From nobody Tue Nov 4 04:50:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC221A1B06; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 04:50:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QAUB2mY0DDhu; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 04:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A421A1B46; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 04:50:04 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Subject: Document Action: 'IP-Only LAN Service (IPLS)' to Historic RFC (draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls-16.txt) X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.2.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141104125004.9268.71241.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 04:50:04 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/x-W7z4YokaOMAX_SSya4eCJhrtI Cc: l2vpn mailing list , l2vpn chair , RFC Editor X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 12:50:24 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'IP-Only LAN Service (IPLS)' (draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls-16.txt) as Historic RFC This document is the product of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Alia Atlas. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls/ Technical Summary: A Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) is used to interconnect systems across a wide-area or metropolitan-area network, making it appear that they are on a private LAN. The systems which are interconnected may themselves be LAN switches. If, however, they are IP hosts or IP routers, certain simplifications to the operation of the VPLS are possible. We call this simplified type of VPLS an "IP-only LAN Service" (IPLS). In an IPLS, as in a VPLS, LAN interfaces are run in promiscuous mode, and frames are forwarded based on their destination MAC addresses. However, the maintenance of the MAC forwarding tables is done via signaling, rather than via the MAC address learning procedures specified in [IEEE 802.1D]. This draft specifies the protocol extensions and procedures for support of the IPLS service. The original intent was to provide an alternate solution to VPLS for those PE routers that were not capable of learning MAC address through data plane. This became a non-issue with newer hardware. The concepts put forth by this draft are still valuable and are adopted in one form or other by newer work such as Ethernet VPN in L2VPN Working Group and possible data center applications. At this point, no further action is planned to update this document and is published simply as a historic record of the ideas. Working Group Summary: This document is an L2VPN Working Group document, and has been reviewed in the working group through multiple iterations of the draft. It was considered to be an informational draft, with the last few iterations of the draft now cleaning up references. There was considerable debate during and after the WG last call which resulted in new revisions being issued to resolve various comments. After discussion with the serving AD, the document was changed to be Historic. Thus it presents a record of the working group discussions. The revised I-D was also shown to the WG to check for any concerns. Document Quality: The document provides a clear and concise set of requirements for IPLS - broken down into different requirement areas. As a requirements draft there is no protocol implement. Personnel: Document Shepherd: Andrew McLachlan (amclachl@cisco.com) Area Director: Adrian Farrel (adrian@olddog.co.uk) From nobody Tue Nov 4 09:23:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B251A0BE8; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:23:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.095 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.095 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id injjBZQDnhGL; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-8.cisco.com (alln-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.142.95]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25C831A19F4; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:23:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3154; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1415121815; x=1416331415; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=noVaPX9/Ggz2bGx9cqT5EigcV7geVGhS6xlkScz6S6I=; b=Du3hzwO3rJ5gVB8705M/xRqrXPDiSF8+F3dyqEvKSmNFbZojmwDOYGyL CBNjIEtyx2Zrldjqij/DHoCtOHfkY3lhZL0aArwKKdWIF40Xb04fcddit lQtIU9zgFGrMpGj8X4OzyAWek7Z1KU9PE5NNSNcTuES3imzGD/CgPnOXb E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhQFAFAKWVStJV2d/2dsb2JhbABbgmsjVFgEzleHTQKBIhYBAQEBAX2EAwIEOjMMEgEINkIlAgQBDQUbiCYBDM1vAQEBAQEBBAEBAQEBAQEBARmREAeESwWSIIRPhxiBMT2LI4IMhzKCBhgWgURsgUiBAwEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,313,1413244800"; d="scan'208";a="93272970" Received: from rcdn-core-6.cisco.com ([173.37.93.157]) by alln-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2014 17:23:34 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com [173.36.12.78]) by rcdn-core-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sA4HNYF9020259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 4 Nov 2014 17:23:34 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com ([173.36.12.78]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:23:34 -0600 From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" To: The IESG , IETF-Announce Subject: Re: Document Action: 'IP-Only LAN Service (IPLS)' to Historic RFC (draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls-16.txt) Thread-Topic: Document Action: 'IP-Only LAN Service (IPLS)' to Historic RFC (draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls-16.txt) Thread-Index: AQHP+C4S8b4e0YgytEeN1F4Qy596sJxQljiA Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 17:23:33 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20141104125004.9268.71241.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.8.130913 x-originating-ip: [10.128.2.78] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1DE1581D80829C4EA415E279A301334E@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/sZ_HcsPLF2f1XBl7G6yNbuOj9fw Cc: l2vpn mailing list , l2vpn chair , RFC Editor X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:23:36 -0000 Himanshu, Congrats! It only took 13 years for it to become a RFC :-) Look at the bright side of it - it happened while you are still alive :-) Cheers, Ali On 11/4/14, 4:50 AM, "The IESG" wrote: >The IESG has approved the following document: >- 'IP-Only LAN Service (IPLS)' > (draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls-16.txt) as Historic RFC > >This document is the product of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks >Working Group. > >The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Alia Atlas. > >A URL of this Internet Draft is: >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2vpn-ipls/ > > > > >Technical Summary: > > A Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) is used to interconnect > systems across a wide-area or metropolitan-area network, making it > appear that they are on a private LAN. The systems which are > interconnected may themselves be LAN switches. If, however, they > are IP hosts or IP routers, certain simplifications to the operation > of the VPLS are possible. We call this simplified type of VPLS an > "IP-only LAN Service" (IPLS). In an IPLS, as in a VPLS, LAN > interfaces are run in promiscuous mode, and frames are forwarded > based on their destination MAC addresses. However, the maintenance > of the MAC forwarding tables is done via signaling, rather than via > the MAC address learning procedures specified in [IEEE 802.1D]. > This draft specifies the protocol extensions and procedures for > support of the IPLS service. > > The original intent was to provide an alternate solution to VPLS > for those PE routers that were not capable of learning MAC address > through data plane. This became a non-issue with newer hardware. > The concepts put forth by this draft are still valuable and are > adopted in one form or other by newer work such as Ethernet VPN > in L2VPN Working Group and possible data center applications. At > this point, no further action is planned to update this document > and is published simply as a historic record of the ideas. > >Working Group Summary: > > This document is an L2VPN Working Group document, and has been >reviewed in=20 > the working group through multiple iterations of the draft. It was >considered to be an > informational draft, with the last few iterations of the draft now >cleaning up references. > There was considerable debate during and after the WG last call which >resulted in > new revisions being issued to resolve various comments. > > After discussion with the serving AD, the document was changed to be >Historic. Thus > it presents a record of the working group discussions. The revised I-D >was also=20 > shown to the WG to check for any concerns. > >Document Quality: > > The document provides a clear and concise set of requirements for >IPLS - broken=20 > down into different requirement areas. As a requirements draft there >is no protocol=20 > implement. > >Personnel: > > Document Shepherd: Andrew McLachlan (amclachl@cisco.com) > Area Director: Adrian Farrel (adrian@olddog.co.uk) > From nobody Tue Nov 4 12:08:50 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1931A7D80 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 12:08:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I68KYSnoPK5h for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 12:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from emea01-am1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com 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[173.38.208.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cg15sm9637141wjb.34.2014.11.07.04.26.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Nov 2014 04:26:44 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: WG adoption call for EVPN Overlay draft From: Giles Heron In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:26:42 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <44233995-5F74-49FF-957D-45F40F9AAC61@gmail.com> References: To: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/aJpu1lH2GAb57QiLRTq4LxVRdsQ X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 12:26:50 -0000 This draft has been adopted, however as L2VPN has closed it will be = progressed in BESS. Giles On 3 Oct 2014, at 13:42, Giles Heron wrote: > Hi WG, >=20 > this email initiates a WG adoption call for: >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03 >=20 > the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the = sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails = (if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier). Of course it = would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as = to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG = so the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with. >=20 > this poll will close on Friday October 17th. >=20 > Giles From nobody Fri Nov 7 09:52:08 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4E61AD3DA for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:52:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.095 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.095 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ebzaYnw-2l8O for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:52:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-4.cisco.com (alln-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.142.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B82B31AD3D3 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:52:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1455; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1415382724; x=1416592324; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=9/UXqHGd/HTi42tlDnqeHmZW4Yient1xqBQOd7OewqY=; b=Nsy12PJXUsQ2U21QpDO/2KUbgkco++Z2SDB+uff0VcFHbMnLpuRekUBU y+xUGtC9/iZY2XUJD7U+X6emDpOahTQQyg0AxNDSNU9HqzYXCo8yj7nXB zV8M3C9/MkK/dgiRU0+pUaO8NCsIwV1u1vXfQZgGiTubaR7R1cbO5oIfr A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFABcGXVStJA2F/2dsb2JhbABbgmsjVFkEy1mHTQKBHRYBAQEBAX2EAwEBBB0dUQEIGB4xESUCBAESCYgjAxIBDMkbDYZZAQEBAQYBAQEBHo5XgVgRAVeESwWPYIJHhFSFDYISgW+NfYZwg3lsAYEOOYEDAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,333,1413244800"; d="scan'208";a="94510457" Received: from alln-core-11.cisco.com ([173.36.13.133]) by alln-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Nov 2014 17:52:04 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com [173.37.183.88]) by alln-core-11.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sA7Hq4rH007359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:52:04 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com ([173.37.183.88]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:52:03 -0600 From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" Subject: Re: WG adoption call for EVPN Overlay draft Thread-Topic: WG adoption call for EVPN Overlay draft Thread-Index: AQHP+oYm9Ac8c2HSPUGm8NOa4U9OuZxVUH2A Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:52:02 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <44233995-5F74-49FF-957D-45F40F9AAC61@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.8.130913 x-originating-ip: [10.128.2.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0B0447731010F4429A151EC853A275E6@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/XveBiPiRs7IqQZhnclRtE82ieqM X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 17:52:06 -0000 Thanks Giles. I guess I need to publish it as draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-00.txt. BTW, what should we do with the following EVPN drafts that went through the WG calls: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05. txt http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04.txt http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt Do we need to reinitiate the call in the BESS or are we OK with the received responses? Do you need to discuss it with the BESS chairs first? Regards, Ali On 11/7/14, 4:26 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >This draft has been adopted, however as L2VPN has closed it will be >progressed in BESS. > >Giles > >On 3 Oct 2014, at 13:42, Giles Heron wrote: > >> Hi WG, >>=20 >> this email initiates a WG adoption call for: >>=20 >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03 >>=20 >> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the >>sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails >>(if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier). Of course it >>would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as >>to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG >>so the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with. >>=20 >> this poll will close on Friday October 17th. >>=20 >> Giles > From nobody Fri Nov 7 10:05:54 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4752C1AD3C2 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:05:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zCs8IrtPjOmN for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 924651A887E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:05:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id d1so5363428wiv.13 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:05:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=e69FXljrGveVfL5QomVV9ATzUXw+8tf2iSbZ+SibgmQ=; b=aFe326bAvGRLouJpToHE/klnjQikkmJ+3j4idq6Lz5ZcP3KMwXZcZmb55UFIMgKjtv 6HMDVhjsQw+Rq+eyc4cSIMRyq8zvwzX2hIQ1ijOIfxAudtMZpYm75/PMZzpaCxQ/E6lT iR5OlI03X/IrpxfCsNkWaCxprYp/+mUMBnWm7g2sMG4h7YKaWSKrx250QLOJaA17MvrT suAzcdt7WpcIrOg50f9yHnPuqPhynon5qQljtjH5egg4OYbHBckSJmv6jyquhuZpzChH djkrVx8X9Utcfn2/Os8rNU6jj/+Js5ACenOWDuwaX2O9nm7CYzkfE2cW7ShZWUjDRE4d FkvQ== X-Received: by 10.194.205.103 with SMTP id lf7mr15911433wjc.134.1415383145946; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 09:59:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-giheron-8913.cisco.com (173-38-208-169.cisco.com. [173.38.208.