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From: "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" <zzhang@juniper.net>
To: "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com>, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06. Poll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond
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As a co-author, I want to report that Juniper filed US Patent Application N=
o. 13/943,292 for the Relay Mode specified in the draft.

An IETF IPR Disclosure has been filed, though there is a trouble ticket wit=
h the submission:

  From: IETF-IPR via RT [mailto:ietf-ipr@ietf.org]=20
  Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 5:42 PM
  To: Heidi Woods
  Subject: [www.ietf.org/rt #65781] AutoReply: Juniper's Statement of IPR

Thanks.
Jeffrey

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:41 AM
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> vhemige@gmail.com; Ray Qiu; Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang;
> olivier.dornon@alcatel-lucent.com
> Subject: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06.
> Poll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-
> l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in order to ensure
> that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs
> 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>=20
> If you are listed as a document author,  please respond to this email
> whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been
> properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response
> has been received from each author and contributor.
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> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The
> draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-
> pim-snooping-06
>=20
> This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.
>=20
>=20
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles


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As a contributor, same here.=20

Thanks.
--Karl

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:11 PM
To: Bitar, Nabil N; l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: Ray Qiu; Karl (Xiangrong) Cai; Princy Elizabeth; Heidi Woods
Subject: RE: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06. Po=
ll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond

As a co-author, I want to report that Juniper filed US Patent Application N=
o. 13/943,292 for the Relay Mode specified in the draft.

An IETF IPR Disclosure has been filed, though there is a trouble ticket wit=
h the submission:

  From: IETF-IPR via RT [mailto:ietf-ipr@ietf.org]
  Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 5:42 PM
  To: Heidi Woods
  Subject: [www.ietf.org/rt #65781] AutoReply: Juniper's Statement of IPR

Thanks.
Jeffrey

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bitar, Nabil N [mailto:nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:41 AM
> To: Bitar, Nabil N; l2vpn@ietf.org
> Cc: Giles Heron (giheron@cisco.com);=20
> jayant.kotalwar@alcatel-lucent.com;
> vhemige@gmail.com; Ray Qiu; Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang;=20
> olivier.dornon@alcatel-lucent.com
> Subject: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06.
> Poll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-=20
> l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in order to ensure=20
> that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see=20
> RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>=20
> If you are listed as a document author,  please respond to this email=20
> whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been=20
> properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response=20
> has been received from each author and contributor.
>=20
> If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author=20
> or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware=20
> of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF=20
> rules. The draft can be found at=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-
> pim-snooping-06
>=20
> This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.
>=20
>=20
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles


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As a contributor, same here.

Thanks,
Princy

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ll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond

As a contributor, same here.=20

Thanks.
--Karl

-----Original Message-----
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To: Bitar, Nabil N; l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: Ray Qiu; Karl (Xiangrong) Cai; Princy Elizabeth; Heidi Woods
Subject: RE: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06. Po=
ll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond

As a co-author, I want to report that Juniper filed US Patent Application N=
o. 13/943,292 for the Relay Mode specified in the draft.

An IETF IPR Disclosure has been filed, though there is a trouble ticket wit=
h the submission:

  From: IETF-IPR via RT [mailto:ietf-ipr@ietf.org]
  Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 5:42 PM
  To: Heidi Woods
  Subject: [www.ietf.org/rt #65781] AutoReply: Juniper's Statement of IPR

Thanks.
Jeffrey

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bitar, Nabil N [mailto:nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:41 AM
> To: Bitar, Nabil N; l2vpn@ietf.org
> Cc: Giles Heron (giheron@cisco.com);
> jayant.kotalwar@alcatel-lucent.com;
> vhemige@gmail.com; Ray Qiu; Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang;=20
> olivier.dornon@alcatel-lucent.com
> Subject: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06.
> Poll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-=20
> l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in order to ensure=20
> that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see=20
> RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>=20
> If you are listed as a document author,  please respond to this email=20
> whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been=20
> properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response=20
> has been received from each author and contributor.
>=20
> If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author=20
> or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware=20
> of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF=20
> rules. The draft can be found at
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-
> pim-snooping-06
>=20
> This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.
>=20
>=20
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles


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Dear Venu Hemige, Olivier Dornon, Jayant Kotalwar, Ray (Lei) Qiu:

 An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "PIM Snooping
over VPLS" (draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping) was submitted to the IETF
Secretariat on 2014-05-31 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual
Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2366/). The title
of the IPR disclosure is "Juniper's Statement of IPR related to draft-ietf-
l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06."");

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : LDP Extensions for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in H-VPLS
        Authors         : Pranjal Kumar Dutta
                          Florin Balus
                          Olen Stokes
                          Don Fedyk
                          Geraldine Calvginac
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-12.txt
	Pages           : 26
	Date            : 2014-06-03

Abstract:
   RFC4762 describes a mechanism to remove or unlearn MAC addresses that
   have been dynamically learned in a Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS)
   Instance for faster convergence on topology change.  The procedure
   also removes MAC addresses in the VPLS that do not require relearning
   due to such topology change.  This document defines an enhancement to
   the MAC Address Withdrawal procedure with empty MAC List from
   RFC4762, which enables a Provider Edge(PE) device to remove only the
   MAC addresses that need to be relearned.  Additional extensions to
   RFC4762 MAC Withdrawal procedures are specified to provide optimized
   MAC flushing for the Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB)VPLS specified
   in RFC7041.



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : IP-Only LAN Service (IPLS)
        Authors         : Himanshu Shah
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                          Francois Le Faucheur
                          Giles Heron
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls-14.txt
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Abstract:
   A Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) is used to interconnect
   systems across a wide-area or metropolitan-area network, making it
   appear that they are on a private LAN.  The systems which are
   interconnected may themselves be LAN switches.  If, however, they
   are IP hosts or IP routers, certain simplifications to the operation
   of the VPLS are possible.  We call this simplified type of VPLS an
   "IP-only LAN Service" (IPLS).  In an IPLS, as in a VPLS, LAN
   interfaces are run in promiscuous mode, and frames are forwarded
   based on their destination MAC addresses.  However, the maintenance
   of the MAC forwarding tables is done via signaling, rather than via
   the MAC address learning procedures specified in [IEEE 802.1D].
   This draft specifies the protocol extensions and procedures for
   support of the IPLS service.

   The original intent was to provide an alternate solution to VPLS
   for those PE routers that were not capable of learning MAC address
   through data plane. This became non-issue with newer hardware.
   The concepts put forth by this draft are still valuable and are
   adopted in one form or other by newer work such as Ethernet VPN
   in L2VPN Working Group and possible data center applications. At
   this point, no further action is planned to update this document
   and is published simply as a historic record of the ideas.


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Hi,
I looked through the contributor list and reads like an aknowledgment.
Please, advise how you want to handle that. To progress based oon the
contributor's list I still need to hear from the following folks mentioned
as contributors but there is no contact information:

 Yetik Serbest
Suresh Boddapati=20

If contributor list is stil the same, include their contact and please
forward the initial IPR call to them asking to respond to it.


In addition,
We haven;t hear yet from Venu and Jayant, unless I missed some email.

Thanks,
Nabil





On 5/26/14 12:26 AM, "Olivier Dornon" <olivier.dornon@alcatel-lucent.com>
wrote:

>I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft.
>
>Olivier.
>
>On 05/25/2014 05:40 PM, Bitar, Nabil N wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to
>>draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in order
>>to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
>>(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>>
>> If you are listed as a document author,  please respond to this email
>>whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been
>>properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response
>>has been received from each author and contributor.
>>
>> If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author
>>or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of
>>any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>>The draft can be found at
>>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06
>>
>> This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nabil & Giles
>


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From: "Serbest, Yetik" <Yetik_Serbest@labs.att.com>
To: "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com>, Olivier Dornon <olivier.dornon@alcatel-lucent.com>, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06. Poll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond
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I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Thanks
yetik

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From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bitar, Nabil N
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 10:42 AM
To: Olivier Dornon; l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: zzhang@juniper.net; Giles Heron (giheron@cisco.com); rqiu@juniper.net; =
vhemige@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06. Po=
ll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond

Hi,
I looked through the contributor list and reads like an aknowledgment.
Please, advise how you want to handle that. To progress based oon the
contributor's list I still need to hear from the following folks mentioned
as contributors but there is no contact information:

 Yetik Serbest
Suresh Boddapati=20

If contributor list is stil the same, include their contact and please
forward the initial IPR call to them asking to respond to it.


