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This is an important input. Please consider participating in the survey. Thanks, Carlos ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: IETF Executive Director Date: Mon, May 4, 2020 at 9:04 AM Subject: Reminder: Survey on planning for possible online IETF meetings To: IETF Announcement List This is a reminder that we need the IETF community to help us plan for the possibility that one or more upcoming IETF meetings in 2020 and possibly 2021 may not be able to go ahead in person. You can help us with this by filling out the following survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5328FFJ So far we have 114 responses and we would ideally like 500 or more. The survey contains the following pages and will take 15-20 minutes to complete: 1. Welcome 2. Online IETF 107 and the subsequent virtual interims 3. Replacing a cancelled in-person meeting 4. Online meeting format and timezone 5. Replicating humming 6. Replicating the hallway environment 7. Fees 8. Thanks and anything else We run the survey in anonymous mode which means that we only see data that you explicitly provide. Thank you in advance for your help. -- Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair Jay Daley, IETF Executive Director Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce --000000000000c9fd4805a4e6294c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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This is a reminder that we need the IETF community to he= lp us plan for the possibility that one or more upcoming IETF meetings in 2= 020 and possibly 2021 may not be able to go ahead in person.=C2=A0 You can = help us with this by filling out the following survey:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/532= 8FFJ

So far we have 114 responses and we would ideally like 500 or more.

The survey contains the following pages and will take 15-20 minutes to comp= lete:

1. Welcome
2. Online IETF 107 and the subsequent virtual interims
3. Replacing a cancelled in-person meeting
4. Online meeting format and timezone
5. Replicating humming
6. Replicating the hallway environment
7. Fees
8. Thanks and anything else

We run the survey in anonymous mode which means that we only see data that = you explicitly provide.

Thank you in advance for your help.

--
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Jay Daley, IETF Executive Director
Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair

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I need more time and I will be able to finish early next week. I am sorry for the delay. Best Regards, Paul On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:02 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Russ, Carlos and IPWAVE WG, > I need more time to address the reviewers' comments. > I will be able to post the revised draft early next week. > > Thanks for your support and patience. > > Best Regards, > Paul > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:19 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < > jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Russ and Carlos, >> As you see, the following five people reviewed the IPWAVE PS draft >> according to the advice of our AD, Suresh: >> >> Zeungil (Ben) Kim (Hyundai Motors) >> Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC) >> Yong-Joon Joe (LSware) >> Jung-Soo Park (ETRI) >> Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University) >> >> I will revise our IPWAVE PS draft with their comments by the end of this >> April. >> With the revised draft, I believe you can do WGLC for it. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Best Regards, >> Paul >> >> >> 2020=EB=85=84 3=EC=9B=94 10=EC=9D=BC (=ED=99=94) =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 4:46= , Russ Housley =EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: >> >>> Paul believes that he has addressed all comments in revision: >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14 >>> >>> I think we need to let at least five reviewers. Could you do a review >>> of this revision? Please respond to the WG mail list. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Russ >>> >>> >>> On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:17 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>> >>> >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>> directories. >>> This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular >>> Environments WG of the IETF. >>> >>> Title : IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments >>> (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases >>> Author : Jaehoon Paul Jeong (editor) >>> Filename : draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14.txt >>> Pages : 32 >>> Date : 2020-03-09 >>> >>> Abstract: >>> This document discusses the problem statement and use cases of >>> IPv6-based vehicular networking for Intelligent Transportation >>> Systems (ITS). The main scenarios of vehicular communications are >>> vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and >>> vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications. First, this document >>> explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking. Next, it >>> makes a problem statement about key aspects in IPv6-based vehicular >>> networking, such as IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, Mobility Management, and >>> Security & Privacy. For each key aspect, this document specifies >>> requirements for IPv6-based vehicular networking. >>> >>> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking= / >>> >>> There are also htmlized versions available at: >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14 >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-netwo= rking-14 >>> >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> >>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-network= ing-14 >>> >>> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>> submission >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>> >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> its mailing list >>> its@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> its mailing list >>> its@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>> >> > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Department of Software > Sungkyunkwan University > Office: +82-31-299-4957 > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu > Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --0000000000002382ca05a5067039 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi IPWAVE WG,
I am working for the revision with the r= eviewers.
I need more time and I will be able to finish early nex= t week.
I am sorry for the delay.

Best R= egards,
Paul=C2=A0

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:02 AM Mr. Jaehoo= n Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gma= il.com> wrote:
Hi Russ, Carlos and IPWAVE WG,
I need more time = to address the reviewers' comments.
I will be able to post th= e revised draft early next week.

Thanks for your s= upport and patience.

Best Regards,
Paul<= /div>

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:19 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
Hi Russ and Carlos,
A= s you see, the following five people reviewed the IPWAVE PS draft according= to the advice of our AD, Suresh:

Zeungil (Ben) Kim (Hyundai Motors)
Zhiwei = Yan (CNNIC)
Yong-Joon Joe (LSware)
Jung-Soo Park (ETRI)
Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil U= niversity)

I will revise= our IPWAVE PS draft with their comments by the end of this April.
With the revised draft, I believe you can do WGLC for it.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul<= /div>


2020=EB=85=84 3=EC=9B=94 10=EC=9D=BC (=ED= =99=94) =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 4:46, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>=EB=8B=98=EC= =9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:
Paul believes that he has addressed all comments in re= vision:

I think we need to let at least five reviewers.=C2=A0 Coul= d you do a review of this revision?=C2=A0 Please respond to the WG mail lis= t.

Thanks,
=C2=A0 Russ


On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:17 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:


A New Internet= -Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This d= raft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG = of the IETF.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Title =C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: IPv6 Wireless Acces= s in Vehicular Environments (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases
= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Author =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: Jaehoon Paul Jeong (editor)
Filename =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14.txt
Pages =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: 32
Date =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0: 2020-03-09

Abstract:
=C2=A0=C2=A0This document discusses th= e problem statement and use cases of
=C2=A0=C2=A0IPv6-based vehicular n= etworking for Intelligent Transportation
=C2=A0=C2=A0Systems (ITS).=C2= =A0 The main scenarios of vehicular communications are
=C2=A0=C2=A0vehi= cle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and
=C2=A0=C2=A0= vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications.=C2=A0 First, this document
= =C2=A0=C2=A0explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking.=C2=A0 Ne= xt, it
=C2=A0=C2=A0makes a problem statement about key aspects in IPv6-= based vehicular
=C2=A0=C2=A0networking, such as IPv6 Neighbor Discovery= , Mobility Management, and
=C2=A0=C2=A0Security & Privacy.=C2=A0 Fo= r each key aspect, this document specifies
=C2=A0=C2=A0requirements for= IPv6-based vehicular networking.


The IETF datatracker status pa= ge for this draft is:
htt= ps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/
There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehi= cular-networking-14
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-net= working-14

A diff from the previous version is available at:
= https://www.ietf.org/rf= cdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14


Pleas= e note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
= until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp:/= /ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/


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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Associate ProfessorDepartment of Software
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: +82-31-299-4= 957
Email: j= aehoon.paul@gmail.com,=C2=A0pauljeong@skku.edu
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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.= D.
Associate Professor
Department of Software
Sungkyunkwan Univers= ity
Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com,=C2=A0pauljeon= g@skku.edu
Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaeho= on-jeong.php
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This was just an attempt at minor = housekeeping on my part, since this particular milestone was in fact comple= ted.

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Since there are many challenging questions and comments along with my university work, I need more time and I will be able to finish the revision by the end of this May. Thanks for your patience and support. Best Regards, Paul 2020=EB=85=84 5=EC=9B=94 7=EC=9D=BC (=EB=AA=A9) =EC=98=A4=ED=9B=84 12:25, M= r. Jaehoon Paul Jeong =EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: > Hi IPWAVE WG, > I am working for the revision with the reviewers. > I need more time and I will be able to finish early next week. > I am sorry for the delay. > > Best Regards, > Paul > > On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:02 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < > jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Russ, Carlos and IPWAVE WG, >> I need more time to address the reviewers' comments. >> I will be able to post the revised draft early next week. >> >> Thanks for your support and patience. >> >> Best Regards, >> Paul >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:19 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < >> jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Russ and Carlos, >>> As you see, the following five people reviewed the IPWAVE PS draft >>> according to the advice of our AD, Suresh: >>> >>> Zeungil (Ben) Kim (Hyundai Motors) >>> Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC) >>> Yong-Joon Joe (LSware) >>> Jung-Soo Park (ETRI) >>> Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University) >>> >>> I will revise our IPWAVE PS draft with their comments by the end of thi= s >>> April. >>> With the revised draft, I believe you can do WGLC for it. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> 2020=EB=85=84 3=EC=9B=94 10=EC=9D=BC (=ED=99=94) =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 4:4= 6, Russ Housley =EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1= : >>> >>>> Paul believes that he has addressed all comments in revision: >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14 >>>> >>>> I think we need to let at least five reviewers. Could you do a review >>>> of this revision? Please respond to the WG mail list. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Russ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:17 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>>> directories. >>>> This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular >>>> Environments WG of the IETF. >>>> >>>> Title : IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular Environment= s >>>> (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases >>>> Author : Jaehoon Paul Jeong (editor) >>>> Filename : draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14.txt >>>> Pages : 32 >>>> Date : 2020-03-09 >>>> >>>> Abstract: >>>> This document discusses the problem statement and use cases of >>>> IPv6-based vehicular networking for Intelligent Transportation >>>> Systems (ITS). The main scenarios of vehicular communications are >>>> vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and >>>> vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications. First, this document >>>> explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking. Next, it >>>> makes a problem statement about key aspects in IPv6-based vehicular >>>> networking, such as IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, Mobility Management, an= d >>>> Security & Privacy. For each key aspect, this document specifies >>>> requirements for IPv6-based vehicular networking. >>>> >>>> >>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networkin= g/ >>>> >>>> There are also htmlized versions available at: >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14 >>>> >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-netw= orking-14 >>>> >>>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>>> >>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networ= king-14 >>>> >>>> >>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>>> submission >>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>>> >>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> its mailing list >>>> its@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> its mailing list >>>> its@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D >> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >> Associate Professor >> Department of Software >> Sungkyunkwan University >> Office: +82-31-299-4957 >> Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu >> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >> >> > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Department of Software > Sungkyunkwan University > Office: +82-31-299-4957 > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu > Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > > --000000000000d262be05a5a2c147 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi IPWAVE WG,
I am still working for = the revision with the reviewers.
Since there are many challenging questi= ons and comments
along with my university work,
I need more time and = I will be able to finish
the revision by the end of this May.

