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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : BGP MPLS Based Ethernet VPN
        Authors         : Ali Sajassi
                          Rahul Aggarwal
                          Nabil Bitar
                          Aldrin Isaac
                          James Uttaro
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-09.txt
	Pages           : 51
	Date            : 2014-10-02

Abstract:
   This document describes procedures for BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPNs
   (EVPN). The procedures described here are intended to meet the
   requirements specified in [EVPN-REQ].


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn/

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Hi WG,

this email initiates a WG adoption call for:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03

the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the =
sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails =
(if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it =
would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as =
to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG =
so the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.

this poll will close on Friday October 17th.

Giles=


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I support the adoption of the draft as WG as co-author
Reason is that this draft describes how to use EVPN for overlay tunnelling
and is needed to ensure interoperability in different scenario=B9s between
vendors.

On 03/10/14 14:42, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi WG,
>
>this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>
>the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the
>sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails
>(if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it
>would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as
>to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so
>the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.
>
>this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>
>Giles


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"Support!"

Yours Irrespectively,

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Giles Heron
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 5:42 AM
> To: l2vpn@ietf.org
> Subject: WG adoption call for EVPN Overlay draft
>=20
> Hi WG,
>=20
> this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>=20
> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the sa=
ke of
> record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails (if noth=
ing else
> to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it would be even more
> helpful if people could send substantive comments as to the suitability (=
or not)
> of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so the authors/chairs actually=
 have
> some feedback to work with.
>=20
> this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>=20
> Giles


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'Support'

Regards

Jorge Brites



-------- Original message --------
From: John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net>
Date:03/10/2014 11:00 (GMT-03:00)
To: Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com>,l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc:
Subject: RE: WG adoption call for EVPN Overlay draft

"Support!"

Yours Irrespectively,

John

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 5:42 AM
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> Subject: WG adoption call for EVPN Overlay draft
>
> Hi WG,
>
> this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>
> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the sa=
ke of
> record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails (if noth=
ing else
> to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it would be even more
> helpful if people could send substantive comments as to the suitability (=
or not)
> of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so the authors/chairs actually=
 have
> some feedback to work with.
>
> this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>
> Giles


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Yes/support

Regards,
Jeff

> On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi WG,
>=20
> this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>=20
> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the sa=
ke of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails (if =
nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it would be=
 even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as to the suit=
ability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so the authors/=
chairs actually have some feedback to work with.
>=20
> this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>=20
> Giles


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Support!
Lucy

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 5:42 AM
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> Subject: WG adoption call for EVPN Overlay draft
>=20
> Hi WG,
>=20
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>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>=20
> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the=20
> sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!"=20
> emails (if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of=20
> course it would be even more helpful if people could send substantive=20
> comments as to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by=20
> the L2VPN WG so the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work wi=
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>=20
> this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>=20
> Giles


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Support as a co-author.
This draft is the foundation for the NVO3 BGP-based solution using EVPN on
which other EVPN related drafts (for NOV3) rely.

-Ali

On 10/3/14, 5:42 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi WG,
>
>this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>
>the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the
>sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails
>(if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it
>would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as
>to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so
>the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.
>
>this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>
>Giles


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Support!
Linda


> -----Original Message-----
> From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Giles Heron
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 5:42 AM
> To: l2vpn@ietf.org
> Subject: WG adoption call for EVPN Overlay draft
>=20
> Hi WG,
>=20
> this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>=20
> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the=20
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> course it would be even more helpful if people could send substantive=20
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>=20
> this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
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> Giles


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+1=20

Jim Uttaro

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Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:28 AM
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Support as a co-author.
This draft is the foundation for the NVO3 BGP-based solution using EVPN on
which other EVPN related drafts (for NOV3) rely.

-Ali

On 10/3/14, 5:42 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi WG,
>
>this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>
>the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the
>sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails
>(if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it
>would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as
>to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so
>the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.
>
>this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>
>Giles


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Support.

Regards,
Samer

On 2014-10-03 5:42 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi WG,
>
>this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>
>the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the
>sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails
>(if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it
>would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as
>to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so
>the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.
>
>this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>
>Giles


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Heads-up.

BESS charter is in IETF-wide review.

Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
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> IESG
> Sent: 03 October 2014 16:37
> To: IETF-Announce
> Cc: bess WG
> Subject: WG Review: BGP Enabled Services (bess)
> 
> A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Routing Area. The IESG
> has not made any determination yet. The following draft charter was
> submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send
> your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg at ietf.org) by 2014-10-13.
> 
> BGP Enabled Services (bess)
> ------------------------------------------------
> Current Status: Proposed WG
> 
> Assigned Area Director:
>   Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
> 
> Mailing list
>   Address: bess@ietf.org
>   To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess
>   Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/bess/
> 
> Charter:
> 
> BGP is established as a protocol for provisioning and operating Layer-3
> (routed) Virtual Private Networks (L3VPNs). It is also used in certain
> Layer-2  Virtual Private Networks (L2VPNs).
> 
> The BGP Enabled Services (BESS) working group is responsible for
> defining, specifying, and extending network services based on BGP. In
> particular, the working group will work on the following services:
> 
>  - BGP/MPLS IP VPN solutions (based on RFC4364 and RFC4659) for
>    supporting provider-provisioned L3VPNs including methods for enabling
>    multicast over BGP/MPLS VPNs.
> 
>  - BGP-enabled L2VPNs (as described in RFC 4664) that operate over IP or
>    MPLS packet switched network tunnels. All types of L2VPN are in scope
>    provided they utilize BGP for discovery, signaling, or for some other
>    purposes related to the VPN. But L2VPN solutions that operate over
>    pseudowires or use LDP and that do not utilize BGP will be addressed
>    by the PALS working group. Any contention in placement of the work
>    between these working groups will be resolved by the chairs.
> 
>  - BGP-enabled VPN solutions for use in the data center networking.
>    This work includes consideration of VPN scaling issues and
>    mechanisms applicable to such environments.
> 
>  - Extensions to BGP-enabled VPN solutions for the construction of
>    virtual topologies in support of services such as Service Function
>    Chaining.
> 
> The working group may also suggest new services to be supported by BGP
> and these may be added to the working group charter subject to
> rechartering.
> 
> The working group may work on:
> 
>  - Mechanisms to support BGP-enabled services in the presence of multi-
>    homing of Customer Edge (CE) devices to multiple Provider Edge (PE)
>    devices to provide load-balancing and resilience.
> 
>  - Auto-discovery of sites that participate in the BGP-enabled service.
> 
>  - Data models for modeling, managing, and operating BGP-based services
>    using SMI or YANG.
> 
>  - OAM or resiliency mechanisms operating over BGP-enabled services. But
>    native data plane OAM mechanisms may be worked on only in conjunction
>    with the working groups responsible for the relevant data planes.
> 
>  - Extensions to BGP and extensions to YANG models for BGP. All such
>    work must be reviewed by the IDR WG, but the decision to request
>    publication of such work remains with the BESS WG.
> 
> The working group will also coordinate with other working groups where
> appropriate. For example, with the MPLS working group for issues
> related to the MPLS architecture, and the NVO3 working group for
> coordination of protocols to support data center VPNs.
> 
> The BESS working group will not define new data plane or forwarding
> plane encapsulations.
> 
> Milestones:



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Strongly support, this is an important draft.

Cheers,
Andy


On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi WG,
>
> this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>
> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the
> sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails
> (if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it
> would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as to
> the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so the
> authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.
>
> this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>
> Giles
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Strongly support, this is an important draft.<div><br></di=
v><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Gile=
s Heron <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:giles.heron@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">giles.heron@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">Hi WG,<br>
<br>
this email initiates a WG adoption call for:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03</a><=
br>
<br>
the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the sake=
 of record do feel free to send the usual flood of &quot;Support!&quot; ema=
ils (if nothing else to make the doc shepherd&#39;s job easier).=C2=A0 Of c=
ourse it would be even more helpful if people could send substantive commen=
ts as to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN W=
G so the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.<br>
<br>
this poll will close on Friday October 17th.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Giles<br>
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Hi,

I also support this draft becoming a WG draft. It is very useful since it i=
mproves scalability and load balancing in data center networking.

Thx
Shahram



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support

	Regards,
		Greg

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Hi WG,

this email initiates a WG adoption call for:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03

the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the sake=
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this poll will close on Friday October 17th.

Giles


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On 2014-10-03, 8:42 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi WG,
>
>this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>
>the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the
>sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails
>(if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it
>would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as
>to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so
>the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.
>
>this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>
>Giles


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On 10/3/14 5:42 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
>this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>
>the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the
>sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails
>(if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it
>would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as
>to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so
>the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.
>
>this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>
>Giles


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : BGP MPLS Based Ethernet VPN
        Authors         : Ali Sajassi
                          Rahul Aggarwal
                          Nabil Bitar
                          Aldrin Isaac
                          James Uttaro
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-10.txt
	Pages           : 51
	Date            : 2014-10-03

Abstract:
   This document describes procedures for BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPNs
   (EVPN). The procedures described here are intended to meet the
   requirements specified in RFC7209 - Requirements for Ethernet VPN.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
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Support this draft to be adopted as WG draft.

Sam

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> On Oct 3, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi WG,
>=20
> this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>=20
> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the sak=
e of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails (if no=
thing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it would be ev=
en more helpful if people could send substantive comments as to the suitabil=
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> this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
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Support.
Very relevant spec which already has got early implementations.

-Thomas

2014-10-03, Giles Heron:
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> this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
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> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>
> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails (if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.
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> this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>
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Hi,

Just a heads-up: this is about a WG Last Call in l3vpn, but interesting 
to l2vpn because the draft proposes to reuse the MAC Mobility attribute 
from E-VPN.  Feedback from E-VPN authors, in particular, would be welcome.

Said otherwise: let's have this reviewed as if we were already in BESS.  ;)

Cheers,

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Hello working group,

This email starts a Working Group Last Call on 
draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04 [1]. This last call is related only to 
changes between -02 and -04.

Note that draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-02 went through a Working Group 
Last Call, during which no significant issue was raised. However, my 
shepherd review lead to identify one major obstacle to publication, in 
the dependency on XEP-0248 specifications [2], which are not mature and 
whose progress is staled. The review also lead to other changes. 
Overall, the amount of changes is significant enough to impose us to do 
a new WG Last Call.

