ID: <38E90971.6AFBCE65@ss8networks.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:13:21 -0400 From: Dave Walker Organization: SS8 Networks Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPTEL] TRIP NextHopServer Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that we need to add a port number field to NextHopServer. Unless I missed something in the mailing list archives, it seems that this was accepted, but didn't make it into the draft. Of course we can always guess 5060 for SIP, and 1720 for H.323 (which might not work for GK routed signalling), but these are only defaults: servers may use other ports. The current draft refers to RFC 1700 for address family, and mentions (as an editor's note) that it'd be nice to get an address family id for DNS names. I'm not sure that the reference to that RFC is appropriate, since it's kind of out-of-date, and could be replaced by a pointer to http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/address-family-numbers (if references to URLs are legal in RFCs!). Looking there, it seems that we already have an identifier for DNS. Regards, Dave Walker SS8 Networks Ottawa, Canada _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Tue Apr 4 02:26:48 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA21457 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 02:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF6F44341; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 02:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from redball.dynamicsoft.com (unknown [216.173.40.51]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B093A44340 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 02:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dynamicsoft.com (1Cust25.tnt1.freehold.nj.da.uu.net [63.17.113.25]) by redball.dynamicsoft.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id CAA28526; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 02:27:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <38E98D00.FE1D15F0@dynamicsoft.com> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 02:34:40 -0400 From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Walker Cc: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Subject: Re: [IPTEL] TRIP NextHopServer References: <38E90971.6AFBCE65@ss8networks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Walker wrote: > > I think that we need to add a port number field to NextHopServer. Unless > I missed something in the mailing list archives, it seems that this was > accepted, but didn't make it into the draft. Of course we can always > guess 5060 for SIP, and 1720 for H.323 (which might not work for GK routed > signalling), but these are only defaults: servers may use other ports. Yes, this should be in the next revision. > > The current draft refers to RFC 1700 for address family, and mentions > (as an editor's note) that it'd be nice to get an address family id for > DNS names. I'm not sure that the reference to that RFC is appropriate, > since it's kind of out-of-date, and could be replaced by a pointer to > http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/address-family-numbers (if > references to URLs are legal in RFCs!). Looking there, it seems that > we already have an identifier for DNS. During the meeting, there seemed consensus to ditch the rfc1700 address family thing entirely, and rather use a string which can contain either a domain name, dotted quad, or IPv6 address in string form. Generally, the domain name should be used. As Dave pointed out, this is a layer 7 protocol, and so it should be using as high level naming as possible. -Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg 72 Eagle Rock Ave. Chief Scientist First Floor dynamicsoft East Hanover, NJ 07936 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (732) 741-4778 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~jdrosen PHONE: (732) 741-7244 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Tue Apr 4 15:09:06 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA12840 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2303244388; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from smtp1.cluster.oleane.net (smtp1.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.16]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A6D44336; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 05:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oleane (dyn-1-1-028.Vin.dialup.oleane.fr [195.25.4.28]) by smtp1.cluster.oleane.net with SMTP id KAA30648; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:41:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <003401bf9d50$4ccfe220$0401a8c0@oleane.com> From: "Peter Lewis" To: Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:37:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF9D61.0F33BA20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: [IPTEL] SIP 2000 International Conference Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF9D61.0F33BA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unknown and even rejected by many vendors and operators only a few = months ago, SIP is on the brink of making a definitive name for itself.=20 Visit the SIP 2000 International Conference programme: http://www.upperside.fr/basip.htm =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF9D61.0F33BA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF9D61.0F33BA20-- _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Tue Apr 4 15:18:05 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA13179 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8514438C; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DB1944336 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:00:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Mon Apr 3 18:00:20 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 4BBC444345; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224B844341 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id D316552D4; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E5B552C8 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Mon Apr 3 17:45:56 EDT 2000 Received: from redball.dynamicsoft.com ([216.173.40.51]) by dusty; Mon Apr 3 17:45:55 EDT 2000 Received: from dynamicsoft.com ([216.173.40.50]) by redball.dynamicsoft.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id RAA27924; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <38E912F1.73470D4B@dynamicsoft.