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s10sm6892225wjw.29.2014.11.07.09.59.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Nov 2014 09:59:05 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: WG adoption call for EVPN Overlay draft From: Giles Heron In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:59:03 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <55C12D1B-DA14-4070-832D-0F74A64BF193@gmail.com> References: To: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" , Nabil Bitar , bess-chairs@tools.ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/h0rb8WcCxeoGNPIQnUxl5mU03jc Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 18:05:52 -0000 Hi Ali, I'll leave it to Nabil to comment on the other 3 as he was handling the = adoption calls. I'd assume they'd be published in BESS also. As I mentioned in my earlier email we'll discuss the process for that = with the BESS chairs. Giles On 7 Nov 2014, at 17:52, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) = wrote: >=20 > Thanks Giles. I guess I need to publish it as > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-00.txt. BTW, what should we do with the > following EVPN drafts that went through the WG calls: >=20 > = http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05= . > txt > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04.txt > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt >=20 >=20 > Do we need to reinitiate the call in the BESS or are we OK with the > received responses? Do you need to discuss it with the BESS chairs = first? >=20 > Regards, > Ali >=20 >=20 > On 11/7/14, 4:26 AM, "Giles Heron" wrote: >=20 >> This draft has been adopted, however as L2VPN has closed it will be >> progressed in BESS. >>=20 >> Giles >>=20 >> On 3 Oct 2014, at 13:42, Giles Heron wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi WG, >>>=20 >>> this email initiates a WG adoption call for: >>>=20 >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03 >>>=20 >>> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for = the >>> sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" = emails >>> (if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier). Of course = it >>> would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments = as >>> to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN = WG >>> so the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with. >>>=20 >>> this poll will close on Friday October 17th. >>>=20 >>> Giles >>=20 >=20 From nobody Fri Nov 7 14:40:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9039C1A1B64; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:40:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lhFtV-YJM8Lr; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AC361A1B3B; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id n3so5950936wiv.0 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:40:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ghZyO5R7rZCX5XE72MGsMRt4B8hgSyLAFmPTZLUeWWw=; b=friG+VTUqbhqBeinc9852e/Zmr3SND7BsPVKZAHDqU6pWLJS+RplqLx5fGmyV0q3w3 8CVWGV4RNfJGmlBBQyX0qwQdMAusE6nAf+wsdemnag5ASMZg1Rn8iSADhZxaf01ub3LO /xwskbUqxZ76ua5ZWaSuEMbi1+2o7mmPE2eVfNHuMU/xGSs8T8Nnx68okEgMy5nUqi2S Gb9AO1wR6LHk3XjI2CZ0gm2BmwBqD3tLWXDRPDfQUykI4aQI7FoXnzWpusWaYe8L/EhU ziOBnPlzfobfcRdokbjX/+LzGe8ueYX7cDy7YsmD3t11HyZIS7Y9Kj76Y0gnLZyGZDqQ 9VCA== X-Received: by 10.194.242.4 with SMTP id wm4mr20057366wjc.61.1415400030295; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ARennes-652-1-187-250.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr. [2.11.250.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g16sm2450274wjq.20.2014.11.07.14.40.27 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:40:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: Thomas Morin Message-ID: <545D4A57.4080505@orange.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 23:40:23 +0100 From: Thomas Morin Organization: Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giles Heron , "l2vpn@ietf.org" , BESS Subject: Re: WG adoption call for EVPN Overlay draft References: <44233995-5F74-49FF-957D-45F40F9AAC61@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44233995-5F74-49FF-957D-45F40F9AAC61@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/5rtJTECKEzAdx8fcH-7svvaCtRk Cc: draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 22:40:33 -0000 Hi, Can authors please re-submit the document as draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-00 (as soon as the ID upload tool reopens) ? Thanks, -Thomas 2014-11-07, Giles Heron: > This draft has been adopted, however as L2VPN has closed it will be progressed in BESS. > > Giles > > On 3 Oct 2014, at 13:42, Giles Heron wrote: > >> Hi WG, >> >> this email initiates a WG adoption call for: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03 >> >> the draft was well supported at the WG meeting in Toronto, but for the sake of record do feel free to send the usual flood of "Support!" emails (if nothing else to make the doc shepherd's job easier). Of course it would be even more helpful if people could send substantive comments as to the suitability (or not) of this draft for adoption by the L2VPN WG so the authors/chairs actually have some feedback to work with. >> >> this poll will close on Friday October 17th. >> >> Giles > From nobody Mon Nov 10 18:07:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637EE1ACD77; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:06:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eIoXJLLKD6nU; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1974F1A884C; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:06:27 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c6180641-f79916d00000623a-bc-54611414e1ba Received: from EUSAAHC006.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.90]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id A9.57.25146.51411645; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:37:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC006.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.90]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:06:25 -0500 From: David Sinicrope To: "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: PALS IETF 91 Slot Requests - Honolulu - SLIDES Thread-Topic: PALS IETF 91 Slot Requests - Honolulu - SLIDES Thread-Index: AQHP/VQZHqOzMsDfbUyUw/W8mdfHAg== Importance: high X-Priority: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 02:06:25 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.1.130117 x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.12] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D086905B159D3Bdavidsinicropeericssoncom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrJIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPlK6oSGKIwetmFYvTz0+xWaw4PpPZ 4vG3Q+wWa/6tY7Lo+7SFxeLc0zmMDmweU35vZPXYOesuu8eSJT+ZApijuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0S uDKW/b3AVDDhEGPF63+b2BsYP61i7GLk5JAQMJF4c2wbM4QtJnHh3nq2LkYuDiGBI4wSy5// Z4JwljNKHO24yQpSxQbUsW7jHhYQW0RAWWLX+SmMIEXMAusYJW483cMEkhAWsJZoP/oCqshG 4u2so6wQtp7EzMutYHFOAQGJX+2zWCBW80pMmXuSHcRmEVCVeNu8F+wkXgEriSt/3zNC1FtL tM2dzwZiMwKd+v3UGrBdzALiEreezGeCmCMgsWTPeah3RCVePv4HtlcUaO/69t1QNUoSc15f Y4bojZf4tOUrG8QuQYmTM5+wTGAUn4Vk7CwkZbOQlEHEDSTen5vPDGFrSyxb+BrK1pfY+OUs I4RtLbGlfxYTspoFjByrGDlKi1PLctONDDcxAuP6mASb4w7GBZ8sDzEKcDAq8fAacCeGCLEm lhVX5h5ilOZgURLn1ayeFywkkJ5YkpqdmlqQWhRfVJqTWnyIkYmDU6qBcVfCs59RarpiG3Sy 9sr/8955wFBwYcvc2ZcLWiOKb7u4n1v4rH/Z+wKBGUtOmhxU2PfSZtPsUI2vjb9VdJ2SZh6a 8fiJodDpLYKSf+OX3S/8G8b450t/I/v186cWPZXuzLHnjtXaJvQ1fOucK3dUGM0XTxCvdNx5 20/jxgOBjOUnJrYycW7q/KTEUpyRaKjFXFScCABvCCPuzAIAAA== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/0ZpMJpwRiQRPUZbU7rY9l1dPGIc Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , Andrew Malis , "IETF.PWE3" , "bess@ietf.org" , Stewart Bryant X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 02:06:45 -0000 --_000_D086905B159D3Bdavidsinicropeericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/agenda/agenda-91-pals The agenda for PALS is above. Speakers, please reply to this email with your slides as soon as possible= =85 only 1 hr left to the deadline. Thanks, Dave From: David A Sinicrope > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2014 at 1:17 PM To: "pals@ietf.org" > Cc: "IETF.PWE3" >, "l2vpn@ietf.org" >, Stewart Bryant= >, Andrew Malis >, "bess@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [bess] PALS IETF 91 Slot Requests - Honolulu Hi All, I=92m still waiting on the tools to catch up with the new WG to post the ag= enda on the meeting materials web pages. In the meantime, below is the draft PALS agenda for Honolulu. If you requested a slot and I haven=92t allocated one, my apologies, please= complete the form below and send it in reply to this email. If you haven=92t requested a slot and need one, please complete the form be= low and send it in reply to this email no later than 31 October 2014 12:00 = EDT. *** Taking a couple of minutes to complete the form helps me complete the a= genda quickly and accurately. Those that have slots allocated, please send me your slides no later than M= onday 10 Nov 2014 17:00 Honolulu time. If I don=92t have your slides by that time, you risk losing your slot. Thanks! Dave ********************************************************************** IETF 91 PALS - Wednesday, November 12, 2014 - 13:00 - 15:00 Coral 4 (45/120 min allocated; ** Please note the time adjustments.) ********************************************************************** Chairs: Stewart Bryant and Andy Malis Secretary: David Sinicrope (x =3D slide sets NOT received as of October 30, 2014 19:00 EDT) x1. 15 min - Agenda bash, WG Agenda and Status - Andy MALIS and Stewart BRY= ANT x2. 10 min - MPLS LDP - Patrice BRISSETTE http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brissette-pals-pw-fec-label-request Objective: First submission, asking for feedback x3. 10 min - S-PE Outage Protection for Static Multi-Segment Pseudowires - = Andy MALIS http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shawam-pwe3-ms-pw-protection-02 Objective: Update showing new solution based on received comments from the = previous revision, to prepare for WG adoption request. x4. 10 min - A Unified Control Channel for Pseudowires - Stewart BRYANT http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-vccv-for-gal Objective: Discuss comments and get some working group feedback on how they= were addressed or will be addressed. ********************************************************************** Overflow (Will be presented if time permits.) ********************************************************************** xx. - None currently ********************************************************************** REMOTE INFORMATION FOR THE PALS SESSION(S) ********************************************************************** Remote Participation Info: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/91/remote-participation.html - No WebEx - Audio and Jabber are TBD On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:06 PM, David Sinicrope > wrote: Hi All, Time to request presentation slots for IETF 91. If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 91 PALS session, please reply = to this email (subject intact) completing the form below. If L2VPNers are= n't sure if their drafts will be addressed in PALS or BESS, they can send i= n a request, and slot requests that belong to BESS will be forwarded with a= copy to the requester. (See Andy=92s email below.) Please use this form and please reply to this email. - topic (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking): - draft URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth= -oam-iwk/): - brief statement of objectives and issues that need to be discussed and re= solved via the presentation during the meeting (e.g., need to address secu= rity issues and get direction from the WG): - requested duration (norm is 10 min): - speaker Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE): Thanks! Dave From: Andrew Malis > Date: Friday, October 17, 2014 at 3:25 AM To: "pals@ietf.org" > Cc: "IETF.PWE3" >, "l2vpn@ietf.org" >, Stewart Bryant= >, David A Sinicrope > Subject: PALS WG on its way .... If you haven't been following Adrian's recent emails, the expectation is th= at PALS will be officially formed as a new WG in two weeks, and will meet i= n Honolulu in the agenda spot currently reserved for L2VPN, Wednesday at 13= :00. Our WG Secretary, David Sinicrope, will be issuing a call for agenda i= tems. For those of you that were planning to present at PWE3, you'll be pre= senting at PALS instead. For those of you that were planning to present at = L2VPN, you may be presenting at PALS or at BESS, the latter primarily for E= VPN-related drafts. Let Stewart or me know if you have any questions. We would also like to start using the PALS WG email list going forward. My = understanding is that if you were on the PWE3 list, you've been auto-subscr= ibed to the PALS list. If you were on the L2VPN list but not on the PWE3 li= st, you have to sign up for the PALS list on your own. The relevant informa= tion for the list is: List address: pals@ietf.org Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/ To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals Thanks, Andy _______________________________________________ BESS mailing list BESS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess --_000_D086905B159D3Bdavidsinicropeericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <057F1DA9BFAAEE448DA9570A47CA92B8@ericsson.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,

