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charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel --===============1178781657==-- From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Fri May 16 06:02:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: iptel-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-iptel-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AFA28C1C2; Fri, 16 May 2008 06:02:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: iptel@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: iptel@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910CE28C1C2 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 06:02:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dXfOSoFNuiDk for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 06:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from insensate.co.uk (norman.insensate.co.uk [213.152.49.123]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3466A3A67A1 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 06:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by insensate.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF5B98012; Fri, 16 May 2008 14:02:35 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Message-Id: <769F607B-13E6-4E07-9B4B-54E51C38C8CD@insensate.co.uk> From: lconroy Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:02:33 +0100 To: "Yu, James" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Cc: fluffy@cisco.com, iptel@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Iptel] draft-ietf-iptel-reg-05 X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org James, this is just over 1 month beyond IETF LC. As an author on one of the RFCs referenced in the table, I believe that... The current tel-reg draft IS internally consistent - the last paragraph in section 3 (across pages 3 and 4) is clear, and the table reflects this. The description (earlier in section 3) for authors of future tel: parameters is also clear and precise on what needs to go into the required parameter description RFC. The recommendation to IANA on what should go into the updated table in their registry is also clear. I'm not comfortable with your proposed substantive change (i) There is no suggested alternative text for section 3, and for the recommendations to IANA on the maintenance of the table. (ii) It is unclear whether or not you have re-evaluated the RFCs referenced already in the table to ensure that they are consistent with your proposed re-interpretation of the column meaning. (iii) The registered namespaces are the parameter strings themselves, not the numeric/textual values that an individual parameter can hold after the "=". The second column entry is always dependent on the parameter label string, and that is specified in the RFC in which the parameter string is defined. => there is no potential for clash => why is any change needed? The current tel-reg draft IS internally consistent - the last paragraph in section 3 (across pages 3 and 4) is clear, and the table reflects this. The description (earlier in section 3) for authors of future tel: parameters is also clear and precise on what needs to go into the required parameter description RFC. The recommendation to IANA on what should go into the updated table in their registry is also clear. The draft works as-is (and has done for **years**). Whether it is the same as some other registry is not relevant to an IANA registry; I doubt that those registries are consistent with one another in their use of tables. Changing things now does not help, generates more work, and adds precisely nothing - if someone isn't going to read the guidance text, then chaning the logic of that text (and the table) isn't going to help. Lawrence On 16 May 2008, at 10:30, Yu, James wrote: > Cullen, Vijay, > > I was checking your I-D and RFC 3969 (for sip parameter > registration) and found that the "Yes/No" assignments in this I-D's > "Predefined Values" column is different from those in RFC 3969. > > In RFC 3969, for example, "ttl" has value "No" because that > parameter does not have any "registered" value, although it can > contain a value to indicate TTL length. > > In your I-D, the assaignments of "Yes" or "No" for the "Predefined > Values" column are based on if the parameter is a flag or not. > > Since the purpose of the I-D is to register "values" to avoid > duplicated assignments, any tel URI parameter that does not require > registration of predefined value(s) should be assigned "No" in > Table 1. > > James _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Fri May 16 08:48:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: iptel-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-iptel-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B6028C188; Fri, 16 May 2008 08:48:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: iptel@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: iptel@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D943128C188 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 08:48:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sFdP8fNi4qEW for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 08:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail3.lucent.com (ihemail3.lucent.com [135.245.0.37]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35403A6B3A for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 08:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from umail.lucent.com (h135-3-40-61.lucent.com [135.3.40.61]) by ihemail3.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id m4GFmFxE003711 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 16 May 2008 10:48:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [135.185.244.90] (il0015vkg1.ih.lucent.com [135.185.244.90]) by umail.lucent.com (8.13.8/TPES) with ESMTP id m4GFmCCU006102; Fri, 16 May 2008 10:48:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <482DACBE.2090505@alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:48:14 -0500 From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" Organization: Bell Labs Security Technology Research Group User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Yu, James" References: In-Reply-To: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.37 Cc: fluffy@cisco.com, iptel@ietf.org, lconroy@insensate.co.uk Subject: Re: [Iptel] draft-ietf-iptel-reg-05 X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Yu, James wrote: > Since the purpose of the I-D is to register "values" to avoid > duplicated assignments, any tel URI parameter that does not require > registration of predefined value(s) should be assigned "No" in Table > 1. [...] And Lawrence Conroy wrote: > Changing things now does not help, generates more work, and adds > precisely nothing - if someone isn't going to read the guidance text, > then chaning the logic of that text (and the table) isn't going to > help. James: By and large, I concur with Lawrence. However, during the IESG review, there was a COMMENT raised to clarify the table contents a bit more. Note that this was a COMMENT, and not a DISCUSS; so pedantically we could have left the table as-is; but I believe that addressing the COMMENT does do some good, and it may alleviate your problem as well. The suggested -- and accepted -- text does not deviate from what is currently there in -05, just uses different words to render equivalent impact more cleanly. Here is the change that was agreed to: Section 3: OLD Accordingly, the tel URI parameter registry contains a column that indicates whether or not each parameter only accepts a set of predefined values. The column can contain "Yes", or "No". A value of "Yes" in the column implies that certain predefined values exist for