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:53:53 -0400 From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eber Mello Cc: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPTEL] Re: "Otherwise" as mandatory output node Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eber Mello wrote: > > Hi Rosenberg, > > Would you comment on this? > > The current CPL draft (March 10/2000) states that "Otherwise" is an > optional node on the output list of the "Switch-" nodes; we understand > that it makes more sense to always be able to find > a way out of a non signalling action node, meaning that a CPL script > would be able to handle all calls given to it. It seems quite simple > to expect a user to specify either to drop ("Reject") or forward ("Proxy") > all other calls not handled by the other output nodes of a "Switch-" node. > This probably simplifies the script execution and seems safer as gives > no room for mistakenly performing an action not meant to be executed > (all actions are defined by the latest signalling action node visited > vis-a-vis the latest request, response or internal event arrived). So, you are suggesting that otherwise always be used if the set of other possible output tags are not all present? I'm not sure this is needed. CPL clearly specifies actions to be taken by the server when there are no further commands to execute in the CPL. I don't see why we need to special case the switch nodes. > > If we could go this way we could have the SIP registration define either > "proxy", "redirect" or "script" policy for a user, meaning that this user > either has services (policy=script) or not (policy=redirect or proxy). Rather than this, I think the CPL transport in REGISTER should be used: http://www.softarmor.com/sipwg/drafts/draft-lennox-sip-reg-payload-00.txt -Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. 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------=_NextPart_000_00FD_01BFA30E.8B930140-- _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Tue Apr 18 02:15:20 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA28429 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7022444338; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from redball.dynamicsoft.com (unknown [216.173.40.51]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E125544336 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dynamicsoft.com ([63.38.191.103]) by redball.dynamicsoft.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id CAA26190 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <38FBFF9B.B54FA74@dynamicsoft.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:24:27 -0400 From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "iptel, list" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D09B68DE40C7610456DC01DC" Subject: [IPTEL] minutes from IETF 47 Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D09B68DE40C7610456DC01DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, Attached are the minutes from the iptel meeting in Adelaide. Please send any comments on these minutes to me, or to the list, by end of the week. Thanks to Joerg Ott for taking notes. Thanks, Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg 72 Eagle Rock Ave. Chief Scientist First Floor dynamicsoft East Hanover, NJ 07936 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (732) 741-4778 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~jdrosen PHONE: (732) 741-7244 http://www.dynamicsoft.com --------------D09B68DE40C7610456DC01DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="minutes_mar00.txt" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="minutes_mar00.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Minutes of the iptel working group IETF 47 Adelaide, Australia Monday, 19.30 - 22.00 Minutes taken by: Joerg Ott Minutes prepared by: Jonathan Rosenberg Agenda Bashing -------------- Agenda: Agenda Bashing 5mins Rosenberg Status of docs 5mins Rosenberg Framework for IIN 15mins Slutsman TRIP 45mins Rosenberg TRIP for GWs 15mins Rosenberg CPL 45mins Rosenberg Agenda accepted w/o modifications. Status of documents ------------------- - CPL Framework - submitted to the IESG for Informational - approved & awaiting RFC # - TRIP Framework - resubmitted in March - under consideration now Framework and Requirements for the Internet Intelligent Networks ---------------------------------------------------------------- - presented by Lev Slutsman [draft-lslutsman-sip-iin-framework.txt] Outline - Generalized IIN architecture - transparent access from SIP network to traditional IN services - Internet service creation - API fo service creation Transp. access to trad. IN - Motivation - PSTN and VoIP network will coexist for some time - reuse of h/w (SCP, SN, SMS) software, service logial - time-to-market for introduction of VoIP services - propose to include t access to traditional IN together with IN-nased sevrixew creation (CPL, CGI) - APIs Generalize IIN Architecture Traditional IN Architecture Arhictecture (cont.) - based on remote execution logic - SoftSwitch layer makes SCP leblieve thgat it deals with switches - challenge is to map SIP FSM onto SSP FSM Internet-based service creation - The execution of the service logic takes place on the server Generalize IIN Architecture - how to invoke a service logic (e.g. script) - use a triffer database - trigger + ordered list of programs to be executed - trigger = SIP-call-leg + State - in addition, information that comes with a message, along with "global" variables are used by service logic Two approaches proposed: * The Distributed Service Creation Environment * The Centralized Service Creation Environment There were no comments on this work. TRIP Changes ------------ - Jonathan Rosenberg Overview - Authentication Attribute - Intra-domain Flooding algorithm - Removal of Marker - Next hop can be IP address or domain name - LocalPreference must be used as received - Minor attribute semantics Auth Attr - list of signatures - each signature is over a specific attribute - signature data includes - ITAD of signer - TRIP ID of signer - Auth Algorithm - Signature - Signature covers ReachableRoutes and attribue TRIP Internal Flooding - purpose: sync the database of all LSs within a domain - method: link-state based - topology determination - contains peerings relationsship at each LS - allows LS to determine internal topology - peering changes flooded to all LSs - ITAD topology: - a list with identifiers of an LSs internal peers - flooded to peers when peering changes - strictly intra-domain - link state encapsulated attribute - Link State Encapsulation - purpose: detect loops - applies to three attr.s - contains sequence number and originator TRIP databases - Adj-Trib-In - Adj-Trib-External - Loc-Trib: one per LS - Adj-Trib-Out: one per external peer Flooding of Routes - if Adj-TRIB-External changes - status of a route originating at LS changes Receiving Flooded Routes - check if its a loop - looped if originator = me - received a route with same SN already in DB - if no loop, check if its newer than route in DB. If so, add. Route Selection - run on Adj-TRIB-Ins of peers and Adj-TRIB-External The point was emphasized about the need for the TRIB-External. Its main purpose is to enable faster convergence. When an internal peer crashes, all other internal peers already have the best external routes, and so they can all switch to this one, rather than waiting for the new best route to be propagated. Withdrawing routes - must hold withdrawn routes for some time Removal of Marker - BGP marker sign - original purpose was Auth and Sync - we don't need it for Authentication - using IPsec - removed it Next Hop Address formats - previously, was just IPv4 and IPv6. Want to add domain name. motivation: DNS