Tha= nks for your patience and support.

Best Regards,
Paul=C2=A0

2020=EB=85=84 5=EC=9B=94 7=EC=9D=BC (=EB=AA=A9) =EC= =98=A4=ED=9B=84 12:25, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>=EB=8B=98= =EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:
Hi IPWAVE WG,
I am working for the revision with the review= ers.
I need more time and I will be able to finish early next wee= k.
I am sorry for the delay.

Best Regard= s,
Paul=C2=A0

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:02 AM Mr. Jaehoon Pa= ul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Russ, Carlos and= IPWAVE WG,
I need more time to address the reviewers' comments.
I will be able to post the revised draft early next week.

Thanks for your support and patience.

<= div>Best Regards,
Paul

=
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:19 PM Mr. Ja= ehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Russ and Carlos,
As you see, the follow= ing five people reviewed the IPWAVE PS draft according to the advice of our= AD, Suresh:

Zeungil (Be= n) Kim (Hyundai Motors)
Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC)
Yong-Joon Joe (LSware)
Jung-Soo Park (= ETRI)
Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University)

I will revise our IPWAVE PS draft = with their comments by the end of this April.
With t= he revised draft, I believe you can do WGLC for it.
=
Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul


2020=EB=85=84 3=EC=9B=94 10=EC=9D=BC (=ED=99=94) =EC=98=A4=EC= =A0=84 4:46, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>=EB=8B=98=EC= =9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:
Paul believes that he has addressed all comments in re= vision:

I think we need to let at least five reviewers= .=C2=A0 Could you do a review of this revision?=C2=A0 Please respond to the= WG mail list.

Thanks,
=C2=A0 Russ
=


On Mar 9, 2020, at 2= :17 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

=

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts= directories.
This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Veh= icular Environments WG of the IETF.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0Title =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0: IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments (IPWAVE): Problem State= ment and Use Cases
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Author =C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: Jaehoon Paul Jeong (ed= itor)
Filename =C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14.t= xt
Pages =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: 32
Date =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: 2020-03-09

Abstract:
=C2=A0=C2=A0This docume= nt discusses the problem statement and use cases of
=C2=A0=C2=A0IPv6-ba= sed vehicular networking for Intelligent Transportation
=C2=A0=C2=A0Sys= tems (ITS).=C2=A0 The main scenarios of vehicular communications are
= =C2=A0=C2=A0vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and<= br> =C2=A0=C2=A0vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications.=C2=A0 First, th= is document
=C2=A0=C2=A0explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X netw= orking.=C2=A0 Next, it
=C2=A0=C2=A0makes a problem statement about key = aspects in IPv6-based vehicular
=C2=A0=C2=A0networking, such as IPv6 Ne= ighbor Discovery, Mobility Management, and
=C2=A0=C2=A0Security & P= rivacy.=C2=A0 For each key aspect, this document specifies
=C2=A0=C2=A0= requirements for IPv6-based vehicular networking.


The IETF datat= racker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-= vehicular-networking/

There are also htmlized versions available= at:
https://tool= s.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14
https://datatracker.= ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14

A di= ff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddr= aft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14


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Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 09:26:06 +0900 Message-ID: To: "Templin (US), Fred L" Cc: Russ Housley , CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO , "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" , "its@ietf.org" , skku-iotlab-members , "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000030b5305a5a4ded2" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14.txt X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 00:26:48 -0000 --000000000000030b5305a5a4ded2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Fred, I will address those comments, too. I am also preparing a revision letter to show how to address each question and comment from the reviewers as follows: Zeungil (Ben) Kim (Hyundai Motors) Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC) Yong-Joon Joe (LSware) Jung-Soo Park (ETRI) Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University) Nancy Cam-Winget (Cisco) Fred L. Templin (The Boeing Company) Thanks. Best Regards, Paul On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:51 AM Templin (US), Fred L < Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote: > Hi Paul - I assume the comments I raised on the list beginning 4/14/2020 > > will be addressed? > > > > Thanks - Fred > > > > *From:* its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Mr. Jaehoon Paul > Jeong > *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:55 PM > *To:* Russ Housley ; CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO < > cjbc@it.uc3m.es>; its@ietf.org > *Cc:* Eric Vyncke (evyncke) ; skku-iotlab-members < > skku-iotlab-members@googlegroups.com>; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < > jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14.txt > > > > Hi IPWAVE WG, > I am still working for the revision with the reviewers. > Since there are many challenging questions and comments > along with my university work, > I need more time and I will be able to finish > the revision by the end of this May. > > Thanks for your patience and support. > > Best Regards, > Paul > > > > 2020=EB=85=84 5=EC=9B=94 7=EC=9D=BC (=EB=AA=A9) =EC=98=A4=ED=9B=84 12:25,= Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong >=EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: > > Hi IPWAVE WG, > > I am working for the revision with the reviewers. > > I need more time and I will be able to finish early next week. > > I am sorry for the delay. > > > > Best Regards, > > Paul > > > > On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:02 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < > jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Russ, Carlos and IPWAVE WG, > > I need more time to address the reviewers' comments. > > I will be able to post the revised draft early next week. > > > > Thanks for your support and patience. > > > > Best Regards, > > Paul > > > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:19 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < > jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Russ and Carlos, > > As you see, the following five people reviewed the IPWAVE PS draft > according to the advice of our AD, Suresh: > > > > Zeungil (Ben) Kim (Hyundai Motors) > > Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC) > > Yong-Joon Joe (LSware) > > Jung-Soo Park (ETRI) > > Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University) > > > > I will revise our IPWAVE PS draft with their comments by the end of this > April. > > With the revised draft, I believe you can do WGLC for it. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Best Regards, > > Paul > > > > > > 2020=EB=85=84 3=EC=9B=94 10=EC=9D=BC (=ED=99=94) =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 4:46,= Russ Housley =EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: > > Paul believes that he has addressed all comments in revision: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14 > > > > I think we need to let at least five reviewers.. Could you do a review o= f > this revision? Please respond to the WG mail list. > > > > Thanks, > > Russ > > > > > > On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:17 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular > Environments WG of the IETF. > > Title : IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments > (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases > Author : Jaehoon Paul Jeong (editor) > Filename : draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14.txt > Pages : 32 > Date : 2020-03-09 > > Abstract: > This document discusses the problem statement and use cases of > IPv6-based vehicular networking for Intelligent Transportation > Systems (ITS). The main scenarios of vehicular communications are > vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and > vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications. First, this document > explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking. Next, it > makes a problem statement about key aspects in IPv6-based vehicular > networking, such as IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, Mobility Management, and > Security & Privacy. For each key aspect, this document specifies > requirements for IPv6-based vehicular networking. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-network= ing-14 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networkin= g-14 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > > > > -- > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Department of Software > Sungkyunkwan University > Office: +82-31-299-4957 > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu > Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > > > > > > -- > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Department of Software > Sungkyunkwan University > Office: +82-31-299-4957 > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu > Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --000000000000030b5305a5a4ded2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Fred,
I will address those comments, too.
I am also preparing a revision letter to show how to address each question= and comment from
the reviewers as follows:

<= div>Zeungil (Ben) Kim (Hyundai Motors)
Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC)
Yong-Joon J= oe (LSware)
Jung-Soo Park (ETRI)
Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University)<= br>Nancy Cam-Winget (Cisco)
Fred L. Templin (The Boeing Company)

Thanks.

Best Regards,
<= div>
Paul

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:51 AM Templin (US),= Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boe= ing.com> wrote:

Hi Paul - I assume the comments I raised on = the list beginning 4/14/2020

will be addressed?

=C2=A0

Thanks - Fred

=C2=A0

From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:55 PM
To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>; CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <<= a href=3D"mailto:cjbc@it.uc3m.es" target=3D"_blank">cjbc@it.uc3m.es>= ; its@ietf.org
Cc: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com>; skku-iotlab-members <skku-iot= lab-members@googlegroups.com>; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networ= king-14.txt

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Hi IPWAVE WG,
I am still working for the revision with the reviewers.
Since there are many challenging questions and comments
along with my university work,
I need more time and I will be able to finish
the revision by the end of this May.

