From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Fri Dec 3 09:04:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E3628C104 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 09:04:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.112 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.112 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.137, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F0X7D87R5XeW for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 09:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B8928C0EB for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 09:04:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.48]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437AFC0016 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:05:26 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lylcbwBdMcie; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:05:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939E1C0015; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:05:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4136C15DCF7E; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:05:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:05:22 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: isms@ietf.org Message-ID: <20101203170522.GA2769@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: isms@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: [Isms] ietf 79 isms wg meeting minutes X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 17:04:10 -0000 Hi, I have uploaded the minutes of the ISMS meeting in Beijing: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/79/minutes/isms.txt Please let me know if something is missing or not accurately recorded in the minutes. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Thu Dec 9 17:31:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B8628C153; Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:31:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.059 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.059 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_93=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K26an8L3-G27; Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::2f]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A4728C11E; Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 4AB75E0715; Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:33:09 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20101210013309.4AB75E0715@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:33:09 -0800 (PST) Cc: isms@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Isms] RFC 6065 on Using Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting Services to Dynamically Provision View-Based Access Control Model User-to-Group Mappings X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 01:31:39 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6065 Title: Using Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting Services to Dynamically Provision View-Based Access Control Model User-to-Group Mappings Author: K. Narayan, D. Nelson, R. Presuhn, Ed. Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: December 2010 Mailbox: kaushik_narayan@yahoo.com, d.b.nelson@comcast.net, randy_presuhn@mindspring.com Pages: 19 Characters: 39695 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-isms-radius-vacm-11.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6065.txt This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB) for use with network management protocols. It describes the use of information provided by Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting (AAA) services, such as the Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service (RADIUS), to dynamically update user-to-group mappings in the View-based Access Control Model (VACM). [STANDARDS-TRACK] This document is a product of the Integrated Security Model for SNMP Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Internet Official Protocol Standards (STD 1) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. To subscribe or unsubscribe, see http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist For searching the RFC series, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.html. For downloading RFCs, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html. Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. Unless specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for unlimited distribution. The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From turners@ieca.com Fri Dec 10 05:49:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF1828C0E1 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:49:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.217 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.217 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.219, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_93=0.6, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WV4ONvpGY1E8 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nm15.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm15.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.212]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 683CF28C0D0 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [98.139.52.194] by nm15.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2010 13:50:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.174] by tm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2010 13:50:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2010 13:50:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 219163.74236.bm@omp1057.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 7515 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2010 13:50:32 -0000 Received: from thunderfish.local (turners@71.191.15.81 with plain) by smtp111.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2010 05:50:31 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: ZrP3VLSswBDL75pF8ymZHDSu9B.vcMfDPgLJ X-YMail-OSG: fXKDkdYVM1ljNTZrB_GpleyNdn4TL8eBsXp4rCjd8svruTF H0arJpg4WA_Ao0yyd.eD4kfuCQIZH6mb5B9sxCP70JTi2xb4VHxTvIP2gvFt _2y9d_SstQYRvQasAIyqDYeP7O8EYXkUt6m9_oFT70kfMqr_AF.Y.CTtkIrz Qu7qwEn6iLQz9_UYEKcVEV1Qk5mSmaBpZoaks9nc7oOlWF9YVAJ0Zq2a2pZi qQ65GC6tXTGhhm8IPH7Hua3NagnUBepTb6USVcQgxSFdVXKLzaTrr8T9DZkC NSpF5ZCLedxecxIg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4D023028.2070800@ieca.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:50:32 -0500 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isms@ietf.org References: <20101210013309.4AB75E0715@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: <20101210013309.4AB75E0715@rfc-editor.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Isms] RFC 6065 on Using Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting Services to Dynamically Provision View-Based Access Control Model User-to-Group Mappings X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:49:08 -0000 Congrats to all involved! spt On 12/9/10 8:33 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: > > A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. > > > RFC 6065 > > Title: Using Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting > Services to Dynamically Provision View-Based Access > Control Model User-to-Group Mappings > Author: K. Narayan, D. Nelson, > R. Presuhn, Ed. > Status: Standards Track > Stream: IETF > Date: December 2010 > Mailbox: kaushik_narayan@yahoo.com, > d.b.nelson@comcast.net, > randy_presuhn@mindspring.com > Pages: 19 > Characters: 39695 > Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None > > I-D Tag: draft-ietf-isms-radius-vacm-11.txt > > URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6065.txt > > This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB) > for use with network management protocols. It describes the use of > information provided by Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting > (AAA) services, such as the Remote Authentication Dial-In User > Service (RADIUS), to dynamically update user-to-group mappings in the > View-based Access Control Model (VACM). [STANDARDS-TRACK] > > This document is a product of the Integrated Security Model for SNMP Working Group of the IETF. > > This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol. > > STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track > protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions > for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Internet > Official Protocol Standards (STD 1) for the standardization state and > status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. > > This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. > To subscribe or unsubscribe, see > http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist > > For searching the RFC series, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.html. > For downloading RFCs, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html. > > Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the > author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. Unless > specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for > unlimited distribution. > > > The RFC Editor Team > Association Management Solutions, LLC > > > _______________________________________________ > Isms mailing list > Isms@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isms > From ietfdbh@comcast.net Fri Dec 10 05:53:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2DC3A6B07 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:53:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.255 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.255 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.256, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_93=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HahfRAHIKmG7 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:53:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250DF3A6AE8 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:53:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id hP1z1f0021c6gX858Rv6aD; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:55:06 +0000 Received: from 23FX1C1 ([67.189.235.106]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id hRv51f00U2JQnJT3jRv678; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:55:06 +0000 From: "David Harrington" To: References: <20101210013309.4AB75E0715@rfc-editor.org> <4D023028.2070800@ieca.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:54:47 -0500 Message-ID: <5CF1BEAB386540BEBF3026C2FE92FF15@23FX1C1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4D023028.2070800@ieca.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcuYcTzcQFGO6HVRS9O5vwEDnDkDgQAAG2mg Subject: Re: [Isms] RFC 6065 on Using Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting Services to Dynamically Provision View-Based Access Control Model User-to-Group Mappings X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:53:35 -0000 A long tough slog ... Congratulations! dbh > -----Original Message----- > From: isms-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isms-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Sean Turner > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 8:51 AM > To: isms@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Isms] RFC 6065 on Using Authentication, > Authorization, and Accounting Services to Dynamically > Provision View-Based Access Control Model User-to-Group Mappings > > Congrats to all involved! > > spt > > On 12/9/10 8:33 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: > > > > A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. > > > > > > RFC 6065 > > > > Title: Using Authentication, Authorization, > and Accounting > > Services to Dynamically Provision > View-Based Access > > Control Model User-to-Group Mappings > > Author: K. Narayan, D. Nelson, > > R. Presuhn, Ed. > > Status: Standards Track > > Stream: IETF > > Date: December 2010 > > Mailbox: kaushik_narayan@yahoo.com, > > d.b.nelson@comcast.net, > > randy_presuhn@mindspring.com > > Pages: 19 > > Characters: 39695 > > Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None > > > > I-D Tag: draft-ietf-isms-radius-vacm-11.txt > > > > URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6065.txt > > > > This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB) > > for use with network management protocols. It describes the use of > > information provided by Authentication, Authorization, and > Accounting > > (AAA) services, such as the Remote Authentication Dial-In User > > Service (RADIUS), to dynamically update user-to-group > mappings in the > > View-based Access Control Model (VACM). [STANDARDS-TRACK] > > > > This document is a product of the Integrated Security Model > for SNMP Working Group of the IETF. > > > > This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol. > > > > STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track > > protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion > and suggestions > > for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of > the Internet > > Official Protocol Standards (STD 1) for the standardization > state and > > status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. > > > > This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, see > > http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > > http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist > > > > For searching the RFC series, see > http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.html. > > For downloading RFCs, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html. > > > > Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the > > author of the RFC in question, or to > rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. Unless > > specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for > > unlimited distribution. > > > > > > The RFC Editor Team > > Association Management Solutions, LLC > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Isms mailing list > > Isms@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isms > > > _______________________________________________ > Isms mailing list > Isms@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isms From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Fri Dec 10 12:46:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E82B28C13A for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:46:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.088 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.088 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.161, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ht62rO4xgkQb for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1867E28C155 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.46]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5E4C0022 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:48:29 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kTbtjz7HpMKc; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:48:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA47C0021; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:48:29 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0248A15EACC4; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:48:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:48:24 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: isms@ietf.org Message-ID: <20101210204824.GC975@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: isms@ietf.org References: <20101210013309.4AB75E0715@rfc-editor.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101210013309.4AB75E0715@rfc-editor.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [Isms] RFC 6065 on Using Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting Services to Dynamically Provision View-Based Access Control Model User-to-Group Mappings X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 20:46:59 -0000 On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 05:33:09PM -0800, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: > RFC 6065 > > Title: Using Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting > Services to Dynamically Provision View-Based Access > Control Model User-to-Group Mappings > Author: K. Narayan, D. Nelson, > R. Presuhn, Ed. I like to thank the authors/editors and I like to congratulate the WG as a whole to have completed the charter. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From wjhns1@hardakers.net Sat Dec 11 09:14:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC6A3A6C98 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:14:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.058 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.058 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.542, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4VT4nfiufds5 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hardakers.net (mail.hardakers.net [168.150.236.43]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675BF3A6B52 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wjh.hardakers.net [10.0.0.2]) by mail.hardakers.