From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Tue Sep 3 07:13:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BD411E820F; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:13:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.509 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.509 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.091, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3XbwRPij9rGk; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4024211E81E4; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Subject: Last Call: (Multicast in VPLS) to Proposed Standard X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.70.p1 Sender: Message-ID: <20130903141352.32020.6102.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 07:13:52 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:13:53 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks WG (l2vpn) to consider the following document: - 'Multicast in VPLS' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-09-23. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract [RFC4761] and [RFC4762] describe a solution for Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) multicast that relies on the use of point-to-point or multipoint-to-point unicast Label Switched Paths (LSPs) for carrying multicast traffic. This solution has certain limitations for certain VPLS multicast traffic profiles. For example, it may result in highly non-optimal bandwidth utilization when large amount of multicast traffic is to be transported. This document describes a solution for overcoming a subset of the limitations of existing VPLS multicast solution. It describes procedures for VPLS multicast that utilize multicast trees in the service provider (SP) network. The solution described in this document allows sharing of one such multicast tree among multiple VPLS instances. Furthermore, the solution described in this document allows a single multicast tree in the SP network to carry traffic belonging only to a specified set of one or more IP multicast streams from one or more VPLS instances. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast/ballot/ The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D: http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1939/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1117/ From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Tue Sep 3 08:51:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C5521E817E; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:51:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.082, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8uJ+ZdvWRC2F; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9C311E81F4; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Subject: Document Action: 'Extensions to VPLS PE model for Provider Backbone Bridging' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-pe-model-07.txt) X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.70.p1 Message-ID: <20130903155100.30442.75483.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:51:00 -0700 Cc: l2vpn mailing list , l2vpn chair , RFC Editor X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:51:01 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Extensions to VPLS PE model for Provider Backbone Bridging' (draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-pe-model-07.txt) as Informational RFC This document is the product of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Stewart Bryant and Adrian Farrel. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-pe-model/ Technical Summary The draft documents extensions to the VPLS PE model required to incorporate desirable IEEE PBB (Provider Backbone Bridges) components, such as enhanced scalability in terms of number of customer MAC addresses and number of service instances, whilst maintaining the Service Provider alignment of VPLS - which has been deployed on a large scale in many Service Provider networks. Working Group Summary This document is an L2VPN Working Group document, and has been well reviewed in the working group through multiple iterations of the draft. It has been essentially stable since WG adoption in May 2009. Document Quality The document is concise (13 pages of which about 6 are substantive - the rest being introduction, terminology, references and acknowledgements) and is stable. There are multiple interoperable implementations by multiple vendors. Personnel Document Shepherd: Giles Heron (giheron@cisco.com) Area Director: Stewart Bryant (stbryant@cisco.com) From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Tue Sep 3 09:32:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA21B11E81B7; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:32:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nxMlZf3F-5jJ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D93A11E80E9; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Subject: Last Call: (VPLS Interoperability with Provider Backbone Bridges) to Informational RFC X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.70.p1 Sender: Message-ID: <20130903163235.21008.312.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:32:35 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 16:32:36 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks WG (l2vpn) to consider the following document: - 'VPLS Interoperability with Provider Backbone Bridges' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-09-24. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract The scalability of H-VPLS with Ethernet access networks can be improved by incorporating Provider Backbone Bridge functionality in the VPLS access. Provider Backbone Bridging has been standardized as IEEE 802.1ah-2008, and aims to improve the scalability of MAC addresses and service instances in Provider Ethernet networks. This document describes different interoperability scenarios where Provider Backbone Bridge functionality is used in H-VPLS with Ethernet or MPLS access network to attain better scalability in terms of number of customer MAC addresses and number of service instances. The document also describes the scenarios and the mechanisms for incorporating Provider Backbone Bridge functionality within H-VPLS with existing Ethernet access and interoperability among them. Furthermore, the document discusses the migration mechanisms and scenarios by which Provider Backbone Bridge functionality can be incorporated into H-VPLS with existing MPLS access. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop/ballot/ The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D: http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/984/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1497/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1251/ From thomas.morin@orange.com Thu Sep 5 07:41:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD41E11E81B5 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 07:41:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.825 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.825 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.173, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NU7YfpP1LEr4 for ; 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creation-date="Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:40:52 GMT"; modification-date="Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:40:52 GMT" Content-ID: X-Identity-Key: id1 X-Account-Key: account1 Message-ID: <5228967A.4000404@orange.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:34:34 +0200 From: Organization: Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: , Subject: Poll for adoption: draft-zzhang-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Hello working group, This email starts a two-week poll on possible adoption of draft-zzhang-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-00 [1] as a working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons). *** Note that what is proposed is that this document becomes a common foundation for the already adopted L3VPN multicast MIB (draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-mib) and for an L2VPN multicast MIB. Hence, the L2VPN will be noticed and asked for feedback on the adoption of this document. *** This poll runs until September 13th. *Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). ==> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* please respond to this email whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the L3VPN WG mailing list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thank you, Martin & Thomas l3vpn chairs [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zzhang-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-00 --_002_AC1ADC68A92CF94FA8CFCB406C1CBE3D075AD377PEXCVZYM13corpo_-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Sep 6 02:30:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D614D21E80DF; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 02:30:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.558 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.558 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.042, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ST9oMck6YFjl; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 02:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C973221F9343; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 02:30:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-frwk-03.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.70.p1 Message-ID: <20130906093053.11566.34652.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 02:30:53 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 09:30:55 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working = Group of the IETF. Title : A Framework for E-Tree Service over MPLS Network Author(s) : Raymond Key Simon Delord Frederic Jounay Lucy Yong Lizhong Jin Yuji Kamite Wim Henderickx Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-frwk-03.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2013-09-06 Abstract: This document proposes a solution framework for supporting Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) Ethernet Tree (E-Tree) services over a Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) network. The objective is to provide a simple and effective approach to emulate E-Tree services in addition to Ethernet LAN (E-LAN) services on an existing MPLS network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-frwk There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-frwk-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-frwk-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From giles.heron@gmail.com Fri Sep 6 05:48:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FF421F9E39 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 05:48:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02RTHw4wgC6r for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 05:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ea0-x232.google.com (mail-ea0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B944421F9E13 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 05:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f178.google.com with SMTP id a15so1580315eae.37 for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:48:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=7/RuPNftEfRIhRK+w5sdNzG6WJzZ6QnaU5Nvzu3I0gM=; b=sqlRIFnQCuqpguewCOSSKe8r/z8DaeQ19G2fbqM7WC4dJv64UfaoJQkkgPgNAPSX2n pbarOWR48FpDA1U1Lzq5Xnv96c7Qx3tT12XcxKIXNfzlYMu/tOo9fP2S3cU1OskyPyEl a0D5dD89wkch7E/G3NPfFP1REg5Vc6ZqKmGixKGRmTdtZFk+gc1cJGjq0zc5hdIm6rfy 4ojBFMY0nEIFluznkbVr5rF+Q/ccwGEM920nbp7B0e7zVKb11TTrRJAQXXB9tgE76Rc9 BQnfl1MVFDBra5U4lsdyLiEwf3sIE4eF8jQLja2wUA5xJndPs1KqwD3w3hVfxrIXpq+E 6/lw== X-Received: by 10.14.175.2 with SMTP id y2mr37951eel.83.1378471714883; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams3-vpn-dhcp4650.cisco.com (173-38-208-169.cisco.com. [173.38.208.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f49sm696352eec.