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As we've gone around a couple of times on this issue previously,
I will just note my continued objection to the inclusion of
IP address and DNS based subjects as they are easily spoofed.
I especially dislike that they are NOT RECOMMENDED but MUST
be implemented.  I also note that their semantics require
numerous special cases such as abnormal precedence (subjects
w/ ranges, wildcards, and otherwise matching multiple entities
are less specific than authzId based subjects) and grant/deny
semantics.

As the specification allows extension of subject forms, I recommend
that IP address and DNS based subjects be introduce in a document
extending the LDAP ACM specification.

Kurt



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As I note in my auth-lvls I-D, one must be careful not to
confuse the strength of the authentication mechanism itself
and the strength of a security association.  In particular,
while a strong mechanism resists active attack, if data
integrity is not provided over the duration of the security
association, that association is subject to hijack attack.

I note that the current ACM does not support the strength
of data integrity or data confidential services as access
control factors.  This should be noted as well.

Kurt



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I would like to voice my general opinion that the ACM is
may be overly complex.  I believe the ACM should
be much simpler.

I offer for (re)consideration:

- instead of defining permissions which parallel LDAP
  operations, define permissions based upon the type
  of access being made.  That is, "write" permission
  would be needed by subject to update a particular
  target irregardless of what operation was used to
  to request the update.

- return to one ACI attribute and handle entry/subtree
  semantics via target scope in the value.  This scope
  would be more easily extended to support non-entry
  and non-subtree scopes (such as one-level, children,
  etc.).

- eliminate one of the syntax variants.  I suggest using
  just a ASN.1 described syntax to be ";binary" transferred.
  (a string representation of this could be separately defined
  for presentation to users, if desired).

- remove all mention of ldapACIsubentry from the I-D and
  generalize the out-of-scope statement to "prescriptive
  ACIs and scoping via subenties is beyond the scope of
  this document".

- remove ipAddress and DNS subjects as they require special
  semantics (as well as for the security considerations
  separately noted).

- remove authnLevel.  Don't add integrity/confidentiality
  factors.

- don't require recursive expansion of roles and groups
  (implementation complexity).

Kurt



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I-D editor:

Please replace draft-ietf-ldapext-ldap-taxonomy-04 with the following
-05 draft.

LDAPExt:

Since -04 has expired, this is a refresh to keep this document current.
It is still (to the best of my knowledge) waiting for the SRV document
to progress.

Ryan Moats


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Internet-Draft                                                Ryan Moats
draft-ietf-ldapext-ldap-taxonomy-05                       Lemur Networks
Expires in six months                                     Roland Hedberg
Track: Informational                                           Catalogix
                                                               July 2001


         A Taxonomy of Methods for LDAP Clients Finding Servers
           Filename: draft-ietf-ldapext-ldap-taxonomy-05.txt


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Abstract

   There are several different methods for a LDAP client to find a LDAP
   server. This draft discusses these methods and provides pointers for
   interested parties to learn more about implementing a particular
   method.

1. Introduction

   The Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) [1] can be used to
   build "islands" of servers that are not a priori tied into a single
   Directory Information Tree (DIT.) Here, it is necessary to determine
   how a client can discover LDAP servers. This documents discusses the
   currently available methods and provides pointers for interested
   parties to learn more about implementing a particular method.

   This draft documents only those methods that are currently being
   pursued in the IETF.  Other methods have been considered for this



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   problem and the history of these other methods are presented in the
   Appendix.

2. Methods

2.1 Client Configuration

   The simplest method of enabling a LDAP client to discover LDAP
   servers is for the client administrator to configure the client with
   a list of known LDAP servers (and associated base objects) to send
   queries to.  While this method has the advantage of being correct
   (initially), it adds the requirement that the list of initial servers
   be kept small and constant.  Otherwise, the required client update
   process won't scale.

2.2 Well known DNS aliases

   If the DIT uses a naming scheme similar to that in RFC 2377 [2], then
   it is possible to build the DNS names of potential servers using well
   known DNS aliases, like those documented in RFC 2219 [3].  When a
   different naming scheme is used, it is also possible to build
   potential server names based on the client's fully qualified domain
   name or local (within the organization or country) environment.

   One shortcoming of this method are that it is not exact.  Multiple
   DNS lookups and LDAP protocol operations may be necessary to find the
   proper LDAP server to serve the client requests.  To support client
   roaming, it is necessary that either the RFC 2377 (or similar) naming
   scheme be used or that roaming be implemented through tunnels.

   Because this method uses DNS, it inherits all the security
   considerations of using DNS to discover LDAP servers: see the
   security consideration in [3] for more details.

2.3 Service Location Protocol

   If a client supports the service location protocol [4], it could use
   a SLP query for LDAP servers.  The SLP template that is used to
   describe LDAP servers is presented in [5], and requires that the
   servers announce themselves using SLP and this template.

   Using this method inherits the scaling and security considerations
   for the service location protocol, which are documented further in
   [4].







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2.4 Referrals

   In LDAPv3, servers can return referrals to the client if the server
   has knowledge of where a query might be satisfiable.  Two ways of
   deploying referral information are deploying a LDAP knowledge server
   or exchanging CIP index objects [6] between servers.

   A LDAP knowledge server would hold cross references to possibly
   hundreds of other LDAP  servers, so that a client would only need to
   know about its local LDAP server and the knowledge server.  As an
   optimization, the local LDAP server could also act as a knowledge
   server.

   If CIP index objects are exchanged between LDAP servers, then those
   objects can also carry URL information for providing referrals to
   clients. Here, the client would only need to know about the local
   server. Using CIP index objects inherits the security considerations
   of CIP: see [6, 7, 8] for more details.

   In either of these cases, the local LDAP server could be determined
   using another of the methods discussed.

2.5 Using SRV records

   RFC 2052 [12] defined SRV records for DNS, which bound a host name
   and port to a label in the DNS. This makes it possible for a client
   to look up information about a supported protocol for a domain and
   get back a  weighted list of fully qualified domain names and ports
   for where that protocol is supported.  For more information, see
   [13].

3. Implementation

   The Norwegian Directory Forum plans to start a service based on a
   central LDAP service containing contact information for every
   organization within Norway [10]. If an organization has more
   information about its sub-units, employees or functions that it wants
   to publish it can do so by placing this information in a publicly
   available LDAP server and providing the management of the central
   service with a pointer (URL) to this server.

   The TISDAG project is running a test service based on the TISDAG
   specification [11]. This service gathers indices from connected White
   Pages Service Providers using CIP Tagged Index Objects [9].  The
   rationale for this service is that by supplying the name of a person
   or a function/role to the service it will return pointers to where
   more information can be found about persons/functions with that name.




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   The European cofunded project DESIRE (www.desire.org) is designing a
   system to use a LDAP server that communicates with a referral index
   that in turn, uses CIP Tagged Index Objects [9] and is fed by LDAP
   crawlers.  DANTE plans to set up a European infrastructure of such
   referral index servers.

4. References

   Request For Comments (RFC) and Internet Draft documents are available
   from numerous mirror sites.

[1]         M. Wahl, T. Howes, S. Kille, Lightweight Directory Access
            Protocol (v3), RFC 2251, December 1997.

[2]         A. Grimstad, R. Huber, S. Sataluri, M. Wahl, Naming Plan for
            Internet Directory-Enabled Applications, RFC 2377, September
            1998.

[3]         M. Hamilton, R. Wright, "Use of DNS Aliases for Network Ser-
            vices," RFC 2219 (Also BCP 17), October 1997.

[4]         E. Guttman, C. Perkins, J. Veizades, M. Day, "Service Loca-
            tion Protocol, Version 2," RFC 2608, June 1999.

[5]         J. Wood, R. Tam, "The LDAP Service Type," SVRLOC Template
            http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/svrloc-templates/
            naming-directory_ldap.1.0.en

[6]         J. Allen, M. Mealling, "The Architecture of the Common
            Indexing Protocol (CIP)," RFC 2651, August 1999.

[7]         J. Allen, M. Mealling, "MIME Object Definitions for the Com-
            mon Indexing Protocol (CIP)," RFC 2652, August 1999.

[8]         J. Allen, P. Leach, R. Hedberg, "CIP Transport Protocols,"
            RFC 2653, August 1999.

[9]         R. Hedberg, B. Greenblatt, R. Moats, M. Wahl, "A Tagged
            Index Object for use in the Common Indexing Protocol," RFC
            2654, August 1999.

[10]        R. Hedberg, H. Alverstrand, "Technical Specification, The
            Norwegian Directory of Directories (NDD)," http://
	    www.catalogix.se/doc/draft-hedberg-alvestrad-ndd-01.txt

[11]        R. Hedberg, L. Daigle, "Technical Infrastructure for Swedish
            Directory Access Gateways (TISDAG)," Internet Draft (work in
            progress), February 2000.



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[12]        A. Gulbrandsen, P. Vixie, "A DNS RR for specifying the loca-
            tion of services (DNS SRV)," RFC 2052, October 1996.

[13]        M. Armijo, L. Esibov, P. Leach, "Discovering LDAP Services
            with DNS," Internet Draft (work in progress), July 1999.