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4B9E27311; Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:15:41 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Hardaker To: "David Harrington" Organization: Sparta References: <20101210013309.4AB75E0715@rfc-editor.org> <4D023028.2070800@ieca.com> <5CF1BEAB386540BEBF3026C2FE92FF15@23FX1C1> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:15:41 -0800 In-Reply-To: <5CF1BEAB386540BEBF3026C2FE92FF15@23FX1C1> (David Harrington's message of "Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:54:47 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: isms@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isms] RFC 6065 on Using Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting Services to Dynamically Provision View-Based Access Control Model User-to-Group Mappings X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:14:41 -0000 >>>>> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:54:47 -0500, "David Harrington" said: DH> A long tough slog ... Congratulations! Which makes the work all that more valuable! Excellent work! -- Wes Hardaker Cobham Analytic Solutions From randy_presuhn@mindspring.com Sat Dec 11 09:53:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0BD3A6B52 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:53:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.345 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.345 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.395, BAYES_20=-0.74, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XFuoi-jSEDVR for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7E93A6B23 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:53:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=fPYaRFLNOQ8Dk2vuvj6jzfpQ6NCEKWwK26ew2qCzBxGy12ppy8iRbqyVC1qYnlpx; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [99.60.5.191] (helo=oemcomputer) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1PRTfF-0005vl-7P for isms@ietf.org; Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:55:21 -0500 Message-ID: <000401cb995c$b64afdc0$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: References: <20101210013309.4AB75E0715@rfc-editor.org><4D023028.2070800@ieca.com> <5CF1BEAB386540BEBF3026C2FE92FF15@23FX1C1> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:56:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-ELNK-Trace: 4488c18417c9426da92b9037bc8bcf44d4c20f6b8d69d888d26d9b9edb73dbfb3c4f567b2d37092fb9e41fae55c85660350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.60.5.191 Subject: Re: [Isms] RFC 6065 on Using Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting Services to Dynamically Provision View-BasedAccess Control Model User-to-Group Mappings X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:53:48 -0000 Hi - > From: "Wes Hardaker" > To: "David Harrington" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: [Isms] RFC 6065 on Using Authentication, Authorization,and Accounting Services to Dynamically Provision View-BasedAccess Control Model User-to-Group Mappings > > >>>>> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:54:47 -0500, "David Harrington" said: > > DH> A long tough slog ... Congratulations! > > Which makes the work all that more valuable! Excellent work! (On behalf of the team: Thanks!) Are there implementations yet? Randy From Robert.Story@cobham.com Mon Dec 13 08:54:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D193A6CB5 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:54:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.135 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.135 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.464, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4nQhF4ADDgfH for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:54:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5129C3A6CAD for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id oBDGtnAP001410 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:55:49 -0600 Received: from mailbin2.ads.sparta.com (mailbin.sparta.com [157.185.85.6]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oBDGtntu010522 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:55:49 -0600 Received: from sparta.com ([76.122.68.129]) by mailbin2.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:55:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:55:44 -0500 From: Robert Story To: isms@ietf.org Message-ID: <20101213115544.32cdf17f@sparta.com> Organization: SPARTA X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/qahaxs=YuYD9wmrs32Rvx6I"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2010 16:55:49.0727 (UTC) FILETIME=[9839C6F0:01CB9AE6] Subject: [Isms] RFC 5953 interoperability report X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:54:13 -0000 --Sig_/qahaxs=YuYD9wmrs32Rvx6I Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MP_/MDANwpgRJUsy_QxGyVypm3/" --MP_/MDANwpgRJUsy_QxGyVypm3/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline The Net-SNMP and SNMP Research teams have been testing the interoperability of our implementations of RFC 5953. 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List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 19:08:23 -0000 Hello, As an implementor of RFC 5953 at SNMP Research, I concur with the statements in RFC 5953 interoperability report. The core SNMP protocol operations DO interoperate over (D)TLS between the SNMP Research and Net-SNMP implement- ations, and the issues identified are implementation issues, NOT issues with RFC 5953 specification itself. Regards, --Alan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alan Luchuk SNMP Research, Inc. Voice: +1 865 573 1434 Senior Software Engineer 3001 Kimberlin Heights Road FAX: +1 865 573 9197 luchuk at snmp.com Knoxville, TN 37920-9716 http://www.snmp.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Tue Dec 14 23:34:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352583A6E40 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:34:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.345 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.345 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.255, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p4AMJsaHATfJ for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:34:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::2f]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734B83A6D7A for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:34:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 93393E070C; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:36:33 -0800 (PST) To: ietf@hardakers.net, turners@ieca.com, tim.polk@nist.gov, Russ.Mundy@sparta.com, j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20101215073633.93393E070C@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:36:33 -0800 (PST) Cc: isms@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Isms] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5953 (2670) X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 07:34:52 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5953, "Transport Layer Security (TLS) Transport Model for the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5953&eid=2670 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Juergen Schoenwaelder Section: A.1 Original Text ------------- snmpTargetParamsRowStatus = 4 (createAndGo0 Corrected Text -------------- snmpTargetParamsRowStatus = 4 (createAndGo) Notes ----- This is a typo - the shift key was not hit hard enough and hence the closing parenthesis became a 0. Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC5953 (draft-ietf-isms-dtls-tm-14) -------------------------------------- Title : Transport Layer Security (TLS) Transport Model for the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) Publication Date : August 2010 Author(s) : W. Hardaker Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Integrated Security Model for SNMP Area : Security Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Tue Dec 14 23:35:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630213A6E40 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:35:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.152, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yfawKahNZ1Cp for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:35:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208F03A6E7C for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:35:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius2.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.47]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECECDC0034; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:36:43 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius2.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EQqcn1GVEIYV; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:36:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEB2C001C; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:36:43 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0BCCD15F08E8; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:36:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:36:35 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: Robert Story Message-ID: <20101215073635.GE12099@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Story , isms@ietf.org References: <20101213115544.32cdf17f@sparta.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101213115544.32cdf17f@sparta.