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Hi IPWAVE WG,
Here is a new survey paper relevant to o= ur IPWAVE WG.

Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Yiwen (Chris) Shen, Tae (Tom) Oh, Sandra Cespedes, Nabil = Benamar, Michelle Wetterwald, and Jerome Haerri,=C2=A0"A comprehensiv= e survey on vehicular networks for smart roads: A focus on IP-based approac= hes",=C2=A0Elsevier Vehicular Communications, Vol. 29, June 2021= .


This paper= is the result of Draft for "ITS General Problem Area" adopted by= WG in

<= div>It surveys IP-based vehicular networking in terms of network architectu= re,=C2=A0
IP address autoconfiguration, mobility management, and = security & privacy
along with the standardization activities = of various SDOs (e.g., IEEE, IETF, ETSI, ISO,
and 3GPP).

We can move forward with this survey paper and our IPW= AVE PS draft,
which is waiting for the review result of our AD Er= ik Kline:

Thanks.
<= div>
Best Regards,
Paul
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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department Head
Department of Computer Science and Engine= ering
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: pauljeong@skku.edu,=C2=A0jaehoon.paul@gmail.com
Personal Homepage: http= ://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php
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Best Regards, Paul On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:39 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi IPWAVE WG, > Here is a new survey paper relevant to our IPWAVE WG. > > *Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong*, Yiwen (Chris) Shen, Tae (Tom) Oh, Sandra > Cespedes, Nabil Benamar, Michelle Wetterwald, and Jerome Haerri, "A > comprehensive survey on vehicular networks for smart roads: A focus on > IP-based approaches", > Elsevier > Vehicular Communications > , > Vol. 29, June 2021. > > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214209621000036 > > This paper is the result of Draft for "ITS General Problem Area" adopted > by WG in > https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ipwave/about/ > > It surveys IP-based vehicular networking in terms of network architecture, > IP address autoconfiguration, mobility management, and security & privacy > along with the standardization activities of various SDOs (e.g., IEEE, > IETF, ETSI, ISO, > and 3GPP). > > We can move forward with this survey paper and our IPWAVE PS draft, > which is waiting for the review result of our AD Erik Kline: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/ > > Thanks. > > Best Regards, > Paul > -- > =========================== > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Department Head > Department of Computer Science and Engineering > Sungkyunkwan University > Office: +82-31-299-4957 > Email: pauljeong@skku.edu, jaehoon.paul@gmail.com > Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > > -- =========================== Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department Head Department of Computer Science and Engineering Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: pauljeong@skku.edu, jaehoon.paul@gmail.com Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --000000000000bedb6b05ba706fa0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Erik,
When could you finish your review on our IPWA= VE PS draft and give our authors your feedback?

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19<= /a>

Thanks.

Best Rega= rds,
Paul

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:39 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul J= eong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi IPWAVE WG,
Here is a new survey paper relevant to our= IPWAVE WG.



This paper is the result of Draft= for "ITS General Problem Area" adopted by WG in

I= t surveys IP-based vehicular networking in terms of network architecture,= =C2=A0
IP address autoconfiguration, mobility management, and sec= urity & privacy
along with the standardization activities of = various SDOs (e.g., IEEE, IETF, ETSI, ISO,
and 3GPP).

We can move forward with this survey paper and our IPWAVE= PS draft,
which is waiting for the review result of our AD Erik = Kline:

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul
--=
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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.<= br>Associate Professor
Department Head
Department = of Computer Science and Engineering
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: += 82-31-299-4957
Email: pauljeong@skku.edu,=C2=A0jaehoon.paul@gmail.comPersonal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php=


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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.= D.
Associate Professor
Department Head
Departme= nt of Computer Science and Engineering
Sungkyunkwan University
Office= : +82-31-299-4957
Email: pauljeong@skku.edu,=C2=A0jaehoon.paul@gmail.com
Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php<= /a>
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I hope that you are doing well. Regards, Tae (Tom) Oh On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi IPWAVE WG, > Here is a new survey paper relevant to our IPWAVE WG. > > *Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong*, Yiwen (Chris) Shen, Tae (Tom) Oh, Sandra > Cespedes, Nabil Benamar, Michelle Wetterwald, and Jerome Haerri, "A > comprehensive survey on vehicular networks for smart roads: A focus on > IP-based approaches", > Elsevier > Vehicular Communications > , > Vol. 29, June 2021. > > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214209621000036 > > This paper is the result of Draft for "ITS General Problem Area" adopted > by WG in > https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ipwave/about/ > > It surveys IP-based vehicular networking in terms of network architecture, > IP address autoconfiguration, mobility management, and security & privacy > along with the standardization activities of various SDOs (e.g., IEEE, > IETF, ETSI, ISO, > and 3GPP). > > We can move forward with this survey paper and our IPWAVE PS draft, > which is waiting for the review result of our AD Erik Kline: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/ > > Thanks. > > Best Regards, > Paul > -- > =========================== > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Department Head > Department of Computer Science and Engineering > Sungkyunkwan University > Office: +82-31-299-4957 > Email: pauljeong@skku.edu, jaehoon.paul@gmail.com > Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > --00000000000038528605ba740778 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Prof. Jeong.=C2=A0 I hope that you are doing well.= =C2=A0

