From sajassi@cisco.com Tue Oct 2 00:03:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEA921F86FE for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 00:03:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_53=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a8LyZ-cPjbyq for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 00:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D5221F86E5 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 00:03:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=12911; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1349161419; x=1350371019; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=hM1HW3zAl5bTZOQn0tcHE6mlw4+iX/zfNFWCp85UpeQ=; b=Px3xbj2CvwYn6seT7xdaKJeAwiRLcHZNC0yqUNFph841bxGn2dQXBpP0 erSGo6OaS3D+weOvF4ZTvtPr4t+oqv5Xjhd9u45hx7l4YN1LMjTiVQZYr VAzz+6SZuOvBuZE0RSZ/bbFmXKc/AkZz0PC8fiXrTzrFq3nrLuaOVSnAR Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFANSQalCtJV2a/2dsb2JhbABFgm67bYEIgiABAQEEEgEnMwUFAgwGAQgRBAEBAQoUCSgRFAkIAgQBDQUIARIHh1EDDwEKmUqPVocMDYlUij1iFAaFUWADlBSCaooLgyKBaYJngVoJNA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,521,1344211200"; d="scan'208";a="127398234" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2012 07:03:38 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com [173.36.12.78]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9273co7002843 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:03:38 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com ([173.36.12.78]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 02:03:38 -0500 From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" To: Jiangyuanlong , "UTTARO, JAMES" , "'Rogers, Josh'" , Aldrin Isaac , Giles Heron Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan-00.txt Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHNoGwL6oAaiasrjE61mDrRHXU5JA== Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:03:37 +0000 Message-ID: <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B06F627@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B1D46EA2A@szxeml546-mbs.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.1.120420 x-originating-ip: [10.21.80.104] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19230.001 x-tm-as-result: No--75.633900-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <8DC26C5EC5158645BAE94570B8873CED@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:03:41 -0000 Yuanlong, You're welcome. In the next rev of evpn-etree draft I will add additional text to describe why forwarding behavior of evpn remains intact when doing E-TREE (e.g., by using the same ESI label). Cheers, Ali On 9/29/12 1:01 AM, "Jiangyuanlong" wrote: >Ali, > >Thank you for the reply, I got your idea. Maybe "split-horizon label" can >be clearly defined in the next version of E-VPN draft, so that it can be >understood better. >Especially how it is constructed for E-Tree service. >=20 >Regards, >Yuanlong > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ali Sajassi (sajassi) [mailto:sajassi@cisco.com] >Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:40 AM >To: Jiangyuanlong; UTTARO, JAMES; 'Rogers, Josh'; Aldrin Isaac; Giles >Heron >Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org >Subject: Re: New Version Notification for >draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan-00.txt > > >Sigh!=20 > >When split-horizon label is used in E-VPN, the stack consists of three >labels (tunnel label,vpn label, and SH label). For E-TREE application, the >same three labels are used and the SH label is used for SH filtering >and/or root/leaf filtering. > >In E-VPN, the SH label is used for filtering of packets on the egress >interface of the egress PE based on the site of origin. In E-TREE >application, we use SH label for exactly the same purpose - filtering on >the egress interface of the egress PE based on the site of origin (that >can also represent leaf/root). > >That is why I have been saying in every email on this thread that the >forwarding behavior of the E-VPN remains unchanged and that's why it >doesn't make sense to add vlan-tag kluge (and as the result change the >forwarding behavior) for something that is already supported. > >Regarding OAM aspects, we have always treated OAM work independently and >we don't want to tie it with a single application of E-VPN. E-VPN has many >applications such as VPLS, VPWS, E-TREE, DCI, DCN/cloud and the OAM MUST >apply to all of them. We have started on OAM work for E-VPN and one draft >was published before last IETF meeting and more will be coming; however, >E-VPN OAM work will be done independent. > >Cheers, >Ali =20 >=20 > >On 9/26/12 2:31 AM, "Jiangyuanlong" wrote: > >>Ali, >> >>On the one hand, you said E-VPN solution doesn't have the limitation of >>data-plane forwarding and inherently support E-Tree, on the other hand, >>you agreed that 2 labels are introduced specially for E-Tree for these >>two cases. Furthermore, forwarding behaviors for these two labels are >>different (for root label, split horizon + forward to both root & leaf >>ports; for leaf label, split horizon + forward only to leaf ports) from >>the E-VPN itself (split horizon only). >>But my main concern is whether OAM is needed for E-VPN, if yes, how it >>can be implemented in practical? >> >>Regards, >>Yuanlong >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ali Sajassi (sajassi) [mailto:sajassi@cisco.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:15 PM >>To: Jiangyuanlong; UTTARO, JAMES; 'Rogers, Josh'; Aldrin Isaac; Giles >>Heron >>Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org >>Subject: Re: New Version Notification for >>draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan-00.txt >> >> >> >>Hi Yuanlong,=20 >> >>If one understood the operation of SH filtering in E-VPN, he would have >>seen that it exactly covers both of these cases that are mentioned below. >> >>Also, E-VPN allows for policy-based forwarding on a per MAC basis without >>scale issue. As I said previously, I won't be able to provide E-VPN >>tutorial over the email. >> >>Cheers, >>Ali >> >>On 9/25/12 12:02 AM, "Jiangyuanlong" wrote: >> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>I don't think E-VPN control plane can solve all the problem of E-Tree. >>>For the following two scenarios data plane indication of E-Tree is >>>needed: >>>1. Per EVI label is assigned, and there are multiple PEs with both Leaf >>>AND Root sites; >>>2. Per label is assigned, and there are multiple >>>Ethernet segments with both Leaf AND Root sites; >>>Using 2 labels (EVI MPLS label or ESI MPLS label respectively) is an >>>option, but maybe OAM is a challenge. >>> >>>Assigning label per MAC for E-Tree will not need this indication, but at >>>expense of scalability. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Yuanlong >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Ali Sajassi (sajassi) [mailto:sajassi@cisco.com] >>>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:42 AM >>>To: UTTARO, JAMES; 'Rogers, Josh'; Aldrin Isaac; Giles Heron >>>Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; Jiangyuanlong >>>Subject: Re: New Version Notification for >>>draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan-00.txt >>> >>> >>>Jim, Aldrin, Josh: >>> >>>You guys are spot on. E-VPN solution doesn't have the limitation of >>>data-plane forwarding that VPLS has and as such it doesn't need addition >>>vlan-tag to solve root/leaf indication issue as it can be supported >>>inherently by the solution. >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Ali >>> >>>On 9/22/12 4:34 PM, "UTTARO, JAMES" wrote: >>> >>>>Josh, >>>> >>>> Yes.. I think that is the reality of it.. VPLS either the LDP or BGP >>>>variety uses data plane learning as the mechanism to "learn".. The fact >>>>that we extend the L2 footprint via these "tunnels" does not change >>>>that >>>>fact.. SO in VPLS the only hammer you have is the data plane, so one >>>>must >>>>manipulate bits on the wire to infer topology ( Limited set of topology >>>>).. >>>> >>>>Another challenge is when roots and leafs "land" on the same PE. >>>> >>>>EVPN is intended to use contexts and associated import/export to manage >>>>the topology.. So here there is a set of tools to create the desired >>>>topologies, along with that there other mechanisms realized i.e >>>>active/active... >>>> >>>>Jim Uttaro >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >>>>Of >>>>Rogers, Josh >>>>Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:03 PM >>>>To: UTTARO, JAMES; Aldrin Isaac; Giles Heron >>>>Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; Jiangyuanlong >>>>Subject: Re: New Version Notification for >>>>draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan-00.txt >>>> >>>>I agree. >>>> >>>>Would it be safe to state that VPLS has a need for a 'etree solution', >>>>but >>>>EVPN does not, because it is inherently supported? >>>> >>>>The previously discussed effort of having a 'single etree solution' for >>>>both VPLS and EVPN may not really be valid due to this. >>>> >>>>In fact, I do not think it is valid to ask for a single solution, EVPN >>>>doesn't have a problem that needs to be fixed here, I don't believe it >>>>factors into this discussion. >>>> >>>>-Josh >>>> >>>> >>>>On 9/22/12 4:56 PM, "UTTARO, JAMES" wrote: >>>> >>>>>EVPN is intended to maximize the flexibility of multiple routing >>>>>contexts >>>>>with arbitrary topologies.. As I have stated in the past, EVPN allows >>>>>for >>>>>E-Tree to be constructed in the control plane, other solutions require >>>>>some method to interrogate data and infer topology. IMO this is not >>>>>desirable. >>>>> >>>>>Jim Uttaro >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >>>>>Of >>>>>Rogers, Josh >>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:49 PM >>>>>To: Aldrin Isaac; Giles Heron >>>>>Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; Jiangyuanlong >>>>>Subject: Re: New Version Notification for >>>>>draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan-00.txt >>>>> >>>>>So, this same sort of 'import/export' of targets is possible using >>>>>BGP-VPLS today, but it faces limitations outlined in >>>>>draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-frwk, in section 2. E-VPN would be able to >>>>>import/export by attachment circuit, and not by PE? Meaning, AC1 one >>>>>PE1 >>>>>may import RTA, while AC2 on PE2 may import RTB? >>>>> >>>>>Its occurred to me that EVPN would be able to use other mechanisms >>>>>that >>>>>have not yet been discussed yet due to sharing a mac table over BGP. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks for the response, >>>>>Josh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On 9/22/12 10:28 AM, "Aldrin Isaac" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In E-VPN an E-tree would be implemented as a hub-and-spoke VPN (like >>>>>>as >>>>>>in a hub-and-spoke IPVPN, i.e. import RTA export RTB at hubs, import >>>>>>RTB >>>>>>export RTA at spokes) with filtering to enforce downstream data flow >>>>>>if >>>>>>desired. The tree could be built using PIM, mLDP, RSVP, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Giles Heron wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Yuanlong, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> however I must say that your memory of the IETF 84 L2VPN meeting >>>>>>>differs from mine (and from what is noted in the minutes). Whilst >>>>>>>Himanshu said that it was better to have the same solution for VPLS >>>>>>>and >>>>>>>E-VPN, Ali stated that there was no benefit in the E-VPN case in >>>>>>>using >>>>>>>an additional tag (such as a VLAN). No consensus was reached in the >>>>>>>meeting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Giles >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2012, at 10:16, Jiangyuanlong >>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> During the 84th IETF meeting, the group discussed the issue of >>>>>>>>E-Tree >>>>>>>>in E-VPN, and it was shown that a single solution was more >>>>>>>>preferred >>>>>>>>than two different approaches for VPLS and E-VPN. >>>>>>>> This I-D probes how the 2VLAN approach can be used to support >>>>>>>>E-Tree >>>>>>>>in E-VPN and it seems not a big issue. >>>>>>>> Any comments from you are greatly appreciated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> Yuanlong >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 4:55 PM >>>>>>>> To: Jiangyuanlong >>>>>>>> Subject: New Version Notification for >>>>>>>>draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan-00.txt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A new version of I-D, draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan-00.txt >>>>>>>> has been successfully submitted by Yuanlong Jiang and posted to >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>> IETF repository. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Filename: draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan >>>>>>>> Revision: 00 >>>>>>>> Title: E-Tree Support with 2VLAN in E-VPN >>>>>>>> Creation date: 2012-09-21 >>>>>>>> WG ID: Individual Submission >>>>>>>> Number of pages: 6 >>>>>>>> URL: >>>>>>>>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2v >>>>>>>>l >>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>n >>>>>>>>- >>>>>>>>0 >>>>>>>>0.txt >>>>>>>> Status: >>>>>>>>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan >>>>>>>> Htmlized: >>>>>>>>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jiang-l2vpn-evpn-etree-2vlan-00 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Abstract: >>>>>>>> This document discusses how the Dual-VLAN approach as described >>>>>>>>in >>>>>>>> [Etree-vlan] can be used to support the transport of E-Tree >>>>>>>>service >>>>>>>> in E-VPN. Thus a single convergent solution is possible for both >>>>>>>>VPLS >>>>>>>> and E-VPN. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The IETF Secretariat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable >>>>>proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject >>>>>to >>>>>copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended >>>>>solely >>>>>for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If >>>>>you >>>>>are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified >>>>>that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in >>>>>relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly >>>>>prohibited and may be unlawful. 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[64.103.25.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i41sm2793010eem.7.2012.10.02.04.19.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 02 Oct 2012 04:19:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Heron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:19:10 +0100 Message-Id: To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.1 \(1498\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1498) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:19:17 -0000 This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04= should be adopted as an L2VPN WG draft. Please review the draft and respond to the list by Tuesday October 16th = with comments as to its suitability for WG adoption. Nabil & Giles= From agmalis@gmail.com Tue Oct 2 06:18:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5AD21F843F for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gwg3j8Uvyv5q for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B7521F842F for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so16843818iec.31 for ; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:18:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=O6jWOd0vXjpCLm0uZ14FAph0kck84eqezIlk4jr5jYA=; b=vAhE/PqqDzLAH5Ck0t3xEG3evRat8rGwJYPvsLUwTXulnl1qzx9zGq/Xxc4Rw60Yrz a+TnVrfg7w+pwxKvEYeoGEhhChHq0XdVOD6B0E1XZMn+zuq2XhSZxjkHOR9gwPpcBnL1 tJjGeSKPMudoBabWAUZSCvBe78uqUccSruviignkgPXIMD39kZvmOR97GOCY4MF49Yhz cDAkKrjbq6ucuD0JkFMojWK8YFSFdGIyCehqEDlxacEdyhydneKvcxcRAnC0wOj/HXcN sZjAideCWHU7vDu8BuJ/0KmaEJHLo1W8Yp9Q9fV4L8HCGXyBuJTC9t5cABiQMS01WTt3 MnQg== Received: by 10.50.13.133 with SMTP id h5mr8719710igc.2.1349183920484; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:18:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.98.73 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:18:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:18:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 To: Giles Heron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:18:42 -0000 I support this draft being adopted by the WG, the functionality is useful. Cheers, Andy On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Giles Heron wrote: > This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 > > should be adopted as an L2VPN WG draft. > > Please review the draft and respond to the list by Tuesday October 16th with comments as to its suitability for WG adoption. > > Nabil & Giles From josh.rogers@twcable.com Tue Oct 2 06:34:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D0B21F867B for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:34:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.13 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.13 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.333, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Q0oNQ9CKj2B for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdpipgw01.twcable.com (cdpipgw01.twcable.com [165.237.59.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF10521F8668 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:34:37 -0700 (PDT) X-SENDER-IP: 10.136.163.12 X-SENDER-REPUTATION: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,523,1344225600"; d="scan'208";a="447292223" Received: from unknown (HELO PRVPEXHUB03.corp.twcable.com) ([10.136.163.12]) by cdpipgw01.twcable.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 02 Oct 2012 09:34:28 -0400 Received: from PRVPEXVS08.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.37]) by PRVPEXHUB03.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.12]) with mapi; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:34:36 -0400 From: "Rogers, Josh" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:34:41 -0400 Subject: Re: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 Thread-Topic: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 Thread-Index: Ac2goqoD15eIpFkNS/yCnP4PU8oWxQ== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:34:42 -0000 Support, this is something needed by SP's. On 10/2/12 6:19 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 > >should be adopted as an L2VPN WG draft. > >Please review the draft and respond to the list by Tuesday October 16th >with comments as to its suitability for WG adoption. > >Nabil & Giles This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the u= se of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the= intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissem= ination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents= of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawf= ul. 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Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:13:37 -0400 From: "Boswell, James" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:13:36 -0400 Subject: Re: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 Thread-Topic: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 Thread-Index: Ac2gwUJtAaKXd8DPR9CSmOy5pPLcHw== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.4.120824 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:15:22 -0000 Support On 10/2/12 9:34 AM, "Rogers, Josh" wrote: >Support, this is something needed by SP's. > > >On 10/2/12 6:19 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: > >>This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: >> >>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-0 >>4 >> >>should be adopted as an L2VPN WG draft. >> >>Please review the draft and respond to the list by Tuesday October 16th >>with comments as to its suitability for WG adoption. >> >>Nabil & Giles > > >Go Green! 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From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sat Oct 6 18:29:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785C421F8447; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:29:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.096, BAYES_00=-2.599, FUZZY_VLIUM=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y+6oNZp9OCSV; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE56821F849B; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121007012951.31424.63703.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 01:29:52 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN Author(s) : Simon Delord Frederic Jounay Lu Huang Zhihua Liu Manuel Paul Ruediger Kunze Nick Del Regno Josh Rogers Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2012-10-06 Abstract: This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. It is intended that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From raymond.key@hotmail.com Sat Oct 6 18:46:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152D921F849B for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:46:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JV-G8wQ-hghX for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snt0-omc4-s33.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s33.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C15421F8499 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SNT123-W34 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s33.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:46:23 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ae7b55ed-fd56-47e4-8ace-7b7610e59004_" X-Originating-IP: [113.92.101.230] From: Raymond Key Sender: To: Subject: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:46:24 +1030 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20121007012951.31424.63703.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20121007012951.31424.63703.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2012 01:46:23.0280 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E60BB00:01CDA42D] X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 01:46:25 -0000 --_ae7b55ed-fd56-47e4-8ace-7b7610e59004_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi L2VPN working group=2C I have updated the captioned draft. The document= is now referring to L2VPN rather than specific to VPLS=2C so that it can b= e used as guideline for both VPLS and E-VPN. Please review and feedback on = the mailing list. Thanks=2CRaymond Key > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Date: Sat=2C 6 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700 > CC: l2vpn@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Workin= g Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN > Author(s) : Simon Delord > Frederic Jounay > Lu Huang > Zhihua Liu > Manuel Paul > Ruediger Kunze > Nick Del Regno > Josh Rogers > Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Pages : 14 > Date : 2012-10-06 >=20 > Abstract: > This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet > Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. 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= --_ae7b55ed-fd56-47e4-8ace-7b7610e59004_-- From lizhong.jin@zte.com.cn Sun Oct 7 18:24:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AE221F8742 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:24:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nQVzs4bOfX0q for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (mx6.zte.com.cn [95.130.199.165]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9300021F8741 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (unknown [192.168.168.119]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTP id 845941934163 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:24:51 +0800 (CST) Received: from mse02.zte.com.cn (unknown [10.30.3.21]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 7E204183BBDD; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:21:35 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse02.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id q981OiCO029198; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:24:44 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from lizhong.jin@zte.com.cn) In-Reply-To: To: giles.heron@gmail.com Subject: Re: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Lizhong Jin Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:24:43 +0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.3FP1 HF212|May 23, 2012) at 2012-10-08 09:24:44, Serialize complete at 2012-10-08 09:24:44 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0007C11748257A91_=" X-MAIL: mse02.zte.com.cn q981OiCO029198 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:24:54 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0007C11748257A91_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi all, Support as co-author. Thanks Lizhong > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:19:10 +0100 > From: Giles Heron > To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" > Subject: WG Adoption call for > draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 > > should be adopted as an L2VPN WG draft. > > Please review the draft and respond to the list by Tuesday October > 16th with comments as to its suitability for WG adoption. > > Nabil & Giles > --=_alternative 0007C11748257A91_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi all,
Support as co-author.