support for load balancing can be used, also allows indirection step Dave Oran asked why we should even bother with IPv4 and IPv6. Rather, just use domain names. After all, this is an application layer protocol, not a layer 3 routing protocol. In any case, you can always allow IPv4 or IPv6 addresses as strings, just like a domain name. -> domain names only?: significant enough issue to take it to the list, but there seemed consensus to do it. Local preference - clarification that local preference must always be used, and not recomputed. Attribute Flags - some clarifications Pending Changes - TRIP port number: 6069 - addition of community attribute - send/recv/send-recv capability Community Attribute - found many uses in BGP4 - probably useful for us - optional - may as well include it now Send/Receive/SendReceive - useful for an LS to declare it will only - send routes - receive routes - both - default is both - if receive only, peer LS must not send - send-only applications (gateway, next presentation) - receiv only application (monitoring systems) Dave Oran expressed some concerns about send only and receive only. In particular, an LS which was send only to some peers and receive only to others could cause bizarre topology problems that foul things up. Thus, this capability must apply to the LS, rather than its relationship with peers. Open Issues: - the list is getting smaller - Main issues - default time values - usage of TRIP IDs - authentication mechanisms - Hop by hop security - Confederations Default Timer Values - taken from BGP4 timer defaults - new one: max purge time Comment: IS-IS uses 90 minutes for this timer; we may want to follow suit. Do we want to change any of the other ones? It was noted that you can always change the value of some of these (like the keepalive timer), and that we were really discussing the default. In that case, it may not matter. Usage of TRIP IDs - spec says it can be different for each external peer - If you do monitoring, you may want to use the same TRIP ID Authentication mechanisms - used in atuh attr - none are currently specified - probably not a bad idea to have just one - Proposals? -> None so far. People are encouraged to get back to the list. Brian Rosen volunteered to look into this and come back with suggestions. Hop-by-Hop Security: - IPsec - However: - ESP - transport - keying - Help! -> Propose { ESP, Transport, IKE } on the list. -> See what the reactions are. Confederations - collection of routes learned from peers all members of the same consortium - problems using community attribute - maybe we need a new attribute? - Do we need or want this? Dave Oran: no idea where this came from? What to use it for? Also, you will need security for this to be useful. In that case, why not use the use the signer of the attribute as indicator of the conferederation? -> Seems reasonable. discuss on the list WG Last Call to happen before next IETF - There are three different types of routes belonging to H.323 -> a single value to idenfify a route belonging to H.323 may not be sufficient -> needs to be clarified with H.323 folks However, there has been consensus in the past that RAS is not something that needs to be addressed by TRIP. Usage of TRIP for Gateway Route Exportation ------------------------------------------- -Jonathan Rosenberg, Hussein Salama Problem - how do proxies/LS learn about gateways in their domain - what addresses can they route to - are they alive or down - currently done through static configuration Why not SIP REGISTER? - semantics are wrong - timing is bad - scaling is bad TRIP is an ideal solution But TRIP is so hard... - very small subset of TRIP needed for this Minor change to TRIP - wasteful if LS sends UPDATES to g/w - use recv-only Dave Oran commented that this mechanism also provides a sanity check on the routes injected by the gateway -> double check that the TRIP-IDs of all routes are identical. Dean Willis commented that its preferable to configure gatways from a central point rather than learning what the gateway can rech from the g/w. In this case, this mechanism is not needed. The response was that this is not routing; this is central configuration. -> Comments were solicited to determine whether this work was worthwhile to pursue. CPL: Call Processing Language ----------------------------- Jonathan Rosenberg, presenting for Jonathan Lennox revision of CPL with a lot of changes make it work for H.323 and SIP - without making it work for the two independently Changes from the previous version: New structure: top-level actions - -> + - timezones subactions - similar to subroutines (instead of the previous "goto"s) new switch: address switch - string comparison is hard to achieve the right results - does not work for H.323 at all - define address-switch tag that is general purpose - define semantics and map them to the respective protocol fields new switch: priority-switch change: string-switch - removed glob matches - case insensitive matching with locale independent normalization change: time-switch top-level attribute: timezone - defines sets of timezones in format similar to timeswitch Dave Oran commented that we don't need another format for timezones. Rather than inventing one, why not reuse the format in the config files for Unix? Conclusions: -> some already well-defined way is definetely a nice-to-have -> further input (e.g. on an XML standard for this purpose) is solicited. change: added output tag - taken when desired field not in request Lookup: changes - added caller preferences integration - source can now be URL - added timeouts New tag: remove-location - allows for address filtering Proxy tag: changes - recurse (yes,no); ordering (parallel; sequential; first-only); timeout Other tag changes - response -> reject - notify -> mail (uses also mailto: syntax) - mail loses failure output Other model changes - initial location list for local outbound requests - default actions defined Many open issues: Open Issues: H.323 bindings -> textual way to represent an H.323 URL - What H.323 free forms strings should be matched? - review needed from the H.323 community Open Issues: language details - timezone - ok, we have propposal from today - many other minor issues Open Issues: identifiers and XML - DTDs vs. Schemas - input solicited There was no other comments during the discussion. There were generally nods of support throughout, indicating general support for the changes. --------------D09B68DE40C7610456DC01DC-- _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Apr 20 00:44:12 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA21284 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E402044338; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B507E44336 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by dirty; Thu Apr 20 00:42:25 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 2E4BE44344; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31C244341 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id B5D1352BB; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DFCEC52B6 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Thu