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Fwd: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy From: Giles Heron Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:48:32 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2CBA354E-9D68-47FE-818C-76D27BAB82A4@gmail.com> References: <130C6FE1-3DE1-401D-8F13-6B508D0F5952@gmail.com> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 12:48:36 -0000 We didn't get any responses to this last call. So we're reinitiating a 2 week last call on this draft. Please comment = by Friday 20th November. Nabil & Giles Begin forwarded message: > From: Giles Heron > Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy > Date: 12 July 2013 16:38:18 BST > To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" > Cc: Nabil Bitar >=20 > This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >=20 > = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-0= 2 >=20 > please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for = publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG. >=20 > this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013. >=20 > Nabil & Giles From giles.heron@gmail.com Fri Sep 6 05:49:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF8011E8176 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 05:49:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XWYDKnEFWEzn for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 05:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-x230.google.com (mail-ee0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c00::230]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1402911E8137 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 05:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f48.google.com with SMTP id l10so1583592eei.21 for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:49:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Qh5ZHz12ND5hu1ZREZsvdRtZArvQsjxvwICwlBjW0bM=; b=XgKFqQxBrXE/VGZM/T0dwz5YgLXQVwiu6RARLCBniiE7qpaqGmpAXQ1t/unEXnb4cr JsTJP/2JKmb6lnHzlZHdwOiygIgEwgu0Qm5r1DFzXyoHe+9kQKFgNCiOTn4S6g1PGBWM xjQH9H03U8bE5oavhY8SkOWFpFRWxQjqVW6ZAxPPjIWwVQkEcr/vIZOESKjGrmYnKS0a 4rQXwhqHaUP+vSC2IlnL7o5tE167oHLKZGoefr75936IlNhYa5bGpDfHiwAcEIYMONmu u4mEdyN/cdExD+PAIBO68fBKUswUzkQCU1gtQlEAFLT1qrLEgjOhyVF3E3Z8JBvgxnPN AHYA== X-Received: by 10.14.224.7 with SMTP id w7mr45012eep.82.1378471795079; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams3-vpn-dhcp4650.cisco.com (173-38-208-169.cisco.com. [173.38.208.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x47sm791721eea.16.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy From: Giles Heron In-Reply-To: <2CBA354E-9D68-47FE-818C-76D27BAB82A4@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:49:53 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <94C8F19C-D07C-4627-B76A-B5605D10882B@gmail.com> References: <130C6FE1-3DE1-401D-8F13-6B508D0F5952@gmail.com> <2CBA354E-9D68-47FE-818C-76D27BAB82A4@gmail.com> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 12:49:58 -0000 Clearly I meant to say Friday 20th September, not November! On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:48, Giles Heron wrote: > We didn't get any responses to this last call. >=20 > So we're reinitiating a 2 week last call on this draft. Please = comment by Friday 20th November. >=20 > Nabil & Giles >=20 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 >> From: Giles Heron >> Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy >> Date: 12 July 2013 16:38:18 BST >> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" >> Cc: Nabil Bitar >>=20 >> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >>=20 >> = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-0= 2 >>=20 >> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for = publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG. >>=20 >> this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013. >>=20 >> Nabil & Giles >=20 From yakov@juniper.net Sun Sep 8 12:30:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8927B21E80C3 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:30:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.469 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.469 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.530, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NpfoLSj0Fv14 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co9outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (co9ehsobe004.messaging.microsoft.com [207.46.163.27]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD09821E80BE for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail160-co9-R.bigfish.com (10.236.132.253) by CO9EHSOBE006.bigfish.com (10.236.130.69) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:30:52 +0000 Received: from mail160-co9 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail160-co9-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC452402CF; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:30:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:66.129.224.54; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:P-EMF01-SAC.jnpr.net; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -17 X-BigFish: VPS-17(zcb8k551biz1432Izz1f42h208ch1ee6h1de0h1fdah2073h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ah1fc6hzz1033IL17326ah1de097h186068h8275dhz2fh2a8h839h944hf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh162dh1631h1758h18e1h1946h19b5h1ad9h1b0ah1b2fh1fb3h1d0ch1d2eh1d3fh1dfeh1dffh1fe8h1ff5h1155h) Received-SPF: pass (mail160-co9: domain of juniper.net designates 66.129.224.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.129.224.54; envelope-from=yakov@juniper.net; helo=P-EMF01-SAC.jnpr.net ; SAC.jnpr.net ; Received: from mail160-co9 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail160-co9 (MessageSwitch) id 1378668650237031_23481; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO9EHSMHS005.bigfish.com (unknown [10.236.132.231]) by mail160-co9.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD2C4A004F; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from P-EMF01-SAC.jnpr.net (66.129.224.54) by CO9EHSMHS005.bigfish.com (10.236.130.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:30:49 +0000 Received: from magenta.juniper.net (172.17.27.123) by P-EMF01-SAC.jnpr.net (172.24.192.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:30:48 -0700 Received: from juniper.net (sapphire.juniper.net [172.17.28.108]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id r88JUkL53599; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yakov@juniper.net) Message-ID: <201309081930.r88JUkL53599@magenta.juniper.net> To: Subject: Re: Call for adoption *in L3VPN* on an L2/L3 multicast VPN MIB draft In-Reply-To: <18023_1378392053_522897F5_18023_9727_1_AC1ADC68A92CF94FA8CFCB406C1CBE3D075AD377@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <5228967A.4000404@orange.com> <18023_1378392053_522897F5_18023_9727_1_AC1ADC68A92CF94FA8CFCB406C1CBE3D075AD377@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> X-MH-In-Reply-To: message dated "Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:40:52 -0000." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <27408.1378668646.1@juniper.net> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:30:46 -0700 From: Yakov Rekhter X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "draft-zzhang-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib@tools.ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 19:30:58 -0000 Thomas, > Hi L2VPN, > > The *L3VPN* working group is currently running a call for adoption on > draft-zzhang-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-00 [1]. > > What is proposed is that this document becomes a common foundation for > the already adopted L3VPN multicast MIB (draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-mib) and > for an L2VPN multicast MIB (not yet an L2VPN WG item). > > Please send comments to the L3VPN mailing-list to support or oppose the > adoption of this document by L3VPN (in the later case, please also state > the reasons). > > The call for adoption runs until September 20th. Support. Yakov. > > Thank you, > > Thomas & Martin > l3vpn chairs > > [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zzhang-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-00 > From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Tue Sep 10 08:59:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C96C21E8158; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:59:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.005, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xPeZbGT0SXDf; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9325421E8167; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:57:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-l2vpn-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-06.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.71.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130910155701.7394.77176.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:57:01 -0700 Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:59:50 -0000 --NextPart A new Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF. Title : Extension to LDP-VPLS for Ethernet Broadcast and Multicast Author(s) : F. JOUNAY, et al Filename : draft-ietf-l2vpn-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten Pages : 19 Date : Sept. 10, 2013 This document proposes a simple extension to LDP-VPLS to improve bandwidth efficiency for Ethernet broadcast/multicast traffic within a carrier's network. It makes use of unidirectional point-to-multipoint PseudoWires to minimise payload frame duplication on physical links. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-l2vpn-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-06.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-l2vpn-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2013-09-10085658.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From giles.heron@gmail.com Mon Sep 16 05:07:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB4F11E821B for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:07:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q60qTrMoUYmz for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ye0-x234.google.com (mail-ye0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c04::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C0311E8220 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ye0-f180.google.com with SMTP id m15so1669766yen.11 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:07:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=W2lDHvDT8n0sTFxyPz7GsLkCLzb3WqUW95wcDBXuoC0=; b=rjkrdghKPRkFCGu6EO1xfaD4i7cyGVRtVKTg8k3muqZnEbwloTUBRdOLQigp5QMYOK JndL1dkeNwCcOYqAvrEONf7sy/xr8+l5C02BFnGav6hgV95NXSRINasGtRD/MneotThd LqA7pbD42UYeK8Mi2h0ohvoHMIRjEK7cobUdzLJWD8N6lgItUtE2DiFTSja7+dKggS7N qZTXCGcBXHq059MtEg64KtTBd7mPhbdNguNNP/+NGwpxergJKUjW7JjRAD3snHFaEVEV WwjDbmvgwAmGw6A/saDlCpzYihUxVOeSSc5IYIvrjmsKAp1Mnjpzia08IQKNmJ/PHv9U 6F+Q== X-Received: by 10.236.133.193 with SMTP id q41mr8356133yhi.51.1379333261021; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-lon06-vla300-10-148-89-33.cisco.com (173-38-208-169.cisco.com. [173.38.208.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c44sm37505595yho.20.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy From: Giles Heron In-Reply-To: <94C8F19C-D07C-4627-B76A-B5605D10882B@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:07:36 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1C3AB76F-98C3-4085-9285-297FBB4F0F3C@gmail.com> References: <130C6FE1-3DE1-401D-8F13-6B508D0F5952@gmail.com> <2CBA354E-9D68-47FE-818C-76D27BAB82A4@gmail.com> <94C8F19C-D07C-4627-B76A-B5605D10882B@gmail.com> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:07:42 -0000 A gentle reminder that the deadline for this one is this Friday and = we've still had no comments. Nabil & Giles. On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:49, Giles Heron wrote: > Clearly I meant to say Friday 20th September, not November! >=20 > On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:48, Giles Heron wrote: >=20 >> We didn't get any responses to this last call. >>=20 >> So we're reinitiating a 2 week last call on this draft. Please = comment by Friday 20th November. >>=20 >> Nabil & Giles >>=20 >> Begin forwarded message: >>=20 >>> From: Giles Heron >>> Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy >>> Date: 12 July 2013 16:38:18 BST >>> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" >>> Cc: Nabil Bitar >>>=20 >>> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >>>=20 >>> = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-0= 2 >>>=20 >>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for = publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG. >>>=20 >>> this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013. >>>=20 >>> Nabil & Giles >>=20 >=20 From ssalam@cisco.com Fri Sep 20 14:37:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A007F21F9ECE for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:37:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id upzVipnrzYmO for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD4A21F9E9D for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:37:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1365; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1379713037; x=1380922637; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=Is9HbrHGvW0D8q2KrNE+bCaPlxmbQQ5VykJW7WzHG90=; b=M1ubzLOtxxb/PJzt360nwoOLLRKf79rK2wSzGYkGDGUWxCN+dy51qkVF +sYD5oeUlGG2y9+dBbGI+ENB6dDQJgyI2DXQBwcwJLgWurnhAtEqAFdZC n335JYHevKSwVCIKDX6c2e7GFjnlTVQg5cNyWqDLzn2y3jXt0rHowiwnE I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgQFAFK/PFKtJV2c/2dsb2JhbABbgmYhOFLBX4EbFnSCJQEBAQQdHVEBCBEDAQIBChQxER0IAgQBEgiHawMPAQuwfQ2Jaox3gSWBGDgGgxiBAAOWE4MYixSFM4MkgXE5 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,947,1371081600"; d="scan'208";a="262553373" Received: from rcdn-core-5.cisco.com ([173.37.93.156]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Sep 2013 21:37:16 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com [173.36.12.76]) by rcdn-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r8KLbGWV025086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 20 Sep 2013 21:37:16 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com ([173.36.12.76]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:37:16 -0500 From: "Samer Salam (ssalam)" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy Thread-Topic: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy Thread-Index: AQHOfxXbsaEFlVm4AEmrsR3g7LFbz5m5ALVRgABUGoCAD6uAAIAGcx6A Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 21:37:15 +0000 Message-ID: <8F25FF8EA49D164EBE5F1B5AD33F3BC9216905B4@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <1C3AB76F-98C3-4085-9285-297FBB4F0F3C@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [161.44.210.111] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <678FCE70419C344AA989C8FEAEF3BEAC@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 21:37:23 -0000 Support as co-author. Regards, Samer On 13-09-16 5:07 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >A gentle reminder that the deadline for this one is this Friday and we've >still had no comments. > >Nabil & Giles. > >On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:49, Giles Heron wrote: > >> Clearly I meant to say Friday 20th September, not November! >>=20 >> On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:48, Giles Heron wrote: >>=20 >>> We didn't get any responses to this last call. >>>=20 >>> So we're reinitiating a 2 week last call on this draft. Please >>>comment by Friday 20th November. >>>=20 >>> Nabil & Giles >>>=20 >>> Begin forwarded message: >>>=20 >>>> From: Giles Heron >>>> Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy >>>> Date: 12 July 2013 16:38:18 BST >>>> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" >>>> Cc: Nabil Bitar >>>>=20 >>>> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundanc >>>>y-02 >>>>=20 >>>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for >>>>publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG. >>>>=20 >>>> this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013. >>>>=20 >>>> Nabil & Giles >>>=20 >>=20 > From sajassi@cisco.com Fri Sep 20 16:46:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0110421F9EB8 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:46:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lb9V0VX3MJ-d for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2556E21F9E3B for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:46:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1349; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1379720808; x=1380930408; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=Ec1bVx7o8p1BOKZudX9rO+TvVsUbjuopzUPpMQmjxXU=; b=BiGBF9/9NKifSK0O6Zjy1OwyM0mgA4gHtj++P/iaFv7J4dBZXyza7Tue WLg9rvhFiM9GWBP/pbLfPZScJVJcbswWnrzJ2hG5QiYB2k012tvYV1Skw sapjnXR0PucD5e615LsVBhRMQ2uI6Nn7BmyGsyl3OdT4sU9qfo8HVyyYM o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFAObdPFKtJV2c/2dsb2JhbABagmYhOFLBX4EbFnSCJQEBAQQdHVEBCBEDAQIBChQxER0IAgQBEgiHawMPAQuxDA2Jaox3gSWBGDgGgxiBAAOWE4MYixSFM4MkgXE5 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,948,1371081600"; d="scan'208";a="262599528" Received: from rcdn-core-5.cisco.com ([173.37.93.156]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Sep 2013 23:46:37 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com [173.37.183.81]) by rcdn-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r8KNkbL4021832 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 20 Sep 2013 23:46:37 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com ([173.37.183.81]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:46:37 -0500 From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy Thread-Topic: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy Thread-Index: AQHOfxXeLUxNysNV6U2FD5ONJBcL1pm5ALVPgABUGoCAD6uAAIAGl0cA Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 23:46:36 +0000 Message-ID: <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B215B6E4A@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <1C3AB76F-98C3-4085-9285-297FBB4F0F3C@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.4.130416 x-originating-ip: [10.21.83.87] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <906B8378DD58DD4296DCE5BA2F1F63DA@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 23:46:58 -0000 Support Cheers, Ali On 9/16/13 5:07 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >A gentle reminder that the deadline for this one is this Friday and we've >still had no comments. > >Nabil & Giles. > >On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:49, Giles Heron wrote: > >> Clearly I meant to say Friday 20th September, not November! >>=20 >> On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:48, Giles Heron wrote: >>=20 >>> We didn't get any responses to this last call. >>>=20 >>> So we're reinitiating a 2 week last call on this draft. Please >>>comment by Friday 20th November. >>>=20 >>> Nabil & Giles >>>=20 >>> Begin forwarded message: >>>=20 >>>> From: Giles Heron >>>> Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy >>>> Date: 12 July 2013 16:38:18 BST >>>> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" >>>> Cc: Nabil Bitar >>>>=20 >>>> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundanc >>>>y-02 >>>>=20 >>>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for >>>>publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG. >>>>=20 >>>> this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013. >>>>=20 >>>> Nabil & Giles >>>=20 >>=20 > From dcai@cisco.com Fri Sep 20 16:49:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0509121F9C00 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:49:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ciCCdKb94CCC for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB44621F9D1C for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:49:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1545; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1379720963; x=1380930563; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=QcmN5eyHrgUSMSgAzLc1CnJ/a2VsvnJElBLDbuxWTMs=; b=ivh8Eqo88fMbjqKouqhBXixG93j7aPt5+eXBArbhIur9Nmw8ASroxD5e LeHfmVNRktmbQNz7AHLjwS066fiWtkouGk4zWzyVe/PSuj1A8q9XJ8IqA MygGIwm1mmWXnjzHkudV7vbeB6FWOBgADgcWBrCI46kI7cOQJHJzcBTkF A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFAH3ePFKtJXG9/2dsb2JhbABagwc4RsFrgRsWdIIlAQEBAwEdHT8QAgEIEQMBAgEeECERHQgCBA4Fh3MDCQYMsQwNiWqMd4ElgRYzBwaDGIEAA5YTgWmBL4sUhTODJIFx X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,948,1371081600"; d="scan'208";a="262698490" Received: from rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com ([173.37.113.189]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Sep 2013 23:49:23 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com [173.37.183.78]) by rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r8KNnNcU013232 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 20 Sep 2013 23:49:23 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x05.cisco.com ([169.254.15.100]) by xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com ([fe80::200:5efe:173.37.183.34%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:49:22 -0500 From: "Dennis Cai (dcai)" To: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy Thread-Topic: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy Thread-Index: AQHOfxXeOngZT+RK8kGF3OlYF96uyZm5ALXrgABUGoCAD6uAAIAHDKAA//+s9BU= Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 23:49:22 +0000 Message-ID: <67F1640C-F426-483E-9653-DFE2BBC594E1@cisco.com> References: <1C3AB76F-98C3-4085-9285-297FBB4F0F3C@gmail.com>, <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B215B6E4A@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <69670F7146898C4583F56DA9AD32F77B215B6E4A@xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 23:49:33 -0000 Support=20 Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:47 PM, "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" wr= ote: >=20 > Support >=20 > Cheers, > Ali >=20 > On 9/16/13 5:07 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >=20 >> A gentle reminder that the deadline for this one is this Friday and we'v= e >> still had no comments. >>=20 >> Nabil & Giles. >>=20 >> On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:49, Giles Heron wrote: >>=20 >>> Clearly I meant to say Friday 20th September, not November! >>>=20 >>> On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:48, Giles Heron wrote: >>>=20 >>>> We didn't get any responses to this last call. >>>>=20 >>>> So we're reinitiating a 2 week last call on this draft. Please >>>> comment by Friday 20th November. >>>>=20 >>>> Nabil & Giles >>>>=20 >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>=20 >>>>> From: Giles Heron >>>>> Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy >>>>> Date: 12 July 2013 16:38:18 BST >>>>> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" >>>>> Cc: Nabil Bitar >>>>>=20 >>>>> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redunda= nc >>>>> y-02 >>>>>=20 >>>>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for >>>>> publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG. >>>>>=20 >>>>> this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Nabil & Giles >=20 From lizho.jin@gmail.com Sat Sep 21 07:07:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8C311E81CB for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:07:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.274 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.274 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.325, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gF5rzSDs99vM for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qc0-x235.google.com (mail-qc0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D5721F83EF for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id q4so954065qcx.40 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:06:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iTVkR/Y6az2rNlTv6zDjUftlt4dPRVGa7kzTRIOt8G0=; b=XCBtfxoyC80uzjDv4yVZkIDtBXZtzOePUzTQjY9BaLpL41CbMmGL99t8QYHxrCKeNm kXnO2PUQ9dmVNEvqrQ2vG7f6Q9kl9lmobyLzMDb/OuCgk//IaiJCbnAPuzMFBb+t2CW7 JnhLuJj3Cc8WkSAfblfOIHaE43yad0avXRH1sxvBQOJ+aJQXr3bDEglQljJPeRwIAIf5 uIYUQo/BaL9Nim5+B/++Tm0LD4Ku91f49HIGgNfpyp6HTsPYgrASkRmv73XxzAQMf8TL 9/xD45S7kjPctvMEKVWgDthBTZgisq1WpBotIjmc/JRfKLVnsB4eYqp3OjNT/XaRUepw naKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.75.200 with SMTP id z8mr11870030qaj.71.1379772396638; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.3.225 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.3.225 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 22:06:36 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy From: Lizhong Jin To: l2vpn@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c30c1e92941e04e6e54bed X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 14:07:11 -0000 --001a11c30c1e92941e04e6e54bed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Support as co-author. Regards Lizhong > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:07:36 +0100 > From: Giles Heron > To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy > Message-ID: <1C3AB76F-98C3-4085-9285-297FBB4F0F3C@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > A gentle reminder that the deadline for this one is this Friday and we've still had no comments. > > Nabil & Giles. > > On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:49, Giles Heron wrote: > > > Clearly I meant to say Friday 20th September, not November! > > > > On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:48, Giles Heron wrote: > > > >> We didn't get any responses to this last call. > >> > >> So we're reinitiating a 2 week last call on this draft. Please comment by Friday 20th November. > >> > >> Nabil & Giles > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >>> From: Giles Heron > >>> Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy > >>> Date: 12 July 2013 16:38:18 BST > >>> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" > >>> Cc: Nabil Bitar > >>> > >>> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: > >>> > >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02 > >>> > >>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG. > >>> > >>> this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013. > >>> > >>> Nabil & Giles > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > L2vpn mailing list > L2vpn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2vpn > > > End of L2vpn Digest, Vol 112, Issue 6 > ************************************* --001a11c30c1e92941e04e6e54bed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,
Support as co-author.