this parameter and the accompanying RFC or other permanent and readily available public specification should be consulted to find out the accepted set of values. A value of "No" in the column implies that the parameter is used either as a flag, or does not have a set of predefined values. The accompanying RFC or other permanent and readily available public specification should provide more information on the semantics of the parameter. NEW: Accordingly, the tel URI parameter registry contains a column that indicates whether or not each parameter accepts a value. The column may contain "No value" or "Constrained". A "Constrained" in the column implies that certain predefined values exist for this parameter and the accompanying RFC or other permanent and readily available public specification should be consulted to find out the accepted set of values. A "No Value" in the column implies that the parameter is used either as a flag, or does not have a set of predefined values. The accompanying RFC or other permanent and readily available public specification should provide more information on the semantics of the parameter. and accordingly, change the table as follows: OLD: Parameter Name Predefined Values Reference -------------- ----------------- --------- isub Yes [RFC 3966] isub-encoding Yes [RFC 4715] ext Yes [RFC 3966] phone-context Yes [RFC 3966] enumdi No [RFC 4759] npdi No [RFC 4694] rn Yes [RFC 4694] rn-context Yes [RFC 4694] cic Yes [RFC 4694] cic-context Yes [RFC 4694] tgrp Yes [RFC 4904] trunk-context Yes [RFC 4904] NEW: Parameter Name Value Type Reference -------------- ------------ --------- isub Constrained [RFC 3966] isub-encoding Constrained [RFC 4715] ext Constrained [RFC 3966] phone-context Constrained [RFC 3966] enumdi No value [RFC 4759] npdi No value [RFC 4694] rn Constrained [RFC 4694] rn-context Constrained [RFC 4694] cic Constrained [RFC 4694] cic-context Constrained [RFC 4694] tgrp Constrained [RFC 4904] trunk-context Constrained [RFC 4904] Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent 2701 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9F-546, Lisle, Illinois 60532 (USA) Email: vkg@{alcatel-lucent.com,bell-labs.com,acm.org} WWW: http://www.alcatel-lucent.com/bell-labs _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From iptel-bounces@ietf.org Fri May 16 09:18:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: iptel-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-iptel-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B5E3A6AD1; Fri, 16 May 2008 09:18:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: iptel@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: iptel@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15E83A67B7 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 09:18:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DYTz-J2vCly8 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 09:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from insensate.co.uk (norman.insensate.co.uk [213.152.49.123]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4603A6AD1 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 09:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by insensate.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79949812F; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:18:10 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <482DACBE.2090505@alcatel-lucent.com> References: <482DACBE.2090505@alcatel-lucent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Message-Id: From: lconroy Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 17:18:08 +0100 To: Vijay K.Gurbani X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Cc: fluffy@cisco.com, iptel@ietf.org, "Yu, James" Subject: Re: [Iptel] draft-ietf-iptel-reg-05 X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IP Telephony List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-bounces@ietf.org Hi Vijay, folks, Your/the IESG's solution is fine - it is even clearer, which is always good. I look forward to seeing this as an RFC real soon now :). all the best, Lawrence On 16 May 2008, at 16:48, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote: > Yu, James wrote: >> Since the purpose of the I-D is to register "values" to avoid >> duplicated assignments, any tel URI parameter that does not require >> registration of predefined value(s) should be assigned "No" in Table >> 1. > [...] > > And Lawrence Conroy wrote: >> Changing things now does not help, generates more work, and adds >> precisely nothing - if someone isn't going to read the guidance text, >> then chaning the logic of that text (and the table) isn't going to >> help. > > James: By and large, I concur with Lawrence. However, during the IESG > review, there was a COMMENT raised to clarify the table contents a > bit more. Note that this was a COMMENT, and not a DISCUSS; so > pedantically we could have left the table as-is; but I believe that > addressing the COMMENT does do some good, and it may alleviate your > problem as well. The suggested -- and accepted -- text does not > deviate from what is currently there in -05, just uses different > words to render equivalent impact more cleanly. > > Here is the change that was agreed to: > > Section 3: > OLD > > Accordingly, the tel URI parameter registry contains a column > that > indicates whether or not each parameter only accepts a set of > predefined values. The column can contain "Yes", or "No". A > value > of "Yes" in the column implies that certain predefined values > exist > for this parameter and the accompanying RFC or other permanent > and > readily available public specification should be consulted to > find > out the accepted set of values. A value of "No" in the column > implies that the parameter is used either as a flag, or does not > have a set of predefined values. The accompanying RFC or other > permanent and readily available public specification should > provide > more information on the semantics of the parameter. > > NEW: > > Accordingly, the tel URI parameter registry contains a column > that > indicates whether or not each parameter accepts a value. The > column may contain "No value" or "Constrained". A "Constrained" > in the column implies that certain predefined values exist for > this parameter and the accompanying RFC or other permanent and > readily available public specification should be consulted to > find > out the accepted set of values. A "No Value" in the column > implies that the parameter is used either as a flag, or does not > have a set of predefined values. The accompanying RFC or other > permanent and readily available public specification should > provide > more information on the semantics of the parameter. > > and accordingly, change the table as follows: > > OLD: > > Parameter Name Predefined Values Reference > -------------- ----------------- --------- > isub Yes [RFC 3966] > isub-encoding Yes [RFC 4715] > ext Yes [RFC 3966] > phone-context Yes [RFC 3966] > enumdi No [RFC 4759] > npdi No [RFC 4694] > rn Yes [RFC 4694] > rn-context Yes [RFC 4694] > cic Yes [RFC 4694] > cic-context Yes [RFC 4694] > tgrp Yes [RFC 4904] > trunk-context Yes [RFC 4904] > > NEW: > > Parameter Name Value Type Reference > -------------- ------------ --------- > isub Constrained [RFC 3966] > isub-encoding Constrained [RFC 4715] > ext Constrained [RFC 3966] > phone-context Constrained [RFC 3966] > enumdi No value [RFC 4759] > npdi No value [RFC 4694] > rn Constrained [RFC 4694] > rn-context Constrained [RFC 4694] > cic Constrained [RFC 4694] > cic-context Constrained [RFC 4694] > tgrp Constrained [RFC 4904] > trunk-context Constrained [RFC 4904] > > Thanks, > > - vijay > -- > Vijay K. 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