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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Isis-wg] WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt beforeCCAMP LC Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:03:22 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Isis-wg] WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt beforeCCAMP LC Thread-Index: AcbBlrOn8na8xS2JEdusxgAKlcR7kgBLji3w From: "Stephen Nadas \(RL/TNT\)" To: "David Ward" , , , , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2006 13:03:23.0226 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF9D1BA0:01C6C2C6] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a87a9cdae4ac5d3fbeee75cd0026d632 Cc: X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org My comments are as follows:=20 Abstract=20 -------- 1st sentence:=20 s/set up/setup/ s/Path/Paths/ Introduction=20 ------------ 3rd para:=20 consider: s/well identified/pre-identified/ I suspect this is closer to what is meant=20 4th para:=20 s/set up/setup/ section 2. ---------- last para, last sent. consider s/one or more/zero or more/ section 3.2.=20 ------------ consider:=20 - A Tail-end address (used as the TE LSP tail-end address by other LSRs ^^^ =20 belonging to the same mesh-group when they setup LSPs to this LSR). =20 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^=20 section 4.1=20 ----------- 1st para under figure 1 and=20 section 4.2 -----------=20 1st para=20 consider putting penultimate sentence of the para 1st and as a separate paragraph. (ie "The TE-MESH-GROUP TLV is used to advertise the desire of=20 an LSR to join/leave a given TE mesh-group.") this would separate some=20 of the TLV coding details from the reason for sending it=20 section 5. ---------- what is behavior when TE-MESG-GROUP TLV appears more than once?=20 Undefined? 1st TLV wins? Last TLV wins?=20 =20 section 5.1. ------------=20 2nd para, 1st sent. s/TLV changes/TLVs change/ =20 =09 section 5.1 (2nd para) & 5,2 (1st para) =20 --------------------------------------- consider =20 When an LSR wants to join another mesh group, the information for that new mesh group will be added to the TE-MESH-GROUP TLV; conversely, when the LSR leaves a mesh-group the information for that mesh-group will be removed from the TE-MESH-GROUP TLV. instead of=20 In the case of a join, a new entry will be added to the TE-MESH-GROUP TLV; conversely, if the LSR leaves a mesh-group the corresponding entry will be removed from the TE-MESH-GROUP TLV.=20 Steve=20 Stephen Nadas Ericsson IPI =20 stephen.nadas@ericsson.com 920 Main Campus Dr.=20 Voice: +1-919-472-9935 Fax: x/9999 Suite 500=20 Mobile: +1-919-522-0991 ECN: 802 29935 Raleigh, NC 27606 -----Original Message----- From: David Ward [mailto:dward@cisco.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:47 PM To: isis-wg@ietf.org; David Ward; adrian@olddog.co.uk; chopps@rawdofmt.org; fenner@research.att.com; rcallon@juniper.net; jpv@cisco.com Subject: [Isis-wg] WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt beforeCCAMP LC All - Please give final review and last comments on draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt as the CCAMP WG would like to LC the document. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt -DWard _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 18 21:05:15 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GEFGX-00012Y-25; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:04:45 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GEFGV-00012O-Ii for isis-wg@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:04:43 -0400 Received: from colo-dns-ext1.juniper.net ([207.17.137.57]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GEFGT-0001xg-77 for isis-wg@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:04:43 -0400 Received: from merlot.juniper.net (merlot.juniper.net [172.17.27.10]) by colo-dns-ext1.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id k7J14NX08605; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:04:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rcallon@juniper.net) Received: from rcallon-lt1.juniper.net ([172.23.1.15]) by merlot.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id k7J14Gg68188; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rcallon@juniper.net) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20060818205719.016b5650@zircon.juniper.net> X-Sender: rcallon@zircon.juniper.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:04:11 -0400 To: David Ward , From: Ross Callon In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Cc: rcallon@juniper.net, adrian@olddog.co.uk, fenner@research.att.com, chopps@rawdofmt.org, jpv@cisco.com Subject: [Isis-wg] Re: WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt before CCAMP LC X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org At 07:47 PM 8/16/2006 -0500, David Ward wrote: >All - > > Please give final review and last comments on >draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt as the CCAMP WG would like to LC the >document. > >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt > > >-DWard Just to be clear on process: This document has already been last called in the CCAMP working group and been submitted to the IESG for publication. However, since this document makes changes / extensions to IS-IS (and to OSPF), it needs to be last called also in the IS-IS (and OSPF) working group(s). We would appreciate comments if any within the next two weeks, particularly on any implications that this could have on the overall operation of IS-IS. Thanks, Ross _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 24 02:47:03 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GG8z5-0005zN-Cb; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 02:46:35 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GG8z3-0005zI-WF for isis-wg@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 02:46:34 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GG8z2-00063E-Jr for isis-wg@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 02:46:33 -0400 Received: from sj-dkim-6.cisco.com ([171.68.10.81]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 23 Aug 2006 23:45:59 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,163,1154934000"; d="scan'208"; a="313443497:sNHT88138080896" Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com (sj-core-4.cisco.com [171.68.223.138]) by sj-dkim-6.cisco.