Apr 20 00:27:08 EDT 2000 Received: from grimy.research.bell-labs.com ([204.178.16.57]) by dusty; Thu Apr 20 00:27:08 EDT 2000 Received: from maliwan.psu.ac.th ([192.100.77.4]) by grimy; Thu Apr 20 00:25:52 EDT 2000 Received: from localhost (s4110400@localhost) by maliwan.psu.ac.th (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA12865; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:19:41 +0700 (GMT) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:19:40 +0700 (GMT) From: "MR. SUNTICHAI CHUAYWONG" To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Cc: s4110400@maliwan.psu.ac.th Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [IPTEL] How to decode q.931 PDU Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com I am taking a pratical traing about IP Telephony, I am studying about h.323 and q.931 message (setup,connect). Now I have streams received from H.323 Application but I don't know how to decode it. It has some bytes between some field. If you are not busy,please give me some information about it,it may help me finish my work Thanks a lot Suntichai _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Apr 20 04:02:23 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA04035 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7926B44338; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 03:58:29 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E67244336 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 03:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Thu Apr 20 04:00:18 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 541FE44344; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 03:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBB944341 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 03:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id E7FE352BB; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 03:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B1C052B6 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 03:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Thu Apr 20 03:45:35 EDT 2000 Received: from maliwan.psu.ac.th ([192.100.77.4]) by dusty; Thu Apr 20 03:45:19 EDT 2000 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by maliwan.psu.ac.th (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA02907 for iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:41:10 +0700 (GMT) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:41:10 +0700 (GMT) Message-Id: <200004200741.OAA02907@maliwan.psu.ac.th> To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com From: s4110400@maliwan.psu.ac.th (Suntichai Chuaywong) Subject: [IPTEL] How to decode Q.931 PDU Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com I am taking an in-house practical training at my deparrtment, my project about IP Telephony. Now I am studying about H.323 and Q.931 message and I have a problem, I cannot decode Q931 PDU of each message ] particularly Settup and Connect message. If you have free time, please send me some information about this. It can help me finish my project Thank you very much Suntichai _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Apr 20 05:13:43 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA04510 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68FD44343; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A9A94433E for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Thu Apr 20 05:10:23 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 4DA1344344; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273C544341 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 03A3952BB; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:57:09 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AB1C52AB for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Thu Apr 20 04:56:20 EDT 2000 Received: from mail02.onetel.net.uk ([212.67.96.139]) by dusty; Thu Apr 20 04:56:19 EDT 2000 Received: from vince (async14-6.nas.onetel.net.uk [212.67.102.14]) by Mirapoint Server mail02.onetel.net.uk with SMTP id ABU86239 Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:52:37 GMT Message-ID: <003a01bfaaa5$da0a5820$6300a8c0@vince> From: "Ashley Unitt" To: "Suntichai Chuaywong" Cc: References: <200004200741.OAA02907@maliwan.psu.ac.th> Subject: Re: [IPTEL] How to decode Q.931 PDU Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:53:02 +0100 Organization: Egoboo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You could try looking at the OpenH323 project, www.openh323.org they have a tool called DumpH323 which will decode tcpdump messages for you. Ashley ----- Original Message ----- From: Suntichai Chuaywong To: Sent: 20 April 2000 08:41 Subject: [IPTEL] How to decode Q.931 PDU > I am taking an in-house practical training at my deparrtment, my project about IP Telephony. Now I am studying > about H.323 and Q.931 message and I have a problem, I cannot decode Q931 PDU of each message ] > particularly Settup and Connect message. If you have free time, please send me some information about this. > It can help me finish my project > Thank you very much > Suntichai > > > > _______________________________________________ > IPTEL mailing list > IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel > _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Apr 20 06:00:08 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA04867 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 06:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA27A44349; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CA57A4433E for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Thu Apr 20 05:58:19 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 5F92644344; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C67044341 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 3212E52BB; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:45:08 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6698152B6 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Thu Apr 20 05:44:28 EDT 2000 Received: from mail.multitech.co.in ([202.54.39.98]) by dusty; Thu Apr 20 05:44:27 EDT 2000 Received: from multitech.co.in [192.168.2.123] by mail.multitech.co.in [202.54.39.98] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.7.0.R) for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:10:06 +0530 Message-ID: <38FECF19.1609577E@multitech.co.in> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:04:17 +0530 From: Master Iraban X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Suntichai Chuaywong Cc: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Subject: Re: [IPTEL] How to decode Q.931 PDU References: <200004200741.OAA02907@maliwan.psu.