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Passwords for iptel-archive@lists.ietf.org: List Password // URL ---- -------- iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Gfcn http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/options/iptel/iptel-archive%40lists.ietf.org From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Wed Jan 3 10:07:06 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA24556 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:07:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2810344358; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:06:03 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from pelican.tk.uni-linz.ac.at (pelican.tk.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.188.41]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CDA44336 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:07:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from olibaer (olibaer.tk.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.92.45]) by pelican.tk.uni-linz.ac.at (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA10535 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:07:12 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Welzl To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 Subject: [IPTEL] Deadline extension: CFP Special session "ABR to the Internet", SCI 2001 Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/iptel/ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:14:38 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The deadline for submission of extended abstracts has been extended to January 18th. -------------------------------------------------------------------- C A L L F O R P A P E R S Special Session: ABR to the Internet ==================================== THE 5TH WORLD MULTICONFERENCE ON SYSTEMICS, CYBERNETICS AND INFORMATICS SCI'2001 July, 22-25, 2001 Orlando, Florida(USA) Sheraton World http://www.iiis.org/sci/ THE "ABR TO THE INTERNET" SESSION: ATM's "Available Bit Rate" (ABR) service provides a dramatically reduced cell loss ratio by means of a signaling mechanism called "Explicit Rate Feedback"; information from the network is provided to end nodes in order to facilitate adaptation. On the contrary, adaptive Internet applications rely on mechanisms that probe the network in order to avoid congestions; packet loss must be experienced before it can be avoided on a long term basis. Developers of commercial applications seem to avoid adaptation because they don't see enough QoS benefit. SCOPE: As a first step, we have seen ECN enhance adaptation on the Internet. We are looking for papers that represent the next step. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following questions: * What data should be provided to end nodes? * Which QoS could be achieved? * Where should the signaling take place? (end2end, edge2edge, core, ...) * How do we deal with path changes? * Can the signaling be incorporated with DiffServ, MPLS, ...? * What about fairness issues and TCP-friendliness? SUBMISSION OF PAPERS: Prospective authors are invited to submit an extended abstract (about 1.5 to 2 pages) to Michael Welzl (michael@tk.uni-linz.ac.at) in postscript, PDF or Word 97 format. English is the official language of SCI 2001, thus all papers must be submitted and presented in English. EVALUATION PROCESS: Papers will be evaluated for originality, significance, clarity, and soundness. Each paper will be refereed by several researchers in the topical area. THE CONFERENCE: SCI 2001 is an international forum for scientists and engineers, researchers and consultants, theoreticians and practitioners in the fields of Systemics, Cybernetics and Informatics. It is a forum for focused disciplinary research, as well as for multi, inter and transdiciplinary studies and projects. One of its aims is to relate disciplines fostering analogical thinking and, hence, producing input to the logical thinking. Invited Sessions with high quality papers might be selected for multiple author book publications. Two books are being published now as result of good invited sessions. IMPORTANT DATES: 18. 01. Submission of extended abstracts (1.5 - 2 pages) 16. 02. Notification of acceptance 13. 04. full papers due All accepted papers are expected to be presented at the conference. OTHER INFORMATION: It is planned to hold a BOF session on "ABR to the Internet" at a future IETF meeting; authors are invited to join this collaborative effort which may eventually be a realization of this session's topic. Further information on the BOF can be found at http://www.tk.uni-linz.ac.at/~michael/ptp SESSION CHAIR / CONTACT: Michael Welzl Telecooperation Group Dpt. of Computer Science Johannes Kepler University of Linz Altenberger Str. 69 A-4040 Linz, Austria Phone: +43 (732) 2468 - 9264 Fax: +43 (732) 2468 - 9829 E-mail: michael@tk.uni-linz.ac.at SESSION CO-CHAIR: Prof. Dr. Max Mühlhäuser TU Darmstadt - FB 20 FG Telekooperation Alexanderstrasse 6, D-64283 Darmstadt / Germany Phone: +49 (6151) 16 - 3709 Fax: +49 (6151) 16 - 3052 Refer to http://www.tk.uni-linz.ac.at/~michael/abr2internet for up-to-date information. _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Fri Jan 12 11:40:51 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA11941 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C3244367; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:41:01 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from ix.netcorps.com (ix.netcorps.com [207.1.125.106]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C3744360 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:40:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from indigosw.com (194-78-202-25.pro.turboline.skynet.be [194.78.202.25]) by ix.netcorps.