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: isms@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isms] RFC 5953 interoperability report X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 07:35:04 -0000 On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:55:44AM -0500, Robert Story wrote: > The Net-SNMP and SNMP Research teams have been testing the > interoperability of our implementations of RFC 5953. Out > interoperability report is attached. Robert (and Alan), thank you very much for the report. I assume the implementation use RFC 5591 (which relies on RFC 5590) and likely they also use RFC 5343. Will there be separate interoperability reports for these specifications as well or is the plan to expand the scope of the report to cover these RFCs as well? Concerning the security level mapping, it seems that this was not implemented and left to be added if there is demand for supporting weak cryptography in TLS. So is this a feature that perhaps is not needed? Another question: Are you aware of any real-world deployments of SNMP over TLS? RFC 2026 also calls for "sufficient successful operational experience" to advance to Draft Standard level. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From Robert.Story@cobham.com Wed Dec 15 08:50:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C1C28C10F for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:50:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.193 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.193 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.406, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QaSbWIX3aiGf for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:50:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16423A6FA8 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id oBFGq4WF030457; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:52:04 -0600 Received: from mailbin2.ads.sparta.com (mailbin.sparta.com [157.185.85.6]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oBFGq3VF027120; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:52:03 -0600 Received: from sparta.com ([76.122.68.129]) by mailbin2.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:52:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:51:57 -0500 From: Robert Story To: RFC Errata System Message-ID: <20101215115157.6b89b2aa@sparta.com> In-Reply-To: <20101215073633.93393E070C@rfc-editor.org> References: <20101215073633.93393E070C@rfc-editor.org> Organization: SPARTA X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/WE2eF4Yt+/yPU1mgyA40WJY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2010 16:52:03.0000 (UTC) FILETIME=[65E97B80:01CB9C78] Cc: isms@ietf.org, tim.polk@nist.gov, Russ.Mundy@sparta.com, ietf@hardakers.net Subject: Re: [Isms] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5953 (2670) X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:50:25 -0000 --Sig_/WE2eF4Yt+/yPU1mgyA40WJY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:36:33 -0800 RFC wrote: RES> Original Text RES> ------------- RES> snmpTargetParamsRowStatus =3D 4 (createAndGo0 RES>=20 RES> Corrected Text RES> -------------- RES> snmpTargetParamsRowStatus =3D 4 (createAndGo) I noticed this too.. I read up on submitting errata and it seems like it said that only errors that caused an issue with the specification were considered. But if we're making corrections, then a more serious typo is that snmpTargetAddrColumnStatus (also in the appendix), should be snmpTargetAddrRowStatus. --=20 Robert Story Senior Software Engineer SPARTA (dba Cobham Analytic Soloutions) --Sig_/WE2eF4Yt+/yPU1mgyA40WJY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0I8jEACgkQ7/fVLLY1mnjUiQCgjODeRXH1D527O0hXvP8q3wH5 IFwAnR95eABr5viObt2W/hPcrKk//0Me =0LIR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/WE2eF4Yt+/yPU1mgyA40WJY-- From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Wed Dec 15 09:00:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C6C3A6FA8 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:00:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v---oG4s2fRq for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A99D3A6EB6 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.48]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DB2C0017; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:02:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AXVV7kZpN+Xu; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:02:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CDAC000B; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:01:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id B885215F9D4C; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:01:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:01:50 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: Robert Story Message-ID: <20101215170150.GA16852@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Story , RFC Errata System , ietf@hardakers.net, turners@ieca.com, tim.polk@nist.gov, Russ.Mundy@sparta.com, isms@ietf.org References: <20101215073633.93393E070C@rfc-editor.org> <20101215115157.6b89b2aa@sparta.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101215115157.6b89b2aa@sparta.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: isms@ietf.org, tim.polk@nist.gov, Russ.Mundy@sparta.com, ietf@hardakers.net, RFC Errata System Subject: Re: [Isms] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5953 (2670) X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:00:31 -0000 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:51:57AM -0500, Robert Story wrote: > On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:36:33 -0800 RFC wrote: > RES> Original Text > RES> ------------- > RES> snmpTargetParamsRowStatus = 4 (createAndGo0 > RES> > RES> Corrected Text > RES> -------------- > RES> snmpTargetParamsRowStatus = 4 (createAndGo) > > I noticed this too.. I read up on submitting errata and it seems like it > said that only errors that caused an issue with the specification were > considered. But if we're making corrections, then a more serious typo > is that snmpTargetAddrColumnStatus (also in the appendix), should be > snmpTargetAddrRowStatus. So please consider filing an errata. I think it is helpful to have issues recorded somewhere where they are found when a document is revised. Digging through mailing list archives is time consuming and error prone, especially if that happens years after the issue has been discovered. Probably the approval process for editorial issues should be simpler - but that is a different issue I think. I might also be completely wrong. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From Robert.Story@cobham.com Wed Dec 15 09:06:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4877528C1D1 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:06:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.238 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.238 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.361, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S+lCiaq-g2mK for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B36828C0F1 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id oBFH8OZu030770; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:08:24 -0600 Received: from mailbin2.ads.sparta.com (mailbin.sparta.com [157.185.85.6]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oBFH8OYu027964; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:08:24 -0600 Received: from sparta.com ([76.122.68.129]) by mailbin2.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:08:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:08:19 -0500 From: Robert Story To: Juergen Schoenwaelder Message-ID: <20101215120819.127dcdab@sparta.com> In-Reply-To: <20101215073635.GE12099@elstar.local> References: <20101213115544.32cdf17f@sparta.com> <20101215073635.GE12099@elstar.local> Organization: SPARTA X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/QWLlXoTNpd6CQINBvdyrnHZ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2010 17:08:24.0572 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEF97BC0:01CB9C7A] Cc: isms@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isms] RFC 5953 interoperability report X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:06:43 -0000 --Sig_/QWLlXoTNpd6CQINBvdyrnHZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:36:35 +0100 Juergen wrote: JS> thank you very much for the report. I assume the implementation use JS> RFC 5591 (which relies on RFC 5590) and likely they also use RFC JS> 5343. Will there be separate interoperability reports for these JS> specifications as well or is the plan to expand the scope of the JS> report to cover these RFCs as well? Separate reports are in the works.. JS> Concerning the security level mapping, it seems that this was not JS> implemented and left to be added if there is demand for supporting JS> weak cryptography in TLS. So is this a feature that perhaps is not JS> needed? Net-SNMP does plan on implementing it. The problem with removing it is that 'weak cryptography' is a moving target. We want to have the ability to do the mapping in place before it's needed. JS> Another question: Are you aware of any real-world deployments of SNMP JS> over TLS? RFC 2026 also calls for "sufficient successful operational JS> experience" to advance to Draft