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k7O6jxP3015291; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:45:59 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k7O6jw6W003952; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmb-sjc-222.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.106]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:45:58 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Isis-wg] WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt beforeCCAMP LC Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:45:57 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Isis-wg] WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt beforeCCAMP LC Thread-Index: AcbBlrOn8na8xS2JEdusxgAKlcR7kgFr74pg From: "Les Ginsberg \(ginsberg\)" To: "David Ward" , , , , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2006 06:45:58.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4C19D60:01C6C748] DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; l=2027; t=1156401959; x=1157265959; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim6002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=ginsberg@cisco.com; z=From:=22Les=20Ginsberg=20\(ginsberg\)=22=20 |Subject:RE=3A=20[Isis-wg]=20WG=20review=20of=20draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt= 20beforeCCAMP=20LC; X=v=3Dcisco.com=3B=20h=3DAbV1JGEjWbFTCk7JDGYiVkDOu/c=3D; b=HfQ4XtWP28hbWyOrHhSBoDOQ3L3l/sE9VTWp9eyWH6h/26MLbRHa7jR1z2cMzGaChu/ypfQF Je0+CCytvI2cVxf+gglqQ8+Eaxy+lel01Z73oqd1hX2+AqfY4DBJxfiS; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-6.cisco.com; header.From=ginsberg@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3e15cc4fdc61d7bce84032741d11c8e5 Cc: X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Several Issues: 1)It seems clear that the sections relating to IS-IS need revision on at least one fundamental issue. The text refers to "TLV" - but in fact the mesh group information will be a sub-TLV carried inside the proposed capabilities TLV. This affects the wording in a number of places. I leave it to the authors to provide a revision. 2)As to the actual "sub-TLV format" described in Section 4.2: a)I am wondering what the value of the "name_length" byte is? Given that there is a sub-TLV length why do we need this byte? b)The tail-end name is specified to require a NULL terminator. This is unnecessary, because of the sub-TLV length. It also differs in format from the format used for hostnames in RFC 2763 - which is specified to NOT include the NULL terminator. Was any consideration given to consistency? 3)I would also prefer in Section 5.2 where there is a discussion of flooding scope, that rather than specify the settings of specific bits (the S bit in this case) that the document simply refer to the IS-IS Capabilities draft and indicate that the procedures specified therein MUST be followed. This will avoid any possible ambiguity as to whether both documents describe the same behavior. Les > -----Original Message----- > From: David Ward [mailto:dward@cisco.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:47 PM > To: isis-wg@ietf.org; David Ward; adrian@olddog.co.uk; > chopps@rawdofmt.org; fenner@research.att.com; rcallon@juniper.net; > jpv@cisco.com > Subject: [Isis-wg] WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt > beforeCCAMP LC >=20 > All - >=20 > Please give final review and last comments on > draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt as the CCAMP WG would like to LC the > document. >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt >=20 >=20 > -DWard >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Isis-wg mailing list > Isis-wg@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Aug 29 21:10:12 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIEZF-0004Ru-Pz; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:08:33 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIEZE-0004Ri-Va for isis-wg@ietf.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:08:32 -0400 Received: from stsc1260-eth-s1-s1p1-vip.va.neustar.com ([156.154.16.129] helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIC34-0000qH-TM for isis-wg@ietf.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:27:10 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIBWP-0007i8-8M for isis-wg@ietf.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:53:28 -0400 Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Aug 2006 14:53:24 -0700 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k7TLrObj030954 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:53:24 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k7TLrOQV007833 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmb-sjc-222.