5. Author's Addresses

      Ryan Moats                         Roland Hedberg
      Lemur Networks                     Catalogix
      15621 Drexel Circle                Dalsveien 53
      Omaha, NE 68135                    0775 Oslo
      USA                                Norway
      Email: rmoats@lemurnetworks.net    Email: roland@catalogix.se

Appendix A. Historical Methods

A.1 Discovery

   The discovery approach was to use a combination of other methods pre-
   sented in this taxonomy along with storing either the search DN or a
   related URL in the DNS in some way.  Using both TXT or NAPTR records
   in the DNS were considered.  This approach requires an administrator
   to configure the DNS with necessary information.  Further, the idea
   of storing standards based information (either a DN or an URL) in a
   DNS RR has been an extremely controversial one in the IETF.

A.2 DHCP extensions

   Another proposed method was to use DHCP to deliver information about
   LDAP server to a DHCP client. This would require that such informa-
   tion be configured into the DHCP server and that the client use DHCP
   to load host configuration information. While there has been some
   nascent interest in this method, there has been no interest in imple-
   mentation of this approach.
















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 You Like a Merchant
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Applogies for the delayed response...

> I'm working with a directory implementation that needs something
> like DNS SRV records and the locater draft to scale.  But the
> current locater  draft doesn't fit well with this implementation.
> I think it is in our interest to ask that the locator draft
> be extended to include some other well-structured cases
> beyond the current right-most dc= list.  If that's done, then
> our standards process can reference the IETF's work & hopefully
> interoperate.   Alternatively, I can produce a knock-off of the
> current locator that would describe our requirement.  (How
> useful would this be?)

As there are so many different naming conventions, it is
unlikely that one mechanism will satisfy the needs of all.

The current locate mechanism was specifically designed for
those using RFC 2047 naming.  It's simple and doesn't require
significant operational overhead.  (Supporting all dc's
will lead to requiring multiple DNS lookups to locate services
for a DN).

> The DIT in the directory software supporting Grids
> (see http://www.gridforum.org and www.globus.org)
> has a number of conventions in its history.  The original one,
> which still exists in some large deployments, looked like
> this:
>
> (grid dn components), o=Your Name Here, o=Globus, C=us
> that is, a non-conformant X.500 style of naming.

Assuming O=Globus,C=US is properly registered, the services
can be located using <draft-zeilenga-ldap-x500-locate-01.txt>.

> The current implementation supports names like this:
> (grid components), dc=biglab, dc=org, o=grid

Provding location services for unmanaged name spaces
(such as o=grid) is not manageable.

> The planned implementation wants dn's to look like this:
> (grid components), dc=biguni, dc=edu, vo=Internet, o=Grid
> and
> (grid components), vo=MyOrg, o=Grid

> The assumption here is that whoever is querying the directory
> service (whatever directory service) somehow "knows" where the
> server that supports the suffix "vo=MyOrg, o=Grid" is ab initio.
>
> But no such asssumption about "dc=biguni, dc=edu, vo=Internet, o=Grid"
> is made for the benefit of this server.  Ideally the server deals with
> this by a referral.   The nature of the software supporting the grid
> architecture requires a large number of referrals as the mesh grows,
> and maintenance of these records individually won't scale well.
> Thus the utility of DNS SRV.

Problem in using one mechanism is that "dc=biguni,dc=edu" and
"dc=biguni,dc=edu,vo=Internet,o=Grid" may be managed by
separate entities or managed by one entity on different sets
of servers.  I suggest using a private mechanism for locating
such DNs (using different RRs than the standard mechanism)
or for automating knowledge information management in the
superior service.

> It's likely that Grid certificate authorities will issue certificates
> with these kinds of names in the near future.  The security services
> are evolving requirements for directory, and probably also will
> have to interoperate with existing PKI's that may have adopted
> X.500-type naming conventions such as Tim Polk described.

For those using X.500-type naming conventions, location should
be based on that naming, not DCs placed subordinate to the
naming context.  (This is the crux of the problem, folks want
to abuse DC naming to solve a problem which is better solved
by providing a separate mechanism).

> (NB: I would appreciate any comments on this, but please
> separate your comments & reaction on the architecture from those  related
> to the request to extend  the locator draft :^)  Thanks, ==mwh

Sorry, I kind of mixed them up a bit...



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The suggested alternative (using all DCs) is problematic as
it requires there to be DNS SRV records to be established
for all domain components used irregardless of whether they are
used to name the context.  Consider the DNs
1)  dc=foo,dc=com,ou=hostedDomains,dc=isp,dc=com
2)  dc=com,ou=hostedDomains,dc=isp,dc=com
3)  ou=hostedDomains,dc=isp,dc=com
4)  dc=isp,dc=com

which all refer to entries within the dc=isp,dc=com
naming context held by the server ldap.isp.com.  To
locate these four entries using the suggested alternative
mapping, then three SRV RRs would have to be established
at:
  _ldap._tcp.foo.com.isp.com	[1]
  _ldap._tcp.com.isp.com	[2]
  _ldap._tcp.isp.com		[3,4]

I doubt administrators wish to maintain RRs under multiple
domain names when hosting a single naming context on a
single set of servers.

Consider also the case where a user "uid=mary,dc=example,dc=com"
is allowed at will to create entries subordinate to their entry
without significant restriction (note many servers don't support
name form restrictions).  For each of these entries created using
DC RDN, the DNS service needs to be updated otherwise the entry
cannot be located.

The obvious solution is to change the algorithm such that it
walks the DNS tree.  But this would be a bad thing.  Besides
requiring multiple DNS lookups, it would cause a huge load
upon TLD and root name services.  

In examining the PKI issue, I really don't think they want
to insert DC components into the middle of their DNs... I think
what they want is a mechanism for finding services for entries
named using traditional X.500 conventions. (Note that there are
proposals for such location services.)

I believe it best to stay with the current approach.  Adding
a further note to the last paragraph of section 1 stating that
there is work in progress to define a mechanism for discovery
of services using traditional X.500 naming, possibly with a
non-normative references to Skip's and/or my proposal in this
area, might be appropriate.

Kurt



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Thanks for responding & discussing the issues.

"Kurt D. Zeilenga" writes:
> > I'm working with a directory implementation that needs something
> > like DNS SRV records and the locater draft to scale.  But the
> > current locater  draft doesn't fit well with this implementation.
>
> The current locate mechanism was specifically designed for
> those using RFC 2047 naming.  It's simple and doesn't require
> significant operational overhead.  (Supporting all dc's
> will lead to requiring multiple DNS lookups to locate services
> for a DN).

Well of course I'm not asking for "all" or "multiple" dc lookups.
They're altogether in one sequence.  It's just the order
of rdn's is different than the locator draft's. 

> Assuming O=Globus,C=US is properly registered, the services
> can be located using <draft-zeilenga-ldap-x500-locate-01.txt>.

Has anyone (ITU?) actually implemented that? 
(x500.in-addr.arpa)
In the United States at least we would have the additional problem
that no one really owns or manages c=us (unless there
is some recent change), but it's  not clear to me how
that problem maps to that draft SRV  deploymen in 
any event. 

> Problem in using one mechanism is that "dc=biguni,dc=edu" and
> "dc=biguni,dc=edu,vo=Internet,o=Grid" may be managed by
> separate entities or managed by one entity on different sets
> of servers.  I suggest using a private mechanism for locating
> such DNs (using different RRs than the standard mechanism)
> or for automating knowledge information management in the
> superior service.

That's quite a good objection and one that has been raised by
the architects of this grid service.

I took for an example windows 2000 AD, where you have a complex
NOS - type service taking over that name space (dc=biguni, dc=edu).
(Maybe "horning in" is a better way of putting it than taking over.)

Isn't co-existence going to require looking in the DSE and looking
in the DIT anyway to see if you're in the right place?  One part
of the dilemma is, the need to distinguish the grid services from
any other ldap services, so that you can assemble a reasonable
map of what's available in some well-known server or assemble a reasonable
map  of what's available from an uninformed and unconfigured
grid client; and the other part is the overlap that these services will have
with whatever else might be in dc=biguni,dc=edu (your white pages, 
or your AD domain; or, at another level, the management of these
resource directory servers).

I think what may happen, instead of  dealing with DNS SRV or the
above issues, is an altogether different kind of registration mechanism
will be developed.  

If anyone is interested in helping us with this issue let me know.
Thanks, ==mwh



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At 10:21 AM 7/5/2001, Michael Helm wrote:
>Thanks for responding & discussing the issues.
>
>"Kurt D. Zeilenga" writes:
>> > I'm working with a directory implementation that needs something
>> > like DNS SRV records and the locater draft to scale.  But the
>> > current locater  draft doesn't fit well with this implementation.
>>
>> The current locate mechanism was specifically designed for
>> those using RFC 2047 naming.  It's simple and doesn't require
>> significant operational overhead.  (Supporting all dc's
>> will lead to requiring multiple DNS lookups to locate services
>> for a DN).
>
>Well of course I'm not asking for "all" or "multiple" dc lookups.

I thought your approach was, like the PKI suggestion, to use
all the DC RDNs contained in the DN.

>They're altogether in one sequence.  It's just the order
>of rdn's is different than the locator draft's. 

So, your approach is to use the first (when looking right
to left) adjacent set of RDN containing DCs.  This is interesting,
but I'd still be concerned that DNs held in different servers
would have to share the same SRV RRs.