Please review the changes, and send your comments to the list, no later 
than **October 17th**.

For your convenience, the changes between -02 and -04:

http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04&url1=draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-02

Thank you,

-Thomas & Martin

[1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04
[2] http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0248.html


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L2VPN WG,

This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =93Integrated Rou=
ting and Bridging in EVPN=94, draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forward=
ing-05, =20
as an L2VPN WG document. The draft can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/id/=
draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05.txt

This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always w=
e are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please reply to this =
email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a WG d=
ocument. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or obj=
ection are appreciated.

This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.

Thanks,
Nabil & Giles


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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:16:06 -0400
Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft VPWS support in E-VPN, draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04
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L2VPN WG,

This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =93VPWS support i=
n E-VPN=94, draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04, as an L2VPN WG document. The =
draft can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws=
-04.txt

This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always w=
e are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to this=
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document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or ob=
jection are appreciated

This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.


Thanks,
Nabil & Giles


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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:18:00 -0400
Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft VXLAN DCI Using EVPN, draft-boutros-l2vpn-vxlan-evpn-04
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L2VPN WG,

This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =93VXLAN DCI Usin=
g EVPN=94, draft-boutros-l2vpn-vxlan-evpn-04, as an L2VPN WG document.  The=
 draft can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-vxlan-ev=
pn-04.txt.

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This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.

Thanks,
Nabil & Giles



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To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:20:28 -0400
Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02
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L2VPN WG,

This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =93Usage and appl=
icability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN=94, draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, =
as an L2VPN WG document.  The draft can be found at: http://tools.ietf.org/=
id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt.

This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always w=
e are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to this=
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document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or ob=
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This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.

Thanks,
Nabil & Giles


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Subject: Re: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft Integrated Routing and Bridging in EVPN, draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05
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As co-author I support adopting this draft as WG since it describes a
fundamental part of how EVPN is applied and describes the different
options to achieve IOT.

On 06/10/14 15:15, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> wrote:

>L2VPN WG,
>
>This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3Integrated
>Routing and Bridging in EVPN=B2,
>draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05,
>as an L2VPN WG document. The draft can be found at:
>http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05
>.txt
>
>This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always
>we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please reply to
>this email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as
>a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your
>support or objection are appreciated.
>
>This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles
>


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Support to adopt as WG doc

On 06/10/14 15:16, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> wrote:

>L2VPN WG,
>
>This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3VPWS support
>in E-VPN=B2, draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04, as an L2VPN WG document. Th=
e
>draft can be found at:
>http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04.txt
>
>This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always
>we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to
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>This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
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>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles
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Subject: Re: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02
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Support for WG adoption. This draft was written on request of the group to
describe the options on how to use EPN and clarify the base draft.

On 06/10/14 15:20, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> wrote:

>L2VPN WG,
>
>This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3Usage and
>applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN=B2,
>draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, as an L2VPN WG document.  The draft can be
>found at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt.
>
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>
>This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles
>


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Subject: RE: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02
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+1.

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From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henderickx, Wim (W=
im)
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:49 AM
To: Bitar, Nabil N; l2vpn@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicabilit=
y of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02

Support for WG adoption. This draft was written on request of the group to
describe the options on how to use EPN and clarify the base draft.

On 06/10/14 15:20, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> wrote:

>L2VPN WG,
>
>This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3Usage and
>applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN=B2,
>draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, as an L2VPN WG document.  The draft can be
>found at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt.
>
>This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always
>we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to
>this email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as
>a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your
>support or objection are appreciated.
>
>This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles
>


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Support!
Lucy

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Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicability of=
 BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02

L2VPN WG,

This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft "Usage and applic=
ability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, as a=
n L2VPN WG document.  The draft can be found at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/d=
raft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt.

This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always w=
e are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to this=
 email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a WG =
document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or ob=
jection are appreciated.

This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.

Thanks,
Nabil & Giles


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Support!
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t-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04

L2VPN WG,

This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft "VPWS support in =
E-VPN", draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04, as an L2VPN WG document. The draf=
t can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04.=
txt

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Nabil & Giles


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Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft Integrated Routing and Brid=
ging in EVPN, draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05

L2VPN WG,

This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft "Integrated Routi=
ng and Bridging in EVPN", draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-=
05, =20
as an L2VPN WG document. The draft can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/id/=
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This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always w=
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This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.

Thanks,
Nabil & Giles


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Support as co-author.=20

Thanks
Tapraj

> On Oct 6, 2014, at 6:20 AM, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> =
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>=20
> L2VPN WG,
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> This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =93VXLAN DCI Us=
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> This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles
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> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the sa=
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 even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as to the suit=
ability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so the authors/=
chairs actually have some feedback to work with.=0A=
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> this poll will close on Friday October 17th.=0A=
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Regards,
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On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi WG,
>
> this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>
> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the
> sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails
> (if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it
> would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as to
> the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so the
> authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.
>
> this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>
> Giles
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">support<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Nabeel</div>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct=
 3, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Giles Heron <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gi=
les.heron@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">giles.heron@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>=
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der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi WG,<br>
<br>
this email initiates a WG adoption call for:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03</a><=
br>
<br>
the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the sake=
 of record do feel free to send the usual flood of &quot;Support!&quot; ema=
ils (if nothing else to make the doc shepherd&#39;s job easier).=C2=A0 Of c=
ourse it would be even more helpful if people could send substantive commen=
ts as to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN W=
G so the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.<br>
<br>
this poll will close on Friday October 17th.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Giles<br>
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Support.

regards,
Nabeel


On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Lucy yong <lucy.yong@huawei.com> wrote:

> Support!
> Lucy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bitar, Nabil N
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 8:20 AM
> To: l2vpn@ietf.org
> Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicability
> of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02
>
> L2VPN WG,
>
> This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft "Usage and
> applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN",
> draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, as an L2VPN WG document.  The draft can be
> found at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt.
>
> This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always
> we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to
> this email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a
> WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or
> objection are appreciated.
>
> This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Support.<div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div>Nabeel</div=
><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Lucy yong <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:lucy.yong@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">lucy.yong@huawei.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Support!<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">Lucy<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: L2vpn [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org">l2vpn-bounces=
@ietf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Bitar, Nabil N<br>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 8:20 AM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft &quot;Usage and applicabili=
ty of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN&quot;, draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02<br>
<br>
L2VPN WG,<br>
<br>
This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft &quot;Usage and a=
pplicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN&quot;, draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usag=
e-02, as an L2VPN WG document.=C2=A0 The draft can be found at: <a href=3D"=
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt" target=3D"_blank=
">http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt</a>.<br>
<br>
This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always w=
e are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to this=
 email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a WG =
document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or ob=
jection are appreciated.<br>
<br>
This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Nabil &amp; Giles<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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Support as a co-author.

-Ali


On 10/6/14, 6:16 AM, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> wrote:

>L2VPN WG,
>
>This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3VPWS support
>in E-VPN=B2, draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04, as an L2VPN WG document. Th=
e
>draft can be found at:
>http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04.txt
>
>This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always
>we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to
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>a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your
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>
>This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles
>


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Support as a co-author.

-Ali

On 10/6/14, 6:15 AM, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> wrote:

>L2VPN WG,
>
>This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3Integrated
>Routing and Bridging in EVPN=B2,
>draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05,
>as an L2VPN WG document. The draft can be found at:
>http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05
>.txt
>
>This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always
>we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please reply to
>this email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as
>a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your
>support or objection are appreciated.
>
>This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles
>


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Support as a co-author.

-Ali

On 10/6/14, 6:20 AM, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> wrote:

>L2VPN WG,
>
>This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3Usage and
>applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN=B2,
>draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, as an L2VPN WG document.  The draft can be
>found at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt.
>
>This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always
>we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to
>this email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as
>a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your
>support or objection are appreciated.
>
>This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles
>


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Support as a co-author. This draft is needed for scenarios where EVPN is
used as a DC-Interconnect technology for connecting DCs running VxLAN with
MAC learning in data-plane.

-Ali

On 10/6/14, 6:18 AM, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> wrote:

>L2VPN WG,
>
>This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3VXLAN DCI
>Using EVPN=B2, draft-boutros-l2vpn-vxlan-evpn-04, as an L2VPN WG document.
>The draft can be found at:
>http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-vxlan-evpn-04.txt.
>
>This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always
>we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to
>this email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as
>a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your
>support or objection are appreciated.
>
>This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles
>
>


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Support as a co-author.

On 10/6/14, 6:20 AM, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> wrote:

>L2VPN WG,
>
>This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3Usage and
>applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN=B2,
>draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, as an L2VPN WG document.  The draft can be
>found at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt.
>
>This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always
>we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to
>this email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as
>a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your
>support or objection are appreciated.
>
>This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles
>


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Support as a co-author.

Regards,
Keyur

On 10/3/14, 5:42 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi WG,
>
>this email initiates a WG adoption call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03
>
>the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the
>sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails
>(if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier).  Of course it
>would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as
>to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so
>the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with.
>
>this poll will close on Friday October 17th.
>
>Giles


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Support

Yours Irrespectively,

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bitar, Nabil N
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 6:18 AM
> To: l2vpn@ietf.org
> Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft VXLAN DCI Using EVPN, dra=
ft-
> boutros-l2vpn-vxlan-evpn-04
>=20
> L2VPN WG,
>=20
> This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft "VXLAN DCI Usin=
g
> EVPN", draft-boutros-l2vpn-vxlan-evpn-04, as an L2VPN WG document.  The
> draft can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-vxlan-e=
vpn-
> 04.txt.
>=20
> This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always=
 we
> are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to this=
 email
> indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a WG docum=
ent.
> Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or objection =
are
> appreciated.
>=20
> This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles
>=20


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Support

Yours Irrespectively,

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bitar, Nabil N
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 6:16 AM
> To: l2vpn@ietf.org
> Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft VPWS support in E-VPN, dr=
aft-
> boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04
>=20
> L2VPN WG,
>=20
> This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft "VPWS support i=
n E-
> VPN", draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04, as an L2VPN WG document. The
> draft can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vp=
ws-
> 04.txt
>=20
> This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always=
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> are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to this=
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> indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a WG docum=
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> Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or objection =
are
> appreciated
>=20
> This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>=20
>=20
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles


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Support

Yours Irrespectively,

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bitar, Nabil N
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 6:20 AM
> To: l2vpn@ietf.org
> Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicability =
of BGP
> MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02
>=20
> L2VPN WG,
>=20
> This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft "Usage and appl=
icability
> of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, as an L2VP=
N
> WG document.  The draft can be found at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-r=
p-
> l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt.
>=20
> This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always=
 we
> are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to this=
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> indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a WG docum=
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> Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or objection =
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> appreciated.
>=20
> This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
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> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles


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Subject: New mailing list for soon-to-be BESS working group
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Hi,

As the work to charter BESS progresses (the charter
http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/bess/charter/ has been put out for community
review by the IESG). It is time to set up the mailing list for BESS.

As may be expected, this will be bess@ietf.org subscribed via
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess

Since BESS will subsume the whole of L3VPN, I have taken the liberty of asking
the Secretariat to automagically subscribe everyone from L3VPN to BESS.
However, I didn't want to do that for L2VPN because some of you might not be
interested.

At the moment the BESS list is best restricted to charter and scope discussions
for the new working group, but my hope is that we will have BESS chartered in
the very near future and we can switch all relevant discussions from L2VPN to
BESS.

Adrian

PS. The first draft of a charter for PALS will be with you soon



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This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:

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Support (as co-author)...

Cheers
Dave

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This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-01

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+1

Thanks,
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Hi,

Support as co-author.

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Date: Friday, October 10, 2014 at 5:31 AM
To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: L2VPN WG LC for SPBM EVPN

>This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-01
>
>please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for
>publication as a Standards Track RFC.
>
>this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
>
>Nabil & Giles


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Support as a co-author.

-Ali

On 10/10/14, 5:31 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-01
>
>please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for
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>
>this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
>
>Nabil & Giles


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Hi,

it has been helpfully pointed out to me that we haven't issued an IPR =
call for this draft.

So this email initiates an IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd.

would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there =
is any IPR that they are aware of which has not been disclosed to the =
IETF.

Likewise if anyone else is aware of any IPR that has not already been =
disclosed to the IETF would you please respond to this email.

this IPR call closes on Friday 24th October 2014.

Nabil & Giles

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> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00
>=20
> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for =
publication as a Standards Track RFC.=20
>=20
> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
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please ignore this one.  Issuing IPR call on the wrong draft.  Sorry.

On 10 Oct 2014, at 19:34, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>=20
> it has been helpfully pointed out to me that we haven't issued an IPR =
call for this draft.
>=20
> So this email initiates an IPR call for =
draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd.
>=20
> would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether =
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>=20
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>=20
> this IPR call closes on Friday 24th October 2014.
>=20
> Nabil & Giles
>=20
> On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:20, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
>> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>>=20
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00
>>=20
>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for =
publication as a Standards Track RFC.=20
>>=20
>> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
>>=20
>> Nabil & Giles
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OK - so this is the draft I was supposed to issue the IPR call on =
(draft-ietf-l2vpn-sbpm-evpn).

would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there =
is any IPR that they are aware of which has not been disclosed to the =
IETF.

Likewise if anyone else is aware of any IPR that has not already been =
disclosed to the IETF would you please respond to this email.

this IPR call closes on Friday 24th October 2014.

Giles

On 10 Oct 2014, at 13:31, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-01
>=20
> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for =
publication as a Standards Track RFC.=20
>=20
> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
>=20
> Nabil & Giles


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I am unaware of any undisclosed IPR...

Cheers
D

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: IPR (was L2VPN WG LC for SPBM EVPN)

OK - so this is the draft I was supposed to issue the IPR call on (draft-ie=
tf-l2vpn-sbpm-evpn).

would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there is =
any IPR that they are aware of which has not been disclosed to the IETF.

Likewise if anyone else is aware of any IPR that has not already been discl=
osed to the IETF would you please respond to this email.

this IPR call closes on Friday 24th October 2014.

Giles

On 10 Oct 2014, at 13:31, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-01
>=20
> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for public=
ation as a Standards Track RFC.=20
>=20
> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
>=20
> Nabil & Giles


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I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.
/himanshu

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Hi,

it has been helpfully pointed out to me that we haven't issued an IPR call =
for this draft.

So this email initiates an IPR call for draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd.

would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there is =
any IPR that they are aware of which has not been disclosed to the IETF.

Likewise if anyone else is aware of any IPR that has not already been discl=
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this IPR call closes on Friday 24th October 2014.

Nabil & Giles

On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:20, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00
>=20
> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for public=
ation as a Standards Track RFC.=20
>=20
> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
>=20
> Nabil & Giles


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I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft that hasn=B9t already been
disclosed.

-Ali

On 10/10/14, 11:36 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

>OK - so this is the draft I was supposed to issue the IPR call on
>(draft-ietf-l2vpn-sbpm-evpn).
>
>would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there
>is any IPR that they are aware of which has not been disclosed to the
>IETF.
>
>Likewise if anyone else is aware of any IPR that has not already been
>disclosed to the IETF would you please respond to this email.
>
>this IPR call closes on Friday 24th October 2014.
>
>Giles
>
>On 10 Oct 2014, at 13:31, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>>=20
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-01
>>=20
>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for
>>publication as a Standards Track RFC.
>>=20
>> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
>>=20
>> Nabil & Giles
>


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Hi=20

I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPR for this draft.=20

Regards,
Don

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 2:36 PM
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> Subject: IPR (was L2VPN WG LC for SPBM EVPN)
>=20
> OK - so this is the draft I was supposed to issue the IPR call on (draft-=
ietf-l2vpn-
> sbpm-evpn).
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> would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there i=
s any
> IPR that they are aware of which has not been disclosed to the IETF.
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> Likewise if anyone else is aware of any IPR that has not already been dis=
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> this IPR call closes on Friday 24th October 2014.
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> Giles
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> On 10 Oct 2014, at 13:31, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
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> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-01
> >
> > please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for publ=
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> >
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> >
> > Nabil & Giles


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> -----Original Message-----
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Support,
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This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-01

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On 13/10/14 19:43, "Bragg, Nigel" <nbragg@ciena.com> wrote:

>Support,
>	Nigel Bragg
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Giles Heron
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>This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
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>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-01
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>Nabil & Giles
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> -----Original Message-----

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> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 5:32 AM

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> Subject: L2VPN WG LC for SPBM EVPN

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> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:

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> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-01

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> Standards Track RFC.

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Support  as a co-author.

Senad

-----Original Message-----
> From: <Bitar>, Nabil N <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com>
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2014 at 6:20 AM
> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
> Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicability
> of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02
>
> >L2VPN WG,
> >
> >This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =E2=80=9CUsage=
 and
> >applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN=E2=80=9D,
> >draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, as an L2VPN WG document.  The draft can be
> >found at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt.
> >
> >This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as alway=
s
> >we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to
> >this email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft a=
s
> >a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your
> >support or objection are appreciated.
> >
> >This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Nabil & Giles
> >
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Support =C2=A0as a co-author.<div><br></div><div>Senad</di=
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: &lt;Bitar&gt;, Nabil N &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nabil.n.bitar@verizon.co=
m">nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com</a>&gt;<br>
Date: Monday, October 6, 2014 at 6:20 AM<br>
To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft &quot;Usage and applicabili=
ty<br>
of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN&quot;, draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02<br>
<br>
&gt;L2VPN WG,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =E2=80=9CUsag=
e and<br>
&gt;applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN=E2=80=9D,<br>
&gt;draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, as an L2VPN WG document.=C2=A0 The draft =
can be<br>
&gt;found at: <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage=
-02.txt" target=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usa=
ge-02.txt</a>.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as alwa=
ys<br>
&gt;we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to=
<br>
&gt;this email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft =
as<br>
&gt;a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your<br>
&gt;support or objection are appreciated.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thanks,<br>
&gt;Nabil &amp; Giles<br>
&gt;<br>
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I believe this draft still uses the terms 'packet' and 'frame' quite
indiscriminately.

Again as an example
'The MPLS-encapsulated packet' on page 13 point e) which indicates that
only the packet i.e. L3 is encapsulated (which would remove the L2
information needed).

In reality the entire frame is encapsulated as is indeed stated on page 26:
"PE1 will push the MPLS Label(s) onto the original Ethernet frame and
send the packet to the MPLS network"

On 09-07-14 16:43, Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
>
> We will make sure draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage has the right wording (frame
> vs packet) in the next revision.
> Thank you for the feedback.
>
> Jorge

I would like to see the terminology changed to avoid confusion and
therefore must object for now.

Regards,

Stefan


On 06-10-14 15:20, Bitar, Nabil N wrote:
> L2VPN WG,
> 
> This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft “Usage and applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN”, draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, as an L2VPN WG document.  The draft can be found at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt.
> 
> This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to this email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or objection are appreciated.
> 
> This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles
> 


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Hi Jorge,

Thank you. I support this new version.