Standard level. I'm going to let Wes field this one. --=20 Robert Story Senior Software Engineer SPARTA (dba Cobham Analytic Soloutions) --Sig_/QWLlXoTNpd6CQINBvdyrnHZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0I9gYACgkQ7/fVLLY1mniJUACaA7xr/NfdCwM8jDPttzzeJqU8 cmYAn29ItPUq0rS9CpQeW6pI8WciSBxS =WUE+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/QWLlXoTNpd6CQINBvdyrnHZ-- From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Wed Dec 15 09:15:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EBA28B56A for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:15:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.348 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.348 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.252, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2r0ihQc0xLLX for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::2f]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920293A6EB6 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id AE46CE06EB; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:17:31 -0800 (PST) To: ietf@hardakers.net, turners@ieca.com, tim.polk@nist.gov, Russ.Mundy@sparta.com, j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20101215171731.AE46CE06EB@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:17:31 -0800 (PST) Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, isms@ietf.org, Robert.Story@cobham.com Subject: [Isms] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5953 (2671) X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:15:49 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5953, "Transport Layer Security (TLS) Transport Model for the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5953&eid=2671 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Robert Story Section: A.1 Original Text ------------- snmpTargetAddrColumnStatus = 4 (createAndGo) Corrected Text -------------- snmpTargetAddrRowStatus = 4 (createAndGo) Notes ----- There is not such object as snmpTargetAddrColumnStatus. The correct object for row creation is snmpTargetAddrRowStatus. Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC5953 (draft-ietf-isms-dtls-tm-14) -------------------------------------- Title : Transport Layer Security (TLS) Transport Model for the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) Publication Date : August 2010 Author(s) : W. Hardaker Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Integrated Security Model for SNMP Area : Security Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From Robert.Story@cobham.com Wed Dec 15 09:16:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E556E28C1DA for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:16:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.274 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.274 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.325, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HYvCGdiR4ktX for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:16:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1809528C1D9 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:16:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id oBFHIDLF030959; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:18:13 -0600 Received: from mailbin2.ads.sparta.com (mailbin.sparta.com [157.185.85.6]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oBFHIDwp028439; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:18:13 -0600 Received: from sparta.com ([76.122.68.129]) by mailbin2.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:18:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:18:06 -0500 From: Robert Story To: Juergen Schoenwaelder Message-ID: <20101215121806.2bfa9976@sparta.com> In-Reply-To: <20101215170150.GA16852@elstar.local> References: <20101215073633.93393E070C@rfc-editor.org> <20101215115157.6b89b2aa@sparta.com> <20101215170150.GA16852@elstar.local> Organization: SPARTA X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/=e2Ya0=_3hQsL3r8=fyOcYx"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2010 17:18:13.0178 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DCFA1A0:01CB9C7C] Cc: isms@ietf.org, tim.polk@nist.gov, Russ.Mundy@sparta.com, ietf@hardakers.net, RFC Errata System Subject: Re: [Isms] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5953 (2670) X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:16:34 -0000 --Sig_/=e2Ya0=_3hQsL3r8=fyOcYx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:01:50 +0100 Juergen wrote: JS> > I noticed this too.. I read up on submitting errata and it seems like= it JS> > said that only errors that caused an issue with the specification were JS> > considered. But if we're making corrections, then a more serious typo JS> > is that snmpTargetAddrColumnStatus (also in the appendix), should be JS> > snmpTargetAddrRowStatus. JS>=20 JS> So please consider filing an errata. I think it is helpful to have JS> issues recorded somewhere where they are found when a document is JS> revised. Ok, done. --=20 Robert Story Senior Software Engineer SPARTA (dba Cobham Analytic Soloutions) --Sig_/=e2Ya0=_3hQsL3r8=fyOcYx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0I+FIACgkQ7/fVLLY1mnjLTwCggzEW+57poE5Rzo62/+arKp0u boEAn29/TJT3XPsK9Yv5WYvFq+DiXlvw =Nf01 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/=e2Ya0=_3hQsL3r8=fyOcYx-- From Robert.Story@cobham.com Wed Dec 15 09:42:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57DD28C107 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:42:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.304 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.304 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.295, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gzITs8bPR0wf for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B637E28C0F2 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id oBFHidYj031490; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:44:39 -0600 Received: from mailbin2.ads.sparta.com (mailbin.sparta.com [157.185.85.6]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oBFHicdg029786; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:44:38 -0600 Received: from sparta.com ([76.122.68.129]) by mailbin2.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:44:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:44:30 -0500 From: Robert Story To: Juergen Schoenwaelder Message-ID: <20101215124430.61809111@sparta.com> In-Reply-To: <20101215170150.GA16852@elstar.local> References: <20101215073633.93393E070C@rfc-editor.org> <20101215115157.6b89b2aa@sparta.com> <20101215170150.GA16852@elstar.local> Organization: SPARTA X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/S4ml=EbyvzEllFN89CAfK1n"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2010 17:44:37.0949 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE687ED0:01CB9C7F] Cc: isms@ietf.org Subject: [Isms] More Errata for RFC5953? X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:42:57 -0000 --Sig_/S4ml=EbyvzEllFN89CAfK1n Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is one more issue with the example in A.1. It does not show the setup for the snmpNotifyTable to tie together the other rows. To be complete, I'd expect something like: The following row adds the "toNRTag" tag to the snmpNotifyTable: snmpNotifyName =3D "toNRName" snmpNotifyTag =3D "toNRTag" snmpNotifyType =3D 1 (trap) snmpNotifyStorageType =3D 3 (nonVolatile) snmpNotifyRowStatus =3D 4 (createAndGo) Or are we assuming the reader knows what is needed to make the example work? --=20 Robert Story Senior Software Engineer SPARTA (dba Cobham Analytic Soloutions) --Sig_/S4ml=EbyvzEllFN89CAfK1n Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0I/oIACgkQ7/fVLLY1mnj4zACfSbhQ57wrTX9kH0qQH0Prn7qr d2sAoI1hMkp/20DnvhiPxNZHIecHYIn8 =NjzQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/S4ml=EbyvzEllFN89CAfK1n-- From wjhns1@hardakers.net Wed Dec 15 13:37:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B09828C123 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:37:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dSVIqZUkS5jJ for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hardakers.net (mail.hardakers.net [168.150.236.43]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B856028C0E1 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.50.5.172] (unknown [187.153.73.211]) by mail.hardakers.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 96874241B7; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:38:48 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Hardaker To: Robert Story , Juergen Schoenwaelder X-Mailer: Modest 3.2 References: <20101215073633.93393E070C@rfc-editor.org> <20101215115157.6b89b2aa@sparta.com> <20101215170150.GA16852@elstar.local> <20101215124430.61809111@sparta.com> In-Reply-To: <20101215124430.61809111@sparta.