Regards
Lizhong

>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:07:36 +0100
> From: Giles Heron <giles.h= eron@gmail.com>
> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" &= lt;l2vpn@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy=
> Message-ID: <1C3AB76F-98C3-4085-9285-297FBB4F0F3C@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
>
> A gentle reminder that the deadline for this one is this Friday and we= 've still had no comments.
>
> Nabil & Giles.
>
> On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:49, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Clearly I meant to say Friday 20th September, not November!
> >
> > On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:48, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> We didn't get any responses to this last call.
> >>
> >> So we're reinitiating a 2 week last call on this draft. = =A0Please comment by Friday 20th November.
> >>
> >> Nabil & Giles
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> From: Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-r= edundancy
> >>> Date: 12 July 2013 16:38:18 BST
> >>> To: "l2vpn@ietf.or= g" <l2vpn@ietf.org> > >>> Cc: Nabil Bitar <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com>
> >>>
> >>> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for:
> >>>
> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-= vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-02
> >>>
> >>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this = draft for publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG.
> >>>
> >>> this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013.
> >>>
> >>> Nabil & Giles
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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>
> End of L2vpn Digest, Vol 112, Issue 6
> *************************************

--001a11c30c1e92941e04e6e54bed-- From chen.ran@zte.com.cn Sat Sep 21 20:18:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116F311E8202 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:18:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pmxd7iXQQ6Dx for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (mx5.zte.com.cn [63.217.80.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F9411E80A2 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (unknown [192.168.168.119]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTP id 76C30128CFA4 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:18:31 +0800 (CST) Received: from mse01.zte.com.cn (unknown [10.30.3.20]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 054D070A47A; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:18:30 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse01.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id r8M3ITG1035048; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:18:29 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from chen.ran@zte.com.cn) To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: chen.ran@zte.com.cn Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:18:22 +0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.3FP1 HF212|May 23, 2012) at 2013-09-22 11:18:04, Serialize complete at 2013-09-22 11:18:04 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0012274A48257BEE_=" X-MAIL: mse01.zte.com.cn r8M3ITG1035048 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 03:18:46 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0012274A48257BEE_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Support. Regards, Ran > On 9/16/13 5:07 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: > >> A gentle reminder that the deadline for this one is this Friday and we've >> still had no comments. >> >> Nabil & Giles. >> >> On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:49, Giles Heron wrote: >> >>> Clearly I meant to say Friday 20th September, not November! >>> >>> On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:48, Giles Heron wrote: >>> >>>> We didn't get any responses to this last call. >>>> >>>> So we're reinitiating a 2 week last call on this draft. Please >>>> comment by Friday 20th November. >>>> >>>> Nabil & Giles >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Giles Heron >>>>> Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy >>>>> Date: 12 July 2013 16:38:18 BST >>>>> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" >>>>> Cc: Nabil Bitar >>>>> >>>>> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundanc >>>>> y-02 >>>>> >>>>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for >>>>> publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG. >>>>> >>>>> this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013. >>>>> >>>>> Nabil & Giles > --=_alternative 0012274A48257BEE_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Support.

Regards,
Ran

> On 9/16/13 5:07 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A gentle reminder that the deadline for this one is this Friday and we've
>> still had no comments.
>>
>> Nabil & Giles.
>>
>> On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:49, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Clearly I meant to say Friday 20th September, not November!
>>>
>>> On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:48, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We didn't get any responses to this last call.
>>>>
>>>> So we're reinitiating a 2 week last call on this draft.  Please
>>>> comment by Friday 20th November.
>>>>
>>>> Nabil & Giles
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy
>>>>> Date: 12 July 2013 16:38:18 BST
>>>>> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
>>>>> Cc: Nabil Bitar <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundanc
>>>>> y-02
>>>>>
>>>>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for
>>>>> publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG.
>>>>>
>>>>> this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nabil & Giles
>
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<201309241426.r8OEQxL66983@magenta.juniper.net> To: "Black, David" Subject: Re: Transport Directorate review of: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14 In-Reply-To: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE712025DBB6FE1@MX15A.corp.emc.com> References: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE712025DBB6FE1@MX15A.corp.emc.com> X-MH-In-Reply-To: "Black, David" message dated "Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:02:17 -0400." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-unknown" Content-ID: <16598.1380032818.1@juniper.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 07:26:58 -0700 From: Yakov Rekhter X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:39:38 -0700 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "ietf@ietf.org" , yakov@juniper.net, "y.kamite@ntt.com" , "tsv-dir@ietf.org" , "raggarwa_1@yahoo.com" , "stbryant@cisco.com" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:27:34 -0000 David, > I've reviewed this document as part of the transport area directorate's > ongoing effort to review key IETF documents. These comments were written > primarily for the transport area directors, but are copied to the > document's authors for their information and to allow them to address > any issues raised. When done at the time of IETF Last Call, the authors > should consider this review together with any other last-call comments > they receive. Please always CC =E2=80=8Btsv-dir@ietf.org if you reply to= or > forward this review. Thanks for your review. > Document: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14 > Reviewer: David L. Black > Review Date: September 23, 2012 > IETF LC End Date: September 23, 2012 > = > Summary: This draft is basically ready for publication, but has nits tha= t > should be fixed before publication. > = > This draft describes multicast optimizations for VPLS via use of MPLS > multicast distribution trees within the service provider (SP) network. > = > In general, the techniques in this draft are an improvement, as they > should typically result in reduction of SP network traffic required > to carry the same level of multicast traffic originating from the VPLS > edges. I have reviewed primarily for transport-related topics; while > I don't have the expertise to review for MPLS and VPLS concerns, I'm > confident in the expertise of this author team in those technologies. = > = > I found a couple of items that are effectively editorial: > = > (1) The techniques in this draft appear to add an MPLS label to the > stack in order to identify the MPLS multicast tree. Does that added > label raise any MTU concerns in practice? No more than any other use of label stacking (and there are plenty of other uses of label stacking). Furthermore, rfc3032 ("MPLS Label = Stack Encoding") does cover the MTU issue. > = > (2) Two techniques used by this draft - replication of traffic within > a multicast tree, and flooding of traffic (section 14) - could be > employed as traffic amplifiers in denial of service attacks. A short > discussion of this possibility and the applicability of countermeasures > described in this draft, RFC 4761 and/or RFC 4762 would be good to > add to the security considerations section. The Security Consideration section already talks about 4761 and 4762: Security considerations discussed in [RFC4761] and [RFC4762] apply to this document. = Suggestion on any additional text would be greatly appreciated. Yakov. > ---------------------------------------------------- > David L. 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(envelope-from yakov@juniper.net) Message-ID: <201309250013.r8P0DJL72247@magenta.juniper.net> To: "Black, David" Subject: Re: Transport Directorate review of: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14 In-Reply-To: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE712025DBB7163@MX15A.corp.emc.com> References: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE712025DBB6FE1@MX15A.corp.emc.com> <201309241426.r8OEQxL66983@magenta.juniper.net> <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE712025DBB7163@MX15A.corp.emc.com> X-MH-In-Reply-To: "Black, David" message dated "Tue, 24 Sep 2013 13:33:01 -0400." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-unknown" Content-ID: <33677.1380067999.1@juniper.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:13:19 -0700 From: Yakov Rekhter X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "ietf@ietf.org" , Yakov Rekhter , "y.kamite@ntt.com" , "tsv-dir@ietf.org" , "raggarwa_1@yahoo.com" , "stbryant@cisco.com" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 00:13:52 -0000 David, > Yakov, > = > First of all, thank you for overlooking the "off-by-one" error on > the year :-) - > = > > > Review Date: September 23, 2012 > > > IETF LC End Date: September 23, 2012 > = > Of course, 2013 was intended, twice ;-). :-) > On the two items (both are editorial, IMHO): > = > > > (1) The techniques in this draft appear to add an MPLS label to the > > > stack in order to identify the MPLS multicast tree. Does that added > > > label raise any MTU concerns in practice? > > = > > No more than any other use of label stacking (and there are plenty > > of other uses of label stacking). > = > I concur, which is why I noted this item as editorial - I don't think > it's an actual issue. > = > > Furthermore, rfc3032 ("MPLS Label > > Stack Encoding") does cover the MTU issue. > = > A sentence to that effect (lots of uses of label stacking, MTU effects > are both well understood and not a problem in practice) with a > reference to RFC 3032 should suffice. How about if I'll add the following at the end of 5.5: Aggregation procedures would require two labels stack. This does not introduce any new implications on MTU, as even VPLS multicast supported by ingress replication requires two labels stack. > > > (2) Two techniques used by this draft - replication of traffic withi= n > > > a multicast tree, and flooding of traffic (section 14) - could be > > > employed as traffic amplifiers in denial of service attacks. A shor= t > > > discussion of this possibility and the applicability of countermeasu= res > > > described in this draft, RFC 4761 and/or RFC 4762 would be good to > > > add to the security considerations section. > > = > > The Security Consideration section already talks about 4761 and 4762: > > = > > Security considerations discussed in [RFC4761] and [RFC4762] apply = to > > this document. > > = > > Suggestion on any additional text would be greatly appreciated. > = > I'd suggest an initial sentence: > = > Replication of traffic within a multicast tree, and flooding > of traffic (see section 14) could be employed as traffic > amplifiers in denial of service attacks. I'll add this. > Followed by a sentence or sentences that list a few important applicable > countermeasures (your choice), explaining why each is applicable and > indicating where each is described (this document, RFC 4761 or RFC 4762)= . I would greately appreciated if you would help me with "a sentence or sentences" to cover this. I don't think RFC4761 or RFC4762 describe any of such countermeasures. Yakov. > = > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Yakov Rekhter [mailto:yakov@juniper.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:27 AM > > To: Black, David > > Cc: tsv-dir@ietf.org; raggarwa_1@yahoo.com; y.kamite@ntt.com; > > lufang@cisco.com; yakov@juniper.net; ietf@ietf.org; l2vpn@ietf.org; > > stbryant@cisco.com; yakov@juniper.net > > Subject: Re: Transport Directorate review of: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mc= ast-1 4 > > = > > David, > > = > > > I've reviewed this document as part of the transport area directorat= e's > > > ongoing effort to review key IETF documents. These comments were wri= tten > > > primarily for the transport area directors, but are copied to the > > > document's authors for their information and to allow them to addres= s > > > any issues raised. When done at the time of IETF Last Call, the auth= ors > > > should consider this review together with any other last-call commen= ts > > > they receive. Please always CC =E2=80=8Btsv-dir@ietf.org if you repl= y to or > > > forward this review. > > = > > Thanks for your review. > > = > > > Document: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14 > > > Reviewer: David L. Black > > > Review Date: September 23, 2012 > > > IETF LC End Date: September 23, 2012 > > > > > > Summary: This draft is basically ready for publication, but has nits= that > > > should be fixed before publication. > > > > > > This draft describes multicast optimizations for VPLS via use of MPL= S > > > multicast distribution trees within the service provider (SP) networ= k. > > > > > > In general, the techniques in this draft are an improvement, as they > > > should typically result in reduction of SP network traffic required > > > to carry the same level of multicast traffic originating from the VP= LS > > > edges. I have reviewed primarily for transport-related topics; whil= e > > > I don't have the expertise to review for MPLS and VPLS concerns, I'm > > > confident in the expertise of this author team in those technologies= . > > > > > > I found a couple of items that are effectively editorial: > > > > > > (1) The techniques in this draft appear to add an MPLS label to the > > > stack in order to identify the MPLS multicast tree. Does that added > > > label raise any MTU concerns in practice? > > = > > No more than any other use of label stacking (and there are plenty > > of other uses of label stacking). Furthermore, rfc3032 ("MPLS Label > > Stack Encoding") does cover the MTU issue. > > = > > > > > > (2) Two techniques used by this draft - replication of traffic withi= n > > > a multicast tree, and flooding of traffic (section 14) - could be > > > employed as traffic amplifiers in denial of service attacks. A shor= t > > > discussion of this possibility and the applicability of countermeasu= res > > > described in this draft, RFC 4761 and/or RFC 4762 would be good to > > > add to the security considerations section. > > = > > The Security Consideration section already talks about 4761 and 4762: > > = > > Security considerations discussed in [RFC4761] and [RFC4762] apply = to > > this document. > > = > > Suggestion on any additional text would be greatly appreciated. > > = > > Yakov. > > = > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > David L. Black, Distinguished Engineer > > > EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA=C2=A0 01748 > > > +1 (508) 293-7953=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 FAX: +1 (508) 293-7786 > > > david.black@emc.com=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mobile= : +1 (978) 394-7754 > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > = > = From david.black@emc.com Wed Sep 25 09:17:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33ED321F9D0A; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:17:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.496 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.496 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.103, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with 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PiA+ID4NCj4gPiA+ID4NCj4gPg0KPiA+DQoNCg== From yakov@juniper.net Wed Sep 25 09:29:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378FE11E8119; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:29:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.172 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.172 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.427, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P178IcBBYGA5; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co9outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (co9ehsobe003.messaging.microsoft.com [207.46.163.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3481F21F9E96; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail148-co9-R.bigfish.com (10.236.132.250) by 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <62173.1380126534.1@juniper.net> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:28:54 -0700 From: Yakov Rekhter X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "ietf@ietf.org" , Yakov Rekhter , "y.kamite@ntt.com" , "tsv-dir@ietf.org" , "raggarwa_1@yahoo.com" , "stbryant@cisco.com" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:29:08 -0000 David, > Yakov, > > > How about if I'll add the following at the end of 5.5: > > > > Aggregation procedures would require two labels stack. > > This does not introduce any new implications on MTU, > > as even VPLS multicast supported by ingress > > replication requires two labels stack. > > Sure, minor suggestion - "two labels stack" -> "two MPLS labels > in the label stack" (twice). Ok. > > > I'd suggest an initial sentence: > > > > > > Replication of traffic within a multicast tree, and flooding > > > of traffic (see section 14) could be employed as traffic > > amplifiers in denial of service attacks. > > > > I'll add this. > > Ok, but see below for a combined text suggestion that includes ... > > > > Followed by a sentence or sentences that list a few important applicable > > > countermeasures (your choice), explaining why each is applicable and > > > indicating where each is described (this document, RFC 4761 or RFC 4762). > > > > I would greatly appreciated if you would help me with "a sentence > > or sentences" to cover this. I don't think RFC4761 or RFC4762 > > describe any of such countermeasures. > > The security considerations section already contains this sentence: > > As mentioned in [RFC4761], there are two aspects to achieving data > privacy and protect against denial-of-service attacks in a VPLS: > securing the control plane and protecting the forwarding path. > > The rest of that paragraph covers data privacy and black-holing. Perhaps > just extend the last sentence, e.g.,: > > OLD > In addition, compromise of the control plane could result in black- > holing VPLS multicast data. > NEW > In addition, compromise of the control plane could result in black- > holing VPLS multicast data and could provide opportunities for > unauthorized VPLS multicast usage (e.g., exploiting traffic > replication within a multicast tree to amplify a denial of > service attack based on sending large amounts of traffic). That is fine. Thanks for the text ! Yakov. From matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com Thu Sep 26 07:57:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C7411E8107; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 07:57:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v6Ioh4I-2TQG; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 07:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail4.lucent.com (ihemail4.lucent.com [135.245.0.39]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B54421F90FD; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 07:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fr711usmtp1.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-239-2-122.lucent.com [135.239.2.122]) by ihemail4.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id r8QEujd0023581 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:56:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr711wxchhub01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.111]) by fr711usmtp1.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id r8QEuiQu029784 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:56:44 +0200 Received: from FR711WXCHMBA05.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.1.189]) by FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.111]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:56:44 +0200 From: "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" To: "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Subject: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14.txt Thread-Topic: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14.txt Thread-Index: AQHOusidkjPsQsSshkKENDZ/YCqdgQ== Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:56:43 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.7.130812 x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.38] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CE6A09B851BF0matthewboccialcatellucentcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.39 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast@tools.ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:57:32 -0000 --_000_CE6A09B851BF0matthewboccialcatellucentcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/routing.html Since IETF LC has ended for this draft, I am primarily providing comments t= o aid the ADs, and I hope the authors will also take them into consideration = to improve the readability of the draft. Document: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14.txt Reviewer: Matthew Bocci Review Date: 26 September 2013 IETF LC End Date: date-if-known Intended Status: Proposed Standard Summary: I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be resol= ved before publication. Comments: The draft appears to be complete and accurate form a technical perspective.= However, the style of the draft and the density of the text make it quite difficult = to read at times. It took several passes of some sections of the document, and= returning to earlier sections, to properly follow the text. I believe this is because= the basic multicast architecture could be better-explained earlier in the draft. Major Issues: No major issues found. Minor Issues: 1) The draft contains both introductory architectural / framework descriptions, and more detailed specifications of the protocols required to efficiently support multicast in VPLS. However, the introductory sectio= ns (e.g. the overview in section 5) are presented in the form of extremely dense text, = and while they seem to be trying to explain architectural concepts, they do not use = a single diagram to help the reader visualise the solutions in the draft. In fact, = the first figures illustrating the protocol hierarchies and relationships do not app= ear until the label stacks are described in Section 13 on page 43. I think inserting some figures in section 5 to illustrate the different mu= lticast schemes, and also moving the data forwarding section earlier in the docume= nt, would greatly help the reader. 2) Cross-references in the text use the title of the referenced section, bu= t do not include a section number. Personally, I found that this made the draft much= more difficult to navigate than it should be. It would help to add section numbers to each= instance of a cross reference. Nits: Abstract, 2nd paragraph, 1st sentence: s/solution/solutions Section 3: This section would be clearer of it was in tabular form, in a si= milar manner to other RFCs. You could also add short (one sentence) definitions of 'Inclusive Trees', '= Selective Trees', and 'Aggregation'. Sec 4. Introduction: 3rd para: s/when large/when a large Sec 4. Introduction: 5th para: s/RSVP-PE/RSVP-TE Sec 5.2. BGP-Based VPLS Membership Auto-Discovery: 1st para: s/that have membership these/that have membership of these Sec 5.4 Advertising P-Multicast..., 2nd para: Grammar: The decision to bind a set of VPLS instances or customer multicast= group is local to the ingress PE matter, / The decision to bind a set of VPLS instan= ces or customer multicast groups is a local matter for the ingress PE , Sec 5.4 Advertising P-Multicast..., 3rd para: s/be included. / be included Section 5.5 Aggregation: The following algorithm is hard to parse: + ((Average number of VPLS instances on a PE / Aggregation Factor) * number of PEs) / (Average number of P-Multicast trees that transit a given P router) I think this could be restated in a more readable manner. Just as an exampl= e: AveVPLS NPE ------- X -------- Aggr AvePTree Where: AveVPLS is the average number of VPLS instances on a PE Aggr is the aggregation factor NPE is the number of PEs AvePTree is the average number of P-multicast that transit a giv= en P-router Section 6: Inter-AS Inclusive P-Multicast..., 5th Paragraph This paragraph mentions FEC128 and FEC 129. It would be better to call thes= e by their formal names used in RFC4447 i.e. The PWid FEC and the Generalized PWid FEC --_000_CE6A09B851BF0matthewboccialcatellucentcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0DEE01CFF6B6B543AB429FA4AECEFD2A@exchange.lucent.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draf= t.
The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related=
drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and
sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide<= /div>
assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing<= /div>
Directorate, please see
http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/routing.html