>> Assuming O=Globus,C=US is properly registered, the services
>> can be located using <draft-zeilenga-ldap-x500-locate-01.txt>.
>
>Has anyone (ITU?) actually implemented that? 

No.

>> Problem in using one mechanism is that "dc=biguni,dc=edu" and
>> "dc=biguni,dc=edu,vo=Internet,o=Grid" may be managed by
>> separate entities or managed by one entity on different sets
>> of servers.  I suggest using a private mechanism for locating
>> such DNs (using different RRs than the standard mechanism)
>> or for automating knowledge information management in the
>> superior service.
>
>That's quite a good objection and one that has been raised by
>the architects of this grid service.
>
>I took for an example windows 2000 AD, where you have a complex
>NOS - type service taking over that name space (dc=biguni, dc=edu).
>(Maybe "horning in" is a better way of putting it than taking over.)
>
>Isn't co-existence going to require looking in the DSE and looking
>in the DIT anyway to see if you're in the right place?

I believe co-existence requires the server which SRV points the
client at to hold either the entry or knowledge information to
where the entry is held.



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Finally having my arm twisted to read the latest ACI
draft and seeing these comments shortly after, here
are my thoughts:

> - instead of defining permissions which parallel LDAP
>   operations, define permissions based upon the type
>   of access being made.  That is, "write" permission
>   would be needed by subject to update a particular
>   target irregardless of what operation was used to
>   to request the update.

I don't have a problem with this as I'm beginning to
be concerned that and administrator will be confused
with the ACI.

> - return to one ACI attribute and handle entry/subtree
>   semantics via target scope in the value.  This scope
>   would be more easily extended to support non-entry
>   and non-subtree scopes (such as one-level, children,
>   etc.).

I'll have to think about this some more.

> - eliminate one of the syntax variants.  I suggest using
>   just a ASN.1 described syntax to be ";binary" transferred.
>   (a string representation of this could be separately defined
>   for presentation to users, if desired).

My reading of the document is that only string is MUST and
ASN.1 is MAY.  I disagree that string should only be separately
defined as administrators will have much greater difficulty
understanding the ASN.1 rather than the string representation.

> - remove all mention of ldapACIsubentry from the I-D and
>   generalize the out-of-scope statement to "prescriptive
>   ACIs and scoping via subenties is beyond the scope of
>   this document".

Again I have to think about this some more.

> - remove ipAddress and DNS subjects as they require special
>   semantics (as well as for the security considerations
>   separately noted).

While I'd like to, I believe that there are implementations
that are *already* using them.  This makes such a removal
difficult.

> - remove authnLevel.  Don't add integrity/confidentiality
>   factors.

Having read the draft, either the authnLevel should be
removed or just auth mechanisms listed.  The current proposed
bucketization of authnLevel is a receipe for interoperability
nightmares.

> - don't require recursive expansion of roles and groups
>   (implementation complexity).

No.  do require them as not expanding leads to administrative
complexity.  There will be a *lot* more administrators using
this than developers writing code and I'd rather add the
complexity in the branch that will be less utilized (here
implementation rather than administration)

Ryan



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"Kurt D. Zeilenga" writes:
> I thought your approach was, like the PKI suggestion, to use
> all the DC RDNs contained in the DN.

> >They're altogether in one sequence.  It's just the order
> >of rdn's is different than the locator draft's. 
> 
> So, your approach is to use the first (when looking right
> to left) adjacent set of RDN containing DCs.  This is interesting,

Yes

> but I'd still be concerned that DNs held in different servers
> would have to share the same SRV RRs.

Understood. 

Is there any reason to think this might not be a problem in
other infrastructures anyway (eg the Active Directory - based
W2K domain)?  Suppose a simpler example: one
directory that manages authentication, with basename ou=users,
dc=es,dc=net, & another that manages a phone book, basename
ou=staff,dc=es,dc=net; these two are only loosely coordinated
(or not).
Sure, the clients of these servers could get confused.
They would have to be smart enough to rotor thru the 
DNS SRV RR's they get back (unlikely).

> I believe co-existence requires the server which SRV points the
> client at to hold either the entry or knowledge information to
> where the entry is held.

Is it "requires"?  I'm hoping for that actually (this is my 
personal agenda, not nec. the grid community's), that the
grid directories would blend in to other available directories;
this is because nothing currently requires separating grid directories
from others, & separation (in the long run) places
an operational burden on the wrong people in my opinion.
But I think current trends suggest this "separate management" scenario
is what will happen as a side effect of a separate discovery
mechanism.

In the whitepages/auth dbms example above I would hope
that the two servers would give out knowledge references to
each other; I could use their DNS SRV entries and a little
indexing service to make sure that happened (convergence).
But would everyone want that?



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How are exceptional conditions in expanding
groups/roles/subtrees to be handled?  In particular,
what is the ACM behavior when the groups/roles/subtrees
cannot be fully expanded and the requestor's DN is not
found in the partial set of DNs?

Kurt



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Michael Helm wrote:
> 
> Is there any reason to think this might not be a problem in
> other infrastructures anyway (eg the Active Directory - based
> W2K domain)?  Suppose a simpler example: one
> directory that manages authentication, with basename ou=users,
> dc=es,dc=net, & another that manages a phone book, basename
> ou=staff,dc=es,dc=net; these two are only loosely coordinated
> (or not).
> Sure, the clients of these servers could get confused.
> They would have to be smart enough to rotor thru the
> DNS SRV RR's they get back (unlikely).

No, the LDAP clients will have to follow referrals. Multiple SRV RRs
should always point to servers holding the same dc-style naming
context. If this naming context is partitioned the server has to
direct the client to the right server by sending a referral.

One open question for me is if a client is allowed to walk upwards
the DNS tree to search for SRV RRs.

E.g. when requesting dc=subdomain,dc=es,dc=net a client might try to
lookup 

_ldap._tcp.subdomain.es.net

and if that failed go ahead with looking up 

_ldap._tcp.es.net

although the client is still solely interested in getting
dc=subdomain,dc=es,dc=net.

Ciao, Michael.



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On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 12:58:23PM -0700, Kurt D. Zeilenga wrote:
> How are exceptional conditions in expanding
> groups/roles/subtrees to be handled?  In particular,
> what is the ACM behavior when the groups/roles/subtrees
> cannot be fully expanded and the requestor's DN is not
> found in the partial set of DNs?
> 
> Kurt

Well as an initial (not perfect) suggestion I would opt for
notifying via the log system that the group/role/subtree
has not been fully expanded and that access has been denied
because the DN is not in the partial set.

Ryan 



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agreed, except that noting in the log system that the group/role/subtree
has not been fully expanded **may** give, in some cases, more information
than needed and be a start in compromising security.

regards,
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Moats [mailto:rmoats@lemurnetworks.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:18 PM
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On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 12:58:23PM -0700, Kurt D. Zeilenga wrote:
> How are exceptional conditions in expanding
> groups/roles/subtrees to be handled?  In particular,
> what is the ACM behavior when the groups/roles/subtrees
> cannot be fully expanded and the requestor's DN is not
> found in the partial set of DNs?
>
> Kurt

Well as an initial (not perfect) suggestion I would opt for
notifying via the log system that the group/role/subtree
has not been fully expanded and that access has been denied
because the DN is not in the partial set.

Ryan

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Subject: Re: alternate "dc" naming conventions 
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At 12:55 PM 7/5/2001, Michael Helm wrote:
>"Kurt D. Zeilenga" writes:
>> I thought your approach was, like the PKI suggestion, to use
>> all the DC RDNs contained in the DN.
>
>> >They're altogether in one sequence.  It's just the order
>> >of rdn's is different than the locator draft's. 
>> 
>> So, your approach is to use the first (when looking right
>> to left) adjacent set of RDN containing DCs.  This is interesting,
>
>Yes
>
>> but I'd still be concerned that DNs held in different servers
>> would have to share the same SRV RRs.
>
>Understood. 
>
>Is there any reason to think this might not be a problem in
>other infrastructures anyway (eg the Active Directory - based
>W2K domain)?  Suppose a simpler example: one
>directory that manages authentication, with basename ou=users,
>dc=es,dc=net, & another that manages a phone book, basename
>ou=staff,dc=es,dc=net; these two are only loosely coordinated
>(or not).
>Sure, the clients of these servers could get confused.
>They would have to be smart enough to rotor thru the 
>DNS SRV RR's they get back (unlikely).

No.  In the absence of knowledge information in the servers
holding these two contexts, the client would either
        1) success
        2) noSuchObject

both are definitive answers.

In this setup, which is quite common BTW, the superior service
needs to hold a subordinate reference and the subordinate
service needs to hold a superior reference.  Then the client
gets either
        1) success
        2) referral

and things work.

I guess my concerns are restricted to a subcase of the case
I described.

When there are two DNs:
        ou=foo,dc=example,dc=com
        ou=bar,dc=example,dc=com

which may likely held on two different servers and it is
generally expected (and required for "locate" I-D to work)
that the server holding "dc=example,dc=com" holds knowledge
information regarding its subordinates.  To avoid the referral,
dc should be used for the subordinate contexts (which allows
for independent SRVs).

However, if one has two DNs:
        ou=foo,dc=example,dc=com,o=X
        ou=bar,dc=example,dc=com,o=Y

which are likely held on two different servers, it generally NOT
expected that there be a superior service holding knowledge
information for its subordinates.  It should not be assumed
from these entries related in any particular way to entries
at:
        dc=example,dc=com

or to domain example.com.

