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Hi,

We have submitted the following draft "Applicability of GMPLS protocols and 
architectures to Layer 1 Virtual Private Networks", with the intent to show 
how existing GMPLS architectures and protocols can be applied to L1VPNs, as 
well as to show deltas from current GMPLS.

Comments are really appreciated.

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Cc: "'Kireeti Kompella'" <kireeti@juniper.net>, l1vpn@ietf.org
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Hi,

In the last IETF meeting and following mailing list discussion, there is 
considerable level of interest in L1VPNs. Would it be possible to have some 
time to discuss L1VPNs in the CCAMP meeting, if time allows ?

Related documents :
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-l1vpn-framework-00.txt 
(revision planned)
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-l1vpn-applicability-00.txt

Also :
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ouldbrahim-ppvpn-gvpn-bgpgmpls-05.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-overlay-04.txt

At 22:55 04/07/06 +0100, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>Hi,
>
>We received several comments after the Seoul IETF about the format and 
>quality of the
>CCAMP meeting. The essence was that there were too many drafts and not 
>enough time for
>discussion.
>
>In order to ensure that we meet the needs of the working group and, in 
>particular, advance
>our charter items and milestones, we will be focussing the San Diego 
>meeting by topic
>rather than by I-D. This may mean we miss out on a lot of drafts that may 
>be of interest
>to the WG, but since these drafts have not received a high level of 
>debate on the mailing
>list over the last two months there is no reason to assume that this is 
>an urgent problem.
>This approach will, however, buy us valuable discussion time for some 
>important work.
>
>As an early outline, the agenda will be something like the following 
>(with some scope for
>fine tuning as we go along). Please bring drafts that you feel are 
>pertinent to the
>attention of Kireeti and me (whether or not you are an author). Note, 
>however, that drafts
>need to be published in good time and should receive discussion on the 
>mailing list.
>
>Normal admin and WG status  [15 minutes]
>ASON [20 minutes]
>Protection and recovery [20 minutes]
>Hello extensions [20 minutes]
>Inter-area/AS TE [75 minutes]
>
>Thanks,
>Adrian

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> Title : Applicability of GMPLS protocols and architectures to 
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Hi,

We have submitted the revised version of L1VPN framework draft.

As I posted previously,

Updates in 01 version:
o Clarification and enhancements for comments received:
    - Addition of definition for new/different terminologies (section 2)
      - Addition of more detailed requirements from ITU-T SG13 (section 8)
      - Clear description of virtual link service model and per VPN peer 
service model (sections 7.3.2 and 7.3.3)
      - Text clarfication (i.e., shared control link, performance)
o More description on virtual node service model (section 7.3.1)
o Modification of table 1 in section 8 (inclusion of virtual node service 
model in the table, etc.)
o Bunch of editorial enhancements

Comments are highly appreciated.

Best regards,

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hi, i was looking at the security section and it is said TBD, it would imho 
interesting to see what are the specific aspects here as pointed out in section 
8: "- Security: The communication between the customer and the provider
must be secure." and expand on it, also in terms of inband communication 
security over DCC/GCC channels

note: as this document is still under the care of the CCAMP WG would it be 
possible to give a status of the document progress on the CCAMP mailing list

much thanks,
- dimitri.

Tomonori TAKEDA wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> We have submitted the revised version of L1VPN framework draft.
> 
> As I posted previously,
> 
> Updates in 01 version:
> o Clarification and enhancements for comments received:
>    - Addition of definition for new/different terminologies (section 2)
>      - Addition of more detailed requirements from ITU-T SG13 (section 8)
>      - Clear description of virtual link service model and per VPN peer 
> service model (sections 7.3.2 and 7.3.3)
>      - Text clarfication (i.e., shared control link, performance)
> o More description on virtual node service model (section 7.3.1)
> o Modification of table 1 in section 8 (inclusion of virtual node 
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> o Bunch of editorial enhancements
> 
> Comments are highly appreciated.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
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Hi Dimitri,
(Now cced to the CCAMP mailing list as well)

Thank you for your comments.

We would like to consider text for security section based on the content of 
section 8, as you suggested. I would expect we need to cover control plane, 
data plane and management plane aspects, as well as configuration (e.g., 
addition of new CE/VPN) and access control (e.g., signaling).

And as you suggested, it would better to inform the status of documents on 
the CCAMP maling list as well.

[L1VPN Framework draft]
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-l1vpn-framework-01.txt

Updates in 01 version:
o Clarification and enhancements for comments received:
      - Addition of definition for new/different terminologies (section 2)
      - Addition of more detailed requirements from ITU-T SG13 (section 8)
      - Clear description of virtual link service model and per VPN peer 
service model (sections 7.3.2 and 7.3.3)
      - Text clarfication (i.e., shared control link, performance)
o More description on virtual node service model (section 7.3.1)
o Modification of table 1 in section 8 (inclusion of virtual node service 
model in the table, etc.)
o Bunch of editorial enhancements


[L1VPN applicabilty draft]
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-l1vpn-applicability-00.txt

- Shows how existing GMPLS architectures and protocols can be applied to L1VPNs
- Identifies any areas where additional protocol extensions or procedures 
are necessary to support L1VPNs


Comments are highly appreciated.

Best regards,



At 14:57 04/07/23 +0200, dimitri papadimitriou wrote:
 >hi, i was looking at the security section and it is said TBD, it would 
imho interesting to see what are the specific aspects here as pointed out 
in section 8: "- Security: The communication between the customer and the 
provider
 >must be secure." and expand on it, also in terms of inband communication 
security over DCC/GCC channels
 >
 >note: as this document is still under the care of the CCAMP WG would it 
be possible to give a status of the document progress on the CCAMP mailing list
 >
 >much thanks,
 >- dimitri.
 >
 >Tomonori TAKEDA wrote:
 >
 >> Hi,
 >> We have submitted the revised version of L1VPN framework draft.
 >> As I posted previously,
 >> Updates in 01 version:
 >> o Clarification and enhancements for comments received:
 >>    - Addition of definition for new/different terminologies (section 2)
 >>      - Addition of more detailed requirements from ITU-T SG13 (section 8)
 >>      - Clear description of virtual link service model and per VPN peer 
service model (sections 7.3.2 and 7.3.3)
 >>      - Text clarfication (i.e., shared control link, performance)
 >> o More description on virtual node service model (section 7.3.1)
 >> o Modification of table 1 in section 8 (inclusion of virtual node 
service model in the table, etc.)
 >> o Bunch of editorial enhancements
 >> Comments are highly appreciated.
 >> Best regards,
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