Since IETF LC has ended for this draft, I am primarily providing comme= nts to 
aid the ADs, and I hope the authors will also take them into considera= tion to improve 
the readability  of the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14.txt
Reviewer: Matthew Bocci 
Review Date: 26 September 2013
IETF LC End Date: date-if-known 
Intended Status: Proposed Standard 

Summary:

I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be = resolved before
publication. 

Comments:

The draft appears to be complete and accurate form a technical perspec= tive. However,
the style of the draft and the density of the text make it quite diffi= cult to 
read at times. It took several passes of some sections of the document= , and returning 
to earlier sections, to properly follow the text. I believe this is be= cause the basic
multicast architecture could be better-explained earlier in the draft.=

Major Issues:

No major issues found. 

Minor Issues:

1) The draft contains both introductory architectural / framework = ;
descriptions, and more detailed specifications of the protocols requir= ed
to efficiently support multicast in VPLS.  However, the introduct= ory sections (e.g. the
 overview in section 5) are presented in the form of extremely de= nse text, and while 
 they seem to be trying to explain architectural concepts, they d= o not use a single 
 diagram to help the reader visualise the solutions in the draft.= In fact, the first
 figures illustrating the protocol hierarchies and relationships = do not appear until the
 label stacks are described in Section 13 on page 43. 
 
 I think inserting some figures in section 5 to illustrate the di= fferent multicast 
 schemes, and also moving the data forwarding section earlier in = the document, would 
 greatly help the reader.  

2) Cross-references in the text use the title of the referenced sectio= n, but do not
include a section number. Personally, I found that this made the draft= much more difficult 
to navigate than it should be. It would help to add section numbers to= each instance of
a cross reference.

 
Nits:

Abstract, 2nd paragraph, 1st sentence:
s/solution/solutions

Section 3: This section would be clearer of it was in tabular form, in= a similar manner 
to other RFCs. 

You could also add short (one sentence) definitions of 'Inclusive Tree= s', 'Selective 
Trees', and 'Aggregation'.


Sec 4. Introduction: 3rd para:
s/when large/when a large

Sec 4. Introduction: 5th para:
s/RSVP-PE/RSVP-TE

Sec 5.2. BGP-Based VPLS Membership Auto-Discovery: 1st para:
s/that have membership these/that have membership of these

Sec 5.4 Advertising P-Multicast..., 2nd para:
Grammar: The decision to bind a set of VPLS instances or customer mult= icast group is 
local to the ingress PE matter, / The decision to bind a set of VPLS i= nstances or 
customer multicast groups is a local matter for the ingress PE ,

Sec 5.4 Advertising P-Multicast..., 3rd para:
s/be included. / be included

Section 5.5 Aggregation:

The following algorithm is hard to parse:
+ ((Average number of VPLS instances on a PE / Aggregation Factor)=
       * number of PEs) / (Average number of P-Mul= ticast trees that
       transit a given P router)
       
I think this could be restated in a more readable manner. Just as an e= xample:
      AveVPLS            = NPE
      -------    X    --------
        Aggr          Ave= PTree 
        
    Where: AveVPLS is the average number of VPLS instances o= n a PE
           Aggr is the aggregation facto= r
           NPE is the number of PEs
           AvePTree is the average numbe= r of P-multicast that transit a given P-router
           
Section 6: Inter-AS Inclusive P-Multicast..., 5th Paragraph
This paragraph mentions FEC128 and FEC 129. It would be better to call= these by their
formal names used in RFC4447 i.e. The PWid FEC and the Generalized PWi= d FEC   

           



--_000_CE6A09B851BF0matthewboccialcatellucentcom_-- From giles.heron@gmail.com Fri Sep 27 05:36:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7785911E8149 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 05:36:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v7nfAsnJfteM for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 05:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ea0-x22a.google.com (mail-ea0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::22a]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F9311E814F for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 05:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f170.google.com with SMTP id h14so1194199eak.15 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 05:36:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=NXgqt34Dhi+9EHDWe9olsnc7eGp3PziWuS1ZjAxd1qI=; b=rGokD2mkUTJOdllWweAo0mwwWbX6JTaC6JBCMZ64eDL0MY9CNF0qqsB9dDV6YeqXmK RvSshhNBz85AOZnRKazhPb+dP3I8aPJuyhs3Yj7YqR5r/MFhRtvzSRfs+krRWvsu4nyX wIC6ovLPR2yN2N4GwCOIvwZ9Bvh402GOlDlXNQS3mwJ/uiTHxXIL3B6XHaC4v5GXfO1k Ky0iPhbzaeGMpxyJtwV/Zc5ySApVDlqkAEHA6TBnm7vUTEOtnMm9XzaZXhWtWeAbwvoK nqWbLdCkTtwJv2iv5F/Soz1mOY9UmMcrEJdke+7u5tHJC6BC4he82TXL/ywvqQgZE+ug qLLQ== X-Received: by 10.14.174.8 with SMTP id w8mr26237eel.84.1380285390923; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 05:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.61.193.158] (173-38-208-169.cisco.com. 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We'll now go ahead and start the shepherding process to progress this to = RFC. Nabil & Giles On 16 Sep 2013, at 13:07, Giles Heron wrote: > A gentle reminder that the deadline for this one is this Friday and = we've still had no comments. >=20 > Nabil & Giles. >=20 > On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:49, Giles Heron wrote: >=20 >> Clearly I meant to say Friday 20th September, not November! >>=20 >> On 6 Sep 2013, at 13:48, Giles Heron wrote: >>=20 >>> We didn't get any responses to this last call. >>>=20 >>> So we're reinitiating a 2 week last call on this draft. Please = comment by Friday 20th November. >>>=20 >>> Nabil & Giles >>>=20 >>> Begin forwarded message: >>>=20 >>>> From: Giles Heron >>>> Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-inter-domain-redundancy >>>> Date: 12 July 2013 16:38:18 BST >>>> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" >>>> Cc: Nabil Bitar >>>>=20 >>>> This email initiates an L2VPN WG Last Call for: >>>>=20 >>>> = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-0= 2 >>>>=20 >>>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for = publication as a BCP RFC from the L2VPN WG. >>>>=20 >>>> this last call will close on Friday 26th July 2013. >>>>=20 >>>> Nabil & Giles >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 From yakov@juniper.net Sun Sep 29 17:07:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F80811E8102; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:07:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.238 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.238 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.639, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HaXxIdtPqPHT; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from db9outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (mail-db9lp0250.outbound.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.250]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4263821F9FA5; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail201-db9-R.bigfish.com (10.174.16.245) by DB9EHSOBE028.bigfish.com (10.174.14.91) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:07:30 +0000 Received: from mail201-db9 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail201-db9-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B0BE00A3; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:07:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:66.129.224.54; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:P-EMF01-SAC.jnpr.net; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -21 X-BigFish: VPS-21(zzec9I1432Idbf2izz1f42h208ch1ee6h1de0h1fdah2073h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ah1fc6hzz1033IL17326ah1de097h186068h1d68deh8275dhz2fh2a8h839h944hf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh162dh1631h1758h18e1h1946h19b5h1ad9h1b0ah1b2fh1fb3h1d0ch1d2eh1d3fh1dfeh1dffh1fe8h1ff5h1155h) Received-SPF: pass (mail201-db9: domain of juniper.net designates 66.129.224.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.129.224.54; envelope-from=yakov@juniper.net; helo=P-EMF01-SAC.jnpr.net ; SAC.jnpr.net ; Received: from mail201-db9 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail201-db9 (MessageSwitch) id 1380499647738838_711; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB9EHSMHS028.bigfish.com (unknown [10.174.16.250]) by mail201-db9.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64E0140258; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from P-EMF01-SAC.jnpr.net (66.129.224.54) by DB9EHSMHS028.bigfish.com (10.174.14.38) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:07:27 +0000 Received: from magenta.juniper.net (172.17.27.123) by P-EMF01-SAC.jnpr.net (172.24.192.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:07:25 -0700 Received: from juniper.net (sapphire.juniper.net [172.17.28.108]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id r8U07ML16896; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:07:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yakov@juniper.net) Message-ID: <201309300007.r8U07ML16896@magenta.juniper.net> To: "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" Subject: Re: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14.txt In-Reply-To: References: X-MH-In-Reply-To: "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" message dated "Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:56:43 -0000." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <78461.1380499641.1@juniper.net> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:07:21 -0700 From: Yakov Rekhter X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , yakov@juniper.net, "draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:07:39 -0000 Matthew, > Hello, > > I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. > The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related > drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and > sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide > assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing > Directorate, please see > http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/routing.html > > Since IETF LC has ended for this draft, I am primarily providing comments t= > o > aid the ADs, and I hope the authors will also take them into consideration = > to improve > the readability of the draft. Thanks for your review and comments. > Document: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-14.txt > Reviewer: Matthew Bocci > Review Date: 26 September 2013 > IETF LC End Date: date-if-known > Intended Status: Proposed Standard > > Summary: > > I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should > be resolved before publication. > > Comments: > > The draft appears to be complete and accurate form a technical perspective.= > However, > the style of the draft and the density of the text make it quite difficult = > to > read at times. It took several passes of some sections of the document, and= > returning > to earlier sections, to properly follow the text. I believe this is because= > the basic > multicast architecture could be better-explained earlier in the draft. > > Major Issues: > > No major issues found. > > Minor Issues: > > 1) The draft contains both introductory architectural / framework > descriptions, and more detailed specifications of the protocols required > to efficiently support multicast in VPLS. However, the introductory sections > (e.g. the overview in section 5) are presented in the form of extremely > dense text, and while > they seem to be trying to explain architectural concepts, they do not use > a single diagram to help the reader visualise the solutions in the draft. > In fact, the first > figures illustrating the protocol hierarchies and relationships do not > appear until the > label stacks are described in Section 13 on page 43. > > I think inserting some figures in section 5 to illustrate the different > multicast schemes, and also moving the data forwarding section earlier in > the document, would greatly help the reader. Wrt "inserting some figures in section 5", I would be glad to do this, provided you elaborate a bit on what specific figures you would like to insert. Wrt moving the data forwarding section earlier in the document, the placement of the data forwarding section follows the structure of rfc6513. > 2) Cross-references in the text use the title of the referenced section, bu= > t do not > include a section number. Personally, I found that this made the draft much= > more difficult > to navigate than it should be. It would help to add section numbers to each= > instance of > a cross reference. This will be fixed as part of the RFC Editor process. > Nits: > > Abstract, 2nd paragraph, 1st sentence: > s/solution/solutions Fixed. > Section 3: This section would be clearer of it was in tabular form, > in a similar manner to other RFCs. I would prefer to keep it in the present form, as there are plenty of other RFCs that have similar form. > You could also add short (one sentence) definitions of 'Inclusive Trees', '= > Selective Trees', and 'Aggregation'. Will do. > Sec 4. Introduction: 3rd para: > s/when large/when a large Fixed. > Sec 4. Introduction: 5th para: > s/RSVP-PE/RSVP-TE Fixed. > Sec 5.2. BGP-Based VPLS Membership Auto-Discovery: 1st para: > s/that have membership these/that have membership of these Fixed. > Sec 5.4 Advertising P-Multicast..., 2nd para: > Grammar: The decision to bind a set of VPLS instances or customer multicast= > group is > local to the ingress PE matter, / The decision to bind a set of VPLS instan= > ces or > customer multicast groups is a local matter for the ingress PE , Fixed. > Sec 5.4 Advertising P-Multicast..., 3rd para: > s/be included. / be included Fixed. > Section 5.5 Aggregation: > > The following algorithm is hard to parse: > + ((Average number of VPLS instances on a PE / Aggregation Factor) > * number of PEs) / (Average number of P-Multicast trees that > transit a given P router) > > I think this could be restated in a more readable manner. Just as an exampl= > e: > AveVPLS NPE > ------- X -------- > Aggr AvePTree > > Where: AveVPLS is the average number of VPLS instances on a PE > Aggr is the aggregation factor > NPE is the number of PEs > AvePTree is the average number of P-multicast that transit a giv= en P-router > Will fix. > Section 6: Inter-AS Inclusive P-Multicast..., 5th Paragraph > This paragraph mentions FEC128 and FEC 129. It would be better to call thes= > e by their > formal names used in RFC4447 i.e. The PWid FEC and the Generalized PWid FEC Will fix. Yakov. 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Nabil & Giles= From david.i.allan@ericsson.com Mon Sep 30 11:19:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695C721F9D70 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:19:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VUfp7lqu8dcO for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg20.ericsson.net (usevmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112AA21F9D55 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:19:20 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c618062d-b7fda8e0000024c6-cd-5249c0a6b65d Received: from EUSAAHC006.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.90]) by usevmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id A0.23.09414.6A0C9425; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:19:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB105.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.122]) by EUSAAHC006.