The agenda for PALS is above.

Speakers, please reply to this email with your slides as soon a= s possible=85 only 1 hr left to the deadline.

Thanks,
Dave


From: David A Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com&g= t;
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2014 at= 1:17 PM
To: "pals@ietf.org" <pals@i= etf.org>
Cc: "IETF.PWE3" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com>, Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>, "bess@ietf.org" <<= a href=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org">bess@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bess] PALS IETF 91 Sl= ot Requests - Honolulu


Hi All,
I=92m still waiting on the t= ools to catch up with the new WG to post the agenda on the meeting material= s web pages. 

In the meantime, below is th= e draft PALS agenda for Honolulu.
If you requested a slot and = I haven=92t allocated one, my apologies, please complete the form below and= send it in reply to this email.
If you haven=92t requested a= slot and need one, please complete the form below and send it in reply to = this email no later than 31 October 2014 12:00 EDT.
*** Taking a couple of minut= es to complete the form helps me complete the agenda quickly and accurately= .  

Those that have slots alloca= ted, please send me your slides no later than Monday 10 Nov 2014 17:00 Hono= lulu time.
If I don=92t have your slide= s by that time, you risk losing your slot.
Thanks!
Dave


***********************************************= ***********************
IETF 91 PALS - Wednesday, November 12, 2014 - 1= 3:00 - 15:00 Coral 4
(45/120 min allocated; ** Please note the time = adjustments.)
***********************************************= ***********************
Chairs: Stewart Bryant and Andy Malis
Secretary: David Sinicrope
(x =3D slide sets NOT received as of October 30= , 2014 19:00 EDT)

x1. 15 min - Agenda bash, WG Agenda and Status = - Andy MALIS and Stewart BRYANT


x2. 10 min - MPLS LDP - Patrice BRISSETTE
Objective:  First submission, asking for f= eedback


x3. 10 min - S-PE Outage Protection for Static = Multi-Segment Pseudowires - Andy MALIS
Objective: Update showing new solution based on= received comments from the previous revision, to prepare for WG adoption r= equest.


x4. 10 min - A Unified Control Channel for Pseu= dowires - Stewart BRYANT
Objective: Discuss comments and get some workin= g group feedback on how they were addressed or will be addressed.

***********************************************= ***********************
Overflow (Will be presented if time permits.)
***********************************************= ***********************

xx. - None currently

***********************************************= ***********************
REMOTE INFORMATION FOR THE PALS SESSION(S)
***********************************************= ***********************
Remote Participation Info: 

- No WebEx
- Audio and Jabber are TBD


On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:06 PM, David Sinicrope= <david= .sinicrope@ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi All,<= /span>

Time to = request presentation slots for IETF 91.  


If yo= u need a presentation slot for the IETF 91 PALS session, please reply to this email (subject intact) completing the form below. &nbs= p; If L2VPNers aren't sure if= their drafts will be addressed in PALS or BESS, they can send in a request, and slot requests that belong to BESS will be = forwarded with a copy to the requester.  (See Andy=92s email below.)


Please use this form and= please reply to this email.

 

- topic = (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking):=

<= u>

- brief = statement of objectives and issues that need to be discussed and resolved v= ia the presentation during the meeting  (e.g., need to address securit= y issues and get direction from the WG):  

- reques= ted duration (norm is 10 min):  

- speake= r Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE):  

 

Thanks!<= u>

Dave



From: Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> Date: Friday, October 17, 2014= at 3:25 AM
To: "pals@ietf.org" <pals@ietf.org>
Cc: "IETF.PWE3" <= pwe3@ietf.org>, &= quot;l2vpn@ietf.org= " <l2vpn@ietf.o= rg>, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com>, David A Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com&= gt;
Subject: PALS WG on its way ..= ..

If you haven't been following Adrian's recent emails, the = expectation is that PALS will be officially formed as a new WG in two weeks= , and will meet in Honolulu in the agenda spot currently reserved for L2VPN= , Wednesday at 13:00. Our WG Secretary, David Sinicrope, will be issuing a call for agenda items. For those of you= that were planning to present at PWE3, you'll be presenting at PALS instea= d. For those of you that were planning to present at L2VPN, you may be pres= enting at PALS or at BESS, the latter primarily for EVPN-related drafts. Let Stewart or me know if you have any = questions.

