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Passwords for iptel-archive@lists.ietf.org: List Password // URL ---- -------- iptel@lists.bell-labs.com nexaew http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/options/iptel/iptel-archive%40lists.ietf.org From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Tue Oct 1 22:08:28 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA12470 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9220k225010; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:00:46 -0400 Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g921xh224988 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:59:43 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by dirty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g921xghN070291 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id B1402443A5; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859EB443A4 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by scummy.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g921xaI31217 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs.columbia.edu ([128.59.16.20]) by dusty; Tue Oct 1 21:59:35 EDT 2002 Received: from opus.cs.columbia.edu (opus.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.20.100]) by cs.columbia.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g921xKZC011087; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs.columbia.edu (tallgrass.netlab.uky.edu [204.198.76.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by opus.cs.columbia.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g921xH5T010270 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:59:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3D9A52CD.3080802@cs.columbia.edu> From: Henning Schulzrinne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.2a) Gecko/20020910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brett@broadsoft.com Cc: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Subject: Re: [IPTEL] rfc2806bis-05 comments: parameters and telephone-subscriber References: <001401c22f5b$32979700$2b01a8c0@broadsoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 21:58:37 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Digging through old mail... You raise a good point. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a concise way to say in RFC 2234 notation "elements A, B, and C in any order, with each appearing no more than once". There are two alternatives that I can see: - 1st option - *([A] [B] [C]) with the constraint of 'at most once' expressed outside the BNF. This is how SIP and other protocols with similar at-most-once/any-order syntax handle this. - 2nd option - [A] [B] [C] / [A] [C] [B] / [B] [A] [C] / [B] [C] [A] / etc. Clearly, the latter gets tedious very quickly. For now, I will pick the 1st option, but clever alternatives are appreciated. Brett Tate wrote: > rfc2806bis-05 BNF describes an explicit ordering > of the parameters in regards to isdn-subaddress, > context, and param. If this explicit ordering > was not intended, the BNF should be changed or > explicit text should be added to indicate that > the above parameters are not required to be > in an explicit order. > > Adding back a telephone-subscriber definition > might help accommodate the above. It would also > help in correlating rfc3261's telephone-subscriber > reference to rfc2806bis. > > -brett > > _______________________________________________ > IPTEL mailing list > IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Wed Oct 2 09:02:14 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA18183 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g92Ctq228257; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:55:52 -0400 Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g92Cs6228238 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:54:06 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by dirty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g92Cs6hN074743 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:54:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 385A2443A5; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57EE443A4 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:54:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g92Crwa39227 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com ([169.144.68.6]) by dusty; Wed Oct 2 08:53:58 EDT 2002 Received: from mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.2.12]) by mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27195; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:53:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com (whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.2.221]) by mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21243; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by whq-msgrtr-01.pit.comms.marconi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:53:48 -0400 Message-ID: <313680C9A886D511A06000204840E1CF030B59D8@whq-msgusr-02.pit.comms.marconi.com> From: "Rosen, Brian" To: "'Henning Schulzrinne'" , brett@broadsoft.com Cc: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com Subject: RE: [IPTEL] rfc2806bis-05 comments: parameters and telephone-subs criber MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:53:48 -0400 FWIW we went through this with Megaco ABNF. I asked around a lot. All I ever got was these two, and we went with option 1, although we usually used a syntax like: mumble = foo *(SPACE foo) foo = A | B | C ; at most once Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Henning Schulzrinne [mailto:hgs@cs.columbia.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:59 PM > To: brett@broadsoft.com > Cc: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com > Subject: Re: [IPTEL] rfc2806bis-05 comments: parameters and > telephone-subscriber > > > Digging through old mail... > > You raise a good point. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a > concise way to say in RFC 2234 notation "elements A, B, and C in any > order, with each appearing no more than once". There are two > alternatives that I can see: > > - 1st option - > > *([A] [B] [C]) > > with the constraint of 'at most once' expressed outside the > BNF. This is > how SIP and other protocols with similar > at-most-once/any-order syntax > handle this. > > - 2nd option - > > [A] [B] [C] / [A] [C] [B] / [B] [A] [C] / [B] [C] [A] / etc. > > Clearly, the latter gets tedious very quickly. > > For now, I will pick the 1st option, but clever alternatives are > appreciated. > > Brett Tate wrote: > > rfc2806bis-05 BNF describes an explicit ordering > > of the parameters in regards to isdn-subaddress, > > context, and param. If this explicit ordering > > was not intended, the BNF should be changed or > > explicit text should be added to indicate that > > the above parameters are not required to be > > in an explicit order. > > > > Adding back a telephone-subscriber definition > > might help accommodate the above. It would also > > help in correlating rfc3261's telephone-subscriber > > reference to rfc2806bis. > > > > -brett > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IPTEL mailing list > > IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com > > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel > > _______________________________________________ > IPTEL mailing list > IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel > _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Oct 3 18:16:18 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA06889 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g93M6o204689; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:06:50 -0400 Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g93M5E204676 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:05:14 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by dirty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g93M5EhN092042 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 6876D443A7; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453A0443A5 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g93M54a15028 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com ([171.71.163.54]) by dusty; Thu Oct 3 18:05:04 EDT 2002 Received: from mira-sjc5-4.