Thanks for your patience and support.

Best Regards,
Paul=C2=A0

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Hi IPWAVE WG,

I am working for the revision with the reviewers.=

I need more time and I will be able to finish early = next week.

I am sorry for the delay.

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Best Regards,

Paul=C2=A0

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On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:02 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeon= g <jaehoon.p= aul@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Russ, Carlos and IPWAVE WG,

I need more time to address the reviewers' comme= nts.

I will be able to post the revised draft early next = week.

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Thanks for your support and patience.<= /p>

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Best Regards,

Paul

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On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:19 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeon= g <jaehoon.p= aul@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Russ and Carlos,

As you see, the following five people reviewed the I= PWAVE PS draft according to the advice of our AD, Suresh:

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Zeungil (Ben) Kim (Hyundai Motors)

Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC)

Yong-Joon Joe (LSware)

Jung-Soo Park (ETRI)

Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University)

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I will revise our IPWAVE PS draft with their comment= s by the end of this April.

With the revised draft, I believe you can do WGLC fo= r it.

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Thanks.

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Best Regards,

Paul

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2020= =EB=85=84 3=EC=9B=94<= /span> 10=EC=9D=BC (<= span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=ED=99=94) =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 4:= 46, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>=EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:

Paul believes that he has addressed all comments in = revision:

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I think we need to let at least five reviewers..=C2= =A0 Could you do a review of this revision?=C2=A0 Please respond to the WG = mail list.

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Thanks,

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On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:17 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environmen= ts WG of the IETF.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Title =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular Enviro= nments (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Author =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: Jaehoon Paul Jeong (editor)
Filename =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehi= cular-networking-14.txt
Pages =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: 32
Date =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: 20= 20-03-09

Abstract:
=C2=A0=C2=A0This document discusses the problem statement and use cases of<= br> =C2=A0=C2=A0IPv6-based vehicular networking for Intelligent Transportation<= br> =C2=A0=C2=A0Systems (ITS).=C2=A0 The main scenarios of vehicular communicat= ions are
=C2=A0=C2=A0vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and<= br> =C2=A0=C2=A0vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications.=C2=A0 First, this d= ocument
=C2=A0=C2=A0explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking.=C2=A0 Ne= xt, it
=C2=A0=C2=A0makes a problem statement about key aspects in IPv6-based vehic= ular
=C2=A0=C2=A0networking, such as IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, Mobility Managemen= t, and
=C2=A0=C2=A0Security & Privacy.=C2=A0 For each key aspect, this documen= t specifies
=C2=A0=C2=A0requirements for IPv6-based vehicular networking.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipw= ave-vehicular-networking/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehi= cular-networking-14
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/dr= aft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-= ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp= .ietf.org/internet-drafts/


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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Software
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.= paul@gmail.com,=C2=A0pauljeong@skku.edu
Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php


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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Software
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.= paul@gmail.com,=C2=A0pauljeong@skku.edu
Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php



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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.= D.
Associate Professor
Department of Software
Sungkyunkwan Univers= ity
Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com,=C2=A0pauljeon= g@skku.edu
Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaeho= on-jeong.php
--000000000000030b5305a5a4ded2-- From nobody Fri May 15 12:23:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4F63A0816 for ; Fri, 15 May 2020 12:23:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mXgU4mB4-6x2 for ; Fri, 15 May 2020 12:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9466C3A0810 for ; Fri, 15 May 2020 12:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC41300B19 for ; Fri, 15 May 2020 15:23:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id EJEhNkE9lzqY for ; Fri, 15 May 2020 15:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (pool-72-66-113-56.washdc.fios.verizon.net [72.66.113.56]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E983300A31 for ; Fri, 15 May 2020 15:23:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A376DB69-9657-4053-93B7-A25A3C2809A8" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.14\)) Message-Id: <995BE6E5-0EBC-480D-91EA-30A72139A22E@vigilsec.com> References: <83D4CBCE-E464-4CCC-8679-592531EF7448@ietf.org> To: its Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 15:23:03 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.14) Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] Fwd: IETF 108 will be an online meeting X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 19:23:12 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A376DB69-9657-4053-93B7-A25A3C2809A8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Just in case you do not read the IETF-Announce mail list... Russ > From: IETF Chair > > Subject: IETF 108 will be an online meeting > Date: May 14, 2020 at 4:07:47 PM CDT > To: IETF-Announce >, irtf-announce@irtf.org = , IETF > > Reply-To: IETF > >=20 > The Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG), the IETF LLC Board of = Directors, and the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF) Chair have = decided to replace the in-person IETF 108 Madrid meeting with an online = meeting. This decision is based on the IETF Executive Director=E2=80=99s = recommendation, which was made after conducting an assessment of local = conditions using the criteria set out in the assessment framework [1] = developed with community input. >=20 > The recommendation and full assessment are available at: = https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_108_Madrid_go_no-go_assessment.p= df = >=20 > The online IETF 108 meeting will take place 27-31 July from 11:00 to = 16:00 UTC each day. The end time of 16:00 UTC is approximate; some days = may be shorter depending on scheduling. These time blocks were chosen = based on the survey feedback [2] we received. >=20 > Further details about the online meeting will be shared as they become = available. >=20 > Sincerely, > Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair > Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair > Jason Livingood, IETF LLC Board Chair >=20 > [1] = https://www.ietf.org/blog/assessment-criteria-decision-personvirtual-ietf-= 108/? = > [2] = https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/survey-planning-possible-online-meeti= ngs-responses.pdf = --Apple-Mail=_A376DB69-9657-4053-93B7-A25A3C2809A8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Just = in case you do not read the  IETF-Announce mail list...

Russ


From: IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org>
Subject: IETF 108 will be an online meeting
Date: = May 14, 2020 at 4:07:47 PM = CDT
To: = IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@ietf.org>, irtf-announce@irtf.org, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
Reply-To: = IETF <ietf@ietf.org>

The= Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG), the IETF LLC Board of = Directors, and the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF) Chair have = decided to replace the in-person IETF 108 Madrid meeting with an online = meeting. This decision is based on the IETF Executive Director=E2=80=99s = recommendation, which was made after conducting an assessment of local = conditions using the criteria set out in the assessment framework [1] = developed with community input.

The = recommendation and full assessment are available at: https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_108_Madrid_go_no-go_a= ssessment.pdf

The online IETF 108 = meeting will take place 27-31 July from 11:00 to 16:00 UTC each day. The = end time of 16:00 UTC is approximate; some days may be shorter depending = on scheduling. These time blocks were chosen based on the survey = feedback [2] we received.

Further details = about the online meeting will be shared as they become available.

Sincerely,
Alissa Cooper, IETF = Chair
Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair
Jason = Livingood, IETF LLC Board Chair

[1] https://www.ietf.org/blog/assessment-criteria-decision-personvi= rtual-ietf-108/?
[2] https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/survey-planning-possible-o= nline-meetings-responses.pdf