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com X-Return-Path: master@multitech.co.in Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Suntichai, You can download one DNA (Data Network Analyser) for H.323. It is available on internet for free one month trial version. The site name I forgot and you can search for DNAH323. Using that you can see the Q.931 and H.323 PDU as well as all messages. Thanks & Bye Iraban Suntichai Chuaywong wrote: > I am taking an in-house practical training at my deparrtment, my project about IP Telephony. Now I am studying > about H.323 and Q.931 message and I have a problem, I cannot decode Q931 PDU of each message ] > particularly Settup and Connect message. If you have free time, please send me some information about this. > It can help me finish my project > Thank you very much > Suntichai > > _______________________________________________ > IPTEL mailing list > IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Apr 20 06:14:51 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA04988 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 06:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F1F4433C; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 06:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from jack.see.plym.ac.uk (jack.see.plymouth.ac.uk [141.163.49.98]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DCC744336 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 06:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sfres1.see.plymouth.ac.uk (sfres1.see.plymouth.ac.uk [141.163.49.101]) by jack.see.plym.ac.uk (NTMail 3.03.0014/4c.agsm) with ESMTP id va047081 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:12:15 +0100 Message-ID: <38FED7A8.F5EBA64B@jack.see.plym.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:10:48 +0100 From: Bogdan Ghita Organization: NRG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com Subject: Re: [IPTEL] How to decode Q.931 PDU References: <200004200741.OAA02907@maliwan.psu.ac.th> <38FECF19.1609577E@multitech.co.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DNA is made by TTC www.ttc.com It works, but mainly for off-line analysis. Cheers Bogdan Master Iraban wrote: > > Hello Suntichai, > You can download one DNA (Data Network Analyser) for H.323. > It is available on internet for free one month trial version. > The site name I forgot and you can search for DNAH323. > Using that you can see the Q.931 and H.323 PDU as well as all messages. > Thanks & Bye > Iraban > > Suntichai Chuaywong wrote: > > > I am taking an in-house practical training at my deparrtment, my project about IP Telephony. Now I am studying > > about H.323 and Q.931 message and I have a problem, I cannot decode Q931 PDU of each message ] > > particularly Settup and Connect message. If you have free time, please send me some information about this. > > It can help me finish my project > > Thank you very much > > Suntichai > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IPTEL mailing list > > IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com > > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel > > _______________________________________________ > IPTEL mailing list > IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon Apr 24 15:55:45 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA13498 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39374433B; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from redball.dynamicsoft.com (unknown [216.173.40.51]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E55F44336 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dynamicsoft.com ([216.173.40.50]) by redball.dynamicsoft.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id PAA10509 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3904A8EE.97A18439@dynamicsoft.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:05:02 -0400 From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "iptel, list" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPTEL] Minutes of IETF 47 Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, The official minutes of the iptel meeting at IETF 47 are now available at: http://www.bell-labs.com/mailing-lists/iptel/agenda-ietf47.txt Thanks, Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. 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  --=====================_710532==_.ALT-- _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Apr 27 11:40:17 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA02431 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:40:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631D344337; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AE8E44336 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by dirty; Thu Apr 27 11:38:20 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 8AD3344344; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5936044341 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 2B38252BB; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:25:09 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F90E52AB for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Thu Apr 27 11:24:54 EDT 2000 Received: from maliwan.psu.ac.th ([192.100.77.4]) by dusty; Thu Apr 27 11:24:52 EDT 2000 Received: from hoya (gateway.coe.psu.ac.th [203.154.146.4]) by maliwan.psu.ac.th (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA23778; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:24:40 +0700 (GMT) Message-ID: <004901bfb05e$333096e0$8300a8c0@coe.psu.ac.th> From: "Suntichai Chuaywong" To: Cc: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:34:50 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01BFB098.CC91FBA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [IPTEL] Thanks a lot and new question Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BFB098.CC91FBA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-874" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you very much for your information, I have already download = DNA-323. It is a very good application. But now I have a new problem, I = want to know that when the ASN file use. And another problem I don't have any information about = encoding ASN.1 message. If you have any information about them, please = send me. It is very important for me. = =20 = Thank you very much = Suntichai Chuaywong ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BFB098.CC91FBA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-874" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BFB09A.455AE460-- _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Apr 27 13:08:27 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA03966 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00BD44337; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A9FB744336 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Thu Apr 27 13:06:20 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 0A2E244344; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:53:11 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AF144341 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 6F2F152BB; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A3B9E52AB for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Thu Apr 27 12:51:17 EDT 2000 Received: from mbg.vsnl.net.in ([202.54.12.3]) by dusty; Thu Apr 27 12:51:16 EDT 2000 Received: from tenetindia.com (PPP-89-134.bng.vsnl.net.in [202.54.89.134]) by mbg.vsnl.net.in (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA01620 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:14:13 +0500 (GMT+0500) Message-ID: <390870D6.25014A12@tenetindia.