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-4.cisco.com [171.71.163.21]) by sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g93M4uot022503; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RAJNEESH-W2K2.cisco.com (dhcp-128-107-209-171.cisco.com [128.107.209.171]) by mira-sjc5-4.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AMR31919; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20021003144711.01b5d9c0@mira-sjc5-4.cisco.com> X-Sender: rajneesh@mira-sjc5-4.cisco.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com From: Rajneesh Kumar Cc: jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com, hsalama@cisco.com, dhaval@cisco.com, manjax@cisco.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [IPTEL] TGREP draft : draft-ietf-iptel-tgrep-00.txt Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 15:04:49 -0700 Please find the latest version of the draft at : ftp://ftpeng.cisco.com/dhaval/draft-ietf-iptel-tgrep-00.txt Changes since draft-ietf-iptel-trip-gw-00.txt - Changed title of the document to TGREP (Telephony Gateway REgistration Protocol) - Changed name of protocol described in this document to TGREP - Changed Abstract and Introduction sections to position TGREP as an auxiliary protocol to TRIP (as opposed to a "subset" of TRIP) - Modified the section on LS/Proxy Behavior including the diagram - Added an additional example to the Route Consolidation section - Changed the format of Carrier (both as an attribute and as an AF) to accommodate representation of Country codes in association with CICs. - Updated text to allow Carrier attribute in TrunkGroup address family and TrunkGroup attribute in Carrier address family. Authors: Manjunath Bangalore Cisco Systems Mail Stop SJC-21/2/2 771 Alder Drive Milpitas, CA 95035 email: manjax@cisco.com Rajneesh Kumar Cisco Systems Mail Stop SJC-21/2/2 771 Alder Drive Milpitas, CA 95035 email: rajneesh@cisco.com Jonathan Rosenberg dynamicsoft 72 Eagle Rock Avenue First Floor East Hanover, NJ 07936 email: jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com Hussein F. Salama Cisco Systems Mail Stop SJC-24/3/2 170 W. Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134 email: hsalama@cisco.com Dhaval N. Shah Cisco Systems Mail Stop SJC-21/2/2 771 Alder Drive Milpitas, CA 95035 email: dhaval@cisco.com _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Fri Oct 4 23:44:07 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA29544 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g953as212585; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:36:54 -0400 Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (ns1.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g953WC212560 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:32:12 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by dirty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g953WChN004091 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 2745E443A8; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01117443A5 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g953W5a33653 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail3.dynamicsoft.com ([63.113.44.69]) by dusty; Fri Oct 4 23:32:05 EDT 2002 Received: from dynamicsoft.com ([63.113.46.85]) by mail3.dynamicsoft.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g953W3YH005059 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3D9E5D31.1090601@dynamicsoft.com> From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: list iptel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPTEL] errata in RFC 3219 Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:32:01 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, Please note that the errata in RFC 3219 that Hussein reported is now listed on the rfc-editor errata pages, http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata.html -Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 72 Eagle Rock Ave. Chief Scientist First Floor dynamicsoft East Hanover, NJ 07936 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon Oct 14 12:19:52 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA24879 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9EG1v217380; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:01:57 -0400 Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9EFvZ217347 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:57:35 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by dirty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9EFvZhN095645 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 14E72443A5; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D7D443A4 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9EFvSa04556 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com ([171.70.145.30]) by dusty; Mon Oct 14 11:57:28 EDT 2002 Received: from mira-sjc5-9.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-9.cisco.com [171.71.163.32]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9EFvQcl007245; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cj14 (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by mira-sjc5-9.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.1.0.66-GA) with SMTP id AAI11168; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:57:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Cullen Jennings" To: "IPTEL List" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Subject: [IPTEL] Agenda Items for Atlanta Meeting Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:57:43 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is time to start setting the agenda for the Atlanta meeting. If you want to discuss issues with drafts at the Atlanta meeting, please request a slot to do so, by sending mail to the WG chairs. As always the slots will be allocated for discussions according to what is outlined below. It is not the purpose of a WG session to have presentation of the content of a document. It is assumed that all attendees will have read the drafts in advance of the meeting. For documents that are work-in-progress, the presentation should cover issues resolved since the last draft followed by open issues, and controversial topics with the intent to reach a resolution of said