= --Apple-Mail=_A376DB69-9657-4053-93B7-A25A3C2809A8-- From nobody Mon May 18 02:31:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3873A0A1D for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 02:31:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.176 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.176 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.972, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZmMn6EYPRdA1 for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 02:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C412A3A0A1A for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 02:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04I9VjN2046017 for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 11:31:45 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id B6AA5211741 for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 11:31:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.12]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4EA21173F for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 11:31:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.11.245.214] ([10.11.245.214]) by muguet1-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04I9VjJb030962 for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 11:31:45 +0200 To: its@ietf.org References: <83D4CBCE-E464-4CCC-8679-592531EF7448@ietf.org> <995BE6E5-0EBC-480D-91EA-30A72139A22E@vigilsec.com> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 11:31:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <995BE6E5-0EBC-480D-91EA-30A72139A22E@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Fwd: IETF 108 will be an online meeting X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 09:31:50 -0000 Hi, Russ, Thank you for having forwarded that message. It is indeed very important. I am subscribed to the IETF-announce email list, but I did not receive it. That list's archive does display it, among others around May 14th, at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf-announce/ But this kind of message is very important to each WG, because it says the essential thing of a WG: how to meet. In that sense, I am surprised that the WG chairmanship has to manually forward that message. It seems to me like the administration somewhere high up in the clouds - maybe just a bit too high(?) - does not feel like it needs to inform directly the WG about it. In my feeling (it is just a feeling) this might invite someone like me, to think about proposing intermediary meetings, without asking consent from Administration. Why should we meet when the _Administration_ wants to, when we could meet when _we_ want to? Why should a single WG follow the population statistics of IETF overall in order to decide for a timeslot? For example, right now the agenda proposes an IETF virtual meeting end of July, on a timeslot 11hAM to 16hPM UTC, because that's what the IETF doodle gave. But if a group has most likely participants on Vanuatu timezone, why should that group choose an European timeslot? (or vice-versa). It is highly likely here now that a timeslot 1hAM UTC would be more attractive to a larger number of potential participants. Remark the discrepancy in timeslot. The good reason that might be necessary to coordinate with IETF Administration, is because of a need of relationship with other WGs. For example, IPWAVE might need info to/from 6MAN. But 6MAN also meets virtually. There might be other WGs to need to coordinate with. It might be that the common timeslot might be the key ressource to deal with in organizing virtual meetings. But one does not organize timeslots for virtual meetings as one organizes week-constrained same-timezone f2f meetings. Alex Le 15/05/2020 à 21:23, Russ Housley a écrit : > Just in case you do not read the **IETF-Announce mail list... > > Russ > > >> *From: *IETF Chair > >> *Subject: **IETF 108 will be an online meeting* *Date: *May 14, >> 2020 at 4:07:47 PM CDT *To: *IETF-Announce > >, irtf-announce@irtf.org >> , IETF > > *Reply-To: *IETF > > >> >> The Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG), the IETF LLC Board >> of Directors, and the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF) Chair >> have decided to replace the in-person IETF 108 Madrid meeting with >> an online meeting. This decision is based on the IETF Executive >> Director’s recommendation, which was made after conducting an >> assessment of local conditions using the criteria set out in the >> assessment framework [1] developed with community input. >> >> The recommendation and full assessment are available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_108_Madrid_go_no-go_assessment.pdf >> >> >> The online IETF 108 meeting will take place 27-31 July from 11:00 to >> 16:00 UTC each day. The end time of 16:00 UTC is approximate; some >> days may be shorter depending on scheduling. These time blocks >> were chosen based on the survey feedback [2] we received. >> >> Further details about the online meeting will be shared as they >> become available. >> >> Sincerely, Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair >> Jason Livingood, IETF LLC Board Chair >> >> [1] >> https://www.ietf.org/blog/assessment-criteria-decision-personvirtual-ietf-108/? >> >> [2] >> https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/survey-planning-possible-online-meetings-responses.pdf > >> > > _______________________________________________ its mailing list > its@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > From nobody Tue May 19 06:21:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2723A0A8E for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 06:20:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.176 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.176 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.972, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bW95HYWuhtvH for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 06:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E28763A02C1 for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 06:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04JDKl6w001201 for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 15:20:47 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CFF920D0E0 for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 15:20:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.13]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C04320D0DE for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 15:20:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.11.244.228] ([10.11.244.228]) by muguet2-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04JDKkVA024819 for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 15:20:46 +0200 To: IPWAVE WG References: <83D4CBCE-E464-4CCC-8679-592531EF7448@ietf.org> <995BE6E5-0EBC-480D-91EA-30A72139A22E@vigilsec.com> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 15:20:45 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <995BE6E5-0EBC-480D-91EA-30A72139A22E@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Fwd: IETF 108 will be an online meeting X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 13:21:00 -0000 Hi, Le 15/05/2020 à 21:23, Russ Housley a écrit : [...] >> *From: *IETF Chair > >> *Subject: **IETF 108 will be an online meeting* >> *Date: *May 14, 2020 at 4:07:47 PM CDT >> *To: [multiple] [...] >> The online IETF 108 meeting will take place 27-31 July from 11:00 to >> 16:00 UTC each day. The end time of 16:00 UTC is approximate; some >> days may be shorter depending on scheduling. These time blocks were >> chosen based on the survey feedback [2] we received. >> >> Further details about the online meeting will be shared as they become >> available. Thank you for having provided the survey results. One of the results shows a roughly 80% preference for a no-fee IETF online meeting, as opposed to a paid meeting. Hopefully that preference will be taken into account. The costs I think might be involved (other than participants' times) is the cost of the tele-conference tool like webex. Currently webex is still free, I think, but not sure in July. There are alternatives like Microsoft Teams, Skype, GoTo Meeting, each with an associated potentially non-zero cost. Some might be provided gratuitously by an organiser, or not. These are things I worry about. Alex >> [2] >> https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/survey-planning-possible-online-meetings-responses.pdf > > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > From nobody Fri May 22 08:42:58 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C1D3A0AE5 for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 08:42:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NikEFqTHbBlT for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 08:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD7183A0AD3 for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 08:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04MFgpWV008528 for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 17:42:51 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 39FE92045C8 for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 17:42:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.13]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFA7204548 for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 17:42:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.11.240.19] ([10.11.240.19]) by muguet2-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04MFglEh027264 for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 17:42:48 +0200 To: its@ietf.org References: <6221eb05-8466-f811-703a-d86e9e1032c1@gmail.com> <71f6b707-b21d-be40-e5c5-57b0d9b2e7b7@gmail.com> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <335eb5d5-ab59-a6b4-891f-18b611b8887f@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 17:42:46 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <71f6b707-b21d-be40-e5c5-57b0d9b2e7b7@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 15:42:56 -0000 Hi, There is news from Potsdam about an 802.11p (aka OCB mode) patch for an ath10k driver, probably for a Mikrotik R11 kind of card. https://gitlab.com/hpi-potsdam/osm/g5-on-linux/11p-on-linux/-/tree/ath10k Alex Le 13/03/2020 à 10:21, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : > I dont know whether the patch files and howto for ath10k were received > by participants or not.  Some have not; I sent them the files in private. > > The patch files might be missing from my email because I think it might > be that the email system 'mailman' filters (cuts) the attachments. > > To avoid that misunderstanding, one should use a repository. > > A repository of appropriate profile could be at > https://its.dot.gov/code/ « ITS Code Hub » > > One could try to make an account and upload the files of ath10k to that > repository, and then publish here the link. > > Other questions I have about that dot.gov site is whether or not it > supports IPv6 access, but that is accessory.  github.com doesnt support > IPv6 either. > > Another question one might raise before putting the files there is about > that being in a country and not in another country.  At this time I do > not mind about that, because the technology of this code is to be used > in any country, like the Internet. > > Alex > > Le 11/03/2020 à 15:31, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> I am looking for support for making the OCB mode for ath10k drivers >> for linux. >> >> Currently there is no OCB mode for ath10k drivers. >> >> An OCB driver for ath10k driver would open the path towards using >> 802.11ac in vehicular networks in OCB mode. >> >> We tried to make it work but we have not succeeded fully. >> >> One initial error is this: >>> root@OpenWrt:/# iw dev wlan3 ocb join 5900 10MHz >>> command failed: Invalid argument (-22) >> One initial success is this: >>> Ifconfig wlan3 shows the following output. It shows that the >>> interface is up. >>> wlan3 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 04:F0:21:54:42:D7 >>> UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 >>> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 >>> TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >>> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 >>> RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) >> >> >> We developped the premisses of a OCB patch for ath10k, and a howto. >> They are attached to this email. >> >> We have several additional binary firmwares for the card, that could >> be found on the web too. We have an ath9k patch that is minimal.  Also >> a few additional explanatory files.  All attached. >> >> We have one cheap 802.11ac minipci card Compex WLE900VX from Amazon. >> We could send it by post to an interested person, if that's not too >> expensive, or maybe pass it during a f2f meeting, or via somebody. >> This is common practice. >> >> The person who realized this OCB package for ath10k deserves many >> thanks - Mariama SARR.  And earlier persons who produced initial works >> on ath5k and ath9k. >> >> Alex >> >> Le 18/12/2019 à 11:38, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : >>> Hi, IPWAVErs, >>> >>> I would like to know whether someone else works on an OCB patch for >>> ath10k? >>> >>> We work on a patch file for OCB mode for ath10k driver for linux. >>> >>> An OCB patch for ath10k would allow to get more bandwidth.  