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA16660 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:40:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A5F3313.BC2D78B2@indigosw.com> From: David Bertrand Organization: Indigo Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'iptel@lists.bell-labs.com'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPTEL] Question about CPL DTD Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/iptel/ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:38:43 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Should every script submitted to a CPL server contain a doctype declaration and if yes, should this exactly be: ? Thanks in advance David -- David Bertrand Software Engineer Indigo Software 50 Rue Wiertz Brussels, 1050 - Belgium Phone : +32 2 235 09 44 Fax: +32 2 280 26 76 david@indigosw.com http://www.indigosw.com _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Fri Jan 12 11:52:51 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA12227 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0B24433B; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:53:01 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from drago1.ubiquity.net (news.ubiquity.net [194.202.146.92]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A24B44337 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from gecko.ubiquity.net by drago1.ubiquity.net via smtpd (for share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 16:51:52 UT Received: from jundery.ubiquity.net by ubiquity.net with ESMTP (8.8.8+Sun/25-eef) id QAA15726; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:50:37 GMT Received: from localhost (jundery@localhost) by jundery.ubiquity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03884; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:50:36 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: jundery.ubiquity.net: jundery owned process doing -bs From: James Undery To: David Bertrand Cc: "'iptel@lists.bell-labs.com'" Subject: Re: [IPTEL] Question about CPL DTD In-Reply-To: <3A5F3313.BC2D78B2@indigosw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/iptel/ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:50:36 +0000 (GMT) On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, David Bertrand wrote: > Hi all, > > Should every script submitted to a CPL server contain a doctype > declaration and if yes, should this exactly be: "-//IETF//DTD RFCxxxx CPL 1.0//EN" "cpl.dtd"> ? In XML the document type declaration is optional and although all the examples in the internet draft contain an external reference they could just as easily contain the full DTD !! Our implementation doesn't require the document declaration as it uses an internal representation of the DTD anyway and won't accept generic XML (it's meaningless out of context). James Undery _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Sat Jan 13 15:14:54 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA19931 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F093244337; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:15:02 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from redball.dynamicsoft.com (redball.dynamicsoft.com [216.173.40.51]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A4F44336 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from DYN-EXCH-001.dynamicsoft.com ([216.173.40.50]) by redball.dynamicsoft.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id PAA03573; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:16:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by DYN-EXCH-001.dynamicsoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:10:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Rosenberg To: "'James Undery'" , David Bertrand Cc: "'iptel@lists.bell-labs.com'" Subject: RE: [IPTEL] Question about CPL DTD MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/iptel/ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:10:59 -0500 > -----Original Message----- > From: James Undery [mailto:jundery@ubiquity.net] > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:51 AM > To: David Bertrand > Cc: 'iptel@lists.bell-labs.com' > Subject: Re: [IPTEL] Question about CPL DTD > > > > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, David Bertrand wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Should every script submitted to a CPL server contain a doctype > > declaration and if yes, should this exactly be: cpl PUBLIC > > "-//IETF//DTD RFCxxxx CPL 1.0//EN" "cpl.dtd"> ? > > In XML the document type declaration is optional and although all the > examples in the internet draft contain an external reference > they could > just as easily contain the full DTD !! Our implementation > doesn't require > the document declaration as it uses an internal > representation of the DTD > anyway and won't accept generic XML (it's meaningless out of context). > > James Undery > > > _______________________________________________ > IPTEL mailing list > IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel > _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Sat Jan 13 15:18:02 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA19959 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:18:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FF84435A; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:17:01 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from redball.dynamicsoft.com (redball.dynamicsoft.com [216.173.40.51]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2C04435A for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:16:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from DYN-EXCH-001.dynamicsoft.com ([216.173.40.50]) by redball.dynamicsoft.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id PAA03605; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by DYN-EXCH-001.dynamicsoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:13:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Rosenberg To: "'James Undery'" , David Bertrand Cc: "'iptel@lists.bell-labs.com'" Subject: RE: [IPTEL] Question about CPL DTD MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/iptel/ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:13:14 -0500 (sorry about the previous incomplete response) > -----Original Message----- > From: James Undery [mailto:jundery@ubiquity.net] > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:51 AM > To: David Bertrand > Cc: 'iptel@lists.bell-labs.com' > Subject: Re: [IPTEL] Question about CPL DTD > > > > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, David Bertrand wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Should every script submitted to a CPL server contain a doctype > > declaration and if yes, should this exactly be: cpl PUBLIC > > "-//IETF//DTD RFCxxxx CPL 1.0//EN" "cpl.dtd"> ? > > In