>> I believe co-existence requires the server which SRV points the
>> client at to hold either the entry or knowledge information to
>> where the entry is held.
>
>Is it "requires"?

IMO, yes.  Because the knowledge cannot be held in DNS (using
dc-based DNS SRV RRs), it needs be held in LDAP.



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At 01:11 PM 7/5/2001, Michael Ströder wrote:
>One open question for me is if a client is allowed to walk upwards
>the DNS tree to search for SRV RRs.

Walking the tree (up or down) would cause significant load
upon TLDs and root DNS servers and hence MUST be disallowed.

Kurt



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*  Industry and Federal Contractors/Invoice: $645

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I've been looking into the ACM recently and seeing some 
comments on -08 here are my thoughts.

> - instead of defining permissions which parallel LDAP
>   operations, define permissions based upon the type
>   of access being made.  That is, "write" permission
>   would be needed by subject to update a particular
>   target irregardless of what operation was used to
>   to request the update.

There do seem to be a lot of possible permissions now.
Either reducing them as Kurt suggests or perhaps grouping
them so that a client (or admin interface) writer could
simplify the interface would be good.

> - return to one ACI attribute and handle entry/subtree
>   semantics via target scope in the value.  This scope
>   would be more easily extended to support non-entry
>   and non-subtree scopes (such as one-level, children,
>   etc.).

The entry/subtree split is very useful for finding ACIs
that control more than one entry, which is very useful
for caching. Also it is quite a simple scheme, I would like
to keep it as it is.

> - remove all mention of ldapACIsubentry from the I-D and
>   generalize the out-of-scope statement to "prescriptive
>   ACIs and scoping via subenties is beyond the scope of
>   this document".

It took some time to understand what the draft was doing
with ldapACIsubentry, and I still do not see much of
a use for it.

> - remove ipAddress and DNS subjects as they require special
>   semantics (as well as for the security considerations
>   separately noted).

I would quite like to see these optional, but understand that
they are already in use.
 
> - remove authnLevel.  Don't add integrity/confidentiality
>   factors.

I liked the new 'buckets', the use of none, weak, limited and
strong would make an administrator think more about security,
while also allowing an implementation to assign specific levels
to specific mechanisms. authnLevel is security information that
the server has, and if it is used, it should be used all the time
as in -08.
 
> - don't require recursive expansion of roles and groups
>   (implementation complexity).

I can see that this is a problem in implementation, but recursive
expansion is what you would expect if you added one group to
another group.

Mark



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> > - remove authnLevel.  Don't add integrity/confidentiality
> >   factors.
> 
> Having read the draft, either the authnLevel should be
> removed or just auth mechanisms listed.  The current proposed
> bucketization of authnLevel is a receipe for interoperability
> nightmares.
> 

I disagree that this is an interop nightmare. When an admin
is constructing an ACI using an authnLevel, they are interested
in the probability that an authenticated user is who they claim
to be.
Two systems may allow different mechanisms, but the mechanisms
can be mapped onto the different strengths, so I think it would
aid interop.
The strength level 'buckets' also help when a mechanism is depricated
for some reason (eg Cram-MD5 would not have been categorized as
weak a few years ago), or when a new mechanism is added to the server.

Mark



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I have been thinking about simplifying the permissions 
in the ACM and also adding permissions for controls. How
about:

permissions for attributes: read, modify, create, delete
permissions for entries: read, modify, create, delete

and add control OID ass a possible target with a permission
of use

so:

    ACI = rights "#" target "#" generalSubject

    permission = "r" / ; read
                 "m" / ; modify
                 "c" / ; create
                 "d" / ; delete
                 "u"   ; use
    ; permission u can only be used on controls

    target = "[all]" / "[entry]" / (attribute *("," attribute)) /
         "[controls]" / (controlType *("," controlType))

    controlType is defined in RFC2251


Granting these permissions allows:

Entry read - allows access to DN
Entry modify - can change DN
Entry create - can create an entry below this entry
Entry delete - can delete this entry

Attribute read - can read attribute 
Attribute modify - can modify replace attribute values
Attribute delete - can modify delete attribute values
Attribute create - can modify add attribute values

Control use - can use control where aci is active (this
              replaces the g permission in a more
              general way)


This does not give quite the same detailed level of
control as the current scheme, but is much easier
to understand from an administration point of view,
rather that a protocol point of view.

Mark



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On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 11:09:14AM +0100, Mark Davidson wrote:
> 
> > > - remove authnLevel.  Don't add integrity/confidentiality
> > >   factors.
> > 
> > Having read the draft, either the authnLevel should be
> > removed or just auth mechanisms listed.  The current proposed
> > bucketization of authnLevel is a receipe for interoperability
> > nightmares.
> > 
> 
> I disagree that this is an interop nightmare. When an admin
> is constructing an ACI using an authnLevel, they are interested
> in the probability that an authenticated user is who they claim
> to be.

Sure, but that's going to depend on what the directory is used
for.

> Two systems may allow different mechanisms, but the mechanisms
> can be mapped onto the different strengths, so I think it would
> aid interop.

I couldn't disagree more.  The problem is when two different
mechanisms are mapped into the *same* strength level.  An (admittly
skewed) example is that one system has simple/passwd classified as
*strong* because, for its uses, it qualifies.  Now, (through
M&A say) a second system is added administered by a *different* administrator
who decided that strong would only be SASL/<whatever>.  Once replication
starts, strange things are going to happen.

> The strength level 'buckets' also help when a mechanism is depricated
> for some reason (eg Cram-MD5 would not have been categorized as
> weak a few years ago), or when a new mechanism is added to the server.

Listing the mechanisms solves the deprication question as well.

Ryan



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Let's say that you decide to start small,  just to see how it goes,  and we'll assume you and those involved send out only 2,000 programs each.  Let's also assume that the mailing receives a 0.5% response.  Using a good list the response could be much better.  Also,  many people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of only 2,000.  But continuing with this example,  one sends out only 2,000 programs.  With a  0.5% response,  that is only 10 orders for REPORT #1.  Say those 10 people respond by sending out at least  2,000 programs each for a total of 20,000.  Out of those  0.5%, 100 people respond and order REPORT #2.  Those 100 mail out at least 2,000 programs each for a total of 200,000.  The 0.5% response to that is 1,000 orders for REPORT#3.  Those 1,000 send out at least 2,000 programs each for a total of 2,000,000.  The response to that is 10,000 orders for REPORT #4.  Those 10,000 mail out 2,000 programs each, and with a .05% response is 100,000 order!
s for REPORT # 5. 
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REMEMBER, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,990 OUT OF THE 2,000 PEOPLE YOU EMAIL WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM!  DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE,  OR HALF SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF 2,000.
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1.  Advertising on the 'NET is very,  very inexpensive,  and there are HUNDREDS of FREE places to advertise.  Let's say you decide to start small,  just to see how well it works.  Assume your goal is to get only 10 people to participate on your first level.  (Placing a lot of  FREE ads on the Internet will EASILY get a larger response.)  Also assume that everyone else in YOUR ORGANIZATION gets only  10 Downline members.

Follow this example to achieve the STAGGERING results below:
1st Level - your 10 members with $5 ..........$50
2nd Level - 10 members from those 10 ( $5 x 100)..........$500
3rd Level -  10 members from those 100  ($5  x 1,000)  $5,000
4th  level  - 10 members from those 1,000  ($5 x 10k)  $50,000
5th  level  - 10 members from those 10,000 ($5 x 100k)$500,000
THIS TOTALS $555,550

Remember, this assumes that the people who participate only recruit only 10 people each.  Think for a moment what would happen if they got 20 people to participate!, Most people get 100's of participants.

THINK ABOUT IT!



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> 
> > Two systems may allow different mechanisms, but the mechanisms
> > can be mapped onto the different strengths, so I think it would
> > aid interop.
> 
> I couldn't disagree more.  The problem is when two different
> mechanisms are mapped into the *same* strength level.  An (admittly
> skewed) example is that one system has simple/passwd classified as
> *strong* because, for its uses, it qualifies.  Now, (through
> M&A say) a second system is added administered by a *different* administrator
> who decided that strong would only be SASL/<whatever>.  Once replication
> starts, strange things are going to happen.

Strength depends on environment. Suppose you have a system where simple 
passwords can be regarded as strong because there is some extra physical
security (guards with big dogs etc) that means that simple passwords
really 
are strong. Now suppose they want to set up replication with a server in
a 
university where the only mechanism that is likely to be strong is
Kerberos etc.
If you use mechanisms to define authnLevel then entries protected by
'simple/passwd' on the system with the guards are now wide open at the
university. Also, entries protected by Kerberos at the university
are inaccessible by users of the system with the guards because they
don't have (or need) kerberos. However, if levels are used then those
users on both system who have authenticated with a 'Strong' (on their
system) mechanism will have access.

If however both systems are in the same environment then it is a
procedural
operation for both admins to agree on authnLevel strengths and what type
of threats they are trying to counter with their ACIs.

> > The strength level 'buckets' also help when a mechanism is deprecated
> > for some reason (eg Cram-MD5 would not have been categorized as
> > weak a few years ago), or when a new mechanism is added to the server.
> 
> Listing the mechanisms solves the deprecation question as well.