One could >>>  get more bandwidth than the 16mbit/s of 802.11p by linking two to >>> five channels even with just an ath9k driver (for which exist OCB >>> patches). But with ath10k there might be other advantages and even >>> higher bandwidth. >>> >>> An OCB patch for ath10k driver does not exist in the Internet. >>> >>> We do not post yet our patch file because it does not work yet, and >>> we do not want to vehiculate false hopes.  But I will post it end of >>> March 2020 at latest, at the end of the project. >>> >>> The card we use is "PC ngines WL900VX - 802.11ac miniPCI Xpress >>> Radio" for 35,46Eur on Amazon.  It is Made in China.  It has three >>> antenna plugs. >>> >>> The status of working is: we can add OCB mode and and configure the >>> card in OCB mode.  Still there is an error "command failed (invalid >>> argument (-22)" when the iw command is issued. >>> >>> Our current patch file is 910 lines long and touches on many files, >>> such as mac.c in folder >>> openwrt-08112019/build_dir/target-arm_cortex-a9+neon_musl-1.1.12_eabi/linux-imx6/linux-4.4/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath10k, >>>  and others. >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> _______________________________________________ its mailing list >>> its@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > From nobody Fri May 22 09:23:09 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950CE3A0C59 for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 09:23:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zHYXK5gwfLCA for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 09:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [193.110.157.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D817A3A0C30 for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 09:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49TBc651W0zG4L; Fri, 22 May 2020 18:23:02 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1590164582; bh=Vj/VJOP/dvia32sF+uSl2lDelk/FxdlHcyEeK+ZPshw=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=pH5JHCRhwiPAC7X0j+AF4tNfmEZIQ/mMDokJjommJEbp4q9k3WRWh4n4Vwa7j00Ro B/NZ9mIVq5usta2H/tI7PvAuVKhUZrXK01PMxVLc8qAk60vCrRGs6On/gjXudXj4lq ujvrIZk04ZTuem2k0ZGQx/TVmcKMxIC1At0D2XG8= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N4cFRqwGdUqS; Fri, 22 May 2020 18:23:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Fri, 22 May 2020 18:23:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 339E76020EFF; Fri, 22 May 2020 12:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE8766B7C; Fri, 22 May 2020 12:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 12:22:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Wouters To: Alexandre Petrescu cc: its@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <335eb5d5-ab59-a6b4-891f-18b611b8887f@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <6221eb05-8466-f811-703a-d86e9e1032c1@gmail.com> <71f6b707-b21d-be40-e5c5-57b0d9b2e7b7@gmail.com> <335eb5d5-ab59-a6b4-891f-18b611b8887f@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 16:23:08 -0000 On Fri, 22 May 2020, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > There is news from Potsdam about an 802.11p (aka OCB mode) patch for an > ath10k driver, probably for a Mikrotik R11 kind of card. > > https://gitlab.com/hpi-potsdam/osm/g5-on-linux/11p-on-linux/-/tree/ath10k Did the license issues regarding the use of OCB outside of TLS RFC's get resolved? Paul From nobody Fri May 22 12:00:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6112A3A00C4 for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 12:00:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O4g2fM8FdohM for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 12:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 705CE3A00C1 for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 12:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by cirse-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04MIxvPn046301; Fri, 22 May 2020 20:59:57 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id CBB4B2046BF; Fri, 22 May 2020 20:59:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.13]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4BE2046B8; Fri, 22 May 2020 20:59:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.11.240.19] ([10.11.240.19]) by muguet2-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04MIxvu8001885; Fri, 22 May 2020 20:59:57 +0200 To: Paul Wouters Cc: its@ietf.org References: <6221eb05-8466-f811-703a-d86e9e1032c1@gmail.com> <71f6b707-b21d-be40-e5c5-57b0d9b2e7b7@gmail.com> <335eb5d5-ab59-a6b4-891f-18b611b8887f@gmail.com> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <4fd5aebf-cc9b-76c5-ae89-066933deb9ac@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 20:59:56 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 19:00:03 -0000 'TLS'? (transport layer security?) Alex Le 22/05/2020 à 18:22, Paul Wouters a écrit : > On Fri, 22 May 2020, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > >> There is news from Potsdam about an 802.11p (aka OCB mode) patch for >> an ath10k driver, probably for a Mikrotik R11 kind of card. >> >> https://gitlab.com/hpi-potsdam/osm/g5-on-linux/11p-on-linux/-/tree/ath10k > > Did the license issues regarding the use of OCB outside of TLS RFC's get > resolved? > > Paul From nobody Tue May 26 07:11:37 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B303A0F87 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 07:11:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4G8vOi55-cwo for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 07:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DB143A0F90 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 07:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by cirse-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04QEBKle044781; Tue, 26 May 2020 16:11:20 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 21E8A20F536; Tue, 26 May 2020 16:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.12]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D3B20F51F; Tue, 26 May 2020 16:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.8.35.150] (is154594.intra.cea.fr [10.8.35.150]) by muguet1-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04QEBJuh003636; Tue, 26 May 2020 16:11:20 +0200 To: Paul Wouters Cc: its@ietf.org References: <6221eb05-8466-f811-703a-d86e9e1032c1@gmail.com> <71f6b707-b21d-be40-e5c5-57b0d9b2e7b7@gmail.com> <335eb5d5-ab59-a6b4-891f-18b611b8887f@gmail.com> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 16:11:19 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 14:11:32 -0000 Le 22/05/2020 à 18:22, Paul Wouters a écrit : > On Fri, 22 May 2020, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > >> There is news from Potsdam about an 802.11p (aka OCB mode) patch for >> an ath10k driver, probably for a Mikrotik R11 kind of card. >> >> https://gitlab.com/hpi-potsdam/osm/g5-on-linux/11p-on-linux/-/tree/ath10k > > Did the license issues regarding the use of OCB outside of TLS RFC's get > resolved? I suspect TLS implementation is exclusively in the userspace. That might have a distinct license scheme, that I do not know. The OCB patches to ath10k drivers have license schemes that are different. They would cover generic files deep in the kernel wifi structures, and files more specific to a particular manufacturer, like Compex, or Atheros, Intel, or similar. They would be a mixed set of licenses both GPL and BSD "no warranty" kinds. I think Atheros licenses are easier to use by open source developpers. But I do not know what more precisely in TLS userspace licensing might block the use of TLS over 802.11-OCB? I do know, however, that there are huge obstacles in making PKI for vehicular networks like we have PKI for the Internet at large. There's no agreed Certificate Authority for vehicular networks, yet there is agreement that the Internet CAs would not be ok for vehicular networks. It is hard to obtain certificates for vehicular networks. Maybe that difficult situation of CA for vehicular networks relates to a potential licensing problem of TLS? Alex From nobody Tue May 26 07:39:00 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3103A0BE4 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 07:35:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4JCsIdbwATb6 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 07:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.eurecom.fr (smtp.eurecom.fr [193.55.113.210]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E9B3A144E for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 07:33:59 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.73,437,1583190000"; d="scan'208";a="520494" Received: from monza.eurecom.fr ([192.168.106.15]) by drago1i.eurecom.fr with ESMTP; 26 May 2020 16:33:58 +0200 Received: from portege33 (portege33.eurecom.fr [172.17.31.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by monza.eurecom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3DEBD3A84; Tue, 26 May 2020 16:33:58 +0200 (CEST) From: =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgSMOkcnJp?= To: "'Alexandre Petrescu'" , "'Paul Wouters'" Cc: References: <6221eb05-8466-f811-703a-d86e9e1032c1@gmail.com> <71f6b707-b21d-be40-e5c5-57b0d9b2e7b7@gmail.com> <335eb5d5-ab59-a6b4-891f-18b611b8887f@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 16:33:58 +0200 Organization: EURECOM Message-ID: <07f701d6336a$b0f2f230$12d8d690$@eurecom.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQF4cAFYITYdRnyAtIWyQgBd4CS0RQHpoK57AcIarQcCEd4jhwLuBdUCAdsE8dsCTZmWRqkPUT2A Content-Language: en Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 14:35:42 -0000 Hi Alex, all, Minor precision: there is a globally agreed EU PKI architecture = developed at the C2C and used by ETSI and also now C-ROAD to handle KPI = for C-ITS applications in the EU. In theory, nothing refrains an entity = to become a certificate provider, but the complexity (and cost) for = doing it and reaching the defined security requirements and guaranties = make it indeed very hard to get it 'open' to research :-( =20 However, you may have a look at the OpenSource C-ITS Stack Vanetza = https://www.vanetza.org/=20 Under 'tools' you will see a KPI generator code (standalone), providing = correct certificate (tickets) and signatures for ETSI ITS stacks. So = far, it is only compliant with the ETSI Security architecture version = 1.2, but we (and other people involved) are working to extend it for = version 1.3.1 (the current one used by C-ROADs).=20 Cheers, J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me -----Original Message----- From: its On Behalf Of Alexandre Petrescu Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 16:11 To: Paul Wouters Cc: its@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux Le 22/05/2020 =C3=A0 18:22, Paul Wouters a =C3=A9crit : > On Fri, 22 May 2020, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >=20 >> There is news from Potsdam about an 802.11p (aka OCB mode) patch for=20 >> an ath10k driver, probably for a Mikrotik R11 kind of card. >> >> https://gitlab.com/hpi-potsdam/osm/g5-on-linux/11p-on-linux/-/tree/at >> h10k >=20 > Did the license issues regarding the use of OCB outside of TLS RFC's=20 > get resolved? I suspect TLS implementation is exclusively in the userspace. That = might have a distinct license scheme, that I do not know. The OCB patches to ath10k drivers have license schemes that are = different. They would cover generic files deep in the kernel wifi = structures, and files more specific to a particular manufacturer, like = Compex, or Atheros, Intel, or similar. They would be a mixed set of = licenses both GPL and BSD "no warranty" kinds. I think Atheros licenses are easier to use by open source developpers. But I do not know what more precisely in TLS userspace licensing might = block the use of TLS over 802.11-OCB? I do know, however, that there are huge obstacles in making PKI for = vehicular networks like we have PKI for the Internet at large. There's = no agreed Certificate Authority for vehicular networks, yet there is = agreement that the Internet CAs would not be ok for vehicular networks.=20 It is hard to obtain certificates for vehicular networks. Maybe that difficult situation of CA for vehicular networks relates to a = potential licensing problem of TLS? Alex _______________________________________________ its mailing list its@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its From nobody Tue May 26 09:40:20 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544FC3A08C5 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 09:40:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WrSgg6Kyw6RZ for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 09:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [193.110.157.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55CC03A08B0 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 09:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49Wfp72w9PzLfP; Tue, 26 May 2020 18:40:15 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1590511215; bh=JU3bo7aJJ9ajvjVyKXzkbC9nHzI8Ke5Ays2v9ltcKtY=; h=From:Subject:Date:References:Cc:In-Reply-To:To; b=VxGSkDLRJ7F48JPpZ53ZbbOTjEteu2lFDVSqV5AWoXCJPHCb2KbflehBV9PiitfKx 6Uitom+AtazC4foVbjL7ha66CRTeuzypxmihCVTMMYt9MvUid3IG2G+qxEs2LrnABE UxZindHi4whpNJ4TnCJavFWnvoJl2ldb7NM9sNsY= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id seIOpjqsCaAF; Tue, 26 May 2020 18:40:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Tue, 26 May 2020 18:40:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [193.111.228.74] (unknown [193.111.228.