In addition,
We haven;t hear yet from Venu and Jayant, unless I missed some email.

Thanks,
Nabil





On 5/26/14 12:26 AM, "Olivier Dornon" <olivier.dornon@alcatel-lucent.com>
wrote:

>I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft.
>
>Olivier.
>
>On 05/25/2014 05:40 PM, Bitar, Nabil N wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to
>>draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in order
>>to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
>>(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>>
>> If you are listed as a document author,  please respond to this email
>>whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been
>>properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response
>>has been received from each author and contributor.
>>
>> If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author
>>or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of
>>any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>>The draft can be found at
>>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06
>>
>> This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nabil & Giles
>


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To: Venu Hemige <vhemige@gmail.com>, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com>
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Hi Nabil,

I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Thanks,
--Jayant

-----Original Message-----
From: Venu Hemige [mailto:vhemige@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 2:26 PM
To: Bitar, Nabil N
Cc: Dornon, Olivier (Olivier); l2vpn@ietf.org; Giles Heron (giheron@cisco.c=
om); Kotalwar, Jayant (Jayant); rqiu@juniper.net; zzhang@juniper.net
Subject: Re: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06. Po=
ll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond

Hi Nabil,

Apologies for the delay in response. I am not aware of any IPR related to t=
his draft.=20

Regards,
Venu


On Jun 6, 2014, at 8:42 AM, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> wr=
ote:

> Hi,
> I looked through the contributor list and reads like an aknowledgment.
> Please, advise how you want to handle that. To progress based oon the=20
> contributor's list I still need to hear from the following folks=20
> mentioned as contributors but there is no contact information:
>=20
> Yetik Serbest
> Suresh Boddapati
>=20
> If contributor list is stil the same, include their contact and please=20
> forward the initial IPR call to them asking to respond to it.
>=20
>=20
> In addition,
> We haven;t hear yet from Venu and Jayant, unless I missed some email.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Nabil
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 5/26/14 12:26 AM, "Olivier Dornon"=20
> <olivier.dornon@alcatel-lucent.com>
> wrote:
>=20
>> I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft.
>>=20
>> Olivier.
>>=20
>> On 05/25/2014 05:40 PM, Bitar, Nabil N wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>=20
>>> We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to=20
>>> draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in=20
>>> order to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF=20
>>> IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>>>=20
>>> If you are listed as a document author,  please respond to this=20
>>> email whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not=20
>>> been properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a=20
>>> response has been received from each author and contributor.
>>>=20
>>> If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an=20
>>> author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you=20
>>> are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance wit=
h IETF rules.
>>> The draft can be found at
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06
>>>=20
>>> This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nabil & Giles
>=20


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To: Venu Hemige <vhemige@gmail.com>
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As a co-author of this draft, I am not aware of any IPR related to this dra=
ft.

--Jayant

On Jun 8, 2014, at 5:39 PM, "Venu Hemige" <vhemige@gmail.com<mailto:vhemige=
@gmail.com>> wrote:

I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Regards,
-Venu


On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Ray Qiu <rqiu@juniper.net<mailto:rqiu@juni=
per.net>> wrote:
As a co-author of the draft, I state that I am not aware of any relevant
IPR.

Thanks,
Ray

On 5/25/14, 8:40 AM, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com<mailto:nab=
il.n.bitar@verizon.com>> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to
>draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in order
>to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
>(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>
>If you are listed as a document author,  please respond to this email
>whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been
>properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has
>been received from each author and contributor.
>
>If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author or
>contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
>IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The
>draft can be found at
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06
>
>This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.
>
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles



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<div>As a co-author of this draft, I am not aware of any IPR related to thi=
s draft.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>--Jayant<br>
</div>
<div><br>
On Jun 8, 2014, at 5:39 PM, &quot;Venu Hemige&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:v=
hemige@gmail.com">vhemige@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div>-Venu</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Ray Qiu <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rqiu@juniper.net" target=3D"_blank">rqiu@juniper.net<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
As a co-author of the draft, I state that I am not aware of any relevant<br=
>
IPR.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Ray<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb">
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
On 5/25/14, 8:40 AM, &quot;Bitar, Nabil N&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nabil=
.n.bitar@verizon.com">nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;Hi,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to<br>
&gt;draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in order=
<br>
&gt;to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules=
<br>
&gt;(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;If you are listed as a document author, &nbsp;please respond to this em=
ail<br>
&gt;whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been<br>
&gt;properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response h=
as<br>
&gt;been received from each author and contributor.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author o=
r<br>
&gt;contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of an=
y<br>
&gt;IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The=
<br>
&gt;draft can be found at<br>
&gt;<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snoopin=
g-06" target=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pi=
m-snooping-06</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thanks,<br>
&gt;Nabil &amp; Giles<br>
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I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Suresh

From: <Kotalwar>, "Jayant (Jayant)" <jayant.kotalwar@alcatel-lucent.com<mai=
lto:jayant.kotalwar@alcatel-lucent.com>>
Date: Sunday, June 8, 2014 6:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06. Po=
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As a co-author of this draft, I am not aware of any IPR related to this dra=
ft.

--Jayant

On Jun 8, 2014, at 5:39 PM, "Venu Hemige" <vhemige@gmail.com<mailto:vhemige=
@gmail.com>> wrote:

I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Regards,
-Venu


On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Ray Qiu <rqiu@juniper.net<mailto:rqiu@juni=
per.net>> wrote:
As a co-author of the draft, I state that I am not aware of any relevant
IPR.

Thanks,
Ray

On 5/25/14, 8:40 AM, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com<mailto:nab=
il.n.bitar@verizon.com>> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to
>draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in order
>to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
>(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>
>If you are listed as a document author,  please respond to this email
>whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been
>properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has
>been received from each author and contributor.
>
>If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author or
>contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
>IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The
>draft can be found at
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06
>
>This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.
>
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles



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<div>I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.</div>
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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From: </span>&lt;Kotalwar&gt;, &quot;Jayan=
t (Jayant)&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jayant.kotalwar@alcatel-lucent.com">=
jayant.kotalwar@alcatel-lucent.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Sunday, June 8, 2014 6:31 PM<=
br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </span>Venu Hemige &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:vhemige@gmail.com">vhemige@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@i=
etf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2v=
pn@ietf.org</a>&gt;, &quot;Giles Heron (<a href=3D"mailto:giheron@cisco.com=
">giheron@cisco.com</a>)&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:giheron@cisco.com">gih=
eron@cisco.com</a>&gt;,
 &quot;Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zzhang@juniper.n=
et">zzhang@juniper.net</a>&gt;, Ray Qiu &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rqiu@juniper.=
net">rqiu@juniper.net</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for d=
raft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06. Poll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, resp=
ond<br>
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<div>As a co-author of this draft, I am not aware of any IPR related to thi=
s draft.</div>
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<div>--Jayant<br>
</div>
<div><br>
On Jun 8, 2014, at 5:39 PM, &quot;Venu Hemige&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:v=
hemige@gmail.com">vhemige@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div>-Venu</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Ray Qiu <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rqiu@juniper.net" target=3D"_blank">rqiu@juniper.net<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
As a co-author of the draft, I state that I am not aware of any relevant<br=
>
IPR.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Ray<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb">
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
On 5/25/14, 8:40 AM, &quot;Bitar, Nabil N&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nabil=
.n.bitar@verizon.com">nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;Hi,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to<br>
&gt;draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in order=
<br>
&gt;to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules=
<br>
&gt;(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;If you are listed as a document author, &nbsp;please respond to this em=
ail<br>
&gt;whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been<br>
&gt;properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response h=
as<br>
&gt;been received from each author and contributor.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author o=
r<br>
&gt;contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of an=
y<br>
&gt;IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The=
<br>
&gt;draft can be found at<br>
&gt;<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snoopin=
g-06" target=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pi=
m-snooping-06</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thanks,<br>
&gt;Nabil &amp; Giles<br>
<br>
</div>
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I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

yetik

From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Boddapati, Suresh =
V (Suresh)
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 8:37 PM
To: Kotalwar, Jayant (Jayant); Venu Hemige
Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang; Giles Heron (giheron@cisco.com=
); Ray Qiu
Subject: Re: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06. Po=
ll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond

I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Suresh

From: <Kotalwar>, "Jayant (Jayant)" <jayant.kotalwar@alcatel-lucent.com<mai=
lto:jayant.kotalwar@alcatel-lucent.com>>
Date: Sunday, June 8, 2014 6:31 PM
To: Venu Hemige <vhemige@gmail.com<mailto:vhemige@gmail.com>>
Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org<mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org>" <l2vpn@ietf.org<mailto:l2vpn@ie=
tf.org>>, "Giles Heron (giheron@cisco.com<mailto:giheron@cisco.com>)" <gihe=
ron@cisco.com<mailto:giheron@cisco.com>>, "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" <zzhang=
@juniper.net<mailto:zzhang@juniper.net>>, Ray Qiu <rqiu@juniper.net<mailto:=
rqiu@juniper.net>>
Subject: Re: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06. Po=
ll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond

As a co-author of this draft, I am not aware of any IPR related to this dra=
ft.

--Jayant

On Jun 8, 2014, at 5:39 PM, "Venu Hemige" <vhemige@gmail.com<mailto:vhemige=
@gmail.com>> wrote:
I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Regards,
-Venu

On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Ray Qiu <rqiu@juniper.net<mailto:rqiu@juni=
per.net>> wrote:
As a co-author of the draft, I state that I am not aware of any relevant
IPR.

Thanks,
Ray

On 5/25/14, 8:40 AM, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com<mailto:nab=
il.n.bitar@verizon.com>> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to
>draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in order
>to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
>(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>
>If you are listed as a document author,  please respond to this email
>whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been
>properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response has
>been received from each author and contributor.
>
>If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author or
>contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
>IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The
>draft can be found at
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06
>
>This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.
>
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles


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ailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Boddapati, Suresh V (Suresh)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 08, 2014 8:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kotalwar, Jayant (Jayant); Venu Hemige<br>
<b>Cc:</b> l2vpn@ietf.org; Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang; Giles Heron (giheron@ci=
sco.com); Ray Qiu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping=
-06. Poll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I am not aware of any IPR r=
elated to this draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&lt;Kotalwar&gt;, &quot;Jayant (Jayant)=
&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jayant.kotalwar@alcatel-lucent.com">jayant.kot=
alwar@alcatel-lucent.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, June 8, 2014 6:31 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Venu Hemige &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vhemige@gmail.com">vhemige@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>&gt;, &quot;Giles =
Heron (<a href=3D"mailto:giheron@cisco.com">giheron@cisco.com</a>)&quot; &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:giheron@cisco.com">giheron@cisco.com</a>&gt;, &quot;Jef=
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per.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [l2vpn] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping=
-06. Poll closes on 6/1/2014. Please, respond<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">As a co-author of this draf=
t, I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">--Jayant<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:bla=
ck"><br>
On Jun 8, 2014, at 5:39 PM, &quot;Venu Hemige&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:v=
hemige@gmail.com">vhemige@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I am not aware of any IPR r=
elated to this draft.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">-Venu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:bla=
ck"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 8:3=
5 PM, Ray Qiu &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rqiu@juniper.net" target=3D"_blank">rqi=
u@juniper.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">As a co-author of the draft=
, I state that I am not aware of any relevant<br>
IPR.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Ray<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:bla=
ck"><br>
On 5/25/14, 8:40 AM, &quot;Bitar, Nabil N&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nabil=
.n.bitar@verizon.com">nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;Hi,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;We are polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to<br>
&gt;draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06, PIM Snooping over VPLS, in order=
<br>
&gt;to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules=
<br>
&gt;(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;If you are listed as a document author, &nbsp;please respond to this em=
ail<br>
&gt;whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR that has not been<br>
&gt;properly disclosed. The draft will not be progressed until a response h=
as<br>
&gt;been received from each author and contributor.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;If you are on the l2vpn WG email list but are not listed as an author o=
r<br>
&gt;contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of an=
y<br>
&gt;IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. The=
<br>
&gt;draft can be found at<br>
&gt;<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snoopin=
g-06" target=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pi=
m-snooping-06</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This poll closes on Sunday 06/01/2014.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thanks,<br>
&gt;Nabil &amp; Giles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
>
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Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll the =
WG for adoption.

WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The =
call will close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the =
suitability of the draft for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.

Giles

On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:

> WG =96
> We posted the following draft while back.
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
> =20
> Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the =
same in PWE3 WG.
> There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that =
MAC withdraw work
> should reside in L2VPN WG.
> =20
> Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service =
provider as a co-author.
> There is a good interest in this work especially from those service =
providers who have
> deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
> =20
> Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the authors =
request that this be
> adopted as WG draft.
> =20
> Thanks,
> himanshu


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I support this draft being adopted, this is good work and it's found the
appropriate home in l2vpn. We already have MAC withdraw when using dynamic
PWs for L2VPNs and it's required when using static PWs as well.

Cheers,
Andy



On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll the W=
G
> for adoption.
>
> WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The call
> will close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the suitability of
> the draft for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.
>
> Giles
>
> On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:
>
> > WG =E2=80=93
> > We posted the following draft while back.
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
> >
> > Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the
> same in PWE3 WG.
> > There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that
> MAC withdraw work
> > should reside in L2VPN WG.
> >
> > Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service provider
> as a co-author.
> > There is a good interest in this work especially from those service
> providers who have
> > deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
> >
> > Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the authors
> request that this be
> > adopted as WG draft.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > himanshu
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I support this draft being adopted, this is good work and =
it&#39;s found the appropriate home in l2vpn. We already have MAC withdraw =
when using dynamic PWs for L2VPNs and it&#39;s required when using static P=
Ws as well.<div>

<br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at=
 9:01 AM, Giles Heron <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:giles.heron@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">giles.heron@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and beli=
eve that we should poll the WG for adoption.<br>
<br>
WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc. =C2=A0The c=
all will close on Tuesday June 24th. =C2=A0Please comment as to the suitabi=
lity of the draft for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Giles<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hshah@ciena.=
com">hshah@ciena.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; WG =E2=80=93<br>
&gt; We posted the following draft while back.<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-=
wd-03" target=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpl=
s-tp-mac-wd-03</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the =
same in PWE3 WG.<br>
&gt; There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that =
MAC withdraw work<br>
&gt; should reside in L2VPN WG.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service provide=
r as a co-author.<br>
&gt; There is a good interest in this work especially from those service pr=
oviders who have<br>
&gt; deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Since there has been sufficient history to this document, =C2=A0the au=
thors request that this be<br>
&gt; adopted as WG draft.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; himanshu<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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Support as co-author..

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Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 9:02 AM
To: Shah, Himanshu; l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: msiva@cisco.com; Nabil Bitar
Subject: Re: Request to adopt draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03

Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll the WG =
for adoption.

WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The call w=
ill close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the suitability of th=
e draft for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.

Giles

On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:

> WG -
> We posted the following draft while back.
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
> =20
> Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the sam=
e in PWE3 WG.
> There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that=20
> MAC withdraw work should reside in L2VPN WG.
> =20
> Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service provider a=
s a co-author.
> There is a good interest in this work especially from those service=20
> providers who have deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
> =20
> Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the authors=20
> request that this be adopted as WG draft.
> =20
> Thanks,
> himanshu


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Support as a co-author.

-----Original Message-----
From: Giles Heron [mailto:giles.heron@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 9:02 AM
To: Himanshu Shah; l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: Siva Sivabalan (msiva); Nabil Bitar
Subject: Re: Request to adopt draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03

Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll the WG =
for adoption.

WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The call w=
ill close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the suitability of th=
e draft for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.

Giles

On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:

> WG -
> We posted the following draft while back.
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
> =20
> Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the sam=
e in PWE3 WG.
> There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that=20
> MAC withdraw work should reside in L2VPN WG.
> =20
> Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service provider a=
s a co-author.
> There is a good interest in this work especially from those service=20
> providers who have deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
> =20
> Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the authors=20
> request that this be adopted as WG draft.
> =20
> Thanks,
> himanshu


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Yes/support

Cheers,
Jeff

>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Giles Heron [mailto:giles.heron@gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 9:02 AM
>To: Himanshu Shah; l2vpn@ietf.org
>Cc: Siva Sivabalan (msiva); Nabil Bitar
>Subject: Re: Request to adopt draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
>
>Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll the
>WG for adoption.
>
>WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The call
>will close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the suitability of
>the draft for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.
>
>Giles
>
>On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:
>
>> WG -
>> We posted the following draft while back.
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
>> =20
>> Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the
>>same in PWE3 WG.
>> There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that
>> MAC withdraw work should reside in L2VPN WG.
>> =20
>> Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service provider
>>as a co-author.
>> There is a good interest in this work especially from those service
>> providers who have deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
>> =20
>> Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the authors
>> request that this be adopted as WG draft.
>> =20
>> Thanks,
>> himanshu
>


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Support.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Giles Heron [mailto:giles.heron@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 9:02 AM
To: Shah, Himanshu; l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: msiva@cisco.com; Nabil Bitar
Subject: Re: Request to adopt draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03

Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll the WG =
for adoption.

WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The call w=
ill close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the suitability of th=
e draft for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.

Giles

On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:

> WG -
> We posted the following draft while back.
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
> =20
> Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the sam=
e in PWE3 WG.
> There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that=20
> MAC withdraw work should reside in L2VPN WG.
> =20
> Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service provider a=
s a co-author.
> There is a good interest in this work especially from those service=20
> providers who have deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
> =20
> Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the authors=20
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All

We have published YANG model for OAM. #1 draft below place the generic fram=
ework for OAM, that can be augmented for different technologies. #2 and #3 =
are application of the concept to NVO3 and TRILL,


1.      http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-netmod-oam/

2.      http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-nvo3-yang-oam/

3.      http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-trill-yang-oam/

Please review and share your comments

Thanks
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>=20
> First, we intend to use our Routing Directorate more proactively by
> introducing a Working Group Draft Quality Assurance (WG Draft QA)
> process where the same selected routing directorate member will review
> a draft during WG draft adoption and during WG last call.  The process
> will be documented on the Routing Area wiki
> (http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki).  This should allow
> directorate reviews to report technical issues that can actually get
> fixed early in the process (equivalent of bug reports) as opposed to
> just noting the concerns in the drafts (equivalent of release notes).
>=20
> Second, as was discussed during the recent IESG retreat, in addition
> to the IETF-wide WG chair training, we intend to have a series of
> training sessions for WG Chairs in the Routing Area addressing topics
> such as judging consensus, project management, motivating volunteers,
> using the datatracker (via a sandbox version that can be played
> with safely), and sharing experiences between WG chairs.
>=20
> Third, we intend to reorganize the working groups in the Routing area.
> We feel that it is important to focus on areas where there is active
> interest in standardization and to be open and able to accept new work
> into the area.  As you know, we have had several new working groups
> (nvo3, i2rs, sfc, spring) created in the last few years and we need to
> be open and able to handle more new work as it comes in.  We would
> also like to improve the signal-to-noise ratio experienced by
> participants in the different working groups and improve the quantity
> and quality of discussion and reviews.  It is likely that not all WGs
> in the Routing Area will be directly affected.
>=20
> Here is the time-line for reorganizing the WGs.
>=20
>    NOW: public discussion on routing-discussion@ietf.org about how to
>    reorganize the working groups to best meet our motivations.
>    Additional focused discussions are expected on the
>    rtg-chairs@ietf.org and rtg-dir@ietf.org mailing lists.
>=20
>    In Toronto: There will be meetings with the WG chairs and the
>    Routing Directorate to get the ideas described and agreed upon.
>=20
>    At the Routing Area Meeting in Toronto: Discuss the set of
>    reorganized WGs and general charter content in the Routing Area
>    meeting.
>=20
>    September 2014: Based upon the feedback, suggestions, and
>    discussion, Adrian and I finalize the reorganized WG charters.  We
>    start the internal IESG discussion and public reviews.
>=20
>    October 2014: Formal rechartering process completes.
>=20
>    In Honolulu: The new set of WGs meet.
>=20
>    After Honolulu: Adrian and I deal with any issues and charter
>    updates based upon a few months of experience.
>=20
> Here are the motivations that Adrian and I would like to be considered
> when coming up with ideas for how the WGs should be reorganized.
>=20
>    1) Move towards organizing working groups on functional
>    responsibilities rather than scoping them to specific protocols.
>=20
>    2) Split giant working groups so relevant work is done in one place
>    and there is an improved signal-to-noise ratio for participants who
>    are only interested in a slice of the current working group's work.
>=20
>    3) Create synergies for scattered functionality (example ideas:
>    OAM, FRR, traffic-engineering)
>=20
>    4) Create a DISPATCH working group for clear new idea discussion;
>    rtgwg serves some of this purpose but doesn't have a clear process
>    and isn't drawing in the new ideas.
>=20
>    5) Focus Routing Area time on design centers rather than on far
>    corner cases.
>=20
>    6) Each working group should have clear, well defined, and =
achievable goals.
>=20
> Noting that the Routing Area has inherited some of its WG structure
> from the sub-IP area, it is not a goal to force IP routing and MPLS
> routing to remain separated.
>=20
> The goal of this reorganization is not closing working groups.  Adrian
> and Alia are perfectly capable of closing working groups without going
> through restructuring.
>=20
> For those of you that have read this far, thank you.  Getting this 80%
> right is going to take some serious discussion and thought.  We all
> work in the Routing Area together with different perspectives.  Please
> think carefully and help us have a highly focused discussion.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Alia and Adrian
>=20
>=20


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</span><br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
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the Routing Area</b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
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;, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aretana@cisco.com">aretana@cisco.com</a>&gt;, =
&lt;<a =
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gt;, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:narten@us.ibm.com">narten@us.ibm.com</a>&gt;, =
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color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';">"<a =
href=3D"mailto:rtg-chairs@ietf.org">rtg-chairs@ietf.org</a>" &lt;<a =
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</div><br><div><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"ltr">Could you please forward to your =
working groups for those not on =
routing-discussion?<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Alia<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: =
<b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Alia Atlas</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:akatlas@gmail.com">akatlas@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM<br>Subject: Improving and =
Restructuring the Routing Area<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org">routing-discussion@ietf.org</a=
><br><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>To all participants in the Routing =
Area,</div>
<div><br></div><div>Adrian and I are working on improving the quality, =
speed, and</div><div>experience of getting work done in the IETF Routing =
Area. &nbsp;There are</div>
<div>three initiatives that we are working: WG Draft QA, Routing =
Area</div><div>specific WG chair training, and reorganizing the working =
groups in the</div><div>area.</div><div><br></div><div>First, we intend =
to use our Routing Directorate more proactively by</div>