We would also like to start using the PALS WG email list going forward= . My understanding is that if you were on the PWE3 list, you've been auto-s= ubscribed to the PALS list. If you were on the L2VPN list but not on the PW= E3 list, you have to sign up for the PALS list on your own. The relevant information for the list is:



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--_000_D086905B159D3Bdavidsinicropeericssoncom_-- From nobody Tue Nov 11 12:59:34 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885BE1ABB19; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:59:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IQaS7saUMVxF; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31A221AC3FF; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:59:24 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c6180641-f79916d00000623a-42-54621d8f18c4 Received: from EUSAAHC008.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.96]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 91.DE.25146.F8D12645; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:30:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC008.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.96]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:59:18 -0500 From: David Sinicrope To: "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS IETF 91 Slot Requests - Honolulu - SLIDES Thread-Topic: [Pals] PALS IETF 91 Slot Requests - Honolulu - SLIDES Thread-Index: AQHP/ViSsnnDjIBbS0u061avRqKI2Jxbli8A Importance: high X-Priority: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:59:17 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.1.130117 x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.9] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D0879B7915B5F5davidsinicropeericssoncom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrNIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPgu4E2aQQgx3HxCxOPz/FZrHi+Exm i8ffDrFbrPm3jsmi79MWFgdWj52z7rJ7LFnykymAKYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEr4+TZy8wF5+4x VrxfydHAuPYIYxcjJ4eEgIlE59F7LBC2mMSFe+vZuhi5OIQEjjBKvFj6nxnCWc4o8XfzeiaQ KjagjnUb94B1iAgoS+w6P4URpIhZoI9R4syXVewgCWEBJ4nN51+yQRQ5S7xbtBqomQPINpJY fNAeJMwpICDxq30W1GZeiSlzT7KDlLAIqErcnRENEuYVsJI4/2ALM0S5nsSsPc/BbEagQ7+f WgN2DrOAuMStJ/OZIMYISCzZc54ZwhaVePn4HyuILQrUu759N1SNosS+/unsEL3xEm9e32WB 2CUocXLmE5YJjOKzkIydhaRsFpIyiLiBxPtz85khbG2JZQtfQ9n6Ehu/nGWcBfQNs4C1xOL3 YshKFjByrGLkKC1OLctNNzLcxAiM3WMSbI47GBd8sjzEKMDBqMTDa8CdGCLEmlhWXJl7iFGa g0VJnFezel6wkEB6YklqdmpqQWpRfFFpTmrxIUYmDk6pBsbmmq3xF1JjzJbW6/21STvX3V97 0PNFqFbW/xDG601RHCJy97kuex75Fuj2fs7ai0+UtmQu2qD0cGHa1v5wW5OtaYuynkvX/ZzJ Fdn7tWC72M0IGdNvvD/f1kyZ9u/Mkcne36MUjQ7MKS233VF2cEVF6ZcHyV9ZDKapmnRul3jL zOjQuPz81F1KLMUZiYZazEXFiQAJaq2vvgIAAA== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/mA4fnDXpDKxJiH-Z-0fjo2hxHOA Cc: "L2vpn@ietf.org" , "IETF.PWE3" , "agmalis@gmail.com" , "bess@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:59:31 -0000 --_000_D0879B7915B5F5davidsinicropeericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, The updated agenda is here: Agenda The latest slides are here: Proceedings I believe I=92ve reflected all comments and requests received. Let me know if you have any questions by reply to this email. Thanks! Dave From: David Sinicrope > Date: Monday, November 10, 2014 at 9:06 PM To: "pals@ietf.org" > Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" >, Andrew Malis >, "IETF= .PWE3" >, "bess@ietf.org" >, "Stewart Bryant (stbryant)"= > Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS IETF 91 Slot Requests - Honolulu - SLIDES Hi All, http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/agenda/agenda-91-pals The agenda for PALS is above. Speakers, please reply to this email with your slides as soon as possible= =85 only 1 hr left to the deadline. Thanks, Dave From: David A Sinicrope > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2014 at 1:17 PM To: "pals@ietf.org" > Cc: "IETF.PWE3" >, "l2vpn@ietf.org" >, Stewart Bryant= >, Andrew Malis >, "bess@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [bess] PALS IETF 91 Slot Requests - Honolulu Hi All, I=92m still waiting on the tools to catch up with the new WG to post the ag= enda on the meeting materials web pages. In the meantime, below is the draft PALS agenda for Honolulu. If you requested a slot and I haven=92t allocated one, my apologies, please= complete the form below and send it in reply to this email. If you haven=92t requested a slot and need one, please complete the form be= low and send it in reply to this email no later than 31 October 2014 12:00 = EDT. *** Taking a couple of minutes to complete the form helps me complete the a= genda quickly and accurately. Those that have slots allocated, please send me your slides no later than M= onday 10 Nov 2014 17:00 Honolulu time. If I don=92t have your slides by that time, you risk losing your slot. Thanks! Dave ********************************************************************** IETF 91 PALS - Wednesday, November 12, 2014 - 13:00 - 15:00 Coral 4 (45/120 min allocated; ** Please note the time adjustments.) ********************************************************************** Chairs: Stewart Bryant and Andy Malis Secretary: David Sinicrope (x =3D slide sets NOT received as of October 30, 2014 19:00 EDT) x1. 15 min - Agenda bash, WG Agenda and Status - Andy MALIS and Stewart BRY= ANT x2. 10 min - MPLS LDP - Patrice BRISSETTE http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brissette-pals-pw-fec-label-request Objective: First submission, asking for feedback x3. 10 min - S-PE Outage Protection for Static Multi-Segment Pseudowires - = Andy MALIS http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shawam-pwe3-ms-pw-protection-02 Objective: Update showing new solution based on received comments from the = previous revision, to prepare for WG adoption request. x4. 10 min - A Unified Control Channel for Pseudowires - Stewart BRYANT http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-vccv-for-gal Objective: Discuss comments and get some working group feedback on how they= were addressed or will be addressed. ********************************************************************** Overflow (Will be presented if time permits.) ********************************************************************** xx. - None currently ********************************************************************** REMOTE INFORMATION FOR THE PALS SESSION(S) ********************************************************************** Remote Participation Info: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/91/remote-participation.html - No WebEx - Audio and Jabber are TBD On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:06 PM, David Sinicrope > wrote: Hi All, Time to request presentation slots for IETF 91. If you need a presentation slot for the IETF 91 PALS session, please reply = to this email (subject intact) completing the form below. If L2VPNers are= n't sure if their drafts will be addressed in PALS or BESS, they can send i= n a request, and slot requests that belong to BESS will be forwarded with a= copy to the requester. (See Andy=92s email below.) Please use this form and please reply to this email. - topic (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking): - draft URL (e.g., http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth= -oam-iwk/): - brief statement of objectives and issues that need to be discussed and re= solved via the presentation during the meeting (e.g., need to address secu= rity issues and get direction from the WG): - requested duration (norm is 10 min): - speaker Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE): Thanks! Dave From: Andrew Malis > Date: Friday, October 17, 2014 at 3:25 AM To: "pals@ietf.org" > Cc: "IETF.PWE3" >, "l2vpn@ietf.org" >, Stewart Bryant= >, David A Sinicrope > Subject: PALS WG on its way .... If you haven't been following Adrian's recent emails, the expectation is th= at PALS will be officially formed as a new WG in two weeks, and will meet i= n Honolulu in the agenda spot currently reserved for L2VPN, Wednesday at 13= :00. Our WG Secretary, David Sinicrope, will be issuing a call for agenda i= tems. For those of you that were planning to present at PWE3, you'll be pre= senting at PALS instead. For those of you that were planning to present at = L2VPN, you may be presenting at PALS or at BESS, the latter primarily for E= VPN-related drafts. Let Stewart or me know if you have any questions. We would also like to start using the PALS WG email list going forward. My = understanding is that if you were on the PWE3 list, you've been auto-subscr= ibed to the PALS list. If you were on the L2VPN list but not on the PWE3 li= st, you have to sign up for the PALS list on your own. The relevant informa= tion for the list is: List address: pals@ietf.org Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pals/ To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals Thanks, Andy _______________________________________________ BESS mailing list BESS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess --_000_D0879B7915B5F5davidsinicropeericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All, 
The updated agenda is here: Agenda

The latest slides are here:  Proceedings

I believe I=92ve reflected all comments and requests received.
Let me know if you have any questions by reply to this email.
Thanks!
Dave

From: David Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com&g= t;
Date: Monday, November 10, 2014 at = 9:06 PM
To: "pals@ietf.org" <pals@i= etf.org>
Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2v= pn@ietf.org>, Andrew Malis <= agmalis@gmail.com>, "IETF.PWE3" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>, "Stewart Bryant (stbr= yant)" <stbryant@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Pals] PALS IETF 91 Sl= ot Requests - Honolulu - SLIDES

Hi All,
The agenda for PALS is above.

Speakers, please reply to this email with your slides as soon a= s possible=85 only 1 hr left to the deadline.

Thanks,
Dave


From: David A Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com&g= t;
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2014 at= 1:17 PM
To: "pals@ietf.org" <pals@i= etf.org>
Cc: "IETF.PWE3" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com>, Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>, "bess@ietf.org" <<= a href=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org">bess@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bess] PALS IETF 91 Sl= ot Requests - Honolulu


Hi All,
I=92m still waiting on the t= ools to catch up with the new WG to post the agenda on the meeting material= s web pages. 

In the meantime, below is th= e draft PALS agenda for Honolulu.
If you requested a slot and = I haven=92t allocated one, my apologies, please complete the form below and= send it in reply to this email.
If you haven=92t requested a= slot and need one, please complete the form below and send it in reply to = this email no later than 31 October 2014 12:00 EDT.
*** Taking a couple of minut= es to complete the form helps me complete the agenda quickly and accurately= .  