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A9A06029B99; Tue, 26 May 2020 12:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Paul Wouters Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 12:40:07 -0400 Message-Id: <5544727E-77F4-486C-A410-0B152589E9E3@nohats.ca> References: Cc: its@ietf.org In-Reply-To: To: Alexandre Petrescu X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17F75) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 16:40:19 -0000 Not it is not the code licence I=E2=80=99m worried about but the IPR claims o= n OCB. You might not have a license to use it and only then do we run into limitati= ons of using it in proprietary software as well. Paul Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2020, at 10:11, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >=20 >> Le 22/05/2020 =C3=A0 18:22, Paul Wouters a =C3=A9crit : >>> On Fri, 22 May 2020, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >>> There is news from Potsdam about an 802.11p (aka OCB mode) patch for an a= th10k driver, probably for a Mikrotik R11 kind of card. >>>=20 >>> https://gitlab.com/hpi-potsdam/osm/g5-on-linux/11p-on-linux/-/tree/ath10= k >> Did the license issues regarding the use of OCB outside of TLS RFC's get >> resolved? >=20 > I suspect TLS implementation is exclusively in the userspace. That might h= ave a distinct license scheme, that I do not know. >=20 > The OCB patches to ath10k drivers have license schemes that are different.= They would cover generic files deep in the kernel wifi structures, and fil= es more specific to a particular manufacturer, like Compex, or Atheros, Inte= l, or similar. They would be a mixed set of licenses both GPL and BSD "no w= arranty" kinds. >=20 > I think Atheros licenses are easier to use by open source developpers. >=20 > But I do not know what more precisely in TLS userspace licensing might blo= ck the use of TLS over 802.11-OCB? >=20 > I do know, however, that there are huge obstacles in making PKI for vehicu= lar networks like we have PKI for the Internet at large. There's no agreed C= ertificate Authority for vehicular networks, yet there is agreement that the= Internet CAs would not be ok for vehicular networks. It is hard to obtain c= ertificates for vehicular networks. >=20 > Maybe that difficult situation of CA for vehicular networks relates to a p= otential licensing problem of TLS? >=20 > Alex From nobody Wed May 27 03:21:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596583A0CBC for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 03:21:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YMRpiI7esYWu for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 03:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B53293A0CBB for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 03:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by cirse-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04RAKu3J034372; Wed, 27 May 2020 12:20:56 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 16C62208C56; Wed, 27 May 2020 12:20:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.12]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0822A2058A2; Wed, 27 May 2020 12:20:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.11.243.244] ([10.11.243.244]) by muguet1-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 04RAKtBp005963; Wed, 27 May 2020 12:20:55 +0200 To: Paul Wouters Cc: its@ietf.org References: <5544727E-77F4-486C-A410-0B152589E9E3@nohats.ca> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <8c023d60-63c0-27bf-58be-756deee93797@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 12:20:55 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5544727E-77F4-486C-A410-0B152589E9E3@nohats.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 10:21:00 -0000 Le 26/05/2020 à 18:40, Paul Wouters a écrit : > Not it is not the code licence I’m worried about but the IPR claims on OCB. Do you think the OCB mode of 802.11 is IPR'ed? Where can I search the claims? Alex > > You might not have a license to use it and only then do we run into limitations of using it in proprietary software as well. > > Paul > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 26, 2020, at 10:11, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >> >>  >> >>> Le 22/05/2020 à 18:22, Paul Wouters a écrit : >>>> On Fri, 22 May 2020, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >>>> There is news from Potsdam about an 802.11p (aka OCB mode) patch for an ath10k driver, probably for a Mikrotik R11 kind of card. >>>> >>>> https://gitlab.com/hpi-potsdam/osm/g5-on-linux/11p-on-linux/-/tree/ath10k >>> Did the license issues regarding the use of OCB outside of TLS RFC's get >>> resolved? >> >> I suspect TLS implementation is exclusively in the userspace. That might have a distinct license scheme, that I do not know. >> >> The OCB patches to ath10k drivers have license schemes that are different. They would cover generic files deep in the kernel wifi structures, and files more specific to a particular manufacturer, like Compex, or Atheros, Intel, or similar. They would be a mixed set of licenses both GPL and BSD "no warranty" kinds. >> >> I think Atheros licenses are easier to use by open source developpers. >> >> But I do not know what more precisely in TLS userspace licensing might block the use of TLS over 802.11-OCB? >> >> I do know, however, that there are huge obstacles in making PKI for vehicular networks like we have PKI for the Internet at large. There's no agreed Certificate Authority for vehicular networks, yet there is agreement that the Internet CAs would not be ok for vehicular networks. It is hard to obtain certificates for vehicular networks. >> >> Maybe that difficult situation of CA for vehicular networks relates to a potential licensing problem of TLS? >> >> Alex > From nobody Wed May 27 18:33:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954093A0863 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 18:33:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XAeekvEcI_I2 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 18:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [193.110.157.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D24833A086A for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 18:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49XVb43PTwz1kD; Thu, 28 May 2020 03:33:36 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1590629616; bh=LykYpWpE8SC37y60CWqIdTO+LIutf3saiXXTpjQPSpI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=Sk4BDB5kECEFc3cLm2Qbx3un/xP5QhOxkLLXBhpLZli7+4GzGMdcTg+95JaRxc1dv cDzhfbMRrrFUTO/i+qNC+6ZESBLYYEnAF50kJzEyfDMlN68jm7dYnL98S4w5ePQuNX fah2WtNfGpYYAr9dLkX2KPSgDMhWqQlOCxYQc7uA= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XFy6rS2wl3ik; Thu, 28 May 2020 03:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Thu, 28 May 2020 03:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 170016029B9B; Wed, 27 May 2020 21:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1323166B7C; Wed, 27 May 2020 21:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 21:33:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Wouters To: Alexandre Petrescu cc: its@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <8c023d60-63c0-27bf-58be-756deee93797@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <5544727E-77F4-486C-A410-0B152589E9E3@nohats.ca> <8c023d60-63c0-27bf-58be-756deee93797@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 01:33:40 -0000 On Wed, 27 May 2020, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > Le 26/05/2020 à 18:40, Paul Wouters a écrit : >> Not it is not the code licence I’m worried about but the IPR claims on >> OCB. > > Do you think the OCB mode of 802.11 is IPR'ed? Where can I search the > claims? It is the other way around. There is IPR on OCB, and for _some uses_ there are royalty free licenses. For most use cases, AFAIK, there is no such license. We have some IPR related claims at IETF here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-irtf-cfrg-ocb And wikipedia lists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCB_mode By January 2013, the author has granted a free license for any open source license certified by the Open Source Initiative.[8] The original site with license seems to have vanished: https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/ocb/license.htm So yes, I think OCB in proprietary implementation of 802.11 would require a non-free license, and would therefor not be suitable for an IETF standard. Paul From nobody Wed May 27 22:47:41 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC6F3A0AD3 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 22:47:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=us-toyota-itc-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hyADNBUw5fLN for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 22:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot1-x32b.google.com (mail-ot1-x32b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::32b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B5123A0AD1 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 22:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x32b.google.com with SMTP id g25so1466772otp.13 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 22:47:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=us-toyota-itc-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xdyoHZXhQ/EAQ3E+iywEyMwHUi3FQbj6afwyFiKXV1Q=; b=nzAvhmdTzmlqf/9lR4yu9hZAKcYmqLLURFH5z4AwqjW2VAKpJ/V5NKA+klys8BiZ07 DjFubGOG+S9B82abqYX21QsfF62cN6+hT09I7B5N1wtQrIvR2sEc2IPzSprjrzd+Xbd7 6cjOl978xwJlSv5dx3+2s2ksyiWHn70LOYsavpl/l3X0NokPmYPbsaCGIqPuE/734A0R bXa5WLzJD9gpf5zwkMH8tvJfE2+nYYOdZ/+YYZG/+pV+XR6wNwhomuEARRZD92cvN0V2 5XXUWyWBlsO+ZjuI5GFDHmlBuEvIIgGrpIm5frgmgOjeBnm4aDU5FDuKw9KGOxDjMM7b KmGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xdyoHZXhQ/EAQ3E+iywEyMwHUi3FQbj6afwyFiKXV1Q=; b=jOHWakwULP3oaU3mYS8SxlBx5c2m+xWU/umdfYA9g5znv+rsXwbe/KynBK0rO6C/6Q Epihh3ngGxVpOgPaahqjEE9GRv53LPoM1wsDMJNdib5iTQcii6vWBRjnvpYOG9Kqi9hO cb7yn60Xuqeb9r3jFTu9Z0S4sjxLXD/FrfODzsxacKPiclI9yXv6uJjMHxkWJmiimWNb +8l/R3VpNk3sbsjps1hD36zCOV1hLk4rWEfa8zucsVqjudklRWwYj1LmnMVSNq6TBzte JEBucZab/R8yeccjKn5UtIsGPaPDYC8+/q3+BzFsIv9ZaVswSE3utBQG9Lyy3pyOg0ip kdHA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Tjd4mNTT+OMZI+2rmlozRGBrybTv4R9qf31DxTlZzd1DmKkxb UM4+QD3k4UGKplRjYZj02Ws2DhJ+l7sboLczUuducQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx3hh+rNlghxFEwIu/NouAfq6DX7rftS+KTDjZjM7Dy0o2X2LJMWk37O/LTBkLxrYKh4g8XzSlpNA9w59Vlxrs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:16c5:: with SMTP id l5mr1193946otr.14.1590644856462; Wed, 27 May 2020 22:47:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5544727E-77F4-486C-A410-0B152589E9E3@nohats.ca> <8c023d60-63c0-27bf-58be-756deee93797@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: John Kenney Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 22:47:25 -0700 Message-ID: To: Paul Wouters Cc: Alexandre Petrescu , its@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a246c005a6aedd27" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 05:47:40 -0000 --000000000000a246c005a6aedd27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think there is some confusion about the abbreviation OCB. For DSRC it stands for Outside the Context of a BSS. The Wikipedia link below is for something called Offset Codebook Mode. I don=E2=80=99t know what that is, = but it has nothing to do with DSRC. On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 6:33 PM Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 27 May 2020, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > > > Le 26/05/2020 =C3=A0 18:40, Paul Wouters a =C3=A9crit : > >> Not it is not the code licence I=E2=80=99m worried about but the IPR = claims on > >> OCB. > > > > Do you think the OCB mode of 802.11 is IPR'ed? Where can I search the > > claims? > > It is the other way around. There is IPR on OCB, and for _some uses_ > there are royalty free licenses. For most use cases, AFAIK, there is > no such license. > > We have some IPR related claims at IETF here: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=3Ddraft&id=3Ddraft-irtf-c= frg-ocb > > And wikipedia lists: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCB_mode > > By January 2013, the author has granted a free license for any op= en > source license certified by the Open Source Initiative.[8] > > The original site with license seems to have vanished: > > https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/ocb/license.htm > > > So yes, I think OCB in proprietary implementation of 802.11 would > require a non-free license, and would therefor not be suitable for > an IETF standard. > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > --=20 John Kenney Director and Sr. Principal Researcher Toyota InfoTech Labs 465 Bernardo Avenue Mountain View, CA 94043 Tel: 650-694-4160. 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I think there is some confusion about the abbreviati= on OCB. For DSRC it stands for Outside the Context of a BSS.=C2=A0 The Wiki= pedia link below is for something called Offset Codebook Mode.=C2=A0 I don= =E2=80=99t know what that is, but it has nothing to do with DSRC.