<div>introducing a Working Group Draft Quality Assurance (WG Draft =
QA)</div><div>process where the same selected routing directorate member =
will review</div><div>a draft during WG draft adoption and during WG =
last call. &nbsp;The process</div>

<div>will be documented on the Routing Area wiki</div><div>(<a =
href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki" =
target=3D"_blank">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki</a>). =
&nbsp;This should allow</div><div>directorate reviews to report =
technical issues that can actually get</div>

<div>fixed early in the process (equivalent of bug reports) as opposed =
to</div><div>just noting the concerns in the drafts (equivalent of =
release notes).</div><div><br></div><div>Second, as was discussed during =
the recent IESG retreat, in addition</div>

<div>to the IETF-wide WG chair training, we intend to have a series =
of</div><div>training sessions for WG Chairs in the Routing Area =
addressing topics</div><div>such as judging consensus, project =
management, motivating volunteers,</div>

<div>using the datatracker (via a sandbox version that can be =
played</div><div>with safely), and sharing experiences between WG =
chairs.</div><div><br></div><div>Third, we intend to reorganize the =
working groups in the Routing area.</div>

<div>We feel that it is important to focus on areas where there is =
active</div><div>interest in standardization and to be open and able to =
accept new work</div><div>into the area. &nbsp;As you know, we have had =
several new working groups</div>

<div>(nvo3, i2rs, sfc, spring) created in the last few years and we need =
to</div><div>be open and able to handle more new work as it comes in. =
&nbsp;We would</div><div>also like to improve the signal-to-noise ratio =
experienced by</div>

<div>participants in the different working groups and improve the =
quantity</div><div>and quality of discussion and reviews. &nbsp;It is =
likely that not all WGs</div><div>in the Routing Area will be directly =
affected.</div><div>

<br></div><div>Here is the time-line for reorganizing the =
WGs.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;NOW: public discussion on <a =
href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">routing-discussion@ietf.org</a> about how to</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp;reorganize the working groups to best meet our =
motivations.</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp;Additional focused discussions are expected on =
the</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:rtg-chairs@ietf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">rtg-chairs@ietf.org</a> and <a =
href=3D"mailto:rtg-dir@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">rtg-dir@ietf.org</a> =
mailing lists.</div>
<div><br>
</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;In Toronto: There will be meetings with the WG =
chairs and the</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;Routing Directorate to get the =
ideas described and agreed upon.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;At the Routing Area Meeting in Toronto: Discuss the set of</div>

<div>&nbsp; &nbsp;reorganized WGs and general charter content in the =
Routing Area</div><div>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;meeting.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;September 2014: =
Based upon the feedback, suggestions, and</div><div>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;discussion, Adrian and I finalize the reorganized WG charters. =
&nbsp;We</div>

<div>&nbsp; &nbsp;start the internal IESG discussion and public =
reviews.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;October 2014: Formal =
rechartering process completes.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;In =
Honolulu: The new set of WGs meet.</div><div>
<br>
</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;After Honolulu: Adrian and I deal with any =
issues and charter</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;updates based upon a few =
months of experience.</div><div><br></div><div>Here are the motivations =
that Adrian and I would like to be considered</div>

<div>when coming up with ideas for how the WGs should be =
reorganized.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;1) Move towards =
organizing working groups on functional</div><div>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;responsibilities rather than scoping them to specific =
protocols.</div>

<div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;2) Split giant working groups so =
relevant work is done in one place</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;and there is =
an improved signal-to-noise ratio for participants who</div><div>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;are only interested in a slice of the current working group's =
work.</div>

<div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;3) Create synergies for scattered =
functionality (example ideas:</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;OAM, FRR, =
traffic-engineering)</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;4) Create a =
DISPATCH working group for clear new idea discussion;</div>

<div>&nbsp; &nbsp;rtgwg serves some of this purpose but doesn't have a =
clear process</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;and isn't drawing in the new =
ideas.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;5) Focus Routing Area time =
on design centers rather than on far</div>

<div>&nbsp; &nbsp;corner cases.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;6) =
Each working group should have clear, well defined, and achievable =
goals.</div><div><br></div><div>Noting that the Routing Area has =
inherited some of its WG structure</div>

<div>from the sub-IP area, it is not a goal to force IP routing and =
MPLS</div><div>routing to remain separated.</div><div><br></div><div>The =
goal of this reorganization is not closing working groups. =
&nbsp;Adrian</div><div>and Alia are perfectly capable of closing working =
groups without going</div>

<div>through restructuring.</div><div><br></div><div>For those of you =
that have read this far, thank you. &nbsp;Getting this =
80%</div><div>right is going to take some serious discussion and =
thought. &nbsp;We all</div><div>work in the Routing Area together with =
different perspectives. &nbsp;Please</div>

<div>think carefully and help us have a highly focused =
discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Alia and =
Adrian</div><div><br></div></div>
</div><br></div></div>
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please also note that discussion will happen on =
routing-discussion@ietf.org.  So if you want to participate then please =
join that list.

Giles

On 10 Jun 2014, at 21:43, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> please do read this.=09
>=20
> Begin forwarded message:
>=20
>> Resent-From: <wg-alias-bounces@tools.ietf.org>
>> From: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Fwd: Improving and Restructuring the Routing Area
>> Date: 10 June 2014 21:14:10 BST
>> Resent-To: <jhaas@pfrc.org>, <nobo@cisco.com>, <dbrungard@att.com>, =
<lberger@labn.net>, <hadi@mojatatu.com>, =
<damascene.joachimpillai@verizon.com>, <jhaas@pfrc.org>, =
<edc@google.com>, <shares@ndzh.com>, <jgs@juniper.net>, =
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<jguichar@cisco.com>, <sandy@tislabs.com>, <morrowc@ops-netman.net>, =
<aretana@cisco.com>, <jgs@juniper.net>, <akatlas@gmail.com>, =
<adrian@olddog.co.uk>
>> To: "rtg-chairs@ietf.org" <rtg-chairs@ietf.org>
>>=20
>> Could you please forward to your working groups for those not on =
routing-discussion?
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Alia
>>=20
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM
>> Subject: Improving and Restructuring the Routing Area
>> To: routing-discussion@ietf.org
>>=20
>>=20
>> To all participants in the Routing Area,
>>=20
>> Adrian and I are working on improving the quality, speed, and
>> experience of getting work done in the IETF Routing Area.  There are
>> three initiatives that we are working: WG Draft QA, Routing Area
>> specific WG chair training, and reorganizing the working groups in =
the
>> area.
>>=20
>> First, we intend to use our Routing Directorate more proactively by
>> introducing a Working Group Draft Quality Assurance (WG Draft QA)
>> process where the same selected routing directorate member will =
review
>> a draft during WG draft adoption and during WG last call.  The =
process
>> will be documented on the Routing Area wiki
>> (http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki).  This should allow
>> directorate reviews to report technical issues that can actually get
>> fixed early in the process (equivalent of bug reports) as opposed to
>> just noting the concerns in the drafts (equivalent of release notes).
>>=20
>> Second, as was discussed during the recent IESG retreat, in addition
>> to the IETF-wide WG chair training, we intend to have a series of
>> training sessions for WG Chairs in the Routing Area addressing topics
>> such as judging consensus, project management, motivating volunteers,
>> using the datatracker (via a sandbox version that can be played
>> with safely), and sharing experiences between WG chairs.
>>=20
>> Third, we intend to reorganize the working groups in the Routing =
area.
>> We feel that it is important to focus on areas where there is active
>> interest in standardization and to be open and able to accept new =
work
>> into the area.  As you know, we have had several new working groups
>> (nvo3, i2rs, sfc, spring) created in the last few years and we need =
to
>> be open and able to handle more new work as it comes in.  We would
>> also like to improve the signal-to-noise ratio experienced by
>> participants in the different working groups and improve the quantity
>> and quality of discussion and reviews.  It is likely that not all WGs
>> in the Routing Area will be directly affected.
>>=20
>> Here is the time-line for reorganizing the WGs.
>>=20
>>    NOW: public discussion on routing-discussion@ietf.org about how to
>>    reorganize the working groups to best meet our motivations.
>>    Additional focused discussions are expected on the
>>    rtg-chairs@ietf.org and rtg-dir@ietf.org mailing lists.
>>=20
>>    In Toronto: There will be meetings with the WG chairs and the
>>    Routing Directorate to get the ideas described and agreed upon.
>>=20
>>    At the Routing Area Meeting in Toronto: Discuss the set of
>>    reorganized WGs and general charter content in the Routing Area
>>    meeting.
>>=20
>>    September 2014: Based upon the feedback, suggestions, and
>>    discussion, Adrian and I finalize the reorganized WG charters.  We
>>    start the internal IESG discussion and public reviews.
>>=20
>>    October 2014: Formal rechartering process completes.
>>=20
>>    In Honolulu: The new set of WGs meet.
>>=20
>>    After Honolulu: Adrian and I deal with any issues and charter
>>    updates based upon a few months of experience.
>>=20
>> Here are the motivations that Adrian and I would like to be =
considered
>> when coming up with ideas for how the WGs should be reorganized.
>>=20
>>    1) Move towards organizing working groups on functional
>>    responsibilities rather than scoping them to specific protocols.
>>=20
>>    2) Split giant working groups so relevant work is done in one =
place
>>    and there is an improved signal-to-noise ratio for participants =
who
>>    are only interested in a slice of the current working group's =
work.
>>=20
>>    3) Create synergies for scattered functionality (example ideas:
>>    OAM, FRR, traffic-engineering)
>>=20
>>    4) Create a DISPATCH working group for clear new idea discussion;
>>    rtgwg serves some of this purpose but doesn't have a clear process
>>    and isn't drawing in the new ideas.
>>=20
>>    5) Focus Routing Area time on design centers rather than on far
>>    corner cases.
>>=20
>>    6) Each working group should have clear, well defined, and =
achievable goals.
>>=20
>> Noting that the Routing Area has inherited some of its WG structure
>> from the sub-IP area, it is not a goal to force IP routing and MPLS
>> routing to remain separated.
>>=20
>> The goal of this reorganization is not closing working groups.  =
Adrian
>> and Alia are perfectly capable of closing working groups without =
going
>> through restructuring.
>>=20
>> For those of you that have read this far, thank you.  Getting this =
80%
>> right is going to take some serious discussion and thought.  We all
>> work in the Routing Area together with different perspectives.  =
Please
>> think carefully and help us have a highly focused discussion.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Alia and Adrian
>>=20
>>=20
>=20


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Support. This is a piece of good work which should be progressed in the WG.

Regards,
Yuanlong

-----Original Message-----

Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:01:52 +0100
From: Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com>
To: Himanshu Shah <hshah@ciena.com>, l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: "msiva@cisco.com" <msiva@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Request to adopt draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
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Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll the WG =
for adoption.

WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The call w=
ill close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the suitability of th=
e draft for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.

Giles

On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:

> WG ?
> We posted the following draft while back.
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
> =20
> Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the sam=
e in PWE3 WG.
> There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that MAC=
 withdraw work
> should reside in L2VPN WG.
> =20
> Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service provider a=
s a co-author.
> There is a good interest in this work especially from those service provi=
ders who have
> deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
> =20
> Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the authors re=
quest that this be
> adopted as WG draft.
> =20
> Thanks,
> himanshu



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Support.

Mingui

>-----Original Message-----
>From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Giles Heron
>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 9:02 PM
>To: Himanshu Shah; l2vpn@ietf.org
>Cc: msiva@cisco.com
>Subject: Re: Request to adopt draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
>
>Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll the WG=
 for
>adoption.
>
>WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The call =
will
>close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the suitability of the d=
raft
>for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.
>
>Giles
>
>On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:
>
>> WG -
>> We posted the following draft while back.
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
>>
>> Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the sa=
me
>in PWE3 WG.
>> There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that MA=
C
>withdraw work
>> should reside in L2VPN WG.
>>
>> Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service provider
>as a co-author.
>> There is a good interest in this work especially from those service prov=
iders
>who have
>> deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
>>
>> Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the authors r=
equest
>that this be
>> adopted as WG draft.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> himanshu


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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:#1F497D">Thanks for initiating discussion on this topic.<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Unified OAM for multi-Layer network is a good idea to me.<o:p></o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">draft-ww-opsawg-multi-layer-oam-00 we proposed in opsawg laid out=
 the an initial description of the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The question to</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">draft-=
tissa-netmod-oam is<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">I am wondering how this generic Yang Model can be applied to SFC =
environment?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">How do you support the case where two endpoints support different=
 layer OAM or doesn=A1=AFt support any OAM at that layer.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">BTW: I have cc=A1=AFed time mailing list since I believe this mai=
ling list is purposed to look for generic and integrated OAM covering vario=
us heterogeneous networking technologies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Regards!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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[mailto:netmod-bounces@ietf.org]
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=B1=ED </span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:=CB=CE=CC=E5">Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)<br>
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=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span lang=3D"EN-=
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tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C4=EA<span lang=3D"EN-U=
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 3:03<br>
</span><b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"> netmod@ietf.org; nvo3@ietf.org; trill@ietf.org; l2vpn@ietf.org; ops=
awg@ietf.org<br>
</span><b>=D6=F7=CC=E2<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> [netmod] YANG models for OAM<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We have published YANG model fo=
r OAM. #1 draft below place the generic framework for OAM, that can be augm=
ented for different technologies. #2 and #3 are application of the concept =
to NVO3 and TRILL,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"http://datat=
racker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-netmod-oam/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/do=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Are these models based on any implementation/s or proof-of-concept code that=
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> On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:03 PM, "Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)" <tsenevir@ci=
sco.com> wrote:
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> All
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> We have published YANG model for OAM. #1 draft below place the generic fra=
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re application of the concept to NVO3 and TRILL,
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> 1.      http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-netmod-oam/
> 2.      http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-nvo3-yang-oam/
> 3.      http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-trill-yang-oam/
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Are these models based on any implementation/s or proof-of-concept code that anyone can look at?</div><div><br></div><div>Tom&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br>On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:03 PM, "Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)" &lt;<a href="mailto:tsenevir@cisco.com">tsenevir@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

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<p class="MsoNormal">All<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We have published YANG model for OAM. #1 draft below place the generic framework for OAM, that can be augmented for different technologies. #2 and #3 are application of the concept to NVO3 and TRILL,<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><a href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-netmod-oam/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-netmod-oam/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><a href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-nvo3-yang-oam/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-nvo3-yang-oam/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><a href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-trill-yang-oam/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-trill-yang-oam/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please review and share your comments<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tissa<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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Support this. We need this MAC withdrawal notification in statically
provisioned PW's.