But is horrible when you add a mechanism and conveys little meaning
of what security admin meant. Also if a mechanism is unavailable on
one of the servers, but an equally strong (or stronger) method is, 
then everything still works using the level method.

Mark



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We prefer authentication method to authentication strength. This allows different organisations to make their own choice about what is acceptable for a particular application.

Why force authentication methods to have strengths relative to each other? For example, I may wish to say that voice authentication is ok for application A, fingerprint for application B,  voice and fingerprint for application C and voice or fingerprint for application D.

This is a general security question not one that is just applicable to ldap. Experience has shown us that giving each authentication method a strength is unnecessarily constraining. It is better to leave an organisation to make the decision about which methods are acceptable.

I am not convinced by the deprecated argument. Again, I suggest individual organisations should be left to make a decision about whether a given method is still acceptable for a given application.

Dominic.




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> > - remove authnLevel.  Don't add integrity/confidentiality
> >   factors.
>
> Having read the draft, either the authnLevel should be
> removed or just auth mechanisms listed.  The current proposed
> bucketization of authnLevel is a receipe for interoperability
> nightmares.
>

I disagree that this is an interop nightmare. When an admin
is constructing an ACI using an authnLevel, they are interested
in the probability that an authenticated user is who they claim
to be.
Two systems may allow different mechanisms, but the mechanisms
can be mapped onto the different strengths, so I think it would
aid interop.
The strength level 'buckets' also help when a mechanism is depricated
for some reason (eg Cram-MD5 would not have been categorized as
weak a few years ago), or when a new mechanism is added to the server.

Mark





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My suggestion the ACM not support authentication level nor mechanism.
We've going through this discussion multiple times now and its seems
that we're not going to reach consensus as to which to support in
the ACM.

        Kurt

At 08:02 AM 7/6/2001, Steinitz, Dominic J wrote:
>We prefer authentication method to authentication strength. This allows different organisations to make their own choice about what is acceptable for a particular application.

What does SIMPLE mean plain simple bind or simple bind over TLS?
What does SASL mean?
What does EXTERNAL mean?
What does DIGEST-MD5 mean?  (auth only?  auth-int? auth-conf?)
What does GSSAPI mean?  w/ pre-auth?  w/o pre-auth?

>Why force authentication methods to have strengths relative to each other? 

We're categorizing uses of methods (not that method strength
depends on use) based upon what attacks they are prone to.

>This is a general security question not one that is just applicable to ldap.

But answers may not be.

>Experience has shown us that giving each authentication method a strength is unnecessarily constraining.

Experience has shown us that users (or administrators) do not
understand the complexity of security.

>It is better to leave an organisation to make the decision about which methods are acceptable.

Users do not have a clue of what methods they are using let alone
which methods they should be using (and most admins don't either).

Kurt



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On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 03:19:05PM +0100, Mark Davidson wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > Two systems may allow different mechanisms, but the mechanisms
> > > can be mapped onto the different strengths, so I think it would
> > > aid interop.
> > 
> > I couldn't disagree more.  The problem is when two different
> > mechanisms are mapped into the *same* strength level.  An (admittly
> > skewed) example is that one system has simple/passwd classified as
> > *strong* because, for its uses, it qualifies.  Now, (through
> > M&A say) a second system is added administered by a *different* administrator
> > who decided that strong would only be SASL/<whatever>.  Once replication
> > starts, strange things are going to happen.
> 
> Strength depends on environment. Suppose you have a system where simple 
> passwords can be regarded as strong because there is some extra physical
> security (guards with big dogs etc) that means that simple passwords
> really are strong.

It could also be considered strong because the applications using it do
not require greater security.  That was may point.

> Now suppose they want to set up replication with a server in
> a university where the only mechanism that is likely to be strong is
> Kerberos etc.
> If you use mechanisms to define authnLevel then entries protected by
> 'simple/passwd' on the system with the guards are now wide open at the
> university. 

My point is that the converse is true.  If replication is being
done in both directions, then entries from the university's system
that are protected by "strong" (i.e. Kerberos) auth will be accessible
by folks using simple/passwd auth on the initial system.

> Also, entries protected by Kerberos at the university
> are inaccessible by users of the system with the guards because they
> don't have (or need) kerberos. However, if levels are used then those
> users on both system who have authenticated with a 'Strong' (on their
> system) mechanism will have access.

My point above is that (IMHO) that is a Bad Thing.  If I protect
entries with a "strong" acl and then by replicating to a server where
simple/passwd is a "strong" authMeth have a situation where the entry
gets changed on the secondary server, when the changes get replicated
back to my server I see a security hole; plain and simple.

> 
> If however both systems are in the same environment then it is a
> procedural operation for both admins to agree on authnLevel strengths
> and what type of threats they are trying to counter with their ACIs.

Sure, but the standard has to work when the systems *aren't* in the
same envrionment.

> > > The strength level 'buckets' also help when a mechanism is deprecated
> > > for some reason (eg Cram-MD5 would not have been categorized as
> > > weak a few years ago), or when a new mechanism is added to the server.
> > 
> > Listing the mechanisms solves the deprecation question as well.
> 
> But is horrible when you add a mechanism and conveys little meaning
> of what security admin meant. Also if a mechanism is unavailable on
> one of the servers, but an equally strong (or stronger) method is, 
> then everything still works using the level method

I don't see it as being horrible, as I see adding/removing mechanisms
not being a common occurance. As to your second thought, I actually *like*
blocking because a mecanism isn't available, because it makes sense.
If you want the "new" strong/stronger method to be usable, you add it
to the ACI.  IMHO, that's easier than trying to map between authLevels.

Ryan



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Mark,

I think you will need at least a Filter Matching permission for attributes
as well.  A classical way to break security in a directory is to search for
entries with userPassword=*joan* (or whatever...).

Should there be a permission for Compare operations as well?  Denying
compare on operational information could be used to keep curious users from
poking at the ACIs themselves.

Cheers,                    ....Erik.

Erik Skovgaard
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I have been thinking about simplifying the permissions 
in the ACM and also adding permissions for controls. How
about:

permissions for attributes: read, modify, create, delete
permissions for entries: read, modify, create, delete

and add control OID ass a possible target with a permission
of use

so:

    ACI = rights "#" target "#" generalSubject

    permission = "r" / ; read
                 "m" / ; modify
                 "c" / ; create
                 "d" / ; delete
                 "u"   ; use
    ; permission u can only be used on controls

    target = "[all]" / "[entry]" / (attribute *("," attribute)) /
         "[controls]" / (controlType *("," controlType))

    controlType is defined in RFC2251


Granting these permissions allows:

Entry read - allows access to DN
Entry modify - can change DN
Entry create - can create an entry below this entry
Entry delete - can delete this entry

Attribute read - can read attribute 
Attribute modify - can modify replace attribute values
Attribute delete - can modify delete attribute values
Attribute create - can modify add attribute values

Control use - can use control where aci is active (this
              replaces the g permission in a more
              general way)


This does not give quite the same detailed level of
control as the current scheme, but is much easier
to understand from an administration point of view,
rather that a protocol point of view.

Mark


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> I think you will need at least a Filter Matching permission for attributes
> as well.  A classical way to break security in a directory is to search for
> entries with userPassword=*joan* (or whatever...).
> 
> Should there be a permission for Compare operations as well?  Denying
> compare on operational information could be used to keep curious users from
> poking at the ACIs themselves.

You could cover all this with the attribute level read. I kow this is
not as
fine grained as the permissions in the current draft, but it is alot
less
complex to admin. So in the cases you have mentioned:

deny:r#OID.userPassword,OID.subtreeACI,OID.entryACI#authnLevel:none:public:

Mark



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Mark,

Would your example prevent me from using the Compare operation?

Cheers,                ....Erik.

Erik Skovgaard
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> I think you will need at least a Filter Matching permission for attributes
> as well.  A classical way to break security in a directory is to search
for
> entries with userPassword=*joan* (or whatever...).
> 
> Should there be a permission for Compare operations as well?  Denying
> compare on operational information could be used to keep curious users
from
> poking at the ACIs themselves.

You could cover all this with the attribute level read. I kow this is
not as
fine grained as the permissions in the current draft, but it is alot
less
complex to admin. So in the cases you have mentioned:

deny:r#OID.userPassword,OID.subtreeACI,OID.entryACI#authnLevel:none:public:

Mark


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 Send our recommended letter to companies and individuals<BR>
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<BR>
When you receive the assets you keep 50% and send 50% to<BR>
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<BR>
Once the Judgment is fully paid you send a certificate of </FONT></FONT>
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> Would your example prevent me from using the Compare operation?
> 

Yes, as read access would cover all examination of the attribute. so
without read attribute you could not get the value, compare the value
or use the value in a filter etc.

Mark



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Mark (and others who have commented on "too many permissions"),

Let's distinguish between compressing the list of permissions by
overloading permission names (eg. why not use "read" as an
attribute-level permission AND an entry-level permission) and dropping
permission names which means dropping functionality from the model (eg.
dropping "t" means you don't want to support the returnDN concept
anymore).