Regards,=C2=A0

Tae (Tom)= Oh

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote:
H= i IPWAVE WG,
Here is a new survey paper relevant to our IPWAVE WG.

Jaehoon (Pa= ul) Jeong, = Yiwen (Chris) Shen, Tae (Tom) Oh, Sandra Cespedes, Nabil Benamar, Michelle = Wetterwald, and Jerome Haerri,=C2=A0"A comprehensiv= e survey on vehicular networks for smart roads: A focus on IP-based approac= hes",=C2=A0Elsevier Vehicular Commu= nications, = Vol. 29, June 2021.


This paper is the result of Draft for "ITS G= eneral Problem Area" adopted by WG in

It surveys IP-bas= ed vehicular networking in terms of network architecture,=C2=A0
I= P address autoconfiguration, mobility management, and security & privac= y
along with the standardization activities of various SDOs (e.g.= , IEEE, IETF, ETSI, ISO,
and 3GPP).

= We can move forward with this survey paper and our IPWAVE PS draft,
which is waiting for the review result of our AD Erik Kline:
<= a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-netw= orking/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwa= ve-vehicular-networking/

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul
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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Associate Professo= r
Department Head
Department of Computer Science a= nd Engineering
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: +82-31-299-4957
Ema= il: pauljeong@skku.edu,=C2=A0jaehoon.paul@gmail.com
Personal Homepage: = http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php
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--00000000000038528605ba740778-- From nobody Fri Feb 12 02:51:34 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD8E3A155B for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 02:51:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.648 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.648 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XxnIt_poTdau for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 02:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 371E93A155A for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 02:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 11CApTUk042720 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 11:51:29 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C7A1208CEE for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 11:51:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.13]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8FB208CF0 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 11:51:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.14.14.90] ([10.14.14.90]) by muguet2-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 11CApSeU032252 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 11:51:29 +0100 To: IPWAVE WG From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 11:51:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] Risks for the future of OCB mode at 5.9GHz X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 10:51:34 -0000 I take advantage of a private message I received, in order to explain this in English, and to the public email list. I have some doubts about the future of OCB mode of WiFi. The recent re-allocation of spectrum by FCC in USA divides the space typically used for OCB mode of 802.11 into a space for C-V2X (a different mode than 802.11) and a space for WiFi. The C-V2X already ate the OCB mode at cca 5.8-5.9GHz, by allocation. The WiFi is highly likely to eat the OCB mode at cca 5.4-5.8GHz. The reason of this is that WiFi is always and will always be looking at increasing the bandwidth; that increase can be achieved by widening the bands. This is what WiFi 6E does when claiming to offer 4Gbit/s at 6GHz ('6' is a coincidence). In the past, what FCC did in USA at 5.9GHz was simply replicated in Europe and other parts of the world. Even if today much RSU deployment exists in Europe (refs available) that runs OCB at 5.9GHz, and VW Golf 8s send CAMs to each other, many indicators point that it might be that these will disappear. Such indicators are, for example, lack of OCB mode in smartphones, pushes from industry alliance 5GAA towards 5G-V2X, lack of FCC reply to IPv6-over-OCB comment, and other declarations. It is for these reasons that I tend to think the future of OCB mode of 802.11 at around 5.9GHz is probably at risk. Alex From nobody Mon Feb 15 03:37:28 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BADF3A11A7 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 03:37:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.177 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.177 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.972, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uMlj9sl2utF6 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 03:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42D9F3A11A5 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 03:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 11FBbMX8015524 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 12:37:22 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E574205CF2 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 12:37:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.13]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45325205CF4 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 12:37:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.14.10.240] ([10.14.10.240]) by muguet2-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 11FBbM1i020801 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 12:37:22 +0100 To: its@ietf.org References: From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <7799867a-7ce8-c38b-96f7-0ff03cb20bf0@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 12:37:21 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Risks for the future of OCB mode at 5.9GHz X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 11:37:27 -0000 A colleague pointed me to a video presentation of the problem of ITS-G5 vs C-V2X of January 21, 2021. The presentation is brief. It describes this DSRC-vs-5G to be a problem because there are two standards, too complex for deployers, and there is uncertainty for vehicle users. IMHO this uncertainty means : should I buy a Ford (C-V2X) or a VW (ITS-G5). The presenter gives his oppinion: probably C-V2X will win. Starting at around 21:02 (21min, 2 seconds) and lasts for about 2 minutes: https://www.real-wireless.com/predicting-2021-trends-connectivity-insight-from-real-wireless/ It is interesting to note how he compares the problem to the VHS vs Betacam (presumably 5G is more of VHS, and ITS-G5/DSRC more of Betacam). Certainly, in around 1995 one would no longer work on anything Betacam. But they were both overcome by DVD and Bluray later, and now by 8K. Also, the notion of direct communications in cellular systems (w/o base station) existed long before 5G's PC5: 3G tried it too but it did not work. On another hand, in 3G there were no chips doing direct comm, no spectrum, but in 5G there are. All in all, I am not sure how will this unfold. Possibly one way forward is to consider IP: IP-over-PC5, and CAM-over-IP. With IP tools at hand, the deployer would abstract from the DSRC-vs-PC5 problem. What do you think is a possible way forward in the DSRC-vs-PC5 problem? Alex Le 12/02/2021 à 11:51, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : > I take advantage of a private message I received, in order to explain > this in English, and to the public email list. > > I have some doubts about the future of OCB mode of WiFi. > > The recent re-allocation of spectrum by FCC in USA divides the space > typically used for OCB mode of 802.11 into a space for C-V2X (a > different mode than 802.11) and a space for WiFi. > > The C-V2X already ate the OCB mode at cca 5.8-5.9GHz, by allocation. > The WiFi is highly likely to eat the OCB mode at cca 5.4-5.8GHz. The > reason of this is that WiFi is always and will always be looking at > increasing the bandwidth; that increase can be achieved by widening > the bands. This is what WiFi 6E does when claiming to offer 4Gbit/s > at 6GHz ('6' is a coincidence). > > In the past, what FCC did in USA at 5.9GHz was simply replicated in > Europe and other parts of the world. Even if today much RSU > deployment exists in Europe (refs available) that runs OCB at > 5.9GHz, and VW Golf 8s send CAMs to each other, many indicators point > that it might be that these will disappear. Such indicators are, > for example, lack of OCB mode in smartphones, pushes from industry > alliance 5GAA towards 5G-V2X, lack of FCC reply to IPv6-over-OCB > comment, and other declarations. > > It is for these reasons that I tend to think the future of OCB mode > of 802.11 at around 5.9GHz is probably at risk. > > Alex > > _______________________________________________ its mailing list > its@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its From nobody Mon Feb 15 08:08:04 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CC73A0CE9 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 08:08:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ngor5qvOozm8 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 08:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pj1-x102f.google.com (mail-pj1-x102f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::102f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71E383A0C03 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 08:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pj1-x102f.google.com with SMTP id d2so4176832pjs.4 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 08:08:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LfWsVGtBJfiAw/ANyiAQOzNL5z2DbZCjBaPWACPVTlo=; b=SiROlwfVuWJqSJoAonhtnSHc5oIxtrs5mikDNodFrDR5j92CTkfGM5V6PxH3uckabG xVUsNlDi7BnQSYmXuslSt1VubmzZTWjX2ZpBE5x5iHPG7qCohIlA0K15qCGj1WyxZUc7 LCscVXsbJhvPkLvdTKEkILW6/Cr5790rbmoYzU5zqMF9foy8CjZosHikT6TSRAgbq0Aa EuKK/d1feNSUm01uQUkF0iw5FZ6dgM6ubPqhyp+MWZZbhep3dcPHwRxqZhESUyaz4sTb szUcVWNJzahzPRMj4lsNzwztKqzSL8pIH8cpK2AHA8erNCdUAMJr8BYmOD22vaLAAnhT tEkA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LfWsVGtBJfiAw/ANyiAQOzNL5z2DbZCjBaPWACPVTlo=; b=YhanGZDNYyyjI05IaMpVncT2adJSbhAN2xmBWqwCC8gb2oHgtLzHCa/pauhTJ/8O7g qYHAk6rCAtDrylO85LRxHYcMHyCLZTtDx9Dr64wB/xfJyuJ95taduxX57xPmET8KQCt2 xIj2en283glxwG/9GZuUF012/nY6tXBS6F0J/zMZdGoiDo1ERsQKF1WqVi8Fgp7STcsO BJ6UG/x4T+rPvBRStZzSZ/rBL0asE2M9di1ZyEp4mTPNTTK9ZsOjCkriOft6ir1Rw8H9 tsV3F7tc6unjRRP/F8Ckz9xBvy9MTKCktTbuqFXJNrr+EVlPljZkysA8yDWZrqO3sXd6 rpWA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530YWvHj8XmyfmOxDh+/YMSd3DIchscUm43lWA4vaqxqLC4yJ0Eg xdic3RBgQD6p5YnTkglCvX8w7HO6nzc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwXeBltweZxrUWPPAsnjI/znWOI6WKfMk6y573YowAiOOrtYjuzAbVQTa8QpLep6lMQiYoHyA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:b38b:: with SMTP id e11mr17235973pjr.214.1613405279765; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 08:07:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (c-73-241-197-249.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [73.241.197.249]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i67sm19556084pfe.19.2021.02.15.08.07.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 15 Feb 2021 08:07:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1613405277.18911.96.camel@gmail.com> From: Rex Buddenberg To: Alexandre Petrescu , its@ietf.org Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 08:07:57 -0800 In-Reply-To: <7799867a-7ce8-c38b-96f7-0ff03cb20bf0@gmail.com> References: <7799867a-7ce8-c38b-96f7-0ff03cb20bf0@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2 (3.18.5.2-1.fc23) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Risks for the future of OCB mode at 5.9GHz X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 16:08:03 -0000 The cellphone in my pocket (and probably yours) have both LTE and WiFi interfaces.  On Mon, 2021-02-15 at 12:37 +0100, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > A colleague pointed me to a video presentation of the problem of ITS- > G5 > vs C-V2X of January 21, 2021.  The presentation is brief.  It > describes > this DSRC-vs-5G to be a problem because there are two standards, too > complex for deployers, and there is uncertainty for vehicle > users.  IMHO > this uncertainty means : should I buy a Ford (C-V2X) or a VW (ITS- > G5). > The presenter gives his oppinion: probably C-V2X will win. > > Starting at around 21:02 (21min, 2 seconds) and lasts for about 2 > minutes: > > https://www.real-wireless.com/predicting-2021-trends-connectivity-ins > ight-from-real-wireless/ > > It is interesting to note how he compares the problem to the VHS vs > Betacam (presumably 5G is more of VHS, and ITS-G5/DSRC more of > Betacam). >   Certainly, in around 1995 one would no longer work on anything > Betacam. >   But they were both overcome by DVD and Bluray later, and now by 8K. > > Also, the notion of direct communications in cellular systems (w/o > base > station) existed long before 5G's PC5: 3G tried it too but it did not > work.  