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 6:33 PM Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2020, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:

> Le 26/05/2020 =C3=A0 18:40, Paul Wouters a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>>=C2=A0 Not it is not the code licence I=E2=80=99m worried about but= the IPR claims on
>>=C2=A0 OCB.
>
> Do you think the OCB mode of 802.11 is IPR'ed?=C2=A0 Where can I s= earch the
> claims?

It is the other way around. There is IPR on OCB, and for _some uses_
there are royalty free licenses. For most use cases, AFAIK, there is
no such license.

We have some IPR related claims at IETF here:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=3Ddraft&id= =3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-ocb

And wikipedia lists:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCB_= mode

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 By January 2013, the author has granted a free = license for any open
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 source license certified by the Open Source Ini= tiative.[8]

The original site with license seems to have vanished:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://web.cs.ucdavi= s.edu/~rogaway/ocb/license.htm


So yes, I think OCB in proprietary implementation of 802.11 would
require a non-free license, and would therefor not be suitable for
an IETF standard.

Paul

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--000000000000a246c005a6aedd27-- From nobody Thu May 28 06:41:19 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A78C3A0EB3 for ; Thu, 28 May 2020 06:41:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lqt13287cPA7 for ; Thu, 28 May 2020 06:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:2a03:6000:1004:1::68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 745E33A0D6E for ; Thu, 28 May 2020 06:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49XpkZ4gzZzCxG; Thu, 28 May 2020 15:41:10 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1590673270; bh=cWD1fMjkxcSw+Vp/2AhxFc2yI/6wLmgcEGqeryP/2tY=; h=From:Subject:Date:References:Cc:In-Reply-To:To; b=PM9YZZ7MWiJ7rbj0oDdBu7ZZqjQfnnA2gPQqFXGXlgGacswFdW9N6Xs/NBJC0fJmy C4QRBiTav7AK80aMngqQEoeocfLQ7UPDPN+D4RHaTWQ6kToDK4QXKv0NhjCNyJHJv9 MHB5BBj/NXnr+Ov1kHgjCjoZBZ5FfogUVsB8Lkkk= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OPbOg4g9Jyys; Thu, 28 May 2020 15:41:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Thu, 28 May 2020 15:41:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [193.111.228.74] (unknown [193.111.228.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 68D9F6029B99; Thu, 28 May 2020 09:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Paul Wouters Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 09:40:58 -0400 Message-Id: <36C8812E-2AC4-466A-A7E6-D47A4DE98717@nohats.ca> References: <0A022EAFC1FE4244920551E0916A2EF1@SRA6> Cc: Alexandre Petrescu , its@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <0A022EAFC1FE4244920551E0916A2EF1@SRA6> To: dickroy@alum.mit.edu X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17F75) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 13:41:18 -0000 Ohhhh=20 I didn=E2=80=99t realize the acronyms referred to something completely diffe= rent. Thanks for pointing that out. It=E2=80=99s good to know there is no issue. S= orry about the noise. Paul Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2020, at 00:53, Dick Roy wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFThe OCB IPR you are referencing is Offset Codebook Mode having NO= THING to do > with Outside the Context of a BSS (OCB). I will repeat what I said earlie= r; > there is NO (valid) IPR on the 802.11 OCB mode of operation. >=20 > RR >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wouters > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 6:34 PM > To: Alexandre Petrescu > Cc: its@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [ipwave] About OCB patch for ath10k driver on linux >=20 >> On Wed, 27 May 2020, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >>=20 >>> Le 26/05/2020 =C3=A0 18:40, Paul Wouters a =C3=A9crit : >>> Not it is not the code licence I=E2=80=99m worried about but the IPR cla= ims on >>> OCB. >>=20 >> Do you think the OCB mode of 802.11 is IPR'ed? Where can I search the=20= >> claims? >=20 > It is the other way around. There is IPR on OCB, and for _some uses_ > there are royalty free licenses. For most use cases, AFAIK, there is > no such license. >=20 > We have some IPR related claims at IETF here: >=20 >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=3Ddraft&id=3Ddraft-irtf-cf= rg-ocb >=20 > And wikipedia lists: >=20 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCB_mode >=20 > By January 2013, the author has granted a free license for any open > source license certified by the Open Source Initiative.[8] >=20 > The original site with license seems to have vanished: >=20 > https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/ocb/license.htm >=20 >=20 > So yes, I think OCB in proprietary implementation of 802.11 would > require a non-free license, and would therefor not be suitable for > an IETF standard. >=20 > Paul >=20 > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its From nobody Sun May 31 16:53:06 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754A53A0844 for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 16:53:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.087 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.087 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_HK_NAME_FM_MR_MRS=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tRSF-nPj1Xc0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 16:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf1-x12f.google.com (mail-lf1-x12f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4AE33A0841 for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 16:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x12f.google.com with SMTP id e125so2919739lfd.1 for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 16:53:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=KTg7IwycQgFfHUIXJhrkX0sUmR6jh3+WeXbCW2+k4UM=; b=CWhGn3XlqlnPOWVzOP2kVwSIzwVwWr5rHL/970KcINuRtSy/9JCOwu1gIPm8rmIxaS cpPshSncQmqjrc6xoNJvyEJctvPEXZGnuUjDcbCUGdKsQEJUJBBZf1dwJKGpFzCfAEGe 1T6SQq3vCfpPx3BTLCrI5X7g7iNkbjET/9BlsvDeg0BsOMc/zPAoG9ts2tilOhNZfUFt sVjp3jfRaxkJ5iphMUpfhf3JwmfxguTF7Qa7EOy1y7HWDqVuUaH2ckBzCbVxcRWR/qez PFMGiQZnvLjZzx7FeGMMBAbEc+S7QR6nLiKO6vzUwebDfRKIsJMQsnD6+cX7yoVPNkXF Rllw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KTg7IwycQgFfHUIXJhrkX0sUmR6jh3+WeXbCW2+k4UM=; b=PrLH9vUey+0xYa7SOTJAXtvASWQ9DTRLwVYVUTLnKvtz6FmdNcRVgCNiOGf/Yl2T6o /yTeSMdZ2rmVTWBabkhOZdRj8FiUoaIbmFIbhUMVkPiDs8CFK16hzwkJpoUKfkLJpgVq XIGh6ZiQjvya9tRdD77LoomXfMe1pREOduWZH9cw8BOpMtaf7Xwbjop2+SvpcVkw8QOH d9z68dxWZY+ODOeKY+pgFJEWCLFzefb9t3P76FaMZLMxdd9jMXEXvmdjmh/wIB9UbaxR 3uqeK5hUy7I8X/gWIqL31XdARLUfvyJgjpTT/qJjcQgvYFCDdA4EmjZ7uQHvvt1IRxy/ +RBA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532rA/kp5KVu5Oq0joO+Z/id/CZKDK4aw0k5Y4SgMt462ZfIlS6I Lgr/7XNy2gQGzcPZ4rUCzzaEmbPkLgFktzSFVlRU75xN X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJztfMlxMcZyEizOByCuz4kya8lDBm5WrykQwUstmmizUeSxZHiE5CPhH9IBCoFJxV8D5FIgHFDwCxAG0z+8PYY= X-Received: by 2002:a19:8447:: with SMTP id g68mr10047201lfd.132.1590969179478; Sun, 31 May 2020 16:52:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <158377782203.5503.9266337240401588359@ietfa.amsl.com> <7266c1024f6e46cab3b8b76a1e31f772@boeing.com> In-Reply-To: From: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 08:52:23 +0900 Message-ID: To: its@ietf.org Cc: skku-iotlab-members , "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ca9e9e05a6fa6035" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14.txt X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 23:53:05 -0000 --000000000000ca9e9e05a6fa6035 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi IPWAVE WG, I am still working for the revision of the IPWAVE PS draft, but I need another week to finish the revision. I was so busy with my other university works. I will try to finish the revision as soon as possible. Thanks for your patience and support. Best Regards, Paul On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:26 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Fred, > I will address those comments, too. > I am also preparing a revision letter to show how to address each questio= n > and comment from > the reviewers as follows: > > Zeungil (Ben) Kim (Hyundai Motors) > Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC) > Yong-Joon Joe (LSware) > Jung-Soo Park (ETRI) > Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University) > Nancy Cam-Winget (Cisco) > Fred L. Templin (The Boeing Company) > > Thanks. > > Best Regards, > > Paul > > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:51 AM Templin (US), Fred L < > Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote: > >> Hi Paul - I assume the comments I raised on the list beginning 4/14/2020 >> >> will be addressed? >> >> >> >> Thanks - Fred >> >> >> >> *From:* its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Mr. Jaehoon >> Paul Jeong >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:55 PM >> *To:* Russ Housley ; CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO < >> cjbc@it.uc3m.es>; its@ietf.org >> *Cc:* Eric Vyncke (evyncke) ; skku-iotlab-members < >> skku-iotlab-members@googlegroups.com>; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < >> jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: >> draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14.txt >> >> >> >> Hi IPWAVE WG, >> I am still working for the revision with the reviewers. >> Since there are many challenging questions and comments >> along with my university work, >> I need more time and I will be able to finish >> the revision by the end of this May. >> >> Thanks for your patience and support. >> >> Best Regards, >> Paul >> >> >> >> 2020=EB=85=84 5=EC=9B=94 7=EC=9D=BC (=EB=AA=A9) =EC=98=A4=ED=9B=84 12:25= , Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong > >=EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: >> >> Hi IPWAVE WG, >> >> I am working for the revision with the reviewers. >> >> I need more time and I will be able to finish early next week. >> >> I am sorry for the delay. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:02 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < >> jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Russ, Carlos and IPWAVE WG, >> >> I need more time to address the reviewers' comments. >> >> I will be able to post the revised draft early next week. >> >> >> >> Thanks for your support and patience. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:19 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < >> jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Russ and Carlos, >> >> As you see, the following five people reviewed the IPWAVE PS draft >> according to the advice of our AD, Suresh: >> >> >> >> Zeungil (Ben) Kim (Hyundai Motors) >> >> Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC) >> >> Yong-Joon Joe (LSware) >> >> Jung-Soo Park (ETRI) >> >> Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University) >> >> >> >> I will revise our IPWAVE PS draft with their comments by the end of this >> April. >> >> With the revised draft, I believe you can do WGLC for it. >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> 2020=EB=85=84 3=EC=9B=94 10=EC=9D=BC (=ED=99=94) =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 4:46= , Russ Housley =EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: >> >> Paul believes that he has addressed all comments in revision: >> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14 >> >> >> >> I think we need to let at least five reviewers.. Could you do a review >> of this revision? Please respond to the WG mail list. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Russ >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:17 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> >> >> >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular >> Environments WG of the IETF. >> >> Title : IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments >> (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases >> Author : Jaehoon Paul Jeong (editor) >> Filename : draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14.txt >> Pages : 32 >> Date : 2020-03-09 >> >> Abstract: >> This document discusses the problem statement and use cases of >> IPv6-based vehicular networking for Intelligent Transportation >> Systems (ITS). The main scenarios of vehicular communications are >> vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and >> vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications. First, this document >> explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking. Next, it >> makes a problem statement about key aspects in IPv6-based vehicular >> networking, such as IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, Mobility Management, and >> Security & Privacy. For each key aspect, this document specifies >> requirements for IPv6-based vehicular networking. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/ >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14 >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networ= king-14 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networki= ng-14 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> its mailing list >> its@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> its mailing list >> its@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D >> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >> Associate Professor >> Department of Software >> Sungkyunkwan University >> Office: +82-31-299-4957 >> Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu >> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D >> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >> Associate Professor >> Department of Software >> Sungkyunkwan University >> Office: +82-31-299-4957 >> Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu >> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >> >> >> > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Department of Software > Sungkyunkwan University > Office: +82-31-299-4957 > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu > Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Computer Science and Engineering Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --000000000000ca9e9e05a6fa6035 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi IPWAVE WG,
I am still working for the revision of t= he IPWAVE PS draft, but I need another week to finish the revision.
I was so busy with my other university works.
I will try to fi= nish the revision as soon as possible.