Here's one way to compress but not lose functionality, by reusing
permission names and relying on whether the aci is an entry-level or
attribute-level aci to make the difference--I've commented out the old
permission with a ";" along with an explanation of what replaces it:

"
Permissions (some of which apply to both entries and attribute):

   r   Read            Read attribute values or Entries
   w   Write           Modify-add values or rename an entry's DN.
; replaced with "d"   o   Obliterate      Modify-delete values
   s   Search          Search entries with specified
                          attributes or browse the specified entry
   p   searchPresence  Presence only filters
   c   Compare         Compare attributes
; replaced with "a"   m   Make            Make attributes on a new entry
below
                          this entry
   a    Add        Add an entry or attribute below this entry
   d    Delete     Delete this entry or attribute
   e    Export     Export entry & subordinates to new
                      location
   i    Import     Import entry & subordinates below this
                      entry from some location
; replaced with "w"   n    RenameDN   Rename an entry's DN
; replaced with "s"   b    BrowseDN   Browse an entry's DN
; replaced with "r"   v    ViewEntry  A read level entry permission
   t    ReturnDN   Allows DN of entry to be disclosed in
                      an operation result
   u    Unveil     This is the discloseOnError permission
   g    GetEffectiveRights  This is get effective rights
                                permission
"

This reduces the permissions set from 17 to 12.  But does that really
aid understanding ? The point being that although the admin now has a
smaller permission set that hasn't changed the fact that "w" on an
attribute means something different to "w" on an entry.  Also, by not
overloading permissions we could, without confusion, mix attribute-level
and entry-level permissions in the same aci (note though that currently
an aci either contains entry-level or attribute-level permissions but
not both).

So, to dicsuss dropping functionality.  First, Mark, I do not think it's
a good idea to drop filter/search and compare permissions--they just
seem too fundamental.  I do however see two low hanging candidates to
drop, namely "t" and "p".  "t" is concerned with supporting aliasing in
the ACM, "p" is a refinement on the search filter permission.  I would
encourage those who think we have too many permissions to at first
consider dropping these guys.  The reason I think returnDN is a good
candidate is that hardly anyone approves of aliasing (the iPlanet LDAP
server doesn't support it and anyone that does seems to regret
it--performance/complexity issues).  The reason I think "p" might be a
good candidate is that it's really a refinement of "s" and could be
viewed as just too much functionality.  Dropping "t" and "p" and using
the above "compression" gets us down to 10 permissions.

After that I think it gets more difficult to find easy stuff to throw
out: people have argued for the inclusion of "u" (disclose on error) and
the getEffectiveRights control is key to managing deployments of this
ACM so I think "g" (that says who can use this control)  is also
important--Mark your controlType/"use" idea could work for that but I
think that deserves a seperate thread.  The exotic looking "e" and "i"
are concerned with the complex moddn operation and I think they make the
required permissions for moddn easier to understand (see required perms
for moddn in section 5).  We enforce an entry-add time permission at the
attribute-level too ("m"), again people argued for this, their point
being that just relying on an entry-level "a" and allowing _any_
attribute to be added based on that is just too coarse.  Another point
here is that, for deployments where any of this extra functionality is
not required, then the management tool for acis (and let's hope there is
one!) can hide these extra permissions by not exposing them and
granting/not_granting them by default; the point being that in that the
tool can help hide the "too many permissions" complexity.

To summarize: the way to approach the "too many permissions" problem is
to first agree on the functionality we are willing to drop, if any. 
After that whether we overload permissions or not is probably not
critical.

Rob.

Mark Davidson wrote:
> 
> I have been thinking about simplifying the permissions
> in the ACM and also adding permissions for controls. How
> about:
> 
> permissions for attributes: read, modify, create, delete
> permissions for entries: read, modify, create, delete
> 
> and add control OID ass a possible target with a permission
> of use
> 
> so:
> 
>     ACI = rights "#" target "#" generalSubject
> 
>     permission = "r" / ; read
>                  "m" / ; modify
>                  "c" / ; create
>                  "d" / ; delete
>                  "u"   ; use
>     ; permission u can only be used on controls
> 
>     target = "[all]" / "[entry]" / (attribute *("," attribute)) /
>          "[controls]" / (controlType *("," controlType))
> 
>     controlType is defined in RFC2251
> 
> Granting these permissions allows:
> 
> Entry read - allows access to DN
> Entry modify - can change DN
> Entry create - can create an entry below this entry
> Entry delete - can delete this entry
> 
> Attribute read - can read attribute
> Attribute modify - can modify replace attribute values
> Attribute delete - can modify delete attribute values
> Attribute create - can modify add attribute values
> 
> Control use - can use control where aci is active (this
>               replaces the g permission in a more
>               general way)
> 
> This does not give quite the same detailed level of
> control as the current scheme, but is much easier
> to understand from an administration point of view,
> rather that a protocol point of view.
> 
> Mark



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Kurt,

I think what's needed here is for the draft to specify that, if the
evaluation of any part of the subject fails, then the subject part of
that aci does not apply.  So we can change the intro to 4.3.2.4 to
something like:

"4.3.2.4  Applicability Rules for Subjects

Call the subject portion of the ACI in question aciSubject.  Then to
determine if aciSubject applies to requestorSubject we apply the
following rules.  In the case where the server fails to evaluate a
rule and so fails to fully confirm that aciSubject applies, then
aciSubject does not apply."

Rob.

John Strassner wrote:
> 
> agreed, except that noting in the log system that the group/role/subtree
> has not been fully expanded **may** give, in some cases, more information
> than needed and be a start in compromising security.
> 
> regards,
> John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan Moats [mailto:rmoats@lemurnetworks.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:18 PM
> To: Kurt D. Zeilenga
> Cc: ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> Subject: Re: expansion of groups/roles/subtree subjects in LDAP ACM
> 
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 12:58:23PM -0700, Kurt D. Zeilenga wrote:
> > How are exceptional conditions in expanding
> > groups/roles/subtrees to be handled?  In particular,
> > what is the ACM behavior when the groups/roles/subtrees
> > cannot be fully expanded and the requestor's DN is not
> > found in the partial set of DNs?
> >
> > Kurt
> 
> Well as an initial (not perfect) suggestion I would opt for
> notifying via the log system that the group/role/subtree
> has not been fully expanded and that access has been denied
> because the DN is not in the partial set.
> 
> Ryan



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robert byrne wrote:

> To summarize: the way to approach the "too many permissions" problem is
> to first agree on the functionality we are willing to drop, if any.
> After that whether we overload permissions or not is probably not
> critical.

I think that there's something else to consider here.   Some poor
administrator has got to configure this server somehow.   With 17 different
permissions (and probably even twelve) there's ample scope for screwing up
and letting information leak out that they didn't intend to leak out.

For example (and this is just an example, it's not even vaguely formal and
probably not correct), suppose that an admin doesn't want to let people
read an attribute called "std" or even know that it is present.  Under a
really simple scheme, this means just disabling read access.  Under a more
complex scheme, make sure you can't read it or test for presence.  All well
and good.  Except that "std" only has a small set of possible values so you
can compare it against those.

Another example, you don't want people to test for the presence of an
attribute.  Do you just disable that.  However, there's nothing to stop
someone downloading the entire directory and using "grep" on it.  Or
searching for "(|(std=a*)...(std=z*))" (or a filter that tests for starting
with one of the 65536 unicode letters).

The point here is not that fine-grained access control is a good thing or a
bad thing.  It is rather a question of balancing the likelihood of an
administrator inadvertantly granting more access than they intended versus
not having as much control as they would like.

Personally, I would tend towards simplicity.   Is it really worth
differentiating between "presence" and "read" is probably a bit subtle and
definitely a minefield.   Is it worth having "compare"?  It might be.  At
one time, this was a really good way of storing passwords -- you could test
them but you couldn't read them (these days I'm not so sure: without extra
checks and complexity it just supports dictionary attacks and you're better
off putting that defense into the authentication mechanisms).

Finally, just let me point a little feature of VMS privileges which are
extraordinary in their richness and variety and usefullness.  Two of the 32
obviously let you acquire any privilege.  Four out of the 32 do likewise,
but very few VMS administrators knew what they were ...

In conclusion, then, don't forget that while you're deeply embroiled in the
subtle nuances of different sorts of access that (a) administrators are
unlikely to have that degree of skill and (b) hackers will find and exploit
any unlikely holes.  Keep It Simple.

jch

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At 07:25 AM 7/9/2001, robert byrne wrote:

>Kurt,
>
>I think what's needed here is for the draft to specify that, if the
>evaluation of any part of the subject fails, then the subject part of
>that aci does not apply.  So we can change the intro to 4.3.2.4 to
>something like:
>
>"4.3.2.4  Applicability Rules for Subjects
>
>Call the subject portion of the ACI in question aciSubject.  Then to
>determine if aciSubject applies to requestorSubject we apply the
>following rules.  In the case where the server fails to evaluate a
>rule and so fails to fully confirm that aciSubject applies, then
>aciSubject does not apply."

I believe that rules for expansion of subjects should be
consistent with X.501(93), 16.4.2.5 "Determining group membership".
In particular,
  a) A DSA is not required to perform a remote operation to determine whether the
  requestor belongs to a particular group for the purposes of Basic Access Control.
  If membership in the group cannot be evaluated, the DSA shall assume that the
  requestor does not belong to the group if the ACI item grants the permission sought,
  and does belong to the group if it denies the permission sought.