Cheers,

Stefan

On 15-10-14 04:14, Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> We have just uploaded rev 03 where you can see the terminology changed.
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-03
> 
> 
> Please let us know if you support this document now for WG adoption.
> Thank you.
> Jorge
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Plug <Stefan.Plug@os3.nl>
> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 at 2:02 PM
> To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and
> applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02
> 
>> I believe this draft still uses the terms 'packet' and 'frame' quite
>> indiscriminately.
>>
>> Again as an example
>> 'The MPLS-encapsulated packet' on page 13 point e) which indicates that
>> only the packet i.e. L3 is encapsulated (which would remove the L2
>> information needed).
>>
>> In reality the entire frame is encapsulated as is indeed stated on page
>> 26:
>> "PE1 will push the MPLS Label(s) onto the original Ethernet frame and
>> send the packet to the MPLS network"
>>
>> On 09-07-14 16:43, Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) wrote:
>>> Hi Stefan,
>>>
>>> We will make sure draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage has the right wording (frame
>>> vs packet) in the next revision.
>>> Thank you for the feedback.
>>>
>>> Jorge
>>
>> I would like to see the terminology changed to avoid confusion and
>> therefore must object for now.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> On 06-10-14 15:20, Bitar, Nabil N wrote:
>>> L2VPN WG,
>>>
>>> This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft “Usage and
>>> applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN”,
>>> draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, as an L2VPN WG document.  The draft can be
>>> found at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt.
>>>
>>> This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as
>>> always we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please,
>>> reply to this email indicating your support or objection to adopting
>>> this draft as a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to
>>> indicating your support or objection are appreciated.
>>>
>>> This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nabil & Giles
>>>
>>
> 


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : IP-Only LAN Service (IPLS)
        Authors         : Himanshu Shah
                          Eric Rosen
                          Francois Le Faucheur
                          Giles Heron
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls-15.txt
	Pages           : 31
	Date            : 2014-10-15

Abstract:
   A Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) is used to interconnect
   systems across a wide-area or metropolitan-area network, making it
   appear that they are on a private LAN.  The systems which are
   interconnected may themselves be LAN switches.  If, however, they
   are IP hosts or IP routers, certain simplifications to the operation
   of the VPLS are possible.  We call this simplified type of VPLS an
   "IP-only LAN Service" (IPLS).  In an IPLS, as in a VPLS, LAN
   interfaces are run in promiscuous mode, and frames are forwarded
   based on their destination MAC addresses.  However, the maintenance
   of the MAC forwarding tables is done via signaling, rather than via
   the MAC address learning procedures specified in [IEEE 802.1D].
   This draft specifies the protocol extensions and procedures for
   support of the IPLS service.

   The original intent was to provide an alternate solution to VPLS
   for those PE routers that were not capable of learning MAC address
   through data plane. This became a non-issue with newer hardware.
   The concepts put forth by this draft are still valuable and are
   adopted in one form or other by newer work such as Ethernet VPN
   in L2VPN Working Group and possible data center applications. At
   this point, no further action is planned to update this document
   and is published simply as a historic record of the ideas.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Hi,

The IESG just approved the formation of the BESS working group with the charter
you can see in the datatracker. The formal announcement text will follow
(probably  tomorrow).

The chairs have been talking with the chairs of the hopefully-soon-to-be-formed
PALS working group about documents and where they belong. Now would be a good
time to have that discussion on the BESS list.

The PALS charter is on its way for external review (separate email to follow)
and when it is formed I will close this list.

Please move all of the in-charter discussions to the BESS list and keep on the
good work.

Thanks,
Adrian


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Hi,

With the formation of the BESS working group and the approval in principle for
the creation of the PALS working group, L2VPN is on its way out.

The IESG today approved the principle of creating PALS and is sending the
charter for external review.

The current version of the charter can be seen at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-pals/ and your comments are
welcome. The best place for those discussions would be
routing-discussion@ietf.org.

I am in the process of creating the pals@ietf.org mailing list. I am
automatically subscribing the members of pwe3@ietf.org, but not the members of
l2vpn@ietf.org because it is not clear which of you want to go to BESS and which
to PALS. Please subscribe to the PALS list when it is created if it interests
you.

The draft agenda for IETF-91 shows two slots booked: one for L2VPN and one for
PWE3. It is highly likely that PALS will be formally chartered on the 30th
October IESG telechat. In this event, PALS will meet in the L2VPN slot and the
PWE3 slot will be held in reserve in case there is overflow (highly unlikely on
the current showing).

Once PALS is up and running I will shut down L2VPN and thank (once again) the
current chairs.

Thanks,
Adrian


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : BGP MPLS Based Ethernet VPN
        Authors         : Ali Sajassi
                          Rahul Aggarwal
                          Nabil Bitar
                          Aldrin Isaac
                          James Uttaro
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-11.txt
	Pages           : 52
	Date            : 2014-10-16

Abstract:
   This document describes procedures for BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPNs
   (EVPN). The procedures described here meet the requirements specified
   in RFC7209 - Requirements for Ethernet VPN.


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If you haven't been following Adrian's recent emails, the expectation is
that PALS will be officially formed as a new WG in two weeks, and will meet
in Honolulu in the agenda spot currently reserved for L2VPN, Wednesday at
13:00. Our WG Secretary, David Sinicrope, will be issuing a call for agenda
items. For those of you that were planning to present at PWE3, you'll be
presenting at PALS instead. For those of you that were planning to present
at L2VPN, you may be presenting at PALS or at BESS, the latter primarily
for EVPN-related drafts. Let Stewart or me know if you have any questions.

We would also like to start using the PALS WG email list going forward. My
understanding is that if you were on the PWE3 list, you've been
auto-subscribed to the PALS list. If you were on the L2VPN list but not on
the PWE3 list, you have to sign up for the PALS list on your own. The
relevant information for the list is:

List address: pals@ietf.org
Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/
To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals

Thanks,
Andy

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<div dir=3D"ltr">If you haven&#39;t been following Adrian&#39;s recent emai=
ls, the expectation is that PALS will be officially formed as a new WG in t=
wo weeks, and will meet in Honolulu in the agenda spot currently reserved f=
or L2VPN, Wednesday at 13:00. Our WG Secretary, David Sinicrope, will be is=
suing a call for agenda items. For those of you that were planning to prese=
nt at PWE3, you&#39;ll be presenting at PALS instead. For those of you that=
 were planning to present at L2VPN, you may be presenting at PALS or at BES=
S, the latter primarily for EVPN-related drafts. Let Stewart or me know if =
you have any questions.<div><br></div><div>We would also like to start usin=
g the PALS WG email list going forward. My understanding is that if you wer=
e on the PWE3 list, you&#39;ve been auto-subscribed to the PALS list. If yo=
u were on the L2VPN list but not on the PWE3 list, you have to sign up for =
the PALS list on your own. The relevant information for the list is:</div><=
div><br></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13=
px">List address:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">pals@ietf.org</a><br style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,=
sans-serif;font-size:13px">Archive:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://www.ietf.=
org/mail-archive/web/pals/" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px">http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/</a><br =
style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">To subscribe:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D=
"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/list=
info/pals</a><br style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div=
><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></div></div>

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Hi working group,

(My apologies for not having found time to review this and send feedback 
earlier.)

Although the topic of inter-subnet forwarding is indeed important, I 
have a few concerns about the document as it currently is, and I do  not 
support adoption in its current form.

My main concerns are the following:
- the document describes multiple solutions, but the benefit/necessity 
of introducing each is to me not clearly spelled out, in particular the 
benefits compared to an approach that would just locally combine an EVI 
and a VRF ; I'm not saying there is no benefit, but they just aren't 
spelled out explicitly, nor the limitations of what we could do without 
these specs
- how these solutions can be combined or not is not explained, and an 
immediate worry is the question of interop of solution implementing one 
approach with solutions implementing another
- a important point would be to make it explicit that in all solutions, 
interop with routers not implementing these specs and implementing plain 
RFC4364 should be a MUST (by having NVE implementation also import and 
use IPVPN routes if any is advertised, and advertise IP VPN routes for 
the networks for which IP VPN interconnection is wanted)
- last but not least: section 5.2 depends on 
draft-rabadan-l2vpn-evpn-prefix-advertisement that is not yet a working 
group document: wouldn't we putting the cart before the horse by 
adopting draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding now ?

Other questions:
- section 4.3 seems to me as possibly incorrect: the proposed procedure 
consist in having the ingress NVE rewrite the destination MAC address of 
the payload before, but I can't understand how this makes sense: why is 
this needed since the packet is forwarded based on an IP VPN route (and 
can thus only be an IP packet) ? and why would the payload destination 
MAC be useful to the local WAN gateway anyway (it will do an IP lookup, 
and no MAC lookup) ?
- section 4.4 raises the same question
- section 5.1 is a lot about the use of overlays and describes how to 
use a VXLAN encapsulation, while section 4 does not (and even assumes in 
many places that LSPs are used for transit between PEs) ; this is 
editorial, but it looks like a fair amount of work is needed to make the 
document overall consistent

Best,

-Thomas



2014-10-06, Bitar, Nabil N:
> L2VPN WG,
>
> This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft “Integrated
> Routing and Bridging in EVPN”,
> draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05, as an L2VPN WG
> document. The draft can be found at:
> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05.txt
>
>  This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as
> always we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please
> reply to this email indicating your support or objection to adopting
> this draft as a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to
> indicating your support or objection are appreciated.
>
> This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>
> Thanks, Nabil & Giles
>


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : PBB-EVPN
        Authors         : Ali Sajassi
                          Samer Salam
                          Nabil Bitar
                          Aldrin Isaac
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Lizhong Jin
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-08.txt
	Pages           : 22
	Date            : 2014-10-19

Abstract:
   This document discusses how Ethernet Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB)
   can be combined with Ethernet VPN (EVPN) in order to reduce the
   number of BGP MAC advertisement routes by aggregating Customer/Client
   MAC (C-MAC) addresses via Provider Backbone MAC address (B-MAC),
   provide client MAC address mobility using C-MAC aggregation, confine
   the scope of C-MAC learning to only active flows, offer per site
   policies and avoid C-MAC address flushing on topology changes. The
   combined solution is referred to as PBB-EVPN.

Conventions

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From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <sajassi@cisco.com>
To: Thomas Morin <thomas.morin@orange.com>, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>,  "draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding@tools.ietf.org" <draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding@tools.ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft Integrated Routing and Bridging in EVPN, draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05
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Thomas,

Thanks for the review, please refer to my reply inline

On 10/17/14, 9:14 AM, "Thomas Morin" <thomas.morin@orange.com> wrote:

>Hi working group,
>
>(My apologies for not having found time to review this and send feedback
>earlier.)
>
>Although the topic of inter-subnet forwarding is indeed important, I
>have a few concerns about the document as it currently is, and I do  not
>support adoption in its current form.
>
>My main concerns are the following:
>- the document describes multiple solutions, but the benefit/necessity
>of introducing each is to me not clearly spelled out, in particular the
>benefits compared to an approach that would just locally combine an EVI
>and a VRF ; I'm not saying there is no benefit, but they just aren't
>spelled out explicitly, nor the limitations of what we could do without
>these specs

The document describes two broad approaches for IRB: Asymmetric and
Symmetric. Symmetric approach is the one that expects each node to have
both EVI and VRF. Are you asking for a description of pros/cons of these
two approaches?

>- how these solutions can be combined or not is not explained, and an
>immediate worry is the question of interop of solution implementing one
>approach with solutions implementing another

The two approaches are interoperable. I=B9ll add a section to describe the
inter-operability between the two.

>- a important point would be to make it explicit that in all solutions,
>interop with routers not implementing these specs and implementing plain
>RFC4364 should be a MUST (by having NVE implementation also import and
>use IPVPN routes if any is advertised, and advertise IP VPN routes for
>the networks for which IP VPN interconnection is wanted)

There is another draft for this: draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-ipvpn-interop

>- last but not least: section 5.2 depends on
>draft-rabadan-l2vpn-evpn-prefix-advertisement that is not yet a working
>group document: wouldn't we putting the cart before the horse by
>adopting draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding now ?

The dependency is minimal and the section 5.2 is just an extension of
section 5.1 where now there are some prefixes sitting behind TS=B9s

>
>Other questions:
>- section 4.3 seems to me as possibly incorrect: the proposed procedure
>consist in having the ingress NVE rewrite the destination MAC address of
>the payload before, but I can't understand how this makes sense: why is
>this needed since the packet is forwarded based on an IP VPN route (and
>can thus only be an IP packet) ? and why would the payload destination
>MAC be useful to the local WAN gateway anyway (it will do an IP lookup,
>and no MAC lookup) ?

You=B9re right. It is more of adding a new MAC header than re-writing the
existing one. I=B9ll correct it.

>- section 4.4 raises the same question

OK. I=B9ll fix it.

>- section 5.1 is a lot about the use of overlays and describes how to
>use a VXLAN encapsulation, while section 4 does not (and even assumes in
>many places that LSPs are used for transit between PEs) ; this is
>editorial, but it looks like a fair amount of work is needed to make the
>document overall consistent

I=B9ll try to make them consistent.

Thanks again for your review,
Ali

=20
>
>Best,
>
>-Thomas
>
>
>
>2014-10-06, Bitar, Nabil N:
>> L2VPN WG,
>>
>> This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3Integrated
>> Routing and Bridging in EVPN=B2,
>> draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05, as an L2VPN WG
>> document. The draft can be found at:
>>=20
>>http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-0
>>5.txt
>>
>>  This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as
>> always we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please
>> reply to this email indicating your support or objection to adopting
>> this draft as a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to
>> indicating your support or objection are appreciated.
>>
>> This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>>
>> Thanks, Nabil & Giles
>>
>


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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'BGP MPLS Based Ethernet VPN'
  (draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-11.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks
Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Alia Atlas.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn/




Technical Summary:

   This document describes procedures for BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPNs
   (EVPN). The procedures described here are intended to meet the
   requirements specified in RFC7209 - Requirements for Ethernet VPN. EVPN
   requires extensions to existing IP/MPLS protocols as described in this 
   document, but also uses several building blocks from existing MPLS
   technologies.

Working Group Summary:

   This document is an L2VPN Working Group document, and has been reviewed in 
   the working group through multiple iterations of the draft.

Document Quality:

   The document is long (50 pages) and detailed, however this is due to the inherent 
   complexity of the problem which EVPN solves - namely the provision of scalable 
   E-LAN services with support for active/active attachment (i.e. the ability for CE 
   devices to load balance across multiple PEs).  The document has been through 
   multiple revisions and is now sufficiently stable to progress to RFC, and more 
   importantly to be used as a reference for creating interoperable implementations.

Personnel:

   Document Shepherd: Giles Heron (giheron@cisco.com)
   Area Director: Adrian Farrel (adrian@olddog.co.uk)

RFC Editor Note

  There are seven front page authors listed on this document. This is a 
  considered position reflecting the politics of this work.  The RFC Editor
  is asked to make an exception for this document.


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Hi All,
Time to request presentation slots for IETF 91.

If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 91 PALS session, please reply =
to this email (subject intact) completing the form below.   If L2VPNers are=
n't sure if their drafts will be addressed in PALS or BESS, they can send i=
n a request, and slot requests that belong to BESS will be forwarded with a=
 copy to the requester.  (See Andy=92s email below.)

Please use this form and please reply to this email.

- topic (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking):
- draft URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth=
-oam-iwk/):
- brief statement of objectives and issues that need to be discussed and re=
solved via the presentation during the meeting  (e.g., need to address secu=
rity issues and get direction from the WG):
- requested duration (norm is 10 min):
- speaker Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE):

Thanks!
Dave


From: Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com<mailto:agmalis@gmail.com>>
Date: Friday, October 17, 2014 at 3:25 AM
To: "pals@ietf.org<mailto:pals@ietf.org>" <pals@ietf.org<mailto:pals@ietf.o=
rg>>
Cc: "IETF.PWE3" <pwe3@ietf.org<mailto:pwe3@ietf.org>>, "l2vpn@ietf.org<mail=
to:l2vpn@ietf.org>" <l2vpn@ietf.org<mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org>>, Stewart Bryant=
 <stbryant@cisco.com<mailto:stbryant@cisco.com>>, David A Sinicrope <david.=
sinicrope@ericsson.com<mailto:david.sinicrope@ericsson.com>>
Subject: PALS WG on its way ....

If you haven't been following Adrian's recent emails, the expectation is th=
at PALS will be officially formed as a new WG in two weeks, and will meet i=
n Honolulu in the agenda spot currently reserved for L2VPN, Wednesday at 13=
:00. Our WG Secretary, David Sinicrope, will be issuing a call for agenda i=
tems. For those of you that were planning to present at PWE3, you'll be pre=
senting at PALS instead. For those of you that were planning to present at =
L2VPN, you may be presenting at PALS or at BESS, the latter primarily for E=
VPN-related drafts. Let Stewart or me know if you have any questions.

We would also like to start using the PALS WG email list going forward. My =
understanding is that if you were on the PWE3 list, you've been auto-subscr=
ibed to the PALS list. If you were on the L2VPN list but not on the PWE3 li=
st, you have to sign up for the PALS list on your own. The relevant informa=
tion for the list is:

List address: pals@ietf.org<mailto:pals@ietf.org>
Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/
To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals

Thanks,
Andy


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<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:&nbsp;</span>Andrew Malis &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com">agmalis@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Date:&nbsp;</span>Friday, October 17, 20=
14 at 3:25 AM<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:&nbsp;</span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:=
pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org"=
>pals@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:&nbsp;</span>&quot;IETF.PWE3&quot; &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:pwe3@ietf.org">pwe3@ietf.org</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"=
mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn=
@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>&gt;, Stewart Bryant &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stb=
ryant@cisco.com">stbryant@cisco.com</a>&gt;,
 David A Sinicrope &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:david.sinicrope@ericsson.com">davi=
d.sinicrope@ericsson.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:&nbsp;</span>PALS WG on its way =
....<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If you haven't been following Adrian's recent emails, the =
expectation is that PALS will be officially formed as a new WG in two weeks=
, and will meet in Honolulu in the agenda spot currently reserved for L2VPN=
, Wednesday at 13:00. Our WG Secretary,
 David Sinicrope, will be issuing a call for agenda items. For those of you=
 that were planning to present at PWE3, you'll be presenting at PALS instea=
d. For those of you that were planning to present at L2VPN, you may be pres=
enting at PALS or at BESS, the latter
 primarily for EVPN-related drafts. Let Stewart or me know if you have any =
questions.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We would also like to start using the PALS WG email list going forward=
. My understanding is that if you were on the PWE3 list, you've been auto-s=
ubscribed to the PALS list. If you were on the L2VPN list but not on the PW=
E3 list, you have to sign up for
 the PALS list on your own. The relevant information for the list is:</div>
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<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">List =
address:&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org" style=3D"font-family:=
 arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">pals@ietf.org</a><br style=3D"font-fa=
mily: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">
<span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Archive:&n=
bsp;</span><a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/" target=3D=
"_blank" style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">http://=
www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/</a><br style=3D"font-family: arial, san=
s-serif; font-size: 13px;">
<span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">To subscri=
be:&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals" targ=
et=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">ht=
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Andy</div>
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To: "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com>, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
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Support.

Regards,
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On 2014-10-06 6:15 AM, "Bitar, Nabil N" <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com> wrote:

>L2VPN WG,
>
>This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3Integrated
>Routing and Bridging in EVPN=B2,
>draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05,
>as an L2VPN WG document. The draft can be found at:
>http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05
>.txt
>
>This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always
>we are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please reply to
>this email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as
>a WG document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your
>support or objection are appreciated.
>
>This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
>
>Thanks,
>Nabil & Giles
>


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I support its adoption.

Yours Irrespectively,

John

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> in EVPN, draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05
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> L2VPN WG,
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> This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft "Integrated Rou=
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> Bridging in EVPN", draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05,
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> This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always=
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> This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014.
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Hi Giles,

I=B9m no aware of any IPR that has not been disclosed to the IETF.
Thanks!



Cheers,
Jeff


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From: Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, October 10, 2014 at 11:36 AM
To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: IPR (was L2VPN WG LC for SPBM EVPN)

>OK - so this is the draft I was supposed to issue the IPR call on
>(draft-ietf-l2vpn-sbpm-evpn).
>
>would all authors please respond to this email indicating whether there
>is any IPR that they are aware of which has not been disclosed to the
>IETF.
>
>Likewise if anyone else is aware of any IPR that has not already been
>disclosed to the IETF would you please respond to this email.
>
>this IPR call closes on Friday 24th October 2014.
>
>Giles
>
>On 10 Oct 2014, at 13:31, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>>=20
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-01
>>=20
>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for
>>publication as a Standards Track RFC.
>>=20
>> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
>>=20
>> Nabil & Giles
>


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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC4762,
"Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Using Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) Signaling".

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http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=4762&eid=4144

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Alexander ("Sasha") Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>

Section: Appendix A

Original Text
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   In a VPLS, we use a VCID (which, when using the PWid FEC, has been
   substituted with a more general identifier (AGI), to address
   extending the scope of a VPLS) to identify an emulated LAN segment.
   Note that the VCID as specified in [RFC4447] is a service identifier,
   identifying a service emulating a point-to-point virtual circuit.  In
   a VPLS, the VCID is a single service identifier, so it has global
   significance across all PEs involved in the VPLS instance.