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:24:47 +0530 From: Arvind Panwar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPTEL] CAMEL/CAP Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, If any one could help me regarding the CAMEL/ CAP which used in GSM. I know this question is a bit out of the way for this mailing list ...but I really need some info about the same. So if any one can help me out it will be really helpful for me. Even though I have gone through the related specifications but still then I'm not able to figure out which of them really sits in the stack of GSM. Awaiting for reply ! Arvind _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Fri Apr 28 00:14:25 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA13039 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B490C44338; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7663C44336 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Fri Apr 28 00:12:26 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id C11AB44344; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999FF44341 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id E45A152BB; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CE9752B6 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Thu Apr 27 23:59:03 EDT 2000 Received: from grimy.research.bell-labs.com ([204.178.16.57]) by dusty; Thu Apr 27 23:59:02 EDT 2000 Received: from maliwan.psu.ac.th ([192.100.77.4]) by grimy; Thu Apr 27 23:57:41 EDT 2000 Received: from hoya (gateway.coe.psu.ac.th [203.154.146.4]) by maliwan.psu.ac.th (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA18825; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:50:46 +0700 (GMT) Message-ID: <006901bfb0c6$772fd5a0$8300a8c0@coe.psu.ac.th> From: "Suntichai Chuaywong" To: Cc: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:00:57 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01BFB101.0806A4C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [IPTEL] My new problem about X.691 Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01BFB101.0806A4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-874" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't have any information about X.691 which use to encode ASN.1 = message. 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------=_NextPart_000_005D_01BFB101.0806A4C0-- _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Fri Apr 28 00:20:50 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA13068 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0B744348; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AE91D44346 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Fri Apr 28 00:14:17 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 92A2844345; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D5344341 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 2513352BB; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E0A152B6 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Fri Apr 28 00:00:15 EDT 2000 Received: from maliwan.psu.ac.th ([192.100.77.4]) by dusty; Thu Apr 27 23:53:43 EDT 2000 Received: from hoya (gateway.coe.psu.ac.th [203.154.146.4]) by maliwan.psu.ac.th (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA19145; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:52:52 +0700 (GMT) Message-ID: <008601bfb0c6$b8c38de0$8300a8c0@coe.psu.ac.th> From: "Suntichai Chuaywong" To: Cc: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:03:03 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0079_01BFB101.5320B7C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [IPTEL] Thanks a lot and new question Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01BFB101.5320B7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-874" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you very much for your information, I have already download = DNA-323. It is a very good application. But now I have a new problem, I = want to know that when the ASN file use. And another problem I don't have any information about = encoding ASN.1 message. If you have any information about them, please = send me. It is very important for me. = =20 = Thank you very much = Suntichai Chuaywong ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01BFB101.5320B7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-874" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0079_01BFB101.5320B7C0-- _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Fri Apr 28 08:19:06 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA29141 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F5144338; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:13:22 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 912E444336 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Fri Apr 28 08:16:34 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 33D0644345; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0C044341 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id C517F52BB; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from nj7460exch002h.wins.lucent.com (nj7460exch002h.ho.lucent.com [135.17.42.35]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BAB52B6 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nj7460exch002h.ho.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:03:20 -0400 Message-ID: <10632F7077C0D11190B900805F6F851C0507B30A@nj7460exch002u.ho.lucent.com> From: "Macri, Philip P (Philip)" To: "'iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com'" Cc: "Scribner, Neal M (Neal)" Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:03:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [IPTEL] Who are you? Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Hi: I've seen your e-mail address in mail that I get from my subscription to IETF. We probably have common interests. I'd like to talk to you about that and see if we can help each other. Phil Philip Macri Lucent Technologies, Inc HCP 21A 2139 Highway 35 Holmdel, N.J 07733 Phone: (732)-332-2407 Fax: (732)-332-2464 e-mail: pmacri@lucent.com (732)-224-0113 (Home) pmacri@home.com (Home) _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Fri Apr 28 08:40:11 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA29668 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B7D44344; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 88F2F4433B for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Fri Apr 28 08:38:19 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 8A9F544344; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:25:10 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDCA44341 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:25:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 20D0352BB; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:25:09 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A91E52B6 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Fri Apr 28 08:24:35 EDT 2000 Received: from mars.interdata.net ([208.157.87.5]) by dusty; Fri Apr 28 08:24:34 EDT 2000 Received: by mars.interdata.