From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 17 19:42:20 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ERecW-0007fY-Ee; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:42:20 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ERecV-0007fL-2H for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:42:19 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA16281 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host50.foretec.com ([65.246.255.50] helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ERent-0000Ah-C1 for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:54:07 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ERecS-0001LQ-FD for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:42:16 -0400 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2005 16:36:34 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,225,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="353321444:sNHT24326956" Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9HNaJ9E025654 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:36:27 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:36:27 -0700 Message-ID: <7A1F1042E42D154289EF19666A8B8DA0AB6052@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> Thread-Topic: 64th IETF Agenda Thread-Index: AcXTcvnffq5asto2RsOsqSe0EN/5UgAADcNQ From: "Dhaval N. Shah \(dhaval\)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2005 23:36:27.0815 (UTC) FILETIME=[9833AB70:01C5D373] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 30ac594df0e66ffa5a93eb4c48bcb014 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org =20 Jonathan/Cullen, We'd like a 15 minute slot in the IPTEL WG meeting in the upcoming IETF to conclude any=20 open issues for TGREP to move closer towards RFC status. Thx, Dhaval and Manjunath _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 17 20:47:44 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ERfdo-0005AH-SP; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:47:44 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ERfdo-0005AC-8t for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:47:44 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA19836 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ERfpE-0001ve-73 for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:59:33 -0400 Received: from [68.165.240.35] (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9I0lkEo020559 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:47:50 -0700 Message-ID: <43544605.9030607@shockey.us> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:47:01 -0400 From: Richard Shockey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dhaval N. Shah (dhaval)" Subject: Re: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda References: <7A1F1042E42D154289EF19666A8B8DA0AB6052@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <7A1F1042E42D154289EF19666A8B8DA0AB6052@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Found to be clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7baded97d9887f7a0c7e8a33c2e3ea1b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: iptel@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Dhaval N. Shah (dhaval) wrote: > > Jonathan/Cullen, > > We'd like a 15 minute slot in the IPTEL WG meeting in the upcoming IETF > to conclude any > open issues for TGREP to move closer towards RFC status. Yea and the rest of the drafts in the pipeline as well. Cullen Jonathan, you guys need to get with the program here. > > Thx, > Dhaval and Manjunath > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683 Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or ; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Tue Oct 18 05:36:31 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ERntX-0007uQ-2R; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:36:31 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ERntV-0007uF-5E for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:36:29 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA16894 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:36:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.clb.oleane.net ([213.56.31.18]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ERo4w-0007I5-Fi for iptel@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:48:23 -0400 Received: from Pavillonquatre (upperside.rain.fr [194.206.151.59] (may be forged)) (authenticated) by smtp2.clb.oleane.net with ESMTP id j9I9Zwmt017370 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:35:59 +0200 Message-Id: <200510180935.j9I9Zwmt017370@smtp2.clb.oleane.net> From: "Chantal Ladouce" To: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:35:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcXTx1RbkwJP3uzpTrOUEFJZWb9aCg== X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6ba8aaf827dcb437101951262f69b3de Subject: [Iptel] International SIP Conference /Exhibition 2006 - Paris - France X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0478121129==" Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0478121129== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01C5D3D8.19A02710" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C5D3D8.19A02710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The International SIP conference /exhibition will be held in Paris next February 21-24, 2006. 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------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C5D3D8.19A02710-- --===============0478121129== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel --===============0478121129==-- From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Tue Oct 18 23:53:27 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ES515-000221-EB; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:53:27 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ES514-00021o-1L for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:53:26 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA17676 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ES5Ci-0005H0-A6 for iptel@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:05:29 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2005 20:53:16 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,229,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="221449462:sNHT24451326" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9J3rDUw023258; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.21.98.189 ([10.21.98.189]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:53:22 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.0.050811 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:53:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda From: Cullen Jennings To: Dhaval N Shah , Jonathan Rosenberg Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda Thread-Index: AcXTcvnffq5asto2RsOsqSe0EN/5UgAADcNQADtb004= In-Reply-To: <7A1F1042E42D154289EF19666A8B8DA0AB6052@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Hi Dhaval, Unfortunately we did not request any agenda time. Jonathan and I did think (or did not realize) that there were any open issues that could not be solved on the list. My notes have that the major open issue is that we need to massage the draft to make it a profile of TRIP instead of a different protocol. Are there other issues? Can we sort them out on the list? Any estimate of when we might get the next revision? The current one is from 2001 Cullen On 10/17/05 4:36 PM, "Dhaval N. Shah (dhaval)" wrote: > > Jonathan/Cullen, > > We'd like a 15 minute slot in the IPTEL WG meeting in the upcoming IETF > to conclude any > open issues for TGREP to move closer towards RFC status. > > Thx, > Dhaval and Manjunath > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Tue Oct 18 23:55:50 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ES53N-0002Vf-TU; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:55:49 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ES53M-0002Va-DQ for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:55:48 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA17731 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:55:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ES5F1-0005Jd-NX for iptel@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:07:51 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2005 20:55:39 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,229,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="221449897:sNHT27005176" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9J3taUw023653; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.21.98.189 ([10.21.98.189]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:55:45 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.0.050811 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:55:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda From: Cullen Jennings To: Richard Shockey , Dhaval N Shah , Jonathan Rosenberg Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda Thread-Index: AcXUYPV1NEJYjkBUEdqopgARJEEJ/A== In-Reply-To: <43544605.9030607@shockey.us> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org On 10/17/05 5:47 PM, "Richard Shockey" wrote: > > Yea and the rest of the drafts in the pipeline as well. > Cullen Jonathan, you guys need to get with the program here. That's a fair comment - Richard is right. I will provide a status report of where we are with everything by the end of next week. Cullen _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Wed Oct 19 00:00:24 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ES57o-0004ZP-K0; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:00:24 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ES57m-0004ZJ-RR for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:00:22 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA17906 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ES5JR-0005P8-5d for iptel@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:12:26 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2005 21:00:12 -0700 Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9J409Uw024386; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.21.98.189 ([10.21.98.189]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:00:18 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.0.050811 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:00:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda From: Cullen Jennings To: Dhaval N Shah , Jonathan Rosenberg Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda Thread-Index: AcXTcvnffq5asto2RsOsqSe0EN/5UgAADcNQADtb004AAD391Q== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 69a74e02bbee44ab4f8eafdbcedd94a1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org GACK - excuse my typo below. On 10/18/05 8:53 PM, "Cullen Jennings" wrote: > > Hi Dhaval, > > Unfortunately we did not request any agenda time. Jonathan and I did think (or > did not realize) that there were any open issues that could not be solved on > the list. My notes have that the major open issue is that we need to massage > the draft to make it a profile of TRIP instead of a different protocol. Are > there other issues? Can we sort them out on the list? Any estimate of when we > might get the next revision? The current one is from 2001 The current one is from July 2006. I don't know what I was looking at. > > Cullen > > > > > On 10/17/05 4:36 PM, "Dhaval N. Shah (dhaval)" wrote: > >> >> Jonathan/Cullen, >> >> We'd like a 15 minute slot in the IPTEL WG meeting in the upcoming IETF >> to conclude any >> open issues for TGREP to move closer towards RFC status. >> >> Thx, >> Dhaval and Manjunath >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Iptel mailing list >> Iptel@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 27 12:42:40 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVAps-0003iR-OV; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:42:40 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVApq-0003i4-UL for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:42:38 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA14074 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVB3D-00035d-N6 for iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:56:30 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2005 09:42:27 -0700 Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9RGgN8k012520 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.21.145.33 ([10.21.145.33]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:42:57 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:35:46 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: "iptel@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: idnits in draft-ietf-iptel-tgrep-06 Thread-Index: AcXbFHsJuZY+xEcHEdqu9QARJEEJ/A== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Iptel] idnits in draft-ietf-iptel-tgrep-06 X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org idnits 1.74 iptel/draft-ietf-iptel-tgrep/draft-ietf-iptel-tgrep-06.txt: Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html: Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate... the boilerplate looks good. * There are 43 instances of too long lines in the document, the longest one being 22 characters in excess of 72. Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt: Nothing found here (but these checks do not cover all of 1id-guidelines.txt yet). Miscellaneous warnings: - Line 400 has weird spacing: '...s to be deter...' - Line 463 has weird spacing: '...refixes that...' - Line 468 has weird spacing: '...ges may be re...' - Line 549 has weird spacing: '...nkgroup for t...' - Line 659 has weird spacing: '...anaging that ...' - (2 more instances...) _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 27 12:42:43 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVApv-0003k5-6l; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:42:43 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVApr-0003i9-Q0 for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:42:40 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA14081 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVB3G-00035d-As for iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:56:30 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2005 09:42:31 -0700 Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9RGgN8o012520 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.21.145.33 ([10.21.145.33]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:42:58 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:40:14 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: "iptel@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 Thread-Index: AcXbFRrHWThPskcIEdqu9QARJEEJ/A== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org idnits 1.73 (17 Jun 2005) draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01.txt: Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html: Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate... * The document seems to lack an RFC 3978 Section 5.1 IPR Disclosure Acknowledgement. (The document uses RFC 3667 boilerplate or RFC 3978-like boilerplate instead of verbatim RFC 3978 boilerplate. After 6 May 2005, submission of drafts without verbatim RFC 3978 boilerplate is not accepted.) _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 27 12:42:43 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVApv-0003kh-R6; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:42:43 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVApr-0003iA-Qv for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:42:40 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA14080 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVB3F-00035f-BH for iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:56:30 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2005 09:42:29 -0700 Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9RGgN8m012520 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.21.145.33 ([10.21.145.33]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:42:57 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:36:54 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: "iptel@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np/draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07 Thread-Index: AcXbFKOR4iGx/EcHEdqu9QARJEEJ/A== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np/draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07 X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org iptel/draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np/draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07.txt: Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html: * The document seems to lack an IANA Considerations section. Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate... * The document seems to lack an RFC 3978 Section 5.1 IPR Disclosure Acknowledgement -- however, there's a paragraph with a matching beginning. Boilerplate error? Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt: Nothing found here (but these checks do not cover all of 1id-guidelines.txt yet). Miscellaneous warnings: None. _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 27 12:52:57 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVAzp-0000zr-Dy; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:52:57 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVAzn-0000vO-B0 for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:52:55 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15102 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVBDB-0003aj-9v for iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:06:46 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2005 09:52:45 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,259,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="224564758:sNHT32863568" Received: from vtg-um-e2k5.