Corrected Text
--------------
   In a VPLS, we use a PWID (which, when using the Generalized PW ID 
   FEC, has been substituted with a more general identifier (AGI), 
   to address
   extending the scope of a VPLS) to identify an emulated LAN segment.
   Note that the PWID as specified in [RFC4447] is a service identifier,
   identifying a service emulating a point-to-point virtual circuit.  In
   a VPLS, the PWID is a single service identifier, so it has global
   significance across all PEs involved in the VPLS instance.

Notes
-----
1. The problematic text follows a diagram depicting the PWID FEC (a.k.a. FEC-128) as it appears in RFC 4447. This diagram includes a 32-bit PWID field, but there is no VCID field. Nor is VCID mentioned anywhere in RFC 4447 - it has been used in the original Martini drafts but has then been replaced by PWID. 

2. According to RFC 4447, AGI is used only in the Generalized PW ID FEC (a.k.a. FEC-129) but not in the PWID FEC (a.k.a. FEC-128).

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RFC4762 (draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-09)
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Title               : Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Using Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) Signaling
Publication Date    : January 2007
Author(s)           : M. Lasserre, Ed., V. Kompella, Ed.
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks INT
Area                : Internet
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7387

        Title:      A Framework for Ethernet Tree 
                    (E-Tree) Service over a Multiprotocol Label 
                    Switching (MPLS) Network 
        Author:     R. Key, Ed.,
                    L. Yong, Ed.,
                    S. Delord, 
                    F. Jounay,
                    L. Jin
        Status:     Informational
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       October 2014
        Mailbox:    raymond.key@ieee.org, 
                    lucy.yong@huawei.com, 
                    simon.delord@gmail.com,
                    frederic.jounay@orange.ch, 
                    lizho.jin@gmail.com
        Pages:      13
        Characters: 28205
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-l2vpn-etree-frwk-10.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7387.txt

This document describes an Ethernet-Tree (E-Tree) solution framework
for supporting the Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) E-Tree service over a
Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) network.  The objective is to
provide a simple and effective approach to emulate E-Tree services
in addition to Ethernet LAN (E-LAN) services on an existing MPLS
network.

This document is a product of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.


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<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri">Another question:</font></p>
<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri">If we want to support VNI aware bundli=
ng EVPN, VN ID should be carried in the MPLS encapsulated frames. There car=
rying method can be:</font></p>
<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri">1. Using extra MPLS Label to carry VN =
ID. But MPLS Label has only 20 bits, it doesn't match 24bits VN ID.</font><=
/p>
<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri">2. Using&nbsp;Ethernet Tag&nbsp;to car=
ry VN ID. VLAN ID has only 12 bits, it also doesn't match 24bits VN ID.</fo=
nt></p>
<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri">Do you have any other carrying VN ID m=
ethod? What's your suggestions?</font></p>
<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri">Thanks</font></p>
<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri">weiguo</font></p>
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<b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB:</b> l2vpn@ietf.org<br>
<b>=D6=F7=CC=E2:</b> Questions about the draft &quot;draft-boutros-l2vpn-vx=
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<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri">Hi Co-authors,<br>
I have read the draft, it provides an applicable solution for VXLAN/NVGRE n=
etwork interconnection.
<br>
But some details haven't been clearly described, so i have the following qu=
estions:<br>
1. How to allocate ESI Label in this scenario?<br>
2. How to achieve mass MAC withdraw/Alias when local network occurs topolog=
y change?</font></p>
<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri">If you have considered this question, =
clarifications are appreciated. If you haven't considered, we can work toge=
ther for these points.<br>
Thanks</font></p>
<p><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri">weiguo</font></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) over Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS)
        Authors         : Olivier Dornon
                          Jayant Kotalwar
                          Venu Hemige
                          Ray Qiu
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-07.txt
	Pages           : 39
	Date            : 2014-10-24

Abstract:
   This document describes the procedures and recommendations for
   Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Provider Edges (PEs) to facilitate
   replication of multicast traffic to only certain ports (behind which
   there are interested Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) routers
   and/or Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) hosts) via Protocol
   Independent Multicast (PIM) snooping and proxying.

   With PIM snooping, PEs passively listen to certain PIM control
   messages to build control and forwarding states while transparently
   flooding those messages.  With PIM proxying, Provider Edges (PEs) do
   not flood PIM Join/Prune messages but only generate their own and
   send out of certain ports, based on the control states built from
   downstream Join/Prune messages.  PIM proxying is required when PIM
   Join suppression is enabled on the Customer Equipment (CE) devices
   and useful to reduce PIM control traffic in a VPLS domain.

   The document also describes PIM relay, which can be viewed as light-
   weight proxying, where all downstream Join/Prune messages are simply
   forwarded out of certain ports but not flooded to avoid triggering
   PIM Join suppression on CE devices.



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This version of the draft contains changes based on Eric's and Nabil's 
review.

There are still a number of open topics under discussion, a new version 
addressing these will be submitted soon.

Olivier.

On 10/24/2014 02:32 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>   This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.
>
>          Title           : Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) over Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS)
>          Authors         : Olivier Dornon
>                            Jayant Kotalwar
>                            Venu Hemige
>                            Ray Qiu
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-pim-snooping-07.txt
> 	Pages           : 39
> 	Date            : 2014-10-24
>
> Abstract:
>     This document describes the procedures and recommendations for
>     Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Provider Edges (PEs) to facilitate
>     replication of multicast traffic to only certain ports (behind which
>     there are interested Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) routers
>     and/or Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) hosts) via Protocol
>     Independent Multicast (PIM) snooping and proxying.
>
>     With PIM snooping, PEs passively listen to certain PIM control
>     messages to build control and forwarding states while transparently
>     flooding those messages.  With PIM proxying, Provider Edges (PEs) do
>     not flood PIM Join/Prune messages but only generate their own and
>     send out of certain ports, based on the control states built from
>     downstream Join/Prune messages.  PIM proxying is required when PIM
>     Join suppression is enabled on the Customer Equipment (CE) devices
>     and useful to reduce PIM control traffic in a VPLS domain.
>
>     The document also describes PIM relay, which can be viewed as light-
>     weight proxying, where all downstream Join/Prune messages are simply
>     forwarded out of certain ports but not flooded to avoid triggering
>     PIM Join suppression on CE devices.
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>
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>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Shortest Path Bridging, MAC mode Support over EVPN
        Authors         : Dave Allan
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Don Fedyk
                          Ali Sajassi
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-spbm-evpn-02.txt
	Pages           : 10
	Date            : 2014-10-24

Abstract:
   This document describes how Ethernet Shortest Path Bridging MAC mode
   (802.1aq) can be combined with EVPN in a way that interworks with
   PBB-PEs as described in the PBB-EVPN solution. This is achieved via
   operational isolation of each Ethernet network subtending an EVPN
   core while supporting full interworking between the different
   variations of Ethernet networks.


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Authors,

we have received questions from some of you on how to handle the 
submission of new revisions of your drafts that fall in the scope of BESS.

The procedure is quite simple:
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In short, when transitioning to BESS, revision number has to be reset to 00.

We will then request the secretariat to mark the old document as 
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For the specific case of documents being polled for adoption it shall be 
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this WG LC has now closed, and the draft has passed L2VPN WG Last Call

The draft will be shepherded through the new BESS WG, so I will discuss =
this with the BESS chairs.

Giles

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And nobody responded :(

I'll discuss with the PALS chairs as to whether this is dropped, or is =
progressed in PALS.

Giles

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : PBB-EVPN
        Authors         : Ali Sajassi
                          Samer Salam
                          Nabil Bitar
                          Aldrin Isaac
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Lizhong Jin
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-09.txt
	Pages           : 22
	Date            : 2014-10-24

Abstract:
   This document discusses how Ethernet Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB)
   can be combined with Ethernet VPN (EVPN) in order to reduce the
   number of BGP MAC advertisement routes by aggregating Customer/Client
   MAC (C-MAC) addresses via Provider Backbone MAC address (B-MAC),
   provide client MAC address mobility using C-MAC aggregation, confine
   the scope of C-MAC learning to only active flows, offer per site
   policies and avoid C-MAC address flushing on topology changes. The
   combined solution is referred to as PBB-EVPN.

Conventions

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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That really should indicate its time to drop it.=20



> On 24 Oct 2014, at 18:26, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> And nobody responded :(
>=20
> I'll discuss with the PALS chairs as to whether this is dropped, or is pr=
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>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:20, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
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Absolutely NOT!!!
I am sorry I missed the call.
Agree that attention has been diverted to newer
Activities in ietf but that does not mean that work
Items in the fading working group should be dropped.
This is implemented and deployed solution.
It is very important work and fills the gap that exist
For static PW configurations.=20

Please issue the last call again..

Thanks,
Himanshu
________________________________________
From: L2vpn [l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew McLachlan (amclach=
l) [amclachl@cisco.com]
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Subject: Re: L2VPN WG LC for MPLS-TP MAC-WD

That really should indicate its time to drop it.



> On 24 Oct 2014, at 18:26, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And nobody responded :(
>
> I'll discuss with the PALS chairs as to whether this is dropped, or is pr=
ogressed in PALS.
>
> Giles
>
>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:20, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>>
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00
>>
>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for publi=
cation as a Standards Track RFC.
>>
>> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
>>
>> Nabil & Giles
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This got caught up in the transition between WGs. PALS has a milestone for
the draft, and the WG last call will be re-run in PALS once our chartering
is complete. The WG chairs will also discuss the handoff of any other l2vpn
WG last calls in progress.

Cheers,
Andy


On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:

> Absolutely NOT!!!
> I am sorry I missed the call.
> Agree that attention has been diverted to newer
> Activities in ietf but that does not mean that work
> Items in the fading working group should be dropped.
> This is implemented and deployed solution.
> It is very important work and fills the gap that exist
> For static PW configurations.
>
> Please issue the last call again..
>
> Thanks,
> Himanshu
> ________________________________________
> From: L2vpn [l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew McLachlan
> (amclachl) [amclachl@cisco.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 12:44 AM
> To: Giles Heron
> Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: L2VPN WG LC for MPLS-TP MAC-WD
>
> That really should indicate its time to drop it.
>
>
>
> > On 24 Oct 2014, at 18:26, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > And nobody responded :(
> >
> > I'll discuss with the PALS chairs as to whether this is dropped, or is
> progressed in PALS.
> >
> > Giles
> >
> >> On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:20, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
> >>
> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00
> >>
> >> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for
> publication as a Standards Track RFC.
> >>
> >> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
> >>
> >> Nabil & Giles
> >
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">This got caught up in the transition between WGs. PALS has=
 a milestone for the draft, and the WG last call will be re-run in PALS onc=
e our chartering is complete. The WG chairs will also discuss the handoff o=
f any other l2vpn WG last calls in progress.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Cheer=
s,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Shah, Himanshu =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hshah@ciena.com" target=3D"_blank">=
hshah@ciena.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Abs=
olutely NOT!!!<br>
I am sorry I missed the call.<br>
Agree that attention has been diverted to newer<br>
Activities in ietf but that does not mean that work<br>
Items in the fading working group should be dropped.<br>
This is implemented and deployed solution.<br>
It is very important work and fills the gap that exist<br>
For static PW configurations.<br>
<br>
Please issue the last call again..<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Himanshu<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: L2vpn [<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org">l2vpn-bounces@ietf.o=
rg</a>] On Behalf Of Andrew McLachlan (amclachl) [<a href=3D"mailto:amclach=
l@cisco.com">amclachl@cisco.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 12:44 AM<br>
To: Giles Heron<br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto=
:pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: L2VPN WG LC for MPLS-TP MAC-WD<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
That really should indicate its time to drop it.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On 24 Oct 2014, at 18:26, Giles Heron &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:giles.hero=
n@gmail.com">giles.heron@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And nobody responded :(<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;ll discuss with the PALS chairs as to whether this is dropped, o=
r is progressed in PALS.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Giles<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:20, Giles Heron &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:giles.=
heron@gmail.com">giles.heron@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac=
-wd-00" target=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-=
tp-mac-wd-00</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for=
 publication as a Standards Track RFC.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Nabil &amp; Giles<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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I agree. Crickets don't implement drafts.

Tom=20




> On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:44 AM, Andrew McLachlan (amclachl) <amclachl@cisco.=
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>=20
>=20
> That really should indicate its time to drop it.=20
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>> On 24 Oct 2014, at 18:26, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> And nobody responded :(
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>> Giles
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>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:20, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
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Tom,
Do not understand what "Crickets don't implement drafts" means. ......

Here is the quote from Andy Malis:

This got caught up in the transition between WGs. PALS has a milestone for =
the draft, and the WG last call will be re-run in PALS once our chartering =
is complete. The WG chairs will also discuss the handoff of any other l2vpn=
 WG last calls in progress.=20

Cheers,
Andy

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From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Nadeau
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To: Andrew McLachlan (amclachl)
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Subject: Re: [Pals] L2VPN WG LC for MPLS-TP MAC-WD

I agree. Crickets don't implement drafts.

Tom=20




> On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:44 AM, Andrew McLachlan (amclachl) <amclachl@cisco=
.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> That really should indicate its time to drop it.=20
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>> On 24 Oct 2014, at 18:26, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> And nobody responded :(
>>=20
>> I'll discuss with the PALS chairs as to whether this is dropped, or is p=
rogressed in PALS.
>>=20
>> Giles
>>=20
>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:20, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
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>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00
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>>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for publ=
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>>>=20
>>> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
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>>> Nabil & Giles
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The confusion was due to the mix up of IPR call related to the draft =
with the LC. Later on there was another email saying, the IPR call was =
issues wrongly.
Hence, couldn=E2=80=99t respond to the LC email.

-sam


> On Oct 25, 2014, at 5:28 AM, Shah, Himanshu <hshah@ciena.com> wrote:
>=20
> Absolutely NOT!!!
> I am sorry I missed the call.
> Agree that attention has been diverted to newer
> Activities in ietf but that does not mean that work
> Items in the fading working group should be dropped.
> This is implemented and deployed solution.
> It is very important work and fills the gap that exist
> For static PW configurations.=20
>=20
> Please issue the last call again..
>=20
> Thanks,
> Himanshu
> ________________________________________
> From: L2vpn [l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew McLachlan =
(amclachl) [amclachl@cisco.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 12:44 AM
> To: Giles Heron
> Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: L2VPN WG LC for MPLS-TP MAC-WD
>=20
> That really should indicate its time to drop it.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> On 24 Oct 2014, at 18:26, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> And nobody responded :(
>>=20
>> I'll discuss with the PALS chairs as to whether this is dropped, or =
is progressed in PALS.
>>=20
>> Giles
>>=20
>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:20, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> This email initiates an IETF L2VPN WG Last Call for:
>>>=20
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-mpls-tp-mac-wd-00
>>>=20
>>> please comment to the list as to the suitability of this draft for =
publication as a Standards Track RFC.
>>>=20
>>> this last call will close on Friday 24th October 2014.
>>>=20
>>> Nabil & Giles
>>=20
>=20


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Hi everyone,

You can find our *draft* agenda at:
    http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/agenda/agenda-91-bess

Note well that this agenda is subject to change.
Do no hesitate to send us your feedback and comments.

Best,

-Thomas & Martin

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Hi Ali,

The working group draft agendas where due *yesterday*, for all working 
groups, which is why Monday 27th was the deadline we indicated in our 
call for presentations.

The L2VPN slot will be taken by PALS, so we don't have an option to take 
this slot to satisfy late request for meeting time.

Best,

-Thomas






2014-10-28, Ali Sajassi (sajassi):
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> I wasn¹t aware yesterday¹s timeline for time slot request is a hard one
> :-) I have a few drafts that I¹d like to discuss during the session and I
> don¹t know how many other people are in my shoes. Given that we have L2VPN
> session at our disposal, can we have another BESS session in that slot if
> we have enough materials to warrant another session?
>
> Cheers,
> Ali
>
>
>
> On 10/28/14, 8:21 AM, "Thomas Morin" <thomas.morin@orange.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> You can find our *draft* agenda at:
>>     http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/agenda/agenda-91-bess
>>
>> Note well that this agenda is subject to change.
>> Do no hesitate to send us your feedback and comments.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -Thomas & Martin
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>


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Subject: Just got word that PALS is official
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Sorry for the cross-posting, this will be the last time!

I just heard from Adrian that PALS has been approved by the IESG! You can
see the new charter at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pals/charter/ . I
would like to take this opportunity to thank Matthew, Giles, and Nabil for
all of their work with PWE3 and L2VPN.

Going forward, please use the PALS list rather than the PWE3 or L2VPN
lists. As WG drafts get updated, we'll remind authors to start using
draft-ietf-pals for their names, but there's no reason to update existing
WG drafts until they need updating anyway.

PALS will be meeting in the former L2VPN slot on Wednesday at 13:00-15:00,
and the former PWE3 slot on Friday will be returned to the secretariat for
reuse if necessary.

At some point, the datatracker and other tools will be updated to reflect
the new WG.

Please let Stewart and me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Andy
Your new PALS co-chair

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sorry for the cross-posting, this will be the last ti=
me!</div><div><br></div>I just heard from Adrian that PALS has been approve=
d by the IESG! You can see the new charter at=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://datat=
racker.ietf.org/wg/pals/charter/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pals/char=
ter/</a> . I would like to take this opportunity to thank Matthew, Giles, a=
nd Nabil for all of their work with PWE3 and L2VPN.<div><br></div><div>Goin=
g forward, please use the PALS list rather than the PWE3 or L2VPN lists. As=
 WG drafts get updated, we&#39;ll remind authors to start using draft-ietf-=
pals for their names, but there&#39;s no reason to update existing WG draft=
s until they need updating anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>PALS will be me=
eting in the former L2VPN slot on Wednesday at 13:00-15:00, and the former =
PWE3 slot on Friday will be returned to the secretariat for reuse if necess=
ary.</div><div><br></div><div>At some point, the datatracker and other tool=
s will be updated to reflect the new WG.</div><div><br></div><div>Please le=
t Stewart and me know if you have any questions.</div><div><br></div><div>T=
hanks,</div><div>Andy</div><div>Your new PALS co-chair</div><div><br></div>=
</div>

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A new Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

    Title         : IP-Only LAN Service (IPLS) 
    Author(s)     : H. Shah, et al
    Filename      : draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls
    Pages         : 31 
    Date          : 2014-10-30 
    
   A Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) is used to interconnect 
   systems across a wide-area or metropolitan-area network, making it 
   appear that they are on a private LAN.  The systems which are 
   interconnected may themselves be LAN switches.  If, however, they 
   are IP hosts or IP routers, certain simplifications to the operation 
   of the VPLS are possible.  We call this simplified type of VPLS an 
   &quot;IP-only LAN Service&quot; (IPLS).  In an IPLS, as in a VPLS, LAN 
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   The original intent was to provide an alternate solution to VPLS
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   The concepts put forth by this draft are still valuable and are
   adopted in one form or other by newer work such as Ethernet VPN
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Hi All,
I=92m still waiting on the tools to catch up with the new WG to post the ag=
enda on the meeting materials web pages.

In the meantime, below is the draft PALS agenda for Honolulu.
If you requested a slot and I haven=92t allocated one, my apologies, please=
 complete the form below and send it in reply to this email.
If you haven=92t requested a slot and need one, please complete the form be=
low and send it in reply to this email no later than 31 October 2014 12:00 =
EDT.
*** Taking a couple of minutes to complete the form helps me complete the a=
genda quickly and accurately.

Those that have slots allocated, please send me your slides no later than M=
onday 10 Nov 2014 17:00 Honolulu time.
If I don=92t have your slides by that time, you risk losing your slot.
Thanks!
Dave


**********************************************************************
IETF 91 PALS - Wednesday, November 12, 2014 - 13:00 - 15:00 Coral 4
(45/120 min allocated; ** Please note the time adjustments.)
**********************************************************************
Chairs: Stewart Bryant and Andy Malis
Secretary: David Sinicrope
(x =3D slide sets NOT received as of October 30, 2014 19:00 EDT)

x1. 15 min - Agenda bash, WG Agenda and Status - Andy MALIS and Stewart BRY=
ANT


x2. 10 min - MPLS LDP - Patrice BRISSETTE
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brissette-pals-pw-fec-label-request
Objective:  First submission, asking for feedback


x3. 10 min - S-PE Outage Protection for Static Multi-Segment Pseudowires - =
Andy MALIS
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shawam-pwe3-ms-pw-protection-02
Objective: Update showing new solution based on received comments from the =
previous revision, to prepare for WG adoption request.


x4. 10 min - A Unified Control Channel for Pseudowires - Stewart BRYANT
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-vccv-for-gal
Objective: Discuss comments and get some working group feedback on how they=
 were addressed or will be addressed.