Those that have slots alloca= ted, please send me your slides no later than Monday 10 Nov 2014 17:00 Hono= lulu time.
If I don=92t have your slide= s by that time, you risk losing your slot.
Thanks!
Dave


***********************************************= ***********************
IETF 91 PALS - Wednesday, November 12, 2014 - 1= 3:00 - 15:00 Coral 4
(45/120 min allocated; ** Please note the time = adjustments.)
***********************************************= ***********************
Chairs: Stewart Bryant and Andy Malis
Secretary: David Sinicrope
(x =3D slide sets NOT received as of October 30= , 2014 19:00 EDT)

x1. 15 min - Agenda bash, WG Agenda and Status = - Andy MALIS and Stewart BRYANT


x2. 10 min - MPLS LDP - Patrice BRISSETTE
Objective:  First submission, asking for f= eedback


x3. 10 min - S-PE Outage Protection for Static = Multi-Segment Pseudowires - Andy MALIS
Objective: Update showing new solution based on= received comments from the previous revision, to prepare for WG adoption r= equest.


x4. 10 min - A Unified Control Channel for Pseu= dowires - Stewart BRYANT
Objective: Discuss comments and get some workin= g group feedback on how they were addressed or will be addressed.

***********************************************= ***********************
Overflow (Will be presented if time permits.)
***********************************************= ***********************

xx. - None currently

***********************************************= ***********************
REMOTE INFORMATION FOR THE PALS SESSION(S)
***********************************************= ***********************
Remote Participation Info: 

- No WebEx
- Audio and Jabber are TBD


On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:06 PM, David Sinicrope= <david= .sinicrope@ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi All,<= /span>

Time to = request presentation slots for IETF 91.  


If yo= u need a presentation slot for the IETF 91 PALS session, please reply to this email (subject intact) completing the form below. &nbs= p; If L2VPNers aren't sure if= their drafts will be addressed in PALS or BESS, they can send in a request, and slot requests that belong to BESS will be = forwarded with a copy to the requester.  (See Andy=92s email below.)


Please use this form and= please reply to this email.

 

- topic = (e.g., MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking):=

<= u>

- brief = statement of objectives and issues that need to be discussed and resolved v= ia the presentation during the meeting  (e.g., need to address securit= y issues and get direction from the WG):  

- reques= ted duration (norm is 10 min):  

- speake= r Given-name FAMILY-NAME (e.g., Dave SINICROPE):  

 

Thanks!<= u>

Dave



From: Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> Date: Friday, October 17, 2014= at 3:25 AM
To: "pals@ietf.org" <pals@ietf.org>
Cc: "IETF.PWE3" <= pwe3@ietf.org>, &= quot;l2vpn@ietf.org= " <l2vpn@ietf.o= rg>, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com>, David A Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com&= gt;
Subject: PALS WG on its way ..= ..

If you haven't been following Adrian's recent emails, the = expectation is that PALS will be officially formed as a new WG in two weeks= , and will meet in Honolulu in the agenda spot currently reserved for L2VPN= , Wednesday at 13:00. Our WG Secretary, David Sinicrope, will be issuing a call for agenda items. For those of you= that were planning to present at PWE3, you'll be presenting at PALS instea= d. For those of you that were planning to present at L2VPN, you may be pres= enting at PALS or at BESS, the latter primarily for EVPN-related drafts. Let Stewart or me know if you have any = questions.

We would also like to start using the PALS WG email list going forward= . My understanding is that if you were on the PWE3 list, you've been auto-s= ubscribed to the PALS list. If you were on the L2VPN list but not on the PW= E3 list, you have to sign up for the PALS list on your own. The relevant information for the list is:



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 --_000_D0879B7915B5F5davidsinicropeericssoncom_-- From nobody Tue Nov 11 13:05:38 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5791A1A80; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:05:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EX8CvKIHBZHd; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from omzsmtpe02.verizonbusiness.com (omzsmtpe02.verizonbusiness.com [199.249.25.209]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3E311ACCE1; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:05:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=verizon.com; i=nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com; q=dns/txt; s=corp; t=1415739934; x=1447275934; h=from:to:cc:date:subject:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=Wxz1/UR7iM8lcNZoItLSajbfnoUcB1LvLB2PvMQptCU=; b=p6RLmhHnpgqOoJhDHUmnEuxPy8LSO1X1rQ1pDCBASDiNp39LNPcCs57y H0Z3J3t+ckphJ4boQerkq2LQvfCiQbrubfVHBRlA/zDv6aEcgapE5fwJv WdsB32SgUUNwKf65QZcI7gsl88/5MbqLQ9bMhhkuzSSZQm7PU9bofpMnH c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi03.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.145]) by omzsmtpe02.verizonbusiness.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2014 21:05:32 +0000 From: "Bitar, Nabil N" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,362,1413244800"; d="scan'208";a="868127612" Received: from fldp1lumxc7hb02.verizon.com (HELO FLDP1LUMXC7HB02.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.75.85]) by fldsmtpi03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2014 21:05:31 +0000 Received: from fldp1lumxc7v63.us.one.verizon.com ([169.254.3.190]) by FLDP1LUMXC7HB02.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.75.85]) with mapi; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:05:31 -0500 To: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:05:31 -0500 Subject: RE: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02 Thread-Topic: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02 Thread-Index: AQHP4WiX83RQ5agjbEmXtubbNpwJQJxcIgQa Message-ID: References: , , , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/wEYtZ7rzWoeZZamSXuplV1tJmM4 Cc: "l2vpn-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "bess-chairs@tools.ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:05:37 -0000 Hi, For the record, this call had closed on October 20. The draft has good supp= ort, has no objections, and it came about in the l2vpn working group to pro= vide a guide on using the different evpn capabilities. Based on this, this = draft is adopted as a WG group draft and will progress in BESS. The authors= are to issue this draft as BESS working group draft, and will coordinate t= hat with the BESS chairs. Apologies for the delay in the announcement as we are waiting the forming o= f the new groups. Thanks, Nabil ________________________________________ From: L2vpn [l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bitar, Nabil N [nabil.n.b= itar@verizon.com] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 9:20 AM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft "Usage and applicability of= BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN", draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02 L2VPN WG, This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =93Usage and appl= icability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN=94, draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02, = as an L2VPN WG document. The draft can be found at: http://tools.ietf.org/= id/draft-rp-l2vpn-evpn-usage-02.txt. This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always w= e are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to this= email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a WG = document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or ob= jection are appreciated. This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014. Thanks, Nabil & Giles From nobody Tue Nov 11 13:11:29 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51E71ACD0B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:11:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.295 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.295 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hI2qrhCQL_R1 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:11:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from fldsmtpe03.verizon.com (fldsmtpe03.verizon.com [140.108.26.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF2651ACDAC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:11:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=verizon.com; i=nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com; q=dns/txt; s=corp; t=1415740266; x=1447276266; h=from:to:date:subject:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=hRcAg1rUrUfd7vy8UbYLlUEyvRBvysl3hALXmlrmxug=; b=R9IX68PG6I6GZDzShYocTiZhwqajMmWxCZtrlBBKdEsc0YjP6gFsZpeU m5h8+b041L5PQtcjaJVNJEBTCpHP02ORv4sW24tCnDN3m8lidoLPgjtLd igN0+SLElAnADAjAk5U03z0K+c+cbiNRCygCylZArayc2TN6K4siK5bss I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi01.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.143]) by fldsmtpe03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2014 21:10:58 +0000 From: "Bitar, Nabil N" To: "Bitar, Nabil N" , "l2vpn@ietf.org" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,362,1413244800"; d="scan'208";a="901970987" Received: from fldp1lumxc7hb02.verizon.com (HELO FLDP1LUMXC7HB02.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.75.85]) by fldsmtpi01.verizon.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2014 21:10:55 +0000 Received: from fldp1lumxc7v63.us.one.verizon.com ([169.254.3.190]) by FLDP1LUMXC7HB02.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.75.85]) with mapi; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:10:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:09:17 -0500 Subject: RE: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft Integrated Routing and Bridging in EVPN, draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05 Thread-Topic: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft Integrated Routing and Bridging in EVPN, draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05 Thread-Index: AQHP4WXwjS6QSXZDCUOTnJPs4fsLzJxcJLdG Message-ID: References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/TlKUTPhedd2RpGsCRj3fwGbcZTM X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:11:27 -0000 Hi, For the record, this call had closed on October 20. The draft has good supp= ort. There are some comments received on the mailing list that need to be a= ddressed as part of the evolution of this draft. Based on this, this draft = is adopted as a WG group draft and will progress in BESS. The authors are t= o issue this draft as BESS working group draft, and will coordinate that wi= th the BESS chairs. Apologies for the delay in the announcement as we are waiting the forming o= f the new groups. Thanks, Nabil ________________________________________ From: L2vpn [l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bitar, Nabil N [nabil.n.b= itar@verizon.com] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 9:15 AM To: l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft Integrated Routing and Brid= ging in EVPN, draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05 L2VPN WG, This is the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =93Integrated Rou= ting and Bridging in EVPN=94, draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forward= ing-05, as an L2VPN WG document. The draft can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/id/= draft-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05.txt This draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always w= e are taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please reply to this = email indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a WG d= ocument. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or obj= ection are appreciated. This call will close on Monday, October 20, 2014. Thanks, Nabil & Giles From nobody Sat Nov 15 11:02:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B731A1B59; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:02:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66jic1lHdCwe; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:02:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F3711A047A; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:02:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sAFJ2Nt8014029; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 19:02:23 GMT Received: from 950129200 (64-129-13-2.static.twtelecom.net [64.129.13.2] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sAFJ2JLu014014 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 15 Nov 2014 19:02:21 GMT From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Please close the L2VPN working group Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 19:02:16 -0000 Message-ID: <103101d00106$ae30f520$0a92df60$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdABBqrCHQciAXA7Tz2PRuFCKZqwIQ== Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1576-7.5.0.1018-21106.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--3.428-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--3.428-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: bIZCmyI98CJLracwFf93AwhWgIsZuXlPC4rWEiK1Igez1FGTfG5vYh8a RhKglPt81Ss56aAqitF3xGwYRvkWcU+r+ZEjGRe9gNMFzGNLElCeimGtNywjtpsoi2XrUn/JyeM tMD9QOgCrrVqVQLpWR+TCMddcL/gjsjvNV98mpPMZfPtlRNpiJY60oEnbbZcObk5KqEefC/g3c0 LoNfUUiZx7LFw5nohKxCoeW0dT2BaH/JCvitQD6SHK6aCMTbp1P5auqMpnWCs= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/6VYqpVDcVfMAclh8jx9TlLMohFQ Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, bess@ietf.org, pals@ietf.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 19:02:27 -0000 Hi, Please close the L2VPN working group. Please keep the mailing list open and the archive active. We may return and close the mailing list in due course, but it is a useful back-stop for accidental emails and for message that are automatically generated by the processing of documents in the pipe. Thanks, Adrian From nobody Tue Nov 18 17:58:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085381ACEF9; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:57:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.795 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.795 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fJvs1j86m7lI; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DFD21ACEF5; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BLU05916; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 01:57:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA411-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.70) by lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 01:57:45 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA506-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.14]) by szxema411-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.70]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:57:33 +0800 From: Jiangyuanlong To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "iesg-secretary@ietf.org" Subject: RE: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group Thread-Topic: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group Thread-Index: AdABBqrCHQciAXA7Tz2PRuFCKZqwIQClQo9Q Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 01:57:32 +0000 Message-ID: <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B5A7F77CE@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <103101d00106$ae30f520$0a92df60$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <103101d00106$ae30f520$0a92df60$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.76.118] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/vPhP527oydkQTeNak1P-3BLC1D8 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "iesg@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 01:57:50 -0000 Hi Adrian, Do we need to update those existing WG documents to version 00 of PALS or B= ESS WG document? Regards, Yuanlong -----Original Message----- From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:02 AM To: iesg-secretary@ietf.org Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org Subject: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group Hi, Please close the L2VPN working group. Please keep the mailing list open and the archive active. We may return and close the mailing list in due course, but it is a useful back-stop for accidental emails and for message that are automatically gene= rated by the processing of documents in the pipe. Thanks, Adrian _______________________________________________ Pals mailing list Pals@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Wed Nov 19 05:31:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A651A1B9B; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:31:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FqfM2W-8rSvK; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com (mail-wi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EF161A1C05; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r20so8876643wiv.4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:31:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=kIzUCAIMPZItb1yWRYE6ISd9FQFiKbYbYFnqHuG+GiE=; b=lzvOwHmb/5tRoICUPlQMnaxQ5qGHVrAlSvTVgEqHt7dLcMW6MmIiDECXCEJrj6qryC Twddk7edHXSGK8HzDGfEvoDJOGo0Irm3zLAZh5Ii1mqAO8JXxZ3Tc/9hhDwTes7fiXv4 w4S4Vj60Q69qfsYgAKM8/nYBVFk4yt1HdQvWC81iPXTDmLsWWpXGzjG1dGBCi52a23Eg 1W5rCWWAuxxiSqU0eflHMb72bcEpY3uSCqvMbaF/fqcNgYSJgKwCCjRiuAdg/+jMX2Z0 lBSsBBAJJXT7Y5hK+J3Rr5+ufdhmA/Te5JsRBC8NvrP4HrhBQZNiTasSIybaBFVcXh7g ZZBg== X-Received: by 10.194.156.201 with SMTP id wg9mr41631662wjb.59.1416403869290; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:31:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:420:c0c0:1001::39? ([2001:420:c0c0:1001::39]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h13sm2250167wiw.4.2014.11.19.05.31.06 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:31:08 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group From: Giles Heron In-Reply-To: <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B5A7F77CE@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:31:04 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <103101d00106$ae30f520$0a92df60$@olddog.co.uk> <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B5A7F77CE@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> To: Jiangyuanlong X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/MXYGxcWU4D1jZexd6khZGoUvG8Y Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "iesg-secretary@ietf.org" , "iesg@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:31:12 -0000 Hi Yuanlong, we've been talking to the PALS and BESS chairs. You should be hearing = from them directly depending on which WG your draft ends up in. Where docs have passed WG Last Call already Nabil and I will shepherd = them. Are you requesting specifically for draft-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree? I think = Nabil plans to shepherd that one - but I'll leave it to him to comment. Giles On 19 Nov 2014, at 01:57, Jiangyuanlong = wrote: > Hi Adrian, >=20 > Do we need to update those existing WG documents to version 00 of PALS = or BESS WG document? >=20 > Regards, > Yuanlong >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:02 AM > To: iesg-secretary@ietf.org > Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org > Subject: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Please