 NOTE 1 – Access control administrators must beware of basing access controls on membership
 of non-locally available groups or groups which are available only through replication (and which
 may, therefore, be out of date).
 NOTE 2 – For performance reasons it is usually impractical to retrieve group membership from
 remote DSAs as part of the evaluation of access controls. However, in certain circumstances it
 may be practical, and a DSA is permitted, for example, to perform remote operations to obtain
 or refresh a local copy of a group entry or use the Compare operation to check membership
 prior to applying this clause.

I believe (b) makes sense as well, but that's another thread.



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> I think what's needed here is for the draft to specify that, if the
> evaluation of any part of the subject fails, then the subject part of
> that aci does not apply.  So we can change the intro to 4.3.2.4 to
> something like:
> 

I think that when evaluation of any part of the subject fails the
server must act in a fail safe way. This means that access must be
denied.

So 4.3.2.4 intro should read:

"4.3.2.4  Applicability Rules for Subjects

Call the subject portion of the ACI in question aciSubject. In the case 
where the server fails to evaluate a rule and so fails to fully confirm
that aciSubject applies, then access is denied. Then to determine if 
aciSubject applies to requestorSubject we apply the following rules:"

Mark



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Rob,

I think we need to differentiate between grant and deny acis when evaluation
fails--we should always fail toward denying the access.  On failure, a grant
aci should assume the aciSubject does not apply while a deny aci should
assume that it does apply.

--the walrus

> -----Original Message-----
> From: robert byrne [mailto:robert.byrne@Sun.COM]
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:25 AM
> To: Kurt D. Zeilenga
> Cc: john.strassner@intelliden.com; Ryan Moats; 
> ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> Subject: Re: expansion of groups/roles/subtree subjects in LDAP ACM
> 
> 
> 
> Kurt,
> 
> I think what's needed here is for the draft to specify that, if the
> evaluation of any part of the subject fails, then the subject part of
> that aci does not apply.  So we can change the intro to 4.3.2.4 to
> something like:
> 
> "4.3.2.4  Applicability Rules for Subjects
> 
> Call the subject portion of the ACI in question aciSubject.  Then to
> determine if aciSubject applies to requestorSubject we apply the
> following rules.  In the case where the server fails to evaluate a
> rule and so fails to fully confirm that aciSubject applies, then
> aciSubject does not apply."
> 
> Rob.
> 
> John Strassner wrote:
> > 
> > agreed, except that noting in the log system that the 
> group/role/subtree
> > has not been fully expanded **may** give, in some cases, 
> more information
> > than needed and be a start in compromising security.
> > 
> > regards,
> > John
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ryan Moats [mailto:rmoats@lemurnetworks.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:18 PM
> > To: Kurt D. Zeilenga
> > Cc: ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> > Subject: Re: expansion of groups/roles/subtree subjects in LDAP ACM
> > 
> > On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 12:58:23PM -0700, Kurt D. Zeilenga wrote:
> > > How are exceptional conditions in expanding
> > > groups/roles/subtrees to be handled?  In particular,
> > > what is the ACM behavior when the groups/roles/subtrees
> > > cannot be fully expanded and the requestor's DN is not
> > > found in the partial set of DNs?
> > >
> > > Kurt
> > 
> > Well as an initial (not perfect) suggestion I would opt for
> > notifying via the log system that the group/role/subtree
> > has not been fully expanded and that access has been denied
> > because the DN is not in the partial set.
> > 
> > Ryan
> 



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Brian Jarvis would like to recall the message, "expansion of
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Mark,

That would be a problem.  A lot of us still use the userPassword for
authentication.  It must be possible to protect the password (including
performing filter matching) yet be able to use the compare operation on the
attribute.

Cheers,                ....Erik.

Erik Skovgaard
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> Would your example prevent me from using the Compare operation?
> 

Yes, as read access would cover all examination of the attribute. so
without read attribute you could not get the value, compare the value
or use the value in a filter etc.

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Greetings,

Internet Drafts publisher: please publish this as an individual 
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LDAP-ext and IETF-else members: I welcome your comments on this individual 
submission.



Regards,
Tim Hahn

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                                                                       =20
   Internet Draft                                               T. Hahn=20
   Document: draft-hahn-schemapart-00.txt                           IBM=20
   Expires: January 2002                                      July 2001=20
   =20
   =20
       Approach for identifying different schemas in effect across a=20
                           Directory Name-space=20
   =20
   =20
1.  Status of this Memo=20
   =20
   This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance=20
   with all provisions of Section 10 of RFC2026.=20
   =20
   Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering=20
   Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups.  Note that     =20
   other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet-
   Drafts.=20
   =20
   Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six=20
   months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents=20
   at any time.  It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as=20
   reference material or to cite them other than as "work in progress."=20
   =20
   The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at=20
   =20
        http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt=20
   =20
   The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at=20
   =20
        http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html=20
   =20
2.  Abstract=20
   =20
   IETF RFC 2251 [RFC2251] provides a mechanism for indicating, given=20
   any particular entry in the directory tree, what entry in the=20
   directory tree holds the directory schema information for that=20
   particular entry.  RFC 2251 does not, however, provide guidance on=20
   how different directory servers, each of which might have their own=20
   active directory schema, should =93publicize=94 this directory schema=20
   such that the different active schemas are distinct from one another=20
   when viewing the entire directory name-space.  This document=20
   describes a way to name sub-schema sub-entry entries such that=20
   different active schemas can be distinguished from one another=20
   across the entire directory name-space.=20
    =20
   Hahn                  Expires January 2002                 [Page 1] =0C
                     Identifying multiple schemas                     =20
=20
=20
3.  Table of Contents=20
   =20
   1. Status of this Memo............................................1=20
   2. Abstract.......................................................1=20
   3. Table of Contents..............................................2=20
   4. Conventions used in this document..............................3=20
   5. Review of RFC 2251 and RFC 2252 definition of subschemasubentry3=20
   6. Contents of subschemasubentry..................................3=20
   7. Method of naming subschemasubentry entries as distinct from one=20
   another............................................................4=20
   7.1.  Potential problems with ambiguous subschemasubentry values..4=20
   7.2.  Subschema sub-entry is really an administrative element.....5=20
   7.3.  Subschema sub-entry entries as ldapSubEntry entries.........6=20
   8. Summary........................................................8=20
   9. Security Considerations........................................8=20
   10.  References...................................................9=20
   11.  Copyright Notice.............................................9=20
   12.  Author's Address.............................................9=20
   =20
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    =20
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   =20
4.  Conventions used in this document=20
   =20
   In this document, directory entries will be described using LDAP=20
   Data Interchange Format (LDIF).  See RFC 2849 [RFC2849] for details=20
   on LDIF.=20
   =20
   The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",=20
   "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED",  "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in=20
   this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC-2119 [1].=20
   =20
5.  Review of RFC 2251 and RFC 2252 definition of subschemasubentry=20
   =20
   In RFC 2251 and RFC 2252, an operational attribute was defined=20
   called subschemasubentry.  This attribute can be requested from any=20
   entry in the directory tree.  When requested, the attribute=92s value=20
   will be a distinguished name which =93points to=94 another entry in the =

   name-space.  The entry =93pointed to=94 contains the definition of the=20
   directory schema which controls that entry.=20
   =20
   While this allows the schema that controls an entry to be found=20
   given any entry in the name-space, it does not give guidance on how=20
   servers that manage multiple =93active schemas=94 or multiple servers=20
   would make their active schemas appear =93unique=94 from other schemas=20
   that are active in the name-space.=20
   =20
   Based on implementation experience, the distinguished names that=20
   have been chosen for the subschemasubentry have ranged from fixed=20
   names such as =93cn=3Dschema=94 to names relative to the namingContexts =