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.90]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:19:18 -0400 From: David Allan I To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: RE: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn Thread-Topic: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn Thread-Index: AQHOvgWyZxg1Y92AGkGlF9F3ghpVypnelwaw Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:19:18 +0000 Message-ID: References: <00389807-3589-47BC-98FF-462CEAA22378@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <00389807-3589-47BC-98FF-462CEAA22378@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.134] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrELMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPlO7yA55BBrsvCVk8PTqD0eLxt0Ps DkweO2fdZfdYsuQnUwBTFJdNSmpOZllqkb5dAlfGw1UrmAuus1Rsm/iGvYHxNXMXIyeHhICJ xPpDh9khbDGJC/fWs3UxcnEICRxllJi+9DYjhLOcUWJ1z0mwKjYBA4k9/78wgtgiAl4SN//f A7OFBWwlpjQ1skDE7SQuXTzABGEbSax6+wosziKgKrFy529WEJtXwFeidf1/sF4hARuJOzen gs3nBJrz9stxsOsYgS76fmoN2BxmAXGJW0/mM0FcKiCxZM95qA9EJV4+/scKYStLLHmynwWi Xkdiwe5PbBC2tsSyhRAf8woISpyc+YRlAqPoLCRjZyFpmYWkZRaSlgWMLKsYOUqLU8ty040M NjEC4+GYBJvuDsY9Ly0PMUpzsCiJ83556xwkJJCeWJKanZpakFoUX1Sak1p8iJGJg1OqgbFa /87Usn23j/Mr6q6p0E8+1n/uaNdPBh7JyT8aP54sF1MUav71Xz6nocrAryvgWBHHKp/gbdqv fPbNqp3uyub67/077mU89sEfDISd/3I+UBD7Vf1iYr7Gd4Z7AUf8z60yzOf5XS3xcUlb7pNr E/fbdfdaO5+J35wkuWtNHmeo2Zw7P5b8/qTEUpyRaKjFXFScCABR7LsPVQIAAA== X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:19:26 -0000 Support - as co-author! Cheers Dave -----Original Message----- From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of G= iles Heron Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:51 AM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-04 should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft. please review the draft and respond to the list by Monday 14th October with= comments as to its suitability, or not, for WG adoption. Nabil & Giles From jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com Mon Sep 30 11:21:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F6B21F9B35 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:21:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.406 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.406 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.193, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K0SzRE3NGE7n for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC5E21F88DD for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:20:57 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-b7fe28e000000d82-10-5249c108a424 Received: from EUSAAHC001.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.75]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 1B.43.03458.801C9425; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:20:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB109.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.126]) by EUSAAHC001.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.75]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:20:46 -0400 From: Jeff Tantsura To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn Thread-Topic: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn Thread-Index: AQHOvgWyMooarB29aUSNV0vw7gTAbpne2ikA//+LDYA= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:20:45 +0000 Message-ID: <60DEDD93F5E54B4AB55647B8B6C74839943E50@eusaamb109.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.5.121010 x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.135] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrFLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXSPty7nQc8ggwv/eSyeHp3BaPH42yF2 ByaPnbPusnssWfKTKYApissmJTUnsyy1SN8ugSvj/OrbzAXPWSraN9xkbGD8xdzFyMkhIWAi MXnFBHYIW0ziwr31bF2MXBxCAkcZJaZ/vgXlLGeUePxiHxtIFZuAgcT/b8dZQGwRAS+Jm//v MYLYwgK2Ele+fGKGiNtJXLp4gAnCtpLY09kC1ssioCrxd8ZasG28At4SHx9eA6vnFPCTePJq HyuIzQh0xfdTa8B6mQXEJW49mc8EcZ2AxJI956GuFpV4+fgfWL2ogJ5E27EzUB8oS3yf84gF oldHYsHuT2wQtrXEmc/dzBC2tsSyha+ZIW4QlDg58wnLBEaxWUjWzULSPgtJ+ywk7bOQtC9g ZF3FyFFanFqWm25kuIkRGD/HJNgcdzAu+GR5iFGag0VJnPfLW+cgIYH0xJLU7NTUgtSi+KLS nNTiQ4xMHJxSDYxrK9fpKs2qS8+os5fybZivp9+R1sA77WdL3qarLTKxqw3i2hYzNLy4ddX7 ys7Qn7adC3755pmdO+MS/box7db1XINGvd2SnT+YU97Gx2jdijxxO1pK4OMCjl+Zbcm3vS8m +07/v2ftfC93l30n2K63Oyo//b5kSnvPgll9WqlcV0Ty/n/1WajEUpyRaKjFXFScCAAdHjp/ bQIAAA== X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:21:03 -0000 Support as co-author. Thanks, Jeff >-----Original Message----- >From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >Giles Heron >Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:51 AM >To: l2vpn@ietf.org >Subject: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn > >This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-04 > >should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft. > >please review the draft and respond to the list by Monday 14th October >with comments as to its suitability, or not, for WG adoption. > >Nabil & Giles From gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com Mon Sep 30 11:23:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4636D21F9C52 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:23:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LSWInxGBG-fu for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4D921F88DD for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:23:24 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-b7fe28e000000d82-f4-5249c19cbde1 Received: from EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.81]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id EC.73.03458.C91C9425; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:23:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.81]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:23:23 -0400 From: Gregory Mirsky To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: RE: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn Thread-Topic: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn Thread-Index: AQHOvgWyNlZNkkKYWEefgjTwkIHWAJnemBhQ Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:23:23 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF1121B6F15A4@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: <00389807-3589-47BC-98FF-462CEAA22378@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <00389807-3589-47BC-98FF-462CEAA22378@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.134] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrPLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPoO6cg55BBn9OS1g8PTqD0eLxt0Ps DkweO2fdZfdYsuQnUwBTFJdNSmpOZllqkb5dAlfGsycfWQousFSs2LSOvYHxCXMXIweHhICJ xMGzTl2MnECmmMSFe+vZuhi5OIQEjjJKfL2zjxnCWc4ocXf2W1aQKjYBI4kXG3vYQWwRAS+J m//vMYLYwgK2ElOaGlkg4nYSly4eYAJZIAJUv/6JJkiYRUBVYlXDFkaQMK+Ar8S/+S4gYSEB G4k7N6eCTeQEmvL2y3FmEJsR6J7vp9YwgdjMAuISt57MZ4K4U0BiyZ7zzBC2qMTLx/9YIWxl iSVP9rNA1OtILNj9iQ3C1pZYtvA1WD2vgKDEyZlPWCYwis5CMnYWkpZZSFpmIWlZwMiyipGj tDi1LDfdyHATIzASjkmwOe5gXPDJ8hCjNAeLkjjvl7fOQUIC6YklqdmpqQWpRfFFpTmpxYcY mTg4pRoYo577v3eJ0zqs/G7LXk92VoPSjxI5v855X0p/VDnDQruuNXvFDSelb8oNqSaS/6wZ zjS+vFi6+SJDTItjz+smZdW84M5mH5vPhyZeX2wru8RkS8fV5atvrrr7wdA1PvuVMCO/lWtd Qez0tgij3adf3eGzs2WoXSb2Z4PmbEOxH9UvTv19wGCgxFKckWioxVxUnAgAFCbImVICAAA= X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:23:32 -0000 yes/support Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of G= iles Heron Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:51 AM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-04 should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft. please review the draft and respond to the list by Monday 14th October with= comments as to its suitability, or not, for WG adoption. Nabil & Giles From paul@unbehagen.net Mon Sep 30 13:49:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE8421F9E70 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:49:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nukb-HWs4T12 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oa0-f43.google.com (mail-oa0-f43.google.com [209.85.219.43]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4846B21F9E68 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id f4so4156868oah.2 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:49:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=2uitCpKMv9ZPWmatA+gAdkDHdMtj9N1YvyBiT4DOipU=; b=C8xr9U1BEa/5S5xRkPXUcuwW2yl9rI0HdYIghlRGRu6ewcWPoOD5ceV5srtbheUqUb MKmZRimjDxrFFmEQwBznlT9n4YMuBxh7mhzYT183IDCDuD9n5Gy+HseH6yfpWF4jlYWk bZVQgJqLaIkbPqX3jAlTimsTIH//OzI3t6eoBBVVC6mdJRsrayXKstvy7VLNYpKyRhwd qkei+u3TlqWpRLl4eFBiO8o86J10zJ2iWkH/KubpHmDo5p3fSMTYC/VkHrTxV60V1i5m prJcWD49LSqY0/E0rOK+A6PV2ZOmmXc//eTjgjcjdXkj/935FCjYL5VA1KDGBU//9naL ZDPg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnPdAWhSk2oEOMlpL4xRAK3X7x0sojkwbGRt/qIUzhD0QljYJ8OR/9hCrZLbh2PnXw8sE8J X-Received: by 10.60.160.197 with SMTP id xm5mr2251374oeb.53.1380574153253; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.180.167.175] (mobile-198-228-195-040.mycingular.net. [198.228.195.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u8sm3371161obd.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:49:11 -0700 (PDT) References: <00389807-3589-47BC-98FF-462CEAA22378@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <00389807-3589-47BC-98FF-462CEAA22378@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11A4449d) From: Paul Unbehagen Subject: Re: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:49:08 -0400 To: Giles Heron Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:49:27 -0000 Support Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 30, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Giles Heron wrote: >=20 > This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-04 >=20 > should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft. >=20 > please review the draft and respond to the list by Monday 14th October wit= h comments as to its suitability, or not, for WG adoption. >=20 > Nabil & Giles From davari@broadcom.com Mon Sep 30 15:19:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3445C21F995E for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:19:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87Dl6+dDcTKI for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mms2.broadcom.com (mms2.broadcom.com [216.31.210.18]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B1D21F937E for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.9.208.53] by mms2.broadcom.com with ESMTP (Broadcom SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.5)); Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:12:28 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: 4500596E-606A-40F9-852D-14843D8201B2 Received: from SJEXCHCAS07.corp.ad.broadcom.com (10.16.203.16) by IRVEXCHCAS06.corp.ad.broadcom.com (10.9.208.53) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.438.0; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:18:58 -0700 Received: from SJEXCHMB12.corp.ad.broadcom.com ( [fe80::bc15:c1e1:c29a:36f7]) by SJEXCHCAS07.corp.ad.broadcom.com ( [::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0438.000; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:18:53 -0700 From: "Shahram Davari" To: "Giles Heron" Subject: Re: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn Thread-Topic: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn Thread-Index: AQHOvgWtNlZNkkKYWEefgjTwkIHWAJne2gvX Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 22:18:52 +0000 Message-ID: References: <00389807-3589-47BC-98FF-462CEAA22378@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <00389807-3589-47BC-98FF-462CEAA22378@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 7E5728C61R096142911-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 22:19:24 -0000 Support. Regards, Shahram On Sep 30, 2013, at 1:21 PM, "Giles Heron" wrote: > This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-04 >=20 > should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft. >=20 > please review the draft and respond to the list by Monday 14th October wi= th comments as to its suitability, or not, for WG adoption. >=20 > Nabil & Giles From wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Sep 30 20:46:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BD621F9A4A for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:46:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Raq4U8l6mp8I for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail3.lucent.com (ihemail3.lucent.com [135.245.0.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC74521F9928 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-239-2-42.lucent.com [135.239.2.42]) by ihemail3.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id r913jkq1015667 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 30 Sep 2013 22:45:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr712wxchhub03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.74]) by fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id r913jhlO014872 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:45:43 +0200 Received: from FR711WXCHMBA07.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.3.193]) by FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.74]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:45:43 +0200 From: "Henderickx, Wim (Wim)" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn Thread-Topic: WG adoption call for draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn Thread-Index: AQHOvgWyMOikIcjVIEmeqODrb6o5apnfNVcA Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 03:45:43 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00389807-3589-47BC-98FF-462CEAA22378@gmail.com> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.7.130812 x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.39] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0420504C5EE667478F8BDBCD115F61D0@exchange.lucent.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.37 X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 03:46:22 -0000 support On 30/09/13 19:51, "Giles Heron" wrote: >This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether: > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-allan-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-04 > >should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft. > >please review the draft and respond to the list by Monday 14th October >with comments as to its suitability, or not, for WG adoption. > >Nabil & Giles