issues and topics. For new work items, the presentation should focus on what the problem is and why it is necessary for the work group to address it. Further it must be shown how the work falls within the existing charter; no time will be allocated for proposals that do not fit the current WG charter. The solution should only be sketched. The appropriate way of bringing new work to the working group is to post an Internet Draft, send a pointer to the draft to the mailing list and promote discussion on the list. Slots on the agenda should be used to discuss outstanding topics that haven't been settled on the mailing list. In all cases only a limited number of slides should be used. Speakers should budget their at least 25% of their time to allow for discussion/questions. Thanks, Cullen _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Wed Oct 16 08:21:55 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA26645 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9GCJn229507; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:19:49 -0400 Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9GCId229494 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:18:39 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by crufty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9GCIdLI099335 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 04FE3443A6; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8171443A4 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9GCIWa87780 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.189]) by dusty; Wed Oct 16 08:18:32 EDT 2002 Received: from DIZZY2 ([64.230.3.163]) by tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with SMTP id <20021016121828.SUZX5393.tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net@DIZZY2> for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:18:28 -0400 Message-ID: <004301c2750e$43083b00$0100a8c0@DIZZY2> From: "David Zinman" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [IPTEL] [TRIP] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-04.txt Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:19:23 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Telephony Working Group of the IETF. Title : Management Information Base for Telephony Routing over IP (TRIP) Author(s) : D. Zinman, D. Walker, J. Jiang Filename : draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-04.txt Pages : 43 Date : 2002-10-14 This memo defines a portion of the MIB (Management Information Base) for use with network management protocols in the Internet community. In particular, it describes a set of managed objects that are used to manage for TRIP (Telephony Routing over IP) devices. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-04.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-04.txt". 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [IPTEL] draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-04.txt changes Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:39:53 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Changes from draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-03.txt - created a separate module, TRIP-TC for the textual conventions - changed the TC's tripSupportedProtocols and tripAddressFamilies to integers out of concern that they could very easily be larger than the 128 subId limit for indexes and to make them much more readable - removed the tripMIBAdmin subtree since it was not needed to hold any TC's that are object identifiers - actually used TripSendReceiveMode - document is up to date with latest Instructions to Request for Comments (RFC) Authors - "draft-rfc-editor-rfc2223bis-02.txt" - cleaned up some descriptions and clarified some persistency attributes _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Oct 17 01:06:55 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA21410 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:06:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9H58o201873; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:08:50 -0400 Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (ns1.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9H57r201853 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:07:53 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by dirty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9H57qhN024609 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id A97C5443A6; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A55443A4 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9H57ka69935 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail3.dynamicsoft.com ([63.113.44.69]) by dusty; Thu Oct 17 01:07:45 EDT 2002 Received: from dynamicsoft.com ([63.113.46.14]) by mail3.dynamicsoft.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g9H57LYH012225; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:07:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3DAE4587.1010908@dynamicsoft.com> From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xiaotao Wu Cc: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com, sipping@ietf.org References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [IPTEL] Re: [Sipping] FYI: new I-D on the XML Schema for Call Processing Language Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:07:19 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please lets keep discussion of this draft on the iptel list. -Jonathan R. Xiaotao Wu wrote: > Hi, all, > > The draft provides XML schema definition for CPL. You can find the draft > at: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wu-cpl-schema-00.txt > > The following is the abstract of the draft. > > Abstract > > This document provides an Extensible Markup Language (XML) Schema for > the Call Processing Language (CPL). The original CPL specification > only provides a Document Type Declaration (DTD) to describe the > structure of the language. Compared with XML DTDs, XML schemas have > many advantages such as performing stricter type checking, providing > pre-defined data types and being able to derive new data types from > existing ones. > > Thanks! > > -Xiaotao > > ========================================================= > Name : Xiaotao Wu > Email : xiaotaow@cs.columbia.edu, xw71@columbia.edu > URL : http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~xiaotaow > Phone : (212)939-7054, (212)939-7133, Fax: (801)751-0217 > SIP : sip:xiaotaow@conductor.cs.columbia.edu > Office: Room 506, Mudd building, West 120th > ========================================================= > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping > This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP > -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 72 Eagle Rock Ave. Chief Scientist First Floor dynamicsoft East Hanover, NJ 07936 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Sun Oct 20 20:15:53 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA05133 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9L08a230117; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:08:37 -0400 Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9L040230089 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:04:00 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by dirty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9L03xhN061567 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 624F2443A5; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B679D443A4 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by scummy.