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k5.cisco.com [171.70.93.73]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9RGqgUw005109; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:52:41 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda Thread-Index: AcXTcvnffq5asto2RsOsqSe0EN/5UgAADcNQADtb004BrU66QA== From: "Bangalore, Manjunath" To: "Jennings, Cullen" , "Dhaval N Shah" , "Jonathan Rosenberg" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f4c2cf0bccc868e4cc88dace71fb3f44 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: iptel@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Cullen, I just wanted to confirm that there are no other open issues besides positioning TGREP as a profile of TRIP. We have addressed all other feedback that was received when it was put out for WGLC sometime ago. Can we get some assistance from yourself and Jonathan in addressing this one item? Regards, -Manjax =20 -----Original Message----- From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Cullen Jennings Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:53 PM To: Dhaval N Shah; Jonathan Rosenberg Cc: iptel@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda=20 Hi Dhaval,=20 Unfortunately we did not request any agenda time. Jonathan and I did think (or did not realize) that there were any open issues that could not be solved on the list. My notes have that the major open issue is that we need to massage the draft to make it a profile of TRIP instead of a different protocol. Are there other issues? Can we sort them out on the list? Any estimate of when we might get the next revision? The current one is from 2001 Cullen On 10/17/05 4:36 PM, "Dhaval N. Shah (dhaval)" wrote: > =20 > Jonathan/Cullen, >=20 > We'd like a 15 minute slot in the IPTEL WG meeting in the upcoming=20 > IETF to conclude any open issues for TGREP to move closer towards RFC=20 > status. >=20 > Thx, > Dhaval and Manjunath >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 27 13:18:06 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVBOA-0000up-Lo; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:18:06 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVBO7-0000uf-Gi for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:18:05 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16660 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:17:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.oefeg.at ([62.47.121.5]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVBbV-0004N7-QP for iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:31:55 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5DB1A.DF0CF7AE" Subject: Re: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:21:30 +0200 Message-ID: <32755D354E6B65498C3BD9FD496C7D462C463A@oefeg-s04.oefeg.loc> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes Thread-Topic: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 Thread-Index: AcXbFRrHWThPskcIEdqu9QARJEEJ/AABOMyb From: "Stastny Richard" To: "Cullen Jennings" , , X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1094b1c84fa6e846d476f39271f5074f Cc: X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DB1A.DF0CF7AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now this is very curious =20 are you talking about -01 or -02? =20 Lawrence sent in a draft -02 on 14.9 which never showed up (as I saw now) as far as I know Lawrence is normally checking the idnits before =20 Richard =20 ________________________________ Von: iptel-bounces@ietf.org im Auftrag von Cullen Jennings Gesendet: Do 27.10.2005 18:40 An: iptel@ietf.org Betreff: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 idnits 1.73 (17 Jun 2005) draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01.txt: Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html: Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate... * The document seems to lack an RFC 3978 Section 5.1 IPR Disclosure Acknowledgement. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DB1A.DF0CF7AE-- From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 27 14:30:36 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVCWK-0004VI-OZ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:30:36 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVCWJ-0004VD-NY for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:30:35 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA21270 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVCji-0006iZ-JL for iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:44:27 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2005 11:30:25 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,259,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="224596991:sNHT59456608" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9RIUM8k024574; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:28:29 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 Thread-Index: AcXbFRrHWThPskcIEdqu9QARJEEJ/AABOMybAAKPKgE= From: "Jennings, Cullen" To: "Stastny Richard" , , X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3e15cc4fdc61d7bce84032741d11c8e5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org I was looking at 01 - I wonder what happened to the 02. Could you please = post a copy of the 02 somewhere and mail a link to the list or send me a = copy and I can post it somewhere. Or just send a copy to the list.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Stastny Richard [mailto:Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at] Sent: Thu 10/27/2005 10:21 AM To: Jennings, Cullen; iptel@ietf.org; lconroy@insensate.co.uk Subject: Re: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 =20 Now this is very curious =20 are you talking about -01 or -02? =20 Lawrence sent in a draft -02 on 14.9 which never showed up (as I saw now) as far as I know Lawrence is normally checking the idnits before =20 Richard =20 ________________________________ Von: iptel-bounces@ietf.org im Auftrag von Cullen Jennings Gesendet: Do 27.10.2005 18:40 An: iptel@ietf.org Betreff: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 idnits 1.73 (17 Jun 2005) draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01.txt: Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html: Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate... * The document seems to lack an RFC 3978 Section 5.1 IPR Disclosure Acknowledgement. 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After 6 May = 2005, submission of drafts without verbatim RFC 3978 boilerplate is not accepted.) _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 27 15:56:42 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVDre-0000jk-LM; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:56:42 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVDrd-0000jS-M7 for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:56:41 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA26268 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.207]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVE4x-000132-PD for Iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:10:34 -0400 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so19475wxd for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:56:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gQ8VslgnN+p74AUzNwyef04JmxaRm5U1O5zwMf+gj9HPJWMr7IPXgHbDHJWPTwHOMvf7O7LTUR9VE+EN/i7UNAtTnmQUuQSqyAfB/s2ggbtvREL02n3kZYSzgEc9a3dBFt1g8uOX0PPzIxoGX45pDwMN6QPo+kawuiqKHIDdGOY= Received: by 10.65.206.14 with SMTP id i14mr1987144qbq; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.84? ( [80.203.80.55]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13sm1661351qba.2005.10.27.12.56.27; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <436130AB.7030704@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:55:23 +0200 From: Mats Karlsson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: nb, no, nn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Iptel@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: [Iptel] Could the charter for this group cover an proposal for "Provisioning of user agents" ? X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I'm new here and would ask a open question about a standard for provisioning of user agents. On of the question that some customer is pointing to is the Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) and in that every vendors UA's has different provisioning methods in both transport (TFTP, HTTP, FTP) and file format (XML, plain text files) and so on. Is this something could be covered by the IPtel WG or is there another WG that has/should have responsibility for ? Kind regards Mats Karlsson _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 27 16:36:07 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVETm-0002KX-Td; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:36:06 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVETl-0002Ju-26 for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:36:05 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA13345 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:35:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.oefeg.at ([62.47.121.5]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVEh9-0007RY-1O for iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:49:57 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5DB36.85CF231F" Subject: Re: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:36:44 +0200 Message-ID: <32755D354E6B65498C3BD9FD496C7D462C463C@oefeg-s04.oefeg.loc> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes Thread-Topic: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 Thread-Index: AcXbFRrHWThPskcIEdqu9QARJEEJ/AABOMybAAKPKgEABHqW4g== From: "Stastny Richard" To: "Jennings, Cullen" , , X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8eeb555810cda1f2c5989480370dc4ca Cc: X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DB36.85CF231F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought I attached it already in the previous mail Richard =20 ________________________________ Von: Jennings, Cullen [mailto:fluffy@cisco.com] Gesendet: Do 27.10.2005 20:28 An: Stastny Richard; iptel@ietf.org; lconroy@insensate.co.uk Betreff: RE: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 I was looking at 01 - I wonder what happened to the 02. Could you please = post a copy of the 02 somewhere and mail a link to the list or send me a = copy and I can post it somewhere. Or just send a copy to the list. -----Original Message----- From: Stastny Richard [mailto:Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at] Sent: Thu 10/27/2005 10:21 AM To: Jennings, Cullen; iptel@ietf.org; lconroy@insensate.co.uk Subject: Re: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 Now this is very curious are you talking about -01 or -02? Lawrence sent in a draft -02 on 14.9 which never showed up (as I saw now) as far as I know Lawrence is normally checking the idnits before Richard ________________________________ Von: iptel-bounces@ietf.org im Auftrag von Cullen Jennings Gesendet: Do 27.10.2005 18:40 An: iptel@ietf.org Betreff: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 idnits 1.73 (17 Jun 2005) draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01.txt: Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html: Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate... * The document seems to lack an RFC 3978 Section 5.1 IPR Disclosure Acknowledgement. (The document uses RFC 3667 boilerplate or RFC 3978-like boilerplate instead of verbatim RFC 3978 boilerplate. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DB36.85CF231F-- From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 27 16:59:06 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVEq2-0008Q7-2H; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:59:06 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVEq0-0008Q2-Ge for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:59:04 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA16989 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com ([64.102.122.148]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVF3Q-0000a8-ND for Iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:12:58 -0400 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com ([64.102.124.13]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2005 13:58:54 -0700 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,259,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="14043751:sNHT24018724" Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9RKw8FK024788; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.38]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:58:51 -0400 Received: from [161.44.55.174] ([161.44.55.174]) by xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:58:51 -0400 Message-ID: <43613F8B.6040305@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:58:51 -0400 From: Jonathan Rosenberg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mats Karlsson Subject: Re: [Iptel] Could the charter for this group cover an proposal for "Provisioning of user agents" ? References: <436130AB.7030704@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <436130AB.7030704@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2005 20:58:51.0480 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BEAF580:01C5DB39] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Iptel@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org There is work on provisioning of SIP user agents within the sipping group. See: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-config-framework-07.txt -Jonathan R. Mats Karlsson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new here and would ask a open question about a standard for > provisioning of user agents. > > On of the question that some customer is pointing to is the Total Cost > of Ownership (TCO) and in that every vendors UA's has different > provisioning methods in both transport (TFTP, HTTP, FTP) and file format > (XML, plain text files) and so on. > > Is this something could be covered by the IPtel WG or is there another > WG that has/should have responsibility for ? > > > > Kind regards > Mats Karlsson > > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza Director, Service Provider VoIP Architecture Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711 Cisco Systems jdrosen@cisco.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.cisco.com _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 27 21:12:31 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVInH-0008Ag-9L; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:12:31 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVInG-0008Ab-6b for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:12:30 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA09306 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.192]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVJ0h-00026f-LM for Iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:26:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so213179wra for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:12:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V5cygyrFqdiFoiHVjsZSx4sGOCkthmRuflFKS+ZdoESDxs00axjmXmPLpOKJPltsSlgZRXuM7JSRL3/M5oq6VwE7dG/UQpDMA25vrnQtdsfsskpm5Sb4oLkGZeOyDgbAMihUfqebHhlzett0GaAOtbLOgjT4VeibdPOfxHuFv3s= Received: by 10.54.110.1 with SMTP id i1mr1344965wrc; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.84? ( [80.203.80.55]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d75sm1058470wra.2005.10.27.18.12.25; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <43617AB9.4090206@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 03:11:21 +0200 From: Mats Karlsson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: nb, no, nn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Rosenberg Subject: Re: [Iptel] Could the charter for this group cover an proposal for "Provisioning of user agents" ? References: <436130AB.7030704@gmail.com> <43613F8B.6040305@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <43613F8B.6040305@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b30eb7682a596edff707698f4a80f7d Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Iptel@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Thx Jonathan and Mike for the excellent service, I will head over to the right group and involve myself in the draft. Kind regards Mats Jonathan Rosenberg skrev: > There is work on provisioning of SIP user agents within the sipping > group. See: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-config-framework-07.txt > > > -Jonathan R. > > Mats Karlsson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm new here and would ask a open question about a standard for >> provisioning of user agents. >> >> On of the question that some customer is pointing to is the Total Cost >> of Ownership (TCO) and in that every vendors UA's has different >> provisioning methods in both transport (TFTP, HTTP, FTP) and file format >> (XML, plain text files) and so on. >> >> Is this something could be covered by the IPtel WG or is there another >> WG that has/should have responsibility for ? >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> Mats Karlsson > _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Fri Oct 28 06:03:57 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVR5Z-0003xJ-PX; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:03:57 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVR5X-0003su-Et for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:03:55 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA05006 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 213-152-49-123.dsl.eclipse.net.uk ([213.152.49.123] helo=norman.insensate.co.uk) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVRJ4-00007Q-A5 for iptel@ietf.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:17:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by norman.insensate.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614CD7314E; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:03:08 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6E812970-9C29-443B-9B20-85767B814FF9@insensate.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lconroy Subject: Re: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:03:07 +0100 To: "Jennings, Cullen" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b280b4db656c3ca28dd62e5e0b03daa8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: iptel@ietf.org, Stastny Richard X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Hi Cullen, folks, Sorry about that chaps. Eye off the ball here. Repeat after me - "Do not Assume". I just checked by mail server logs, and it seems to have fallen into a black hole in transit - there's no report of rejection at my end, but I didn't receive the auto-confirm, so something strange must have happened. I will re-send to I-D when we come out of shadow. For now, Richard has sent a copy to the list. For filling up your mailboxes, my apologies. Re. id-nits: this is generated from XML using the latest version (at the point of generation) of XML2RFC, so it won't have nits. all the best, Lawrence On 27 Oct 2005, at 19:28, Jennings, Cullen wrote: > > I was looking at 01 - I wonder what happened to the 02. Could you > please post a copy of the 02 somewhere and mail a link to the list > or send me a copy and I can post it somewhere. Or just send a copy > to the list. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stastny Richard [mailto:Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at] > Sent: Thu 10/27/2005 10:21 AM > To: Jennings, Cullen; iptel@ietf.org; lconroy@insensate.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 > > Now this is very curious > > are you talking about -01 or -02? > > Lawrence sent in a draft -02 on 14.9 which never showed up > (as I saw now) > as far as I know Lawrence is normally checking the idnits before > > Richard > > > ________________________________ > > Von: iptel-bounces@ietf.org im Auftrag von Cullen Jennings > Gesendet: Do 27.10.2005 18:40 > An: iptel@ietf.org > Betreff: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 > > > > > idnits 1.73 (17 Jun 2005) > > draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01.txt: > > > Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html: > Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate... > * The document seems to lack an RFC 3978 Section 5.1 IPR Disclosure > Acknowledgement. > (The document uses RFC 3667 boilerplate or RFC 3978-like > boilerplate instead of verbatim RFC 3978 boilerplate. After 6 > May 2005, > submission of drafts without verbatim RFC 3978 boilerplate is not > accepted.) > > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > > > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 12:33:38 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVteD-000529-Tj; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:33:37 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVteB-0004xz-KV for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:33:36 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA09645 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVtrz-0007xM-Pf for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:47:52 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 09:33:26 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,266,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="225274409:sNHT698220396" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9TGXKUw025093; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.82.209.156 ([10.82.209.156]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:33:52 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:33:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 From: Cullen Jennings To: lconroy Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 Thread-Index: AcXcpnemthxWokiZEdqp2AARJEEJ/A== In-Reply-To: <6E812970-9C29-443B-9B20-85767B814FF9@insensate.co.uk> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5011df3e2a27abcc044eaa15befcaa87 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" , Stastny Richard X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Ok, I'm pretty sure I have tracked down what happened to this. The IPR statement is wrong and it was rejected. It looks like it has the 3667 IPR boiler plate and it needs the 3978. Anything submitted after last May without the 3978 has been rejected. Check you xml has ipr="full3978". Run idnits. XML2RFC will generate many things that contain all kinds of problems including lines too wide, invalid characters, and bad IPR. >From a review point of view, it looks like there is no difference from the 01 version to the 02 version that got mailed to the list. Is that correct? On 10/28/05 3:03 AM, "lconroy" wrote: > Hi Cullen, folks, > Sorry about that chaps. Eye off the ball here. Repeat after me - > "Do not Assume". > I just checked by mail server logs, and it seems to have fallen into > a black hole in transit - there's no report of rejection at my end, > but I didn't receive the auto-confirm, so something strange must have > happened. > I will re-send to I-D when we come out of shadow. > For now, Richard has sent a copy to the list. For filling up your > mailboxes, my apologies. > > Re. id-nits: this is generated from XML using the latest version (at > the point of generation) of XML2RFC, so it won't have nits. > > all the best, > Lawrence > > On 27 Oct 2005, at 19:28, Jennings, Cullen wrote: > >> >> I was looking at 01 - I wonder what happened to the 02. Could you >> please post a copy of the 02 somewhere and mail a link to the list >> or send me a copy and I can post it somewhere. Or just send a copy >> to the list. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stastny Richard [mailto:Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at] >> Sent: Thu 10/27/2005 10:21 AM >> To: Jennings, Cullen; iptel@ietf.org; lconroy@insensate.co.uk >> Subject: Re: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 >> >> Now this is very curious >> >> are you talking about -01 or -02? >> >> Lawrence sent in a draft -02 on 14.9 which never showed up >> (as I saw now) >> as far as I know Lawrence is normally checking the idnits before >> >> Richard >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Von: iptel-bounces@ietf.org im Auftrag von Cullen Jennings >> Gesendet: Do 27.10.2005 18:40 >> An: iptel@ietf.org >> Betreff: [Iptel] idnits draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01 >> >> >> >> >> idnits 1.73 (17 Jun 2005) >> >> draft-ietf-iptel-tel-enumdi-01.txt: >> >> >> Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html: >> Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate... >> * The document seems to lack an RFC 3978 Section 5.1 IPR Disclosure >> Acknowledgement. >> (The document uses RFC 3667 boilerplate or RFC 3978-like >> boilerplate instead of verbatim RFC 3978 boilerplate. After 6 >> May 2005, >> submission of drafts without verbatim RFC 3978 boilerplate is not >> accepted.) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Iptel mailing list >> Iptel@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Iptel mailing list >> Iptel@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >> _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 14:25:20 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVvOK-0005bO-2r; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:25:20 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVvOJ-0005bI-2K for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:25:19 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA16161 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVvc8-0002kn-5d for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:39:36 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 11:25:07 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,266,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="225286845:sNHT22461692" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9TIP7Uw011959; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.82.209.156 ([10.82.209.156]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:25:37 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:25:04 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: "iptel@ietf.org" , James Yu Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Sending draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np to IESG Thread-Index: AcXcthS8U1+28kipEdqp2AARJEEJ/A== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Richard Shockey Subject: [Iptel] Sending draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np to IESG X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org I reviewed this and would like one other person to do a careful NITS review of of draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07 and send any typos to James and list. Can someone please volunteer for this. Once James submits a new version I plan to submit this to IESG the day it gets in the drafts directory which could be as early as Nov 7. This was already WGLC and the comments from WGLC were incorporated. Cullen _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 14:25:51 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVvOp-0005hP-NW; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:25:51 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVvOo-0005hD-0B for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:25:50 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA16196 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVvcd-0002lH-6x for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:40:07 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 11:25:41 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,266,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="225286940:sNHT25229320" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9TIPeUw012044; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.82.209.156 ([10.82.209.156]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:26:09 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:25:36 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: Cullen Jennings , "iptel@ietf.org" , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Trivial NITs in draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np/draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07 Thread-Index: AcXbFKOR4iGx/EcHEdqu9QARJEEJ/ABoYQ+T In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 69a74e02bbee44ab4f8eafdbcedd94a1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Richard Shockey Subject: [Iptel] Trivial NITs in draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np/draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07 X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org The BNF should also state that it modifies the RFC 3966 ABNF to change the par rule to par = parameter / cic / npdi / rn / extension / isdn-subaddress I did check and compile the ABNF. The phonedigit rule is not used and we should remove it. The IPR boiler plate will be rejected. Page 3, para 3, "Hexadecimal digit is" -> "Hexadecimal digits are" For comments above, I think we need to deal with by either fixing or clearing me up on why they are OK as is... The comments below this are just some personal preferences as an individual contributor but certainly not something I would hold the document up over if the author had considered them and did not feel they should be changed. I think you should define the term "release" in the Abbreviations or Conventions section. I personally find the sentence on page 3 para 6 confusing. It says "For a "local-cic", the CIC value in the "cic" parameter MUST be interpreted according to the "cic-context". For example, if the national CIC value is in the "cic" parameter, the "cic-context" SHALL contain a valid E.164 country code after "+" if it is in the "global-hex-digits" format. " Could we make this clearer - What odes "MUST be interpreted according to ..." actually mean. I'm having a hard time coming up with alternative text here but perhaps some can take a stab at it. _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 16:18:55 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVx4u-0007LE-79; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:13:24 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVx4r-0007IF-OD for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:13:21 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA22492 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVxIg-0006GP-Qj for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:27:40 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 13:13:11 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,266,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="225297012:sNHT23178284" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9TKD48k022306; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.82.209.156 ([10.82.209.156]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:13:41 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:13:09 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: "iptel@ietf.org" , Jonathan Rosenberg Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Do we need an IANA registry for tel parameters Thread-Index: AcXcxS4ZbJY1hki4Edqp2AARJEEJ/A== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 30ac594df0e66ffa5a93eb4c48bcb014 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: [Iptel] Do we need an IANA registry for tel parameters X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org We decided long ago that we needed one and put the creation of it in the trunk-group draft. However, in tel-np draft we decided not to have a registry. I don't particularly care one way or the other but I think we need to be consistent on this. What do folks think? Is there some part of this I am forgetting? Thanks, Cullen _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 16:18:55 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVx7e-0007zn-RM; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:16:14 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVx7b-0007zF-8t for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:16:11 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA22598 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVxLQ-0006KJ-BT for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:30:29 -0400 Received: from [68.165.240.35] (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9TKGadD027160 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:16:40 -0700 Message-ID: <4363D877.8080401@shockey.us> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:15:51 -0400 From: Richard Shockey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings Subject: Re: [Iptel] Sending draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np to IESG References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Found to be clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 69a74e02bbee44ab4f8eafdbcedd94a1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" , Alexander Mayrhofer , James Yu X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Cullen Jennings wrote: > I reviewed this and would like one other person to do a careful NITS review > of of draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07 and send any typos to James and list. Can > someone please volunteer for this. Sure .. I'll ask Alex Mayrhofer to take a look at it ASAP he's now ENUM WG Secretary and Patrik and I are having him run the NITS review on all our documents. > > Once James submits a new version I plan to submit this to IESG the day it > gets in the drafts directory which could be as early as Nov 7. This was > already WGLC and the comments from WGLC were incorporated. > > Cullen > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683 Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or ; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 16:18:59 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVx8g-0008MH-QN; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:17:18 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVx8e-0008Lz-DR for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:17:16 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA22672 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVxMT-0006M6-Kj for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:31:34 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 13:17:06 -0700 Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9TKH6Uw006563; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.82.209.156 ([10.82.209.156]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:17:36 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:17:03 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: "iptel@ietf.org" , "Vijay K. Gurbani" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Trunk group requirements Thread-Index: AcXcxbmS+GSns0i4Edqp2AARJEEJ/A== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6d62ab47271805379d7172ee693a45db Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: [Iptel] Trunk group requirements X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org What do people think about the idea moving moving section 4 to an appendix? Cullen (not as chair) _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 16:19:10 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVxAU-0000J4-6U; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:19:10 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVxAS-0000Iz-56 for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:19:08 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA22757 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVxOG-0006PB-CU for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:33:26 -0400 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 13:18:56 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,266,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="670387178:sNHT21220692" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9TKIs94016906; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.82.209.156 ([10.82.209.156]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:19:27 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:18:54 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: "iptel@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Volunteer for nits review of trunk group Thread-Index: AcXcxfu8OjTXuEi5Edqp2AARJEEJ/A== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0f1ff0b0158b41ac6b9548d0972cdd31 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Richard Shockey Subject: [Iptel] Volunteer for nits review of trunk group X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org We need someone to do a nits review of trunk group. Any takers? _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 16:23:56 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVxF6-0002GY-3o; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:23:56 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVxF4-0002GQ-3H for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:23:54 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA22959 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVxSu-0006Wp-Bf for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:38:12 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 13:23:45 -0700 Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9TKNiUw007633; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.82.209.156 ([10.82.209.156]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:24:14 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:23:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [Iptel] Sending draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np to IESG From: Cullen Jennings To: Richard Shockey Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] Sending draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np to IESG Thread-Index: AcXcxqdl5ecp3Ei5Edqp2AARJEEJ/A== In-Reply-To: <4363D877.8080401@shockey.us> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7a6398bf8aaeabc7a7bb696b6b0a2aad Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" , Alexander Mayrhofer , James Yu X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org On 10/29/05 1:15 PM, "Richard Shockey" wrote: >> I reviewed this and would like one other person to do a careful NITS review >> of of draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07 and send any typos to James and list. Can >> someone please volunteer for this. > > Sure .. I'll ask Alex Mayrhofer to take a look at it ASAP he's now ENUM > WG Secretary and Patrik and I are having him run the NITS review on all > our documents. That would be great. Thank you Alex. I suspect given the amount of review this has had that it should not take him long. _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 16:31:57 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVxMr-0005o5-4B; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:31:57 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVxMo-0005nU-Jn; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:31:54 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA23290; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVxac-0006kG-KB; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:46:13 -0400 Received: from [68.165.240.35] (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9TKWArL028351 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:32:17 -0700 Message-ID: <4363DC1D.6090705@shockey.us> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:31:25 -0400 From: Richard Shockey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings Subject: Re: [Iptel] Do we need an IANA registry for tel parameters References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Found to be clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by sb7.songbird.com id j9TKWArL028351 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 244a2fd369eaf00ce6820a760a3de2e8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" , "'enum@ietf.org'" X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Cullen Jennings wrote: > We decided long ago that we needed one and put the creation of it in th= e > trunk-group draft. However, in tel-np draft we decided not to have a > registry. I don't particularly care one way or the other but I think we= need > to be consistent on this. >=20 > What do folks think? Is there some part of this I am forgetting? Yep times change and IMHO you need a TEL orinented registry if for no=20 other reason some of us want to eventually append a TEL or a SIP URI=20 with other static SS7 paramaters like ;CNAM=3DGeorge W Bush etc. GTT you= =20 name it. Those parameters need to be defined and registered. This btw is the fundamental thrust of my and Jason Livingood's draft Title : IANA Registration for an Enumservice Containing PSTN Signaling=20 Information Author(s) : J. Livingood, R. Shockey Filename : draft-ietf-enum-pstn-00.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2005-10-28 =09 This document registers the Enumservice =93pstn=94 and subtype =93tel=94 using the URI scheme =91tel:=92, as well as the subtype =93sip=94 usi= ng the URI scheme =91sip=92 as per the IANA registration process defined in = the ENUM specification, RFC 3761. This data is used to facilitate the routing of telephone calls in those countries where Number Portability exists. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-pstn-00.txt >=20 > Thanks, Cullen >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >=20 --=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683 Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or ; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 16:32:26 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVxNJ-0005w6-Vd; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:32:25 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVxNH-0005vL-60 for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:32:23 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA23325 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVxb6-0006lU-Bb for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:46:41 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 13:32:12 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,266,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="225299470:sNHT23253620" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9TKW9Uw009249; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.82.209.156 ([10.82.209.156]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:32:40 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:32:08 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: "iptel@ietf.org" , Richard Shockey , Stastny Richard , Lawrence Conroy Message-ID: Thread-Topic: One more trivial NIT on iptel-tel-enumdi-02 Thread-Index: AcXcx9T+E51h4Ui7Edqp2AARJEEJ/A== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: [Iptel] One more trivial NIT on iptel-tel-enumdi-02 X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org The BNF does not add the enumdi to the par rule in the tel RFC. And the IANA registry question would also impact this. I'm also wondering if I am nuts thinking that the we need to say that this draft updates the par line. It makes sense to me but if others think this is not needed - let me know I am nuts. Can we also get someone to do a NITS review of this draft. It the review was already done in the ENUM group then I am happy to skip it. Cullen PS - might be nice to have the in the XML _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 16:43:01 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVxXZ-0001FW-CJ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:43:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EVxXX-0001EV-Ia for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:42:59 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA23885 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EVxlM-00072r-SD for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:57:18 -0400 Received: from [68.165.240.35] (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9TKhC5A029129 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:43:16 -0700 Message-ID: <4363DEB3.3080304@shockey.us> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:42:27 -0400 From: Richard Shockey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings Subject: Re: [Iptel] One more trivial NIT on iptel-tel-enumdi-02 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Found to be clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" , Stastny Richard , Lawrence Conroy , Alexander Mayrhofer X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Cullen Jennings wrote: > The BNF does not add the enumdi to the par rule in the tel RFC. And the IANA > registry question would also impact this. > > I'm also wondering if I am nuts thinking that the we need to say that this > draft updates the par line. It makes sense to me but if others think this is > not needed - let me know I am nuts. > > Can we also get someone to do a NITS review of this draft. It the review was > already done in the ENUM group then I am happy to skip it. Let me ask Alex on this as well. > Cullen > > PS - might be nice to have the > > in the XML > > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683 Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or ; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 19:55:03 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EW0XP-0002dN-Nl; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:55:03 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EW0XO-0002cv-E9 for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:55:02 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA01357 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EW0lF-00030z-GK for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:09:22 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 16:54:52 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,266,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="225318252:sNHT25766976" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9TNsnUw009610; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.82.209.5 ([10.82.209.5]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:55:21 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:54:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda From: Cullen Jennings To: Manjunath S Bangalore , Dhaval N Shah , Jonathan Rosenberg Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda Thread-Index: AcXTcvnffq5asto2RsOsqSe0EN/5UgAADcNQADtb004BrU66QABzknPb In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e8a67952aa972b528dd04570d58ad8fe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org I think that Jonathan is going to need to review this one. On 10/27/05 9:52 AM, "Bangalore, Manjunath" wrote: > Cullen, > > I just wanted to confirm that there are no other open issues besides > positioning TGREP as a profile of TRIP. We have addressed all other > feedback that was received when it was put out for WGLC sometime ago. > > Can we get some assistance from yourself and Jonathan in addressing this > one item? > > Regards, > -Manjax > > -----Original Message----- > From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Cullen Jennings > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:53 PM > To: Dhaval N Shah; Jonathan Rosenberg > Cc: iptel@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Iptel] 64th IETF Agenda > > > Hi Dhaval, > > Unfortunately we did not request any agenda time. Jonathan and I did > think (or did not realize) that there were any open issues that could > not be solved on the list. My notes have that the major open issue is > that we need to massage the draft to make it a profile of TRIP instead > of a different protocol. Are there other issues? Can we sort them out on > the list? Any estimate of when we might get the next revision? The > current one is from > 2001 > > Cullen > > > > > On 10/17/05 4:36 PM, "Dhaval N. Shah (dhaval)" wrote: > >> >> Jonathan/Cullen, >> >> We'd like a 15 minute slot in the IPTEL WG meeting in the upcoming >> IETF to conclude any open issues for TGREP to move closer towards RFC >> status. >> >> Thx, >> Dhaval and Manjunath >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Iptel mailing list >> Iptel@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sat Oct 29 19:57:41 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EW0Zx-00040B-HB; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:57:41 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EW0Zv-0003x7-S4 for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:57:39 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA01522 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EW0nn-00036E-0n for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:12:00 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2005 16:57:29 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,266,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="225318553:sNHT22779732" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9TNvRUw009985 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 10.82.209.5 ([10.82.209.5]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:57:59 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:49:11 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: "iptel@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: IANA Registry Draft Thread-Index: AcXc41wNmqjS2kjWEdqp2AARJEEJ/A== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org If we decide we are going to have a registry (and Richard gave some good reasons), we need to define it. In the name of expediting this, I slammed together a draft. Until it shows up in the drafts directory, you can find it at http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings-iptel-tel-re g-00.html or ASCII version at http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings-iptel-tel-re g-00.txt I apologize if my email mangled the URL. Please note one important item. This draft normatively depends on the existing WG drafts, not the other way around. Cullen (not as chair) _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sun Oct 30 00:16:05 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EW4bS-0003hx-26; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 00:15:30 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EW4bQ-0003hf-Pr for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 00:15:28 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA12022 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 00:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com ([192.11.222.163]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EW4pJ-0000lL-LS for iptel@ietf.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 00:29:51 -0400 Received: from ihmail.ih.lucent.com (h135-1-218-70.lucent.com [135.1.218.70]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9U4FAgt003839; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:15:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [135.255.30.238] (vkg.lra.lucent.com [135.255.30.238]) by ihmail.ih.lucent.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id j9U4F9J06798; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:15:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <436448CB.20808@lucent.com> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:15:07 -0500 From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings Subject: Re: [Iptel] Trunk group requirements References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Cullen Jennings wrote: > What do people think about the idea moving moving section 4 to an appendix? As a co-author, let me provide some precedent for Section 4. It followed the convention in the tel URI draft, which later became RFC3966. RFC3966 provides rationale in this manner, though not requirements. But I thought that this was a good model to follow since it imparts to the readers some context on why things are the way they are. Thanks, - vijay _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sun Oct 30 17:03:49 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWLHJ-0007xf-NA; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:03:49 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWLHI-0007xU-A9 for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:03:48 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA20877 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWLVK-0002uH-WF for iptel@ietf.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:18:20 -0500 Received: from [68.165.240.35] (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9UM45Sk016911 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:04:07 -0800 Message-ID: <43654329.2090702@shockey.us> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:03:21 -0500 From: Richard Shockey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Found to be clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 4d87d2aa806f79fed918a62e834505ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Cullen Jennings wrote: > If we decide we are going to have a registry (and Richard gave some good > reasons), we need to define it. In the name of expediting this, I slammed > together a draft. Until it shows up in the drafts directory, you can find it > at > > http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings-iptel-tel-re > g-00.html This is a fine start. That last essential piece of the puzzle. I know this is a place holder but it will need all the parameters from James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well. > > or ASCII version at > > http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings-iptel-tel-re > g-00.txt > > I apologize if my email mangled the URL. > > Please note one important item. This draft normatively depends on the > existing WG drafts, not the other way around. > > > Cullen (not as chair) > > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683 Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or ; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 08:07:02 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWZNO-0007yD-9R; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:07:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWZNN-0007xw-BY for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:07:01 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA06518 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:06:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from 213-152-49-123.dsl.eclipse.net.uk ([213.152.49.123] helo=norman.insensate.co.uk) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWZbX-0001WQ-TT for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:21:41 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by norman.insensate.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFB6733FD; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:37:01 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <43654329.2090702@shockey.us> References: <43654329.2090702@shockey.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lconroy Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:37:00 +0000 To: Cullen Jennings , Richard Shockey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cd26b070c2577ac175cd3a6d878c6248 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: iptel@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Hi Cullen, folks, As Richard says, this is the missing piece. Questions on first reading: - Do parameter authors need a hint that a required IANA considerations section is there to spell out exactly what is to be registered and under which registry? (i.e. don't make IANA hunt around in the document, as they COULD miss it :) - enumdi has no pre-defined values, as it can be considered to have an implicit (or binary) value of "yes/done". Should the pre-defined table values be: "yes/no/implicit binary"? Good stuff. all the best, Lawrence On 30 Oct 2005, at 22:03, Richard Shockey wrote: > Cullen Jennings wrote: > >> If we decide we are going to have a registry (and Richard gave >> some good >> reasons), we need to define it. In the name of expediting this, I >> slammed >> together a draft. Until it shows up in the drafts directory, you >> can find it >> at http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings- >> iptel-tel-re >> g-00.html >> > > > This is a fine start. That last essential piece of the puzzle. > > I know this is a place holder but it will need all the parameters > from James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well. > > >> or ASCII version at >> http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings- >> iptel-tel-re >> g-00.txt >> I apologize if my email mangled the URL. >> Please note one important item. This draft normatively depends on the >> existing WG drafts, not the other way around. >> Cullen (not as chair) >> _______________________________________________ >> Iptel mailing list >> Iptel@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >> > > > -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff > NeuStar Inc. > 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 > sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com > ENUM +87810-13313-31331 > PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683 > Fax: +1 815.333.1237 > or > > ; > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 08:18:03 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWZUL-0001YN-7O; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:14:13 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWZUJ-0001Xo-54 for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:14:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA06941 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.neustar.com ([209.173.53.70]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWZiS-0001qq-PJ for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:28:51 -0500 Received: from stntsmtp1.cis.neustar.com (smartexch.neustar.com [10.31.13.79]) by oak.neustar.com (8.12.8/8.11.0) with ESMTP id j9VDDuFg019920; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:13:56 GMT Received: from stntexch01.cis.neustar.com ([10.31.13.43]) by stntsmtp1.cis.neustar.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:13:11 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:13:10 -0500 Message-ID: <165FCC93A820D240A62F98E028CEFED005DF1D54@stntexch01.cis.neustar.com> Thread-Topic: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Thread-Index: AcXeHF4N+HD9NISvSPKc+hX3BcpCzAAAHksc From: "Yu, James" To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2005 13:13:11.0124 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7D1F940:01C5DE1C] X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Scan-Signature: 578c2c9d0cb01ffe6e1ca36540edd070 Cc: iptel@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1048300737==" Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1048300737== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE1C.D74D1C2B" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE1C.D74D1C2B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Suggest to register "enumdi" or "npdi" parameter without a value because = either has a value. James -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org To: Cullen Jennings; Rich Shockey CC: iptel@ietf.org Sent: Mon Oct 31 07:37:00 2005 Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Hi Cullen, folks, As Richard says, this is the missing piece. Questions on first reading: - Do parameter authors need a hint that a required IANA =20 considerations section is there to spell out exactly what is to be registered and =20 under which registry? (i.e. don't make IANA hunt around in the document, as they =20 COULD miss it :) - enumdi has no pre-defined values, as it can be considered to =20 have an implicit (or binary) value of "yes/done". Should the pre-defined table =20 values be: "yes/no/implicit binary"? Good stuff. all the best, Lawrence On 30 Oct 2005, at 22:03, Richard Shockey wrote: > Cullen Jennings wrote: > >> If we decide we are going to have a registry (and Richard gave =20 >> some good >> reasons), we need to define it. In the name of expediting this, I =20 >> slammed >> together a draft. Until it shows up in the drafts directory, you =20 >> can find it >> at http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings-=20 >> iptel-tel-re >> g-00.html >> > > > This is a fine start. That last essential piece of the puzzle. > > I know this is a place holder but it will need all the parameters =20 > from James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well. > > >> or ASCII version at >> http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings-=20 >> iptel-tel-re >> g-00.txt >> I apologize if my email mangled the URL. >> Please note one important item. This draft normatively depends on the >> existing WG drafts, not the other way around. >> Cullen (not as chair) >> _______________________________________________ >> Iptel mailing list >> Iptel@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >> > > > --=20 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff > NeuStar Inc. > 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 > sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com > ENUM +87810-13313-31331 > PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683 > Fax: +1 815.333.1237 > or > > ; > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE1C.D74D1C2B Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft

Suggest to register “enumdi” or = “npdi” parameter without a value because either has a = value.

James

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-----Original Message-----
From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org
To: Cullen Jennings; Rich Shockey
CC: iptel@ietf.org
Sent: Mon Oct 31 07:37:00 2005
Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft

Hi Cullen, folks,
  As Richard says, this is the missing piece.
Questions on first reading:
   -  Do parameter authors need a hint that a required = IANA 
considerations section
      is there to spell out exactly what is to = be registered and 
under which registry?
      (i.e. don't make IANA hunt around in the = document, as they 
COULD miss it :)
   -  enumdi has no pre-defined values, as it can be = considered to 
have an implicit
      (or binary) value of = "yes/done". Should the pre-defined table 
values be:
       "yes/no/implicit = binary"?

Good stuff.

all the best,
   Lawrence

On 30 Oct 2005, at 22:03, Richard Shockey wrote:

> Cullen Jennings wrote:
>
>> If we decide we are going to have a registry (and Richard = gave 
>> some good
>> reasons), we need to define it. In the name of expediting this, = I 
>> slammed
>> together a draft. Until it shows up in the drafts directory, = you 
>> can find it
>> at http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings-
= >> iptel-tel-re
>> g-00.html
>>
>
>
> This is a fine start. That last essential piece of the puzzle.
>
> I know this is a place holder but it will need all the = parameters 
> from James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well.
>
>
>>  or ASCII version at
>> http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings-
= >> iptel-tel-re
>> g-00.txt
>> I apologize if my email mangled the URL.
>> Please note one important item. This draft normatively depends = on the
>> existing WG drafts, not the other way around.
>> Cullen (not as chair)
>> _______________________________________________
>> Iptel mailing list
>> Iptel@ietf.org
>> https://www1.ietf.o= rg/mailman/listinfo/iptel
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
> = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff
> NeuStar Inc.
> 46000 Center Oak Plaza  -   Sterling, VA  = 20166
> sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org   = sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com
> ENUM +87810-13313-31331
> PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683
> Fax: +1 815.333.1237
> <mailto:richard(at)shockey.us>= ; or
> <mailto:richard.shockey(at)= neustar.biz>
> <http://www.neustar.biz> ; <http://www.enum.org>
> = <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<&= lt;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<&l= t;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE1C.D74D1C2B-- --===============1048300737== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel --===============1048300737==-- From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 08:22:01 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWZbt-0003FU-EB; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:22:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWZbr-0003FG-4O for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:21:59 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA07289 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:21:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.neustar.com ([209.173.53.70]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWZq2-0002PS-QQ for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:36:39 -0500 Received: from stntsmtp1.cis.neustar.com (smartexch.neustar.com [10.31.13.79]) by oak.neustar.com (8.12.8/8.11.0) with ESMTP id j9VDLnFg020275; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:21:49 GMT Received: from stntexch01.cis.neustar.com ([10.31.13.43]) by stntsmtp1.cis.neustar.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:21:03 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:21:02 -0500 Message-ID: <165FCC93A820D240A62F98E028CEFED005DF1D55@stntexch01.cis.neustar.com> Thread-Topic: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Thread-Index: AcXeHF4N+HD9NISvSPKc+hX3BcpCzAAAHkscAABGY0Q= From: "Yu, James" To: "Yu, James" , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2005 13:21:03.0633 (UTC) FILETIME=[F1752010:01C5DE1D] X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Scan-Signature: cbb41f2dbf0f142369614756642005e3 Cc: iptel@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0860144099==" Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0860144099== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE1D.F0DD46C3" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE1D.F0DD46C3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, should "neither has a value". -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org To: lconroy@insensate.co.uk; fluffy@cisco.com; Rich Shockey CC: iptel@ietf.org Sent: Mon Oct 31 08:13:10 2005 Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Suggest to register "enumdi" or "npdi" parameter without a value because = either has a value. James -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org To: Cullen Jennings; Rich Shockey CC: iptel@ietf.org Sent: Mon Oct 31 07:37:00 2005 Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Hi Cullen, folks, As Richard says, this is the missing piece. Questions on first reading: - Do parameter authors need a hint that a required IANA=20 considerations section is there to spell out exactly what is to be registered and=20 under which registry? (i.e. don't make IANA hunt around in the document, as they=20 COULD miss it :) - enumdi has no pre-defined values, as it can be considered to=20 have an implicit (or binary) value of "yes/done". Should the pre-defined table=20 values be: "yes/no/implicit binary"? Good stuff. all the best, Lawrence On 30 Oct 2005, at 22:03, Richard Shockey wrote: > Cullen Jennings wrote: > >> If we decide we are going to have a registry (and Richard gave=20 >> some good >> reasons), we need to define it. In the name of expediting this, I=20 >> slammed >> together a draft. Until it shows up in the drafts directory, you=20 >> can find it >> at http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings- >> iptel-tel-re >> g-00.html >> > > > This is a fine start. That last essential piece of the puzzle. > > I know this is a place holder but it will need all the parameters=20 > from James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well. > > >> or ASCII version at >> http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings- >> iptel-tel-re >> g-00.txt >> I apologize if my email mangled the URL. >> Please note one important item. This draft normatively depends on the >> existing WG drafts, not the other way around. >> Cullen (not as chair) >> _______________________________________________ >> Iptel mailing list >> Iptel@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >> > > > -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff > NeuStar Inc. > 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 > sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com > ENUM +87810-13313-31331 > PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683 > Fax: +1 815.333.1237 > or > > ; > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE1D.F0DD46C3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft

Sorry, should “neither has a value”.
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-----Original Message-----
From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org
To: lconroy@insensate.co.uk; fluffy@cisco.com; Rich Shockey
CC: iptel@ietf.org
Sent: Mon Oct 31 08:13:10 2005
Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft

Suggest to register “enumdi” or “npdi” parameter = without a value because either has a value.

James

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-----Original Message-----
From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org
To: Cullen Jennings; Rich Shockey
CC: iptel@ietf.org
Sent: Mon Oct 31 07:37:00 2005
Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft

Hi Cullen, folks,
  As Richard says, this is the missing piece.
Questions on first reading:
   -  Do parameter authors need a hint that a required = IANA
considerations section
      is there to spell out exactly what is to = be registered and
under which registry?
      (i.e. don't make IANA hunt around in the = document, as they
COULD miss it :)
   -  enumdi has no pre-defined values, as it can be = considered to
have an implicit
      (or binary) value of = "yes/done". Should the pre-defined table
values be:
       "yes/no/implicit = binary"?

Good stuff.

all the best,
   Lawrence

On 30 Oct 2005, at 22:03, Richard Shockey wrote:

> Cullen Jennings wrote:
>
>> If we decide we are going to have a registry (and Richard = gave
>> some good
>> reasons), we need to define it. In the name of expediting this, = I
>> slammed
>> together a draft. Until it shows up in the drafts directory, = you
>> can find it
>> at http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings-
= >> iptel-tel-re
>> g-00.html
>>
>
>
> This is a fine start. That last essential piece of the puzzle.
>
> I know this is a place holder but it will need all the = parameters
> from James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well.
>
>
>>  or ASCII version at
>> http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings-
= >> iptel-tel-re
>> g-00.txt
>> I apologize if my email mangled the URL.
>> Please note one important item. This draft normatively depends = on the
>> existing WG drafts, not the other way around.
>> Cullen (not as chair)
>> _______________________________________________
>> Iptel mailing list
>> Iptel@ietf.org
>> https://www1.ietf.o= rg/mailman/listinfo/iptel
>>
>
>
> --
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>
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> Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff
> NeuStar Inc.
> 46000 Center Oak Plaza  -   Sterling, VA  = 20166
> sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org   = sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com
> ENUM +87810-13313-31331
> PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683
> Fax: +1 815.333.1237
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE1D.F0DD46C3-- --===============0860144099== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel --===============0860144099==-- From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 09:15:50 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWaRy-0008Gt-9j; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:15:50 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWaRw-0008Gi-5X for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:15:48 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA10236 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWag7-0007Vj-EJ for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:30:28 -0500 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2005 06:15:38 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,269,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="670614943:sNHT623761368" Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9VEF7K3013794 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.53]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:15:29 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Iptel] Do we need an IANA registry for tel parameters Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:15:28 -0500 Message-ID: <072C5B76F7CEAB488172C6F64B30B5E3BA3DDC@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> Thread-Topic: [Iptel] Do we need an IANA registry for tel parameters Thread-Index: AcXcxS4ZbJY1hki4Edqp2AARJEEJ/ABYBdwQ From: "Michael Hammer \(mhammer\)" To: "Cullen Jennings \(fluffy\)" , , "Jonathan Rosenberg \(jdrosen\)" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2005 14:15:29.0379 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BFE6B30:01C5DE25] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org If a developer wanted to know what parameters needed to be covered, he could: 1) exhaustively read all RFCs, 2) go to the IANA registry, see the list, reference the associated RFCs. The latter is much easier to do. Mike =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]=20 > On Behalf Of Cullen Jennings (fluffy) > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 4:13 PM > To: iptel@ietf.org; Jonathan Rosenberg (jdrosen) > Subject: [Iptel] Do we need an IANA registry for tel parameters >=20 >=20 > We decided long ago that we needed one and put the creation=20 > of it in the trunk-group draft. However, in tel-np draft we=20 > decided not to have a registry. I don't particularly care one=20 > way or the other but I think we need to be consistent on this. >=20 > What do folks think? Is there some part of this I am forgetting? >=20 > Thanks, Cullen >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >=20 _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 10:28:30 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWbaI-0006xz-6w; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:28:30 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWbaF-0006xC-Nb for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:28:28 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA14142 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:28:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com ([192.11.222.163]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWboS-0006Qq-3e for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:43:08 -0500 Received: from ihmail.ih.lucent.com (h135-1-218-70.lucent.com [135.1.218.70]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9VFSBwE019823; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:28:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from [135.185.173.147] (il0015vkg1.ih.lucent.com [135.185.173.147]) by ihmail.ih.lucent.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id j9VFSAq19891; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:28:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4366380A.7040805@lucent.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:28:10 -0600 From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" Organization: Wireless Networks Research and Development User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings , richard@shockey.us, axelm@nic.at X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bcd240e64c427d3d3617cfc704e7fd7f Cc: IETF IPTEL WG Subject: [Iptel] Swapping nits review of tel-np-07 and trunk-group-04 X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0665731041==" Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============0665731041== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000405010103050703010907" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000405010103050703010907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard, Cullen, Alex: Since no one beat a path to Cullen's door on his call for volunteers for draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04, I suggest that we do the following: I can nits review draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07, freeing up Alex to review draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04. As a co-author, I cannot review draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04, hence this seems to be the best way to get both the drafts nits reviewed. Unless, of course someone else is willing to step in and review draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04... Please let me know. Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. 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10:41:29 -0600 Message-ID: <28F05913385EAC43AF019413F674A0170DE0BD3B@OCCLUST04EVS1.ugd.att.com> Thread-Topic: [Iptel] Swapping nits review of tel-np-07 and trunk-group-04 Thread-Index: AcXeMAEW6zrEtwVgQ76Jaol7n5CYLQACdPIQ From: "Dolly, Martin C, ALABS" To: "Vijay K. Gurbani" , "Cullen Jennings" , , X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5ebbf074524e58e662bc8209a6235027 Cc: IETF IPTEL WG X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0288934822==" Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0288934822== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE39.F13C86A9" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE39.F13C86A9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will review the trunk group draft. Comments due by? =20 Cheers, =20 Martin -----Original Message----- From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of = Vijay K. Gurbani Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:28 AM To: Cullen Jennings; richard@shockey.us; axelm@nic.at Cc: IETF IPTEL WG Subject: [Iptel] Swapping nits review of tel-np-07 and trunk-group-04 Richard, Cullen, Alex: Since no one beat a path to Cullen's door on his call for volunteers for draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04, I suggest that we do the following: I can nits review draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07, freeing up Alex to review draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04. As a co-author, I cannot review draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04, hence this seems to be the best way to get both the drafts nits reviewed. Unless, of course someone else is willing to step in and review draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04... Please let me know. Thanks, - vijay --=20 Vijay K. Gurbani, Ph.D. vkg@{lucent.com,research.bell-labs.com,acm.org} Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs Innovations, 2000 Lucent Lane, Rm 6G-440 Naperville, Illinois 60566 Voice: +1 630 224 0216 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE39.F13C86A9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Iptel] Swapping nits review of tel-np-07 and = trunk-group-04
I will=20 review the trunk group draft. Comments due by?
 
Cheers,
 
Martin
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From: = iptel-bounces@ietf.org=20 [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Vijay K.=20 Gurbani
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:28 = AM
To: Cullen=20 Jennings; richard@shockey.us; axelm@nic.at
Cc: IETF IPTEL=20 WG
Subject: [Iptel] Swapping nits review of tel-np-07 and=20 trunk-group-04

Richard, Cullen, = Alex:

Since no=20 one beat a path to Cullen's door on his call for volunteers
for=20 draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04, I suggest that we do = the
following: I can=20 nits review draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07, freeing
up Alex to review=20 draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04.

As a co-author, I cannot = review=20 draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04,
hence this seems to be the best = way to get=20 both the drafts
nits reviewed.

Unless, of course someone = else is=20 willing to step in and=20 review
draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04...

Please let me=20 know.