Thanks
Lizhong


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> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:19:10 +0100
> From: Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com>
> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
> Subject: WG Adoption call for
>    draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04
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> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04
>
> should be adopted as an L2VPN WG draft.
>
> Please review the draft and respond to the list by Tuesday October
> 16th with comments as to its suitability for WG adoption.
>
> Nabil & Giles
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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Raymond, IMO: E-VPN provides a l2 VPN service, but it does not only emulate an Ethe= rnet LAN or VLAN across a PSN. E-VPN can provide some features that LAN or = VLAN can not achieve today. For example, the ability to construct different= topologies in one E-VPN instance. Having said that, EVPN is very similarity to L3 VPN, but is at L2 basis. Lucy From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of R= aymond Key Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:16 PM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Hi L2VPN working group, I have updated the captioned draft. The document is now referring to L2VPN= rather than specific to VPLS, so that it can be used as guideline for both= VPLS and E-VPN. Please review and feedback on the mailing list. Thanks, Raymond Key > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700 > CC: l2vpn@ietf.org > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working= Group of the IETF. > > Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN > Author(s) : Simon Delord > Frederic Jounay > Lu Huang > Zhihua Liu > Manuel Paul > Ruediger Kunze > Nick Del Regno > Josh Rogers > Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Pages : 14 > Date : 2012-10-06 > > Abstract: > This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet > Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. It is intended > that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4481712Ddfweml505mbx_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Raymond,

 <= /p>

IMO:  E-VPN provides= a l2 VPN service, but it does not only emulate an Ethernet LAN or VLAN acr= oss a PSN. E-VPN can provide some features that LAN or VLAN can not achieve today. For example, the ability to construct different topolog= ies in one E-VPN instance.

 <= /p>

Having said that, EVPN is= very similarity to L3 VPN, but is at L2 basis.

 <= /p>

Lucy

 <= /p>

From: l2vpn-bo= unces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Key
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:16 PM
To: l2vpn@ietf.org
Subject: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02

 

Hi L2VPN working group,
 
I have updated the captioned draft.  The document is no= w referring to L2VPN rather than specific to VPLS, so that it can be used a= s guideline for both VPLS and E-VPN. Please review and feedback on the= mailing list.
 
Thanks,
Raymond Key
 

> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
> Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt
> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700
> CC: l2vpn@ietf.org
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
> This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Work= ing Group of the IETF.
>
> Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN
> Author(s) : Simon Delord
> Frederic Jounay
> Lu Huang
> Zhihua Liu
> Manuel Paul
> Ruediger Kunze
> Nick Del Regno
> Josh Rogers
> Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt
> Pages : 14
> Date : 2012-10-06
>
> Abstract:
> This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet
> Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. It is intended > that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines. >
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt
>
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
>
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>

--_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4481712Ddfweml505mbx_-- From raymond.key@hotmail.com Tue Oct 9 05:56:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A4A11E80F5 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:56:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XhwD2hxT+E3g for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snt0-omc2-s41.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s41.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA5511E8091 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SNT123-W43 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s41.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:56:50 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_011d38c0-bb12-4e3e-93a9-46fa29b81167_" X-Originating-IP: [113.92.42.71] From: Raymond Key Sender: To: , Subject: RE: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:56:50 +1100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4481712D@dfweml505-mbx> References: <20121007012951.31424.63703.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>, , <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4481712D@dfweml505-mbx> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2012 12:56:50.0487 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C7CE470:01CDA61D] X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 12:56:52 -0000 --_011d38c0-bb12-4e3e-93a9-46fa29b81167_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Lucy.As this draft is not intended to define E-VPN=2C I simply use t= he wording in the working group charter to describe E-VPN in section 2.2. H= ope this serve the purpose.Raymond From: lucy.yong@huawei.com To: raymond.key@ieee.org=3B l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Date: Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 21:57:52 +0000 Raymond=2C =20 IMO: E-VPN provides a l2 VPN service=2C but it does not only emulate an Et= hernet LAN or VLAN across a PSN. E-VPN can provide some features that LAN o= r VLAN can not achieve today. For example=2C the ability to construct different topol= ogies in one E-VPN instance. =20 Having said that=2C EVPN is very similarity to L3 VPN=2C but is at L2 basis= . =20 Lucy =20 From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Key Sent: Saturday=2C October 06=2C 2012 9:16 PM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 =20 Hi L2VPN working group=2C =20 I have updated the captioned draft. The document is now referring to L2VPN= rather than specific to VPLS=2C so that it can be used as guideline for bo= th VPLS and E-VPN. Please review and feedback on the mailing list. =20 Thanks=2C Raymond Key =20 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Date: Sat=2C 6 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700 > CC: l2vpn@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working= Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN > Author(s) : Simon Delord > Frederic Jounay > Lu Huang > Zhihua Liu > Manuel Paul > Ruediger Kunze > Nick Del Regno > Josh Rogers > Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Pages : 14 > Date : 2012-10-06 >=20 > Abstract: > This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet > Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. It is intended > that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 >=20 >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 = --_011d38c0-bb12-4e3e-93a9-46fa29b81167_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Lucy.
As this draft is not intended to define E-VPN=2C I simply&n= bsp=3Buse the wording in the working group charter to describe E-VPN in sec= tion 2.2. Hope this serve the purpose.
Raymond
 =3B
From: lucy.yong@hu= awei.com
To: raymond.key@ieee.org=3B l2vpn@ietf.org
Subject: Comment = on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
Date: Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 21:57:52 +000= 0

Raymond=2C=

 =3B

IMO: =3B E-VP= N provides a l2 VPN service=2C but it does not only emulate an Ethernet LAN= or VLAN across a PSN. E-VPN can provide some features that LAN or VLAN can not achieve today. For example=2C the ability to construct different topol= ogies in one E-VPN instance.

 =3B

Having said that= =2C EVPN is very similarity to L3 VPN=2C but is at L2 basis.

 =3B

Lucy

 =3B

From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailt= o:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Key
Sent: Saturday=2C October 06=2C 2012 9:16 PM
To: l2vpn@ietf.org
Subject: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02

 =3B

Hi L2VPN working group=2C
 =3B
I have updated the =3Bcaptioned =3Bdraft. =3B The document = =3Bis now referring to L2VPN rather than specific to VPLS=2C so that it can= be used as guideline for both VPLS and E-VPN. Please review =3Band fee= dback on the mailing list.
 =3B
Thanks=2C
Raymond Key
 =3B

>=3B From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>=3B To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
>=3B Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt
>=3B Date: Sat=2C 6 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700
>=3B CC: l2vpn@ietf.org
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts d= irectories.
>=3B This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Wo= rking Group of the IETF.
>=3B
>=3B Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN
>=3B Author(s) : Simon Delord
>=3B Frederic Jounay
>=3B Lu Huang
>=3B Zhihua Liu
>=3B Manuel Paul
>=3B Ruediger Kunze
>=3B Nick Del Regno
>=3B Josh Rogers
>=3B Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt
>=3B Pages : 14
>=3B Date : 2012-10-06
>=3B
>=3B Abstract:
>=3B This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet >=3B Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. It is intended<= br> >=3B that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines.<= br> >=3B
>=3B
>=3B The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>=3B https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt
>=3B
>=3B There's also a htmlized version available at:
>=3B http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
>=3B
>=3B A diff from the previous version is available at:
>=3B http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 >=3B
>=3B
>=3B Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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= --_011d38c0-bb12-4e3e-93a9-46fa29b81167_-- From liuzh_gz@qq.com Mon Oct 8 21:03:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E091F11E809B; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:03:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.008 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U8G5D4QsAhlX; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpbg3.qq.com (SMTPBG3.QQ.COM [183.60.61.198]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 40B441F0C70; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:03:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qq.com; s=s0907; t=1349755389; bh=oGvdrz57gwaI56IrCj5EVCMsRhP3OJCjzHcy+sWLvTU=; h=X-QQ-mid:Received:X-QQ-SSF:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:X-Priority: X-Has-Attach:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Message-ID:Content-Type; b=Oeq4dhfZzwPCWoEBfX+Ln+iJ0CM9cXaSe7PMTmy9gvva+4e3lviXzB3tcin08J5xp XWcsQyKlya8Ic0Vf0GZZSpQRuIGLB85Ft1fpuNWwAwKHMFmR3ZLonqzljYnglej X-QQ-mid: esmtp12t1349755388t923t13530 Received: from GSTA-DATA (unknown [120.88.10.249]) by esmtp4.qq.com (ESMTP) with id ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 12:03:08 +0800 (CST) X-QQ-SSF: 0000000000000020F63202000000000 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:03:03 +0800 From: liuzh_gz To: "Giles Heron" Subject: Re: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 X-Priority: 3 X-Has-Attach: no X-Mailer: Foxmail 7.0.1.91[cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2012100912025182848213@qq.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_001_NextPart402261180822_=----" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 09:22:04 -0700 Cc: l2vpn , l2vpn-bounces X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 04:03:19 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_001_NextPart402261180822_=---- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 U3VwcG9ydCENCg0KWmhpaHVhIExpdQ0KDQo+DQo+IERhdGU6IFR1ZSwgMiBPY3QgMjAxMiAxMjox OToxMCArMDEwMA0KPiBGcm9tOiBHaWxlcyBIZXJvbiA8Z2lsZXMuaGVyb24gYXQgZ21haWwuY29t Pg0KPiBUbzogImwydnBuIGF0IGlldGYub3JnIiA8bDJ2cG4gYXQgaWV0Zi5vcmc+DQo+IFN1Ympl Y3Q6IFdHIEFkb3B0aW9uIGNhbGwgZm9yDQo+ICAgIGRyYWZ0LWxpdS1sMnZwbi12cGxzLWludGVy LWRvbWFpbi1yZWR1bmRhbmN5LTA0DQo+IE1lc3NhZ2UtSUQ6IDxDM0M0NTZDNS00Mzg0LTQ4Q0Qt OUQxMS01MzEyOTVGODAxQkEgYXQgZ21haWwuY29tPg0KPiBDb250ZW50LVR5cGU6IHRleHQvcGxh aW47IGNoYXJzZXQ9dXMtYXNjaWkNCj4gDQo+IFRoaXMgaXMgYSByZXF1ZXN0IHRvIGdhdWdlIGNv bnNlbnN1cyBhcyB0byB3aGV0aGVyOg0KPiANCj4gaHR0cDovL3Rvb2xzLmlldGYub3JnL2h0bWwv ZHJhZnQtbGl1LWwydnBuLXZwbHMtaW50ZXItZG9tYWluLXJlZHVuZGFuY3ktMDQNCj4gDQo+IHNo b3VsZCBiZSBhZG9wdGVkIGFzIGFuIEwyVlBOIFdHIGRyYWZ0Lg0KPiANCj4gUGxlYXNlIHJldmll dyB0aGUgZHJhZnQgYW5kIHJlc3BvbmQgdG8gdGhlIGxpc3QgYnkgVHVlc2RheSBPY3RvYmVyIA0K PiAxNnRoIHdpdGggY29tbWVudHMgYXMgdG8gaXRzIHN1aXRhYmlsaXR5IGZvciBXRyBhZG9wdGlv bi4NCj4gDQo+IE5hYmlsICYgR2lsZXM= ------=_001_NextPart402261180822_=---- Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Zhihua Liu
 
>
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:19:10&nbs= p;+0100
> From: Giles Heron <giles.heron at&nb= sp;gmail.com>
> To: "l2vpn at ietf.org" <l2vpn = at ietf.org>
> Subject: WG Adoption call for
>    draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redunda= ncy-04
> Message-ID: <C3C456C5-4384-48CD-9D11-531295F801BA&n= bsp;at gmail.com>
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> This is a request to gauge co= nsensus as to whether:
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> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-red= undancy-04
> 
> should be adopted as an L2VPN = ;WG draft.
> 
> Please review the draft and respon= d to the list by Tuesday October 
> 16th with comments as to its = suitability for WG adoption.
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> Nabil & Giles
 
------=_001_NextPart402261180822_=------ From sajassi@cisco.com Tue Oct 9 12:03:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B6421F86FC for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.498 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.498 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ejVM2qA2vAdH for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB5321F86F1 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:03:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=13883; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1349809430; x=1351019030; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=xnoYTeH+l8XmOXMILkjHnIbfm6f9e7FJBj6QMEv651I=; b=Goo8QDteAPdC22b6Dky9VnHG18ffDTS26k+co6FOWf22nZMqHGOqDhvp wutCRAAbOv9uEkwx8fArZLXxL99o9DXOvFJh9VzXk693Dp3FAYGemLu0Z webnpdfVyJ4WcVqMMLDpsMTr80nm8CFhxDpYV1PkiEqMU5UxInpO02LZY s=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhwFAMZ0dFCtJV2b/2dsb2JhbABFgksjs2MBiFyBCIIgAQEBAwESAVsQDQEIEQMBAQELHTkUCQgCBAESCAESB4ddBgEKmj6PWJA7i0OFM2ADlwCNMIFrgm2CFw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,561,1344211200"; d="scan'208,217";a="129911837" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2012 19:03:39 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com [173.36.12.76]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q99J3dja014159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:03:39 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com ([173.36.12.76]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:03:39 -0500 From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" To: Raymond Key , "lucy.yong@huawei.com" , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Thread-Topic: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Thread-Index: AQHNpC2ULfnpFgJE4E+vkOuhm0OxZJewS2MAgAD7KwD///EigA== Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:03:37 +0000 Message-ID: <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08CEF1@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.1.120420 x-originating-ip: [10.128.2.115] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19254.003 x-tm-as-result: No--41.690100-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08CEF1xmbalnx13ciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:03:51 -0000 --_000_69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08CEF1xmbalnx13ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Raymond, Thanks for updating the draft. May I suggest the following minor changes: Abstract: From: "This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet F= orum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN." To: "This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet For= um (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in multipoint L2VPN solutions (refe= rred to as simply L2VPN)." Introduction, 1st para: same change as in Abstract The reason for adding the keyword "multipoint" is to differentiate VPLS and= E-VPN solutions from VPWS solution. All three of them are L2VPN solutions = but E-TREE requirements applies to the former two. Cheers, Ali From: Raymond Key > Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:56 AM To: "lucy.yong@huawei.com" >, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <= l2vpn@ietf.org> Subject: RE: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Thanks Lucy. As this draft is not intended to define E-VPN, I simply use the wording in = the working group charter to describe E-VPN in section 2.2. Hope this serve= the purpose. Raymond ________________________________ From: lucy.yong@huawei.com To: raymond.key@ieee.org; l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:57:52 +0000 Raymond, IMO: E-VPN provides a l2 VPN service, but it does not only emulate an Ethe= rnet LAN or VLAN across a PSN. E-VPN can provide some features that LAN or = VLAN can not achieve today. For example, the ability to construct different= topologies in one E-VPN instance. Having said that, EVPN is very similarity to L3 VPN, but is at L2 basis. Lucy From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-b= ounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Key Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:16 PM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Hi L2VPN working group, I have updated the captioned draft. The document is now referring to L2VPN= rather than specific to VPLS, so that it can be used as guideline for both= VPLS and E-VPN. Please review and feedback on the mailing list. Thanks, Raymond Key > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700 > CC: l2vpn@ietf.org > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working= Group of the IETF. > > Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN > Author(s) : Simon Delord > Frederic Jounay > Lu Huang > Zhihua Liu > Manuel Paul > Ruediger Kunze > Nick Del Regno > Josh Rogers > Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Pages : 14 > Date : 2012-10-06 > > Abstract: > This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet > Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. It is intended > that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > --_000_69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08CEF1xmbalnx13ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <15044B2461CADB4DB5A4C15AF17936A7@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Raymond,

Thanks for updating the draft. May I suggest the following minor chang= es:

Abstract:
From:  "This document provides f= unctional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) suppo= rt in L2VPN."
To:  "This document provides fun= ctional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) suppo= rt in multipoint L2VPN solutions (referred to as simply L2VPN)."

Introduction, 1st para: same change as in Abstract

The reason for adding the keyword "multipoint" is to differe= ntiate VPLS and E-VPN solutions from VPWS solution. All three of them are L= 2VPN solutions but E-TREE requirements applies to the former two.

Cheers,
Ali

From: Raymond Key <raymond.key@ieee.org>
Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:56= AM
To: "lucy.yong@huawei.com" <lucy.yong@huawei.com>, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2= vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Comment on draft-ietf-= l2vpn-etree-reqt-02

Thanks Lucy.
As this draft is not intended to define E-VPN, I simply use the wordin= g in the working group charter to describe E-VPN in section 2.2. Hope this = serve the purpose.
Raymond
 
From: lucy.yong@huawei.com
To: raymond.key@ieee.org; l2vpn@ietf.org
Subject: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:57:52 +0000

Raymond,

 

IMO:  E-VPN provides a l2 = VPN service, but it does not only emulate an Ethernet LAN or VLAN across a = PSN. E-VPN can provide some features that LAN or VLAN can not achieve today. For example, the ability to construct d= ifferent topologies in one E-VPN instance.

 

Having said that, EVPN is very = similarity to L3 VPN, but is at L2 basis.

 

Lucy

 

From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Key
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:16 PM
To: l2vpn@ietf.org
Subject: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02

 

Hi L2VPN working group,
 
I have updated the captioned draft.  The document is no= w referring to L2VPN rather than specific to VPLS, so that it can be used a= s guideline for both VPLS and E-VPN. Please review and feedback on the= mailing list.
 
Thanks,
Raymond Key
 

> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org=
> Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt
> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700
> CC: l2vpn@ietf.org
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
> This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Work= ing Group of the IETF.
>
> Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN
> Author(s) : Simon Delord
> Frederic Jounay
> Lu Huang
> Zhihua Liu
> Manuel Paul
> Ruediger Kunze
> Nick Del Regno
> Josh Rogers
> Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt
> Pages : 14
> Date : 2012-10-06
>
> Abstract:
> This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet
> Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. It is intended > that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines. >
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt
>
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
>
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/int= ernet-drafts/
>

--_000_69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08CEF1xmbalnx13ciscocom_-- From raymond.key@hotmail.com Tue Oct 9 19:07:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD9C11E80A4 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:07:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sn7TJO9mmGLN for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snt0-omc4-s43.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s43.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.51.94]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CD311E80A3 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SNT123-W35 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s43.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:07:38 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_46606afc-3501-4f8d-ae4a-a53efaed6003_" X-Originating-IP: [112.97.24.71] From: Raymond Key Sender: To: , Subject: RE: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:07:39 +1100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08CEF1@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> References: , <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08CEF1@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2012 02:07:38.0927 (UTC) FILETIME=[05F643F0:01CDA68C] X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:07:41 -0000 --_46606afc-3501-4f8d-ae4a-a53efaed6003_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ali=2C Good suggestion. I will make the change in next version. Thanks=2C Raymond From: sajassi@cisco.com To: raymond.key@ieee.org=3B lucy.yong@huawei.com=3B l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: Re: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Date: Tue=2C 9 Oct 2012 19:03:37 +0000 Raymond=2C Thanks for updating the draft. May I suggest the following minor changes: Abstract: From: "This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN." To: "This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in multipoint L2VPN solutions (r= eferred to as simply L2VPN)." Introduction=2C 1st para: same change as in Abstract The reason for adding the keyword "multipoint" is to differentiate VPLS and= E-VPN solutions from VPWS solution. All three of them are L2VPN solutions = but E-TREE requirements applies to the former two. Cheers=2C Ali From: Raymond Key Date: Tuesday=2C October 9=2C 2012 5:56 AM To: "lucy.yong@huawei.com" =2C "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: RE: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Thanks Lucy. As this draft is not intended to define E-VPN=2C I simply use the wording i= n the working group charter to describe E-VPN in section 2.2. Hope this ser= ve the purpose. Raymond =20 From: lucy.yong@huawei.com To: raymond.key@ieee.org=3B=20 l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Date: Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 21:57:52 +0000 Raymond=2C =20 IMO: E-VPN provides a l2 VPN service=2C but it does not only emulate an Et= hernet LAN or VLAN across a PSN. E-VPN can provide some features that LAN or VLAN can not achieve today. For example=2C the ability to construct= different topologies in one E-VPN instance. =20 Having said that=2C EVPN is very similarity to L3 VPN=2C but is at L2 basis= . =20 Lucy =20 From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Key Sent: Saturday=2C October 06=2C 2012 9:16 PM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 =20 Hi L2VPN working group=2C =20 I have updated the captioned draft. The document is now referring to L2VPN= rather than specific to VPLS=2C so that it can be used as guideline for bo= th VPLS and E-VPN. Please review and feedback on the mailing list. =20 Thanks=2C Raymond Key =20 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Date: Sat=2C 6 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700 > CC: l2vpn@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working= Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN > Author(s) : Simon Delord > Frederic Jounay > Lu Huang > Zhihua Liu > Manuel Paul > Ruediger Kunze > Nick Del Regno > Josh Rogers > Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Pages : 14 > Date : 2012-10-06 >=20 > Abstract: > This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet > Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. It is intended > that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 >=20 >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 = --_46606afc-3501-4f8d-ae4a-a53efaed6003_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ali=2C
Good suggestion. I = will make the change in next version.
Thanks=2C
Raymond

Fr= om:=3B sajassi@cisco.com
To:=3B raymond.key@ieee.org=3B lucy.yong@= huawei.com=3B l2vpn@ietf.org
Subject:=3B Re:=3B Comment on draft-= ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
Date:=3B Tue=2C 9 Oct 2012 19:=3B03:= =3B37 +0000


Raymond=2C

Thanks for updating the draft. May I suggest the following minor chang= es:=3B

Abstract:=3B
From:=3B  =3B"=3BThis document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tre= e (E-Tree) support in L2VPN."=3B
To:=3B  =3B"=3B= This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tre= e (E-Tree) support in multipoint L2VPN solutions (referred to as simply L2V= PN)."=3B

Introduction=2C 1st para:=3B same change as in Abstract

The reason for adding the keyword "=3Bmultipoint"=3B is to dif= ferentiate VPLS and E-VPN solutions from VPWS solution. All three of them a= re L2VPN solutions but E-TREE requirements applies to the former two.

Cheers=2C
Ali

From:=3B Raymond Key <= =3Braymond.key@ieee.org&g= t=3B
Date:=3B Tuesday=2C Octobe= r 9=2C 2012 5:=3B56 AM
To:=3B "=3Blucy.yong@huawei.com"=3B <=3B<= a href=3D"mailto:=3Blucy.yong@huawei.com">lucy.yong@huawei.com>=3B= =2C "=3Bl2vpn@ietf.org"= =3B <=3Bl2vpn@ietf.org>=3B<= br> Subject:=3B RE:=3B Comm= ent on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02

Thanks Lucy.
As this draft is not intended to define E-VPN=2C I simply =3Buse the wo= rding in the working group charter to describe E-VPN in section 2.2. Hope t= his serve the purpose.
Raymond
 =3B
From:=3B lucy.yong@huawei.= com
To:=3B raymond.key@ieee.or= g=3B l2vpn@ietf.org
Subject:=3B Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
Date:=3B Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 21:=3B57:=3B52 +0000

Raymond=2C

 =3B

IMO:=3B&n= bsp=3B E-VPN provides a l2 VPN service=2C but it does not only emulate an E= thernet LAN or VLAN across a PSN. E-VPN can provide some features that LAN or VLAN can not achieve today. For example=2C the ability to construct= different topologies in one E-VPN instance.

 =3B

Having said = that=2C EVPN is very similarity to L3 VPN=2C but is at L2 basis.

 =3B

Lucy<= /p>

 =3B

From:=3B l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:=3Bl2vpn-bounces= @ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Key
Sent:=3B Saturday=2C October 06=2C 2012 9:=3B16 PM
To:=3B l2vpn@ietf.org=
Subject:=3B draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02

 =3B

Hi L2VPN working group=2C
 =3B
I have updated the =3Bcaptioned =3Bdraft. =3B The document = =3Bis now referring to L2VPN rather than specific to VPLS=2C so that it can= be used as guideline for both VPLS and E-VPN. Please review =3Band fee= dback on the mailing list.
 =3B
Thanks=2C
Raymond Key
 =3B

>=3B From:=3B internet-drafts@ietf.org<= /a>
>=3B To:=3B i-d-announc= e@ietf.org
>=3B Subject:=3B I-D Action:=3B draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt<= br> >=3B Date:=3B Sat=2C 6 Oct 2012 18:=3B29:=3B51 -0700
>=3B CC:=3B l2vpn@ietf.org=
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts d= irectories.
>=3B This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Wo= rking Group of the IETF.
>=3B
>=3B Title :=3B Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN
>=3B Author(s) :=3B Simon Delord
>=3B Frederic Jounay
>=3B Lu Huang
>=3B Zhihua Liu
>=3B Manuel Paul
>=3B Ruediger Kunze
>=3B Nick Del Regno
>=3B Josh Rogers
>=3B Filename :=3B draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt
>=3B Pages :=3B 14
>=3B Date :=3B 2012-10-06
>=3B
>=3B Abstract:=3B
>=3B This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet >=3B Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. It is intended<= br> >=3B that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines.<= br> >=3B
>=3B
>=3B The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:=3B
>=3B https:=3B//datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-i= etf-l2vpn-etree-reqt
>=3B
>=3B There's also a htmlized version available at:=3B
>=3B http:=3B//tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn= -etree-reqt-02
>=3B
>=3B A diff from the previous version is available at:=3B
>=3B http:=3B//www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3D= draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:=3B
>=3B ftp:=3B//ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>=3B

= --_46606afc-3501-4f8d-ae4a-a53efaed6003_-- From daniel.cohn.ietf@gmail.com Thu Oct 11 00:16:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFEE21F85A2 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:16:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OrxcV7ZmMjyI for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D1521F85F4 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 9so2866176iec.31 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:16:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OMzLYlsrWfOe2r9PTOhyUWuiz1rUdzAiWLBzsOhRQuc=; b=rwkl5xTxPm8uE6vF0ApUW87GjKRIG8DkPTBzKfllrsvIQPf8yaOnnrOXUHHFlzbcDW Y2fi5ypRgay5SZSnxndzPBsFdrHFR/n/qv59lJ6ixUv3eMp9PhwF0f5Kch6PLgCBArxN ZL3Z5zBAEMEithvhcuA7TPt/iIWDHJmm4RR2eGSsyM6hkpiVWLcDEKFzZqPjq8WgmpLk Kbf+Fq4EELyMpXlN2CSlKZQnUZKkO1LsEwwsCWmYlY8xhCNkzVH3LXmxdWq5qxeDRJ9P juk0lrmpStPGqT5VIewVEgRtLAHh/jtsh1izJRQCyy99dmyaMm6xWLKtRdE/ZZyKsY7E 1vyg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.13.195 with SMTP id pn3mr20711522icb.47.1349939804898; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.207.40 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:16:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:16:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 From: Daniel Cohn To: Giles Heron Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5186d688a065a04cbc35afc Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:16:53 -0000 --bcaec5186d688a065a04cbc35afc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Support On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Giles Heron wrote: > This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 > > should be adopted as an L2VPN WG draft. > > Please review the draft and respond to the list by Tuesday October 16th > with comments as to its suitability for WG adoption. > > Nabil & Giles --bcaec5186d688a065a04cbc35afc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Support

On Tue, Oct 2, 2= 012 at 1:19 PM, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrot= e:
This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vp= ls-inter-domain-redundancy-04

should be adopted as an L2VPN WG draft.

Please review the draft and respond to the list by Tuesday October 16th wit= h comments as to its suitability for WG adoption.

Nabil & Giles

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Regards, Samer On 12-10-02 4:19 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 > >should be adopted as an L2VPN WG draft. > >Please review the draft and respond to the list by Tuesday October 16th >with comments as to its suitability for WG adoption. > >Nabil & Giles From sajassi@cisco.com Thu Oct 11 11:42:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4992E1F0429 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:42:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yyUOTJ-S37G4 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665D821F86C1 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:42:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3375; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1349980941; x=1351190541; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: mime-version; bh=0f4ezUQZLNcVSpxXAvLwji081l/SMBXCIgDDWsSyrcU=; b=WnXQspNzwmQ5GwmbGQkjSNQ1bm6P9/PlUuhztzIMaF4WLrfgxAn9VAMT Bxndy7UUzEecacn/o5skaN086veD7pyxP+Kcl8Fvo4XOdrp+JUupfCSor f2Q+bKvwsihsMGhJZIgXeZJ/feN3LkeQArYVDm5DB5nJwM0J477pxf6ao w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAAASd1CtJXG+/2dsb2JhbABEgksjtAwBiFqBCIIgAQEBAwESAQpcBQ0BCAQNAwECC1YdCAIEDg0ah1ADCQYBCplVlk4NiVSLR4VAYAOXAo0wgWuCbYIX X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,573,1344211200"; d="scan'208,217";a="130734035" Received: from rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com ([173.37.113.190]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Oct 2012 18:42:21 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com [173.37.183.86]) by rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9BIgKBU020569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:42:20 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com ([173.37.183.86]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:42:20 -0500 From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" To: Giles Heron Subject: Re: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 Thread-Topic: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 Thread-Index: AQHNp+AkV05at2v5EUCpjzQpLvv3kg== Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:42:19 +0000 Message-ID: <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08DC9D@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <2012100912025182848213@qq.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.1.120420 x-originating-ip: [128.107.166.84] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19262.000 x-tm-as-result: No--32.000200-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08DC9Dxmbalnx13ciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: l2vpn X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:42:22 -0000 --_000_69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08DC9Dxmbalnx13ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support. > > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:19:10 +0100 > From: Giles Heron > To: "l2vpn at ietf.org" > Subject: WG Adoption call for > draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii > > This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-0= 4 > > should be adopted as an L2VPN WG draft. > > Please review the draft and respond to the list by Tuesday October > 16th with comments as to its suitability for WG adoption. > > Nabil & Giles ________________________________ --_000_69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08DC9Dxmbalnx13ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5CE0A680F1A37F43A92D190C8B6D7026@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support.=
 
>
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:19:10 = ;+0100
> From: Giles Heron <giles.heron at&nbs= p;gmail.com>
> To: "l2vpn at ietf.org" <l2= vpn at ietf.org>
> Subject: WG Adoption call for
>    draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundan= cy-04
> Message-ID: <C3C456C5-4384-48CD-9D11-531295F801BA&nb= sp;at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
> 
> This is a request to gauge con= sensus as to whether:
> 
> 
> should be adopted as an L2VPN = WG draft.
> 
> Please review the draft and respond=  to the list by Tuesday October 
> 16th with comments as to its s= uitability for WG adoption.
> 
> Nabil & Giles
 
 --_000_69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08DC9Dxmbalnx13ciscocom_-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sat Oct 13 08:23:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B395121F85A0; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:23:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, FUZZY_VLIUM=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gshL-FNKkbfP; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB8621F85A3; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:23:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-03.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121013152319.1807.58654.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:23:19 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 15:23:19 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN Author(s) : Simon Delord Frederic Jounay Lu Huang Zhihua Liu Manuel Paul Ruediger Kunze Nick Del Regno Josh Rogers Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-03.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2012-10-13 Abstract: This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in multipoint L2VPN solutions (referred to as simply L2VPN). It is intended that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-03 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From raymond.key@hotmail.com Sat Oct 13 18:03:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037EB21F843A for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:03:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RR-sNR1KbtD0 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snt0-omc4-s2.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s2.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.205]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99DA21F8437 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SNT123-W13 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s2.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:03:39 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a6ff6047-2bf1-4d6f-8d88-611b0434b242_" X-Originating-IP: [113.92.100.41] From: Raymond Key Sender: To: Subject: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-03 Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:03:40 +1100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08CEF1@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> References: , <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B08CEF1@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2012 01:03:39.0990 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF6DF760:01CDA9A7] X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:03:42 -0000 --_a6ff6047-2bf1-4d6f-8d88-611b0434b242_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi L2VPN working group=2CFollowing Ali's feedback=2C I have updated the dra= ft to 03-version.http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-03T= hanks=2CRaymond Key=20 From: sajassi@cisco.com To: raymond.key@ieee.org=3B lucy.yong@huawei.com=3B l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: Re: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Date: Tue=2C 9 Oct 2012 19:03:37 +0000 Raymond=2C Thanks for updating the draft. May I suggest the following minor changes: Abstract: From: "This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN." To: "This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in multipoint L2VPN solutions (r= eferred to as simply L2VPN)." Introduction=2C 1st para: same change as in Abstract The reason for adding the keyword "multipoint" is to differentiate VPLS and= E-VPN solutions from VPWS solution. All three of them are L2VPN solutions = but E-TREE requirements applies to the former two. Cheers=2C Ali From: Raymond Key Date: Tuesday=2C October 9=2C 2012 5:56 AM To: "lucy.yong@huawei.com" =2C "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: RE: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Thanks Lucy. As this draft is not intended to define E-VPN=2C I simply use the wording i= n the working group charter to describe E-VPN in section 2.2. Hope this ser= ve the purpose. Raymond =20 From: lucy.yong@huawei.com To: raymond.key@ieee.org=3B=20 l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 Date: Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 21:57:52 +0000 Raymond=2C =20 IMO: E-VPN provides a l2 VPN service=2C but it does not only emulate an Et= hernet LAN or VLAN across a PSN. E-VPN can provide some features that LAN or VLAN can not achieve today. For example=2C the ability to construct= different topologies in one E-VPN instance. =20 Having said that=2C EVPN is very similarity to L3 VPN=2C but is at L2 basis= . =20 Lucy =20 From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Key Sent: Saturday=2C October 06=2C 2012 9:16 PM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 =20 Hi L2VPN working group=2C =20 I have updated the captioned draft. The document is now referring to L2VPN= rather than specific to VPLS=2C so that it can be used as guideline for bo= th VPLS and E-VPN. Please review and feedback on the mailing list. =20 Thanks=2C Raymond Key =20 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Date: Sat=2C 6 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700 > CC: l2vpn@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working= Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN > Author(s) : Simon Delord > Frederic Jounay > Lu Huang > Zhihua Liu > Manuel Paul > Ruediger Kunze > Nick Del Regno > Josh Rogers > Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt > Pages : 14 > Date : 2012-10-06 >=20 > Abstract: > This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet > Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. It is intended > that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02 >=20 >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 = --_a6ff6047-2bf1-4d6f-8d88-611b0434b242_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi L2VPN working group=2C
Following Ali's feedback=2C I have updated the= draft to 03-version.
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-= 03
Thanks=2C
Raymond Key =3B

From: sajassi@cisco.com
To: ra= ymond.key@ieee.org=3B lucy.yong@huawei.com=3B l2vpn@ietf.org
Subject: Re= : Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
Date: Tue=2C 9 Oct 2012 19:= 03:37 +0000


Raymond=2C

Thanks for updating the draft. May I suggest the following minor chang= es:

Abstract:
From:  =3B"This document provi= des functional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tre= e) support in L2VPN."
To:  =3B"This document provid= es functional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tre= e) support in multipoint L2VPN solutions (referred to as simply L2VPN)."

Introduction=2C 1st para: same change as in Abstract

The reason for adding the keyword "multipoint" is to differentiate VPL= S and E-VPN solutions from VPWS solution. All three of them are L2VPN solut= ions but E-TREE requirements applies to the former two.

Cheers=2C
Ali

From: Raymond Key <=3Braymond.key@ieee.org>=3B
Date: Tuesday=2C October 9=2C 2= 012 5:56 AM
To: "lucy.yong@huawei.com" <=3Blucy.yong@huawei.com>=3B=2C "l2vpn@ietf.org" <=3Bl2vpn@ietf= .org>=3B
Subject: RE: Comment on draft-i= etf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02

Thanks Lucy.
As this draft is not intended to define E-VPN=2C I simply =3Buse the wo= rding in the working group charter to describe E-VPN in section 2.2. Hope t= his serve the purpose.
Raymond
 =3B
From: lucy.yong@huawei.com
To: raymond.key@ieee.org=3B l2vpn@ietf.org
Subject: Comment on draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02
Date: Mon=2C 8 Oct 2012 21:57:52 +0000

Raymond=2C

 =3B

IMO: =3B E-VPN p= rovides a l2 VPN service=2C but it does not only emulate an Ethernet LAN or= VLAN across a PSN. E-VPN can provide some features that LAN or VLAN can not achieve today. For example=2C the ability to construct= different topologies in one E-VPN instance.

 =3B

Having said that=2C = EVPN is very similarity to L3 VPN=2C but is at L2 basis.

 =3B

Lucy

 =3B

From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Key
Sent: Saturday=2C October 06=2C 2012 9:16 PM
To: l2vpn@ietf.org
Subject: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02

 =3B

Hi L2VPN working group=2C
 =3B
I have updated the =3Bcaptioned =3Bdraft. =3B The document = =3Bis now referring to L2VPN rather than specific to VPLS=2C so that it can= be used as guideline for both VPLS and E-VPN. Please review =3Band fee= dback on the mailing list.
 =3B
Thanks=2C
Raymond Key
 =3B

>=3B From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >=3B To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
>=3B Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt
>=3B Date: Sat=2C 6 Oct 2012 18:29:51 -0700
>=3B CC: l2vpn@ietf.org
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts d= irectories.
>=3B This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Wo= rking Group of the IETF.
>=3B
>=3B Title : Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN
>=3B Author(s) : Simon Delord
>=3B Frederic Jounay
>=3B Lu Huang
>=3B Zhihua Liu
>=3B Manuel Paul
>=3B Ruediger Kunze
>=3B Nick Del Regno
>=3B Josh Rogers
>=3B Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-02.txt
>=3B Pages : 14
>=3B Date : 2012-10-06
>=3B
>=3B Abstract:
>=3B This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet >=3B Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in L2VPN. It is intended<= br> >=3B that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines.<= br> >=3B
>=3B
>=3B The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>=3B https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-et= ree-reqt
>=3B
>=3B There's also a htmlized version available at:
>=3B http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-= 02
>=3B
>=3B A diff from the previous version is available at:
>=3B http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l= 2vpn-etree-reqt-02
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>=3B ft= p://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>=3B

= --_a6ff6047-2bf1-4d6f-8d88-611b0434b242_-- From nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com Fri Oct 19 07:10:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4B421F8B43 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.398 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.398 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.200, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BaAxYBfP2ydQ for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fldsmtpe03.verizon.com (fldsmtpe03.verizon.com [140.108.26.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760C921F8803 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:10:51 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi02.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.144]) by fldsmtpe03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 19 Oct 2012 14:10:40 +0000 From: "Bitar, Nabil N" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,612,1344211200"; d="scan'208,217";a="349751629" Received: from fldp1lumxc7hb02.verizon.com (HELO FLDP1LUMXC7HB02.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.75.85]) by fldsmtpi02.verizon.com with ESMTP; 19 Oct 2012 14:10:31 +0000 Received: from fldp1lumxc7v63.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.45.45]) by FLDP1LUMXC7HB02.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.75.85]) with mapi; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:10:29 -0400 To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:10:13 -0400 Subject: [l2vpn] L2VPN Agenda Slot Call for IETF 85 - Atlanta Thread-Topic: [l2vpn] L2VPN Agenda Slot Call for IETF 85 - Atlanta Thread-Index: Ac2uA34tiDF9GLAbR9OA/M/9fYxXjQ== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.10.0.110310 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CCA68D8F5E52Enabilnbitarverizoncom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Giles Heron X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:10:53 -0000 --_000_CCA68D8F5E52Enabilnbitarverizoncom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, As a eminder, please let us know if you have a time-slot request by Sunday= October 21, 2012. Please, see email below for more details. Thanks, Nabil From: "Bitar, Nabil N" > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:31:54 -0400 To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" > Cc: Giles Heron > Subject: [l2vpn] L2VPN Agenda Slot Call for IETF 85 - Atlanta Hi L2VPN WG. Please let us know if you have a time-slot request for the L2VPN session at= IETF 85=96Atlanta. Please, email us your request by Sunday October 21, 20= 12 along with the following information: 1) Draft title 2) Presenter name 3) Requested duration Please note that priority will be given to drafts that are clearly within t= he scope of the current L2VPN charter. Additional key dates to remember are: 2012-10-15 (Monday): Internet Draft Cut-off for initial document (-00) subm= ission by UTC 24:00 2012-10-22 (Monday): Internet Draft final submission cut-off by UTC 24:00 Thanks, Nabil and Giles --_000_CCA68D8F5E52Enabilnbitarverizoncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
As a eminder, &nb= sp;please let us know if you have a time-slot request by Sunday October 21,= 2012. Please, see email below for more details.

T= hanks,
Nabil

From: "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@one.verizon.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:31:54 -0400
To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vp= n@ietf.org>
Cc: Giles He= ron <giheron@cisco.com>
<= span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: [l2vpn] L2VPN Agenda Slot = Call for IETF 85 - Atlanta


Hi L2VPN WG.
Please let us know if you have a time-slot request for the L2VPN session at= IETF 85=96Atlanta. Please,  email us your request by Sunday October 2= 1, 2012 along with the following information:
1) Draft title
2) Presenter name
3) Requested duration

Please note that priority will be given to drafts that are clearly within t= he scope of the current L2VPN charter.

Additional key dates to remember are:
20= 12-10-15 (Monday): Internet Draft Cut-off for initial document (-0= 0) submission by UTC 24:00
2012-10-22 (Monday): Internet Draft fin= al submission cut-off by UTC 24:00
=

Thanks,
Nabil and Giles
=
--_000_CCA68D8F5E52Enabilnbitarverizoncom_-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Oct 19 14:42:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7063721F87DD; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:42:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.53 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fdsLqisbtY24; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC5521F87E1; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:42:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121019214229.19260.81443.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:42:29 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:42:30 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for Ethernet VPN (E-VPN) Author(s) : Ali Sajassi Rahul Aggarwal Nabil Bitar Aldrin Isaac James Uttaro Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2012-10-19 Abstract: The widespread adoption of Ethernet L2VPN services and the advent of new applications for the technology (e.g. data center interconnect) have culminated in a new set of requirements that are not readily addressable by the current VPLS solution. In particular, multi-homing with all-active forwarding is not supported and there's no existing solution to leverage MP2MP LSPs for optimizing the delivery of multi- destination frames. Furthermore, the provisioning of VPLS, even in the context of BGP-based auto-discovery, requires network operators to specify various network parameters on top of the access configuration. This document specifies the requirements for an Ethernet VPN (E-VPN) solution which addresses the above issues. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From giles.heron@gmail.com Fri Oct 19 15:21:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B034421F882D for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:21:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v-ckaBPLb9gu for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC8821F882B for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id d4so443950eek.31 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:21:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=3/8omix1lr0ZNd0mz55e8Y3wP9ilxCJ2qo8bCGLgb+o=; b=uijejKF0/8XmYwidOJONdge+EBX2Ah0ZgAt7U3NERXJsui84ghTzmso5iXwtqbL7zX U8an7y/fndBRDX+Nx7QM9UGaZa3jAST6GKr99npp+wZBzVnTTEolP8X0smKh3jU4Wkju vLoeWDpLyolWUqcrhjeEC92jQ/ehRcWe8EJkICj9zm3RfEyvJNrRyC56qapqlw9l1Lq4 6GpIgSrKhSjaVAersI/cDMBtaX+XfdvjfTr/5lxxTtxOQPBUVQPC2JgxvH63DBKQ0Kan 4ylt0fo5vsu3aUaFNNfWS1Lxu54H9OwhjkoKXE9obZ6PtAzAuwJGxOjtAcv2u+l3xyh+ ddvQ== Received: by 10.14.173.67 with SMTP id u43mr3794568eel.27.1350685283153; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-10-55-82-49.cisco.com (64-103-25-233.cisco.com. [64.103.25.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o47sm4616507eem.11.2012.10.19.15.21.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: WG Adoption call for draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04 From: Giles Heron In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:21:16 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6A59AF3B-84C9-4C7C-90A8-E648E99B03D6@gmail.com> References: To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:21:24 -0000 we seem to have reasonable consensus behind this draft. authors, please republish as = draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-00. Nabil & Giles On 2 Oct 2012, at 12:19, Giles Heron wrote: > This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: >=20 > = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-04= >=20 > should be adopted as an L2VPN WG draft. >=20 > Please review the draft and respond to the list by Tuesday October = 16th with comments as to its suitability for WG adoption. >=20 > Nabil & Giles From giles.heron@gmail.com Fri Oct 19 15:35:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A6721F8584 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:35:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8M9-Z520zhqR for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC5821F8567 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id d4so445775eek.31 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:34:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :cc:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=pUzjhuq1OUSBlafJINgvXhyOnGuGTbPE5cGQd9VpQSI=; b=mmnk3gGZSwCP34xnSdEOXpxMifagC9Jeki8YyZtHUGPl6ECpX8PMWUcIKNqWaIZ528 JDQ914349rxSsZDvanYcpDJczXi0/6eSvQJL8gaN+bU9TWRdjFzCepHbNDvCzAPftmol eqzxrmO7H84Eh5JJ5nKOs8WIekBsGh3hBR8xYs7RJOZAK1QsIEcftIRtyTo7YGbj6K8W 5Y97WlGFMF7QT3uQ4dwM2c3eRmWv/M+BKr0Tpe+/vUINo1IYOvJnRVwja/DqSEI7YFvo 8kA30EeF+NjJjFvBpoSQky4Q6RFn+FtE0CFQ8gK09uiFuZd2eZyPVhRBv2pXZId8qFGn YJ+g== Received: by 10.14.193.129 with SMTP id k1mr3811362een.13.1350686099731; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-10-55-82-49.cisco.com (64-103-25-233.cisco.com. [64.103.25.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v3sm4659282een.1.2012.10.19.15.34.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:34:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Heron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:34:53 +0100 Message-Id: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:35:01 -0000 This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for = publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:42:12 -0000 Support as co-author. -Ali On 10/19/12 3:34 PM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 > >please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for >publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. > >this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. > >Nabil & Giles=20 > From aldrin.isaac@gmail.com Fri Oct 19 19:00:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627A421F882E for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:00:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.859 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.859 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.739, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZZShrEqSRhwF for ; 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Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:00:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B0900B9@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> References: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B0900B9@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:00:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req From: Aldrin Isaac To: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0f320d6bdda04cc73fae2 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 02:00:10 -0000 --000e0ce0f320d6bdda04cc73fae2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Support. As co-author as well. -- aldrin On Friday, October 19, 2012, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) wrote: > > Support as co-author. > > -Ali > > On 10/19/12 3:34 PM, "Giles Heron" wrote: > > >This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: > > > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 > > > >please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for > >publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. > > > >this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. > > > >Nabil & Giles > > > > --000e0ce0f320d6bdda04cc73fae2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support.=A0

As co-author as well.=A0

-- aldri= n


On Friday, October 19, 2012, Ali Sajassi (sa= jassi) wrote:

Support as co-author.

-Ali

On 10/19/12 3:34 PM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01<= br> >
>please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for
>publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG.
>
>this last call will close on Friday 2nd November.
>
>Nabil & Giles
>

--000e0ce0f320d6bdda04cc73fae2-- From josh.rogers@twcable.com Fri Oct 19 19:02:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C9A21F8834 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:02:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.793 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.793 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.345, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BvJ8-8f8K30W for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdpipgw02.twcable.com (cdpipgw02.twcable.com [165.237.59.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CBF21F882B for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:02:12 -0700 (PDT) X-SENDER-IP: 10.136.163.11 X-SENDER-REPUTATION: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,618,1344225600"; d="scan'208,217";a="437941457" Received: from unknown (HELO PRVPEXHUB02.corp.twcable.com) ([10.136.163.11]) by cdpipgw02.twcable.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 19 Oct 2012 22:01:01 -0400 Received: from PRVPEXVS08.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.37]) by PRVPEXHUB02.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.11]) with mapi; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:02:11 -0400 From: "Rogers, Josh" To: Aldrin Isaac , "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:02:10 -0400 Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Topic: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Index: Ac2uZuqyxZVR6vcSSqSekgV4R83GCQ== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.4.120824 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CCA7703D187B7joshrogerstwcablecom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 02:02:13 -0000 --_000_CCA7703D187B7joshrogerstwcablecom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support. (not as co-author) From: Aldrin Isaac > Date: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:00 PM To: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" > Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" > Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Support. As co-author as well. -- aldrin On Friday, October 19, 2012, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) wrote: Support as co-author. -Ali On 10/19/12 3:34 PM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 > >please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for >publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. > >this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. > >Nabil & Giles > ________________________________ This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the u= se of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the= intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissem= ination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents= of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawf= ul. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender imm= ediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail an= d any printout. --_000_CCA7703D187B7joshrogerstwcablecom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Support.

(not as co-author)

From: Aldrin Isaac <aldrin.isaac@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:00= PM
To: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)&quo= t; <sajassi@cisco.com>
Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2v= pn@ietf.org>
Subject: WG Last Call for draft-iet= f-l2vpn-evpn-req

Support. 

As co-author as well. 

-- aldrin


On Friday, October 19, 2012, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) wrote:

Support as co-author.

-Ali

On 10/19/12 3:34 PM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01<= br> >
>please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for
>publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG.
>
>this last call will close on Friday 2nd November.
>
>Nabil & Giles
>


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Nabil & Giles=20 From senad.ietf@gmail.com Fri Oct 19 20:28:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6BD21F8891 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:28:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oHcqQ5yRLs0l for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EB121F882E for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id fl11so1337810vcb.31 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:28:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=TCk3KGm3cReBLoA2/UyBHxOiHHn3Pe3OAGSQC1YV5dY=; b=PkvdOqGqBZFKEZK2Xwkhs2qya0/g4INstVCU0Zh78i6b4ZAp2Jm4bL0tyxH0XK+R2b PeHE9vLkTOPRavVwSCde5JD5zLwxgZUHy0ytTGhWK2D3YhlqhfFxhXdRSjk7l+aLfoB1 gxFFjbPH6B4Omrq048+V1LVA27J6aXnkJ80a0HD8Rvv4tGOja0CFeuI1HIK2FoDhXi23 ucu/CkTFIMSGFA5yX9VVtIvWfaSD/rlLygrHvmPX4j41wD49wCO86tYwZUEINjgnaJjN GEN6tOAGt8wjETuP3U3rRvMFoAfJIZYcgg23YSM7XX10lsUx+gPir5MkaqTwamsoY/W6 XGQw== Received: by 10.52.29.233 with SMTP id n9mr3323327vdh.30.1350703701442; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.35] (cpe-108-176-151-118.nyc.res.rr.com. [108.176.151.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y7sm3353703vdt.1.2012.10.19.20.28.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT) References: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <9AA8425B-D32E-46DD-B427-6E3DE8DC0551@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: "Senad.palislamovic" Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:28:17 -0400 To: Giles Heron Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 03:28:22 -0000 Support. =20 -senad Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Giles Heron wrote: > This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 >=20 > please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for publica= tion as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. >=20 > this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. >=20 > Nabil & Giles=20 >=20 From wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com Sat Oct 20 01:05:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9992821F878B for ; 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Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:05:21 +0200 From: "Henderickx, Wim (Wim)" To: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" , Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:05:21 +0200 Subject: RE: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Topic: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Index: AQHNrkn/ZEFfqkVErEaUt4SeS8cWk5fBOUOAgACdbzA= Message-ID: <14C7F4F06DB5814AB0DE29716C4F6D6702E1E2B1DF@FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B0900B9@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B0900B9@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> Accept-Language: nl-NL, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.83 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:05:29 -0000 Support as co-author -----Original Message----- From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of A= li Sajassi (sajassi) Sent: zaterdag 20 oktober 2012 2:42 To: Giles Heron; l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Support as co-author. -Ali On 10/19/12 3:34 PM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 > >please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for >publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. > >this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. > >Nabil & Giles=20 > From agmalis@gmail.com Sat Oct 20 06:38:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502BC21F84E4 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:38:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PUQwiau58Usk for ; 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Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:38:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> References: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:38:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req To: Giles Heron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:38:31 -0000 I see a lot of one-word responses on the WG last call. Just from a point of process, this sort of response is more appropriate for a WG adoption poll. WG last call provides a last chance for WG participants to read the draft and provide substantive comments, and also to show the WG chairs that the draft has at least been read. In my case, I've read the draft and believe it includes a good representation of the E-VPN requirements that have been discussed by the WG. My only real comment is that the number of authors is going to have to be brought down to five in order to get it through the IESG and the RFC Editor. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Giles Heron wrote: > This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 > > please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. > > this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. > > Nabil & Giles > From agmalis@gmail.com Sat Oct 20 06:42:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D5D21F8886 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:42:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.532 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.532 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LyhCth-nCrrD for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051E821F849A for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 9so2249745iec.31 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:41:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=kE3xaNBxfGpqjD6Dn4YXh91JSQoALG2jVv40XS/MKDs=; b=f/FYU9mfcEXkM0y1HeU1LaX6YWEfqyYWj3VU9LlWMpqkBTkyKNUmCh4GM+0mVu8OXt rKAfBSVpv0FgSxRxdZwr1lkmK/RB8Jjc6VY3fKQ9eRF7hNpyo4p1w0Gsd78gcaKn140m Zk42naH3MQNEl5kmzg07BtYupucIN+itHfNYEoodQ2Y+wzuNOS6fNXIR1r71KqkDQIHz kLPL3MqgheUvY3Ue/CyujJlXM4u2NgTaFVimHXzmJGGw+o0mnZWJpUhWhdPzNzk6Pk26 QBwKlq65Ye/GkgT79lE3CJIq2ypD9RfGkacYtu6CMZNtWilTMYut8dkUWrPeztNJmm1H ECYw== Received: by 10.50.91.169 with SMTP id cf9mr11415261igb.44.1350740518434; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:41:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.35.195 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:41:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:41:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req To: Giles Heron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:42:01 -0000 Actually, I do have one more comment I forgot to include in my earlier email. The draft header says "Standards Track", but requirements RFCs are typically Informational rather than Standards Track. This can be discussed between the WG chairs and the ADs. Cheers, Andy On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > I see a lot of one-word responses on the WG last call. Just from a > point of process, this sort of response is more appropriate for a WG > adoption poll. WG last call provides a last chance for WG participants > to read the draft and provide substantive comments, and also to show > the WG chairs that the draft has at least been read. > > In my case, I've read the draft and believe it includes a good > representation of the E-VPN requirements that have been discussed by > the WG. My only real comment is that the number of authors is going to > have to be brought down to five in order to get it through the IESG > and the RFC Editor. > > Cheers, > Andy > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Giles Heron wrote: >> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 >> >> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. >> >> this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. >> >> Nabil & Giles >> From bedard.phil@gmail.com Sat Oct 20 10:59:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A31821F8470 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:59:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cyYDRXkcTbEi for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com (mail-pa0-f44.google.com [209.85.220.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0B421F89D8 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fb11so1082772pad.31 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:59:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tMaEGAz7kkCtJk94brC5hls55WXBGH1+kf3z+SZLOWs=; b=sRqO8Snzgs04KOgpTyfdaoQBjOC5rzYK5hdRlfLfK8qULGHLTdU/kdYn2gGHjpPVVe aGxcOmmbOUmHxlJGy7UW3lt+gB96DeCgNkVPPLu8V9PVmd8ILjFNUkX46W2OCLwI0ath xOgDIop1MzitUqKgMu3Qb3AYvcAobuSrf9CKQn+qkCRCbTHMEKV5WHuqSjsgrDG6ecnh DnZNGHTcqzZTb9mGg6jWAGSIZ2qngDBVQc7voYYEoz0YC4Wexeg81Fl7kptzbtu24S1U YQkANJryfqMrYQIjCjmCNhfs1mfrTBUs0CgIsf2IloPrWciypuSwuoMr65sC+R/u42Vn dhNw== Received: by 10.68.227.162 with SMTP id sb2mr17440453pbc.4.1350755955583; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.5.175] (ip-64-134-191-169.public.wayport.net. [64.134.191.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id lb3sm3122895pbc.73.2012.10.20.10.59.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:59:14 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.4.120824 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:59:10 -0400 Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req From: Phil Bedard To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req In-Reply-To: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:59:16 -0000 I support the document but found one error: In 4.2 there is a reference to "Section 3.1" which should be "Section 4.1." Phil On 10/19/12 6:34 PM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 > >please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for >publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. > >this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. > >Nabil & Giles > From jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com Sat Oct 20 12:28:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F97221F8936 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:28:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KReDXxh7Xcu5 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F4621F8998 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id q9KJUgQV030541; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 14:30:43 -0500 Received: from EUSAAHC004.ericsson.se (147.117.188.84) by eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se (147.117.20.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.279.1; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:28:10 -0400 Received: from EUSAAMB109.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.126]) by EUSAAHC004.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.84]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:28:10 -0400 From: Jeff Tantsura To: Giles Heron Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Topic: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Index: Ac2uSf42oyRlF9qHROCMlodm3JxN9QA0JP0A Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:28:09 +0000 Message-ID: References: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5D94E39347BB9E4CAB87667C0EABD6B3@ericsson.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:28:18 -0000 Yes/support Regards, Jeff On Oct 19, 2012, at 15:35, "Giles Heron" wrote: > This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 >=20 > please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for public= ation as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. >=20 > this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. >=20 > Nabil & Giles=20 >=20 From luayjalil@gmail.com Sun Oct 21 12:55:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEB621F887A for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:55:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EarpUDEI6R1H for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C8821F8914 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id v19so2254379obq.31 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:55:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=reply-to:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=P5aUbgga3ouDojsGRsTz0J9dwr8g5X1rkhJZVv+KsS8=; b=cWNE89+mRjHBWWQca57MjotLJV92KFKpVJwn04GU2FqCJZ1nEWbCLesSOvFNY1nR4y Xjh6BoDSXHDNWRsQXSGarFDopdZW+DPzFkQsTreg5bExIaWsmYihuboisw7nKlFiK+N2 SBbU6OcLaUhDkDGkwEor8nxqzpclJ62IELzVlOyEbvJXG0XQjnGA4uMYKYEIK69JuJmt 6+7xaj3Ij72JJkzaFHgWchjNZ8m9VzNymBw7kn17V4hZyBVT5mdQRjnOO7LAfMk+zW5c gVF+Z1SnCOv0UCcwaQ0OTiSzLGweMQUGysxG/gY3+Omup+OursliHI5F6Xzm9fy+O9Lr CBpQ== Received: by 10.60.171.164 with SMTP id av4mr6426797oec.59.1350849324624; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Xlr8r (76-204-212-98.lightspeed.allntx.sbcglobal.net. [76.204.212.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fw9sm7912665obc.19.2012.10.21.12.55.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:55:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Luay Jalil" To: "'Giles Heron'" , References: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> Subject: RE: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:55:22 -0500 Message-ID: <010b01cdafc6$020b41d0$0621c570$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2uSf1ahJ4kzjeoTaaYODFZ3P2pTgBeyaLQ Content-Language: en-us X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: luayjalil@gmail.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:55:25 -0000 Support This draft does a good job in representing the requirements for an E-VPN solution to address many challenges/issues with the current Ethernet L2VPN solutions Regards, Luay -----Original Message----- From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Giles Heron Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 5:35 PM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. Nabil & Giles From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Oct 21 22:34:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A19721F8A7A; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:34:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PKQx2Ig1PiAD; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F6F21F8A3D; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:34:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-04.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121022053449.27428.65174.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:34:49 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 05:34:50 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : BGP based Multi-homing in Virtual Private LAN Service Author(s) : Bhupesh Kothari Kireeti Kompella Wim Henderickx Florin Balus Senad Palislamovic James Uttaro Wen Lin Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-04.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2012-10-21 Abstract: Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) is a Layer 2 Virtual Private Network (VPN) that gives its customers the appearance that their sites are connected via a Local Area Network (LAN). It is often required for the Service Provider (SP) to give the customer redundant connectivity to some sites, often called "multi-homing". This memo shows how BGP-based multi-homing can be offered in the context of LDP and BGP VPLS solutions. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-04 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Oct 22 01:38:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F3121F85B8; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 01:38:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.529 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.529 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iPuSbv-01tKZ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 01:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC8F21F8431; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 01:38:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpms-frmwk-requirements-05.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121022083802.650.71667.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 01:38:02 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:38:03 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Framework and Requirements for Virtual Private Multicast= Service (VPMS) Author(s) : Yuji Kamite Frederic Jounay Ben Niven-Jenkins Deborah Brungard Lizhong Jin Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpms-frmwk-requirements-05.txt Pages : 27 Date : 2012-10-22 Abstract: This document provides a framework and service level requirements for Virtual Private Multicast Service (VPMS). VPMS is defined as a Layer 2 VPN service that provides point-to-multipoint connectivity for a variety of Layer 2 link layers across an IP or MPLS-enabled PSN. This document outlines architectural service models of VPMS and states generic and high level requirements. This is intended to aid in developing protocols and mechanisms to support VPMS. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpms-frmwk-requirements There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpms-frmwk-requirements-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-vpms-frmwk-requirements= -05 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From giles.heron@gmail.com Mon Oct 22 08:03:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E08B21F8C39 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dHuIGKHs+dmn for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ea0-f172.google.com (mail-ea0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7168321F8C36 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id k13so1002367eaa.31 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=YMF0CsPxSkfYEICaUAvTkh+XJa2IBdm/GE5JoTXQxr8=; b=vAITqYUEFuCdoJSpdprwX0vrGCiHwOzklUyUb+GCBI/IRuICvHGYiB38vUBwMU5Z8f 2EHRO+xUfoDmFDVBsudB0MWubltAFeU2jVn9WOlwSojYgQAgpPujLRD6HOH+UrgSlupo KQE97O8SteiwP8a4CnrPAeNvnwnOWMbW3duHXOSy4WhGRqXmBLPv3P/9LPcR2pPUYmuC zNNc5cDucnoYpW8cs5HA4TfJyfCqIOUAYqmfIvnZ7rQW7EG4aD19PeRZT7xLgavQjsZK 3WCdweiug5P5pSTswqryPciqiStsT1rCTUvPbErQhRTwbCZ+WeLpB4CksPBj/64i6Zzq zzHg== Received: by 10.14.184.1 with SMTP id r1mr12359052eem.4.1350918181681; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-10-61-97-66.cisco.com (64-103-25-233.cisco.com. [64.103.25.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c6sm16425648eep.17.2012.10.22.08.02.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req From: Giles Heron In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:02:54 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0C667C42-E2BD-4FBE-9C42-67C03372A278@gmail.com> References: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> To: Andrew G. Malis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:03:03 -0000 Thanks Andy - good comment. so yes, it'd be great to see more substantive comments than "support" or = "+1" point taken re the number of authors. It might be the authors can agree = amongst themselves who to put at the top as an editor and who to list = further down the document... Giles On 20 Oct 2012, at 14:38, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > I see a lot of one-word responses on the WG last call. Just from a > point of process, this sort of response is more appropriate for a WG > adoption poll. WG last call provides a last chance for WG participants > to read the draft and provide substantive comments, and also to show > the WG chairs that the draft has at least been read. >=20 > In my case, I've read the draft and believe it includes a good > representation of the E-VPN requirements that have been discussed by > the WG. My only real comment is that the number of authors is going to > have to be brought down to five in order to get it through the IESG > and the RFC Editor. >=20 > Cheers, > Andy >=20 > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Giles Heron = wrote: >> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >>=20 >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 >>=20 >> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for = publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. >>=20 >> this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. >>=20 >> Nabil & Giles >>=20 From giles.heron@gmail.com Mon Oct 22 08:03:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1438E21F8C4D for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W+6Ep+y5lOo3 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ea0-f172.google.com (mail-ea0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4482321F8C4C for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id k13so1002367eaa.31 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Sg8xb3dSELhGjUDLomxdUzrT+2iYUrg4W6Ls9EbbCac=; b=MqQ9GrzGvcCRMxZamgCZRGo5OEKsnRjx8DFMrEV6LMccn7oyv0lt4gZ1EDFxav9Hm/ ZiUwLUY/90WtYHblCSqzGrk/df3gIWsjpGA6ZZGu8vhyzDzmGlFyLPUYUNI8fuR3PraO 3qofAjvI4TnOuiN7ZQ1N3d0H8UMBqjntz7lhUNejHZL8qJPDpo48vDrXCKzMzco08XI7 TgAUGWHN5WFuSHAnDu177aQKKVfyuX/XYylitI/o16PyKrxsGkcDKYTcLga78j4EGWEy sFp8j89HZ7XZG81ZCFGwAYP8fKu1yhW0SrzQoHMdi2OREKZb/2WFWGdFZgqsaHoEbl5C n4Tg== Received: by 10.14.223.4 with SMTP id u4mr12410625eep.19.1350918200983; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-10-61-97-66.cisco.com (64-103-25-233.cisco.com. [64.103.25.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c6sm16425648eep.17.2012.10.22.08.03.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req From: Giles Heron In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:03:14 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8D729E53-0349-411B-BD72-EA48C7CB45AE@gmail.com> References: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> To: Andrew G. Malis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:03:22 -0000 Ah, good catch. I'll follow that up with the ADs. Giles On 20 Oct 2012, at 14:41, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > Actually, I do have one more comment I forgot to include in my earlier > email. The draft header says "Standards Track", but requirements RFCs > are typically Informational rather than Standards Track. This can be > discussed between the WG chairs and the ADs. >=20 > Cheers, > Andy >=20 > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Andrew G. Malis = wrote: >> I see a lot of one-word responses on the WG last call. Just from a >> point of process, this sort of response is more appropriate for a WG >> adoption poll. WG last call provides a last chance for WG = participants >> to read the draft and provide substantive comments, and also to show >> the WG chairs that the draft has at least been read. >>=20 >> In my case, I've read the draft and believe it includes a good >> representation of the E-VPN requirements that have been discussed by >> the WG. My only real comment is that the number of authors is going = to >> have to be brought down to five in order to get it through the IESG >> and the RFC Editor. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Andy >>=20 >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Giles Heron = wrote: >>> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >>>=20 >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 >>>=20 >>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for = publication as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. >>>=20 >>> this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. >>>=20 >>> Nabil & Giles >>>=20 From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Oct 22 14:50:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E7E21F88BF; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:50:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dB5ru3T9xddb; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1B721F88C1; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:50:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-02.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121022215045.28456.72202.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:50:45 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:50:46 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : BGP MPLS Based Ethernet VPN Author(s) : Ali Sajassi Rahul Aggarwal Wim Henderickx Florin Balus Aldrin Isaac James Uttaro Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-02.txt Pages : 44 Date : 2012-10-22 Abstract: This document describes procedures for BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPNs (E-VPN). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Oct 22 15:55:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E84711E80DE; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:55:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.561 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.561 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01LwQQtfqLmN; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C46711E80DF; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:55:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-pe-model-06.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121022225510.25258.51671.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:55:10 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:55:11 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Extensions to VPLS PE model for Provider Backbone Bridgi= ng Author(s) : Florin Balus Ali Sajassi Nabil Bitar Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-pe-model-06.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2012-10-22 Abstract: IEEE 802.1ah standard [IEEE802.1ah], also known as Provider Backbone Bridges (PBB) defines an architecture and bridge protocols for interconnection of multiple Provider Bridge Networks (PBNs). PBB was defined in IEEE as a connectionless technology based on multipoint VLAN tunnels. MSTP is used as the core control plane for loop avoidance and load balancing. As a result, the coverage of the solution is limited by STP scale in the core of large service provider networks. PBB on the other hand can be used to attain better scalability in terms of number of customer MAC addresses and number of service instances that can be supported. Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) [RFC4664] provides a framework for extending Ethernet LAN services, using MPLS tunneling capabilities, through a routed MPLS backbone without running (M)STP across the backbone. As a result, VPLS has been deployed on a large scale in service provider networks. This draft discusses extensions to the VPLS PE model required to incorporate desirable PBB components while maintaining the Service Provider fit of the initial model. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-pe-model There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-pe-model-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-pe-model-06 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From giles.heron@gmail.com Tue Oct 23 10:13:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B9711E80F0 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:13:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ejpspxMv3gsm for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ea0-f172.google.com (mail-ea0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0229B11E80F3 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id k13so1452103eaa.31 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:13:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :cc:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=OZZpRoLgYUxGlmeznBEzUjTqOFX3N6lET10zuhtkKa4=; b=AGVwhVhvJ1LSOPst/GjkUZ3S/C684/oS74XA0fNqhZGTe86r+BZVJCiZ5iaxmFqqo+ H/aomLi8mFDc49iCAzYOsa4LZAKoZ/ihmneDAubA5guVlYbTEMcEn/x9lLbjhh8Oa4e9 /FhLC5HgVLTT1HmGpKn8GZR35471UW+bgxAr6a0zPNUZ2HFPhENxA+tq0DLUNcdcT/hN DUSOe99oKXVvutP0X8JuzMRJYG5bI4/m62blXVeJUpv/3lxVhn0gEBA4nz1xkXsvYKra t9grt1L4UPNHZKxZRj9zfH68kaWJ9thIEpy32SFKwWYthb+R3aJyU8AIucmmXy1nsbYE KRjg== Received: by 10.14.172.195 with SMTP id t43mr18013106eel.17.1351012437201; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-144-254-148-173.cisco.com (dhcp-144-254-148-173.cisco.com. [144.254.148.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z43sm21814099een.16.2012.10.23.10.13.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:13:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Heron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: draft agenda for L2VPN at IETF85 uploaded Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:13:45 +0100 Message-Id: <0BE742F5-9855-45A5-BA13-E83C05847AB0@gmail.com> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:13:58 -0000 Hi all, we've now uploaded the draft agenda for the L2VPN meeting at IETF85: http://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda/l2vpn/ If you requested a slot then do please review the agenda to check that = you're on it! If you are on the agenda then now would be a good time to start thinking = about how you want to use your slot. We'd really like to see the time = used to discuss outstanding issues with drafts rather than to present = the drafts. Of course that implies that those of us in the room, or = attending remotely, have actually read the drafts - so now would be a = good time for all of us to catch up on reading the various drafts on the = agenda. thanks Nabil & Giles= From jiangyuanlong@huawei.com Fri Oct 26 19:19:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96C721F86AB for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:19:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MSDgO1r9f9Wq for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3D221F86A9 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml203-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AMC24567; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:19:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML402-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) by lhreml203-edg.huawei.com (172.18.7.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:18:42 +0100 Received: from SZXEML434-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.72.61.62) by lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:18:59 +0100 Received: from SZXEML546-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.157]) by szxeml434-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.72.61.62]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:18:46 +0800 From: Jiangyuanlong To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: RE: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Topic: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Index: AQHNs+lkV4LAWIKrW0iRSTYU1PDg1g== Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:18:46 +0000 Message-ID: <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B1D482286@szxeml546-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.77.63] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:19:02 -0000 Hi authors of draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 and all, I had a review of this document, and believe that some issues still need to= be resolved. Some technical comments: 1. In Section 4.1, it says: "....This being the case, the first requirement for active/active multi-homing is the ability to accommodate flexible flow-based load-balancing from the CE node based on L2, L3 and/or L4 header fields. A solution MUST be capable of supporting flexible flow-based load balancing from the CE as described above." =20 I am not sure the current E-VPN framework can support CE load-balancing bas= ed on L3 and/or L4 header fields. For example, if the frames with the same = MAC address are load-balanced on multiple PEs in a multi-homed group, the r= emote PEs need to support sub-MAC flow-based forwarding, furthermore, BGP s= ignaling also needs substantial extensions to support it. All these will po= se a great challenge to EVPN. 2. At the end of Section 4.4, it says: " A multi-homed group (also known as a multi-chassis LACP group) is a group of PEs supporting a multi-homed CE. " and in Section 4.5, it says: " In order to simplify service provisioning and activation, the multi- homing mechanism SHOULD allow arbitrary grouping of PE nodes into redundancy groups where each redundancy group represents all multi- homed groups that share the same group of PEs. This is best explained with an example: consider three PE nodes - PE1, PE2 and PE3.=20 " It seems a formal definition of redundancy group is needed (IMO, "each redu= ndancy group represents all multi-homed groups that share the same group of= PEs" is a little confusing), and multi-homed group is also not clearly def= ined IMO (it seems a specific PE should be designated as DF in multi-homed = group while redundancy group is just a set of PEs according to the EVPN fra= mework). =20 =20 3. At the end of Section 6, it says: " - Implementations SHOULD revert to using default values for parameters as and where applicable. " It seems like a rule of thumb to use some default values for any implementa= tion or protocol design, do we really need to list this as an EVPN requirem= ent? 4. In Section 10, it says: " A solution MUST be capable of supporting flexible VPN topologies that are not constrained by the underlying mechanisms of the solution.=20 " Not sure how can we determine the fulfillment of this mandatory requirement= ? 5. In Section 11, it says: " For scenarios where MAC learning is performed in data-plane, there are no additional security aspects beyond those considered in [RFC4761] and [RFC4762]. And for scenarios where MAC learning is performed in control plane (via BGP), there are no additional security aspects beyond those considered in [RFC4364]. " However, there is no description of "MAC learning" in the requirement doc, = so why it is discussed in the security section? It is proposed either we re= move these discussions, or refer to draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn in the first plac= e (where it dwells in). Some minor comments: 1. Section 2, s/for e.g./e.g.,/ 2. At the end of Section 2, all the section numbers referred to are in diso= rder. 3. Section 3, the Terminology section is in a mess, and re-formatting is ne= eded. 4. Section 4.1, s/IGP ECMP paths/ECMP paths/, as E-VPN may well cross multi= -AS. 5. Section 4.2,=20 s/For instance/For instance,/ 6. Section 4.2,=20 s/between those LSPs/among those LSPs/ 7. In Section 4.2, it says: "Similarly if LDP is being used as the transport LSP protocol, then the solution MUST be able to leverage LDP ECMP capabilities." 1) s/transport LSP protocol/signaling protocol for transport LSPs/ 2) s/leverage LDP ECMP capabilities/leverage those LDP signaled equal cost = LSPs/, since "LDP ECMP capabilities" are somewhat ambiguous. 8. In Section 4.2, it says: "The solution MUST also be able to leverage work in the MPLS WG that is in progress to improve the load balancing capabilities of the network based on entropy labels." =09 It seems a reference to draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label is needed. =20 9. In Section 4.3, s/from cost standpoint/from a cost standpoint/ s/the pair of PEs/multiple PEs/ or s/multi-homed/dual-homed/ =20 10. In Section 4.4, s/multi-chassis LACP group/multi-chassis LAG/, since LACP is only the contr= ol protocol for the LAG. 11. Section 4.6, s/participate in the control/participate in the resiliency/, since G.8032 i= s usually not regarded as a control protocol. 12. Section 5, 1) What is the advantage of MP2MP LSP? Maybe an example or a reference coul= d be provided to justify it. 2) s/uncast/unicast/ 13. Section 6, 1) s/MUST be maintained/MUST be maintained./ 2) s/on the access circuit/for the access circuit/ 14. Section 8, s/the attachment circuit or PE/an attachment circuit or a PE/ 15. Section 9, it says: " ...it is required to minimize the flooding of broadcast frames outside the confines of a given site. Of particular interest is periodic ARP traffic. " Why periodic ARP traffic is of particular interest? it seems to me just an = example. 16. Section 10,=20 s/with other roots/with roots/ 17. Section 13,=20 1) For [802.1Q], it seems IEEE Std 802.1Q-2011 is the latest revision. 2) Two redundant references for [VPLS-MCAST] are included in this section, = it is proposed that the 1st should be removed. Regards, Yuanlong ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:34:53 +0100 From: Giles Heron To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Message-ID: <755C3ABB-ADE3-42EE-8BE1-FBBEDB84BC32@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-01 please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for publicat= ion as a Standards Track RFC from the L2VPN WG. this last call will close on Friday 2nd November. Nabil & Giles=20