From nobody Fri Mar 4 15:52:53 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jmap@ietf.org Delivered-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6FC3A0A2B; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:52:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: jmap@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.46.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jmap@ietf.org Message-ID: <164643797110.28282.15111183923691305699@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 15:52:51 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Jmap] I-D Action: draft-ietf-jmap-blob-09.txt X-BeenThere: jmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: JSON Message Access Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 23:52:51 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the JSON Mail Access Protocol WG of the IETF. Title : JMAP Blob management extension Author : Bron Gondwana Filename : draft-ietf-jmap-blob-09.txt Pages : 28 Date : 2022-03-04 Abstract: The JMAP base protocol (RFC8620) provides the ability to upload and download arbitrary binary data via HTTP POST and GET on defined endpoint. This binary data is called a "blob". This extension adds additional ways to create and access blobs, by making inline method calls within a standard JMAP request. This extension also adds a reverse lookup mechanism to discover where blobs are referenced within other data types. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-blob/ There is also an HTML version available at: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-jmap-blob-09.html A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-jmap-blob-09 Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts From nobody Fri Mar 4 15:57:46 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB6A3A0A73 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:57:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fastmailteam.com header.b=IzGDTBPd; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=XZ+WfAKy Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17yMhjv3XuSF for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D5F33A0A69 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6D75C0118 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 18:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap43 ([10.202.2.93]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 04 Mar 2022 18:57:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= fastmailteam.com; h=cc:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm2; bh=bR15lciU0pk3dD 48Ols7jD6DA41IFu0vEVonH5VKelk=; b=IzGDTBPdGMLGIsMCEZcONns/xVnWMd qrlWbv51qc6QvHZ7dXqyKOnDH16AXs68GIgHKcHkBpeq26h30F8SgdlB/0TDkbOk W0/Zl1wLbqPOk5ugCnb0OxKfshpD0BCyX1sqvp6s5eGJ8bx6A4/FfQv6u3SKwhBI jMqv8jr4CpDnCobJGoTlsL4zMEMBIhqIup4YIWBICqvA1eKGKDrxjjgWwad7ePCT dqbBcGz01GPWX76cGWrJAsNAtrEftLcFc66MwfaT8lPM97h003XG0GPPSSIsIMGs LzUlMSdtoLfDhR+Cc3vo0pSKQiEHcbS+UUr1Vem16KpCddqlXTQRpEgw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=bR15lciU0pk3dD48O ls7jD6DA41IFu0vEVonH5VKelk=; b=XZ+WfAKyR+IbmJ5r/bOryLbwRGmgqiWG3 0Z4qyMxZJeVkVkk9minRsGCpYmfy8O70iLQmfZkofogFETmZ6JwjxG+FSpOSgpcc 5wjSRhfIiu/hTiCEesJCq3CWZ/xu1pWtp7HqNkPCcCGMnNuvNlp1Vg9yQ+9aX+Za +ghyEQGWt7n91O7sRf+3BBT9hj/myArB/K/V9kqXrx4xQLboRuVOGrpNTpqjzs51 N7LVqywZx4IK/+tLENsgIsl8iaLQxdHSXno6rAencDJ0ycHfcjvRwuWmXYO1SIS/ gs9KX6VqLfDs8Y/7WzgBpejbK7I/yU2QNBL5kxDeb7FHzcPCdB7LA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvvddruddtledgudefucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtsegrtd erreerredtnecuhfhrohhmpedfuehrohhnucfiohhnugifrghnrgdfuceosghrohhnghes fhgrshhtmhgrihhlthgvrghmrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeffveefiefgje evteehheelgeetleetveeguedthfehgffhtdejhfdvhefhtdekgfenucffohhmrghinhep ihgvthhfrdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilh hfrhhomhepsghrohhnghesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlthgvrghmrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1F13BAC0E9C; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 18:57:38 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-4849-gd25ea29a5a-fm-20220301.001-gd25ea29a Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <4bff89db-877d-4716-af28-aaa62b1b6617@dogfood.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <164643797110.28282.15111183923691305699@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <164643797110.28282.15111183923691305699@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 15:57:17 -0800 From: "Bron Gondwana" To: jmap@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=19abc6ea0dd74341a28590ea5a03fcc5 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jmap] I-D Action: draft-ietf-jmap-blob-09.txt X-BeenThere: jmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: JSON Message Access Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 23:57:44 -0000 --19abc6ea0dd74341a28590ea5a03fcc5 Content-Type: text/plain Hi all, sorry for the delay in getting this revision out! I've wordsmithed the introduction some more, and also rewritten the "Blob/set" to be "Blob/upload" based on feedback from Neil that it was different enough from a standard Foo/set that using a different verb made more sense. I also decided to normalise the `catenate` behaviour, such that we now always take an array of zero or more `data` items, which may be data:asText, data:asBase64, a blob source, or in future some other extension for finding data. And I trimmed the requirement that you check BOTH the capability for this and the maxUploadSize before uploading. If the server wants to restrict size for Blob/upload, it can tell you in one place. This document is already in WGLC, this is based on WGLC feedback. Given that it's a significant change, I'd love any updated feedback before IETF113 so I can ask Jim to ship it then if others are happy :) I also plan to update the Cyrus IMAP implementation and Fastmail's use of it in the intervening time to make sure it's all nice to work with. Cheers, Bron. On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, at 15:52, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the JSON Mail Access Protocol WG of the IETF. > > Title : JMAP Blob management extension > Author : Bron Gondwana > Filename : draft-ietf-jmap-blob-09.txt > Pages : 28 > Date : 2022-03-04 > > Abstract: > The JMAP base protocol (RFC8620) provides the ability to upload and > download arbitrary binary data via HTTP POST and GET on defined > endpoint. This binary data is called a "blob". > > This extension adds additional ways to create and access blobs, by > making inline method calls within a standard JMAP request. > > This extension also adds a reverse lookup mechanism to discover where > blobs are referenced within other data types. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-blob/ > > There is also an HTML version available at: > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-jmap-blob-09.html > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-jmap-blob-09 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts > > > _______________________________________________ > Jmap mailing list > Jmap@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jmap > -- Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd brong@fastmailteam.com --19abc6ea0dd74341a28590ea5a03fcc5 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all, sorry for the delay in getting this revision out!&= nbsp; I've wordsmithed the introduction some more, and also rewritten th= e "Blob/set" to be "Blob/upload" based on feedback from Neil that it was= different enough from a standard Foo/set that using a different verb ma= de more sense.

I also decided to normalise the `catenate`= behaviour, such that we now always take an array of zero or more `data`= items, which may be data:asText, data:asBase64, a blob source, or in fu= ture some other extension for finding data.

And I trimmed= the requirement that you check BOTH the capability for this and the max= UploadSize before uploading.  If the server wants to restrict size = for Blob/upload, it can tell you in one place.

This docum= ent is already in WGLC, this is based on WGLC feedback. Given that it's = a significant change, I'd love any updated feedback before IETF113 so I = can ask Jim to ship it then if others are happy :)  I also plan to = update the Cyrus IMAP implementation and Fastmail's use of it in the int= ervening time to make sure it's all nice to work with.

Ch= eers,

Bron.

On Fri, Mar 4, = 2022, at 15:52, interne= t-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line In= ternet-Drafts directories.
Th= is draft is a work item of the JSON Mail Access Protocol WG of the IETF.=

        Title &n= bsp;         : JMAP Blob managem= ent extension
  &nb= sp;     Author      &n= bsp;   : Bron Gondwana
Filename        : draft-ietf-jmap= -blob-09.txt
Pages  = ;         : 28
Date       =      : 2022-03-04

Abstract:
=
   The JMAP base protocol (R= FC8620) provides the ability to upload and
   download arbitrary binary data via HTTP POST = and GET on defined
 &nbs= p; endpoint.  This binary data is called a "blob".

&= nbsp;  This extension adds additional ways to create and access blo= bs, by
   making in= line method calls within a standard JMAP request.

 &= nbsp; This extension also adds a reverse lookup mechanism to discover wh= ere
   blobs are re= ferenced within other data types.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:=
There is also an HTML version a= vailable at:

A diff = from the previous version is available at:


Interne= t-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts<= br>


_____________= __________________________________
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Sorry for the late notice, the charter only just went through! Mario/Robert - if you could upload a new draft with the name `draft-ietf-calext-jscontact`, ideally before the draft cutoff this Sunday! that would be great. Ditto the mapping document. Further discussion will happen on the calsify@ietf.org list. Either way, we'll put the work on the CALEXT agenda regardless of what the drafts are called, so please come to that session if you're interested. It's at 10am on Tuesday morning, Vienna time. Thanks in advance for your flexibility as we fiddle around where work happens :) Cheers, Bron (on behalf of the JMAP and CALEXT chairs) -- Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd brong@fastmailteam.com --d5320097c4e245c89a1d9629ea51374d Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi JMAP and CALEXT members,

The CALEXT rech= arter has just gone through, and it brings the JSContact format firmly w= ithin the scope of CALEXT, so we're going to move the remaining work ove= r to the other working group.

Sorry for the late notice, the charter only just went through!

Mario/Robe= rt - if you could upload a new draft with the name dra= ft-ietf-calext-jscontact, ideally before the draft cutoff this Su= nday! that would be great.  Ditto the mapping document.  Furth= er discussion will happen on the cal= sify@ietf.org list.

<= /div>
Either way, we'll put the work on= the CALEXT agenda regardless of what the drafts are called, so please c= ome to that session if you're interested. It's at 10am on Tuesday mornin= g, Vienna time.

Thanks in advance for your flexibility as= we fiddle around where work happens :)

Cheers,
=

Bron (on behalf of the JMAP and CALEXT chairs)

--
  Bron Gondwana, CE= O, Fastmail Pty Ltd
  brong@fastm= ailteam.com


--d5320097c4e245c89a1d9629ea51374d-- From nobody Mon Mar 7 08:22:52 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jmap@ietf.org Delivered-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703113A0D40; Mon, 7 Mar 2022 08:22:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: jmap@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.46.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jmap@ietf.org Message-ID: <164667016340.25313.7882177718484676887@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2022 08:22:43 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Jmap] I-D Action: draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.txt X-BeenThere: jmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: JSON Message Access Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2022 16:22:44 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the JSON Mail Access Protocol WG of the IETF. Title : JMAP for Tasks Authors : Joris Baum Hans-Joerg Filename : draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2022-03-07 Abstract: This document specifies a data model for synchronizing task data with a server using JMAP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-tasks/ There is also an HTML version available at: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.html A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03 Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts From nobody Mon Mar 7 08:35:56 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B673A1015 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2022 08:35:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7cHsPPS1Zu-O for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2022 08:35:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.audriga.com (mail.audriga.com [176.221.42.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EF083A13E9 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2022 08:33:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.audriga.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8707FA156 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2022 17:33:55 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.audriga.com Received: from mail.audriga.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.audriga.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PAC03ST9K0mk for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2022 17:33:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.134] (ip-046-223-163-066.um13.pools.vodafone-ip.de [46.223.163.66]) (Authenticated sender: joris@audriga.com) by mail.audriga.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07385A08B for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2022 17:33:53 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------rsUbzuJfaMMPgO3h8iP42HKk" Message-ID: <707539cf-3bbf-9f9c-ad8e-6cb5a33f1877@audriga.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 17:33:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.6.1 Content-Language: en-US To: jmap@ietf.org References: <164667016340.25313.7882177718484676887@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Joris Baum In-Reply-To: <164667016340.25313.7882177718484676887@ietfa.amsl.com> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jmap] I-D Action: draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.txt X-BeenThere: jmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: JSON Message Access Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2022 16:35:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------rsUbzuJfaMMPgO3h8iP42HKk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I just pushed a new version. I mainly changed a few properties of the Task object as a first result of the JMAP Tasks Survey [1]. I tried to focus on obvious extensions for now: * Adds a source property - a String with values like "Email" or "Web App" * Adds an estimatedWork property - similar to estimatedDuration * Adds an impact property - a String with values like "major" or "block" * Extends the progress property with more values (deferred, resolved, needs-feedback and confirmed) and adds some mapping recommendations. Regards, Joris [1] https://gist.github.com/jaudriga/cd323fa75397c76b1dd30861ef590302 On 07.03.22 17:22, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the JSON Mail Access Protocol WG of the IETF. > > Title : JMAP for Tasks > Authors : Joris Baum > Hans-Joerg > Filename : draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.txt > Pages : 19 > Date : 2022-03-07 > > Abstract: > This document specifies a data model for synchronizing task data with > a server using JMAP. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-tasks/ > > There is also an HTML version available at: > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.html > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts > > > _______________________________________________ > Jmap mailing list > Jmap@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jmap -- Joris Baum Tel: +49 721 170293 16 Fax: +49 721 170293 179 http://www.audriga.com |http://www.twitter.com/audriga -------------------------------------------------------------------------- audriga GmbH | Durlacher Allee 47 | 76131 Karlsruhe Sitz der Gesellschaft: Karlsruhe - Amtsgericht Mannheim - HRB 713034 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Frank Dengler, Dr.-Ing. 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Hi,

I just pushed a new version. I mainly changed a few properties of the Task object as a first result of the JMAP Tasks Survey [1]. I tried to focus on obvious extensions for now:

  • Adds a source property - a String with values like "Email" or "Web App"
  • Adds an estimatedWork property - similar to estimatedDuration
  • Adds an impact property - a String with values like "major" or "block"
  • Extends the progress property with more values (deferred, resolved, needs-feedback and confirmed) and adds some mapping recommendations.

Regards,

Joris


[1] https://gist.github.com/jaudriga/cd323fa75397c76b1dd30861ef590302

On 07.03.22 17:22, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the JSON Mail Access Protocol WG of the IETF.

        Title           : JMAP for Tasks
        Authors         : Joris Baum
                          Hans-Joerg
	Filename        : draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.txt
	Pages           : 19
	Date            : 2022-03-07

Abstract:
   This document specifies a data model for synchronizing task data with
   a server using JMAP.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-tasks/

There is also an HTML version available at:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.html

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03


Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts


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--------------rsUbzuJfaMMPgO3h8iP42HKk-- From nobody Tue Mar 15 16:51:59 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAC43A0D98 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2022 16:51:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.108 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.108 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=bluepopcorn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hv0umjFNTFE3 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2022 16:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from v2.bluepopcorn.net (v2.bluepopcorn.net [IPv6:2607:f2f8:a994::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 377603A0D96 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2022 16:51:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bluepopcorn.net; s=supersize; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Sn9q23tDUojlcAEreiYrmRsZWXjJSyNwOIKFhscOnHY=; b=YVxrH8FkVRxVEkDm2M3PRN1Qzo ctRg01OFHKpp89VOCYRD6kV7s68Be29/Pcc0QqZ5bbpRe4BommobUGZANayciN4wDildis55U3NW5 Ls53g+kB9q3qxDfAfQHAhp0attLCua5q3WnGML+u/iInZK9g7KVdMXmSD/J9s+phObYk=; Received: from [2601:647:4400:1261:6187:7ced:32b0:ca1c] (helo=[10.10.20.145]) by v2.bluepopcorn.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nUGxB-0000bx-3J; Tue, 15 Mar 2022 16:51:49 -0700 From: Jim Fenton To: Bron Gondwana Cc: IETF JMAP Mailing List Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 16:51:48 -0700 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5852) Message-ID: <51EC5BC8-8734-497A-B22C-C806E936E702@bluepopcorn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_MailMate_AD804076-50A7-4EB6-98AC-3CE4FF1298EA_=" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [Jmap] Review of draft-ietf-jmap-blob-09 X-BeenThere: jmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: JSON Message Access Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 23:51:58 -0000 --=_MailMate_AD804076-50A7-4EB6-98AC-3CE4FF1298EA_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I went through jmap-blob-09 today and it looks like you have addressed nearly all of my comments on -07; thanks! A couple of residual or new items: Abstract: (RFC8620) -> [RFC8620] The new draft seems to avoid the use of ‘catenate’ that was used extensively in -07. Good, because at least for me, ‘catenate’ is rarely used (while ‘concatenate’ is common); you had me running for the dictionary. But there are a couple of lingering uses that are probably not intended: * Section 4.1, 5th paragraph from end, “…the catenate itself is invalid…” * Section 4.1, penultimate paragraph, “…catenate sources might be extended…” Section 5, last paragraph, chosen DataSources -> chosen data sources You might also want to run this through idnits; it found a few other things. -Jim --=_MailMate_AD804076-50A7-4EB6-98AC-3CE4FF1298EA_= Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I went through jmap-blob-09 today and it looks like you h= ave addressed nearly all of my comments on -07; thanks!

A couple of residual or new items:

Abstract: (RFC8620) -> [RFC8620]

The new draft seems to avoid the use of =E2=80=98catenate= =E2=80=99 that was used extensively in -07. Good, because at least for me= , =E2=80=98catenate=E2=80=99 is rarely used (while =E2=80=98concatenate=E2= =80=99 is common); you had me running for the dictionary. But there are a= couple of lingering uses that are probably not intended:

  • Section 4.1, 5th paragraph from end, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6the catenate i= tself is invalid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D
  • Section 4.1, penultimate paragraph, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6catenate source= s might be extended=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D

Section 5, last paragraph, chosen DataSources -> chose= n data sources

You might also want to run this through idnits; it found = a few other things.

-Jim

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I'll do that later tonight.. I'll see if I can sneak in a -10 be= fore the session, though my slides from obviously address both -09 and t= he fixes since. Also gonna implement just to make sure it makes sense. Bron. On Tue, Mar 15, 2022, at 19:51, Jim Fenton wrote: > I went through jmap-blob-09 today and it looks like you have addressed= nearly all of my comments on -07; thanks! >=20 > A couple of residual or new items: >=20 > Abstract: (RFC8620) -> [RFC8620] >=20 > The new draft seems to avoid the use of =E2=80=98catenate=E2=80=99 tha= t was used extensively in -07. Good, because at least for me, =E2=80=98c= atenate=E2=80=99 is rarely used (while =E2=80=98concatenate=E2=80=99 is = common); you had me running for the dictionary. But there are a couple o= f lingering uses that are probably not intended: >=20 > * Section 4.1, 5th paragraph from end, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6the catenate= itself is invalid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D > * Section 4.1, penultimate paragraph, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6catenate sour= ces might be extended=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D > Section 5, last paragraph, chosen DataSources -> chosen data sources >=20 > You might also want to run this through idnits; it found a few other t= hings. >=20 > -Jim >=20 -- Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd brong@fastmailteam.com --d9c38fdbea69468484438a6b7e944416 Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks! I'll do that later tonight.. I'll see if I ca= n sneak in a -10 before the session, though my slides from obviously add= ress both -09 and the fixes since. Also gonna implement just to make sur= e it makes sense.

<= div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Bron.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022, at 19:51, Jim Fenton wrote:

I went through jmap-blob-09 today and it looks li= ke you have addressed nearly all of my comments on -07; thanks!

<= p dir=3D"auto">A couple of residual or new items:

Abstract: (RFC8620) -> [RFC8620]

The new draf= t seems to avoid the use of =E2=80=98catenate=E2=80=99 that was used ext= ensively in -07. Good, because at least for me, =E2=80=98catenate=E2=80=99= is rarely used (while =E2=80=98concatenate=E2=80=99 is common); you had= me running for the dictionary. But there are a couple of lingering uses= that are probably not intended:

  • Section 4.1, 5th paragra= ph from end, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6the catenate itself is invalid=E2=80=A6=E2= =80=9D
  • Section 4.1, penultimate paragraph, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6= catenate sources might be extended=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D

Section 5, last paragraph, chosen DataSources -> chosen dat= a sources

You might also want to run this through= idnits; it found a few other things.

-Jim


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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Got it. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 19:11, Bron Gondwana w= rote: #yiv8960052730 p.yiv8960052730MsoNormal, #yiv8960052730 p.yiv8960052730MsoN= oSpacing{margin:0;}#yiv8960052730 p.yiv8960052730MsoNormal, #yiv8960052730 = p.yiv8960052730MsoNoSpacing{margin:0;}Thanks! I'll do that later tonight.. = I'll see if I can sneak in a -10 before the session, though my slides from = obviously address both -09 and the fixes since. Also gonna implement just t= o make sure it makes sense. Bron. On Tue, Mar 15, 2022, at 19:51, Jim Fenton wrote: I went through jmap-blob-09 today and it looks like you have addressed near= ly all of my comments on -07; thanks! A couple of residual or new items: Abstract: (RFC8620) -> [RFC8620] The new draft seems to avoid the use of =E2=80=98catenate=E2=80=99 that was= used extensively in -07. Good, because at least for me, =E2=80=98catenate= =E2=80=99 is rarely used (while =E2=80=98concatenate=E2=80=99 is common); y= ou had me running for the dictionary. But there are a couple of lingering u= ses that are probably not intended: =20 - Section 4.1, 5th paragraph from end, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6the catenate it= self is invalid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D =20 - Section 4.1, penultimate paragraph, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6catenate sources= might be extended=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D =20 Section 5, last paragraph, chosen DataSources -> chosen data sources You might also want to run this through idnits; it found a few other things= . -Jim -- =C2=A0 Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd =C2=A0 brong@fastmailteam.com _______________________________________________ Jmap mailing list Jmap@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jmap ------=_Part_3082096_230500878.1647435138129 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Got it.


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On Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 19:11, Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.co= m> wrote:

Thanks! I= 'll do that later tonight.. I'll see if I can sneak in a -10 before the ses= sion, though my slides from obviously address both -09 and the fixes since.= Also gonna implement just to make sure it makes sense.
<= /div>

Bron.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022, at 19:51, Jim Fenton wrote:

I went through jmap-blob-09 = today and it looks like you have addressed nearly all of my comments on -07= ; thanks!

A couple of residual or new items:

Abstract: (RFC8620) -> [RFC8620]
<= /p>

The new draft seems to avoid the use of =E2=80=98catenate=E2=80=99 th= at was used extensively in -07. Good, because at least for me, =E2=80=98cat= enate=E2=80=99 is rarely used (while =E2=80=98concatenate=E2=80=99 is commo= n); you had me running for the dictionary. But there are a couple of linger= ing uses that are probably not intended:

  • Sect= ion 4.1, 5th paragraph from end, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6the catenate itself is i= nvalid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D
  • Section 4.1, penultimat= e paragraph, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6catenate sources might be extended=E2=80=A6= =E2=80=9D

Section 5, last paragraph, chosen = DataSources -> chosen data sources

You might al= so want to run this through idnits; it found a few other things.

-Jim


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Please replace those with straight textual mentions of = the documents in question. > The new draft seems to avoid the use of =E2=80=98catenate=E2=80=99 tha= t was used extensively in -07. Good, because at least for me, =E2=80=98c= atenate=E2=80=99 is rarely used (while =E2=80=98concatenate=E2=80=99 is = common); you had me running for the dictionary. But there are a couple o= f lingering uses that are probably not intended: >=20 > * Section 4.1, 5th paragraph from end, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6the catenate= itself is invalid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D > * Section 4.1, penultimate paragraph, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6catenate sour= ces might be extended=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D This is fixed. Thanks for noticing them. > Section 5, last paragraph, chosen DataSources -> chosen data sources >=20 Yep, fair - DataSource is the object, but in that context it should just= be words rather than the object definition. > You might also want to run this through idnits; it found a few other t= hings. >=20 The main thing was long lines for the registry tables. Was there anythi= ng else that isn't an artifact of the parser assuming square brackets in= JMAP object syntax are references? Bron. -- Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd brong@fastmailteam.com --a8f00b1998ae4abfbd4efd08e2d9b9b4 Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022, at 00:51, Jim Fenton wrote:
=

I went through jmap-blob-09 today and it looks like you = have addressed nearly all of my comments on -07; thanks!

A couple of residual or new items:

Abstrac= t: (RFC8620) -> [RFC8620]


If I do= this, idnits complains:

= 
  ** The abstract seems to contain references ([RFC8620]), wh=
ich it
     shouldn't.  Please replace those with straight textual mentions of =
the
     documents in question.

The new draft seems to avoid the use of =E2=80=98= catenate=E2=80=99 that was used extensively in -07. Good, because at lea= st for me, =E2=80=98catenate=E2=80=99 is rarely used (while =E2=80=98con= catenate=E2=80=99 is common); you had me running for the dictionary. But= there are a couple of lingering uses that are probably not intended:

  • Section 4.1, 5th paragraph from end, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6the = catenate itself is invalid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D
  • Section 4.1, pe= nultimate paragraph, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6catenate sources might be extende= d=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D

This is = fixed.  Thanks for noticing them.

Section 5, last paragraph, chosen Dat= aSources -> chosen data sources


Yep, fair - DataSource is the object, but in that context it should jus= t be words rather than the object definition.

You might also want to run thi= s through idnits; it found a few other things.

The main thing was long l= ines for the registry tables.  Was there anything else that isn't a= n artifact of the parser assuming square brackets in JMAP object syntax = are references?

Bron.

--
  Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty L= td
  brong@fastmailteam.com


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Hi authors / speakers at the JMAP/EXTRA session at IETF113= .

Can you= please either email me your slides or upload them to https://datatracker.ietf= .org/meeting/113/session/jmap so they're in the datatracker and avai= lable in meetecho before the meeitng.  It's much easier if everythi= ng is in the system before the session.

Thanks,
=

Bron.


--
  Bron Gondwana, C= EO, Fastmail Pty Ltd
  brong@fast= mailteam.com


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Sun, 20 Mar 2022 08:05:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-4907-g25ce6f34a9-fm-20220311.001-g25ce6f34 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3cc0ce80-84bd-4c1c-be4f-409245cc7fca@dogfood.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <164777493229.16553.5021166573806192652@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <164777493229.16553.5021166573806192652@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 13:05:28 +0100 From: "Bron Gondwana" To: jmap@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=9b4e84b041d8498cbfab2e7d408f970a Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jmap] I-D Action: draft-ietf-jmap-blob-10.txt X-BeenThere: jmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: JSON Message Access Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 12:05:56 -0000 --9b4e84b041d8498cbfab2e7d408f970a Content-Type: text/plain This is almost identical to version -09, correcting only a couple of things that Jim noticed - inconsistent naming and failure to remove all 'catenate' text. I'll be presenting slides based on either version, since the substantial changes were all in -09. Bron. On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, at 12:15, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the JSON Mail Access Protocol WG of the IETF. > > Title : JMAP Blob management extension > Author : Bron Gondwana > Filename : draft-ietf-jmap-blob-10.txt > Pages : 28 > Date : 2022-03-20 > > Abstract: > The JMAP base protocol (RFC8620) provides the ability to upload and > download arbitrary binary data via HTTP POST and GET on defined > endpoint. This binary data is called a "blob". > > This extension adds additional ways to create and access blobs, by > making inline method calls within a standard JMAP request. > > This extension also adds a reverse lookup mechanism to discover where > blobs are referenced within other data types. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-blob/ > > There is also an HTML version available at: > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-jmap-blob-10.html > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-jmap-blob-10 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts > > > _______________________________________________ > Jmap mailing list > Jmap@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jmap > -- Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd brong@fastmailteam.com --9b4e84b041d8498cbfab2e7d408f970a Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is almost identical to version -09, correcting only a= couple of things that Jim noticed - inconsistent naming and failure to = remove all 'catenate' text.
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I'll be presenting slides bas= ed on either version, since the substantial changes were all in -09.
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Bron.

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A New Internet-Draft is available= from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the JSON Mail Access Prot= ocol WG of the IETF.

      =   Title          = : JMAP Blob management extension
        Author   =        : Bron Gondwana
Filename      &nbs= p; : draft-ietf-jmap-blob-10.txt
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Date   &nbs= p;        : 2022-03-20

Abstract:
   The J= MAP base protocol (RFC8620) provides the ability to upload and
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   This extension adds additional ways to c= reate and access blobs, by
&n= bsp;  making inline method calls within a standard JMAP request.

   This extension also adds a reverse lookup mech= anism to discover where
 = ;  blobs are referenced within other data types.

The IETF datatracker status pag= e for this draft is:

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--9b4e84b041d8498cbfab2e7d408f970a-- From nobody Sun Mar 20 12:17:49 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4D63A0A50 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 12:16:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.908 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.908 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JA-3lzzNaC86 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 12:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.audriga.com (mail.audriga.com [176.221.42.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB99A3A09CC for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 12:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.audriga.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A39A156 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 20:16:42 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.audriga.com Received: from mail.audriga.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.audriga.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KjTRdfcxA6qx for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 20:16:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [31.133.136.205] (dhcp-88cd.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.136.205]) (Authenticated sender: joris@audriga.com) by mail.audriga.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF6FDA0B6 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 20:16:39 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------s2mj8Bpmkk21s77zEIID7KOa" Message-ID: <9d83b6a5-b18c-3171-dbbc-8edfa68263bd@audriga.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 20:16:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.7.0 Content-Language: en-US To: jmap@ietf.org References: <164667016340.25313.7882177718484676887@ietfa.amsl.com> <707539cf-3bbf-9f9c-ad8e-6cb5a33f1877@audriga.com> From: Joris Baum In-Reply-To: <707539cf-3bbf-9f9c-ad8e-6cb5a33f1877@audriga.com> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jmap] I-D Action: draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.txt X-BeenThere: jmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: JSON Message Access Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 19:16:59 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------s2mj8Bpmkk21s77zEIID7KOa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, there are some property extensions that probably deserve some further discussion. I just wanted to share them on this mailing list before presenting them at the IETF: * Some systems have a property that displays when an attachment was uploaded. AFAIK, there is no such a property for binary data within JMAP. We could add something like "created" to the JMAP Blob Management Extension? * Keywords are sometimes connected to a color. JMAP is currently unable to expose that information, and simply supports "String[]" for keywords. A new "coloredKeywords" property could be added with an own object with "color" and "word" in JMAP for Tasks. Regards, Joris On 07.03.22 17:33, Joris Baum wrote: > Hi, > > I just pushed a new version. I mainly changed a few properties of the > Task object as a first result of the JMAP Tasks Survey [1]. I tried to > focus on obvious extensions for now: > > * Adds a source property - a String with values like "Email" or "Web > App" > * Adds an estimatedWork property - similar to estimatedDuration > * Adds an impact property - a String with values like "major" or "block" > * Extends the progress property with more values (deferred, > resolved, needs-feedback and confirmed) and adds some mapping > recommendations. > > Regards, > > Joris > > > [1] https://gist.github.com/jaudriga/cd323fa75397c76b1dd30861ef590302 > > On 07.03.22 17:22, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >> This draft is a work item of the JSON Mail Access Protocol WG of the IETF. >> >> Title : JMAP for Tasks >> Authors : Joris Baum >> Hans-Joerg >> Filename : draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.txt >> Pages : 19 >> Date : 2022-03-07 >> >> Abstract: >> This document specifies a data model for synchronizing task data with >> a server using JMAP. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-tasks/ >> >> There is also an HTML version available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.html >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03 >> >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jmap mailing list >> Jmap@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jmap > -- > Joris Baum > Tel: +49 721 170293 16 > Fax: +49 721 170293 179 > > http://www.audriga.com |http://www.twitter.com/audriga > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > audriga GmbH | Durlacher Allee 47 | 76131 Karlsruhe > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Karlsruhe - Amtsgericht Mannheim - HRB 713034 > Geschäftsführer: Dr. Frank Dengler, Dr.-Ing. Hans-Jörg Happel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Jmap mailing list > Jmap@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jmap -- Joris Baum Tel: +49 721 170293 16 Fax: +49 721 170293 179 http://www.audriga.com |http://www.twitter.com/audriga -------------------------------------------------------------------------- audriga GmbH | Alter Schlachthof 57 | 76137 Karlsruhe Sitz der Gesellschaft: Karlsruhe - Amtsgericht Mannheim - HRB 713034 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Frank Dengler, Dr.-Ing. Hans-Jörg Happel -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------s2mj8Bpmkk21s77zEIID7KOa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi,

there are some property extensions that probably deserve some further discussion. I just wanted to share them on this mailing list before presenting them at the IETF:

  • Some systems have a property that displays when an attachment was uploaded. AFAIK, there is no such a property for binary data within JMAP. We could add something like "created" to the JMAP Blob Management Extension?
  • Keywords are sometimes connected to a color. JMAP is currently unable to expose that information, and simply supports "String[]" for keywords. A new "coloredKeywords" property could be added with an own object with "color" and "word" in JMAP for Tasks.

Regards,

Joris


On 07.03.22 17:33, Joris Baum wrote:

Hi,

I just pushed a new version. I mainly changed a few properties of the Task object as a first result of the JMAP Tasks Survey [1]. I tried to focus on obvious extensions for now:

  • Adds a source property - a String with values like "Email" or "Web App"
  • Adds an estimatedWork property - similar to estimatedDuration
  • Adds an impact property - a String with values like "major" or "block"
  • Extends the progress property with more values (deferred, resolved, needs-feedback and confirmed) and adds some mapping recommendations.

Regards,

Joris


[1] https://gist.github.com/jaudriga/cd323fa75397c76b1dd30861ef590302

On 07.03.22 17:22, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the JSON Mail Access Protocol WG of the IETF.

        Title           : JMAP for Tasks
        Authors         : Joris Baum
                          Hans-Joerg
	Filename        : draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.txt
	Pages           : 19
	Date            : 2022-03-07

Abstract:
   This document specifies a data model for synchronizing task data with
   a server using JMAP.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-tasks/

There is also an HTML version available at:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.html

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03


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I just wanted to share them on this mailing list before presenting them at the IETF: > > > * Some systems have a property that displays when an attachment was uploaded. AFAIK, there is no such a property for binary data within JMAP. We could add something like "created" to the JMAP Blob Management Extension? I would assign the created time to the referencing object rather than the blob itself - the blob is more like an inode in unix filesystem terms, which can be referenced by more than one file (with hardlinks) - and each file has its own creation time. > * Keywords are sometimes connected to a color. JMAP is currently unable to expose that information, and simply supports "String[]" for keywords. A new "coloredKeywords" property could be added with an own object with "color" and "word" in JMAP for Tasks. That seems reasonable. Is this per task, or per collection (whatever they're called for Tasks). So you'd have something like: TaskList: keywordColors: { "$urgent": "red", "$pending": "yellow", "$done": "green" } Tasks: "task1": keywords: { "$pending" => true } "task2": keywords: { "$urgent" => true } Obviously nicer syntax required. But basically the keywords are per task, and the colour map is on the container object. Bron. -- Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd brong@fastmailteam.com --3c9fe724aa42463985a29685d0302c3e Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, at 20:16, Joris Baum wrote:
Hi,

there are some property extensions that probably deserve some further discussion. I just wanted to share them on this mailing list before presenting them at the IETF:

<= br>
  • Some systems have a property that displays when an atta= chment was uploaded. AFAIK, there is no such a property for binary data within JMAP. We could add something like "created" to the JMAP Blob Management Extension?

I would= assign the created time to the referencing object rather than the blob = itself - the blob is more like an inode in unix filesystem terms, which = can be referenced by more than one file (with hardlinks) - and each file= has its own creation time.
<= br>
  • Keywords= are sometimes connected to a color. JMAP is currently unable to expose that information, and simply supports "String[]" for keywords. A new "coloredKeywords" property could be added with an own object with "color" and "word" in JMAP for Tasks.

That seems reasonable.&nb= sp; Is this per task, or per collection (whatever they're called for Tas= ks).

So you'd have something like:

TaskList:
  keywordColors: { "$urgent": "red", "$pending": "yellow", "$done": "gre=
en" }

Tasks:
  "task1":
     keywords: { "$pending" =3D> true }
  "task2":
     keywords: { "$urgent" =3D> true }

Obviously nicer= syntax required.  But basically the keywords are per task, and the= colour map is on the container object.

Bron.

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  bro= ng@fastmailteam.com


--3c9fe724aa42463985a29685d0302c3e-- From nobody Mon Mar 21 06:05:09 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84853A0A94 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 06:05:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.908 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.908 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K0LEuTg8DYfQ for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 06:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.audriga.com (mail.audriga.com [176.221.42.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 711683A19A9 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 06:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.audriga.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1629A158 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 14:04:51 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.audriga.com Received: from mail.audriga.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.audriga.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5z_mzWT97LM1 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 14:04:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [31.133.136.205] (dhcp-88cd.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.136.205]) (Authenticated sender: joris@audriga.com) by mail.audriga.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67610A0B6 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2022 14:04:49 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------ur4XTR6c0VQsMFsbCb2xnC05" Message-ID: <2b17edf3-439b-3100-892a-a8651f6da764@audriga.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 14:04:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.7.0 From: Joris Baum To: jmap@ietf.org References: <164667016340.25313.7882177718484676887@ietfa.amsl.com> <707539cf-3bbf-9f9c-ad8e-6cb5a33f1877@audriga.com> <9d83b6a5-b18c-3171-dbbc-8edfa68263bd@audriga.com> <59843137-5d20-4663-b74c-f22ce73c7be6@dogfood.fastmail.com> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <59843137-5d20-4663-b74c-f22ce73c7be6@dogfood.fastmail.com> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jmap] I-D Action: draft-ietf-jmap-tasks-03.txt X-BeenThere: jmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: JSON Message Access Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 13:05:04 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ur4XTR6c0VQsMFsbCb2xnC05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, On 21.03.22 08:58, Bron Gondwana wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, at 20:16, Joris Baum wrote: >> >> * Some systems have a property that displays when an attachment was >> uploaded. AFAIK, there is no such a property for binary data >> within JMAP. We could add something like "created" to the JMAP >> Blob Management Extension? >> > > I would assign the created time to the referencing object rather than > the blob itself - the blob is more like an inode in unix filesystem > terms, which can be referenced by more than one file (with hardlinks) > - and each file has its own creation time. > So to be more specific: for the JMAP Tasks (JSCalendar) case you would recommend to add a "created" property to the Links object? >> * Keywords are sometimes connected to a color. JMAP is currently >> unable to expose that information, and simply supports "String[]" >> for keywords. A new "coloredKeywords" property could be added >> with an own object with "color" and "word" in JMAP for Tasks. >> > > That seems reasonable.  Is this per task, or per collection (whatever > they're called for Tasks). > > So you'd have something like: > > TaskList: > keywordColors: { "$urgent": "red", "$pending": "yellow", "$done": "green" } > > Tasks: > "task1": > keywords: { "$pending" => true } > "task2": > keywords: { "$urgent" => true } > > Obviously nicer syntax required. But basically the keywords are per > task, and the colour map is on the container object. Yes! That looks good and is a common pattern. I will look at it a little bit closer, though. 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Hi,


On 21.03.22 08:58, Bron Gondwana wrote= :
On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Joris Baum wrote:

On 21.03.22 08:58, Bron Gondwana wrote:

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, at 20:16, Joris Baum wrote:
  • Some systems have a property that displays when an attachment was uploaded. AFAIK, there is no such a property for binary data within JMAP. We could add something like "created" to the JMAP Blob Management Extension?

I would assign the created time to the referencing object rather than the blob itself - the blob is more like an inode in unix filesystem terms, which can be referenced by more than one file (with hardlinks) - and each file has its own creation time.

So to be more specific: for the JMAP Tasks (JSCalendar) case you would recommend to add a "created" property to the Links object?


Would the time when a Link object is added to the Task have the same semantics as the time "when an attachment was uploaded"?

If that's the case, I would rather not just add a "created" timestamp to Link, it should be allowed on any object type. Or preferably, I already have promised to write a RFC draft that tracks property changes for any JMAP object type, I just didn't take the time to write it.
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Changed milestone "Submit Sieve document to the IESG", set due date to April 2022 from February 2022. Deleted milestone "Submit JSON Contact document to IESG". Changed milestone "Submit JMAP Calendars document to the IESG", set due date to July 2022 from April 2022. Changed milestone "Submit SMIME Sender Extensions document to the IESG", set due date to August 2022 from February 2022. Changed milestone "Submit JMAP Quotas document to the IESG", set due date to August 2022 from June 2022. Changed milestone "Adopt a document defining JMAP access to addressbooks", set due date to November 2022 from April 2022. Changed milestone "Submit document with guidance for implementation of IMAP servers and proxies (Informational)", set due date to December 2022 from April 2022. 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There are some action items out of this week's meeting: *JMAP:** * * Bron to revise jmap-blob based on comments * Bron to WGLC jmap-quotas * Neil to update jmap-sharing draft for WGLC * Neil to update jmap-calendars draft * Joris to specify process-tracking better or split draft * Joris to produce an updated jmap-tasks draft *EXTRA:* * Bron to WGLC sieve-action-register * Bron to WGLC sieve-snooze * Bron to call for adoption sieve-process-imip * Alexey to update imap-partial draft based on discussion from this meeting Lots of things to do, so please hop to it! Cheers, Bron. -- Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd brong@fastmailteam.com --836f0da088244f139270cf9804b9e948 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi JMAP and EXTRA,

I'm just writing one mes= sage to both of you, because the minutes are together in the datatracker= too.

There are some action items out of this week's meet= ing:

JMAP:
  • Bron to revise jmap-blob based on comments
  • Bron to WGLC jmap-quotas
  • Neil to update jmap-sharing draft for WGLC
    • <= li style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Neil to update jmap-calendars draft
    =
  • Joris to specify process-tracking = better or split draft
  • Joris to = produce an updated jmap-tasks draft

EXTRA:
  • Bron to WGLC sieve-action-register
  • Bron to WGLC sieve-snooze
  • Bron to call for adoption sieve-process-imip
  • Alexey to update imap-partial draft based on discussion = from this meeting

Lots of things to do, so please hop= to it!

Cheers,
=
Bron.

--
  Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd
  brong@fastmailteam.com


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Hi all,
Based on feedback that it was = ready at IETF113, this email starts a working group last call for draft-iet= f-jmap-quotas.

Please give any feedback by Friday April 8= th.  Unless there are objections, I will submit it to IESG then.

Thanks,
Bron.

<= /div>
--
  Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd
=
  brong@fastmailteam.com


<= /div> --fb210ca4791445dfa41170241bbd693e-- From nobody Sun Mar 27 11:14:34 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jmap@ietf.org Delivered-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298893A0F61; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 11:14:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: jmap@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.46.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jmap@ietf.org Message-ID: <164840486711.29024.8028686731542270779@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 11:14:27 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Jmap] I-D Action: draft-ietf-jmap-blob-11.txt X-BeenThere: jmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: JSON Message Access Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 18:14:27 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the JSON Mail Access Protocol WG of the IETF. Title : JMAP Blob management extension Author : Bron Gondwana Filename : draft-ietf-jmap-blob-11.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2022-03-27 Abstract: The JMAP base protocol (RFC8620) provides the ability to upload and download arbitrary binary data via HTTP POST and GET on defined endpoint. This binary data is called a "blob". This extension adds additional ways to create and access blobs, by making inline method calls within a standard JMAP request. This extension also adds a reverse lookup mechanism to discover where blobs are referenced within other data types. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-blob/ There is also an HTML version available at: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-jmap-blob-11.html A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-jmap-blob-11 Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts From nobody Sun Mar 27 11:26:07 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014ED3A10E1 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 11:26:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.106 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.106 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fastmailteam.com header.b=BuTTccHN; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=RS6QCX+a Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z9yh8X5Yr6Y4 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 11:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FEF03A10E5 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 11:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848283200B25; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 14:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap43 ([10.202.2.93]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 27 Mar 2022 14:25:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= fastmailteam.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm2; bh=4VTd0SAx6nu6Aq2/HI4rColOkemQdbznR9YXTu qmwFo=; b=BuTTccHNWBQEcBztbYOt5pUfLZFgHqhbNXmFIVTInHW09wwHN8rO4b 7HHyJeUnxSz/u0itdrWTEHzVrxzoRd2Y1WU63sNF/RLdM1KFRWDJlvHHBAu6XnhB imAt2H44B03ivR57D0omwFqcPxu2zqYF1sbKPoYQ0XSFqtNFcvBiXNNKWTvrYeyB nNdu0630DKF8peBQpgq/eRNzgEvbibQB067XvMrsW4rQh+QZQQqKwKo2iyyvxRUR IwUzeyLOQkcuXKmWbtmsPvKJsZCWUbcJIJlO/sRmQWYLdF8qurJJE+RoeGX5m8jJ iTV3CS5n+ec+xZeW18/RvGSxUC8FBu9w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=4VTd0SAx6nu6Aq2/HI4rColOkemQdbznR9YXTuqmw Fo=; b=RS6QCX+asrQdoCKWZ5gGKA+amGcEK88eBwhn2QNvXHEQ0K9qXyKpZipE6 XJVPcJsWkB6LibiGc1cqng0AtZtAPklCtvlbV6reH+NfYKpu8qlJviiY+4lu89Ux OT2RwmkxGn6+uGRNzGo/bV8Go0XB5hWj9FbKEHqg3im9drdTJSOpJdFHZt1RUJLz lZheGM3vSOVQsw8ETgHwPhGXmc/X4nQVlKR0sEJIwZibBRyYtQMBJuYwJld1O/JR P/4mOdsb0tTVvUkemxS6FGcCNtxBmXR1fmUZ1if1uTSoKCH26R0Gm4KqHa8ZfZm2 PfNh845n+HGk605Vrq+m83m3oBi2A== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvvddrudehhedguddvhecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpefofgggkfffhffvufgtsegrtderreerredtnecuhfhrohhmpedfuehrohhn ucfiohhnugifrghnrgdfuceosghrohhnghesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlthgvrghmrdgtohhmqe enucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefhjeehkeejkeehveeutdejteeihffffeduiedttdejhfel teevueehudeltdeuffenucffohhmrghinhepihgvthhfrdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrh fuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepsghrohhnghesfhgrshhtmhgr ihhlthgvrghmrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id DFE8FAC0E98; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 14:25:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-4911-g925b585eab-fm-20220323.003-g925b585e Mime-Version: 1.0 x-forwarded-message-id: <164840486743.29024.3700756372197227451@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:25:35 +0200 From: "Bron Gondwana" To: jmap@ietf.org Cc: "Jim Fenton" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=706c46efc80a4b70a574d71dc47709d6 Archived-At: Subject: [Jmap] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-jmap-blob-11.txt X-BeenThere: jmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: JSON Message Access Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 18:26:06 -0000 --706c46efc80a4b70a574d71dc47709d6 Content-Type: text/plain This has the size change (example and wording) based on the IETF113 comments. I believe this is good to go to IESG now, wanna do another 2 weeks WGLC on it just in case? I'm pretty sure it's fine - everyone with a strong opinion was in the IETF113 session, but it's your call. Cheers, Bron. ----- Original message ----- From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Bron Gondwana Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-jmap-blob-11.txt Date: Sunday, March 27, 2022 20:14 A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-jmap-blob-11.txt has been successfully submitted by Bron Gondwana and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-jmap-blob Revision: 11 Title: JMAP Blob management extension Document date: 2022-03-26 Group: jmap Pages: 29 URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-jmap-blob-11.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-blob/ Html: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-jmap-blob-11.html Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-jmap-blob Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-jmap-blob-11 Abstract: The JMAP base protocol (RFC8620) provides the ability to upload and download arbitrary binary data via HTTP POST and GET on defined endpoint. This binary data is called a "blob". This extension adds additional ways to create and access blobs, by making inline method calls within a standard JMAP request. This extension also adds a reverse lookup mechanism to discover where blobs are referenced within other data types. 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This has the size change (example and wording) based on th= e IETF113 comments.  I believe this is good to go to IESG now, wann= a do another 2 weeks WGLC on it just in case?  I'm pretty sure it's= fine - everyone with a strong opinion was in the IETF113 session, but i= t's your call.

Cheers,

Bron.

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Abstract:
   The JMAP base protocol= (RFC8620) provides the ability to upload and
   download arbitrary binary data via HTTP PO= ST and GET on defined
 &= nbsp; endpoint.  This binary data is called a "blob".

   This extension adds additional ways to create and access = blobs, by
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&nbs= p;  This extension also adds a reverse lookup mechanism to discover= where
   blobs are= referenced within other data types.

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In general, it looks good to me. Most of my comments are small things which might or might not require some more clarification. General note: Typically, collaborative software development tools allow tracking the changes to any task property. Such a "history"-feature is most likely out of scope for that draft, but it looks like `VSTATUS` could be used (to some extent) for that feature. Maybe it would make sense to state in the draft that tracking history of all properties is not covered by the spec? Section 4: * Task Actors mentions "Organizer" as an actor. In the picture, it is not part of that group. I suggest to either leave it out in the text or change the group name in the picture (probably the latter). * The Task Actors roles seem to be purely informational. Maybe it would make sense to specify how they are supposed to be mapped to an iCalendar equivalent, like `ORGANIZER`? Section 12.2: * A "name-space" is mentioned, but it seems to be not defined what a "name-space" should look like. * When using IANA registered values for `REASON` as done in one of the examples (`REASON:out-of-office`) do not seem to be of `URI` type. I guess that is not in line with its definition? The following are probably merely minor notes (about spelling, style and copy+paste errors). You would probably have found them yourself before a WGLC, but I think it does not hurt to include them: Section 7.2: * "See section 3.1.3 Task Domain Data Handling." You probably meant section 7.3 ? * "Extensions [Doug114] to the RELATED-TO" Reference not included. You probably meant draft-ietf-calext-ical-relations ? * REL is used as a param in the examples, e.g. `LINK;REL="vacation-system";VALUE=URI:http://example.com/vacation-approval?id=1234`. But it is not part of draft-ietf-calext-ical-relations. I guess it comes from an earlier version of the spec? Section 9: "In addition a number of different patterns of resource or assignee identification are anticipated." - "In addition, a number of different patterns of resource or assignee identification are anticipated." (very minor, but it confused me for a short while) Section 10.3: "As situations chnage further VSTATUS components" → "As situations change further VSTATUS components" Section 10.4: * "Alarms (VLARM components)" → "Alarms (VALARM components)" * "Task Generating System, e.g., a BPMS" → Maybe specify what a BPMS is. However, Wikipedia seems to understand it. Section 19: I am unable to open or find the [TARCH] reference? 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Hi,


I just had a look at the draft-ietf-calext-ical-tasks-03 spec. In general, it looks good to me. Most of my comments are small things which might or might not require some more clarification.

General note: Typically, collaborative software development tools allow tracking the changes to any task property. Such a "history"-feature is most likely out of scope for that draft, but it looks like `VSTATUS` could be used (to some extent) for that feature. Maybe it would make sense to state in the draft that tracking history of all properties is not covered by the spec?

Section 4:

  • Task Actors mentions "Organizer" as an actor. In the picture, it is not part of that group. I suggest to either leave it out in the text or change the group name in the picture (probably the latter).
  • The Task Actors roles seem to be purely informational. Maybe it would make sense to specify how they are supposed to be mapped to an iCalendar equivalent, like `ORGANIZER`?

Section 12.2:

  • A "name-space" is mentioned, but it seems to be not defined what a "name-space" should look like.
  • When using IANA registered values for `REASON` as done in one of the examples (`REASON:out-of-office`) do not seem to be of `URI` type. I guess that is not in line with its definition?


The following are probably merely minor notes (about spelling, style and copy+paste errors). You would probably have found them yourself before a WGLC, but I think it does not hurt to include them:

Section 7.2:

  • "See section 3.1.3 Task Domain Data Handling." You probably meant section 7.3 ?
  • "Extensions [Doug114] to the RELATED-TO" Reference not included. You probably meant draft-ietf-calext-ical-relations ?
  • REL is used as a param in the examples, e.g. `LINK;REL="vacation-system";VALUE=URI:http://example.com/vacation-approval?id=1234`. But it is not part of draft-ietf-calext-ical-relations. I guess it comes from an earlier version of the spec?

Section 9: "In addition a number of different patterns of resource or assignee identification are anticipated." - "In addition, a number of different patterns of resource or assignee identification are anticipated." (very minor, but it confused me for a short while)

Section 10.3: "As situations chnage further VSTATUS components" → "As situations change further VSTATUS components"

Section 10.4:

  • "Alarms (VLARM components)" → "Alarms (VALARM components)"
  • "Task Generating System, e.g., a BPMS" → Maybe specify what a BPMS is. However, Wikipedia seems to understand it.

Section 19: I am unable to open or find the [TARCH] reference?


Regards,

Joris


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