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:16:08 -0400 Message-ID: From: Alvaro ramirez To: "Macri, Philip P (Philip)" , "'iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com'" Cc: "Scribner, Neal M (Neal)" Subject: RE: [IPTEL] Who are you? Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:15:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Philips: My name is Alvaro Ramirez and my company is INTERDATA. We are currently deploying an ATM backbone between Europe and Latin America using fiber and satellite technology. We are using Lucent Technology equipment since we are resellers for Lucent equipment. Currently we are using CISCO AS 5300 and Lucent ITS as our VoIP engines, however, we are migrating into a softswitch type of technology. I am also in the process of developing a voice enabler web button so we can offer this service to portal. What is your role at Lucent-Bell-labs? Alvaro Ramirez INTERDATA-Miami -----Original Message----- From: Macri, Philip P (Philip) [SMTP:pmacri@lucent.com] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 8:03 AM To: 'iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com' Cc: Scribner, Neal M (Neal) Subject: [IPTEL] Who are you? Hi: I've seen your e-mail address in mail that I get from my subscription to IETF. We probably have common interests. I'd like to talk to you about that and see if we can help each other. Phil Philip Macri Lucent Technologies, Inc HCP 21A 2139 Highway 35 Holmdel, N.J 07733 Phone: (732)-332-2407 Fax: (732)-332-2464 e-mail: pmacri@lucent.com (732)-224-0113 (Home) pmacri@home.com (Home) _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Fri Apr 28 10:32:24 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA02254 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:32:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEFE44339; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C658744336 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:27:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by dirty; Fri Apr 28 10:30:20 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 42EC744344; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1755244341 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id AF92C52BB; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AE9BD52B6 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Fri Apr 28 10:15:55 EDT 2000 Received: from seattle.3com.com ([129.213.128.97]) by dusty; Fri Apr 28 10:15:54 EDT 2000 Received: from new-york.3com.com (new-york.3com.com [129.213.157.12]) by seattle.3com.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04844; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 07:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Anoop_Tripathi@3com.com Received: from hqoutbound.ops.3com.com (hqoutbound.OPS.3Com.COM [139.87.48.104]) by new-york.3com.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06394; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 07:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hqoutbound.ops.3com.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 882568CF.004E3888 ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 07:14:22 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: 3COM To: Alvaro ramirez Cc: "Macri, Philip P (Philip)" , "'iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com'" , "Scribner, Neal M (Neal)" Message-ID: <882568CF.004E3815.00@hqoutbound.ops.3com.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:17:53 -0500 Subject: RE: [IPTEL] Who are you? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Thanks to both of you for keeping us informaed about your conversation. Is it possible for you two to carry it offline. Thanks, Anoop Alvaro ramirez on 04/28/2000 07:15:58 AM Sent by: Alvaro ramirez To: "Macri, Philip P , "'iptel @lists.research.bell-labs.com'" cc: "Scribner, Neal M (Anoop Tripathi/MW/US/3Com) Subject: RE: [IPTEL] Who are you? Philips: My name is Alvaro Ramirez and my company is INTERDATA. We are currently deploying an ATM backbone between Europe and Latin America using fiber and satellite technology. We are using Lucent Technology equipment since we are resellers for Lucent equipment. Currently we are using CISCO AS 5300 and Lucent ITS as our VoIP engines, however, we are migrating into a softswitch type of technology. I am also in the process of developing a voice enabler web button so we can offer this service to portal. What is your role at Lucent-Bell-labs? Alvaro Ramirez INTERDATA-Miami -----Original Message----- From: Macri, Philip P (Philip) [SMTP:pmacri@lucent.com] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 8:03 AM To: 'iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com' Cc: Scribner, Neal M (Neal) Subject: [IPTEL] Who are you? Hi: I've seen your e-mail address in mail that I get from my subscription to IETF. We probably have common interests. I'd like to talk to you about that and see if we can help each other. Phil Philip Macri Lucent Technologies, Inc HCP 21A 2139 Highway 35 Holmdel, N.J 07733 Phone: (732)-332-2407 Fax: (732)-332-2464 e-mail: pmacri@lucent.com (732)-224-0113 (Home) pmacri@home.com (Home) _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Sun Apr 30 11:24:12 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA02795 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A0F44337; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 954A244336 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by dirty; Sun Apr 30 11:22:20 EDT 2000 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 7D05E44344; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547BB44341 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 54D0352BB; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7683152AB for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Sun Apr 30 11:08:14 EDT 2000 Received: from maliwan.psu.ac.th ([192.100.77.4]) by dusty; Sun Apr 30 11:08:13 EDT 2000 Received: from hoya (gateway.coe.psu.ac.th [203.154.146.4]) by maliwan.psu.ac.th (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA24817; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:08:03 +0700 (GMT) Message-ID: <002001bfb2b7$5b51a5a0$8300a8c0@coe.psu.ac.th> From: "Suntichai Chuaywong" To: Cc: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:18:05 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01BFB2F1.F4C3D340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [IPTEL] =?windows-874?B?5+dIb3cgaW1wb3J0YW50IG9mIE1hc3Rlci1zbGF2ZSBEZXRlcm1pbmF0?= =?windows-874?B?aW9u?= Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BFB2F1.F4C3D340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-874" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If I finish Master-slave determination process and I know which = terminal is master or slave, what should I do=20 next ? 