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9L03oI88846 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com ([171.70.145.30]) by dusty; Sun Oct 20 20:03:50 EDT 2002 Received: from mira-sjc5-9.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-9.cisco.com [171.71.163.32]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9L038cl011997; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cj14 (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by mira-sjc5-9.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.1.0.66-GA) with SMTP id AAJ89365; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Cullen Jennings" To: , , , "IPTEL List" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Subject: [IPTEL] ABNF nit in 2806bis-05 Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:03:38 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Right now draft-antti-rfc2806bis-05 reads param = ";" pname ["=" pvalue ] | pname = 1*uric | However, uric in rfc2396 includes the '=' character. Can it be changed to indicate that the pname may not include a '='? Cullen _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Sun Oct 20 20:26:17 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA05253 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9L0SV230364; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:28:31 -0400 Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (ns2.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by share.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9L0KZ230236 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:20:35 -0400 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-27-211.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.27.211]) by crufty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9L0KYLI044754 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 4BDC3443A5; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: iptel@sunny.research.bell-labs.com Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (guard.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C52443A4 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com (dusty.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.7]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9L0KRa69908 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by dusty; Sun Oct 20 20:20:27 EDT 2002 Received: from cs.columbia.edu ([12.85.5.174]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with ESMTP id <20021021002014.IHYD4213.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@cs.columbia.edu>; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:20:14 +0000 Message-ID: <3DB347DD.2060503@cs.columbia.edu> From: Henning Schulzrinne Organization: Columbia University User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings Cc: schulzrinne@cs.columbia.edu, avs@iki.fi, antti.vaha-sipila@nokia.com, IPTEL List Subject: Re: [IPTEL] ABNF nit in 2806bis-05 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:18:37 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good point; I'll change that to use the same definitions as the SIP URI. While looking at this, I also noticed that the ISDN subaddress allows uric. Shouldn't this just be the same characters that are legal for E.164 numbers or can ISDN subaddresses contain letters, say? Cullen Jennings wrote: > Right now draft-antti-rfc2806bis-05 reads > > param = ";" pname ["=" pvalue ] > | > pname = 1*uric > | > > However, uric in rfc2396 includes the '=' character. Can it be changed to > indicate that the pname may not include a '='? > > Cullen > > > _______________________________________________ > IPTEL mailing list > IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Fri Oct 25 16:27:59 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA10455 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g9PKTs428998 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:29:54 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9PKTsv28986 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:29:54 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA10437 for ; 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Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from newdev.harvard.edu ([140.247.60.212]) by dusty; Mon Oct 28 09:25:41 EST 2002 Received: (from sob@localhost) by newdev.harvard.edu (8.12.2/8.12.2) id g9SEOVSl010841; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:24:31 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Bradner Message-Id: <200210281424.g9SEOVSl010841@newdev.harvard.edu> To: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com, sip@ietf.org, sipping@ietf.org Cc: antti.vaha-sipila@nokia.com, james.yu@neustar.biz, mankin@psg.com, orit@radvision.com, schulzrinne@cs.columbia.edu Subject: [IPTEL] request for iptell to review "url" IDs Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:24:31 -0500 (EST) msg from the TSV ADs we would like the iptel WG to take on the following 3 IDs draft-antti-rfc2806bis-05.txt draft-yu-tel-url-06.txt draft-levin-iptel-h323-url-scheme-04.txt we would like the WG to review the 3 IDs to be sure that they do not conflict in the use of terminology or technology and to work with the ID authors to resolve any conflicts anyone with opinions about these IDs should join the iptel list and discuss the issues there we expect that this task will be a short term one and we can move to getting these IDs published Scott & Allison _______________________________________________ IPTEL mailing list IPTEL@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon Oct 28 09:59:46 2002 Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA12364 for ; 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Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi1.ameritech.net ([206.141.192.67]) by dusty; Mon Oct 28 10:01:36 EST 2002 Received: from repligate ([67.36.182.14]) by mailhost.chi1.ameritech.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with SMTP id <20021028150135.JLIF19775.mailhost.chi1.ameritech.net@repligate>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:01:35 -0600 Message-ID: <02f201c27e92$f589d0d0$0100a8c0@repligate> From: "Jim Fleming" To: "Scott Bradner" , , , Cc: , , , , References: <200210281424.g9SEOVSl010841@newdev.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: [IPTEL] request for iptell to review "url" IDs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: iptel-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: iptel@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:01:55 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Bradner" > > we would like the iptel WG to take on the following 3 IDs > .PHONE looks like a promising ID also... 851 matches for -PHONE http://www.domainsurfer.com/ssearch.cgi?dom=-phone.com http://root-dns.org/vuedig/vuedig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=phone&submit=Submit Analysis : Top Level Domain PHONE exists. 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