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-ID: <1292449124.9958.9.camel@Nokia-N900> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 15:38:44 -0600 Message-Id: <1292449124.9958.10.camel@Nokia-N900> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: isms@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isms] More Errata for RFC5953? X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Wes Hardaker List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:37:32 -0000 It was decided previously that the example wouldn't include settings for the previous example tables. The example section actually had longer examples in it but an IESG member wanted them removed. So no, the text is published according to expectations. ----- Original message ----- > There is one more issue with the example in A.1. It does not show the > setup for the snmpNotifyTable to tie together the other rows. To be > complete, I'd expect something like: > >       The following row adds the "toNRTag" tag to the snmpNotifyTable: > >               snmpNotifyName                                 =   "toNRName" >               snmpNotifyTag                                   =   "toNRTag" >               snmpNotifyType                                 =   1                 (trap) >               snmpNotifyStorageType                   =   3                 (nonVolatile) >               snmpNotifyRowStatus                       =   4                 (createAndGo) > > Or are we assuming the reader knows what is needed to make the example > work? > > -- > Robert Story > Senior Software Engineer > SPARTA (dba Cobham Analytic Soloutions) From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Thu Dec 16 00:57:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8DA3A7098 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:57:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.148, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Oz+2b5rfhrnf for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882423A7091 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.46]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B399DC0002; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:59:33 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1uJrDMpbRBqQ; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:59:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A6DC0076; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:59:27 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id DB89A15FAA02; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:59:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:59:20 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: RFC Errata System Message-ID: <20101216085920.GC18641@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: RFC Errata System , ietf@hardakers.net, turners@ieca.com, tim.polk@nist.gov, Russ.Mundy@sparta.com, Robert.Story@cobham.com, isms@ietf.org References: <20101215171731.AE46CE06EB@rfc-editor.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101215171731.AE46CE06EB@rfc-editor.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: isms@ietf.org, tim.polk@nist.gov, Russ.Mundy@sparta.com, ietf@hardakers.net, Robert.Story@cobham.com Subject: Re: [Isms] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5953 (2671) X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 08:57:51 -0000 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 09:17:31AM -0800, RFC Errata System wrote: > > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5953, > "Transport Layer Security (TLS) Transport Model for the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP)". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5953&eid=2671 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Editorial > Reported by: Robert Story > > Section: A.1 > > Original Text > ------------- > snmpTargetAddrColumnStatus = 4 (createAndGo) > > > Corrected Text > -------------- > snmpTargetAddrRowStatus = 4 (createAndGo) > > > Notes > ----- > There is not such object as snmpTargetAddrColumnStatus. The correct object for row creation is snmpTargetAddrRowStatus. > > Instructions: > ------------- > This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC5953 (draft-ietf-isms-dtls-tm-14) > -------------------------------------- > Title : Transport Layer Security (TLS) Transport Model for the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) > Publication Date : August 2010 > Author(s) : W. Hardaker > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Integrated Security Model for SNMP > Area : Security > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG I checked once more RFC 3413 and I concluded that this errata should be approved. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From wjhns1@hardakers.net Fri Dec 17 06:22:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621FE3A6B55 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:22:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ofdUVSaKd2iI for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hardakers.net (mail.hardakers.net [168.150.236.43]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21ACA3A6B3D for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.50.5.172] (unknown [187.153.73.211]) by mail.hardakers.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3390723F94; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:24:03 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Hardaker To: Robert Story , Juergen Schoenwaelder X-Mailer: Modest 3.2 References: <20101213115544.32cdf17f@sparta.com> <20101215073635.GE12099@elstar.local> <20101215120819.127dcdab@sparta.com> In-Reply-To: <20101215120819.127dcdab@sparta.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-ID: <1292595840.13061.7.camel@Nokia-N900> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:24:01 -0600 Message-Id: <1292595841.13061.8.camel@Nokia-N900> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: isms@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isms] RFC 5953 interoperability report X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Wes Hardaker List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 14:22:47 -0000 Unfortunately there is somewhat of a chicken and egg problem here, along with the standard reporting mechanism to the IETF of "there isn't one". I know of people that want to see it at Draft before they really kick in to using it. Hence the chicken and egg problem. I know weMve gotten some people playing with our test server. I know we've gotten some people that have asked questions about it. So given all that, yes I think there is definitely deployment happening. I know as implementers we've learned a lot from interacting with people asking questions about setting it up and using it. We've changed code based on comments and questions. So, IMHO, we've received enough feedback to meet that requirement. ----- Original message ----- > On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:36:35 +0100 Juergen wrote: > JS> thank you very much for the report. I assume the implementation use > JS> RFC 5591 (which relies on RFC 5590) and likely they also use RFC > JS> 5343. Will there be separate interoperability reports for these > JS> specifications as well or is the plan to expand the scope of the > JS> report to cover these RFCs as well? > > Separate reports are in the works.. > > JS> Concerning the security level mapping, it seems that this was not > JS> implemented and left to be added if there is demand for supporting > JS> weak cryptography in TLS. So is this a feature that perhaps is not > JS> needed? > > Net-SNMP does plan on implementing it. The problem with removing it is > that 'weak cryptography' is a moving target. We want to have the > ability to do the mapping in place before it's needed. > > JS> Another question: Are you aware of any real-world deployments of SNMP > JS> over TLS?  RFC 2026 also calls for "sufficient successful operational > JS> experience" to advance to Draft Standard level. > > I'm going to let Wes field this one. > > -- > Robert Story > Senior Software Engineer > SPARTA (dba Cobham Analytic Soloutions) From Robert.Story@cobham.com Fri Dec 17 09:29:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610943A6B85 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 09:29:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with 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micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/sfN=7S2f6H3qj_mt6Q/KemS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2010 17:31:21.0739 (UTC) FILETIME=[38A7FDB0:01CB9E10] Subject: [Isms] Interoperability reports: 5590/5591 X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:29:40 -0000 --Sig_/sfN=7S2f6H3qj_mt6Q/KemS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MP_/G_S.aalEGV2smmfRIhyiuwB" --MP_/G_S.aalEGV2smmfRIhyiuwB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Here are the promised interoperability reports for rfcs 5590/5591... 