Thanks for = your patience and support.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:26 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
Hi Fred,
I will address those comments, too.
I am also prepa= ring a revision letter to show how to address each question and comment fro= m
the reviewers as follows:

Zeungil (Ben= ) Kim (Hyundai Motors)
Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC)
Yong-Joon Joe (LSware)
J= ung-Soo Park (ETRI)
Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University)
Nancy Cam-Win= get (Cisco)
Fred L. Templin (The Boeing Company)

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Paul

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:51 AM Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@bo= eing.com> wrote:

Hi Paul - I assume the comments I raised on = the list beginning 4/14/2020

will be addressed?

=C2=A0

Thanks - Fred

=C2=A0

From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:55 PM
To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>; CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <<= a href=3D"mailto:cjbc@it.uc3m.es" target=3D"_blank">cjbc@it.uc3m.es>= ; its@ietf.org
Cc: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com>; skku-iotlab-members <skku-iot= lab-members@googlegroups.com>; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networ= king-14.txt

=C2=A0

Hi IPWAVE WG,
I am still working for the revision with the reviewers.
Since there are many challenging questions and comments
along with my university work,
I need more time and I will be able to finish
the revision by the end of this May.

Thanks for your patience and support.

Best Regards,
Paul=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Hi IPWAVE WG,

I am working for the revision with the reviewers.=

I need more time and I will be able to finish early = next week.

I am sorry for the delay.

=C2=A0

Best Regards,

Paul=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:02 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeon= g <jaehoon.p= aul@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Russ, Carlos and IPWAVE WG,

I need more time to address the reviewers' comme= nts.

I will be able to post the revised draft early next = week.

=C2=A0

Thanks for your support and patience.<= /p>

=C2=A0

Best Regards,

Paul

=C2=A0

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:19 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeon= g <jaehoon.p= aul@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Russ and Carlos,

As you see, the following five people reviewed the I= PWAVE PS draft according to the advice of our AD, Suresh:

=C2=A0

Zeungil (Ben) Kim (Hyundai Motors)

Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC)

Yong-Joon Joe (LSware)

Jung-Soo Park (ETRI)

Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University)

=C2=A0

I will revise our IPWAVE PS draft with their comment= s by the end of this April.

With the revised draft, I believe you can do WGLC fo= r it.

=C2=A0

Thanks.

=C2=A0

Best Regards,

Paul

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

2020= =EB=85=84 3=EC=9B=94<= /span> 10=EC=9D=BC (<= span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=ED=99=94) =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 4:= 46, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>=EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:

Paul believes that he has addressed all comments in = revision:

=C2=A0

I think we need to let at least five reviewers..=C2= =A0 Could you do a review of this revision?=C2=A0 Please respond to the WG = mail list.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

=C2=A0 Russ

=C2=A0



On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:17 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

=C2=A0


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environmen= ts WG of the IETF.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Title =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular Enviro= nments (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Author =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: Jaehoon Paul Jeong (editor)
Filename =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehi= cular-networking-14.txt
Pages =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: 32
Date =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: 20= 20-03-09

Abstract:
=C2=A0=C2=A0This document discusses the problem statement and use cases of<= br> =C2=A0=C2=A0IPv6-based vehicular networking for Intelligent Transportation<= br> =C2=A0=C2=A0Systems (ITS).=C2=A0 The main scenarios of vehicular communicat= ions are
=C2=A0=C2=A0vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and<= br> =C2=A0=C2=A0vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications.=C2=A0 First, this d= ocument
=C2=A0=C2=A0explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking.=C2=A0 Ne= xt, it
=C2=A0=C2=A0makes a problem statement about key aspects in IPv6-based vehic= ular
=C2=A0=C2=A0networking, such as IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, Mobility Managemen= t, and
=C2=A0=C2=A0Security & Privacy.=C2=A0 For each key aspect, this documen= t specifies
=C2=A0=C2=A0requirements for IPv6-based vehicular networking.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipw= ave-vehicular-networking/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehi= cular-networking-14
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/dr= aft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-= ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-14


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp= .ietf.org/internet-drafts/


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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Software
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.= paul@gmail.com,=C2=A0pauljeong@skku.edu
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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Software
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: +82-31-299-4957
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Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php



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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Associate ProfessorDepartment of Software
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: +82-31-299-4= 957
Email: j= aehoon.paul@gmail.com,=C2=A0pauljeong@skku.edu
Personal = Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php
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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.= D.
Associate Professor
Department of Computer Science and Engineering=
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com,=C2=A0pauljeong@skku.edu
Personal Homepage: http://iotl= ab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php
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