-sam


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Mingui Zhang <zhangmingui@huawei.com>
wrote:

> Support.
>
> Mingui
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Giles Heron
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 9:02 PM
> >To: Himanshu Shah; l2vpn@ietf.org
> >Cc: msiva@cisco.com
> >Subject: Re: Request to adopt draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
> >
> >Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll the
> WG for
> >adoption.
> >
> >WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The call
> will
> >close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the suitability of the
> draft
> >for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.
> >
> >Giles
> >
> >On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:
> >
> >> WG -
> >> We posted the following draft while back.
> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
> >>
> >> Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the
> same
> >in PWE3 WG.
> >> There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that
> MAC
> >withdraw work
> >> should reside in L2VPN WG.
> >>
> >> Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service provider
> >as a co-author.
> >> There is a good interest in this work especially from those service
> providers
> >who have
> >> deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
> >>
> >> Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the authors
> request
> >that this be
> >> adopted as WG draft.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> himanshu
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Support this. We need this MAC withdrawal notification in =
statically provisioned PW&#39;s.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>-sam</div></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 10=
, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Mingui Zhang <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zha=
ngmingui@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">zhangmingui@huawei.com</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Support.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Mingui<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
&gt;-----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;From: L2vpn [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org">l2vpn-bou=
nces@ietf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Giles Heron<br>
&gt;Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 9:02 PM<br>
&gt;To: Himanshu Shah; <a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>=
<br>
</div><div class=3D"im HOEnZb">&gt;Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:msiva@cisco.com">m=
siva@cisco.com</a><br>
&gt;Subject: Re: Request to adopt draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03<br>
&gt;<br>
</div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">&gt;Agreed - Nabil and I have=
 discussed and believe that we should poll the WG for<br>
&gt;adoption.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc. =C2=A0T=
he call will<br>
&gt;close on Tuesday June 24th. =C2=A0Please comment as to the suitability =
of the draft<br>
&gt;for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Giles<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hshah@ci=
ena.com">hshah@ciena.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; WG -<br>
&gt;&gt; We posted the following draft while back.<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-=
mac-wd-03" target=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn=
-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued =
the same<br>
&gt;in PWE3 WG.<br>
&gt;&gt; There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt t=
hat MAC<br>
&gt;withdraw work<br>
&gt;&gt; should reside in L2VPN WG.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service pro=
vider<br>
&gt;as a co-author.<br>
&gt;&gt; There is a good interest in this work especially from those servic=
e providers<br>
&gt;who have<br>
&gt;&gt; deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Since there has been sufficient history to this document, =C2=A0th=
e authors request<br>
&gt;that this be<br>
&gt;&gt; adopted as WG draft.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt;&gt; himanshu<br>
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The IPR call has now completed, and the draft will now move to the IESG.

thanks.

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Support!
Lucy

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Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll the WG =
for adoption.

WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The call w=
ill close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the suitability of th=
e draft for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.

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On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:

> WG -
> We posted the following draft while back.
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
> =20
> Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the sam=
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> There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that=20
> MAC withdraw work should reside in L2VPN WG.
> =20
> Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service provider a=
s a co-author.
> There is a good interest in this work especially from those service=20
> providers who have deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
> =20
> Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the authors=20
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Support as a co-author,

Sami
On Jun 10, 2014, at 6:01 AM, Giles Heron wrote:

> Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll the W=
G for adoption.
>=20
> WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The call=
 will close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the suitability of =
the draft for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.
>=20
> Giles
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> On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:
>=20
>> WG =96
>> We posted the following draft while back.
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
>>=20
>> Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the sa=
me in PWE3 WG.
>> There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that MA=
C withdraw work
>> should reside in L2VPN WG.
>>=20
>> Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service provider =
as a co-author.
>> There is a good interest in this work especially from those service prov=
iders who have
>> deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
>>=20
>> Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the authors r=
equest that this be
>> adopted as WG draft.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> himanshu
>=20


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Hi,

This is the start of a three-week working group last call on the draft "PIM=
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/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-06.

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Hi,

This is the start of a two-week working group last call on the draft " Ethe=
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Hi L2VPN WG,

If you would like to request a time-slot for the L2VPN WG session at IETF 9=
0-Toronto, please reply to us by Friday 07/04/2014 along with the following=
 information:

1) Draft title
2) Presenter name
3) Requested duration

Please, make sure that the subject of you reply is:    Re:[l2vpn] L2VPN Age=
nda Slot Call for IETF 90 =96 Toronto (i.e., reply to this email and the WG=
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Please note that priority will be given to drafts that are clearly within t=
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Please also note the following cutoff date for draft submission. This date =
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2014-07-04 (Friday): Internet Draft submission cut-off (for all drafts, inc=
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Thanks,
Nabil & Giles


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Hi,

this email initiates an IPR call for:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-06

would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there =
is any IPR that they are aware of which has not been disclosed to the =
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disclosed to the IETF would you please respond to this email.

this IPR call closes on Tuesday 1st July 2014.

Giles=


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Not aware of IPR other than the one disclosed on the base EVPN draft

On 17/06/14 20:09, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>this email initiates an IPR call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-06
>
>would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there
>is any IPR that they are aware of which has not been disclosed to the
>IETF.
>
>Likewise if anyone else is aware of any IPR that has not already been
>disclosed to the IETF would you please respond to this email.
>
>this IPR call closes on Tuesday 1st July 2014.
>
>Giles


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From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <sajassi@cisco.com>
To: Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com>, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-06
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I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft that hasn't already been
disclosed.

Cheers,
Ali

On 6/17/14 11:09 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>this email initiates an IPR call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-06
>
>would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there
>is any IPR that they are aware of which has not been disclosed to the
>IETF.
>
>Likewise if anyone else is aware of any IPR that has not already been
>disclosed to the IETF would you please respond to this email.
>
>this IPR call closes on Tuesday 1st July 2014.
>
>Giles


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To: Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com>, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
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I am not aware of any IPR that has not been already disclosed.

Regards,
Samer

On 2014-06-17 11:09 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>this email initiates an IPR call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-06
>
>would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there
>is any IPR that they are aware of which has not been disclosed to the
>IETF.
>
>Likewise if anyone else is aware of any IPR that has not already been
>disclosed to the IETF would you please respond to this email.
>
>this IPR call closes on Tuesday 1st July 2014.
>
>Giles


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Support as a co-author.

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Hi,

This is the start of a two-week working group last call on the draft " Ethe=
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : PBB-EVPN
        Authors         : Ali Sajassi
                          Samer Salam
                          Nabil Bitar
                          Aldrin Isaac
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Lizhong Jin
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-07.txt
	Pages           : 21
	Date            : 2014-06-19

Abstract:
   This document discusses how Ethernet Provider Backbone Bridging
   [802.1ah] can be combined with EVPN in order to reduce the number of
   BGP MAC advertisement routes by aggregating Customer/Client MAC (C-
   MAC) addresses via Provider Backbone MAC address (B-MAC), provide
   client MAC address mobility using C-MAC aggregation and B-MAC sub-
   netting, confine the scope of C-MAC learning to only active flows,
   offer per site policies and avoid C-MAC address flushing on topology
   changes. The combined solution is referred to as PBB-EVPN.

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I am not aware of any IPR that has not been already disclosed.

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> Hi,
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> this email initiates an IPR call for:
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> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-06
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> would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there is
any
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> this IPR call closes on Tuesday 1st July 2014.
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Giles, Nabil:

This draft https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay/?in=
clude_text=3D1  (initially called draft-sajassi-drake-l2vpn-evpn-overlay) w=
as first published in December 2012 after the merged between two other draf=
ts: draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane-00 and draft-sajassi-nvo3-evpn-over=
lay-01. After the merged, the resultant draft has gone through several iter=
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sus for this draft and would like to request for the WG call.

Regards,
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s first published in December 2012 after the merged between two other draft=
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : LDP Extensions for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in H-VPLS
        Authors         : Pranjal Kumar Dutta
                          Florin Balus
                          Olen Stokes
                          Don Fedyk
                          Geraldine Calvginac
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-13.txt
	Pages           : 26
	Date            : 2014-06-27

Abstract:
   RFC4762 describes a mechanism to remove or unlearn MAC addresses that
   have been dynamically learned in a Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS)
   Instance for faster convergence on topology change.  The procedure
   also removes MAC addresses in the VPLS that do not require relearning
   due to such topology change.  This document defines an enhancement to
   the MAC Address Withdrawal procedure with empty MAC List from
   RFC4762, which enables a Provider Edge(PE) device to remove only the
   MAC addresses that need to be relearned.  Additional extensions to
   RFC4762 MAC Withdrawal procedures are specified to provide optimized
   MAC flushing for the Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB)VPLS specified
   in RFC7041.