XML the document type declaration is optional and although all the > examples in the internet draft contain an external reference > they could > just as easily contain the full DTD !! Our implementation > doesn't require > the document declaration as it uses an internal > representation of the DTD > anyway and won't accept generic XML (it's meaningless out of context). Well, I'd prefer it be there in any case, since it lends context to CPL scripts. ALso, note that the format of the declaration would not be RFCxxxx; this will be replaced by the ultimate RFC number assigned to CPL. -Jonathan R. --- Jonathan D. Rosenberg 72 Eagle Rock Ave. Chief Scientist First Floor dynamicsoft East Hanover, NJ 07936 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~jdrosen PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Sun Jan 14 23:10:52 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id XAA14525 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:10:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9CA4433A; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:11:01 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from redball.dynamicsoft.com (redball.dynamicsoft.com [216.173.40.51]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5322A44336 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:10:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from DYN-EXCH-001.dynamicsoft.com ([216.173.40.50]) by redball.dynamicsoft.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id XAA01926 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by DYN-EXCH-001.dynamicsoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:07:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Rosenberg To: "'iptel@lists.bell-labs.com'" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [IPTEL] TRIP - final call for comments Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/iptel/ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:07:03 -0500 Folks, A reminder that the working group last call for TRIP: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trip-04.txt has expired. We received a few comments (IANA considerations needs more detail, and a change in the naming of the hexadecimal routing numbers to exclude F), and these will be incorporated into the next draft, due out in about a week. I wanted to give people the opportunity to use that week to get their comments in. So, please do so NOW. Thanks, Jonathan R. --- Jonathan D. Rosenberg 72 Eagle Rock Ave. Chief Scientist First Floor dynamicsoft East Hanover, NJ 07936 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~jdrosen PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Tue Jan 16 07:12:53 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA08717 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA6944343; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:13:01 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E2C44387 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 05:40:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA08163; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:40:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101161140.GAA08163@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-To: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: [IPTEL] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/iptel/ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:40:17 -0500 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Telephony Working Group of the IETF. Title : Authentication Attribute for TRIP Author(s) : J. Rosenberg, H. Salama Filename : draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt Pages : 5 Date : 15-Jan-01 This document defines a new TRIP attribute, the Authentication attribute. The Authentication attribute carries signatures for one, or more, of the attributes carried in the same UPDATE message. The purpose of these signatures is to guarantee the integrity of the data being advertised across multiple TRIP hops. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20010115092233.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20010115092233.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Tue Jan 16 09:39:52 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id JAA13169 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AF64433F; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:40:02 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.88]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F0A44336 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mira-sjcm-2.cisco.com (mira-sjcm-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.98]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA14013 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:39:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from cisco.com ([10.19.104.244]) by mira-sjcm-2.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AFB12244 (AUTH hsalama); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:39:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A645C3D.D9F958D@cisco.com> From: "Hussein F. Salama" Reply-To: hsalama@cisco.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,arabic MIME-Version: 1.0 To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Subject: Re: [IPTEL] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt References: <200101161140.GAA08163@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/iptel/ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:35:42 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A quick note. This draft is just a place holder for the authentication attribute which was removed from the TRIP protocol draft before the San Diego meeting. Hussein Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the IP Telephony Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Authentication Attribute for TRIP > Author(s) : J. Rosenberg, H. Salama > Filename : draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt > Pages : 5 > Date : 15-Jan-01 > > This document defines a new TRIP attribute, the Authentication > attribute. The Authentication attribute carries signatures for one, > or more, of the attributes carried in the same UPDATE message. The > purpose of these signatures is to guarantee the integrity of the data > being advertised across multiple TRIP hops. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username > "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, > type "cd internet-drafts" and then > "get draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt". > > A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in > http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > > Send a message to: > mailserv@ietf.org. > In the body type: > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trip-authen-00.txt". > > NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-ID: <20010115092233.I-D@ietf.org> -- Hussein F. Salama Cisco Systems Mail Stop SJC-21/3, 170 W. Tasman Drive, San Jose, CA 95134 Voice: +1 (408) 527-7147, Fax: +1 (408) 527-7147 _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Jan 25 15:26:53 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA08190 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7C04439B; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:27:01 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from drago1.ubiquity.net (news.ubiquity.net [194.202.146.92]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F65E44336 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from gecko.ubiquity.net by drago1.ubiquity.net via smtpd (for share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) with SMTP; 25 Jan 2001 20:26:04 UT Received: from jundery.ubiquity.net by ubiquity.net with ESMTP (8.8.8+Sun/25-eef) id UAA12099; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:24:52 GMT Received: from localhost (jundery@localhost) by jundery.ubiquity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04011 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:24:52 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: jundery.ubiquity.net: jundery owned process doing -bs From: James Undery To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [IPTEL] Very late observation on cpl-04 Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/iptel/ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:24:52 +0000 (GMT) Sorry this is so late The text for lookup and the DTD conflict, the DTD says yet the text implies that success should be optional too and its absence result in the default action being taken. James Undery _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Tue Jan 30 04:59:52 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA02706 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 04:59:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5A544337; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 04:00:02 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from drago1.ubiquity.net (news.ubiquity.net [194.202.146.92]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EE69544336 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from gecko.ubiquity.net by drago1.ubiquity.net via smtpd (for share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) with SMTP; 30 Jan 2001 09:59:40 UT Received: from jundery.ubiquity.net by ubiquity.net with ESMTP (8.8.8+Sun/25-eef) id JAA29874; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:58:28 GMT Received: from localhost (jundery@localhost) by jundery.ubiquity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01336 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:58:29 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: jundery.ubiquity.net: jundery owned process doing -bs From: James Undery To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [IPTEL] A bug in appendix A of cpl-04 Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/iptel/ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:58:29 +0000 (GMT) Sorry again for sending yet another late observation. The algorithm in appendix A fails to account for durations that are "negative" i.e. start with the character '-'. The simplest solution would be to disallow them, however, the changes to the algorithm are simple (!?). Step 1b If duration is negative, make it positive and subtract it from dtstart. I think this will work James Undery _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Tue Jan 30 09:50:52 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id JAA08731 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5652B44339; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:51:01 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from redball.dynamicsoft.com (redball.dynamicsoft.com [216.173.40.51]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C373F44336 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from DYN-EXCH-001.dynamicsoft.com ([216.173.40.50]) by redball.dynamicsoft.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id JAA17458; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by DYN-EXCH-001.dynamicsoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:46:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Rosenberg To: "'James Undery'" , iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Subject: RE: [IPTEL] A bug in appendix A of cpl-04 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/iptel/ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:46:26 -0500 I think negative durations are just confusing and not worth including. I'd prefer to disallow them. -Jonathan R. --- Jonathan D. Rosenberg 72 Eagle Rock Ave. Chief Scientist First Floor dynamicsoft East Hanover, NJ 07936 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~jdrosen PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com > -----Original Message----- > From: James Undery [mailto:jundery@ubiquity.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 4:58 AM > To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com > Subject: [IPTEL] A bug in appendix A of cpl-04 > > > Sorry again for sending yet another late observation. > > The algorithm in appendix A fails to account for durations that are > "negative" i.e. start with the character '-'. The simplest > solution would > be to disallow them, however, the changes to the algorithm are simple > (!?). > > Step 1b If duration is negative, make it positive and subtract it from > dtstart. > > I think this will work > > James Undery > > > _______________________________________________ > IPTEL mailing list > IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel > _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel