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KAWPR01MB0129; 5:BsV6pR+f/w/+d9OXcgWuRcRjh7hmi1l4MEj+vvklvEMztS9i6bLwtv1yS+bItZjO07+8gYrsspPJoIl7eGyQKhUnZ1V5IZhldxt1q3ZQ9ifLGwHrLrWwO09bFcRTauMMj8wW7W7Qanobm+iUZanmfg==; 24:Ke8Ij+UqmKLvqnQcsjzGSkUyJCDJ2GOMzcqKNWPyKz14utfnSt4MTb2DnJWEP21PAWKMfLC87M/ZJGaQimWdCSqNYMsSmDvrsSwJ3Hqx1G8= SpamDiagnosticOutput: 1:23 SpamDiagnosticMetadata: NSPM X-OriginatorOrg: it.aoyama.ac.jp X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2016 04:10:33.0569 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: KAWPR01MB0129 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 20:54:32 -0800 Subject: Re: [Justfont] I-D Action: draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel-00.txt X-BeenThere: justfont@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Font Top Level Media Type \(just font\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 04:10:44 -0000 For those interested in a diff between this and the previous (non-WG) draft, please use this: http://tools.ietf.org//rfcdiff?url2=https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel-00.txt&url1=https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-lilley-font-toplevel-00.txt Please note that the differences are really minimal. Regards, Martin. On 2016/01/29 22:51, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Font Top Level Media Type Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : The font Top Level Type > Author : Chris Lilley > Filename : draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel-00.txt > Pages : 12 > Date : 2016-01-29 > > Abstract: > This memo serves to register and document the "font" Top Level Type, > under which the Internet Media subtypes for representation formats > for fonts may be registered. This document also serves as a > registration application for a set of intended subtypes, which are > representative of some existing subtypes already registered under the > "application" tree by their separate registrations. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel-00 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > . > From nobody Wed Feb 3 13:00:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C7D1B2CDE for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 13:00:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LMFz_MuDgof8 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 13:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from raoul.w3.org (raoul.w3.org [IPv6:2001:470:8b2d:804:52:12:128:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE62E1B2CDF for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 13:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from cim06-h01-31-32-14-119.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr ([31.32.14.119] helo=M6700) by raoul.w3.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.1:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aR4Xe-000BX5-2q for justfont@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:00:47 +0000 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 22:00:43 +0100 From: Chris Lilley Organization: W3C X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14210554135.20160203220043@w3.org> To: justfont@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Justfont] Closed off the IETF-Nits, have a new reference for ISO 14496-22 X-BeenThere: justfont@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Font Top Level Media Type \(just font\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:00:51 -0000 Hello Justfont, When submitting the draft-00 I got some IETF-Nits about Normative vs Informative sections, RFC 2119, and IANA considerations section. I logged those as issue 9 on github. https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/9 I just pushed a revised version which addresses all three, and closed that issue. The checklist for IDs was helpful here http://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist I would be particularly glad of comments on the IANA Considerations section, which now says This specification requires IANA to modify the rules for the existing Internet Media Types registry by adding a new font top-level type in the standards tree. Latest draft https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/blob/master/draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel-current.xml I also had to create a new reference, to ISO 14496-22:2015 (Open Font Format) which was not listed in the xml2rfs 'other' references section http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml2/ My reference is at https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/blob/master/reference.ISO.14496-22.2015.xml How do I submit that to the references section so others can use it? -- Best regards, Chris Lilley Technical Director, W3C Interaction Domain From nobody Sat Feb 6 06:02:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893F51A0094 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 06:02:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9wJQ67LWgjRy for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 06:02:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from raoul.w3.org (raoul.w3.org [IPv6:2001:470:8b2d:804:52:12:128:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0B1C1A0093 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 06:02:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from cim06-h01-31-32-14-119.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr ([31.32.14.119] helo=M6700) by raoul.w3.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.1:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aS3Rc-000BA8-4A; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 14:02:36 +0000 Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 15:02:32 +0100 From: Chris Lilley Organization: W3C X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1278633346.20160206150232@w3.org> To: justfont@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Justfont] font top-level type: Outlines "in various combinations" X-BeenThere: justfont@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: justfont@ietf.org List-Id: "Font Top Level Media Type \(just font\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 14:02:40 -0000 Hello, Open issue #2 concerns this rather wooly phrase: TTF, CFF or SVG outlines can be present in various combinations in the same font file, therefore, multiple values for the same optional parameter may be defined. https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/2 First, I assume this means multiple values for the parameter, not specifying the parameter multiple times which I have not seen in Internet Media type parameters. Second, specified how exactly? comma separated list? space separated? Thirdly, is this vagueness for forwards compat in case someday CFF and TTF are allowed in the same font file? There are (in OFF v.3) only four valid combinations: TTF CFF TTF, SVG CFF, SVG It seems clearer to say either TTF or CFF, optionally followed by SVG. Do I need to give a whole grammar along the lines of (wsp? comma wsp*) | wsp+ Alternatively, no commas and just whitespace separated (one or more 0x20). What do people think. -- Best regards, Chris Lilley Technical Director, W3C Interaction Domain From nobody Sat Feb 6 06:21:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB14E1A00FC for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 06:21:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7kIl518VeBvW for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 06:21:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from raoul.w3.org (raoul.w3.org [IPv6:2001:470:8b2d:804:52:12:128:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB8EF1A00FA for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 06:21:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from cim06-h01-31-32-14-119.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr ([31.32.14.119] helo=M6700) by raoul.w3.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.1:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aS3jz-000BKQ-Kt; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 14:21:35 +0000 Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 15:21:32 +0100 From: Chris Lilley Organization: W3C X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <175815705.20160206152132@w3.org> To: justfont@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Justfont] Internet Media type for font collections X-BeenThere: justfont@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: justfont@ietf.org List-Id: "Font Top Level Media Type \(just font\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 14:21:39 -0000 Hello, It is unclear in the current spec what Internet media Type to use for Collections (previously, TrueType Collections but now expanded to OpenType as well). I can see several possibilities, which have different impacts on the spec. a) Just use font/truetype for TTC. + avoids adding another type - no way to indicate support for collections in an Accept header - complicates specifying a fragment identifier (only sometimes legal) consequences: need to add .ttc to the file types section change fragment identifiers to allow an optional fragment (but only if ttc) Similarly, just use font/opentype for OTC (is .otc the usual filetype?) (same pluses, minuses and consequences as for TTC) b) Same as a) but add a parameter like collection="true" or something. I don't like this option, partly because params are often awkward to configure on servers and tend to be little used (or hard coded to particular filetypes) and also because it has all the disadvantages of a) regarding optional fragments. c) Define two new media types, for TTC (TrueType outlines, no OpenType layout) and for OTC (CFF or TTF outlines, OpenType Layout) - two more types (but at least, no parameters) + easy to map to existing filetypes .ttc .otc + fragment identifier easy to specify (numeric, the n'th font in the collection where n starts at one. If omitted, same as #1) + Easy to use in an Accept header Option c) is my preferred option, would be interested to hear what others think. This refers to github issues: Media type for OpenType collections #6 https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/6 Fragment syntax for collections #7 https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/7 although the main question for #7 is what media type to put the fragment syntax onto. The actual syntax of #1, #2 is uncontroversial and already used (but as a non-normative example) in CSS3 Fonts. -- Best regards, Chris Lilley Technical Director, W3C Interaction Domain From lunde@adobe.com Sat Feb 6 07:27:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631171A1A31 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 07:27:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HF5ROhyQZm5K for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 07:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0064.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A6B91A1A2E for ; 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:BN3PR02MB1142; H:BN3PR02MB1143.namprd02.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: adobe.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 06 Feb 2016 15:27:15.6384 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: fa7b1b5a-7b34-4387-94ae-d2c178decee1 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN3PR02MB1142 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 15:01:57 -0800 Cc: "justfont@ietf.org" , "w3c-webfonts-wg \(public-webfonts-wg@w3.org\)" Subject: Re: [Justfont] Internet Media type for font collections X-BeenThere: justfont@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Font Top Level Media Type \(just font\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 15:28:38 -0000 Chris, I am not sure how helpful this information is, or how it would factor into = this issue, but all of the OpenType/CFF Collections of which I am aware use= the ".ttc" filename extension, not the ".otc" one. These include the Sourc= e Han Sans, Source Han Code JP, and Noto Sans CJK families, along with the = large number of OpenType/CFF Collections that are bundled with OS X Version= 10.11. The main reason is due to the latter filename extension not being r= ecognized. It is somewhat unfortunate that two different filename extensions have been= deployed for non-collections, meaning ".ttf" and ".otf," and the current s= ituation with collections provides an opportunity to use a single filename = extension, specifically the ".ttc" one. I will add the above to Issue #7. Best... -- Ken > On Feb 6, 2016, at 6:21 AM, Chris Lilley wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > It is unclear in the current spec what Internet media Type to use for > Collections (previously, TrueType Collections but now expanded to > OpenType as well). I can see several possibilities, which have > different impacts on the spec. >=20 > a) Just use font/truetype for TTC. > + avoids adding another type > - no way to indicate support for collections in an Accept header > - complicates specifying a fragment identifier (only sometimes legal) >=20 > consequences: > need to add .ttc to the file types section > change fragment identifiers to allow an optional fragment (but only > if ttc) >=20 > Similarly, just use font/opentype for OTC (is .otc the usual filetype?) > (same pluses, minuses and consequences as for TTC) >=20 > b) Same as a) but add a parameter like collection=3D"true" or something. > I don't like this option, partly because params are often awkward to > configure on servers and tend to be little used (or hard coded to > particular filetypes) and also because it has all the disadvantages of > a) regarding optional fragments. >=20 > c) Define two new media types, for TTC (TrueType outlines, no OpenType > layout) and for OTC (CFF or TTF outlines, OpenType Layout) > - two more types (but at least, no parameters) > + easy to map to existing filetypes .ttc .otc > + fragment identifier easy to specify (numeric, the n'th font in the > collection where n starts at one. If omitted, same as #1) > + Easy to use in an Accept header >=20 > Option c) is my preferred option, would be interested to hear what > others think. >=20 > This refers to github issues: > Media type for OpenType collections #6 > https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/6 >=20 > Fragment syntax for collections #7 > https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/7 >=20 > although the main question for #7 is what media type to put the > fragment syntax onto. The actual syntax of #1, #2 is uncontroversial > and already used (but as a non-normative example) in CSS3 Fonts. >=20 > --=20 > Best regards, > Chris Lilley > Technical Director, W3C Interaction Domain >=20 >=20 From nobody Sun Feb 7 07:35:15 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AB41B3C16 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2016 07:35:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0r49jPDW5hzi for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2016 07:35:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from raoul.w3.org (raoul.w3.org [IPv6:2001:470:8b2d:804:52:12:128:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 448BE1B3C13 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2016 07:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from cim06-h01-31-32-14-119.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr ([31.32.14.119] helo=M6700) by raoul.w3.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.1:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aSRMj-0001eK-4R for justfont@ietf.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 15:35:09 +0000 Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 16:35:04 +0100 From: Chris Lilley Organization: W3C X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1841720038.20160207163504@w3.org> To: justfont@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Justfont] Editorial issues X-BeenThere: justfont@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Font Top Level Media Type \(just font\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 15:35:14 -0000 Hello, The list of closed issues is at https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed Any of these can be re-opened if there is further discussion, of course. Four were editorial: - Add CSS3 fonts reference #4 https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/4 The 'format' part of the @font-face src descriptor was used without a reference to the defining specification. I added the reference. - WOFF "published specification" #5 https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/5 The text said that, for WOFF 1.0 "This media type registration is extracted from the WOFF specification at W3C." Except it wasn't. The WOFF 1.0 spec had the old, application/font-woff registration. I changed this to say "This media type registration updates the the WOFF specification at W3C." (Once this ID becomes an RFC, the W3C WebFonts WG will errata WOFF 1.0 to point to it). - Drop "Primary Content Type" for "Top level Type" #8 https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/8 The phrase "Primary Content Type", copied from the model/* registration, is obsolete and should be changed for the correct term, "Top Level Type". I changed all occurrences. - IETF nits #9 https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/9 This issue was to remind me to fix nits at https://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel-00.txt The issues were: ** The document seems to lack an IANA Considerations section. (See Section 2.2 of http://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist for how to handle the case when there are no actions for IANA.) ** The document seems to lack separate sections for Informative/Normative References. All references will be assumed normative when checking for downward references. ** The document seems to lack a both a reference to RFC 2119 and the recommended RFC 2119 boilerplate, even if it appears to use RFC 2119 keywords. The issue was closed by adding explicit Normative and Informative references, correctly using the xref element, and adding a reference to RFC 2119. Two issues were not editorial but seemed clear-cut. Apologies if I closed them prematurely: - Magic number for SVG #3 https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/3 The specification talks about magic numbers for TrueType and CFFe outlines, so I opened an issue asking about a magic number for SVG outlines. Rod Sheeter commented on the GitHub issue with a quote from the OpenType spec which verified that the existing magic numbers were correct. In addition, SVG outlines alsways occur together with either TrueType or CFF outlines, not by themselves. Thus, there is no magic number for SVG as such. - OpenType shaping parameter #1 https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/issues/1 This was an issue raised on draft-lilley but not resolved before this IETF WG was created. it was raised by Grzegorz Rolek on Twitter. he pointed out that the abbreviation "OTF" (OpenType Format) was being used both as a format specifier and also as a layout language specifier. The correct term for the latter is "OTL" (OpenType Layout). I corrected the draft to use OTF where the format was meant, and OTL where the layout was meant. -- Best regards, Chris Lilley Technical Director, W3C Interaction Domain From nobody Sun Feb 7 20:39:02 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F4C1A9086 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2016 20:39:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.302 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.302 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pkm3w-KSKp2b for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2016 20:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from p02c11o141.mxlogic.net (p02c11o141.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 177731A9084 for ; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:27:56 +1100 Message-Id: <1527D783-46F2-4256-B08A-787A3947F9A8@mnot.net> To: justfont@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: Wendy Seltzer Subject: [Justfont] Meeting in B-A? X-BeenThere: justfont@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Font Top Level Media Type \(just font\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 05:28:21 -0000 Does anyone think it would be useful to hold a WG meeting for this in = B-A, or do we think we can complete the work on the list + github? Regards, -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ From nobody Tue Feb 9 14:00:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D2F1B2A66 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:00:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C3hNFtz5CJJf for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from raoul.w3.org (raoul.w3.org [IPv6:2001:470:8b2d:804:52:12:128:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA7891B2A96 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from cim06-h01-31-32-14-119.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr ([31.32.14.119] helo=M6700) by raoul.w3.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.1:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aTGKQ-000CKO-CP; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:00:10 +0000 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 23:00:06 +0100 From: Chris Lilley Organization: W3C X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1444417979.20160209230006@w3.org> To: Mark Nottingham , justfont@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <1527D783-46F2-4256-B08A-787A3947F9A8@mnot.net> References: <1527D783-46F2-4256-B08A-787A3947F9A8@mnot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: Wendy Seltzer Subject: Re: [Justfont] Meeting in B-A? X-BeenThere: justfont@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Font Top Level Media Type \(just font\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:00:16 -0000 Hello Mark, Tuesday, February 9, 2016, 6:27:56 AM, you wrote: > Does anyone think it would be useful to hold a WG meeting for this > in B-A, or do we think we can complete the work on the list + github? Personally I would be unable to attend IETF 95 in Buenos Aires, https://www.ietf.org/meeting/95/index.html because the dates of 3-8 April conflict with a prior commitment of mine to attend the second Web Audio conference on 4-6 April in Atlanta, GA (plus a W3C working group meeting on the two following days). http://webaudio.gatech.edu/ I don't feel that a face to face meeting is particularly needed. We started with a fairly mature draft which captured current practice, and the commenting and editing has been light so far. So list + github works for me. Looking at the important dates for IETF 95, though https://www.ietf.org/meeting/important-dates-2016.html I see 2016-03-21 as the cutoff for Internet Draft submissions so I would love to get a draft-01 out the door before that time, to encourage wider review. -- Best regards, Chris Lilley Technical Director, W3C Interaction Domain From nobody Tue Feb 9 14:08:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35DB1B2A9B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:08:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L3hdy21vmbYM for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from raoul.w3.org (raoul.w3.org [IPv6:2001:470:8b2d:804:52:12:128:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67E421B2AD7 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from cim06-h01-31-32-14-119.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr ([31.32.14.119] helo=M6700) by raoul.w3.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.1:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aTGSe-000D0B-4x; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:08:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 23:08:36 +0100 From: Chris Lilley Organization: W3C X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1944046169.20160209230836@w3.org> To: "Levantovsky, Vladimir" , "justfont@ietf.org" In-Reply-To: <83262c0ea4e446af83d5304040d390c7@wob-maildb-04.agfamonotype.org> References: <1278633346.20160206150232@w3.org> <83262c0ea4e446af83d5304040d390c7@wob-maildb-04.agfamonotype.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Justfont] font top-level type: Outlines "in various combinations" X-BeenThere: justfont@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Font Top Level Media Type \(just font\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:08:44 -0000 Hello Vlad, Monday, February 8, 2016, 5:38:48 AM, you wrote: > I'd suggest that we should say that > multiple values of the parameter in question can be defined as a > comma-separated list of values without imposing any particular > restrictions on what these values can be or how different types of > outlines can be combined. Whether there is a valid use case to have > only SVG outlines present, or if there is (is not) a use case that > combines TTF and CFF outlines shouldn't be decided here, I'd rather > allow the parameter to reflect what the font data provides. A good point. I have added wording to that effect: "this optional parameter is a list containing one or more items, separated by commas, with optional whitespace. Order in the list is not significant." Does that sound okay or does it need more EBNF precision, like separator: wsp* "," wsp* The same wording occurs in several places: here are the exact commits https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/commit/a1d2709bd29d59f4a007bb2819494e66246c51f5 https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/commit/6e7d2612e4fe5a6c0b97b4f4db2b5509b5fb0edf https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont/commit/34a37f5a5f8ce13f2528384b2e9dfaae3cb378c9 -- Best regards, Chris Lilley Technical Director, W3C Interaction Domain From nobody Tue Feb 9 14:17:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB001B2BF2 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:17:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OVB9dtk8iM6d for ; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Justfont] Internet Media type for font collections X-BeenThere: justfont@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Font Top Level Media Type \(just font\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 23:05:45 -0000 Hello Vladimir, Monday, February 8, 2016, 5:42:54 AM, you wrote: > I am not sure if there is a use case where specifying the fact that > a font file is the font collection is important but if there is - we > can define another subtype for font collections and use the same > optional parameters to specify what types of outlines / layout mechanism are supported. That is the option I have gone with. (I also added a curent directory with text, html and pdf versions for easier review.) https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont -- Best regards, Chris Lilley Technical Director, W3C Interaction Domain From nobody Tue Feb 23 19:36:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: justfont@ietf.org Delivered-To: justfont@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE911B3BE6; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:36:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160224033630.8093.51168.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:36:30 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: justfont@ietf.org Subject: [Justfont] I-D Action: draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel-01.txt X-BeenThere: justfont@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Font Top Level Media Type \(just font\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 03:36:30 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Font Top Level Media Type of the IETF. Title : The font Top Level Type Author : Chris Lilley Filename : draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel-01.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2016-02-23 Abstract: This memo serves to register and document the "font" Top Level Type, under which the Internet Media subtypes for representation formats for fonts may be registered. This document also serves as a registration application for a set of intended subtypes, which are representative of some existing subtypes already in use, and currently registered under the "application" tree by their separate registrations. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-justfont-toplevel-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/