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.106]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:53:24 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Isis-wg] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-isis-wg-extlsp-00.txt Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:53:23 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Isis-wg] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-isis-wg-extlsp-00.txt Thread-Index: AcaP6/LOoYfitpl5QaOF23cz1fU5uA7ySofg From: "Les Ginsberg \(ginsberg\)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2006 21:53:24.0321 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D165D10:01C6CBB5] DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; l=1278; t=1156888404; x=1157752404; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=ginsberg@cisco.com; z=From:=22Les=20Ginsberg=20\(ginsberg\)=22=20 |Subject:RE=3A=20[Isis-wg]=20I-D=20ACTION=3Adraft-ietf-isis-wg-extlsp-00.txt=20; X=v=3Dcisco.com=3B=20h=3DyCjpRHETxn/foBiEftPT3TdMYWY=3D; b=J3VgbHcwYQGutwufGpfeLhznqeJR6bmuXJvEVY3PKEqQKnintFgGMoUWbUKwNzd4WLHUaa79 yZGmvu9hD2iAFv2Lg+a1i6O1hMwNS4W0XO7uwnLHzRMkl7uJHL4JF4UG; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3.cisco.com; header.From=ginsberg@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com verified; ); X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Folks - In the absence of any comments on this revision of the draft I am expecting to ask the chairs to move this to last call. If there are any of you out there who have been holding back on your comments - NOW would be a good time to voice them. :-) Thanx. Les > -----Original Message----- > From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org] > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:50 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org > Subject: [Isis-wg] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-isis-wg-extlsp-00.txt >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the IS-IS for IP Internets Working Group of > the IETF. >=20 > Title : Simplified Extension of LSP Space for IS-IS > Author(s) : L. Ginsberg, et al. > Filename : draft-ietf-isis-wg-extlsp-00.txt > Pages : 13 > Date : 2006-6-14 >=20 > This draft describes a simplified method for extending the LSP space > beyond the 256 Link State PDU (LSP) limit defined in ISO 10589. This > method is intended as a preferred replacement for the method defined > in RFC 3786. >=20 >=20 > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-isis-wg-extlsp-00.txt >=20 _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 31 07:05:02 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIkKf-0005aQ-76; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:03:37 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIkKd-0005aJ-Ut for isis-wg@ietf.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:03:35 -0400 Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIkKb-0005Fv-Iw for isis-wg@ietf.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:03:35 -0400 Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Aug 2006 07:03:33 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,193,1154923200"; d="scan'208"; a="99951103:sNHT34713320" Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k7VB3XhW014092; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:03:33 -0400 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k7VB3WdM017206; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.21]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:03:32 -0400 Received: from [10.86.104.178] ([10.86.104.178]) by xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:03:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2BB018EB-0C99-4F86-B12A-E10BDC7A4C10@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: JP Vasseur Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt beforeCCAMP LC Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:03:28 -0400 To: "Stephen Nadas \(RL/TNT\)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Aug 2006 11:03:31.0828 (UTC) FILETIME=[18939B40:01C6CCED] DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; l=2072; t=1157022213; x=1157886213; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim1001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=jvasseur@cisco.com; z=From:JP=20Vasseur=20 |Subject:Re=3A=20[Isis-wg]=20WG=20review=20of=20draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt= 20beforeCCAMP=20LC |To:=22Stephen=20Nadas=20\(RL/TNT\)=22=20; X=v=3Dcisco.com=3B=20h=3DZCDv0S0+xxWOjglKVNlvnVJtkko=3D; b=WYig9Mphx8ZURfPWgSYna5nC9j22fUNLI+fjZZjRZyqcXnJ0An+jZe4zLWupiQFBPhmg3Lmk K/MNyVdie87kX42/nLVuRN1t8pVr6XVvRA0aMrT99ThmwfgtT5FKtpmX; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com; header.From=jvasseur@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b280b4db656c3ca28dd62e5e0b03daa8 Cc: chopps@rawdofmt.org, isis-wg@ietf.org, fenner@research.att.com, jpv@cisco.com, rcallon@juniper.net, adrian@olddog.co.uk X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Hi Stephen, Thanks for your comments that will be incorporated in a new revision - Few comments below, On Aug 18, 2006, at 3:03 PM, Stephen Nadas ((RL/TNT)) wrote: > My comments are as follows: > > section 2. > ---------- > last para, last sent. consider s/one or more/zero or more/ > Has been replaced by "An LSR may belong to more than one TE mesh-group (s)". > section 3.2. > ------------ > consider: > - A Tail-end address (used as the TE LSP tail-end address by > other LSRs > ^^^ > belonging to the same mesh-group when they setup LSPs to > this > LSR). > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The current text in the document is actually correct. > > section 5. > ---------- > what is behavior when TE-MESG-GROUP TLV appears more than once? > Undefined? 1st TLV wins? Last TLV wins? > "The TE-MESH-GROUP TLV is OPTIONAL and must at most appear once in a OSPF Router Information LSA or ISIS Router Capability TLV." Note that must is actually a MUST. > > Thanks. JP. > > Steve > > Stephen Nadas Ericsson IPI > stephen.nadas@ericsson.com 920 Main Campus Dr. > Voice: +1-919-472-9935 Fax: x/9999 Suite 500 > Mobile: +1-919-522-0991 ECN: 802 29935 Raleigh, NC 27606 > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Ward [mailto:dward@cisco.