5343 coming soon... --=20 Robert Story Senior Software Engineer SPARTA (dba Cobham Analytic Soloutions) --MP_/G_S.aalEGV2smmfRIhyiuwB Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=5590-interoperability-report 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protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2010 14:27:39.0791 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E4D71F0:01CBA052] Subject: [Isms] Interoperability report: 5343 X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 14:25:48 -0000 --Sig_/1VCcN/.ImJE2Cg+9LL4=4H2 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MP_/pl_LGCbWV6ouyLs5a8P6vKo" --MP_/pl_LGCbWV6ouyLs5a8P6vKo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline And last but not least, the 5343 interoperability report. --=20 Robert Story Senior Software Engineer SPARTA (dba Cobham Analytic Soloutions) --MP_/pl_LGCbWV6ouyLs5a8P6vKo Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=5343-interoperability-report Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CTaDfw2U92OG; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:54:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B844C002E; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:54:54 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 5059D160558C; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:54:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:54:50 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: Robert Story Message-ID: <20101223085450.GA37184@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Story , isms@ietf.org References: <20101220092735.5faa804d@sparta.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101220092735.5faa804d@sparta.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: isms@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isms] Interoperability report: 5343 X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:52:58 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 09:27:35AM -0500, Robert Story wrote: > And last but not least, the 5343 interoperability report. Robert, thanks for the report. My understanding is that the following paragraph is documenting an observation made during implementation: Note that the localEngineID value is intended to be used as a special value for the contextEngineID field in the ScopedPDU. It MUST NOT be used as a value to identify an SNMP engine; that is, this value MUST NOT be used in the snmpEngineID.0 scalar [RFC3418] or in the msgAuthoritativeEngineID field in the securityParameters of the User-based Security Model (USM) [RFC3414]. Due to the MUST language, the text reads like a quote from RFC 5343, but it seems this is a suggestion for a clarification to be added to RFC 5343. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Thu Dec 23 01:05:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C526C3A6BE5 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 01:05:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.113 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.113 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.136, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gGyp59U+pMkw for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 01:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE66B3A6B01 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 01:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.46]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7805DC0013; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:07:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tAGmnE+Gb2Bi; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:07:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FEBC000A; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:07:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id AFD031605687; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:07:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:07:50 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: Robert Story Message-ID: <20101223090750.GA37334@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Story , isms@ietf.org References: <20101217123116.7cdb80a5@sparta.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101217123116.7cdb80a5@sparta.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: isms@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isms] Interoperability reports: 5590/5591 X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:05:58 -0000 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:31:16PM -0500, Robert Story wrote: > Here are the promised interoperability reports for rfcs 5590/5591... > 5343 coming soon... Thanks again Robert. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Thu Dec 23 01:20:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE2E3A6AF7 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 01:20:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.114 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.114 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.135, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Co+h+5L+Auep for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 01:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3213A6AED for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 01:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.48]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDE9C0013 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:22:22 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dhgDpQKyIRRH; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:22:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00200C000A; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:22:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4EF1B16056F3; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:22:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:22:17 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: isms@ietf.org Message-ID: <20101223092217.GB37334@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: isms@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: [Isms] advancement of RFCs 5343, 5590, 5591, 5953 to Draft Standard X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:20:25 -0000 Hi, Robert has posted interoperability reports for the RFCs 5343, 5590, 5591, 5953. I like to ask the WG to review the reports and provide feedback. My understanding so far is that the implementors did not uncover any major problems in the RFCs and that a status change from Proposed to Draft seems feasible without a re-publication of the documents. Please comment if you believe my reading is incorrect and you think a re-publication is necessary. According to Section 6.2 of RFC 2026, we can't advance RFC 5953 before February (RFC 5953 was published in August and a specification shall remain at the Proposed Standard level for at least six (6) months) and as such there is about a months left for additional input. If others are working on implementations of one or more of these RFCs, please consider getting in contact with Robert or the working group or the chairs so that we can make the case for moving to Draft status even stronger. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From Robert.Story@cobham.com Thu Dec 23 06:50:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CDC3A67DA for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 06:50:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.297 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.297 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.302, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7csuAuCkqahW for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 06:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5411C3A67D7 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 06:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id oBNEqROX028184; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:52:27 -0600 Received: from mailbin2.ads.sparta.com (mailbin.sparta.com [157.185.85.6]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oBNEqRk6013155; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:52:27 -0600 Received: from sparta.com ([216.27.162.138]) by mailbin2.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:52:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:52:22 -0500 From: Robert Story To: Juergen Schoenwaelder Message-ID: <20101223095222.46c1bb65@sparta.com> In-Reply-To: <20101223085450.GA37184@elstar.local> References: <20101220092735.5faa804d@sparta.com> <20101223085450.GA37184@elstar.local> Organization: SPARTA X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/JlsVHlbCxrI9=EFcIO=_Plk"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2010 14:52:26.