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------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BFB2F1.F4C3D340-- _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Sun Apr 30 18:01:35 2000 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA04685 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB84344348; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from mx2.mail.yahoo.com (PPPa24-ResaleMyrtleBeach1-5R7290.saturn.bbn.com [4.48.85.213]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C1FF944336; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:53:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:29:28 Message-Id: <521.639589.575735@mx2.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [IPTEL] Parents of 15-year-old find $71,000 cash hidden in his closet Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Id: X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Parents of 15-year-old find $71,000 cash hidden in his closet Does this headline look familiar? Of course it does. You most likely have just seen this story recently featured on a major nightly news program (USA). His mother was cleaning and putting laundry away when she came across a large brown paper bag that was suspiciously buried beneath some clothes and a skateboard in the back of her 15-year-old son's closet. Nothing could have prepared her for the shock she got when she opened the bag and found it was full of cash. Five dollar bills, twenties, fifties and hundreds- all neatly rubber-banded in labeled piles. "My first thought was that he had robbed a bank", says the 41-year-old woman, "There was over $71,000 dollars in that bag- that's more than my husband earns in a year". The woman immediately called her husband at the car-dealership where he worked to tell him what she'd discovered. He came home right away and they drove together to the boy's school and picked him up. Little did they suspect that where the money came from was more shocking than actually finding it in the closet. As it turns out, the boy had been sending out via E-mail on the Internet a type of 'chain-letter' to E-mail addresses that he obtained off of the Internet. Everyday after school for the past 2 months, he had been doing this right on his computer in his bedroom. "I just got the E-mail one day and I figured what the heck, I put my name on it like the instructions said and I started sending it out", says the clever 15-year-old. The E-mail letter listed 3 addresses and contained instructions to send one $5 dollar bill to the person at the top of the list, then delete that address and move the other 2 addresses up, and finally to add your name to the bottom of the list. The letter goes on to state that you would receive several thousand dollars in five dollar bills within 2 weeks if you sent out the letter with your name at the bottom of the 3-address list "I get junk E-mail all the time, and I really didn't think it was gonna work", the boy continues. Within the first few days of sending out the E-mail, the Post Office Box that his parents had gotten him for his video-game magazine subscriptions began to fill up with not magazines, but envelopes containing $5 dollar bills. "about a week later I rode [my bike] down to the post office and my box had 1 magazine and about 300 envelopes stuffed in it. There was also a yellow slip that said I had to go up to the [post office] counter- I thought I was in trouble or something (laughs)". He goes on, "I went up to the counter and they had a whole box of more mail for me. I had to ride back home and empty out my backpack 'cause I couldn't carry it all". Over the next few weeks, the boy continued sending out the E-mail. "The money just kept coming in and I just kept sorting it and stashing it in the closet, I barely had time for my homework". He had also been riding his bike to several of the area's banks and exchanging the $5 bills for twenties, fifties and hundreds. "I didn't want the banks to get suspicious so I kept riding to different banks with like five thousand at a time in my backpack. I would usually tell the lady at the bank counter that my dad had sent me in [to exchange the money] and he was outside waiting for me. One time the lady gave me a really strange look and told me that she wouldn't be able to do it for me and my dad would have to come in and do it, but I just rode to the next bank down the street (laughs)." Surprisingly, the boy didn't have any reason to be afraid. The reporting news team examined and investigated the so-called 'chain-letter' the boy was sending out and found that it wasn't a chain-letter at all. In fact, it was completely legal according to US Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of federal regulations, Volume 16, Sections 255 and 436, which state a product or service must be exchanged for money received. Every five dollar bill that he received contained a little note that read, "Please add me to your mailing list". This simple note made the letter legal because he was exchanging a service (adding the purchasers name to his mailing list) for a five dollar fee. Here is the letter that the 15-year-old was sending out by E-mail, you can do the exact same thing he was doing, simply by following the instructions in this letter- -------------------------------------------- Here are instructions on how to make $10,000 US cash in the next 2 weeks: There are 3 addresses listed below. Send the person at the top of the list a $5 bill wrapped in 2 pieces of paper (to securely hide it), along with a note that says: "Please add me to your mailing list". Then delete that name, move the other 2 up and put your name at the bottom. Now start sending this ENTIRE E-mail back out to people. When 20 people receive it, those 20 people will move your name up to the middle position and they will each send out 20. That totals 400 people that will receive this letter with your name in the middle. Then, those 400 people will move your name up to the top and they will each send out 20 E-mails. That totals 8,000 people that will receive this E-mail with your name at the top and they will each send you a $5 bill. 8,000 people each sending you a $5 bill = $40,000 cash. That's if everyone responds to this E-mail, but not everyone will, so you can expect more realistically to receive about $10,000 cash $5 bills in your mailbox. This will work for anyone, anywhere in the world in any country, but send only a US CASH $5 bill. The more E-mails you send out, the more cash you will receive. If each person sends out 100 E-mails, there will be 1,000,000 people that receive this letter when your name reaches the top. If only 1% of those people respond, you will still get $50,000 cash. Here is the list: ---------------------------------------------------------- 1) K. Williams PO Box 16077 Surfside Beach, SC 29587 2) Core Audio PO Box 128 Shallotte, NC 28459 3) Grafx Designs PO Box 2149 Rincon, GA 31326-2149 ---------------------------------------------------------- THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO DO. When your name reaches the top in a few days, you will start receiving $5 bills from other people just like yourself, who are willing to invest a $5 bill to receive $10,000 cash. If you don't try it- you will never know. _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel