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tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.123, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VnptXAWlJv5h; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 08:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A7321F9DCF; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 08:30:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.51.p2 Message-ID: <20130702153002.7565.27027.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 08:30:02 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:30:03 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Multicast in VPLS Author(s) : Rahul Aggarwal Juniper Networks Yuji Kamite Luyuan Fang Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14.txt Pages : 50 Date : 2013-07-02 Abstract: [RFC4761] and [RFC4762] describe a solution for Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) multicast that relies on the use of point-to-point or multipoint-to-point unicast Label Switched Paths (LSPs) for carrying multicast traffic. This solution has certain limitations for certain VPLS multicast traffic profiles. For example, it may result in highly non-optimal bandwidth utilization when large amount of multicast traffic is to be transported. This document describes a solution for overcoming a subset of the limitations of existing VPLS multicast solution. It describes procedures for VPLS multicast that utilize multicast trees in the service provider (SP) network. The solution described in this document allows sharing of one such multicast tree among multiple VPLS instances. Furthermore, the solution described in this document allows a single multicast tree in the SP network to carry traffic belonging only to a specified set of one or more IP multicast streams from one or more VPLS instances. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From giles.heron@gmail.com Wed Jul 3 01:13:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6888F11E8177 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 01:13:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6t+GUHDkQu2Z for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 01:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ea0-x22b.google.com (mail-ea0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::22b]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598FC21F9C77 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 01:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f171.google.com with SMTP id m14so3263524eaj.2 for ; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 01:13:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:date:references:to:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=q1xn4LxI4vlaBqIih9fUHlj2+VCqwBdPCPuUtb3SzbU=; b=mTyxKtdDid1/pe1Lma8MMyt4ZKDH15w+0B1CP8JMUWhajjepy/CbsU5yTw5MhaBfjn nAf+x0Ovf2hI27CbuuBcraLmRjc1iAylCOU3EXcXVw4kkLdMggdgj6kg8bje/0Ni2R4W oYGZUIMHoD2HXrnOt6iT6YdZ3xteC7bMd869M/oX5uM8+w1scG3BI9RRtZUVcjhMHGXW lNDjxBkTW40Lc0REhnnuy7mKBG93qdPPO1JezYx5rtForlxZALRQZKVjoTHHwHanivep CbrgrP+ofgGIO4HGgQXgkuJHZTKBOoFHs0mKaHEgg9H/JT6K6O7vPu5mpw9nWhOHKZtc cnzg== X-Received: by 10.15.42.129 with SMTP id u1mr30044725eev.116.1372839229231; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 01:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (host217-41-3-38.in-addr.btopenworld.com. [217.41.3.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n42sm42543013eeh.15.2013.07.03.01.13.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Jul 2013 01:13:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Heron Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F0AF6D13-7C39-4BE1-85B7-EB47D63219B2" Subject: Fwd: Draft submission deadlines change Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:13:47 +0100 References: <20130703051701.22549.85585.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Message-Id: <5E09CC0B-2864-4045-AAA3-CAA10F932DEF@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 08:13:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F0AF6D13-7C39-4BE1-85B7-EB47D63219B2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii please note the change to the draft submission deadlines... Nabil & Giles Begin forwarded message: > From: IETF Chair > Subject: Draft submission deadlines change > Date: 3 July 2013 06:17:01 BST > To: IETF Announcement List > Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org >=20 > Please note that for IETF 87, there is only one deadline for draft = submission: Monday 15th July. Previously, there had been two different = deadlines, one for -00 and another one for other versions. The IESG has = decided to experiment with just one deadline for now to simplify the set = of deadlines and enable easier submission of new drafts. While we = realise that the change comes near the deadline, we hope that you find = the extra time useful. >=20 > But please do note that working group chairs will continue to make = smart decisions about what topics are worthwhile for discussing in a = session in the upcoming meeting, and will also set their agendas in a = timely manner and create deadlines for their working groups that must be = adhered to. The earlier new drafts are submitted, the more time there is = to talk about them on the mailing lists and consider them for the = session agendas. This is particularly important for BoFs. >=20 > Jari Arkko for the IESG --Apple-Mail=_F0AF6D13-7C39-4BE1-85B7-EB47D63219B2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
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P= lease note that for IETF 87, there is only one deadline for draft = submission: Monday 15th July. Previously, there had been two different = deadlines, one for -00 and another one for other versions. The IESG has = decided to experiment with just one deadline for now to simplify the set = of deadlines and enable easier submission of new drafts. While we = realise that the change comes near the deadline, we hope that you find = the extra time useful.

But please do note that working group = chairs will continue to make smart decisions about what topics are = worthwhile for discussing in a session in the upcoming meeting, and will = also set their agendas in a timely manner and create deadlines for their = working groups that must be adhered to. The earlier new drafts are = submitted, the more time there is to talk about them on the mailing = lists and consider them for the session agendas. This is particularly = important for BoFs.

Jari Arkko for the = IESG

= --Apple-Mail=_F0AF6D13-7C39-4BE1-85B7-EB47D63219B2-- From giles.heron@gmail.com Fri Jul 5 05:46:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5094D11E82C2 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 05:46:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ET0oGNoZPNd6 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 05:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x22c.google.com (mail-ve0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22c]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F1F11E82BD for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 05:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f172.google.com with SMTP id jz10so1783771veb.3 for ; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 05:46:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :cc:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=aaaNCUTsta+ImAc0aixcpm8OQTouchiB9scEpfp5OM8=; b=MmFmnXePdQhJwryNZRaHDpsxX5WsAsRSkbcggFwTivtkYe/O8lPoZCzo2gZMiBmgVJ JNHeR4EElj6vhluC6l7VcKuhKCqQoHdTyHSADArTtrAa8bD5hB3rN+AtLUP0kUsbmxGz uH80qpGF4xrWX8rQ5Hf2g6h+kubUmsdbD7zQONc54v7fXrJlRQZ2UxQAGtJJ76kifEZ6 lcseAaZXUVn1EZ2ALR6WngN08tcZIyjs9wITXNzp81W49KHpe/SVvjI+MX1FLB94jgd+ UTssQv1hzozsYZFwp04Pip6ZAnih14hxAh5U+BDHPJuDNkW1iJQqKzGDjyVnA4s0vYGM 0u+A== X-Received: by 10.220.143.140 with SMTP id v12mr6576172vcu.95.1373028396210; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 05:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-lon06-vla300-10-148-89-30.cisco.com (64-103-25-233.cisco.com. [64.103.25.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s10sm4349452vdt.13.2013.07.05.05.46.34 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Jul 2013 05:46:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Heron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:46:32 +0100 Message-Id: <743BB5A2-37DF-4991-B3E9-7AE20BA5F55B@gmail.com> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 12:46:38 -0000 Hi, We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to = draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-03 (VPLS Interoperability with = Provider Backbone Bridges), in order to ensure that IPR has been = disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 = and 5378 for more details).=20 If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been = properly disclosed. The draft will not be adopted until a response has = been received from each author. If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author = for this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of = any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The draft can be found at = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-03 This poll closes on Friday July 13th, 2013. Thanks, Nabil & Giles= From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Jul 7 09:50:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FFC21F9C31; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 09:50:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.512 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.512 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dh-qTu5ro4+L; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 09:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16AEF21F9AF0; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 09:50:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-01.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.51.p2 Message-ID: <20130707165040.25398.67138.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 09:50:40 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 16:50:41 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Redundancy provisioning for VPLS Inter-domain Author(s) : Zhihua Liu Lizhong Jin Ran Chen Dennis Cai Samer Salam Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-01.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2013-07-07 Abstract: In many VPLS deployments based on [RFC4762], inter-domain connectivity has been deployed without node redundancy, or with node redundancy in a single domain. This document describes a solution for inter-domain VPLS based on RFC4762 with node and link redundancy in both domains. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redunda= ncy There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redun= dancy-01 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com Mon Jul 8 09:31:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD0D21F9CB3 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:31:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1gOyNlZBSesK for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fldsmtpe03.verizon.com (fldsmtpe03.verizon.com [140.108.26.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E8221F8EEA for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:30:52 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi01.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.143]) by fldsmtpe03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 08 Jul 2013 16:30:48 +0000 From: "Bitar, Nabil N" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,1021,1363132800"; d="scan'208,217";a="512743623" Received: from fldp1lumxc7hb04.verizon.com (HELO FLDP1LUMXC7HB04.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.75.83]) by fldsmtpi01.verizon.com with ESMTP; 08 Jul 2013 16:30:47 +0000 Received: from fldp1lumxc7v63.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.45.45]) by FLDP1LUMXC7HB04.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.75.83]) with mapi; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 12:30:47 -0400 To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 12:29:36 -0400 Subject: [l2vpn] L2VPN Agenda Slot Call for IETF 87 - Berlin Thread-Topic: [l2vpn] L2VPN Agenda Slot Call for IETF 87 - Berlin Thread-Index: Ac57+IAqwsluB2HYSki1ptLZw9/uAA== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.4.130416 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CE00162E91AC5nabilnbitarverizoncom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Giles Heron X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 16:31:14 -0000 --_000_CE00162E91AC5nabilnbitarverizoncom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi L2VPN WG. Please let us know if you have a time-slot request for the L2VPN session at= IETF 87=96Berlin. Please, email us your request by Sunday July 14, 2013 a= long with the following information: 1) Draft title 2) Presenter name 3) Requested duration Please note that priority will be given to drafts that are clearly within t= he scope of the current L2VPN charter. Please also note the following cutoff date for draft submission. This date = applies to new 00 drafts and updated drafts. 2013-07-15 (Monday): Internet Draft submission cut-off (for all drafts, inc= luding -00) by UTC 24:00. The l2vpn WG session is scheduled for Monday July 29, 2013 9:00-11:30AM. Yo= u may see the agenda at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/87/agenda.html= . Thus, we request that you send us your slides by Sunday July 28 noon local-= Berlin time, allowing us to upload your slides in time. Your help in gettin= g the slides early to us is appreciated. 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Hi L2VPN = WG.
Please let us know if you have a time-slo= t request for the L2VPN session at IETF 87=96Berlin. Please,  email us= your request by Sunday July 14, 2013 along with the following information:=
1) Draft title
2) Presenter name
3) Requested duration

Please note that priority will be given to drafts that are clearly within t= he scope of the current L2VPN charter.
Please also note the following cutoff date for draft submission. This dat= e applies to new 00 drafts and updated drafts. 

2013-07-15 (M= onday): Internet Draft submission cut-off (for all drafts, in= cluding -00) by UTC 24:00.

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The l2vpn WG session is scheduled for Monday July 29, 201= 3 9:00-11:30AM. You may see the agenda at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/87= /agenda.html.
Thus, we request that you send us your slides = by Sunday July 28 noon local-Berlin time, allowing us to upload your slides= in time. Your help in getting the slides early to us is appreciated.
=

Thanks,
Nabil and Giles
--_000_CE00162E91AC5nabilnbitarverizoncom_-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Jul 9 14:36:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3836311E8171; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:36:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.526 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.526 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23QX-0SsysKG; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0C221F9D09; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:36:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-04.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.51.p2 Message-ID: <20130709213621.17278.35122.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 14:36:21 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 21:36:23 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : VPLS Interoperability with Provider Backbone Bridges Author(s) : Ali Sajassi Samer Salam Nabil Bitar Florin Balus Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-04.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2013-07-09 Abstract: The scalability of H-VPLS with Ethernet access networks can be improved by incorporating Provider Backbone Bridge functionality in the VPLS access. Provider Backbone Bridging has been standardized as IEEE 802.1ah-2008, and aims to improve the scalability of MAC addresses and service instances in Provider Ethernet networks. This document describes different interoperability scenarios where Provider Backbone Bridge functionality is used in H-VPLS with Ethernet or MPLS access network to attain better scalability in terms of number of customer MAC addresses and number of service instances. The document also describes the scenarios and the mechanisms for incorporating Provider Backbone Bridge functionality within H-VPLS with existing Ethernet access and interoperability among them. Furthermore, the document discusses the migration mechanisms and scenarios by which Provider Backbone Bridge functionality can be incorporated into H-VPLS with existing MPLS access. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-04 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From sajassi@cisco.com Tue Jul 9 15:03:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA71A21F9B38 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 15:03:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bVPyBzV6LsNC for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 15:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.86.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D03221F9AA4 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 15:03:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1173; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1373407387; x=1374616987; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=ewNbtZJVs+z4UVYmSL+TyRrGVZMCpeVPNCeQsZ7fP/4=; b=KEMt82Dd4lkdYcz5WDxkCEMIVErrIdMQAL3Ld0GG1185ciKGRyDECOTE ESae60kHtLyWVRfk52NlLlHlosz01JNm5iDnRTTYEA0DcvyYGlGazZLfk pAID1Uoz/vmxtKnz0EtybrDRy55SeiDrEJ+djaZDycbUpd82OoOGzQ/RT 8=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhQFAMOH3FGtJV2Y/2dsb2JhbABbgmghMk3BEoEbFnSCJQEEOlEBCCIUMRElAgQBEgiHdQMPAQuxIg2IUY0AgSmBETiDCWsDlAGBbIMQinqFJoMRgXE3 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,1030,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="232615635" Received: from rcdn-core-1.cisco.com ([173.37.93.152]) by rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Jul 2013 22:03:06 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com [173.37.183.75]) by rcdn-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r69M36nl001552 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:03:06 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com ([173.37.183.75]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 17:03:05 -0500 From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop Thread-Topic: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop Thread-Index: AQHOeX21ZhvPhxOdckCTCjN9CgFEyZlcy6kA Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:03:05 +0000 Message-ID: <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B123A7729@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <743BB5A2-37DF-4991-B3E9-7AE20BA5F55B@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.4.130416 x-originating-ip: [10.128.2.97] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1F334C231A4A6B41AE47554CB27D0B9A@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 22:03:12 -0000 Hi Giles, I have already disclosed the IPRs with respect to draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop according to the IETF procedures. Cheers, Ali On 7/5/13 5:46 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >Hi, > >We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to >draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-03 (VPLS Interoperability with Provider >Backbone Bridges), in order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in >compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for >more details).=20 > >If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email >whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been >properly disclosed. The draft will not be adopted until a response has >been received from each author. > >If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for >this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > >The draft can be found at >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-03 > >This poll closes on Friday July 13th, 2013. > >Thanks, >Nabil & Giles From ssalam@cisco.com Wed Jul 10 10:41:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC2F21F9F52 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:41:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RhRTDtZZTXjY for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.86.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D82E21F842B for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:41:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1119; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1373478091; x=1374687691; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=auBYTgra0ipJ6iQjQwFbcUlIplB43FbcEd8s0WKjGXQ=; b=lu+/P1g/M0mG7ZycRnpU0QdX2XufAGb9l9y2n/eGkzHGL8wSlD+OFIhH 4mhu9QDqJApc4bwk6PVSKMu1E1igJwjUQzKqHJv5hnnGwf4yus3x26mIk QwL31D+fGFygii7J0uI4FLCZ4yacOZxu811RL0pxYX1MG5/wMpVLku+8S 8=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai8FAIeb3VGtJXHA/2dsb2JhbABagmghMk3BHoETFnSCJQEEOlEBCCIUMRElAgQBEgiHdQMPAQuuew2IUYx4gSmBETiDCWwDlAGBboMRinuFJoMRgXE3 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,1037,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="233008433" Received: from rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com ([173.37.113.192]) by rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Jul 2013 17:41:30 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com [173.37.183.81]) by rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6AHfUGh016560 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:41:30 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com ([173.37.183.81]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 12:41:30 -0500 From: "Samer Salam (ssalam)" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop Thread-Topic: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop Thread-Index: AQHOeX21VVNTbKXqrU6UuVyMenhy0pleFOWA Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:41:29 +0000 Message-ID: <8F25FF8EA49D164EBE5F1B5AD33F3BC91240D8E5@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <743BB5A2-37DF-4991-B3E9-7AE20BA5F55B@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [161.44.210.86] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0E4272F2207FF84EA216A55F7848545B@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:41:44 -0000 Hi Giles, I am not aware of any IPR that has not already been disclosed. Thanks, Samer On 13-07-05 5:46 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >Hi, > >We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to >draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-03 (VPLS Interoperability with Provider >Backbone Bridges), in order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in >compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for >more details).=20 > >If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email >whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been >properly disclosed. The draft will not be adopted until a response has >been received from each author. > >If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for >this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > >The draft can be found at >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-03 > >This poll closes on Friday July 13th, 2013. > >Thanks, >Nabil & Giles From nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com Wed Jul 10 11:05:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF0321F9E31 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:05:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vhT4Wy+CTYmm for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fldsmtpe03.verizon.com (fldsmtpe03.verizon.com [140.108.26.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCCE21F9E34 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:05:05 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi03.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.145]) by fldsmtpe03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 10 Jul 2013 18:04:47 +0000 From: "Bitar, Nabil N" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,1037,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="506074261" Received: from fldp1lumxc7hb03.verizon.com (HELO FLDP1LUMXC7HB03.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.75.86]) by fldsmtpi03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 10 Jul 2013 18:04:45 +0000 Received: from fldp1lumxc7v63.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.45.45]) by FLDP1LUMXC7HB03.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.75.86]) with mapi; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:04:43 -0400 To: "Samer Salam (ssalam)" , Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:04:31 -0400 Subject: Re: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop Thread-Topic: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop Thread-Index: Ac59l/QEg++IyesCQzCt4tfv9qEDbQ== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8F25FF8EA49D164EBE5F1B5AD33F3BC91240D8E5@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.4.130416 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 18:05:22 -0000 Hi Giles, Same here. As a co-author, I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft that has not already been disclosed. Thanks, Nabil=20 On 7/10/13 1:41 PM, "Samer Salam (ssalam)" wrote: >Hi Giles, > >I am not aware of any IPR that has not already been disclosed. > >Thanks, >Samer > > >On 13-07-05 5:46 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to >>draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-03 (VPLS Interoperability with Provider >>Backbone Bridges), in order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in >>compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for >>more details).=20 >> >>If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email >>whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been >>properly disclosed. The draft will not be adopted until a response has >>been received from each author. >> >>If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for >>this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >>IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >> >>The draft can be found at >>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-03 >> >>This poll closes on Friday July 13th, 2013. >> >>Thanks, >>Nabil & Giles > From internet-drafts@ietf.org Wed Jul 10 12:17:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173E221F9C6F; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 12:17:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.529 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.529 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l5eiGpdl7I7M; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 12:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4759E21F9C34; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 12:17:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-05.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.51.p2 Message-ID: <20130710191728.23022.26081.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 12:17:28 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 19:17:29 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : VPLS Interoperability with Provider Backbone Bridges Author(s) : Ali Sajassi Samer Salam Nabil Bitar Florin Balus Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-05.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2013-07-10 Abstract: The scalability of H-VPLS with Ethernet access networks can be improved by incorporating Provider Backbone Bridge functionality in the VPLS access. Provider Backbone Bridging has been standardized as IEEE 802.1ah-2008, and aims to improve the scalability of MAC addresses and service instances in Provider Ethernet networks. This document describes different interoperability scenarios where Provider Backbone Bridge functionality is used in H-VPLS with Ethernet or MPLS access network to attain better scalability in terms of number of customer MAC addresses and number of service instances. The document also describes the scenarios and the mechanisms for incorporating Provider Backbone Bridge functionality within H-VPLS with existing Ethernet access and interoperability among them. Furthermore, the document discusses the migration mechanisms and scenarios by which Provider Backbone Bridge functionality can be incorporated into H-VPLS with existing MPLS access. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-05 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Jul 12 08:25:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BC521E80B5; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:25:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.535 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.535 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lPYBj22FPGNP; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3119321F9A96; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:25:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.51.p2 Message-ID: <20130712152522.12135.47977.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:25:22 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 15:25:27 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Redundancy provisioning for VPLS Inter-domain Author(s) : Zhihua Liu Lizhong Jin Ran Chen Dennis Cai Samer Salam Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2013-07-12 Abstract: In many VPLS deployments based on [RFC4762], inter-domain connectivity has been deployed without node redundancy, or with node redundancy in a single domain. This document describes a solution for inter-domain VPLS based on RFC4762 with node and link redundancy in both domains. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redunda= ncy There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redun= dancy-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From giles.heron@gmail.com Fri Jul 12 08:38:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984D611E814D for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:38:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2BKhbcixb4ht for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x229.google.com (mail-we0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::229]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F416811E8126 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id n57so8318027wev.14 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:38:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :cc:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=7BEBCad5N0+cin9ejoIOcwce1lDCeHFkKXYjvW+SuDY=; b=A+JaZbBr7CTPvQgOKCD8On6GrvNSb647aYlys/bAZy9LwUMzIa3oq5Ycn0oz7XJ1sA NjLCCMF5u2f24+rOFMS4fHVQ5Y+LTqLt2BYIIB4qHtaHqqdaMFln2dg3W/2dk4DRsDpC Sc2EZp4s6jUe8kfVbnTqR/ANUeJvDmQC/I5iCxRKIxMhLwzilC8731OGyMkZfDAX5iES 22c9W4OJMBDXd8bH3ffNQ+EHJ1lPQuJSnAKrTaWiuU/JaO5FvLvqjij8RAh3T6dO+73N wwHniOzVCN+z4cmbAbT+liIRHk1V/mjXm9L/twhLy9GQNANNWB4zbPfnnuSCqXG0QcP+ b1Vg== X-Received: by 10.194.108.73 with SMTP id hi9mr24329741wjb.85.1373643501155; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.61.192.245] (64-103-25-233.cisco.com. [64.103.25.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r8sm4162988wiz.5.2013.07.12.08.38.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:38:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Heron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:38:18 +0100 Message-Id: <130C6FE1-3DE1-401D-8F13-6B508D0F5952@gmail.com> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 15:38:22 -0000 This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-0= 2 please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for = publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG. this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013. Nabil & Giles= From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Jul 12 13:17:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB45A21F9E52; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:17:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.536 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.536 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2mXtT4yl0rFS; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF2221F9C5D; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:17:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-04.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.51.p2 Message-ID: <20130712201749.13059.42335.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:17:49 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:17:50 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : PIM Snooping over VPLS Author(s) : Olivier Dornon Jayant Kotalwar Venu Hemige Ray Qiu Jeffrey Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-04.txt Pages : 39 Date : 2013-07-12 Abstract: This document describes the procedures and recommendations for VPLS PEs to facilitate replication of multicast traffic to only certain ports (behind which there are interested PIM routers and/or IGMP hosts) via PIM Snooping and PIM Proxy. With PIM Snooping, PEs passively listen to certain PIM control messages to build control and forwarding states while transparently flooding those messages. With PIM Proxy, PEs do not flood PIM Join/ Prune messages but only generate their own and send out of certain ports, based on the control states built from downstream Join/Prune messages. PIM Proxy is required when PIM Join suppression is enabled on the CE devices and useful to reduce PIM control traffic in a VPLS domain. The document also describes PIM Relay, which can be viewed as light- weight proxy, where all downstream Join/Prune messages are simply forwarded out of certain ports but not flooded to avoid triggering PIM Join suppression on CE devices. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-04 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Jul 14 17:02:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6110321F9B7F; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:02:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.541 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tUvfyrIyTFRT; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8660921F9343; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:02:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.51.p2 Message-ID: <20130715000239.15470.34039.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:02:39 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:02:40 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for Ethernet VPN (EVPN) Author(s) : Ali Sajassi Rahul Aggarwal Nabil Bitar Aldrin Isaac Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2013-07-14 Abstract: The widespread adoption of Ethernet L2VPN services and the advent of new applications for the technology (e.g., data center interconnect) have culminated in a new set of requirements that are not readily addressable by the current Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) solution. In particular, multi-homing with all-active forwarding is not supported and there's no existing solution to leverage Multipoint-to-Multipoint (MP2MP) LSPs for optimizing the delivery of multi-destination frames. Furthermore, the provisioning of VPLS, even in the context of BGP-based auto-discovery, requires network operators to specify various network parameters on top of the access configuration. This document specifies the requirements for an Ethernet VPN (EVPN) solution which addresses the above issues. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Jul 14 19:40:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF89B21F9B53; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:40:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TZK5dEoFo+JV; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CF921F9B8D; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:40:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.51.p2 Message-ID: <20130715024042.24956.79321.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:40:42 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 02:40:48 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : BGP MPLS Based Ethernet VPN Author(s) : Ali Sajassi Rahul Aggarwal Wim Henderickx Florin Balus Aldrin Isaac James Uttaro Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04.txt Pages : 47 Date : 2013-07-14 Abstract: This document describes procedures for BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPNs (EVPN). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From giles.heron@gmail.com Mon Jul 15 00:27:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1237421F9EDC for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:27:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6IKNm3Trsqrn for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABA421F9E96 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id k10so2494453wiv.1 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:23:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :cc:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=uaPT8tHASMmiySWjgKrm/8vkldj8f20vswQ0eiQkM6k=; b=BJkUKiC82kf/mv0x2j2C4OFaWQVfcdZC+b2ZzWf8N6tGJxZFBmTO7oGWhGlxWySu1I Ld8lbUo2adjzA1EHMqaWgbVy6bSRAyBzi2ww2/6h7leBpYQv0vhTik0VRsb02Xwd+HtA WRzcu7kkm329xWSd8Uj4CE1EsPFunt2EG2XcZqe6bLJA3jLGhLMLn7Gxp1IibPBjigDz Ivz8G6XwlizZFV0WIeJll7peifoUH5MhHfYNWXaW0CTrJGon5FBSYpu286X2+nYa8izC fJjyAOT+ELD6VS8kwJpZRdfzM8QjIva0t6h9Wgt/0ig74Ln+KN3UzxVFU3EInl+8C7dC 14AA== X-Received: by 10.180.9.212 with SMTP id c20mr7773916wib.55.1373872986001; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams3-vpn-dhcp6076.cisco.com (64-103-25-233.cisco.com. [64.103.25.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f8sm18094751wiv.0.2013.07.15.00.23.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:23:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Heron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:23:04 +0100 Message-Id: <204C0D24-FBE6-464D-B266-B86CF26E4D27@gmail.com> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 07:27:17 -0000 We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to = draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 "Requirements for Ethernet VPN (EVPN)", in = order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR = rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).=20 If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been = properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response = has been received from each author. If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author = for this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of = any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The draft can be found at = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 This poll closes on Monday July 22nd, 2013. Thanks, Nabil & Giles= From wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Jul 15 00:32:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5239721F99AC for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:32:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k++i9ldwuK+J for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [135.245.0.33]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A5D21F9A2E for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fr711usmtp1.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-239-2-122.lucent.com [135.239.2.122]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id r6F7V28W003223 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 02:31:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr712wxchhub03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.74]) by fr711usmtp1.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id r6F7UAOW006542 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:30:51 +0200 Received: from FR711WXCHMBA07.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.3.63]) by FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.74]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:29:15 +0200 From: "Henderickx, Wim (Wim)" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Topic: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Index: AQHOgSzhGqAWJdnD0Ei6l92w1DkZ2JllV6yA Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 07:29:14 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <204C0D24-FBE6-464D-B266-B86CF26E4D27@gmail.com> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.5.130515 x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.40] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <6EF47F5946190649B185815F2F7D52BF@exchange.lucent.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.33 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 07:32:06 -0000 Not aware of IPR On 15/07/13 09:23, "Giles Heron" wrote: >We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to >draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 "Requirements for Ethernet VPN (EVPN)", in >order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR >rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > >If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email >whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been >properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has >been received from each author. > >If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for >this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > >The draft can be found at >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 > >This poll closes on Monday July 22nd, 2013. > >Thanks, >Nabil & Giles From ju1738@att.com Mon Jul 15 02:07:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99B621F8468 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 02:07:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LpYEC7vg44Ih for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 02:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com [209.65.160.94]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCC321F8467 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 02:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.20.146] (EHLO nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com) by nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.15.0-1) with ESMTP id c8ab3e15.639e6940.4312904.00-512.11950546.nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:02:04 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 51e3ba8c755f5a03-30c8f8b1eb9792d6d6d24a3c8ffa81f54f3a5641 Received: from unknown [144.160.20.146] (EHLO mlpd194.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) by nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.15.0-1) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id b8ab3e15.0.4312903.00-328.11950532.nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:02:03 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 51e3ba8b4147df0a-3fe61cc50d9862743d050d55206f02b3b1078696 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpd194.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6F922Of003959; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 05:02:03 -0400 Received: from mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com (mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com [130.9.128.241]) by mlpd194.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6F91thN003888 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 05:01:58 -0400 Received: from MISOUT7MSGHUB9B.ITServices.sbc.com (misout7msghub9b.itservices.sbc.com [144.151.223.72]) by mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com (RSA Interceptor); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:01:44 GMT Received: from MISOUT7MSGUSR9I.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.56]) by MISOUT7MSGHUB9B.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.72]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 05:01:43 -0400 From: "UTTARO, JAMES" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: RE: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Topic: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Index: AQHOgSzRh2BntqVgvkKN8xjlh0vngJllcWIA Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:01:43 +0000 Message-ID: References: <204C0D24-FBE6-464D-B266-B86CF26E4D27@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <204C0D24-FBE6-464D-B266-B86CF26E4D27@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.70.39.242] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.20.146] X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=R5y076tX c=1 sm=0 a=Qs8R1XBwmid1qBFB/a8mmA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=EQrehlVX6J8A:10 a=7RyupwSTV8QA:10 a=ofMgfj31e3cA:10 a=BLc] X-AnalysisOut: [eEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zQP7CpKOAAAA:8 a=XIqpo32R] X-AnalysisOut: [AAAA:8 a=ZsqJ4kGL1AAA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=CGZzHk6mV9Y-dN] X-AnalysisOut: [HwD8sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lZB815dzVvQA:10] X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:07:39 -0000 I am not aware of any relevant IPR for this draft.. Jim Uttaro -----Original Message----- From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of G= iles Heron Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 3:23 AM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-r= eq-04 "Requirements for Ethernet VPN (EVPN)", in order to ensure that IPR h= as been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3= 669 and 5378 for more details).=20 If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email whethe= r or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been properly discl= osed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has been received f= rom each author. If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for t= his draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR = that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-= req-04 This poll closes on Monday July 22nd, 2013. Thanks, Nabil & Giles From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Jul 15 09:48:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB1421E80EB; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:48:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.537 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.537 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J5SUIHsfC3Jz; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649FA21E80E4; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:48:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-06.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.51.p2 Message-ID: <20130715164803.14216.74659.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:48:03 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:48:04 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : BGP based Multi-homing in Virtual Private LAN Service Author(s) : Bhupesh Kothari Kireeti Kompella Wim Henderickx Florin Balus James Uttaro Senad Palislamovic Wen Lin Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-06.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2013-07-15 Abstract: Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) is a Layer 2 Virtual Private Network (VPN) that gives its customers the appearance that their sites are connected via a Local Area Network (LAN). It is often required for the Service Provider (SP) to give the customer redundant connectivity to some sites, often called "multi-homing". This memo shows how BGP-based multi-homing can be offered in the context of LDP and BGP VPLS solutions. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-06 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Jul 15 09:53:05 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B1A21F9C2D; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:53:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.538 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.538 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0rV8SYfKdYzP; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE5E11E8137; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:52:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls-12.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.51.p2 Message-ID: <20130715165245.16713.55906.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:52:45 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:53:06 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : IP-Only LAN Service (IPLS) Author(s) : Himanshu Shah Eric Rosen Francois Le Faucheur Giles Heron Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls-12.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2013-07-15 Abstract: A Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) [VPLS] is used to interconnect systems across a wide-area or metropolitan-area network, making it appear that they are on a private LAN. The systems which are interconnected may themselves be LAN switches. If, however, they are IP hosts or IP routers, certain simplifications to the operation of the VPLS are possible. We call this simplified type of VPLS an "IP-only LAN Service" (IPLS). In an IPLS, as in a VPLS, LAN interfaces are run in promiscuous mode, and frames are forwarded based on their destination MAC addresses. However, the maintenance of the MAC forwarding tables is done via signaling, rather than via the MAC address learning procedures specified in [IEEE 802.1D]. This draft specifies the protocol extensions and procedures for support of the IPLS service. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls-12 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls-12 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From sajassi@cisco.com Mon Jul 15 10:59:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628F311E8101 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:59:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JC0rXNGxPRvk for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com [173.37.86.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D143111E819F for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:59:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1081; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1373911144; x=1375120744; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=VzFbJo7oLG+2WOn4MUYaBYCKXkl1wV31dzFs4szXvdE=; b=gkl5i1++GIoscgRz/lCuAFCFMNRdYOgqYQ14PS6Lc/4zakSld6ZNcjH3 PmQoYY00ewKmxYorTykOf2BwcMGDRuAnphcAgj5GQFp/WtRmJr8rD6vOm Nuj4StRwcVhRhTZlxc6CfMu++byHEHxP4wc8yBRqHPnAeXLMqRqhXXeiY 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhwFAFQ35FGtJXG9/2dsb2JhbABagmUhNE/BUoETFnSCJQEEHR1RAQgiFDERJQIEARIIh3YDDwELrQENiF6MeoEogRE4gwttA5QFgW6DEop+hSaDEoFxNw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,670,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="232046497" Received: from rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com ([173.37.113.189]) by rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Jul 2013 17:59:04 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x09.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x09.cisco.com [173.37.183.83]) by rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6FHx4eT011498 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:59:04 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-rcd-x09.cisco.com ([173.37.183.83]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:58:58 -0500 From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Topic: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Index: AQHOgSzUP0I2I++zS02rcFSpQYdzLJll5hQA Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:58:57 +0000 Message-ID: <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B123A9592@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <204C0D24-FBE6-464D-B266-B86CF26E4D27@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.4.130416 x-originating-ip: [10.128.2.97] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <730D9340DE5D664EA7DAC6C88F67B228@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:59:23 -0000 Since this is requirement draft, I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft. Cheers, Ali On 7/15/13 12:23 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to >draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 "Requirements for Ethernet VPN (EVPN)", in >order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR >rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > >If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email >whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been >properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has >been received from each author. > >If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for >this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > >The draft can be found at >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 > >This poll closes on Monday July 22nd, 2013. > >Thanks, >Nabil & Giles From nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com Mon Jul 15 11:14:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629F011E8101 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:14:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8oKKzt4G4Jwl for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fldsmtpe01.verizon.com (fldsmtpe01.verizon.com [140.108.26.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D718021E80EB for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:14:25 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi03.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.145]) by fldsmtpe01.verizon.com with ESMTP; 15 Jul 2013 18:14:14 +0000 From: "Bitar, Nabil N" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,670,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="508922219" Received: from fldp1lumxc7hb05.verizon.com (HELO FLDP1LUMXC7HB05.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.75.87]) by fldsmtpi03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 15 Jul 2013 18:14:13 +0000 Received: from fldp1lumxc7v63.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.45.45]) by FLDP1LUMXC7HB05.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.75.87]) with mapi; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:14:13 -0400 To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:14:01 -0400 Subject: Re: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Topic: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req Thread-Index: Ac6Bhxwv32vPc0HmQSynZqJBoBKEew== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <204C0D24-FBE6-464D-B266-B86CF26E4D27@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.4.130416 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:14:31 -0000 As a co-author, I am not aware of any relevant IPR that has not been properly disclosed. Thanks, Nabil On 7/15/13 3:23 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to >draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 "Requirements for Ethernet VPN (EVPN)", in >order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR >rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > >If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email >whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been >properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has >been received from each author. > >If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for >this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > >The draft can be found at >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 > >This poll closes on Monday July 22nd, 2013. > >Thanks, >Nabil & Giles From giles.heron@gmail.com Mon Jul 15 12:01:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15ED11E81E8 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BEnJret95rDe for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com (mail-wi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08ABC11E8217 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hj3so3258799wib.16 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:01:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :cc:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=S+RPxa9WfKzhbgLI6f5iLb5oCtGJPdK8UM+kaExA0yA=; b=pWLMYWkXuqe55NqZlzVYVQ4byL92LJBR4M/zDSOsgMJi4Rg6pspbrwur0lgNH4xmK9 gEFSmyDjCwfjiTbpqUzgXzyOyl8cnw3pc2HKU4ATvYq5qcZ/1inzIubUBRQMPuSMtuZu AUHYSMGnySSwkG3RSb8wHMZwON7M5gax8Vzwyv1Wunsp7f0T3n4/q7gpFUcSrFfi+E6A 6CXbv9XCfmtVdvBJcLqdAdMBspnA3w85/RuIOkMjMpc2t3hW30mIA0pyet4Pkr/m3GCn 4B1+oS2ONdhucCnmoSVkVr4Wtva4MFtHQcXv4+l7RmMZtvQD6s+SqmCl1ZsWllMw/LxL uzKg== X-Received: by 10.194.63.46 with SMTP id d14mr33370142wjs.81.1373914870762; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams3-vpn-dhcp6961.cisco.com (64-103-25-233.cisco.com. [64.103.25.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s19sm22849481wik.11.2013.07.15.12.01.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:01:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Heron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:01:08 +0100 Message-Id: To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:01:56 -0000 We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to = draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02 "Redundancy = provisioning for VPLS Inter-domain", in order to ensure that IPR has = been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, = 3669 and 5378 for more details).=20 If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been = properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response = has been received from each author. If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author = for this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of = any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The draft can be found at = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-0= 2 This poll closes on Friday July 26th, 2013. Thanks, Nabil & Giles= From ssalam@cisco.com Mon Jul 15 14:16:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25C721E8101 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:16:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FqIFSy+Gl8gt for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F50721E8105 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:16:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1146; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1373922996; x=1375132596; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=mp7MKk6BDDC21QGF3zxTClC/b/RuiAhwaVfL+TBKcbo=; b=k+5zqrK26sVpRTYVe+lRm8VIR0fKOYYlhWaygWO0JrgczmatVcfQXwO3 Pd8S7OOvg1Ut9A2cTAwLmg3rz4+2AMpbggV7hFtk4oXP66J78eRfeOOts f1FCw7s1vfJ2sqgb6Kfum0cJps7GdZOVYcXfMXWfgplcB8pCyqMP0eamo w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhsFACZm5FGtJV2c/2dsb2JhbABagmUhNE/BXIEUFnSCJQEEOlEBCCIUMRElAgQBEgiHdgMPAQutOg2IXox6gSiBETiDC20DlAWBboMSin6FJoMSgXE3 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,671,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="235167316" Received: from rcdn-core-5.cisco.com ([173.37.93.156]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Jul 2013 21:16:35 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x08.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x08.cisco.com [173.36.12.82]) by rcdn-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6FLGZoC032050 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:16:35 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-aln-x08.cisco.com ([173.36.12.82]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:16:35 -0500 From: "Samer Salam (ssalam)" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy Thread-Topic: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy Thread-Index: AQHOgY4lpaj7lz8rg0+zy4eo6vOWYJlmHIaA Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:16:34 +0000 Message-ID: <8F25FF8EA49D164EBE5F1B5AD33F3BC9124106EC@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [10.21.148.148] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <57C954F23B832644BEB4A238F7DA4D5F@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:16:41 -0000 Hi Giles, I am not aware of any relevant IPR that has not been properly disclosed. Thanks Samer =20 On 13-07-15 12:01 PM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to >draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02 "Redundancy provisioning >for VPLS Inter-domain", in order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in >compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for >more details).=20 > >If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email >whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been >properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has >been received from each author. > >If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for >this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > >The draft can be found at >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-0 >2 > >This poll closes on Friday July 26th, 2013. > >Thanks, >Nabil & Giles From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Jul 15 16:33:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFC721E81BA; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:33:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1qLYMgA07Kjq; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5349221E81BF; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:33:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-05.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.51.p2 Message-ID: <20130715233343.6229.83444.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:33:43 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:33:54 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : PBB-EVPN Author(s) : Ali Sajassi Samer Salam Sami Boutros Nabil Bitar Aldrin Isaac Lizhong Jin Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-05.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2013-07-15 Abstract: This document discusses how Ethernet Provider Backbone Bridging [802.1ah] can be combined with EVPN in order to reduce the number of BGP MAC advertisement routes by aggregating Customer/Client MAC (C- MAC) addresses via Provider Backbone MAC address (B-MAC), provide client MAC address mobility using C-MAC aggregation and B-MAC sub- netting, confine the scope of C-MAC learning to only active flows, offer per site policies and avoid C-MAC address flushing on topology changes. The combined solution is referred to as PBB-EVPN. Conventions The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-05 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From aldrin.isaac@gmail.com Mon Jul 15 21:03:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D89411E81D6 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:03:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zv1zmvcxuUDD for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x232.google.com (mail-la0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9353E11E810A for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ep20so143237lab.23 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:02:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=i4gdnjoTdkVlwoAD26Wy2mcuqvOe7k0DpWHV/c1gOeY=; b=MSrprRWqnYgeX1VuvKaSMJW9r8FIBYIJRkooxZ6bBrhxXz5JNp9FBGP1oLOftzlJRc jXp6KqcxI7Z+JE/V0BD88ev6RJJZd9Ss3nPEKSrxWh+AVGcv0cIlj5AryKKqixo+OT2q I0ZWwELSDIyRYTM2FbVRaCdqtEGZTyAiGvfT6LATAkR31vvBXswpqAOCXITp3DQmpZ0w 7gCc1XPmg/7JRSd+WO3zQWGhhlc/15q5hc7W4pR1gr57AHGBYRbCjUPOtGDJhjLh57SY m9+FudEo5k0S0rqeJylCGTumOZG3NCind98qc/2go521ANdt+uN083vIGAxneD9zL0hW tJ1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.22.130 with SMTP id d2mr26072246laf.33.1373947378354; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.134.106 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:02:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <204C0D24-FBE6-464D-B266-B86CF26E4D27@gmail.com> References: <204C0D24-FBE6-464D-B266-B86CF26E4D27@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:02:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req From: Aldrin Isaac To: Giles Heron Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158b5546d4eaf04e1990dd9 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 04:03:00 -0000 --089e0158b5546d4eaf04e1990dd9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not aware of any IPR On Monday, July 15, 2013, Giles Heron wrote: > We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 "Requirements for Ethernet VPN (EVPN)", in > order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR > rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email > whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been properly > disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has been > received from each author. > > If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for > this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR > that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > The draft can be found at > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 > > This poll closes on Monday July 22nd, 2013. > > Thanks, > Nabil & Giles --089e0158b5546d4eaf04e1990dd9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not aware of any IPR

On Monday, July 15, 2013, Giles He= ron wrote:
We are polling for knowledge = of IPR that applies to draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-04 "Requirements for = Ethernet VPN (EVPN)", in order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed i= n compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for mo= re details).

If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email whethe= r or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been properly discl= osed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has been received f= rom each author.

If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for t= his draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR = that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

The draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-= l2vpn-evpn-req-04

This poll closes on Monday July 22nd, 2013.

Thanks,
Nabil & Giles
--089e0158b5546d4eaf04e1990dd9-- From xuxiaohu@huawei.com Thu Jul 18 02:55:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428B711E8111; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 02:55:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.253 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.253 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.346, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tJytRLm7-3Ek; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 02:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FF021E80B3; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 02:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml203-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AVD97060; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:55:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) by lhreml203-edg.huawei.com (172.18.7.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.7; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:53:53 +0100 Received: from NKGEML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.34) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.7; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:54:48 +0100 Received: from NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.175]) by nkgeml403-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.34]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.007; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:54:44 +0800 From: Xuxiaohu To: "nvo3@ietf.org" , L3VPN , "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: The possibility of using global MPLS labels as VNIs Thread-Topic: The possibility of using global MPLS labels as VNIs Thread-Index: Ac6DnNMgHvnlcn9VTo6g3UrBJiTzlQ== Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:54:43 +0000 Message-ID: <1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE081D6B60@NKGEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.98.130] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:55:21 -0000 Hi all, Till now, it seem that the only remaining technical reason for some people = to prefer VXLAN/NVGRE encapsulation format to MAC-in-MPLS-in-IP encapsulati= on format for network virtualization overlay is the former has global VNIs = while the latter doesn't have. If this reason is true, why can't we conside= r the possibility of using global MPLS labels to achieve the same goal? In fact, there are multiple possible ways to achieve global MPLS labels: 1) the first way is to allocate a label block from the existing label space= and use it as a global label space from which VPN labels are assigned. In = this way, the VPN label of a given VN is set to the corresponding VNI. This= approach doesn't require any change to the data plane. 2) the second way is to allocate a separate protocol type code for the glob= al MPLS label so as to distinguish global labels from downstream-assigned a= nd upstream-assigned labels. This approach requires some change to the data= plane of PE routers. 3) the third way is to reserve a special purpose label to indicate that the= label below such special purpose label is a global label. This approach re= quires some change to the data plane of PE routers as well. In case 2) and 3), the global label space mentioned above could be a label = space dedicated for VNI or a label space which is shared with other applica= tions (e.g., segment routing).=20 Any comments? Best regards, Xiaohu From lizho.jin@gmail.com Thu Jul 18 08:27:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C5221E811A for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:27:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s5RnCizc15Oz for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x232.google.com (mail-qa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC6911E80A5 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l18so1794034qak.9 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:26:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=k3pZGGsb0FUSmn09AiKkDn17h3jXAAdrb2ETqxNwN08=; b=CSbjhwiC7lGa5xcv5Li8HL6sklqVnQ4axcuIcsV2Q1TcFSXjnSiox8xKEdbX1YnJ4W PoW4QzBNvA1Y9MQ6PluEliAsbn3ChMpeE/jqO5RDspTE2ZTgNCA0AYk30FOMQ/XFxR1L Vvu6YCDiZ1Yvt3OREG79tiYi41+pvKToJEZRVLhTfbSLsw2qZUFDv6kGEl+lpVAN549b 0VMkKvRKKAdmQzQlujs+bgSxsOcQI8vi27OEALwZ5P73pADhsBcG6917Di/V4p5VVaLe Sp6+grBvKdbAWDUM5xG8d/OSmRQ9lY8ne3IeJj4HvymKgKWb0/xQ9u05/TzBDGRLDLqI Wbcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.58.142 with SMTP id g14mr13928199qah.67.1374161211238; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.65.35 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.65.35 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:26:51 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy From: Lizhong Jin To: l2vpn@ietf.org, giles.heron@gmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3074b470dc2dff04e1cad610 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:27:25 -0000 --20cf3074b470dc2dff04e1cad610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Giles, I am not aware of any IPR related with this draft. Regards Lizhong > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:01:08 +0100 > From: Giles Heron > To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" > Subject: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02 "Redundancy provisioning for VPLS Inter-domain", in order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has been received from each author. > > If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > The draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02 > > This poll closes on Friday July 26th, 2013. > > Thanks, > Nabil & Giles > > ------------------------------ --20cf3074b470dc2dff04e1cad610 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Giles,
I am not aware of any IPR related with this draft.

Regards
Lizhong

> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:01:08 +0100
> From: Giles Heron <giles.h= eron@gmail.com>
> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" &= lt;l2vpn@ietf.org>
> Subject: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy > Message-ID: <AADE0D05-9CBA-4B51-A3F6-456A76C04827@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
>
> We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to draft-ietf-l2vpn-v= pls-inter-domain-redundancy-02 "Redundancy provisioning for VPLS Inter= -domain", in order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance= with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).=
>
> If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email w= hether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been properly = disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has been recei= ved from each author.
>
> If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author = for this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any= IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>
> The draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draf= t-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02
>
> This poll closes on Friday July 26th, 2013.
>
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles
>
> ------------------------------

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Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:23:12 +0800 (CST) X-QQ-SSF: 0100000000000050FG600F000000000 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:23:05 +0800 From: liuzh_gz To: "Giles Heron" , l2vpn Subject: Re: Re: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy References: , <201307191618109379053@qq.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Has-Attach: no X-Mailer: Foxmail 7.0.1.92[cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <201307191623042343465@qq.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_001_NextPart041148166860_=----" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 03:02:02 -0700 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:23:47 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_001_NextPart041148166860_=---- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SGkgR2lsZXMsDQoNCkkgYW0gbm90IGF3YXJlIG9mIGFueSBJUFIgcmVsYXRlZCB3aXRoIHRoaXMg ZHJhZnQuDQoNClRoYW5rcw0KUmVnYXJkcw0KDQoNCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQpaaGlodWEgTGl1 DQoNCg0KPj4gRGF0ZTogTW9uLCAxNSBKdWwgMjAxMyAyMDowMTowOCArMDEwMA0KPj4gRnJvbTog R2lsZXMgSGVyb24gPGdpbGVzLmhlcm9uQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4NCj4+IFRvOiAibDJ2cG5AaWV0Zi5v cmciIDxsMnZwbkBpZXRmLm9yZz4NCj4+IFN1YmplY3Q6IElQUiBwb2xsIGZvciBkcmFmdC1pZXRm LWwydnBuLXZwbHMtaW50ZXItZG9tYWluLXJlZHVuZGFuY3kNCj4+IE1lc3NhZ2UtSUQ6IDxBQURF MEQwNS05Q0JBLTRCNTEtQTNGNi00NTZBNzZDMDQ4MjdAZ21haWwuY29tPg0KPj4gQ29udGVudC1U eXBlOiB0ZXh0L3BsYWluOyBjaGFyc2V0PXVzLWFzY2lpDQo+Pg0KPj4gV2UgYXJlIHBvbGxpbmcg Zm9yIGtub3dsZWRnZSBvZiBJUFIgdGhhdCBhcHBsaWVzIHRvDQo+ZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1sMnZwbi12 cGxzLWludGVyLWRvbWFpbi1yZWR1bmRhbmN5LTAyICJSZWR1bmRhbmN5IHByb3Zpc2lvbmluZw0K PmZvciBWUExTIEludGVyLWRvbWFpbiIsIGluIG9yZGVyIHRvIGVuc3VyZSB0aGF0IElQUiBoYXMg YmVlbiBkaXNjbG9zZWQgaW4NCj5jb21wbGlhbmNlIHdpdGggSUVURiBJUFIgcnVsZXMgKHNlZSBS RkNzIDM5NzksIDQ4NzksIDM2NjkgYW5kIDUzNzggZm9yIG1vcmUNCj5kZXRhaWxzKS4NCj4+DQo+ PiBJZiB5b3UgYXJlIGxpc3RlZCBhcyBhIGRvY3VtZW50IGF1dGhvciwgcGxlYXNlIHJlc3BvbmQg dG8gdGhpcyBlbWFpbA0KPndoZXRoZXIgb3Igbm90IHlvdSBhcmUgYXdhcmUgb2YgYW55IHJlbGV2 YW50IElQUiB0aGF0IGhhcyBub3QgYmVlbiBwcm9wZXJseQ0KPmRpc2Nsb3NlZC4gVGhlIGRyYWZ0 IHdpbGwgbm90IGJlIHByb2dyZXNzZWQgdW50aWwgYSByZXNwb25zZSBoYXMgYmVlbg0KPnJlY2Vp dmVkIGZyb20gZWFjaCBhdXRob3IuDQo+Pg0KPj4gSWYgeW91IGFyZSBvbiB0aGUgbDJ2cG4gV0cg ZW1haWwgbGlzdCBidXQgYXJlIG5vdCBsaXN0ZWQgYXMgYW4gYXV0aG9yIGZvcg0KPnRoaXMgZHJh ZnQsIHRoZW4gcGxlYXNlIGV4cGxpY2l0bHkgcmVzcG9uZCBvbmx5IGlmIHlvdSBhcmUgYXdhcmUg b2YgYW55IElQUg0KPnRoYXQgaGFzIG5vdCB5ZXQgYmVlbiBkaXNjbG9zZWQgaW4gY29uZm9ybWFu Y2Ugd2l0aCBJRVRGIHJ1bGVzLg0KPj4NCj4+IFRoZSBkcmFmdCBjYW4gYmUgZm91bmQgYXQNCj5o dHRwOi8vdG9vbHMuaWV0Zi5vcmcvaHRtbC9kcmFmdC1pZXRmLWwydnBuLXZwbHMtaW50ZXItZG9t YWluLXJlZHVuZGFuY3ktMDINCj4+DQo+PiBUaGlzIHBvbGwgY2xvc2VzIG9uIEZyaWRheSBKdWx5 IDI2dGgsIDIwMTMuDQo+Pg0KPj4gVGhhbmtzLA0KPj4gTmFiaWwgJiBHaWxlcw0KPj4NCj4+IC0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KPg== ------=_001_NextPart041148166860_=---- Content-Type: text/html; 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Hi Giles,
 
I am not aware of any IPR related&= nbsp;with this draft.
 
Thanks
Regards
 
 
--------------
Zhihua Liu
 
 
>> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:01:0= 8 +0100
>> From: Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.= com>
>> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
>> Subject: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2= vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy
>> Message-ID: <AADE0D05-9CBA-4B51-A3F6-456A76C048= 27@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii<= /DIV>
>>
>> We are polling for knowledge o= f IPR that applies to
>draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02 "Redundancy=  provisioning
>for VPLS Inter-domain", in order to = ;ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
>compliance with IETF IPR rules (see = ;RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for mor= e
>details).
>>
>> If you are listed as a do= cument author, please respond to this email<= /DIV>
>whether or not you are aware of&nbs= p;any relevant IPR that has not been pr= operly
>disclosed. The draft will not be pr= ogressed until a response has been
>received from each author.
>>
>> If you are on the l2vpn W= G email list but are not listed as = ;an author for
>this draft, then please explicitly respo= nd only if you are aware of any IP= R
>that has not yet been disclosed in&= nbsp;conformance with IETF rules.
>>
>> The draft can be found at
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-red= undancy-02
>>
>> This poll closes on Friday Jul= y 26th, 2013.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nabil & Giles
>>
>> ------------------------------
>
------=_001_NextPart041148166860_=------ From chen.ran@zte.com.cn Fri Jul 19 19:17:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27CD21E8092 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:17:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XK6ZBjr97gEr for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (mx6.zte.com.cn [95.130.199.165]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC0021E80C6 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (unknown [192.168.168.119]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTP id BA2FA2D4E9 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:16:31 +0800 (CST) Received: from mse01.zte.com.cn (unknown [10.30.3.20]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 17D1E727E8A; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:16:30 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse01.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id r6K2GUrI073910; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:16:30 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from chen.ran@zte.com.cn) To: l2vpn@ietf.org, giles.heron@gmail.com Subject: Re: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: chen.ran@zte.com.cn Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:16:24 +0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.3FP1 HF212|May 23, 2012) at 2013-07-20 10:16:19, Serialize complete at 2013-07-20 10:16:19 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 000C7E9048257BAE_=" X-MAIL: mse01.zte.com.cn r6K2GUrI073910 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 02:17:10 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 000C7E9048257BAE_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Giles, I am not aware of any IPR related with this draft. Regards Ran Chen > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:01:08 +0100 > From: Giles Heron > To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" > Subject: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02 "Redundancy provisioning for VPLS Inter-domain", in order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has been received from each author. > > If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > The draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02 > > This poll closes on Friday July 26th, 2013. > > Thanks, > Nabil & Giles > > ------------------------------ --=_alternative 000C7E9048257BAE_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi Giles,
I am not aware of any IPR related with this draft.

Regards
Ran Chen

> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:01:08 +0100
> From: Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com>
> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
> Subject: IPR poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy
> Message-ID: <AADE0D05-9CBA-4B51-A3F6-456A76C04827@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> We are polling for knowledge of IPR that applies to draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02 "Redundancy provisioning for VPLS Inter-domain", in order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>
> If you are listed as a document author, please respond to this email whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has been received from each author.
>
> If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author for this draft, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>
> The draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02
>
> This poll closes on Friday July 26th, 2013.
>
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles
>
> ------------------------------ --=_alternative 000C7E9048257BAE_=-- From giles.heron@gmail.com Mon Jul 22 10:31:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522F111E80D2 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:31:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[none] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kRQyBv+Gd7vv for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-x22a.google.com (mail-ee0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c00::22a]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716C811E80EF for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f42.google.com with SMTP id c4so3931542eek.15 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:30:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :cc:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=uzllDpMCfWDAVunt4NYMeI6Kq1H2cKADD/x45FF6ztI=; b=ugoTRqOiAUY84HjixkbQCnjwJdJWkII9Z28PSBfx4bNrIN7r5j4ELsqHernYEiVqLK piDJRhunFNCvS9L2cw/eulDHl2PqbGO6kj/Kr9TC53hNsRvkvcwggJ8GuY+i94/txQ0O vHZxhSvTO2dLehX93tafXBrsOKTXHCrVj3gqiJtetZPK16h1be989zPjPgO8atbRL+s1 ivpgnxGZ7sDbKbVo2q5BOgLy3HAGhlJSAr6T0nCJQz9srGk0Fd4sBIb4pQ0DNI3w27t4 narWAt/ae2vYbm1Zb7dOaiu0creHZrZHk8OiEQIWR3Hsi+Mh/F5KiFo9FS3RG9DXGF22 7cAg== X-Received: by 10.14.204.137 with SMTP id h9mr29081644eeo.13.1374514257621; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams3-vpn-dhcp7315.cisco.com (64-103-25-233.cisco.com. [64.103.25.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n5sm52358050eed.9.2013.07.22.10.30.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:30:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Heron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: draft agenda for L2VPN @ IETF87 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 18:30:54 +0100 Message-Id: <1D82AFEE-B4FF-4CE7-80FE-DD1C360E9323@gmail.com> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:31:04 -0000 The draft agenda for the L2VPN meeting at IETF87 can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/87/agenda/agenda-87-l2vpn Speakers please check your details are correct - and that you got the = slot you requested. Nabil and Giles= From nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com Wed Jul 24 15:04:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2B611E8136 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:04:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QLd6QJ7LxqWs for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omzsmtpe01.verizonbusiness.com (omzsmtpe01.verizonbusiness.com [199.249.25.210]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512B011E8141 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:04:08 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi03.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.145]) by omzsmtpe01.verizonbusiness.com with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2013 22:04:04 +0000 From: "Bitar, Nabil N" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,737,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="515016341" Received: from fldp1lumxc7hb01.verizon.com (HELO FLDP1LUMXC7HB01.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.45.78]) by fldsmtpi03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2013 22:04:03 +0000 Received: from fldp1lumxc7v63.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.45.45]) by FLDP1LUMXC7HB01.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.45.78]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 18:04:03 -0400 To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 18:03:53 -0400 Subject: [l2vpn] Final Agenda link. Thread-Topic: [l2vpn] Final Agenda link. Thread-Index: Ac6IubU5iTNHpOAnScOc3YKdqXsWvg== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1D82AFEE-B4FF-4CE7-80FE-DD1C360E9323@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.4.130416 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 22:04:14 -0000 Hi, The l2vpn WG final agenda can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/87/agenda/agenda-87-l2vpn It remained as it was last week, when we posted the draft agenda. The session will be 9AM-11:30AM on Monday July 29, 2013. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2DE451B00ED4FB41B39F68A8E8EE4F15@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:05:03 -0000 Hi Satya, Section 6 doesn't talk about RT. How did you arrive at RT of zero? Regarding the nit. Agreed - the referenced section number is correct but not the referenced title. Cheers, Ali =20 On 7/25/13 2:21 AM, "Satya Mohanty" wrote: >Hi, > >With respect to sec 6.3 Ethernet Segment > >3. The ESI may be configured. > > >The bytes that comprise the Route-Target value i.e. bytes 2 till 8 of the >configured esi, can they all be zeros? >AFAIK regular Route-Targets in 2-byte AS (as-num >=3D 1) or ip-address >format (community-value >=3D 1), the bytes that comprise the value fields >can't all be 0. > >Minor Nit: In sec 8.6, the reference to section 9.1 "Redundancy Group >Discovery" is in error. >I guess the reference name needs to be changed. > >Best regards, >--Satya > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >internet-drafts@ietf.org >Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:41 PM >To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org >Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04.txt > > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks >Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : BGP MPLS Based Ethernet VPN > Author(s) : Ali Sajassi > Rahul Aggarwal > Wim Henderickx > Florin Balus > Aldrin Isaac > James Uttaro > Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04.txt > Pages : 47 > Date : 2013-07-14 > >Abstract: > This document describes procedures for BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPNs > (EVPN). > > >The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn > >There's also a htmlized version available at: >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04 > >A diff from the previous version is available at: >http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04 > > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > From smohanty@juniper.net Thu Jul 25 10:37:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D70221F8B12; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%CISCO.COM$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:37:56 -0000 Hi Ali, Let me clarify further. In Section 6 Ethernet segment, three ways to generate the esi are described= using (1)LACP (2)Root Bridge Mac address and priority and (3)Configured va= lue. >From Section 8.6 ES-Import Route Target "This is a new transitive Route Target extended community carried with the = Ethernet Segment route. When used, it enables all the PEs connected to the = same multi-homed site to import the Ethernet Segment routes. The value is d= erived automatically from the ESI by encoding the 6-byte MAC address portio= n of the ESI in the ES-Import Route" Interpreted above (in absence of explicit mention) I would think that regar= dless of how the ESI is configured, for purposes of deriving the value of t= he ES-Import Route Target, one always extracts the six bytes starting from = the third byte (system mac placeholder). For instance, let's say somebody configures the esi using the third option = as 1.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1, the system mac placeholder is 0.0.0.0.0.0 (bytes 3 = till 8). This is the value which will be embedded in the route-target field= . Basically a value of 0. Wanted to clarify if this will be allowed? Normal Route Target formats don'= t support value of 0, I think. Best, Satya -----Original Message----- From: Ali Sajassi (sajassi) [mailto:sajassi@cisco.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:05 AM To: Satya Mohanty; internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04.txt Hi Satya, Section 6 doesn't talk about RT. How did you arrive at RT of zero? Regarding the nit. Agreed - the referenced section number is correct but no= t the referenced title. Cheers, Ali =20 On 7/25/13 2:21 AM, "Satya Mohanty" wrote: >Hi, > >With respect to sec 6.3 Ethernet Segment > >3. The ESI may be configured. > > >The bytes that comprise the Route-Target value i.e. bytes 2 till 8 of=20 >the configured esi, can they all be zeros? >AFAIK regular Route-Targets in 2-byte AS (as-num >=3D 1) or ip-address=20 >format (community-value >=3D 1), the bytes that comprise the value fields= =20 >can't all be 0. > >Minor Nit: In sec 8.6, the reference to section 9.1 "Redundancy Group=20 >Discovery" is in error. >I guess the reference name needs to be changed. > >Best regards, >--Satya > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf=20 >Of internet-drafts@ietf.org >Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:41 PM >To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org >Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04.txt > > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20 >directories. > This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks=20 >Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : BGP MPLS Based Ethernet VPN > Author(s) : Ali Sajassi > Rahul Aggarwal > Wim Henderickx > Florin Balus > Aldrin Isaac > James Uttaro > Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04.txt > Pages : 47 > Date : 2013-07-14 > >Abstract: > This document describes procedures for BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPNs > (EVPN). > > >The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn > >There's also a htmlized version available at: >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04 > >A diff from the previous version is available at: >http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04 > > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > From sajassi@cisco.com Sat Jul 27 07:27:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E445C21F9AB3; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:27:46 -0000 Hi Satya, On 7/25/13 7:37 PM, "Satya Mohanty" wrote: >Hi Ali, > >Let me clarify further. > >In Section 6 Ethernet segment, three ways to generate the esi are >described using (1)LACP (2)Root Bridge Mac address and priority and >(3)Configured value. > >From Section 8.6 ES-Import Route Target > >"This is a new transitive Route Target extended community carried with >the Ethernet Segment route. When used, it enables all the PEs connected >to the same multi-homed site to import the Ethernet Segment routes. The >value is derived automatically from the ESI by encoding the 6-byte MAC >address portion of the ESI in the ES-Import Route" > >Interpreted above (in absence of explicit mention) I would think that >regardless of how the ESI is configured, for purposes of deriving the >value of the ES-Import Route Target, one always extracts the six bytes >starting from the third byte (system mac placeholder). > >For instance, let's say somebody configures the esi using the third >option as 1.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1, the system mac placeholder is 0.0.0.0.0.0 >(bytes 3 till 8). This is the value which will be embedded in the >route-target field. Basically a value of 0. > >Wanted to clarify if this will be allowed? Normal Route Target formats >don't support value of 0, I think. This would still work since this is a new RT derived based on MAC. And if someone configures MAC as 0, then the lower six bytes of this new RT will be zero. If you have multiple ESIs, with zero MAC, then the RTs for all these ESIs, will be zero which means the ES route messages will not be properly filtered by their RTs. However, they will eventually be properly filtered because the ESI values for these sites are different. Cheers, Ali=20 > >Best, >Satya > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ali Sajassi (sajassi) [mailto:sajassi@cisco.com] >Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:05 AM >To: Satya Mohanty; internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org >Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org >Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04.txt > >Hi Satya, > >Section 6 doesn't talk about RT. How did you arrive at RT of zero? > >Regarding the nit. Agreed - the referenced section number is correct but >not the referenced title. > >Cheers, >Ali =20 > >On 7/25/13 2:21 AM, "Satya Mohanty" wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>With respect to sec 6.3 Ethernet Segment >> >>3. The ESI may be configured. >> >> >>The bytes that comprise the Route-Target value i.e. bytes 2 till 8 of >>the configured esi, can they all be zeros? >>AFAIK regular Route-Targets in 2-byte AS (as-num >=3D 1) or ip-address >>format (community-value >=3D 1), the bytes that comprise the value fields >>can't all be 0. >> >>Minor Nit: In sec 8.6, the reference to section 9.1 "Redundancy Group >>Discovery" is in error. >>I guess the reference name needs to be changed. >> >>Best regards, >>--Satya >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >>Of internet-drafts@ietf.org >>Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:41 PM >>To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >>Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org >>Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04.txt >> >> >>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks >>Working Group of the IETF. >> >> Title : BGP MPLS Based Ethernet VPN >> Author(s) : Ali Sajassi >> Rahul Aggarwal >> Wim Henderickx >> Florin Balus >> Aldrin Isaac >> James Uttaro >> Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04.txt >> Pages : 47 >> Date : 2013-07-14 >> >>Abstract: >> This document describes procedures for BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPNs >> (EVPN). >> >> >>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn >> >>There's also a htmlized version available at: >>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04 >> >>A diff from the previous version is available at: >>http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-04 >> >> >>Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> >> > > > > From RKunze@telekom.de Sun Jul 28 23:58:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918A121F9546 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:58:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.248 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CdfHQ0v2e-tu for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcmail33.telekom.de (tcmail33.telekom.de [80.149.113.247]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC6E21F9D22 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from he101250.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.92.153]) by tcmail31.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 29 Jul 2013 08:58:08 +0200 Received: from HE101451.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.92.147]) by HE101250.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([fe80::e439:4046:12e2:e37%14]) with mapi; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:58:07 +0200 From: To: , , Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:58:05 +0200 Subject: AW: Polling for IPR on the E-Tree Requirements draft draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-04 Thread-Topic: Polling for IPR on the E-Tree Requirements draft draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-04 Thread-Index: Ac4xX+xK9+scNETWSfOURSKGClmWzgAA9wdAFrExdhA= Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D0A3A22C2D7BE64AA7506612C2E9BAB7015077398D67HE101451eme_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:01:24 -0700 Cc: giheron@cisco.com X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:58:16 -0000 --_000_D0A3A22C2D7BE64AA7506612C2E9BAB7015077398D67HE101451eme_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nabil/all, i am not aware of any relevant IPR which has not been properly disclosed. Br, R=FCdiger ________________________________ Von: DelRegno, Christopher N (Nick) [mailto:nick.delregno@verizon.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. April 2013 20:41 An: Bitar, Nabil N; l2vpn@ietf.org Cc: Giles Heron; raymond.key@ieee.org; simon.delord@gmail.com; frederic.jou= nay@orange.ch; huanglu@chinamobile.com; zhliu@gsta.com; Paul, Manuel; Kunze= , R=FCdiger; josh.rogers@twcable.com Betreff: RE: Polling for IPR on the E-Tree Requirements draft draft-ietf-l2= vpn-etree-reqt-04 Nabil/Giles: I am not aware of any relevant IPR which has not been properly disclosed. Thanks, Nick Christopher N. "Nick" Del Regno, PMTS Metro Enterprise Network Product Technology & Strategy, CNT 400 International Pkwy Richardson, TX 75081 Tel: 972-729-3411 From: Bitar, Nabil N Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:12 PM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Cc: Giles Heron; raymond.key@ieee.org; simon.delord@gmail.com; frederic.jou= nay@orange.ch; huanglu@chinamobile.com; zhliu@gsta.com; manuel.paul@telekom= .de; ruediger.kunze@telekom.de; DelRegno, Christopher N (Nick); josh.rogers= @twcable.com Subject: Polling for IPR on the E-Tree Requirements draft draft-ietf-l2vpn-= etree-reqt-04 Hi, We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-l2vpn-et= ree-reqt-04, Requirements for MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN, in order to ensu= re that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs = 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond to t= his email whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not bee= n properly disclosed. The draft will not be adopted until a response has be= en received from each author and contributor. If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR = that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The draft c= an be found at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-04 This poll closes on Thursday April 11, 2013. Thanks, Nabil & Giles --_000_D0A3A22C2D7BE64AA7506612C2E9BAB7015077398D67HE101451eme_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Nabil/all,
 
i am not aware of any relevant IPR which has not been= properly=20 disclosed.
 <= /DIV>
 
Br,
 
R=FCdiger
 
 

Von: DelRegno, Christopher N (Nick)=20 [mailto:nick.delregno@verizon.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Apri= l=20 2013 20:41
An: Bitar, Nabil N; l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: Giles= =20 Heron; raymond.key@ieee.org; simon.delord@gmail.com; frederic.jounay@orange= .ch;=20 huanglu@chinamobile.com; zhliu@gsta.com; Paul, Manuel; Kunze, R=FCdiger;=20 josh.rogers@twcable.com
Betreff: RE: Polling for IPR on the E-Tre= e=20 Requirements draft draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-04

Nabil/Giles:

 

I=20 am not aware of any relevant IPR which has not been properly=20 disclosed.

 

Thanks,

Nick

 

Christopher=20 N. =93Nick=94 Del Regno, PMTS

Metro=20 Enterprise Network Product Technology & Strategy, CNT=

400=20 International Pkwy

Richardson,=20 TX  75081

Tel:=20 972-729-3411

 

 

 

From:<= /B> Bitar, Nabil= N=20
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:12 PM
To:=20 l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: Giles Heron; raymond.key@ieee.org;=20 simon.delord@gmail.com; frederic.jounay@orange.ch; huanglu@chinamobile.com;= =20 zhliu@gsta.com; manuel.paul@telekom.de; ruediger.kunze@telekom.de; DelRegno= ,=20 Christopher N (Nick); josh.rogers@twcable.com
Subject: Polling fo= r IPR=20 on the E-Tree Requirements draft=20 draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-04

 

Hi,

 

We=20 are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to=20 draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-04, Requirement= s for=20 MEF E-Tree Support in L2VPN,=20 in order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF= IPR=20 rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more=20 details). 

 

If=20 you are listed as a document author or contributor,  please=20 respond to this email whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR= that=20 has not been properly disclosed. The draft will not be adopted until a= =20 response has been received from each author and=20 contributor.

 

If=20 you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author or= =20 contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of a= ny=20 IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with=20 IETF rules. The=20 draft can be found at https://= tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-04

 

This=20 poll closes on Thursday April 11, 2013.

 

Thanks,

Nabil=20 & Giles

 

 

 

<= /DIV> --_000_D0A3A22C2D7BE64AA7506612C2E9BAB7015077398D67HE101451eme_-- From Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com Mon Jul 29 05:18:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691FD21F9E85 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:18:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PWelRfWAvdV3 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ENFIRHETS1.metaswitch.com (enfirhets1.metaswitch.com [192.91.191.166]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FEAD21F9B52 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ENFICSCAS1.datcon.co.uk (172.18.4.13) by ENFIRHETS1.metaswitch.com (172.18.209.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:18:08 +0100 Received: from ENFICSMBX1.datcon.co.uk ([fe80::d5d5:c683:a3be:3a19]) by ENFICSCAS1.datcon.co.uk ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:18:13 +0100 From: Jonathan Hardwick To: "draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Comments on draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-06 Thread-Topic: Comments on draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-06 Thread-Index: Ac6MVbIOcLfhpqykQbeCnBzM4i5Cyg== Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:18:13 +0000 Message-ID: <09CE6C3BE5E1EA40B987BF5F25D8DDBAE10F81D8@ENFICSMBX1.datcon.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.18.34.178] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_09CE6C3BE5E1EA40B987BF5F25D8DDBAE10F81D8ENFICSMBX1datco_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:18:20 -0000 --_000_09CE6C3BE5E1EA40B987BF5F25D8DDBAE10F81D8ENFICSMBX1datco_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there I have reviewed this draft and have a few comments and questions. Please l= et me know if any of it requires clarification. Generally, I think it look= s good and adds good function. Best regards Jon Section 1 "Section 7 may someday discuss security considerations." You should probably fix that before the security ADs see it :) Section 1.1 It is intuitively quite easy to picture what a VPLS Site is, but I am confu= sed by its formal definition. "A VPLS site is a grouping of ports on a PE that belong to the same VPLS domain." is incompatible with "A VPLS site connected to multiple PEs is called as multi-homed site." since the former statement defines a VPLS Site to be a grouping of ports on= a single PE only. The former statement also seems incomplete as it disall= ows a situation where multiple customer sites in the same VPLS domain are h= omed to a single PE router (which is clearly within the scope of the draft)= . My intuitive understanding of a VPLS Site is something like a subset of a c= ustomer network that would remain connected at layer 2 if the service provi= der network were removed. I think the definition should be built around th= is idea. This allows >1 site to connect to a single VE, and clarifies what= is really meant by a multi-homed VPLS site. Section 3.2 para 4 : "If both CE1 and CE4 connectivity to PE1 is down, remote PEs can chose not to send multicast traffic to PE1 as there are no VPLS sites reachable via PE1." Typo: s/chose/choose/ This sentence implies that remote PE routers use the D bit in the CE NLRI t= o decide that the sending PE router has lost connectivity to all its sites.= But, if it is optional to assign a CE ID to single-homed sites then there= is no way to know that there is not another site, say CE5, hiding behind P= E1. I think that the sentence is misleading. Remote PE routers use the D bit i= n the VE NLRI, not the CE NLRI, to make this decision. Rather than connectivity going down, I think the more relevant case is when= PE1 loses the DF election for CE1. (This is discussed in section 3.4.) I= n this case, the D bit will not be set. But, remote PE routers can still d= ecide not to send multicast traffic to PE1 when it loses the DF election fo= r CE1 provided that they are sure there are no other sites that are homed t= o PE1. They cannot make this decision unless a CE ID is assigned to CE4. I think the draft should give a stronger requirement on advertising CE-IDs = for single-homed sites. If a multi-homed site connects to a given PE route= r, then any single-homed sites in the same VPLS domain that also connect to= that PE router MUST be configured with CE-IDs. Section 3.3.1 Figure 3 - alignment is off. On this new text: "Note that F bit is only applicable to VE NLRI and is not applicable to CE NLRI." I think it's the other way around - the F bit is applicable in the CE NLRI = and not the VE NLRI. At least, that's what it says in section 5.1. Section 3.4 "egress PEs" is a bit confusing. They can also be ingress PEs for traffic = going the other way... You mean the PEs that are not connected by an AC to= the multi-homed site. Section 6.1 Why not create PWs to all unique VEs? If you only choose one of them, won'= t you end up isolating all but one of the sites connected to the back-level= PE? Perhaps I am missing something. --_000_09CE6C3BE5E1EA40B987BF5F25D8DDBAE10F81D8ENFICSMBX1datco_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi there

 

I have reviewed this draft and have a few comments a= nd questions.  Please let me know if any of it requires clarification.=   Generally, I think it looks good and adds good function.<= /p>

 

Best regards

Jon

 

 

Section 1

“Section 7 may
   someday discuss security considerations.”

You should probably fix that before the security ADs= see it J

 

Section 1.1

It is intuitively quite easy to picture what a VPLS = Site is, but I am confused by its formal definition.

 

“A VPLS site is a grouping of ports on a PE that belong to<=
/o:p>
   the same VPLS domain.”

 

is incompatible with

 

“A VPLS site connected to multiple PEs is called as multi-homed =
site.”

 

since the former statement defines a VPLS Site to be= a grouping of ports on a single PE only.  The former statement also s= eems incomplete as it disallows a situation where multiple customer sites i= n the same VPLS domain are homed to a single PE router (which is clearly within the scope of the draft).

 

My intuitive understanding of a VPLS Site is somethi= ng like a subset of a customer network that would remain connected at layer= 2 if the service provider network were removed.  I think the definiti= on should be built around this idea.  This allows >1 site to connect to a single VE, and clarifies what is really = meant by a multi-homed VPLS site.

 

Section 3.2

para 4 :

 

“If both CE1 and
   CE4 connectivity to PE1 is down, remote PEs can chose not=
 to send
   multicast traffic to PE1 as there are no VPLS sites reach=
able via
   PE1.”

 

Typo: s/chose/choose/

 

This sentence implies that remote PE routers use the= D bit in the CE NLRI to decide that the sending PE router has lost connect= ivity to all its sites.  But, if it is optional to assign a CE ID to s= ingle-homed sites then there is no way to know that there is not another site, say CE5, hiding behind PE1.

 

I think that the sentence is misleading.  Remot= e PE routers use the D bit in the VE NLRI, not the CE NLRI, to make this de= cision.

 

Rather than connectivity going down, I think the mor= e relevant case is when PE1 loses the DF election for CE1.  (This is d= iscussed in section 3.4.)  In this case, the D bit will not be set.&nb= sp; But, remote PE routers can still decide not to send multicast traffic to PE1 when it loses the DF election for CE1 = provided that they are sure there are no other sites that are homed= to PE1.  They cannot make this decision unless a CE ID is assigned to= CE4.

 

I think the draft should give a stronger requirement= on advertising CE-IDs for single-homed sites.  If a multi-homed site = connects to a given PE router, then any single-homed sites in the same VPLS= domain that also connect to that PE router MUST be configured with CE-IDs.

 

Section 3.3.1

Figure 3 – alignment is off.

 

On this new text:

 

“Note that F bit is only applicable to VE NLRI and is not
       applicable to CE NLRI.”

 

I think it’s the other way around – the = F bit is applicable in the CE NLRI and not the VE NLRI.  At least, tha= t’s what it says in section 5.1.

 

Section 3.4

“egress PEs” is a bit confusing.  T= hey can also be ingress PEs for traffic going the other way...  You me= an the PEs that are not connected by an AC to the multi-homed site.

 

Section 6.1

Why not create PWs to all unique VEs?  If you o= nly choose one of them, won’t you end up isolating all but one of the= sites connected to the back-level PE?  Perhaps I am missing something= .

 

--_000_09CE6C3BE5E1EA40B987BF5F25D8DDBAE10F81D8ENFICSMBX1datco_-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Jul 29 05:38:30 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DC521F9CC7; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:38:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.488 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.488 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.111, BAYES_00=-2.599, FUZZY_VLIUM=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VJ2wSbIFIqqt; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D796321F9A34; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:38:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-05.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.60p1 Message-ID: <20130729123822.21995.38446.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:38:22 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:38:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet-Tre= e (E-Tree) Support in L2VPN Author(s) : Simon Delord Frederic Jounay Lu Huang Zhihua Liu Manuel Paul Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-05.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2013-07-29 Abstract: This document provides functional requirements for Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) support in multipoint L2VPN solutions (referred to as simply L2VPN). It is intended that potential solutions will use these requirements as guidelines. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-reqt-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From bhupesh@gainspeed.com Mon Jul 29 11:07:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A102E21F9CA4 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:07:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_21=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_31=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_41=0.6, MANGLED_OFF=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1rpCSLe-lPSF for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0211.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.211]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3382821F9C89 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BN1PRD0712HT003.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.255.196.36) by SN2PR07MB063.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.255.174.151) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.731.12; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:07:12 +0000 Received: from neptune (108.60.97.2) by pod51018.outlook.com (10.255.196.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.341.1; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:06:54 +0000 Received: by neptune (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0824828260E; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA18D28260D; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:06:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Bhupesh Kothari To: Jonathan Hardwick , , , , , , Subject: Re: Comments on draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-06 In-Reply-To: <09CE6C3BE5E1EA40B987BF5F25D8DDBAE10F81D8@ENFICSMBX1.datcon.co.uk> References: <09CE6C3BE5E1EA40B987BF5F25D8DDBAE10F81D8@ENFICSMBX1.datcon.co.uk> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.3; nmh 1.5; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:06:50 -0700 Message-ID: <28941.1375121210@neptune> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [108.60.97.2] X-Forefront-PRVS: 09222B39F5 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(51444003)(52044002)(51704005)(24454002)(199002)(51914003)(189002)(57986002)(74502001)(45336002)(31966008)(79102001)(74662001)(48376002)(83072001)(80976001)(54316002)(77156001)(1941001)(47776003)(81342001)(62966002)(74366001)(63696002)(56816003)(47446002)(49866001)(76786001)(69226001)(56776001)(51856001)(47736001)(74876001)(80022001)(83322001)(16406001)(76796001)(33716001)(19580395003)(19580405001)(46102001)(50466002)(66066001)(74706001)(59766001)(50226001)(77982001)(46386002)(47976001)(50986001)(53806001)(81542001)(65816001)(4396001)(62816003); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:SN2PR07MB063; H:BN1PRD0712HT003.namprd07.prod.outlook.com; CLIP:108.60.97.2; RD:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: gainspeed.com Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming@tools.ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:11:14 -0000 Hi Jon, Thanks for the detail review. My comments are inline. Bhupesh Jonathan Hardwick wrote: > Hi there > > > > I have reviewed this draft and have a few comments and questions. Please let > me know if any of it requires clarification. Generally, I think it looks good > and adds good function. > > > > Best regards > > Jon > > > > > > Section 1 > > ?Section 7 may > > someday discuss security considerations.? > > You should probably fix that before the security ADs see it J Will fix by next version. > > > > Section 1.1 > > It is intuitively quite easy to picture what a VPLS Site is, but I am confused > by its formal definition. > > > > ?A VPLS site is a grouping of ports on a PE that belong to > > the same VPLS domain.? > > > > is incompatible with > > > > ?A VPLS site connected to multiple PEs is called as multi-homed site.? > > > > since the former statement defines a VPLS Site to be a grouping of ports on a > single PE only. It does not say or imply that customer ports connect to only a single PE. All it is saying is that grouping of customer ports on a PE (within a VPLS domian) is a VPLS site. > The former statement also seems incomplete as it disallows a > situation where multiple customer sites in the same VPLS domain are > homed to a single PE router (which is clearly within the scope of > the draft). All procedures and explanation are in the context of a single VPLS domain as operation across VPLS domains is meaningless. Of course, you can have many VPLS domains (that maps to many customers) on a PE. > My intuitive understanding of a VPLS Site is something like a subset of a > customer network that would remain connected at layer 2 if the service provider > network were removed. I think the definition should be built around this > idea. This allows >1 site to connect to a single VE, and clarifies what is > really meant by a multi-homed VPLS site. The definitions are from the perspective of PE. Consider a VPLS domain with N customer facing ports. Whether those N ports are grouped in one, two or N sites is upto the operator (hopefully based on the actual customer network topology). However, no direct inference should be made simply based on how ports are grouped into sites. For example, two different customer locations single homed to the same PE can still be grouped together as one VPLS site on the PE. If you remove the PE (provider network), the two locations will not be able to communicate. If you have a better way of explaing the definitions, feel free to provide the text. > > > > Section 3.2 > > para 4 : > > > > ?If both CE1 and > > CE4 connectivity to PE1 is down, remote PEs can chose not to send > > multicast traffic to PE1 as there are no VPLS sites reachable via > > PE1.? > > > > Typo: s/chose/choose/ Will fix it. > This sentence implies that remote PE routers use the D bit in the CE > NLRI to decide that the sending PE router has lost connectivity to > all its sites. But, if it is optional to assign a CE ID to > single-homed sites then there is no way to know that there is not > another site, say CE5, hiding behind PE1. I think that the sentence > is misleading. Remote PE routers use the D bit in the VE NLRI, not > the CE NLRI, to make this decision. You are correct. I reword the paragraph. I'll add another section to further clarify what a local and remote PEs do when site connectivity is lost. > > > > Rather than connectivity going down, I think the more relevant case is when PE1 > loses the DF election for CE1. (This is discussed in section 3.4.) Both cases are equally relevant for the aspect of explaining what the procedures are. > In this case, the D bit will not be set. But, remote PE routers can > still decide not to send multicast traffic to PE1 when it loses the > DF election for CE1 provided that they are sure there are no other > sites that are homed to PE1. They cannot make this decision unless > a CE ID is assigned to CE4. Remote PEs must always send multicast traffic to PE1 unless PE1 advertises D bit in its VE NLRI. Note that if D bit is set in the VE NLRI, the complete VPLS instance is operationally down on PE1 and no traffic for that VPLS domain should be send to PE1. Multicast is a special case and it is not necessary to send multicast traffic to all VPLS sites, but how to achive that is outside the scope of this draft. This draft describes the defalt case of sending it all VPLS sites. The only time a remote PE can decide to not send is if D bit is set in VE NLRI. As I said before, I'll reword paragraph 4 of Section 3.2 and explain more about use of CE NLRIs and how to handle connectivity status updates. > I think the draft should give a stronger requirement on advertising CE-IDs for > single-homed sites. If a multi-homed site connects to a given PE router, then > any single-homed sites in the same VPLS domain that also connect to that PE > router MUST be configured with CE-IDs. Mandating to have CE-IDs for single homed sites can handle one case: to indicate to remote PEs that connectivity to all local sites is down. However, this can also be achived by simply advertising D bit in the VE NLRI. > > > > Section 3.3.1 > > Figure 3 ? alignment is off. Will fix it. > > > On this new text: > > > > ?Note that F bit is only applicable to VE NLRI and is not > > applicable to CE NLRI.? > > > > I think it?s the other way around ? the F bit is applicable in the CE NLRI and > not the VE NLRI. At least, that?s what it says in section 5.1. In the data path, there is no association of MAC addresses to remote VPLS sites. The association is between MAC addresses and PWs. In other words, a remote PE receiving the traffic simply creates an assocation of MACs to PWs. Therefore, when it is time to flush the MACs from a particular site, a PE cannot determine which MACs to flush and can only flush all the MACs assocated from the PE it received. This is explained in paragraph 2 for Section 5.1. However, paragraph 3 of Section 5.2 has a typo; it should be VE and not CE in context of F bit. I'll fix it. Note that how to flush limited set of MAC addresses is outside the scope of the draft. This is also mentioned in the draft. > > > Section 3.4 > > ?egress PEs? is a bit confusing. They can also be ingress PEs for traffic > going the other way... You mean the PEs that are not connected by an AC to the > multi-homed site. Egress PEs in this paragraph are in the context of PEs doing the DF election on processing the VPLS advertisements from the PEs that have multi-homed sites. I'll repharse the sentence. > > > > Section 6.1 > > Why not create PWs to all unique VEs? If you only choose one of them, won?t > you end up isolating all but one of the sites connected to the back-level PE? > Perhaps I am missing something. This section is for backwards compatibility. In exisiting implementations, a PE (for a particular VPLS domain) can advertise valid label blocks for multiple CE IDs as opposed to just the VE ID in this draft. To interop with existing behavior, Section 6.1 provides procedures on how to do it. Bhupesh From Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com Mon Jul 29 12:32:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C27511E8130 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:32:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.849 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.849 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.749, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_21=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_41=0.6, MANGLED_OFF=2.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wlXJict9P39m for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ENFIRHETS1.metaswitch.com (enfirhets1.metaswitch.com [192.91.191.166]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5011F21F96DA for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ENFICSCAS1.datcon.co.uk (172.18.4.13) by ENFIRHETS1.metaswitch.com (172.18.209.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:31:14 +0100 Received: from ENFICSMBX1.datcon.co.uk ([fe80::d5d5:c683:a3be:3a19]) by ENFICSCAS1.datcon.co.uk ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:31:20 +0100 From: Jonathan Hardwick To: Bhupesh Kothari Subject: RE: Comments on draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-06 Thread-Topic: Comments on draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming-06 Thread-Index: Ac6MVbIOcLfhpqykQbeCnBzM4i5CygAKFHcAAAL/bFA= Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:31:20 +0000 Message-ID: <09CE6C3BE5E1EA40B987BF5F25D8DDBAE10F839C@ENFICSMBX1.datcon.co.uk> References: <09CE6C3BE5E1EA40B987BF5F25D8DDBAE10F81D8@ENFICSMBX1.datcon.co.uk> <28941.1375121210@neptune> In-Reply-To: <28941.1375121210@neptune> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.18.34.184] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "senad.palislamovic@alcatel-lucent.com" , "florin.balus@alcatel-lucent.com" , "draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-multihoming@tools.ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:32:43 -0000 Hi Bhupesh Thanks for the quick reply. Please see some discussion inline below - look= for [JEH]...[/JEH]. Best regards Jon It does not say or imply that customer ports connect to only a single PE. All it is saying is that grouping of customer ports on a PE (within a VPLS domian) is a VPLS site. [JEH] OK, I think you have defined what a VPLS site is from the perspective= of one PE router, whereas I was thinking of it as a collection of CE devic= es. Anyway, I understand your definition now so we'll leave it. [/JEH] > The former statement also seems incomplete as it disallows a > situation where multiple customer sites in the same VPLS domain are > homed to a single PE router (which is clearly within the scope of > the draft). [JEH] For the record, apologies, my statement above is incorrect. Reading = it again, the definition of VPLS site does allow for multiple sites connect= ing to one PE. [/JEH] For example, two different customer locations single homed to the same PE can still be grouped together as one VPLS site on the PE. If you remove the PE (provider network), the two locations will not be able to communicate.=20 [JEH] OK, I had not appreciated that. [/JEH] If you have a better way of explaing the definitions, feel free to provide the text. [JEH] Here is a proposal for your consideration. This wording would have r= educed my initial confusion. A VPLS site is a grouping of ports on a PE that belong to the same VPLS domain. The terms "VPLS instance" and "VPLS domain" are used interchangeably in this document. If the CE devices that connect to a VPLS site's ports have connectivity to any other PE device then the VPLS site is called a multi-homed VPLS site. Otherwise, it is called a single-homed VPLS site. The terms "VPLS site" and "CE site" are used interchangeably in this document. One final question on the definition. Is it correct to say that no port on= a PE router can be in >1 VPLS site? If so I would add the following sente= nce to the definition above. The ports are partitioned between VPLS sites such that each port is in no more than one VPLS site. [/JEH] > In this case, the D bit will not be set. But, remote PE routers can > still decide not to send multicast traffic to PE1 when it loses the > DF election for CE1 provided that they are sure there are no other > sites that are homed to PE1. They cannot make this decision unless > a CE ID is assigned to CE4. Remote PEs must always send multicast traffic to PE1 unless PE1 advertises D bit in its VE NLRI. [JEH] But I think this contradicts section 3.4 which says: " If PE1 is the designated forwarder for CE1, based on the DF election result, PE3 can chose to not send unknown unicast and multicast traffic to PE2 as PE2 is not the designated forwarder for any customer site and it has no other single homed sites connected to it." So PE3 is using the DF election result, not the D bit, to decide not to sen= d multicast traffic to PE2. It seems that section 3.4 is not correct. If PE2 loses all of its DF elections, should it set the D bit in its VE NLR= I? I think not, because it still has connectivity. [/JEH] > =20 >=20 > On this new text: >=20 > =20 >=20 > ?Note that F bit is only applicable to VE NLRI and is not >=20 > applicable to CE NLRI.? >=20 > =20 >=20 > I think it?s the other way around ? the F bit is applicable in the CE NLR= I and > not the VE NLRI. At least, that?s what it says in section 5.1. In the data path, there is no association of MAC addresses to remote VPLS sites. The association is between MAC addresses and PWs. In other words, a remote PE receiving the traffic simply creates an assocation of MACs to PWs. Therefore, when it is time to flush the MACs from a particular site, a PE cannot determine which MACs to flush and can only flush all the MACs assocated from the PE it received. This is explained in paragraph 2 for Section 5.1. However, paragraph 3 of Section 5.2 has a typo; it should be VE and not CE in context of F bit. I'll fix it. [JEH] If the F bit is used in the VE NLRI and not the CE NLRI then I think = there is a problem. Apologies if I am missing something obvious, I am rela= tively new to this, but please consider this scenario. PE router PE1 is connected to two multihomed sites CE1 and CE2 and is DF fo= r both of them. It advertises VE NLRI with F bit 1. Now, some other PE router connects to CE2 and is elected the DF for CE2. P= E1 is not the DF for CE2 any more so it advertises the VE NLRI with F bit 0= , causing a flush of all MAC addresses on its peers. But it is still the D= F for CE1. Finally, some other router connects to CE1 and is elected DF for CE1. PE1 = is not the DF for CE1 any more so it needs to send another flush for all MA= C addresses. But it has already advertised its VE NLRI with F bit 0 so how= can it do this? Note that I am not talking about a MAC-list flush here. The requirement I = see is for PE1 to be able to flush all MAC addresses _each time_ it loses a= DF election. This works fine if the F bit is associated with the CE NLRI.= How does it work if the F bit is associated with the VE NLRI? [/JEH] =20