close the L2VPN working group. >=20 > Please keep the mailing list open and the archive active. > We may return and close the mailing list in due course, but it is a = useful > back-stop for accidental emails and for message that are automatically = generated > by the processing of documents in the pipe. >=20 > Thanks, > Adrian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Wed Nov 19 17:33:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBE91A6FCC; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:33:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.795 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.795 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RZhkVBfNDuLb; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 015611A6F13; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BLV14426; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:33:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA402-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.34) by lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:33:07 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA506-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.14]) by SZXEMA402-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.34]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:32:56 +0800 From: Jiangyuanlong To: Giles Heron , "Bitar, Nabil N" Subject: RE: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group Thread-Topic: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group Thread-Index: AdABBqrCHQciAXA7Tz2PRuFCKZqwIQClQo9QAAeTdQAAKTWdsA== Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:32:56 +0000 Message-ID: <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B5A7F7A86@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <103101d00106$ae30f520$0a92df60$@olddog.co.uk> <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B5A7F77CE@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.76.118] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/gwcEg-16qrzeQh-Bvy3gvb2TSN4 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:33:12 -0000 Giles, Thank you for the information. I could not attend the 91st IETF meeting bec= ause of the visa processing delay, thus I had no idea what is the exact nex= t step for this document. I do find draft-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree has been listed in the milestone of PAL= S WG, that's the reason I asked the question. Now we find some editorial updates are needed for this document, not sure w= hether we should revise it now or wait for the end of LC to upload a new ve= rsion. Best regards, Yuanlong -----Original Message----- From: Giles Heron [mailto:giles.heron@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:31 PM To: Jiangyuanlong Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; iesg-secretary@ietf.org; l2vpn@ietf.org; iesg@ietf= .org; bess@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group Hi Yuanlong, we've been talking to the PALS and BESS chairs. You should be hearing fro= m them directly depending on which WG your draft ends up in. Where docs have passed WG Last Call already Nabil and I will shepherd them. Are you requesting specifically for draft-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree? I think Nab= il plans to shepherd that one - but I'll leave it to him to comment. Giles On 19 Nov 2014, at 01:57, Jiangyuanlong wrote: > Hi Adrian, >=20 > Do we need to update those existing WG documents to version 00 of PALS or= BESS WG document? >=20 > Regards, > Yuanlong >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:02 AM > To: iesg-secretary@ietf.org > Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org > Subject: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Please close the L2VPN working group. >=20 > Please keep the mailing list open and the archive active. > We may return and close the mailing list in due course, but it is a usefu= l > back-stop for accidental emails and for message that are automatically ge= nerated > by the processing of documents in the pipe. >=20 > Thanks, > Adrian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals From nobody Thu Nov 20 04:14:44 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD4B1A0262; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 04:14:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.095 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.095 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZwchOXO4MFIA; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 04:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from aer-iport-1.cisco.com (aer-iport-1.cisco.com [173.38.203.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A34941A0163; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 04:14:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2754; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1416485673; x=1417695273; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LH9gy1lBl0gzcLrlWzt44Rv0NdRdt9rbF9YwVrGQf+0=; b=m48/6/Dz611oc2xrb8+PYdX8kizDi1EjUDyGjcOoXPl9cZyPb1BHsbj9 A6HMnwuYEmNuoy418KxPT4yrRm5Mduwtkd0SZaZCbAah0ZqLTbwA46d8r Q4z8VoBti/lAiDvojaCA9scNy5WOHzkuzmpqFEdItrpKHnu6tdHHC2yTJ s=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,423,1413244800"; d="scan'208";a="245347082" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-4.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2014 12:14:31 +0000 Received: from [10.61.170.20] ([10.61.170.20]) by aer-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sAKCEUfL031700; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:14:30 GMT Message-ID: <546DDB27.7000601@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:14:31 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jiangyuanlong , Giles Heron , "Bitar, Nabil N" Subject: Re: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group References: <103101d00106$ae30f520$0a92df60$@olddog.co.uk> <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B5A7F77CE@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B5A7F7A86@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B5A7F7A86@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/Y-CwJTENyfJVUdGL4K313JUTatI Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:14:36 -0000 I normally recommend waiting to the end of LC before making any changes to the text. That way everyone is talking about the same text. Stewart On 20/11/2014 01:32, Jiangyuanlong wrote: > Giles, > > Thank you for the information. I could not attend the 91st IETF meeting because of the visa processing delay, thus I had no idea what is the exact next step for this document. > I do find draft-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree has been listed in the milestone of PALS WG, that's the reason I asked the question. > > Now we find some editorial updates are needed for this document, not sure whether we should revise it now or wait for the end of LC to upload a new version. > > Best regards, > Yuanlong > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Giles Heron [mailto:giles.heron@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:31 PM > To: Jiangyuanlong > Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; iesg-secretary@ietf.org; l2vpn@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group > > Hi Yuanlong, > > we've been talking to the PALS and BESS chairs. You should be hearing from them directly depending on which WG your draft ends up in. > > Where docs have passed WG Last Call already Nabil and I will shepherd them. > > Are you requesting specifically for draft-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree? I think Nabil plans to shepherd that one - but I'll leave it to him to comment. > > Giles > > On 19 Nov 2014, at 01:57, Jiangyuanlong wrote: > >> Hi Adrian, >> >> Do we need to update those existing WG documents to version 00 of PALS or BESS WG document? >> >> Regards, >> Yuanlong >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel >> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:02 AM >> To: iesg-secretary@ietf.org >> Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org >> Subject: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group >> >> Hi, >> >> Please close the L2VPN working group. >> >> Please keep the mailing list open and the archive active. >> We may return and close the mailing list in due course, but it is a useful >> back-stop for accidental emails and for message that are automatically generated >> by the processing of documents in the pipe. >> >> Thanks, >> Adrian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pals mailing list >> Pals@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pals mailing list >> Pals@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > . > -- For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html From nobody Thu Nov 20 04:18:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F531A0163; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 04:18:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.795 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.795 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YFJosbDvXHnb; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 04:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C97E61A0151; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 04:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml406-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BPA15113; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:18:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA408-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.40) by lhreml406-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.243) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:18:29 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA506-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.14]) by SZXEMA408-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.40]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:18:23 +0800 From: Jiangyuanlong To: "stbryant@cisco.com" , Giles Heron , "Bitar, Nabil N" Subject: RE: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group Thread-Topic: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group Thread-Index: AdABBqrCHQciAXA7Tz2PRuFCKZqwIQClQo9QAAeTdQAAKTWdsAAGaJSAABDNGgA= Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:18:22 +0000 Message-ID: <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B5A7F7BF6@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <103101d00106$ae30f520$0a92df60$@olddog.co.uk> <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B5A7F77CE@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> <3B0A1BED22CAD649A1B3E97BE5DDD68B5A7F7A86@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> <546DDB27.7000601@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <546DDB27.7000601@cisco.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.76.118] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/Zxl4TL4OTy4Jvz5XMREsoJgQauQ Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:18:35 -0000 Stewart, I got it, thank a lot.=20 Cheers, Yuanlong -----Original Message----- From: Stewart Bryant [mailto:stbryant@cisco.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:15 PM To: Jiangyuanlong; Giles Heron; Bitar, Nabil N Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group I normally recommend waiting to the end of LC before making any changes to the text. That way everyone is talking about the same text. Stewart On 20/11/2014 01:32, Jiangyuanlong wrote: > Giles, > > Thank you for the information. I could not attend the 91st IETF meeting b= ecause of the visa processing delay, thus I had no idea what is the exact n= ext step for this document. > I do find draft-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree has been listed in the milestone of P= ALS WG, that's the reason I asked the question. > > Now we find some editorial updates are needed for this document, not sure= whether we should revise it now or wait for the end of LC to upload a new = version. > > Best regards, > Yuanlong > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Giles Heron [mailto:giles.heron@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:31 PM > To: Jiangyuanlong > Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; iesg-secretary@ietf.org; l2vpn@ietf.org; iesg@ie= tf.org; bess@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group > > Hi Yuanlong, > > we've been talking to the PALS and BESS chairs. You should be hearing f= rom them directly depending on which WG your draft ends up in. > > Where docs have passed WG Last Call already Nabil and I will shepherd the= m. > > Are you requesting specifically for draft-l2vpn-vpls-pe-etree? I think N= abil plans to shepherd that one - but I'll leave it to him to comment. > > Giles > > On 19 Nov 2014, at 01:57, Jiangyuanlong wrote: > >> Hi Adrian, >> >> Do we need to update those existing WG documents to version 00 of PALS o= r BESS WG document? >> >> Regards, >> Yuanlong >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel >> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:02 AM >> To: iesg-secretary@ietf.org >> Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org; pals@ietf.org >> Subject: [Pals] Please close the L2VPN working group >> >> Hi, >> >> Please close the L2VPN working group. >> >> Please keep the mailing list open and the archive active. >> We may return and close the mailing list in due course, but it is a usef= ul >> back-stop for accidental emails and for message that are automatically g= enerated >> by the processing of documents in the pipe. >> >> Thanks, >> Adrian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pals mailing list >> Pals@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pals mailing list >> Pals@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals > . > --=20 For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html From nobody Thu Nov 20 06:43:20 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5BD1A1A5B; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:43:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -107.496 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-107.496 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68EMLTTz6wRu; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE5C1A1A58; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id C3036180448; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:42:20 -0800 (PST) To: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com, mlasserre@alcatel-lucent.com, vach.kompella@alcatel-lucent.com Subject: [Errata Verified] RFC4762 (4144) X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20141120144220.C3036180448@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:42:20 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/0k0lUdSC6jNVCww66Ml0oIDOtqM Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:43:19 -0000 The following errata report has been verified for RFC4762, "Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Using Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) Signaling". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=4762&eid=4144 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Editorial Reported by: Alexander ("Sasha") Vainshtein Date Reported: 2014-10-23 Verified by: Adrian Farrel (IESG) Section: Appendix A Original Text ------------- In a VPLS, we use a VCID (which, when using the PWid FEC, has been substituted with a more general identifier (AGI), to address extending the scope of a VPLS) to identify an emulated LAN segment. Note that the VCID as specified in [RFC4447] is a service identifier, identifying a service emulating a point-to-point virtual circuit. In a VPLS, the VCID is a single service identifier, so it has global significance across all PEs involved in the VPLS instance. Corrected Text -------------- In a VPLS, we use a PWID (which, when using the Generalized PW ID FEC, has been substituted with a more general identifier (AGI), to address extending the scope of a VPLS) to identify an emulated LAN segment. Note that the PWID as specified in [RFC4447] is a service identifier, identifying a service emulating a point-to-point virtual circuit. In a VPLS, the PWID is a single service identifier, so it has global significance across all PEs involved in the VPLS instance. Notes ----- 1. The problematic text follows a diagram depicting the PWID FEC (a.k.a. FEC-128) as it appears in RFC 4447. This diagram includes a 32-bit PWID field, but there is no VCID field. Nor is VCID mentioned anywhere in RFC 4447 - it has been used in the original Martini drafts but has then been replaced by PWID. 2. According to RFC 4447, AGI is used only in the Generalized PW ID FEC (a.k.a. FEC-129) but not in the PWID FEC (a.k.a. FEC-128). -------------------------------------- RFC4762 (draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-09) -------------------------------------- Title : Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Using Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) Signaling Publication Date : January 2007 Author(s) : M. Lasserre, Ed., V. Kompella, Ed. Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks INT Area : Internet Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Thu Nov 20 08:59:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF141A1A6C; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:59:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -107.496 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-107.496 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qcqLfq5CYzXm; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:59:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6281A0318; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 5C57018008D; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:58:34 -0800 (PST) To: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com, tnadeau@lucidvision.com, kkoushik@brocade.com, romedira@cisco.com Subject: [Errata Rejected] RFC7257 (4059) X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20141120165834.5C57018008D@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:58:34 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/lDvc-SolhvVGHTUxtTZJ2Wkt7jI Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:59:38 -0000 The following errata report has been rejected for RFC7257, "Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Management Information Base". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7257&eid=4059 -------------------------------------- Status: Rejected Type: Technical Reported by: Alexander ("Sasha") Vainshtein Date Reported: 2014-07-23 Rejected by: Adrian Farrel (IESG) Section: 6 Original Text ------------- N/A - this is about some missing MIB objects that should be there Corrected Text -------------- N/A - this is hardly the right place to define missing MIB objects Notes ----- As per RFC 4762 (which defines at least one of the two VPLS types for which this RFC defines Management Information Base), Virtual Switching Instance (VSI)(a local representation of a given VPLS instance within a given PE) is connected to CE devices via Attachment Circuits (AC). Hence I would expect that Management Information Base for VPLS would provide for some representation of ACs that perform this function for a given VSI. However, this RFC does not even mention attachment circuits in any way. I have tried to raise this issue with the WG and the authors. One of the authors has replied (see http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l2vpn/current/msg04539.html) that "ACs are attached to the VPLS instances and are represented as IfMIB entries". However, neither Interfaces MIB nor any of its key elements (e.g., ifIndex) are mentioned in this RFC. --VERIFIER NOTES-- The errata system isn't to be used for recording future work or major defects in RFCs. These need to be taken to the relevant mailing lists (in this case pals@ietf.org) and progressed with Internet-Drafts. This concern could probably be addressed through a new MIB module that augments the on in RFC 7257. -------------------------------------- RFC7257 (draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mib-15) -------------------------------------- Title : Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Management Information Base Publication Date : July 2014 Author(s) : T. Nadeau, Ed., A. Kiran Koushik, Ed., R. Mediratta, Ed. Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Thu Nov 20 09:51:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F7A1A1BAF; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:51:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IAlkY-pHHNlL; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4A41A1B23; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:51:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IESG Secretary To: IETF Announcement List Subject: WG Action: Conclusion of Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks (l2vpn) X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141120175103.8174.81789.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:51:03 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/2K3l4pRj5li_x5mbaLa10ggj7Ww Cc: l2vpn@ietf.org, giheron@cisco.com X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:51:08 -0000 The Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks (l2vpn) working group in the Routing Area has concluded. The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Alia Atlas. The mailing list will remain open. From nobody Sat Nov 22 22:39:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: l2vpn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BCE1A1AE5; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:38:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3iQj0JrUaT5W; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from emea01-am1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-am1on0711.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fe00::711]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A64C51A1ADD; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:38:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from DB3PR03MB0812.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.161.55.144) by DB3PR03MB0811.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.161.55.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.16.15; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:38:32 +0000 Received: from DB3PR03MB0812.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com ([25.161.55.144]) by DB3PR03MB0812.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com ([25.161.55.144]) with mapi id 15.01.0016.006; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:38:32 +0000 From: Alexander Vainshtein To: "Rohit Mediratta (romedira)" Subject: Re: [Errata Rejected] RFC7257 (4059) Thread-Topic: [Errata Rejected] RFC7257 (4059) Thread-Index: AQHQBONeACPsIVzGZ0yR5QS2cW9v5Zxp3WUAgAPcvZw= Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:38:32 +0000 Message-ID: <1416724708290.77016@ecitele.com> References: <20141120165834.5C57018008D@rfc-editor.org>, <1DC9F8B59EE8154A9BB8AC6D817BD01512880747@xmb-rcd-x08.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <1DC9F8B59EE8154A9BB8AC6D817BD01512880747@xmb-rcd-x08.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [79.181.11.49] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:DB3PR03MB0811; x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:DB3PR03MB0811; x-forefront-prvs: 04041A2886 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(377454003)(199003)(189002)(164054003)(377424004)(13464003)(92566001)(86362001)(92726001)(2656002)(87936001)(97736003)(64706001)(20776003)(19580405001)(19580395003)(15975445006)(21056001)(62966003)(77156002)(77096003)(122556002)(40100003)(110136001)(15202345003)(50986999)(76176999)(54356999)(15188155005)(101416001)(16799955002)(31966008)(46102003)(120916001)(99396003)(117636001)(66066001)(36756003)(95666004)(105586002)(4396001)(107046002)(106356001)(106116001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:DB3PR03MB0811; H:DB3PR03MB0812.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: ecitele.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/l2vpn/TER1-NxcfRnQdOSER1f8DEv45y0 Cc: "l2vpn@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" , "kkoushik@brocade.com" X-BeenThere: l2vpn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:38:59 -0000 Rohit,=0A= Lots of thanks for your response.=0A= =0A= Unfortunately I cannot say it addresses my concerns.=0A= =0A= The erratum I've submitted has been about missing definition of VPLS Attach= ment Circuits as defined in RFC 4665; this definition equally applies both = for VPLS implementing RFC 4762 and for those implementing RFC 4761.=0A= RFC 4762 clarifies that "the attachment circuit (AC) connected to the cust= omer could be a physical Ethernet port, a logical (tagged) Ethernet port= , an ATM PVC carrying Ethernet frames, etc., or even an Ethernet PW". The l= ast case in this list is out of scope of my erratum, but all the rest are. = =0A= =0A= >From my POV the VPLS MIB should support the following minimal set of operat= ions for a VPLS AC:=0A= =0A= - List a given attachment circuits belonging to a given VPLS instance (read= -only)=0A= - Add a new attachment circuit to a given VPLS instance, preferably without= disrupting forwarding via already existing ACs or PWs attached to this VPL= S instance (read-write). This basic operation should be as simple as possib= le=0A= - Remove an attachment circuit from a VPLS instance, preferably without dis= rupting forwarding via already existing ACs or PWs attached to this VPLS in= stance (read-write).=0A= =0A= Coming back to RFC 7257, my reading did not find any explicit mention of at= tachment circuits (easy to check!).=0A= This, by and of itself, looks problematic to me.=0A= =0A= Implicit reference to attachment circuits via the PW MIBs is also problemat= ic because:=0A= - RFC 5061 only mentions attachment circuits in the following context: "Whe= n the PW is managed as an ifIndex, by default it SHOULD NOT be stacked, i.e= ., this ifIndex SHOULD NOT be layered above the respective PSN tunnel ifInd= ex or the attachment circuit ifIndex or the interface carrying the attachme= nt circuit." =0A= - RFC 5062 does not mention attachment circuits at all=0A= - RFC 5603 (Ethernet PW MIB) allows association of one or more pairs {Ether= net Port, VLAN} with a given Ethernet PW instance with the Ethernet port b= eing represented by its ifIndex (pwEnetPortIfIndex). However, it explicitly= states in description of pwEnetPortIfIndex that "This object is used to s= pecify the ifIndex of the Ethernet port associated with this PW for point-t= o-point Ethernet service, or the ifIndex of the virtual interface of the VP= LS instance associated with the PW if the service is VPLS". From my POV th= is means that Ethernet PWs associated with a VPLS instance cannot refer via= this attribute to any Ethernet ports.=0A= =0A= Last, but not least, I'd like to mention Tom's response to my question on t= he mailing list (referenced and quoted in the original Erratum). To the bes= t of my understanding it does not match your response.=0A= =0A= I agree with the Adrian that errata are not intended for fixing major gaps = in already approved and published RFCs.=0A= =0A= I will consider posting a draft (7257bis) fixing this problem, and I would = be glad to work together with you and/or the rest of the authors of the ori= ginal 7257 in this.=0A= =0A= Regards,=0A= Sasha =0A= =0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: Rohit Mediratta (romedira) =0A= Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:55 PM=0A= To: RFC Errata System; Alexander Vainshtein; tnadeau@lucidvision.com; kkous= hik@brocade.com=0A= Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; iesg@ietf.org; l2vpn@ietf.org=0A= Subject: RE: [Errata Rejected] RFC7257 (4059)=0A= =0A= Hi Alexander,=0A= The mapping is done through the PW-MIB. The pwIndex is an index into vpls= PwBindEntry of the VPLS-MIB.=0A= Please refer to Figure 1 of RFC 7257 for the linkage.=0A= =0A= Thanks,=0A= Rohit=0A= =0A= -----Original Message-----=0A= From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]=0A= Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:59 AM=0A= To: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com; tnadeau@lucidvision.com; kkoushik@bro= cade.com; Rohit Mediratta (romedira)=0A= Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; iesg@ietf.org; l2vpn@ietf.org; rfc-editor@rfc-edit= or.org=0A= Subject: [Errata Rejected] RFC7257 (4059)=0A= =0A= The following errata report has been rejected for RFC7257, "Virtual Private= LAN Service (VPLS) Management Information Base".=0A= =0A= --------------------------------------=0A= You may review the report below and at:=0A= http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D7257&eid=3D4059=0A= =0A= --------------------------------------=0A= Status: Rejected=0A= Type: Technical=0A= =0A= Reported by: Alexander ("Sasha") Vainshtein =0A= Date Reported: 2014-07-23=0A= Rejected by: Adrian Farrel (IESG)=0A= =0A= Section: 6=0A= =0A= Original Text=0A= -------------=0A= N/A - this is about some missing MIB objects that should be there=0A= =0A= Corrected Text=0A= --------------=0A= N/A - this is hardly the right place to define missing MIB objects=0A= =0A= Notes=0A= -----=0A= As per RFC 4762 (which defines at least one of the two VPLS types for which= this RFC defines Management Information Base), Virtual Switching Instance = (VSI)(a local representation of a given VPLS instance within a given PE) is= connected to CE devices via Attachment Circuits (AC). Hence I would expect= that Management Information Base for VPLS would provide for some represent= ation of ACs that perform this function for a given VSI.=0A= =0A= However, this RFC does not even mention attachment circuits in any way.=0A= =0A= I have tried to raise this issue with the WG and the authors. One of the au= thors has replied (see http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l2vpn/current/m= sg04539.html) that "ACs are attached to the VPLS instances and are represen= ted as IfMIB entries". However, neither Interfaces MIB nor any of its key e= lements (e.g., ifIndex) are mentioned in this RFC.=0A= --VERIFIER NOTES--=0A= The errata system isn't to be used for recording future work or major defec= ts in RFCs. These need to be taken to the relevant mailing lists (in this c= ase pals@ietf.org) and progressed with Internet-Drafts.=0A= =0A= This concern could probably be addressed through a new MIB module that augm= ents the on in RFC 7257.=0A= =0A= --------------------------------------=0A= RFC7257 (draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mib-15)=0A= --------------------------------------=0A= Title : Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) Management Informa= tion Base=0A= Publication Date : July 2014=0A= Author(s) : T. Nadeau, Ed., A. Kiran Koushik, Ed., R. Mediratta, = Ed.=0A= Category : PROPOSED STANDARD=0A= Source : Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks=0A= Area : Routing=0A= Stream : IETF=0A= Verifying Party : IESG=0A= =0A=