On another hand, in 3G there were no chips doing direct comm, > no > spectrum, but in 5G there are. > > All in all, I am not sure how will this unfold. > > Possibly one way forward is to consider IP: > IP-over-PC5, and CAM-over-IP. > > With IP tools at hand, the deployer would abstract from the DSRC-vs- > PC5 > problem. > > What do you think is a possible way forward in the DSRC-vs-PC5 > problem? > > Alex > > > Le 12/02/2021 à 11:51, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : > > > > I take advantage of a private message I received, in order to > > explain > > this in English, and to the public email list. > > > > I have some doubts about the future of OCB mode of WiFi. > > > > The recent re-allocation of spectrum by FCC in USA divides the > > space > >  typically used for OCB mode of 802.11 into a space for C-V2X (a  > > different mode than 802.11) and a space for WiFi. > > > > The C-V2X already ate the OCB mode at cca 5.8-5.9GHz, by > > allocation. > >  The WiFi is highly likely to eat the OCB mode at cca 5.4-5.8GHz. > > The > > reason of this is that WiFi is always and will always be looking at > > increasing the bandwidth; that increase can be achieved by widening > > the bands.  This is what WiFi 6E does when claiming to offer > > 4Gbit/s > > at 6GHz ('6' is a coincidence). > > > > In the past, what FCC did in USA at 5.9GHz was simply replicated > > in  > > Europe and other parts of the world.  Even if today much RSU  > > deployment exists in Europe (refs available) that runs OCB at > > 5.9GHz, and VW Golf 8s send CAMs to each other, many indicators > > point > > that it might be that these will disappear.  Such indicators are, > > for example, lack of OCB mode in smartphones, pushes from industry  > > alliance 5GAA towards 5G-V2X, lack of FCC reply to IPv6-over-OCB  > > comment, and other declarations. > > > > It is for these reasons that I tend to think the future of OCB > > mode  > > of 802.11 at around 5.9GHz is probably at risk. > > > > Alex > > > > _______________________________________________ its mailing list  > > its@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its From nobody Wed Feb 17 07:34:53 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE20D3A1AE1 for ; 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Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:34:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <159700346574.3847.5747250447145811268@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: From: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 00:34:10 +0900 Message-ID: To: Erik Kline Cc: Carlos Bernardos , Russ Housley , its@ietf.org, skku-iotlab-members , "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007b7b4d05bb89f58a" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 15:34:51 -0000 --0000000000007b7b4d05bb89f58a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Erik, Could you move our IPWAVE PS Draft forward? I have been waiting for your review for 143 days: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/ It seems to take a long time. Thanks. Best Regards, Paul On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 8:38 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Erik, > It seems like you are busy with processing other drafts. > BTW, this IPWAVE PS draft is the starting point to develop new protocols > or extensions of existing ones > for IPv6-based vehicular networking over DSRC or 5G-V2X for the sake of > electric vehicles, > semi-autonomous vehicles with ADAS (Advanced Driver Assistance Systems) or > autonomous vehicles. > > I hope you will be able to review this draft as soon as possible for the > IESG evaluation. > > Thanks. > > Best Regards, > Paul > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 7:18 AM Erik Kline wrote: > >> I'm still catching up [1]; I've definitely not lost track, though. >> >> If there's some timing issue with other industry or SDO groups, let me >> know. >> >> -ek >> >> [1] I've just cleared a document that went to Publication Requested in >> December of last year. There's another document in the queue that went to >> Pub Req'd in August of 2018. >> >> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 12:00 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < >> jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Russ and Carlos, >>> As you may see, there is no progress on our IPWAVE PS draft, which >>> was submitted to the IESG for RFC publication 1.5 months ago. >>> >>> Could you ask our AD to take care of this draft to move forward? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Paul >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 5:05 AM Russ Housley via Datatracker < >>> noreply@ietf.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Russ Housley has requested publication of >>>> draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19 as Informational on behalf of the >>>> IPWAVE working group. >>>> >>>> Please verify the document's state at >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> its mailing list >>>> its@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> =========================== >>> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >>> Associate Professor >>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering >>> Sungkyunkwan University >>> Office: +82-31-299-4957 >>> Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu >>> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >>> >>> >> > > -- > =========================== > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Department of Computer Science and Engineering > Sungkyunkwan University > Office: +82-31-299-4957 > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu > Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > > -- =========================== Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department Head Department of Computer Science and Engineering Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: pauljeong@skku.edu, jaehoon.paul@gmail.com Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --0000000000007b7b4d05bb89f58a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Erik,
Could you move our IPWAVE PS Draft forward?

I have been waiting for your review=C2=A0for 143 da= ys:

It seems to=C2=A0tak= e=C2=A0a long time.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul


On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at= 8:38 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Erik,
It seems = like you are busy with processing other drafts.
BTW, this IPWAVE = PS draft is the starting point to develop new protocols or extensions of ex= isting ones
for IPv6-based vehicular networking over DSRC or 5G-V= 2X for the sake of electric=C2=A0vehicles,=C2=A0
semi-autonomous = vehicles with ADAS (Advanced Driver Assistance Systems) or autonomous vehic= les.

I hope you will be able to review this draft = as soon as possible for the IESG evaluation.

Thank= s.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Sun, = Sep 13, 2020 at 7:18 AM Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
= I'm still catching up [1]; I've definitely not lost track,=C2=A0tho= ugh.

If there's some timing issue with oth= er industry or SDO groups, let me know.

-ek<= /div>

[1] I've just=C2=A0cleared a document that wen= t to Publication Requested in December of last year.=C2=A0 There's anot= her document in the queue that went to Pub Req'd in August of 2018.

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 12:00 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com= > wrote:
=
Hi Russ and Carlos,
As you may see, there is no progre= ss on our IPWAVE PS draft,=C2=A0which
was submitted to the IESG f= or RFC publication 1.5 months ago.

Could you ask o= ur AD to take care of this draft to move forward?

= Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul
On Mon, = Aug 10, 2020 at 5:05 AM Russ Housley via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
Russ Housley has reques= ted publication of draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19 as Information= al on behalf of the IPWAVE working group.

Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-= networking/


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