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[03DDF4E0:01CBA2B1] Cc: isms@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isms] Interoperability report: 5343 X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:50:28 -0000 --Sig_/JlsVHlbCxrI9=EFcIO=_Plk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:54:50 +0100 Juergen wrote: JS> Due to the MUST language, the text reads like a quote from RFC 5343, JS> but it seems this is a suggestion for a clarification to be added to JS> RFC 5343. Juergen, No, it's a quote from 3.1. Appendix A lists the requirements (using RFC 2119 keywords) that were not directly testable. --=20 Robert Story Senior Software Engineer SPARTA (dba Cobham Analytic Soloutions) --Sig_/JlsVHlbCxrI9=EFcIO=_Plk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0TYikACgkQ7/fVLLY1mngIVwCeIRv2uQ4xLhkHRkWd8mGoh3HA wPEAnRam682DWPlz0ltRHkldSkOsDzq0 =wIqZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/JlsVHlbCxrI9=EFcIO=_Plk-- From wjhns1@hardakers.net Thu Dec 23 08:13:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174963A680F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:13:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kvD9pUydgoyh for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hardakers.net (mail.hardakers.net [168.150.236.43]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA583A680C for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (75-101-64-22.dsl.dynamic.omsoft.com [75.101.64.22]) by mail.hardakers.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4475E22477; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:15:20 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Hardaker To: Robert Story Organization: Sparta References: <20101220092735.5faa804d@sparta.com> <20101223085450.GA37184@elstar.local> <20101223095222.46c1bb65@sparta.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:15:19 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20101223095222.46c1bb65@sparta.com> (Robert Story's message of "Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:52:22 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: isms@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isms] Interoperability report: 5343 X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:13:44 -0000 >>>>> On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:52:22 -0500, Robert Story said: RS> No, it's a quote from 3.1. Appendix A lists the requirements (using RFC RS> 2119 keywords) that were not directly testable. IE, testing negatives is difficult. You can't test that no where in someone else's code do they incorrectly use the local engineID. The best you can do is complain if you ever see one and hope you never see another. -- Wes Hardaker Cobham Analytic Solutions From wjhns1@hardakers.net Thu Dec 23 08:16:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395173A6811 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:16:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IDTBFd37hz1x for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:16:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hardakers.net (mail.hardakers.net [168.150.236.43]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA2B3A6802 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:16:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (75-101-64-22.dsl.dynamic.omsoft.com [75.101.64.22]) by mail.hardakers.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02006226AA for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:18:18 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Hardaker To: isms@ietf.org Organization: Sparta References: <20101223092217.GB37334@elstar.local> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:18:18 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20101223092217.GB37334@elstar.local> (Juergen Schoenwaelder's message of "Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:22:17 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Isms] Ismsadvancement of RFCs 5343, 5590, 5591, 5953 to Draft Standard X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:16:40 -0000 >>>>> On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:22:17 +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder said: JS> According to Section 6.2 of RFC 2026, we can't advance RFC 5953 before JS> February (RFC 5953 was published in August and a specification shall JS> remain at the Proposed Standard level for at least six (6) months) and JS> as such there is about a months left for additional input. If others JS> are working on implementations of one or more of these RFCs, please JS> consider getting in contact with Robert or the working group or the JS> chairs so that we can make the case for moving to Draft status even JS> stronger. You actually can submit them to the IESG before February. They can't be published before February. So if there is no outstanding items to do, I'd encourage us to submit the proposal to the IESG and the RFC Editor simply won't publish it till the due date. Note that the SNMPv3 specs were actually done this way. I talked with Sean about this too, and he was fine (when I talked with him) with submitting them in advance of the 6 month time-frame (but he's welcome to chime in saying he still agrees or no longer does with this opinion). Personally, I'd like to see them submitted simply to help wrap up the todo item as there doesn't seem to be reasons to drag it out if the work is already done. -- Wes Hardaker Cobham Analytic Solutions From turners@ieca.com Thu Dec 23 08:19:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isms@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AB53A6819 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:19:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.535 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.535 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1OZOiK+oNunO for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:19:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.74]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EDE153A6802 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:19:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [98.139.91.61] by nm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2010 16:21:43 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.20] by tm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2010 16:21:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2010 16:21:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 332856.53071.bm@omp1020.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 5221 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2010 16:21:43 -0000 Received: from thunderfish.local (turners@96.241.0.183 with plain) by smtp111.biz.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2010 08:21:42 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: ZrP3VLSswBDL75pF8ymZHDSu9B.vcMfDPgLJ X-YMail-OSG: QWtY7ikVM1kGr0OKm.5rYppqzKStQCwwzswO.._6N9MWCJp Kvchs8P8B8L58wJI9DrWM5KI93i6Fp.35RefixY94QRCbe8v3NHtQFKqZ8GG kHVgsF.wwHzHv9pJzEe50yhrp4IUP4F_LVoIzWWEArFSMSLqvocjiOedfJFk 0vkJ7qvEWyujehDLNtQA8wTknuKrk4E.RFEnLsuMDR.aE0ZPKqXHZ8ZXhzVF Bgm2w8mcnZBAdq3zyaJXu.itQ6iHSUcR6a.yXSVOz0i_6k_g7mebKgzzwehB Y1iTOdEEBJu976WI3ShlORO5TyNQAOnn845WXlPFqXjJdwTByQQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4D137715.2010903@ieca.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:21:41 -0500 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Hardaker References: <20101223092217.GB37334@elstar.local> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: isms@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isms] Ismsadvancement of RFCs 5343, 5590, 5591, 5953 to Draft Standard X-BeenThere: isms@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for the ISMS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:19:45 -0000 On 12/23/10 11:18 AM, Wes Hardaker wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:22:17 +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder said: > > JS> According to Section 6.2 of RFC 2026, we can't advance RFC 5953 before > JS> February (RFC 5953 was published in August and a specification shall > JS> remain at the Proposed Standard level for at least six (6) months) and > JS> as such there is about a months left for additional input. If others > JS> are working on implementations of one or more of these RFCs, please > JS> consider getting in contact with Robert or the working group or the > JS> chairs so that we can make the case for moving to Draft status even > JS> stronger. > > You actually can submit them to the IESG before February. They can't be > published before February. So if there is no outstanding items to do, > I'd encourage us to submit the proposal to the IESG and the RFC Editor > simply won't publish it till the due date. Note that the SNMPv3 specs > were actually done this way. I talked with Sean about this too, and he > was fine (when I talked with him) with submitting them in advance of the > 6 month time-frame (but he's welcome to chime in saying he still agrees > or no longer does with this opinion). It's going to take 3 months (at least) for these to get published. It's usually 2 week IETF LC, 2 weeks to get on an IESG telechat, two months for RFC-editor to get to it. Starting now is fine by me. spt > Personally, I'd like to see them submitted simply to help wrap up the > todo item as there doesn't seem to be reasons to drag it out if the work > is already done.