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:47 PM > To: isis-wg@ietf.org; David Ward; adrian@olddog.co.uk; > chopps@rawdofmt.org; fenner@research.att.com; rcallon@juniper.net; > jpv@cisco.com > Subject: [Isis-wg] WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt > beforeCCAMP LC > > All - > > Please give final review and last comments on > draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt as the CCAMP WG would like to LC the > document. > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt > > > -DWard > > > _______________________________________________ > Isis-wg mailing list > Isis-wg@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 31 15:07:24 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIrsI-0005CQ-RW; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:06:50 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIrsH-0005CL-4B for isis-wg@ietf.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:06:49 -0400 Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIrsF-000424-QP for isis-wg@ietf.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:06:49 -0400 Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Aug 2006 15:06:47 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,195,1154923200"; d="scan'208"; a="100068033:sNHT34439944" Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k7VJ6lRb003790; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:06:47 -0400 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k7VJ6kuI026824; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.38]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:06:46 -0400 Received: from [10.86.104.178] ([10.86.104.178]) by xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:06:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <703D6352-DC5D-44EC-A6D1-621B6B00E558@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: JP Vasseur Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt beforeCCAMP LC Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:06:42 -0400 To: "Les Ginsberg \(ginsberg\)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Aug 2006 19:06:46.0226 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A95A320:01C6CD30] DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; l=2675; t=1157051207; x=1157915207; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim1001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=jvasseur@cisco.com; z=From:JP=20Vasseur=20 |Subject:Re=3A=20[Isis-wg]=20WG=20review=20of=20draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt= 20beforeCCAMP=20LC |To:=22Les=20Ginsberg=20\(ginsberg\)=22=20; X=v=3Dcisco.com=3B=20h=3DZCDv0S0+xxWOjglKVNlvnVJtkko=3D; b=XvD2EpuU6PXsWmzEwtkxW+H0efxqIMARc5re0vdqi/9qo92nPbZCkhig4JtQ/9bcSPrkhCni 8KLp2NaBaM4Y75AmAhTP+Qtr/wDp3Ac5J5nc5Oi8oy2/tHgVtnozbus4; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com; header.From=jvasseur@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 73734d43604d52d23b3eba644a169745 Cc: chopps@rawdofmt.org, isis-wg@ietf.org, fenner@research.att.com, jpv@cisco.com, rcallon@juniper.net, adrian@olddog.co.uk X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Hi Les, Thanks for your comments - see in line, On Aug 24, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Les Ginsberg ((ginsberg)) wrote: > Several Issues: > > 1)It seems clear that the sections relating to IS-IS need revision > on at > least one fundamental issue. The text refers to "TLV" - but in fact > the > mesh group information will be a sub-TLV carried inside the proposed > capabilities TLV. This affects the wording in a number of places. I > leave it to the authors to provide a revision. Done. > > 2)As to the actual "sub-TLV format" described in Section 4.2: > > a)I am wondering what the value of the "name_length" byte is? Given > that > there is a sub-TLV length why do we need this byte? > Because you may have multiple TE mesh-group advertise in the same TE- MESH-GROUP TLV. I'll clarify that a single TE-MESH-GROUP TLV may carry more than one group of entries where an entry correspond to a TE mesh-group, > b)The tail-end name is specified to require a NULL terminator. This is > unnecessary, because of the sub-TLV length. It also differs in format > from the format used for hostnames in RFC 2763 - which is specified to > NOT include the NULL terminator. Was any consideration given to > consistency? > Good point indeed, the NULL terminator can indeed be removed. This is fixed, thanks. > 3)I would also prefer in Section 5.2 where there is a discussion of > flooding scope, that rather than specify the settings of specific bits > (the S bit in this case) that the document simply refer to the IS-IS > Capabilities draft and indicate that the procedures specified therein > MUST be followed. This will avoid any possible ambiguity as to whether > both documents describe the same behavior. > Well I'd prefer to keep it to show how these bits should be set in that particular context. Thanks. JP. > Les > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Ward [mailto:dward@cisco.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:47 PM >> To: isis-wg@ietf.org; David Ward; adrian@olddog.co.uk; >> chopps@rawdofmt.org; fenner@research.att.com; rcallon@juniper.net; >> jpv@cisco.com >> Subject: [Isis-wg] WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt >> beforeCCAMP LC >> >> All - >> >> Please give final review and last comments on >> draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt as the CCAMP WG would like to LC >> the >> document. >> >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-01.txt >> >> >> -DWard >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Isis-wg mailing list >> Isis-wg@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg