From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Mon Aug 01 02:13:33 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DzTVG-0007qr-UN; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:10:22 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DzTVB-0007qU-JG for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:10:21 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA23148 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 02:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from serrano.cc.columbia.edu ([128.59.29.6] ident=cu41754) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DzU1M-0005TU-FZ for kitten@ietf.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:43:35 -0400 Received: from [86.255.19.123] (openConcorde-19-123.ietf63.ietf.org [86.255.19.123] (may be forged)) (user=jaltman mech=PLAIN bits=0) by serrano.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j716A8ad009791 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 02:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42EDBCE2.5050700@columbia.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:10:42 -0400 From: Jeffrey Altman Organization: No Longer Affiliated with Columbia University in the City of New York User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kitten@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 16c9da4896bf5539ae3547c6c25f06a0 Cc: Subject: IETF63 Kitten Working Group Meeting - Please participate X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1092169339==" Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============1092169339== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060102000805070909070608" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060102000805070909070608 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060106090503050004040707" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060106090503050004040707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Kitten WG meeting will occur today Monday, 1030-1200 Paris Time. I would like to encourage folks to participate in the meeting, even if you are unable to attend in person. As usual, a Jabber chat room will be available so that folks not present in person can follow along and contribute. Information on joining the chat room is available at http://www.xmpp.org/ietf-chat.html In addition, there will be a one-way MP3 audio stream available, allowing remote participants to hear everything that goes on during the meeting. Information on the audio feed is appended to the end of this message. The agenda and presentation slides will be available on the web at http://web.mit.edu/jaltman/www/kitten/ietf63/ by the time the meeting starts. In addition, Kitten has been selected to participate in an experimental real-time proceedings tool that allows updates to the agenda and presentations to be updated during the meeting. The following URL can be used to access the IETF site during the meeting: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/proceeding_onsite.cgi?meeting_num=63 -- Jeff --------------060106090503050004040707 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Attached Message" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Attached Message" Return-Path: Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by dewberry.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j6PMBNpd023116 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxB9H-0006QE-U4; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:10:12 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxB9G-0006Q3-5B for ietf@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:10:10 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA28054 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twin.uoregon.edu ([128.223.214.27]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DxBeA-00020J-W0 for ietf@ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:42:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by twin.uoregon.edu (8.13.1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id j6PMA52F019078 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:10:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Jaeggli X-X-Sender: joelja@twin.uoregon.edu To: ietf@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scan-Signature: 8b30eb7682a596edff707698f4a80f7d Subject: Status of audio streaming for IETF 63. (revisited) X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.28.165 Just a quick update, and a question. Can anyone would would like to recieve the stream, but would find 64Kb/s to be prohibitively high-bitrate please contact me, so I know if there in fact are any? The new streaming effort continues for IETF 63. All eight parallel tracks as well as the plenaries will be covered. It is our hope that this effort will continue to provide useful timely and accessible access to the proceedings of the IETF as they happen. An internet draft (revised since IETF 62) desscribing what the project intends to accomplish, and the efforts up to this point is available at: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jaeggli-ietftv-ng-01.txt Streams are to be delivered as 64Kb/s unicast-http-streamed mp3 audio, a popular and relativly standard way to deliver internet radio. Most platforms should have a client immediatly available (windows media player, quicktime, real, winamp, vlc, mplayer, zinf, etc) capable of playing back the stream. Streaming begins at 0730 CEST (UTC/GMT +2), August 1, 2005. Visit the streaming webpage for additional information, access to the streams, updated broadcast schedule and links to the archived media as they appear. http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ietf63.html To test your client against a currently active stream of the same type prior to the the meeting, visit the webpage for instruction. regards joelja -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Jaeggli Unix Consulting joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu GPG Key Fingerprint: 5C6E 0104 BAF0 40B0 5BD3 C38B F000 35AB B67F 56B2 _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf --------------060106090503050004040707-- --------------ms060102000805070909070608 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 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kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Mon Aug 01 15:50:03 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DzgIU-0003r4-UZ; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:50:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DzgIT-0003qc-I9 for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:50:01 -0400 Received: from newodin.ietf.org (newodin.ietf.org [10.27.6.50]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA05060 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 15:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mlee by newodin.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DzgIT-0004ZK-7e; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:50:01 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:50:01 -0400 Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 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This draft is a work item of the Kitten (GSS-API Next Generation) Working Group of the IETF. Title : A PRF API extension for the GSS-API Author(s) : N. Williams Filename : draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2005-8-1 This document defines a Pseudo-Random Function (PRF) extension to the Generic Security Service Application Programming Interface (GSS-API) for keying application protocols given an established GSS-API security context. The primary intended use of this function is to key secure session layers that don't or cannot use GSS-API per- message MIC (message integrity check) and wrap tokens for session protection. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2005-8-1122933.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2005-8-1122933.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten --NextPart-- From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Tue Aug 02 20:20:51 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0707-0005Mn-AM; Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:20:51 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0705-0005Mf-Ef for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:20:49 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA26641 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E07Wa-00019e-CL for kitten@ietf.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:54:29 -0400 Received: from phys-d3-ha21sca-1 ([129.145.155.163]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j730KgvU024076 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:20:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com by ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IKM00301E51Z6@ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> (original mail from Seema.Malkani@Sun.COM) for kitten@ietf.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sun.com (pilatus.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.128.115]) by ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IKM002OOEAHJW@ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for kitten@ietf.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:20:41 -0700 From: Seema Malkani In-reply-to: To: Nicolas Williams Message-id: <42F00DD9.8060306@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20041214 References: X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 0fa76816851382eb71b0a882ccdc29ac Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org In reference to the Java Bindings for PRF, I would prefer not to mention any Java interface/class/method names in this draft. All the Java Bindings for the new GSS extensions will be submitted separately. Thanks, Seema Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >This draft is a work item of the Kitten (GSS-API Next Generation) Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : A PRF API extension for the GSS-API > Author(s) : N. Williams > Filename : draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt > Pages : 9 > Date : 2005-8-1 > >This document defines a Pseudo-Random Function (PRF) extension to the > Generic Security Service Application Programming Interface (GSS-API) > for keying application protocols given an established GSS-API > security context. The primary intended use of this function is to > key secure session layers that don't or cannot use GSS-API per- > message MIC (message integrity check) and wrap tokens for session > protection. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt > >To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to >i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. >You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce >to change your subscription settings. > > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username >"anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, >type "cd internet-drafts" and then > "get draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt". > >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > >Send a message to: > mailserv@ietf.org. >In the body type: > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt". > >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the >Internet-Draft. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Kitten mailing list >Kitten@lists.ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten > > _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Tue Aug 02 21:40:56 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E08Fc-0005l1-C6; Tue, 02 Aug 2005 21:40:56 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E08Fa-0005kl-06 for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2005 21:40:54 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA29967 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu ([128.59.29.5] ident=cu41754) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E08m7-00043I-UE for kitten@ietf.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2005 22:14:35 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (reverse.completel.net [83.145.64.156] (may be forged)) (user=jaltman mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j731el4X014243 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42F020C3.4060003@columbia.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 03:41:23 +0200 From: Jeffrey Altman Organization: No Longer Affiliated with Columbia University in the City of New York User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Seema Malkani References: <42F00DD9.8060306@sun.com> In-Reply-To: <42F00DD9.8060306@sun.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.5 X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 287c806b254c6353fcb09ee0e53bbc5e Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0150599920==" Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============0150599920== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090206010201040704040902" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090206010201040704040902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seema Malkani wrote: > In reference to the Java Bindings for PRF, I would prefer not to mention > any Java interface/class/method names in this draft. All the Java > Bindings for the new GSS extensions will be submitted separately. > > Thanks, > Seema Seema: By doing so what you are doing is imposing a significant delay on the ability of Java applications to be able to support prf() functionality prior to the completion of a final GSSv3 API RFC. Only when Kitten have submitted this document will a complete Java GSSv3 binding document be available. Applications that take advantage of the prf() are going to be in use long before that. I believe the document is careful to not alter any of the currently defined interfaces. It merely states that if a Java implementation provides this method it will have the specified prototype and the class that implements will also implement the interface. Introspection will have to be used by the application to determine if it is present or not. This is the way that all "extension" methods would have to be implemented since it is not possible to extend interfaces in Java. Can you please explain your reasoning to the working group? 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charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten --===============0150599920==-- From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Aug 03 13:02:33 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0MdV-0002L4-LG; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:02:33 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0MdI-0002Kl-FW for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:02:20 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA01117 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2005 13:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu ([128.59.29.5] ident=cu41754) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0NA0-0002BJ-Ar for kitten@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:36:09 -0400 Received: from [86.255.24.98] (open-24-98.ietf63.ietf.org [86.255.24.98]) (user=jaltman mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j73H2952002898 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 3 Aug 2005 13:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42F0F8B6.9060107@columbia.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:02:46 +0200 From: Jeffrey Altman Organization: No Longer Affiliated with Columbia University in the City of New York User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050728 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kitten , housley@vigilsec.com, hartmans-ietf@mit.edu X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.5 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 4b66a1e94d7d92973ece9e5da449ff80 Cc: Subject: Summary of IETF63 Kitten meeting X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1438548451==" Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============1438548451== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020603040309030906030206" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020603040309030906030206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Kitten working group met at IETF63 in one of the new style rooms. We really lucked out because the room contained at least three mobile microphones that were handed out to the audience. It enabled realtime discussions in a much more flexible format. We would like to see more of this at future IETF meetings. More mobile mics the better. Summarized document status: * PRF API extension for GSS draft -05 submitted Addresses issues raised during the most recent WGLC. Will be submitted for a short WGLC next week * PRF API for Kerberos 5 GSS draft -04 passed WGLC Being held until the generic PRF extension document passes WGLC * Corrections and Updates of GSS-API Java Bindings The existing draft contains a list of changes from RFC 2853. These changes were the result of the Java Community Process making changes after the RFC was finished. The JCP is what was implemented. The IETF is effectively rubber stamping these changes as no one implements the RFC. It has been made clear to Sun that for current work the JCP cannot make changes after the documents pass last call. A new draft will be submitted shortly that is 2853 with all of the changes applied. * C# Bindings Since IETF62 consensus was reached to split the C# and Java Bindings into separate documents. A new draft providing a full C# binding based upon RFC 2853 will be published next week. * Desired Enhancements to GSS Naming An informational draft providing scope for the naming problems the working group will solve. All sections but number 7 appear to be ready for WGLC. The chair wishes to expand the description of the credential selection problem described by section 7 before it moves forward. * GSS-API Naming Extensions Draft -00 submitted in May but has not received discussion on the mailing list. * Clarifications to GSSAPI v2 Update 1 No draft yet published and the milestone has been missed Previous volunteers to work on this draft have withdrawn. Technical Discussions: GSS-API Naming Extensions draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-naming-exts-00.txt The working group reviewed the contents of the draft for the purpose of boot strapping discussion as no one had read it before the meeting. The draft has a summary of the problems caused by the limited naming capabilities of GSS import and export name when attempting to use the authenticated name for the purpose of constructing ACLs. This is followed by five sections describing how to extend GSS names with name attributes including sections on how to use pkix attributes and kerberos authorization data. The details are very incomplete and need significant review. We especially need volunteers from the pkix community to assist in this effort. The document describes a proposed abstract api plus C and java language bindings. There is also an IANA considerations. * use of names on ACLs * the need for including critical bit on attributes. This is expected to be easy for PKIX but it is not authenticated. * corrections to the use of kerberos cross realm transit paths. cross realm transit path lists are not ordered. they only provide a list of the realms that were crossed. * the current draft's description of how to reference x.509 trust paths is very incomplete. The full path from the trust anchor must be specified. * Inclusion of PKIX proxy certificates must be specified * Must ensure that the EKU OID is used as part of PKIX names * There is concern that naming is an extremely broad and highly complex problem. Can it be done in a simple generic manner? * The inquire function scares many people. * name attributes are being treated as tagged blobs. This results in problems both with how to represent dependencies between blobs and how to handle in a generic manner how to extract sub-parts of a blob. * there is a concern with how we can successfully compare names when there are arbitrary sets of name attributes. What is the canonical name? Part of the justification for this work is because there is not always a canonical name that is static for all time. * there needs to be a means of limiting the credentials provided to an application based upon the needs of the application and the qualities the credentials support. * Denis Pikas wrote for CAT a draft to describe how to represent group membership. It can be found via google. The wg should review: draft-ietf-cat-xgssapi-acc-cntrl-03.txt * Review closely the saml attribute work * There is a desire to support negative attributes. In order to do so there must be some means of indicating that for a given set of positive and negative ACLs that all of the negative ACLs have been included and none have been removed. The wg ran out of time. Clearly more discussion is required on the list. Please read the draft. Technical Discussion: Moving RFC2743 and RFC2744 to Draft Our AD, Sam Hartman, requested that the WG consider the steps necessary to move RFCs 2743 and 2744 from Proposed to Draft. The wg discussed the scope of interoperability testing at both the wire and language layers. The wg intends to design a test matrix that is rough grained across implementation of features. Nico Williams will ask for assistance within Sun Microsystems for assistance to the chair in putting together the test matrix. The WG will look at gssmonger as a source of tests. Technical Discussion: Review ML archives to find content for 'Clarifications to GSSAPIv2' The wg ran out of time to discuss this topic. The chair is going to ask specific people for assistance with this task. 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charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten --===============1438548451==-- From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Thu Aug 04 02:22:21 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0Z7V-0005aA-5V; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:22:21 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0Z7U-0005a5-Cb for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:22:20 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA02486 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 02:22:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com ([192.18.98.34]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0ZeG-0007LU-Ke for kitten@ietf.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:56:16 -0400 Received: from phys-d3-ha21sca-1 ([129.145.155.163]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j746MDvW024238 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 00:22:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com by ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IKO00D01P91KJ@ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> (original mail from Seema.Malkani@Sun.COM) for kitten@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sun.com (vpn-129-150-24-23.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.150.24.23]) by ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IKO00LTTPP0U8@ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com>; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:23:08 -0700 From: Seema Malkani In-reply-to: <42F020C3.4060003@columbia.edu> To: Jeffrey Altman Message-id: <42F1B44C.5050700@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20040414 References: <42F00DD9.8060306@sun.com> <42F020C3.4060003@columbia.edu> X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 41c17b4b16d1eedaa8395c26e9a251c4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Jeffrey, We have not decided on how PRF will be available in the Java Bindings. Hence, we should not mention any Java interface/class here. Currently section 2.2 states: For Java GSS_Pseudo_random() maps to a method, 'prf', of the class that implements the GSSContext interface. This should be modified to: For Java GSS_Pseudo_random() maps to a method, 'prf'. Thanks, Seema Jeffrey Altman wrote: >Seema Malkani wrote: > > >>In reference to the Java Bindings for PRF, I would prefer not to mention >>any Java interface/class/method names in this draft. All the Java >>Bindings for the new GSS extensions will be submitted separately. >> >>Thanks, >>Seema >> >> > >Seema: > >By doing so what you are doing is imposing a significant delay on the >ability of Java applications to be able to support prf() functionality >prior to the completion of a final GSSv3 API RFC. Only when Kitten >have submitted this document will a complete Java GSSv3 binding document >be available. Applications that take advantage of the prf() are going >to be in use long before that. > >I believe the document is careful to not alter any of the currently >defined interfaces. It merely states that if a Java implementation >provides this method it will have the specified prototype and the >class that implements will also implement the interface. Introspection >will have to be used by the application to determine if it is present >or not. This is the way that all "extension" methods would have to >be implemented since it is not possible to extend interfaces in Java. > >Can you please explain your reasoning to the working group? > >Thanks > >Jeffrey Altman > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Kitten mailing list >Kitten@lists.ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten > > _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Aug 12 15:14:21 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E3eyz-0000bI-6u; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:14:21 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E3eyx-0000b4-Aq for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:14:19 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA13139 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:14:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from carter-zimmerman.mit.edu ([18.18.3.197]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E3fXV-0002oh-TK for kitten@ietf.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:50:03 -0400 Received: by carter-zimmerman.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 8042) id C63C1E0049; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:14:10 -0400 (EDT) To: Seema Malkani References: <42F00DD9.8060306@sun.com> <42F020C3.4060003@columbia.edu> <42F1B44C.5050700@sun.com> From: Sam Hartman Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:14:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: <42F1B44C.5050700@sun.com> (Seema Malkani's message of "Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:23:08 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org >>>>> "Seema" == Seema Malkani writes: Seema> Jeffrey, We have not decided on how PRF will be available Seema> in the Java Bindings. Hence, we should not mention any Java Seema> interface/class here. Seema> Currently section 2.2 states: Seema> For Java GSS_Pseudo_random() maps to a method, 'prf', of Seema> the class that implements the GSSContext interface. Seema> This should be modified to: For Java GSS_Pseudo_random() Seema> maps to a method, 'prf'. I would rather us remove all references to Java until this can be decided. _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Aug 24 17:39:04 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E82xc-0004Q3-SH; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:39:04 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E82xb-0004Od-2i for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:39:03 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA23174 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.125]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E82xy-0000zz-F5 for kitten@ietf.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:39:27 -0400 Received: from mailout1.microsoft.com ([157.54.1.117]) by mail1.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:38:52 -0700 Received: from red-hub-03.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.2.25]) by mailout1.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:38:52 -0700 Received: from win-imc-02.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.0.84]) by red-hub-03.redmond.corp.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:38:51 -0700 Received: from WIN-MSG-10.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.12.89]) by win-imc-02.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:38:37 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:38:51 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) thread-index: AcWnRxz1xVd1wIqkS/KIHJxBYxg2uQBrLsTQ From: "Liqiang\(Larry\) Zhu" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2005 21:38:37.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FBB7C70:01C5A8F4] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f4c2cf0bccc868e4cc88dace71fb3f44 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: FW: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Jeffrey Altman suggested that I can forward this invitation here. Note that there is no registration fee for the interop event. -- Larry -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf-krb-wg@mailhost.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ietf-krb-wg@mailhost.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hutzelman Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:27 AM To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Subject: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) Apparently this was sent to ietf-announce, but not here. Sorry for the oversight..... -- Jeff ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Date: Friday, August 12, 2005 02:30:58 PM -0400 From: Sam Hartman To: IETF-Announce@ietf.org Subject: Kerberos WG interim meeting The IETF Kerberos Working Group will hold an interim meeting September 19-20, 2005. The meeting will be hosted by Microsoft at their Platform Adoption Center in Redmond, WA, USA. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2005-8-26121443.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-06.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-06.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2005-8-26121443.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten --NextPart-- From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Mon Aug 29 09:24:47 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E9jd0-0000M3-WF; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:24:47 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E9jcz-0000Ly-MT for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:24:45 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA08531 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu ([128.59.29.5] ident=cu41754) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9jeL-0007v2-8p for kitten@ietf.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:26:09 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.11] (cpe-68-175-91-105.nyc.res.rr.com [68.175.91.105]) (user=jaltman mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j7TDOfxd020328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <43130CCF.7020905@columbia.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:25:35 -0400 From: Jeffrey Altman Organization: No Longer Affiliated with Columbia University in the City of New York User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050728 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <42F00DD9.8060306@sun.com> <42F020C3.4060003@columbia.edu> <42F1B44C.5050700@sun.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.5 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 932cba6e0228cc603da43d861a7e09d8 Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: Java work in the IETF was Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1699391139==" Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============1699391139== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030607040905020603010801" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030607040905020603010801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sam Hartman wrote: >>>>>>"Seema" == Seema Malkani writes: > > > Seema> Jeffrey, We have not decided on how PRF will be available > Seema> in the Java Bindings. Hence, we should not mention any Java > Seema> interface/class here. > > Seema> Currently section 2.2 states: > > Seema> For Java GSS_Pseudo_random() maps to a method, 'prf', of > Seema> the class that implements the GSSContext interface. > > Seema> This should be modified to: For Java GSS_Pseudo_random() > Seema> maps to a method, 'prf'. > > I would rather us remove all references to Java until this can be > decided. Later today draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-07 will be published. This draft is identical to draft -06 which was published on Friday except that the Normative reference to RFC2853 will have been removed. The primary change in -06/07 is to remove all references to the Java Bindings. Recent discussions have brought to light a conflict between the IETF and Java Community Process (JCP) . A bit of history. RFC 2853 was originally a product of the IETF CAT working group. Before Sun implemented it in the Java Class Libraries the content of 2853 was submitted to the JCP and it became JSR 72 . Under the guidelines of the JCP, all future changes to the Java GSS API must be developed under JSR 72 and must be approved via the JCP procedures . In essence, the JCP is a standards organization with membership requirements and procedures that conflict with those in the IETF. At the present time, neither the IETF nor the JCP are willing to simply accept the work performed by the other. Therefore, it appears that those who are interested in the Java work must choose between one of the two organizations. I believe there are two choices: (1) The JCP can be petitioned to allow the work of the IETF to be the definitive source of specifications for Java GSS under JSR 72. In this case all work would be done in this working group. The Kitten mailing list traffic could be forwarded to the JSR 72 mailing list provided that JSR 72 participants are informed that the IETF Note Well applies to JSR 72. The Java GSS work would continue to be Standards track. (2) The JCP JSR 72 can be the home to work on Java GSS. Discussions related to Java Bindings can take place on the Kitten mailing list but there will be no Java items on the Kitten charter. When a new JCP specification is defined the authors can submit a publication request to the RFC Editor for Informational publication. The Java GSS work would not be Standards track. Seema is researching the options and will come back to this group with her selection. In the meantime, while discussion of Java GSS may continue, I have requested that Nico remove all references to Java from the existing documents we are trying to move forward to the IESG. Once -07 is published, I will issue a WGLC on the document. 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charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten --===============1699391139==-- From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Mon Aug 29 11:20:48 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E9lRI-0007Gp-CK; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:20:48 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E9lRH-0007Gk-Lr for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:20:47 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA16094 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from currant.srv.cs.cmu.edu ([128.2.194.193]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9lSd-00038Y-7i for kitten@ietf.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:22:12 -0400 Received: from CRUNCHBERRY.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU ([128.2.203.75]) by currant.srv.cs.cmu.edu id aa28481; 29 Aug 2005 11:20 EDT Received: from [192.168.0.101] (c-67-165-91-20.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [67.165.91.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by crunchberry.srv.cs.cmu.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7TFKW4g027416 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:20:32 -0400 From: Jeffrey Hutzelman To: Jeffrey Altman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <43130CCF.7020905@columbia.edu> References: <42F00DD9.8060306@sun.com> <42F020C3.4060003@columbia.edu> <42F1B44C.5050700@sun.com> <43130CCF.7020905@columbia.edu> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01aPJV+NJaymy0Pc15m3CFZ/9kjCPvJs7VZ4NdnnI=; token_authority=postmaster@andrew.cmu.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: Re: Java work in the IETF was Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org On Monday, August 29, 2005 09:25:35 -0400 Jeffrey Altman wrote: > At the present time, neither the IETF nor the JCP are willing to > simply accept the work performed by the other. Therefore, it appears > that those who are interested in the Java work must choose between > one of the two organizations. I believe there are two choices: There is a third option, which is to carry on the work jointly in both organizations. The IETF has done joint work with other SDO's in the past; I think it might be worthwhile to consult with our AD and find out what it would take to do so in this case. -- Jeff _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Mon Aug 29 12:24:35 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E9mR1-0002iP-4x; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:24:35 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E9mR0-0002iC-2B for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:24:34 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA19184 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu ([128.59.29.5] ident=cu41754) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9mSM-0004yj-4K for kitten@ietf.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:25:59 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.11] (cpe-68-175-91-105.nyc.res.rr.com [68.175.91.105]) (user=jaltman mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j7TGOQwM008687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:24:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <431336F1.6070000@columbia.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:25:21 -0400 From: Jeffrey Altman Organization: No Longer Affiliated with Columbia University in the City of New York User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050728 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffrey Hutzelman References: <42F00DD9.8060306@sun.com> <42F020C3.4060003@columbia.edu> <42F1B44C.5050700@sun.com> <43130CCF.7020905@columbia.edu> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.5 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 10ba05e7e8a9aa6adb025f426bef3a30 Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: Re: Java work in the IETF was Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-05.txt X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0412278975==" Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============0412278975== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030803020705090603060607" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030803020705090603060607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: > There is a third option, which is to carry on the work jointly in both > organizations. The IETF has done joint work with other SDO's in the > past; I think it might be worthwhile to consult with our AD and find out > what it would take to do so in this case. > > -- Jeff The working group would approach the IAB to establish a liason relationship with the JCP (aka Sun Microsystems, Inc.). 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What release of the new Windows Vista will be available at the Kerberos interop event ? Is this available on MSDN ? Is it possible to participate at the interop event remotely ? Seema Liqiang(Larry) Zhu wrote: >Jeffrey Altman suggested that I can forward this invitation here. > >Note that there is no registration fee for the interop event. > >-- Larry > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-ietf-krb-wg@mailhost.anl.gov >[mailto:owner-ietf-krb-wg@mailhost.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Jeffrey >Hutzelman >Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:27 AM >To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov >Subject: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) > >Apparently this was sent to ietf-announce, but not here. >Sorry for the oversight..... > >-- Jeff > > >---------- Forwarded Message ---------- >Date: Friday, August 12, 2005 02:30:58 PM -0400 >From: Sam Hartman >To: IETF-Announce@ietf.org >Subject: Kerberos WG interim meeting > >The IETF Kerberos Working Group will hold an interim meeting >September 19-20, 2005. The meeting will be hosted by Microsoft at >their Platform Adoption Center in Redmond, WA, USA. > >The primary purpose of this meeting will be to perform >work related to advancing the current Kerberos >specifications (RFC's 3961, 3962, 4120, and associated >documents) to Draft Standard status, and to discuss >issues related to development of the next version of >the protocol (currently referred to as >"RFC1510ter"). In addition, Microsoft will host an >interoperability event, aimed at improving >interoperability of Kerberos implementations and >collecting the testing data needed to advance to Draft >Standard. > >For details on meeting location, hotel and the interoperability event, >please see the meeting website at >http://grand.central.org/dl/ietf-krb-wg/200509/ > > >_______________________________________________ >IETF-Announce mailing list >IETF-Announce@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > > >---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Kitten mailing list >Kitten@lists.ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten > > _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Tue Aug 30 16:05:28 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EACMK-0002iB-Q0; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:05:28 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EACMI-0002f3-N0 for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:05:26 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA07455 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.124]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EACNt-0004dN-7D for kitten@ietf.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:07:06 -0400 Received: from mailout1.microsoft.com ([157.54.1.117]) by mail2.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:05:15 -0700 Received: from red-hub-02.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.7.100]) by mailout1.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:05:15 -0700 Received: from win-imc-01.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.0.39]) by red-hub-02.redmond.corp.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:05:15 -0700 Received: from WIN-MSG-10.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.12.88]) by win-imc-01.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:04:53 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:05:13 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: FW: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) thread-index: AcWtnQGc7Ey9Xfv+TSKmXURd61fUHAAAQmoA From: "Liqiang\(Larry\) Zhu" To: "Seema Malkani" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2005 20:04:53.0771 (UTC) FILETIME=[162245B0:01C5AD9E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3002fc2e661cd7f114cb6bae92fe88f1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: RE: FW: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Info was sent to Seema off the list.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Seema Malkani [mailto:Seema.Malkani@Sun.COM]=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:57 PM To: Liqiang(Larry) Zhu Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: Re: FW: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) Can you provide more details on the Kerberos interop event. What release of the new Windows Vista will be available at the Kerberos interop event ? Is this available on MSDN ? Is it possible to participate at the interop event remotely ? Seema Liqiang(Larry) Zhu wrote: >Jeffrey Altman suggested that I can forward this invitation here. > >Note that there is no registration fee for the interop event. > >-- Larry > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-ietf-krb-wg@mailhost.anl.gov >[mailto:owner-ietf-krb-wg@mailhost.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Jeffrey >Hutzelman >Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:27 AM >To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov >Subject: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) > >Apparently this was sent to ietf-announce, but not here. >Sorry for the oversight..... > >-- Jeff > > >---------- Forwarded Message ---------- >Date: Friday, August 12, 2005 02:30:58 PM -0400 >From: Sam Hartman >To: IETF-Announce@ietf.org >Subject: Kerberos WG interim meeting > >The IETF Kerberos Working Group will hold an interim meeting >September 19-20, 2005. The meeting will be hosted by Microsoft at >their Platform Adoption Center in Redmond, WA, USA. > >The primary purpose of this meeting will be to perform >work related to advancing the current Kerberos >specifications (RFC's 3961, 3962, 4120, and associated >documents) to Draft Standard status, and to discuss >issues related to development of the next version of >the protocol (currently referred to as >"RFC1510ter"). In addition, Microsoft will host an >interoperability event, aimed at improving >interoperability of Kerberos implementations and >collecting the testing data needed to advance to Draft >Standard. > >For details on meeting location, hotel and the interoperability event, >please see the meeting website at >http://grand.central.org/dl/ietf-krb-wg/200509/ > > >_______________________________________________ >IETF-Announce mailing list >IETF-Announce@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > > >---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Kitten mailing list >Kitten@lists.ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten > =20 > _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Tue Aug 30 16:48:05 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EAD1Z-0007ZG-LC; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:48:05 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EAD1X-0007Yl-39 for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:48:03 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA09096 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from serrano.cc.columbia.edu ([128.59.29.6] ident=cu41754) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EAD38-0005dZ-4f for kitten@ietf.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:49:43 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.11] (cpe-68-175-91-105.nyc.res.rr.com [68.175.91.105]) (user=jaltman mech=PLAIN bits=0) by serrano.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j7UKlxCQ017489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4314C638.2020700@columbia.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:48:56 -0400 From: Jeffrey Altman Organization: No Longer Affiliated with Columbia University in the City of New York User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050728 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Liqiang(Larry) Zhu" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0cff8c3ec906d056784362c06f5f88c1 Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: Re: FW: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0521423343==" Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============0521423343== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000209050904000300040608" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000209050904000300040608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why? I'm sure others have the same questions. Jeffrey Altman Liqiang(Larry) Zhu wrote: > Info was sent to Seema off the list. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Seema Malkani [mailto:Seema.Malkani@Sun.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:57 PM > To: Liqiang(Larry) Zhu > Cc: kitten@ietf.org > Subject: Re: FW: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) > > Can you provide more details on the Kerberos interop event. > > What release of the new Windows Vista will be available at the Kerberos > interop event ? Is this available on MSDN ? Is it possible to > participate at the interop event remotely ? > > Seema > > Liqiang(Larry) Zhu wrote: > > >>Jeffrey Altman suggested that I can forward this invitation here. >> >>Note that there is no registration fee for the interop event. >> >>-- Larry >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-ietf-krb-wg@mailhost.anl.gov >>[mailto:owner-ietf-krb-wg@mailhost.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Jeffrey >>Hutzelman >>Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:27 AM >>To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov >>Subject: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) >> >>Apparently this was sent to ietf-announce, but not here. >>Sorry for the oversight..... >> >>-- Jeff >> >> >>---------- Forwarded Message ---------- >>Date: Friday, August 12, 2005 02:30:58 PM -0400 >>From: Sam Hartman >>To: IETF-Announce@ietf.org >>Subject: Kerberos WG interim meeting >> >>The IETF Kerberos Working Group will hold an interim meeting >>September 19-20, 2005. The meeting will be hosted by Microsoft at >>their Platform Adoption Center in Redmond, WA, USA. >> >>The primary purpose of this meeting will be to perform >>work related to advancing the current Kerberos >>specifications (RFC's 3961, 3962, 4120, and associated >>documents) to Draft Standard status, and to discuss >>issues related to development of the next version of >>the protocol (currently referred to as >>"RFC1510ter"). In addition, Microsoft will host an >>interoperability event, aimed at improving >>interoperability of Kerberos implementations and >>collecting the testing data needed to advance to Draft >>Standard. >> >>For details on meeting location, hotel and the interoperability event, >>please see the meeting website at >>http://grand.central.org/dl/ietf-krb-wg/200509/ >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>IETF-Announce mailing list >>IETF-Announce@ietf.org >>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce >> >> >>---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Kitten mailing list >>Kitten@lists.ietf.org >>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Kitten mailing list > Kitten@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten --------------ms000209050904000300040608 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:52:11 -0700 Received: from red-hub-03.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.2.25]) by mailout1.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:52:11 -0700 Received: from win-imc-01.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.0.39]) by red-hub-03.redmond.corp.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:52:10 -0700 Received: from WIN-MSG-10.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.12.88]) by win-imc-01.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:51:48 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:52:08 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: FW: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) thread-index: AcWtpCJ27cC7NPleT8aSvVDgzZVuwgAAGtWQ From: "Liqiang\(Larry\) Zhu" To: "Jeffrey Altman" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2005 20:51:48.0824 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4094580:01C5ADA4] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7fa173a723009a6ca8ce575a65a5d813 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: RE: FW: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org We won't have official answers for some of the questions below, but we can help you in a case-by-case basis. -- Larry -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Altman [mailto:jaltman@columbia.edu]=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:49 PM To: Liqiang(Larry) Zhu Cc: kitten@ietf.org Subject: Re: FW: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) Why? I'm sure others have the same questions. Jeffrey Altman Liqiang(Larry) Zhu wrote: > Info was sent to Seema off the list.=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Seema Malkani [mailto:Seema.Malkani@Sun.COM]=20 > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:57 PM > To: Liqiang(Larry) Zhu > Cc: kitten@ietf.org > Subject: Re: FW: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) >=20 > Can you provide more details on the Kerberos interop event. >=20 > What release of the new Windows Vista will be available at the Kerberos > interop event ? Is this available on MSDN ? Is it possible to > participate at the interop event remotely ? >=20 > Seema >=20 > Liqiang(Larry) Zhu wrote: >=20 >=20 >>Jeffrey Altman suggested that I can forward this invitation here. >> >>Note that there is no registration fee for the interop event. >> >>-- Larry >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-ietf-krb-wg@mailhost.anl.gov >>[mailto:owner-ietf-krb-wg@mailhost.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Jeffrey >>Hutzelman >>Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:27 AM >>To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov >>Subject: Kerberos WG interim meeting (fwd) >> >>Apparently this was sent to ietf-announce, but not here. >>Sorry for the oversight..... >> >>-- Jeff >> >> >>---------- Forwarded Message ---------- >>Date: Friday, August 12, 2005 02:30:58 PM -0400 >>From: Sam Hartman >>To: IETF-Announce@ietf.org >>Subject: Kerberos WG interim meeting >> >>The IETF Kerberos Working Group will hold an interim meeting >>September 19-20, 2005. The meeting will be hosted by Microsoft at >>their Platform Adoption Center in Redmond, WA, USA. >> >>The primary purpose of this meeting will be to perform >>work related to advancing the current Kerberos >>specifications (RFC's 3961, 3962, 4120, and associated >>documents) to Draft Standard status, and to discuss >>issues related to development of the next version of >>the protocol (currently referred to as >>"RFC1510ter"). In addition, Microsoft will host an >>interoperability event, aimed at improving >>interoperability of Kerberos implementations and >>collecting the testing data needed to advance to Draft >>Standard. >> >>For details on meeting location, hotel and the interoperability event, >>please see the meeting website at >>http://grand.central.org/dl/ietf-krb-wg/200509/ >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>IETF-Announce mailing list >>IETF-Announce@ietf.org >>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce >> >> >>---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Kitten mailing list >>Kitten@lists.ietf.org >>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten >>=20 >> >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Kitten mailing list > Kitten@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten _______________________________________________ Kitten mailing list Kitten@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Aug 31 15:57:39 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EAYiJ-0007y2-MN; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:57:39 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EAYiI-0007xk-BR for kitten@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:57:38 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA10074 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail3.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.123]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EAYk4-0008Ax-GM for kitten@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:59:30 -0400 Received: from mailout1.microsoft.com ([157.54.1.117]) by mail3.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:57:25 -0700 Received: from red-hub-01.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.7.71]) by mailout1.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:57:25 -0700 Received: from win-imc-02.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.0.84]) by red-hub-01.redmond.corp.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:57:24 -0700 Received: from WIN-MSG-10.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.12.88]) by win-imc-02.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:57:01 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:57:23 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: September 2005 interop event at Redmond campus thread-index: AcWuZjQL18XoTepeRJeGWsOmyVIh7Q== From: "Liqiang\(Larry\) Zhu" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Aug 2005 19:57:02.0102 (UTC) FILETIME=[27690B60:01C5AE66] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8ac499381112328dd60aea5b1ff596ea Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: September 2005 interop event at Redmond campus X-BeenThere: kitten@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Common Authentication Technologies - Next Generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org If you have any specific requirements or machine setups, please drop me a piece of email at lzhu@microsoft.com. 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