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Extension to LDP-VPLS for Ethernet Broadcast and Multicast
        Authors         : Raymond Key
                          Frederic Jounay
                          Yuji Kamite
                          Zhihua Liu
                          Manuel Paul
                          Ruediger Kunze
                          Mach(Guoyi) Chen
                          Lizhong Jin
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-ldp-vpls-broadcast-exten-08.txt
	Pages           : 19
	Date            : 2014-06-28

Abstract:
   This document proposes a simple extension to LDP-VPLS to improve
   bandwidth efficiency for Ethernet broadcast/multicast traffic
   within a carrier's network. It makes use of unidirectional
   point-to-multipoint PseudoWires to minimise payload frame duplication
   on physical links.



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi Qin<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">There are several way =
this is applicable to SFC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level=
1 lfo3"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"m=
so-list:Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">SFC is underla=
yer independent , which means it can have all sorts of encap types undernea=
th, the model presented in tissa-netmod-oam, address exactly that issue. In=
stead of re-inventing and re-implementing
 various different OAM the draft propose to integrate them at the managemen=
t layer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level=
1 lfo3"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"m=
so-list:Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">In this draft =
we define a flow-entropy as an opaque element that each of the technology t=
ype can specify and include. If we look at draft-quinn-sfc-nsh-02.txt, it d=
efine a block that specifies SFC.
 SFC version of YANG &nbsp;can specify this as part of its flow entropy. Th=
e beauty is that it is all up to the technology to specify that (size and s=
hape is technology dependent) and base model is still intact.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">With the above in mind=
 , can you please review draft-tissa-netmod-oam and see it is flexible and =
extensible enough to for the purpose. If things are missing we can add and =
extend.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I have requested netmo=
d WG chairs for a presentation slot for further discussion of the draft. &n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Qin Wu [=
mailto:bill.wu@huawei.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 10, 2014 9:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir); time@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> netmod@ietf.org; nvo3@ietf.org; trill@ietf.org; l2vpn@ietf.org; =
opsawg@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: YANG models for OAM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, T=
issa:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Thank=
s for initiating discussion on this topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Unifi=
ed OAM for multi-Layer network is a good idea to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">draft=
-ww-opsawg-multi-layer-oam-00 we proposed in opsawg laid out the an initial=
 description of the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The q=
uestion to</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">draft-tissa-netmod-oam is<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">I am =
wondering how this generic Yang Model can be applied to SFC environment?<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">How d=
o you support the case where two endpoints support different layer OAM or d=
oesn=A1=AFt support any OAM at that layer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">BTW: =
I have cc=A1=AFed time mailing list since I believe this mailing list is pu=
rposed to look for generic and integrated OAM covering various heterogeneou=
s networking technologies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Regar=
ds!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">-Qin<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:SimSun">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun"> netmod [<a href=3D"mailto:netmod-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:=
netmod-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B4=FA=B1=ED </span></b>Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevi=
r)<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>:</b> 2014<span lang=
=3D"ZH-CN">=C4=EA</span>6<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=D4=C2</span>11<span lang=3D"=
ZH-CN">=C8=D5</span> 3:03<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ne=
tmod@ietf.org">netmod@ietf.org</a>;
<a href=3D"mailto:nvo3@ietf.org">nvo3@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:trill=
@ietf.org">
trill@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>; <=
a href=3D"mailto:opsawg@ietf.org">
opsawg@ietf.org</a><br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=D6=F7=CC=E2</span>:</b> [netmod] YANG models for O=
AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">All<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We have published YANG model for OAM. #1 draft below=
 place the generic framework for OAM, that can be augmented for different t=
echnologies. #2 and #3 are application of the concept to NVO3 and TRILL,<o:=
p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level=
1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]><a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ti=
ssa-netmod-oam/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-netmod-oam/</a=
><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level=
1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]><a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ti=
ssa-nvo3-yang-oam/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-nvo3-yang-o=
am/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level=
1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]><a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ti=
ssa-trill-yang-oam/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-trill-yang=
-oam/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please review and share your comments<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Tissa<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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Hi
Support as co-author
BR
Fred

> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 08:20:11 -0400
> From: "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com<mailto:nabil.n.bitar@ve=
rizon.com>>
> To: "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com<mailto:nabil.n.bitar@veri=
zon.com>>, "l2vpn@ietf.org<mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org>"
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> Cc: Giles Heron <giheron@cisco.com<mailto:giheron@cisco.com>>
> Subject: [l2vpn] WG last call for
> draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree-03.txt (e-tree support in VPLS)
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> Hi,
>
> This is the start of a two-week working group last call on the draft " Et=
hernet-Tree (E-Tree) Support in Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS)". The dr=
aft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etr=
ee-03.
>
> Please, review the draft and send any comments to the L2VPN working group=
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>
> This WG last call will close on Tuesday July 01, 2014.
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> Regards,
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Hi all

this email closes the WG adoption call for =
draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03.  Consensus is judged to be that =
the draft be adopted as an L2VPN WG doc.

Authors please re-publish as draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00.

Nabil & Giles

On 10 Jun 2014, at 14:01, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> Agreed - Nabil and I have discussed and believe that we should poll =
the WG for adoption.
>=20
> WG - this starts a 2 week call to adopt this draft as a WG doc.  The =
call will close on Tuesday June 24th.  Please comment as to the =
suitability of the draft for adoption, giving reasoning if possible.
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> Giles
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> On 23 May 2014, at 17:00, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:
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>> WG =96
>> We posted the following draft while back.
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boutros-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-03
>>=20
>> Sami presented this draft a few times in L2VPN WG while I pursued the =
same in PWE3 WG.
>> There was a good consensus in PWE3 WG for the draft but was felt that =
MAC withdraw work
>> should reside in L2VPN WG.
>>=20
>> Hence the update was sent to L2VPN WG. We have added a service =
provider as a co-author.
>> There is a good interest in this work especially from those service =
providers who have
>> deployed MPLS-TP network with static PWs.
>>=20
>> Since there has been sufficient history to this document,  the =
authors request that this be
>> adopted as WG draft.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> himanshu
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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'LDP Extensions for Optimized MAC Address Withdrawal in H-VPLS'
  (draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt-13.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks
Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Alia Atlas.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-mac-opt/




Technical Summary:

   RFC4762 describes a mechanism to remove or unlearn MAC addresses that
   have been dynamically learned in a Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS)
   Instance for faster convergence on topology change.  The procedure
   also removes MAC addresses in the VPLS that do not require relearning
   due to such topology change.  

   This document defines new procedures for MAC flushing in VPLS, H-VPLS and PBB-
   VPLS services upon access topology changes. These procedures cover additional 
   additional scenarios to that covered RFC 4762 for H-VPLS. MAC flushing is a
   mechanism used to minimize traffic black-holing time when reachability to MAC 
   addresses changes due to topology access changes.

   In particular, this document describes procedures for MTU-s initiated MAC flush 
   when MTU-s is dual-homed to provider edges (PEs) over an active and standby 
   Pseudowires, and the propagation of the MAC flush message over the VPLS core 
   and processing at PEs.  It also describes a new optimized  MAC flush mechanism 
   termed "negative flush" that enables PEs with instances of a VPLS instance to flush
   the MAC entries reachable via the PE where the topology change was experienced. 
   This is opposed to the current procedure defined in RFC 4762 which cause all MAC 
   addresses previously learned to be flushed except those that are learned from the 
   PE that initiates the flush. Lastly, this document defines the MAC flush and optimized
   MAC flush for PBB-VPLS services. 
 
Working Group Summary:

   This document is an L2VPN Working Group document. It has gone through a few 
   iterations that addressed comments received from the Working group and comments
   from the WG chairs. 

   The draft got good support when it was adopted as a WG draft. The Working Group
   last call got no feedback from the Working Group and the only comments that 
   needed to be addressed were those of the WG chairs.

Document Quality:

   The document has OK quality. It is clear on the technical content and written with 
   reasonable English and layout. 

   The draft has authors from a couple companies that claim to have implemented the 
   solution albeit no interoperability testing was done. 

Personnel:

     Document Shepherd: Nabil Bitar (nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com)
     Area Director: Adrian Farrel (Adrian@olddog.co.uk)