**********************************************************************
Overflow (Will be presented if time permits.)
**********************************************************************

xx. - None currently

**********************************************************************
REMOTE INFORMATION FOR THE PALS SESSION(S)
**********************************************************************
Remote Participation Info:
http://www.ietf.org/meeting/91/remote-participation.html

- No WebEx
- Audio and Jabber are TBD


On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:06 PM, David Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.=
com<mailto:david.sinicrope@ericsson.com>> wrote:

Hi All,
Time to request presentation slots for IETF 91.

If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 91 PALS session, please reply =
to this email (subject intact) completing the form below.   If L2VPNers are=
n't sure if their drafts will be addressed in PALS or BESS, they can send i=
n a request, and slot requests that belong to BESS will be forwarded with a=
 copy to the requester.  (See Andy=92s email below.)

Please use this form and please reply to this email.

- topic (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking):
- draft URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth=
-oam-iwk/):
- brief statement of objectives and issues that need to be discussed and re=
solved via the presentation during the meeting  (e.g., need to address secu=
rity issues and get direction from the WG):
- requested duration (norm is 10 min):
- speaker Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE):

Thanks!
Dave


From: Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com<mailto:agmalis@gmail.com>>
Date: Friday, October 17, 2014 at 3:25 AM
To: "pals@ietf.org<mailto:pals@ietf.org>" <pals@ietf.org<mailto:pals@ietf.o=
rg>>
Cc: "IETF.PWE3" <pwe3@ietf.org<mailto:pwe3@ietf.org>>, "l2vpn@ietf.org<mail=
to:l2vpn@ietf.org>" <l2vpn@ietf.org<mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org>>, Stewart Bryant=
 <stbryant@cisco.com<mailto:stbryant@cisco.com>>, David A Sinicrope <david.=
sinicrope@ericsson.com<mailto:david.sinicrope@ericsson.com>>
Subject: PALS WG on its way ....

If you haven't been following Adrian's recent emails, the expectation is th=
at PALS will be officially formed as a new WG in two weeks, and will meet i=
n Honolulu in the agenda spot currently reserved for L2VPN, Wednesday at 13=
:00. Our WG Secretary, David Sinicrope, will be issuing a call for agenda i=
tems. For those of you that were planning to present at PWE3, you'll be pre=
senting at PALS instead. For those of you that were planning to present at =
L2VPN, you may be presenting at PALS or at BESS, the latter primarily for E=
VPN-related drafts. Let Stewart or me know if you have any questions.

We would also like to start using the PALS WG email list going forward. My =
understanding is that if you were on the PWE3 list, you've been auto-subscr=
ibed to the PALS list. If you were on the L2VPN list but not on the PWE3 li=
st, you have to sign up for the PALS list on your own. The relevant informa=
tion for the list is:

List address: pals@ietf.org<mailto:pals@ietf.org>
Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/
To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals

Thanks,
Andy


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https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess



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<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Hi All,</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">I=92m still waiting on the t=
ools to catch up with the new WG to post the agenda on the meeting material=
s web pages.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">In the meantime, below is th=
e draft PALS agenda for Honolulu.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">If you requested a slot and =
I haven=92t allocated one, my apologies, please complete the form below and=
 send it in reply to this email.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">If you haven=92t requested a=
 slot and need one, please complete the form below and send it in reply to =
this email no later than<b> 31 October 2014 12:00 EDT</b>.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">*** Taking a couple of minut=
es to complete the form helps me complete the agenda quickly and accurately=
. &nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Those that have slots alloca=
ted, please send me your slides no later than Monday 10 Nov 2014 17:00 Hono=
lulu time.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">If I don=92t have your slide=
s by that time, you risk losing your slot.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Thanks!</div>
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<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><br>
</div>
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***********************</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">IETF 91 PALS - Wednesday, November 12, 2014 - 1=
3:00 - 15:00 Coral 4</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">(45/120 min allocated; ** Please note the time =
adjustments.)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">***********************************************=
***********************</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">Chairs: Stewart Bryant and Andy Malis</font></d=
iv>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">Secretary: David Sinicrope</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">(x =3D slide sets NOT received as of October 30=
, 2014 19:00 EDT)</font></div>
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<div><font face=3D"Courier">x1. 15 min - Agenda bash, WG Agenda and Status =
- Andy MALIS and Stewart BRYANT</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">x2. 10 min - MPLS LDP - Patrice BRISSETTE</font=
></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brissette=
-pals-pw-fec-label-request</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">Objective: &nbsp;First submission, asking for f=
eedback</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">x3. 10 min - S-PE Outage Protection for Static =
Multi-Segment Pseudowires - Andy MALIS</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shawam-pwe3-ms=
-pw-protection-02</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">Objective: Update showing new solution based on=
 received comments from the previous revision, to prepare for WG adoption r=
equest.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">x4. 10 min - A Unified Control Channel for Pseu=
dowires - Stewart BRYANT</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3=
-vccv-for-gal</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">Objective: Discuss comments and get some workin=
g group feedback on how they were addressed or will be addressed.</font></d=
iv>
<div><font face=3D"Courier"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">***********************************************=
***********************</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">Overflow (Will be presented if time permits.)</=
font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">***********************************************=
***********************</font></div>
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***********************</font></div>
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t></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">***********************************************=
***********************</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">Remote Participation Info:&nbsp;</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Courier">http://www.ietf.org/meeting/91/remote-participa=
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<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:06 PM, David Sinicrope=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:david.sinicrope@ericsson.com" target=3D"_blank">david=
.sinicrope@ericsson.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"=
><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Hi All,<=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Time to =
request presentation slots for IETF 91. &nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><br>
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style=3D"col=
or: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">If yo=
u need a presentation slot for the IETF 91 PALS session, please
<b>reply to this email </b>(subject intact) completing the form below. &nbs=
p;<u></u><u></u></span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Ari=
al, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">&nbsp;I</span>f L2VPNers aren't sure if=
 their drafts will be addressed in PALS or BESS,
 they can send in a request, and slot requests that belong to BESS will be =
forwarded with a copy to the requester. &nbsp;(See Andy=92s email below.)</=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Rom=
an',serif;font-size:12pt;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:medium"><br>
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New Rom=
an',serif;font-size:12pt;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:medium">Please use this form and=
 please reply to this email.</span></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</=
span></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif;line-height:11.25pt">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">- topic =
(e.g.,&nbsp;<span>MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking):<u></u><u></u></span>=
</span></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><u></u><=
u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">- draft =
URL (e.g.,&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-=
mpls-eth-oam-iwk/" style=3D"color:purple" target=3D"_blank">http://datatrac=
ker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk/</a>):
 &nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">- brief =
statement of objectives and issues that need to be discussed and resolved v=
ia the presentation during the meeting &nbsp;(e.g., need to address securit=
y issues and get direction from the WG):
 &nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">- reques=
ted duration (norm is 10 min): &nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">- speake=
r Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE): &nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"=
>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</=
span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Thanks!<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Dave</sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><br>
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><br>
</span></p>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;border-width:1pt medium me=
dium;border-style:solid none none;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(=
181,196,223)">
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:&nbsp;</span>Andrew Malis &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">agmalis@gmail.com</a>&gt;<b=
r>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date:&nbsp;</span>Friday, October 17, 2014=
 at 3:25 AM<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:&nbsp;</span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:pa=
ls@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pals@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:pals@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pals@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc:&nbsp;</span>&quot;IETF.PWE3&quot; &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:pwe3@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pwe3@ietf.org</a>&gt;, &=
quot;<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>=
&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">l2vpn@ietf.o=
rg</a>&gt;,
 Stewart Bryant &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stbryant@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>stbryant@cisco.com</a>&gt;, David A Sinicrope &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:david.=
sinicrope@ericsson.com" target=3D"_blank">david.sinicrope@ericsson.com</a>&=
gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:&nbsp;</span>PALS WG on its way ..=
..<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">If you haven't been following Adrian's recent emails, the =
expectation is that PALS will be officially formed as a new WG in two weeks=
, and will meet in Honolulu in the agenda spot currently reserved for L2VPN=
, Wednesday at 13:00. Our WG Secretary,
 David Sinicrope, will be issuing a call for agenda items. For those of you=
 that were planning to present at PWE3, you'll be presenting at PALS instea=
d. For those of you that were planning to present at L2VPN, you may be pres=
enting at PALS or at BESS, the latter
 primarily for EVPN-related drafts. Let Stewart or me know if you have any =
questions.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We would also like to start using the PALS WG email list going forward=
. My understanding is that if you were on the PWE3 list, you've been auto-s=
ubscribed to the PALS list. If you were on the L2VPN list but not on the PW=
E3 list, you have to sign up for
 the PALS list on your own. The relevant information for the list is:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">List =
address:&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org" style=3D"font-family:=
arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" target=3D"_blank">pals@ietf.org</a><br sty=
le=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Archive:&n=
bsp;</span><a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/" style=3D"=
font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" target=3D"_blank">http://www.i=
etf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/</a><br style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif=
;font-size:13px">
<span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">To subscri=
be:&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals" styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals</a><br style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-=
serif;font-size:13px">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Andy</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
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tps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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From: "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Subject: Move all the work to BESS and PALS
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As Andy says, the IESG approved the creation of PALS. The formal announcement
will probably come out on Monday.

Please move all discussions to BESS or PALS as appropriate.

If you're not sure which group your work belongs in, please consult the chairs.
All L2VPN work has a home.

Once PALS is formally set up I will be closing this WG and list.

Can I take the opportunity again to thank Giles and Nabil for shepherding this
work and for all they've done to help the working group deliver.

Thanks,
Adrian