Thanks,

- vijay
--
Vijay K. Gurbani, Ph.D.=20 vkg@{lucent.com,research.bell-labs.com,acm.org}
Lucent = Technologies/Bell=20 Labs Innovations, 2000 Lucent Lane, Rm 6G-440
Naperville, Illinois = 60566=20 Voice: +1 630 224=20 0216
 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DE39.F13C86A9-- --===============0288934822== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel --===============0288934822==-- From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 11:52:07 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWctD-0004ks-GX; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:52:07 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWct9-0004jc-RV for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:52:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA19831 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWd7M-0007mP-BM for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:06:45 -0500 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2005 08:51:53 -0800 Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9VGpoUw018210; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.21.123.51 ([10.21.123.51]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:52:23 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:51:48 -0800 Subject: Re: [Iptel] Swapping nits review of tel-np-07 and trunk-group-04 From: Cullen Jennings To: Dolly Martin , "Vijay K. Gurbani" , Richard Shockey , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] Swapping nits review of tel-np-07 and trunk-group-04 Thread-Index: AcXeMAEW6zrEtwVgQ76Jaol7n5CYLQACdPIQAABjTtI= In-Reply-To: <28F05913385EAC43AF019413F674A0170DE0BD3B@OCCLUST04EVS1.ugd.att.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5d7a7e767f20255fce80fa0b77fb2433 Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2029548967==" Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --===============2029548967== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3213593508_3591265" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3213593508_3591265 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Monday morning nov 7 would be awesome. JDR also plans to review it by then. Cullen On 10/31/05 8:41 AM, "Dolly, Martin C, ALABS" wrote: > I will review the trunk group draft. Comments due by? > > Cheers, > > Martin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of >> Vijay K. Gurbani >> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:28 AM >> To: Cullen Jennings; richard@shockey.us; axelm@nic.at >> Cc: IETF IPTEL WG >> Subject: [Iptel] Swapping nits review of tel-np-07 and trunk-group-04 >> >> Richard, Cullen, Alex: >> >> Since no one beat a path to Cullen's door on his call for volunteers >> for draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04, I suggest that we do the >> following: I can nits review draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07, freeing >> up Alex to review draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04. >> >> As a co-author, I cannot review draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04, >> hence this seems to be the best way to get both the drafts >> nits reviewed. >> >> Unless, of course someone else is willing to step in and review >> draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04... >> >> Please let me know. >> >> Thanks, >> >> - vijay --B_3213593508_3591265 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [Iptel] Swapping nits review of tel-np-07 and trunk-group-04</TI= TLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><BR> Monday morning nov 7 would be awesome. JDR also plans to review it by then.= <BR> <BR> Cullen<BR> <BR> <BR> On 10/31/05 8:41 AM, "Dolly, Martin C, ALABS" <mdolly@att.com&= gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000= FF"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">I will review the trunk group draft. Comments due by?= <BR> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Cheers,<BR> </FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Martin<BR> </FONT></FONT></SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D= "Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR> </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR> <B>From:</B> iptel-bounces@ietf.org  [<a href=3D"mailto:iptel-bounces@ie= tf.org]">mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]</a><B>On Behalf Of </B>Vijay K. &nbs= p;Gurbani<BR> <B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 31, 2005 10:28 AM<BR> <B>To:</B> Cullen  Jennings; richard@shockey.us; axelm@nic.at<BR> <B>Cc:</B> IETF IPTEL  WG<BR> <B>Subject:</B> [Iptel] Swapping nits review of tel-np-07 and  trunk-g= roup-04<BR> <BR> </FONT></SPAN><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Monaco, Courier New"><SPAN STYLE=3D'= font-size:10.0px'>Richard, Cullen, Alex:<BR> <BR> Since no  one beat a path to Cullen's door on his call for volunteers<= BR> for  draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04, I suggest that we do the<BR> following: I can  nits review draft-ietf-iptel-tel-np-07, freeing<BR> up Alex to review  draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04.<BR> <BR> As a co-author, I cannot review  draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04,<BR> hence this seems to be the best way to get  both the drafts<BR> nits reviewed.<BR> <BR> Unless, of course someone else is  willing to step in and  review= <BR> draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-04...<BR> <BR> Please let me  know.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> <BR> - vijay<BR> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"M= onaco, Courier New"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:10.0px'><BR> </SPAN></FONT></FONT> </BODY> </HTML> --B_3213593508_3591265-- --===============2029548967== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel --===============2029548967==-- From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 13:27:50 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWeNq-0001Xs-7f; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:27:50 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWeNo-0001Xn-7L for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:27:48 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA25961 for <iptel@ietf.org>; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWec1-0005f3-N1 for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:42:31 -0500 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2005 10:27:38 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,270,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="225736163:sNHT24414752" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9VIRZ8k028939; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.21.123.51 ([10.21.123.51]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:28:08 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:27:34 -0800 Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft From: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> To: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us> Message-ID: <BF8BA216.5D916%fluffy@cisco.com> Thread-Topic: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Thread-Index: AcXeSML4AUkSMko8EdqDDgARJEEJ/A== In-Reply-To: <43654329.2090702@shockey.us> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" <iptel@ietf.org> X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony <iptel.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel>, <mailto:iptel-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www1.ietf.org/pipermail/iptel> List-Post: <mailto:iptel@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:iptel-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel>, <mailto:iptel-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org On 10/30/05 2:03 PM, "Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> wrote: > I know this is a place holder but it will need all the parameters from > James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well. I think I got rn rn-context cic cic-context Any others I need from tel-np-07? _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 13:31:39 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWeRX-0002PW-KN; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:31:39 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWeRT-0002PC-Pf for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:31:35 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26134 for <iptel@ietf.org>; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from willow.neustar.com ([209.173.53.84]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWefh-0005nB-D8 for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:46:18 -0500 Received: from stntsmtp1.cis.neustar.com (smartexch.neustar.com [10.31.13.79]) by willow.neustar.com (8.12.8/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j9VIVNnM027330; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:31:23 GMT Received: from stntexch01.cis.neustar.com ([10.31.13.43]) by stntsmtp1.cis.neustar.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:30:37 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:30:36 -0500 Message-ID: <165FCC93A820D240A62F98E028CEFED005DF1D64@stntexch01.cis.neustar.com> Thread-Topic: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Thread-Index: AcXeSML4AUkSMko8EdqDDgARJEEJ/AAAF6JA From: "Yu, James" <james.yu@neustar.biz> To: "Cullen Jennings" <fluffy@cisco.com>, "Rich Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2005 18:30:37.0253 (UTC) FILETIME=[30329F50:01C5DE49] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: iptel@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony <iptel.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel>, <mailto:iptel-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www1.ietf.org/pipermail/iptel> List-Post: <mailto:iptel@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:iptel-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel>, <mailto:iptel-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org "npdi" -----Original Message----- From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Cullen Jennings Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:28 PM To: Rich Shockey Cc: iptel@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft On 10/30/05 2:03 PM, "Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> wrote: > I know this is a place holder but it will need all the parameters from > James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well. I think I got=20 rn =20 rn-context =20 cic =20 cic-context =20 Any others I need from tel-np-07? =20 _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 13:37:46 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWeXS-0004A0-NZ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:37:46 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWeXQ-00049e-Ht for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:37:44 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26661 for <iptel@ietf.org>; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:37:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWele-0006D8-1l for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:52:27 -0500 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2005 10:37:33 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,270,1125903600"; d="scan'208,217"; a="225739553:sNHT37721932" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9VIbWUw003646; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.21.123.51 ([10.21.123.51]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:38:03 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:37:28 -0800 Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft From: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> To: Lawrence Conroy <lconroy@insensate.co.uk>, Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us> Message-ID: <BF8BA468.5D924%fluffy@cisco.com> Thread-Topic: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Thread-Index: AcXeSiUFY60j80o9EdqDDgARJEEJ/A== In-Reply-To: <CB8D761F-07C1-48CC-A81C-8B1A80B7BD50@insensate.co.uk> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2a76bcd37b1c8a21336eb0a1ea6bbf48 Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" <iptel@ietf.org> X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony <iptel.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel>, <mailto:iptel-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www1.ietf.org/pipermail/iptel> List-Post: <mailto:iptel@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:iptel-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel>, <mailto:iptel-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0059702798==" Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --===============0059702798== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3213599848_3985310" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3213599848_3985310 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good points - inline .... On 10/31/05 4:37 AM, "lconroy" <lconroy@insensate.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Cullen, folks, > As Richard says, this is the missing piece. > Questions on first reading: > - Do parameter authors need a hint that a required IANA > considerations section > is there to spell out exactly what is to be registered and > under which registry? > (i.e. don't make IANA hunt around in the document, as they > COULD miss it :) Sounds like good idea - Are you thinking that I should have a section that tell authors of future document that they should make an a IANA Consideration section that has text that fills out a certain template and show what that template looks like. I was trying to to that where I put > New tel URI parameters and new parameter values are registered by the IANA. > When registering a new tel parameter or a new value for a parameter, the > following information MUST be provided. > > Name of the parameter. > Whether the parameter only accepts a set of predefined values. > Reference to the RFC defining the parameter and to any RFC that defines new > values for the parameter. References to RFCs defining parameter values appear > in double brackets in the registry. But looks like I should have been more explicit. (One can never be too explicit with IANA stuff :-) Thoughts on how to fix? > - enumdi has no pre-defined values, as it can be considered to > have an implicit > (or binary) value of "yes/done". Should the pre-defined table > values be: > "yes/no/implicit binary"? I see what you are saying - I realized I did not write what I meant to write. If I changed the Whether the parameter only accepts a set of predefined value" -> " Whether the parameter accepts a value". That is what I meant to say - then the values I have for yes/no would be correct. Would it be ok to change to this and not worry about the yes/no/implicit - I'm trying to keep this draft dead simple. I would also change the para with " So, the tel URI parameter registry contains a column that indicates whether or not each parameter only accepts a set of predefined values. Implementers of parameters with a "yes" in that column need to find all the valid parameter values in the RFCs provided as references." to something like So, the tel URI parameter registry contains a column that indicates whether or not each parameter accepts values. Implementers of parameters with a "yes" in that column need to find all the valid parameter values in the RFCs provided as references. > > Good stuff. > > all the best, > Lawrence > --B_3213599848_3985310 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft
Good points - inline ....


On 10/31/05 4:37 AM, "lconroy" <lconroy@insensate.co.uk> wr= ote:

> Hi Cullen, folks,
>   As Richard says, this is the missing piece.
> Questions on first reading:
>    -  Do parameter authors need a hint that a requ= ired IANA  
> considerations section
>       is there to spell out exactly what= is to be registered and  
> under which registry?
>       (i.e. don't make IANA hunt around = in the document, as they  
> COULD miss it :)

Sounds like good idea - Are you thinking that I should have a section that = tell authors of future document that they should make an a IANA Consideratio= n section that has text that fills out a certain template and show what that= template looks like. I was trying to to that where I put

> New tel URI parameters and new parameter values are registered by the = IANA.
> When registering a new tel parameter or a new value for a parameter, t= he
> following information MUST be provided.
>
> Name of the parameter.
> Whether the parameter only accepts a set of predefined values.
> Reference to the RFC defining the parameter and to any RFC that define= s new
> values for the parameter. References to RFCs defining parameter values= appear
> in double brackets in the registry.

But looks like I should have been more explicit. (One can never be t= oo explicit with IANA stuff :-)

Thoughts on how to fix?

>    -  enumdi has no pre-defi= ned values, as it can be considered to  
> have an implicit
>       (or binary) value of "yes/don= e". Should the pre-defined table  
> values be:
>        "yes/no/implicit binary= "?

I see what you are saying - I realized I did not write what I meant to writ= e. If I changed the
 Whether the para= meter only accepts a set of predefined value"  -> " Whethe= r the parameter accepts a value". That is what I meant to say - then th= e values I have for yes/no would be correct. Would it be ok to change to thi= s and not worry about the yes/no/implicit - I'm trying to keep this draft de= ad simple.

I would also change the para with

" So, the tel URI parameter registry contains a column that indicates = whether or not each parameter only accepts a set of predefined values. Imple= menters of parameters with a "yes" in that column need to find all= the valid parameter values in the RFCs provided as references."

to something like

So, the tel URI parame= ter registry contains a column that indicates whether or not each parameter = accepts values. Implementers of parameters with a "yes" in that co= lumn need to find all the valid parameter values in the RFCs provided as ref= erences.

>
> Good stuff.
>
> all the best,
>    Lawrence
> --B_3213599848_3985310-- --===============0059702798== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel --===============0059702798==-- From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 13:41:48 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWebL-0005V7-V9; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:41:47 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWebJ-0005Uk-NB for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:41:45 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA27361 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:41:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWepX-0006Y5-BY for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:56:28 -0500 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2005 10:41:35 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,270,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="225740861:sNHT24574636" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9VIfZUw005068; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.21.123.51 ([10.21.123.51]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:42:06 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:41:31 -0800 Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft From: Cullen Jennings To: James Yu , Richard Shockey Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Thread-Index: AcXeSML4AUkSMko8EdqDDgARJEEJ/AAAF6JAAABlF7Y= In-Reply-To: <165FCC93A820D240A62F98E028CEFED005DF1D64@stntexch01.cis.neustar.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Oops - thanks. I added a line to table 1 that looks like npdi No [RFC BBBB] On 10/31/05 10:30 AM, "Yu, James" wrote: > "npdi" > > -----Original Message----- > From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of > Cullen Jennings > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:28 PM > To: Rich Shockey > Cc: iptel@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft > > > On 10/30/05 2:03 PM, "Richard Shockey" wrote: > >> I know this is a place holder but it will need all the parameters from >> James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well. > > I think I got > > rn > rn-context > cic > cic-context > > Any others I need from tel-np-07? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 15:11:33 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWg0D-0003PS-5O; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:11:33 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWg0B-0003PC-Ao for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:11:31 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA04645 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:11:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com ([64.102.122.148]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWgEP-0005Zh-Of for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:26:15 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com ([64.102.124.13]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2005 12:11:21 -0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,270,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="14256031:sNHT22829116" Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9VKBAEq027973; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.53]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:11:15 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:11:14 -0500 Message-ID: <072C5B76F7CEAB488172C6F64B30B5E3BA3FA0@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> Thread-Topic: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Thread-Index: AcXeSML4AUkSMko8EdqDDgARJEEJ/AAAF6JAAABlF7YAAwImgA== From: "Michael Hammer \(mhammer\)" To: "Cullen Jennings \(fluffy\)" , "James Yu" , "Richard Shockey" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2005 20:11:15.0745 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F6B6110:01C5DE57] X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c0bedb65cce30976f0bf60a0a39edea4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: iptel@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Does "No" mean "Null" in this table? I thought Yes meant there are pre-defined values, look them up; while No meant make your own up as needed. Null would mean that the parameter takes no values. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]=20 > On Behalf Of Cullen Jennings (fluffy) > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:42 PM > To: James Yu; Richard Shockey > Cc: iptel@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft >=20 >=20 > Oops - thanks.=20 >=20 > I added a line to table 1 that looks like >=20 > npdi No [RFC BBBB] >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 10/31/05 10:30 AM, "Yu, James" wrote: >=20 > > "npdi" > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf=20 > > Of Cullen Jennings > > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:28 PM > > To: Rich Shockey > > Cc: iptel@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft > >=20 > >=20 > > On 10/30/05 2:03 PM, "Richard Shockey" wrote: > >=20 > >> I know this is a place holder but it will need all the parameters=20 > >> from James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well. > >=20 > > I think I got > >=20 > > rn =20 > > rn-context =20 > > cic =20 > > cic-context =20 > >=20 > > Any others I need from tel-np-07? > >=20 > > =20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Iptel mailing list > > Iptel@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >=20 _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 16:55:36 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWhcu-0004g0-6E; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:55:36 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWhcr-0004fv-DL for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:55:33 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA13207 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWhr3-00024n-Mb for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:10:15 -0500 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2005 13:55:20 -0800 Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9VLtHUw018587; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.21.123.51 ([10.21.123.51]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:55:50 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:55:15 -0800 Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft From: Cullen Jennings To: Michael P Hammer , James Yu , Richard Shockey Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Thread-Index: AcXeSML4AUkSMko8EdqDDgARJEEJ/AAAF6JAAABlF7YAAwImgAADwfYo In-Reply-To: <072C5B76F7CEAB488172C6F64B30B5E3BA3FA0@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d8ae4fd88fcaf47c1a71c804d04f413d Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Sure, that was not what I had in mind but that sounds perfectly reasonable. So enumdi and npdi will be NULL and all the others that are there right now will stay Yes. On 10/31/05 12:11 PM, "Michael Hammer (mhammer)" wrote: > Does "No" mean "Null" in this table? > > I thought Yes meant there are pre-defined values, look them up; > while No meant make your own up as needed. > > Null would mean that the parameter takes no values. > > Mike > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of Cullen Jennings (fluffy) >> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:42 PM >> To: James Yu; Richard Shockey >> Cc: iptel@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft >> >> >> Oops - thanks. >> >> I added a line to table 1 that looks like >> >> npdi No [RFC BBBB] >> >> >> >> On 10/31/05 10:30 AM, "Yu, James" wrote: >> >>> "npdi" >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf >>> Of Cullen Jennings >>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:28 PM >>> To: Rich Shockey >>> Cc: iptel@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft >>> >>> >>> On 10/30/05 2:03 PM, "Richard Shockey" wrote: >>> >>>> I know this is a place holder but it will need all the parameters >>>> from James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well. >>> >>> I think I got >>> >>> rn >>> rn-context >>> cic >>> cic-context >>> >>> Any others I need from tel-np-07? >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Iptel mailing list >>> Iptel@ietf.org >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Iptel mailing list >> Iptel@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >> _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 31 17:15:45 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWhwP-0001ii-2C; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:15:45 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWhwN-0001id-6y for iptel@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:15:43 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA15671 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWiAb-00043w-V9 for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:30:27 -0500 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2005 14:15:32 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,271,1125903600"; d="scan'208,217"; a="225823424:sNHT46315406" Received: from vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com (vtg-um-e2k4.cisco.com [171.70.93.57]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9VMFO8k023003; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:15:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.21.123.51 ([10.21.123.51]) by vtg-um-e2k4.sj21ad.cisco.com ([171.70.93.57]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:16:02 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:15:27 -0800 Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft From: Cullen Jennings To: Cullen Jennings , Michael P Hammer , James Yu , Richard Shockey Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft Thread-Index: AcXeSML4AUkSMko8EdqDDgARJEEJ/AAAF6JAAABlF7YAAwImgAADwfYoAAC0mig= In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Scan-Signature: 0bb031f3a6fb29f760794ac9bf1997ae Cc: "iptel@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0009262891==" Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org > This message is in MIME format. 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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3213612928_4774303 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I made those changes and put an updated version at http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jennings-iptel-tel-re g.html I labeled it NA instead of NULL On 10/31/05 1:55 PM, "Cullen Jennings" wrote: > > Sure, that was not what I had in mind but that sounds perfectly reasonable. > So enumdi and npdi will be NULL and all the others that are there right now > will stay Yes. > > > On 10/31/05 12:11 PM, "Michael Hammer (mhammer)" wrote: > >> Does "No" mean "Null" in this table? >> >> I thought Yes meant there are pre-defined values, look them up; >> while No meant make your own up as needed. >> >> Null would mean that the parameter takes no values. >> >> Mike >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org] >>> On Behalf Of Cullen Jennings (fluffy) >>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:42 PM >>> To: James Yu; Richard Shockey >>> Cc: iptel@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft >>> >>> >>> Oops - thanks. >>> >>> I added a line to table 1 that looks like >>> >>> npdi No [RFC BBBB] >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/31/05 10:30 AM, "Yu, James" wrote: >>> >>>> "npdi" >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org >>> [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf >>>> Of Cullen Jennings >>>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:28 PM >>>> To: Rich Shockey >>>> Cc: iptel@ietf.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/30/05 2:03 PM, "Richard Shockey" wrote: >>>> >>>>> I know this is a place holder but it will need all the parameters >>>>> from James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well. >>>> >>>> I think I got >>>> >>>> rn >>>> rn-context >>>> cic >>>> cic-context >>>> >>>> Any others I need from tel-np-07? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Iptel mailing list >>>> Iptel@ietf.org >>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Iptel mailing list >>> Iptel@ietf.org >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel --B_3213612928_4774303 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft
I made those changes and put an updated version at

http://scm.sipfoundry.org/rep/ietf-drafts/fluffy/draft-jen= nings-iptel-tel-reg.html

I labeled it NA instead of NULL



On 10/31/05 1:55 PM, "Cullen Jennings" <fluffy@cisco.com> w= rote:

>
> Sure, that was not what I had in mind but that sounds perfectly reason= able.
> So enumdi and npdi will be NULL and all the others that are there righ= t now
> will stay Yes.
>
>
> On 10/31/05 12:11 PM, "Michael Hammer (mhammer)" <mhammer= @cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> Does "No" mean "Null&q= uot; in this table?
>>
>> I thought Yes meant there are pre-defined values, look them up; >> while No meant make your own up as needed.
>>
>> Null would mean that the parameter takes no values.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
>>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:42 PM
>>> To: James Yu; Richard Shockey
>>> Cc: iptel@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft
>>>
>>>
>>> Oops - thanks.
>>>
>>> I added a line to table 1 that looks like
>>>
>>> npdi          &nb= sp;    No        &nbs= p;           [RFC BBB= B]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/05 10:30 AM, "Yu, James" <james.yu@neust= ar.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "npdi"
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: iptel-bounces@ietf.org
>>> [mailto:iptel-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf
>>>> Of Cullen Jennings
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:28 PM
>>>> To: Rich Shockey
>>>> Cc: iptel@ietf.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA Registry Draft
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/30/05 2:03 PM, "Richard Shockey" <richa= rd@shockey.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know this is a place holder but it will need all the= parameters
>>>>> from James Yu's draft tel-np-07 as well.
>>>>
>>>> I think I got
>>>>
>>>> rn        
>>>> rn-context     
>>>> cic          =   
>>>> cic-context   
>>>>
>>>> Any others I need from tel-np-07?
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Iptel mailing list
>>>> Iptel@ietf.org
>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Iptel mailing list
>>> Iptel@ietf.org
>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel
>>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Iptel mailing list
> Iptel@ietf.org
> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel
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