   attribute values in the root DSE entry such as =93cn=3Dschema, o=3DYour =

   Company, c=3DUS=94.  It is clear that to promote interoperability and=20
   organization of the directory name-space (within single servers and=20
   across multiple server environments), more specification of how to=20
   name the subschema sub-entry entries is required.  If multiple=20
   servers name their schema =93cn=3Dschema=94 and each subschema sub-entry=
=20
   is different from one another, applications which access data in=20
   each of those servers will have difficulty determining which=20
   =93cn=3Dschema=94 entry is in effect for the name-space.  This problem i=
s=20
   further confounded with the use of LDAP referrals where the LDAP=20
   server on which a request originates may not be the server on which=20
   the request is processed.=20
   =20
   This document will provide a means of naming subschema sub-entry=20
   entries such that each =93active schema=94 has a unique name in the=20
   directory name-space.=20
   =20
6.  Contents of subschemasubentry=20
   =20
   RFC 2251 provides a description of the attributes which should be=20
   contained in the subschemasubentry entry.  These attributes are=20
   =93attributetypes=94, =93objectclasses=94, =93ldapsyntaxes=94, and=20
   =93matchingrules=94.  Implementation experience has shown that=20
   implementers have added additional attributes including attributes=20
   that further define attribute type definitions as well as attributes=20
    =20
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   to describe naming formats and structure rules.  The definition of=20
   the subschema sub-entry entry in RFC 2251 has its roots in the X.500=20
   directory model and its definition of a sub-entry which defines the=20
   schema for an area of the directory name-space.=20
   =20
   A few implementations have named the subschema sub-entry entries=20
   based on the tree of information that is controlled by that schema. =20
   In these implementations, the subschema sub-entry is also defined as=20
   an object class that is derived from the X.500 =93subentry=94 object=20
   class.  The =93subentry=94 object class has since been modeled in LDAP=20
   schema as a =93ldapSubEntry=94 object class [LDAPSUBENTRY].=20
   =20
   By using the =93ldapSubEntry=94 construct coupled with the notion that=20
   different portions of the directory name-space may be controlled by=20
   different schemas, we can define a mechanism for uniquely naming=20
   subschema sub-entry entries across single and multiple server=20
   environments.=20
   =20
7.  Method of naming subschemasubentry entries as distinct from one=20
    another=20
   =20
  7.1. Potential problems with ambiguous subschemasubentry values=20
   =20
   RFC 2252 defines the =93subschemasubentry=94 attribute value.  It does=20
   not require all entries in the directory to return the same value=20
   for this attribute.  Indeed, an implementation could choose to=20
   define a separate value for every entry in the directory name-space=20
   it is controlling and still conform to the requirements for the=20
   subschemasubentry attribute from RFC 2251.=20
   =20
   Most implementations today take a =93single server=94 view of the=20
   directory name-space.  With this view, the choice of naming the=20
   =93subschemasubentry=94 entry as =93cn=3Dschema=94 does not appear to ca=
use=20
   any difficulty.  After all, if there is only one server serving the=20
   directory, there need not be more than one schema.  When multiple=20
   servers are serving the overall directory name-space (for example,=20
   when multiple servers are tied together using LDAP referrals=20
   [LDAPREFERRALS], then different servers might contain different=20
   active schemas.  At this point, if all servers name their schema as=20
   =93cn=3Dschema=94, problems can arise as applications access the subsche=
ma=20
   sub-entry.  The same distinguished name refers to different entries,=20
   depending upon the server that is contacted.  If a server is=20
   contacted through following a referral, a subsequent request to=20
   retrieve the subschema sub-entry may not follow the referral,=20
   causing the wrong subschema sub-entry entry to be returned to the=20
   application.=20
   =20
   As an example, consider two LDAP servers, server A and server B.  If=20
   server A has namingContexts in the root DSE entry of:=20
   =20
   namingContexts: ou=3DMarketing, o=3DYour Company=20
   namingContexts: ou=3DResearch, o=3DYour Company=20
   =20
   While server B has namingContexts of:=20
    =20
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   =20
   namingContexts: ou=3DDept 14, ou=3DMarketing, o=3DYour Company=20
   =20
   Further, assume that server A holds a referral to server B such that=20
   applications which request information below =93ou=3DDept 14,=20
   ou=3DMarketing, o=3DYour Company=94 will be re-routed to server B for=20
   processing.=20
   =20
   Also assume that both server A and server B use the same=20
   distinguished name, =93cn=3Dschema=94 for the subschemasubentry attribut=
e=20
   value.=20
   =20
   If an application requests the =93subschemasubentry=94 attribute from=20
   =93ou=3DDept 14, ou=3DMarketing, o=3DYour Company=94 from server A, refe=
rrals=20
   will be followed (presumably), and the value =93cn=3Dschema=94 will be=20
   returned from server B (unbeknownst to the application).  If the=20
   application then requests the subschema sub-entry from server A, it=20
   will get the =93cn=3Dschema=94 entry from server A (not from server B). =
=20
   If the two subschema sub-entry entries were named uniquely, this=20
   situation would not occur.=20
   =20
   It is within the bounds of RFC 2251 that server A and server B use=20
   different distinguished names for the subschema sub-entry.  For=20
   example, server A could use =93cn=3Dschema, ou=3DResearch, o=3DYour Comp=
any=94=20
   and server B could use =93cn=3Dschema, ou=3DDept 14, ou=3DMarketing, o=
=3DYour=20
   Company=94.  If this were done, then when the application requested=20
   the subschemasubentry attribute in the prior example, it would be=20
   returned a distinguished name that was also in server B=92s =93name-
   space=94.  If the request for this entry was sent to server A, then=20
   the LDAP referral which re-routed the first request to server B=20
   would do so again, re-directing the request for the subshema sub-
   entry to the server on which the schema exists.=20
   =20
   There are two other possibilities as well: multiple servers all use=20
   the same schema or a single server uses multiple schemas.  In either=20
   of these cases, if the subschema sub-entry entry is named uniquely=20
   (relative to other subschema sub-entry entries that might exist in=20
   the directory name-space) then the =93right=94 schema can be retrieved=20
   unambiguously.=20
   =20
  7.2. Subschema sub-entry is really an administrative element=20
   =20
   The active schema (or schemas) in a directory server is (are) really=20
   an administrative element of that server.  This information, similar=20
   to replication information or namingContext information, is related=20
   to administering the directory server(s) and the directory name-
   space(s) that those servers are serving.=20
   =20
   As an administrative element, it seems a good fit that the subschema=20
   sub-entry entry use the object classes and structures that have been=20
   defined for modeling administrative elements in the directory name-
   space, namely the ldapSubEntry object class defined in=20
   [LDAPSUBENTRY].  Using ldapSubEntry also provides the notion of a=20
    =20
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   =93span of control=94 for the subschema sub-entry entry, something that =

   has been missing from RFC 2251.=20
   =20
   There is a slight problem today with defining only the=20
   subschemasubentry attribute per RFC 2251.  This has to do with=20
   predicting which sub-schema subentry will be used when an entry is=20
   added to the directory.  Since the directory entry does not exist=20
   yet, it has no subschemasubentry attribute =96 thus, there is no way=20
   to point to the subschema sub-entry entry that =93would be=94 used to=20
   verify the entry=92s structure during the processing of the add=20
   operation.=20
   =20
   Further, when found in the root DSE entry, the single-valued=20
   subschemasubentry attribute does not refer to the schema across the=20
   server but rather to the subschema entry that contains the=20
   definition of the attribute types in the root DSE entry. =20
   =20
   By using the ldapSubEntry construct, applications would get a =93hint=94=
=20
   regarding what subschema sub-entry =93would be=94 in effect when adding =

   an entry to the directory as the ldapSubEntry construct defines its=20
   span of control =93downward=94 in the tree until an overriding=20
   ldapSubEntry is encountered.  Note that this is only a =93hint=94 since =

   the active schema could change right at the point in the directory=20
   name-space where the new entry is being added.  This could occur,=20
   for example, when the entry at the top of a namingContext is being=20
   added and the namingContext is located on a different server.=20
   =20
  7.3. Subschema sub-entry entries as ldapSubEntry entries=20
   =20
   With the justification in the last two sections, the proposal for=20
   naming subschema sub-entry entries across the directory name-space=20
   is to=20
   =20
   1) define the subschema sub-entry entry to be derived from the=20
   ldapSubEntry object class:=20
   =20
   ( 1.3.18.0.2.6.x NAME =91ldapSubSchemaSubEntry=92=20
      SUP ldapSubEntry=20
      STRUCTURAL=20
      DESC =91LDAP sub-entry which represents the active schema=20
            that is in effect across a sub-tree of the directory=20
            name-space.  The subschema AUXILIARY object class=20
            is attached to this sub-entry to reflect the schema=20
            information.=92=20
      )=20
   =20
   By using the ldapSubSchemaSubEntry object class above, the naming=20
   attribute for the entry is =93cn=94 (per the ldapSubEntry object class).=
 =20
   Further, the entry should exist just below the entry at which the=20
   subschema sub-entry starts controlling entries in the directory=20
   name-space.  Subschema entries are named in relation to the portion=20
   of the overall directory name-space to which they apply.=20
=20
    =20
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                     Identifying multiple schemas                     =20
   2) recommend that directory servers use this construct to define=20
   their subschema sub entry entries and that the =93subschemasubentry=94=20
   attribute for an entry should point to the schema that =93controls=94=20
   the entry (per RFC 2251), and that the name of the subschema sub-
   entry entry should be specific to what information it controls (if=20
   the schema only applies to information in one or a set of servers,=20
   then the subschema sub-entry should have a name specific to that=20
   server or set of servers).=20
   =20
   Using the example from the previous section with server A and server=20
   B, server A would have two subschema sub-entry entries:=20
   =20
   dn: cn=3Dschema, ou=3DMarketing, o=3DYour Company=20
   objectclass: ldapSubEntry=20
   objectclass: ldapSubSchemaSubEntry=20
   objectclass: subschema=20
   attributetypes: . . .=20
   objectclasses: . . .=20
   matchingrules: . . .=20
   =20
   dn: cn=3Dschema, ou=3DResearch, o=3DYour Company=20
   objectclass: ldapSubEntry=20
   objectclass: ldapSubSchemaSubEntry=20
   objectclass: subschema=20
   attributetypes: . . .=20
   objectclasses: . . .=20
   matchingrules: . . .=20
   =20
   There is nothing preventing server A from using the same =93active=20
   schema=94 for both of these entries while =93publicizing=94 them at both=
=20
   locations in the directory name-space.=20
   =20
   Server B from the previous example would have a subschema sub-entry=20
   named:=20
   =20
   dn: cn=3Dschema, ou=3DDept 14, ou=3DMarketing, o=3DYour Company=20
   objectclass: ldapSubEntry=20
   objectclass: ldapSubSchemaSubEntry=20
   objectclass: subschema=20
   attributetypes: . . .=20
   objectclasses: . . .=20
   matchingrules: . . .=20
   =20
   By basing this object class on the ldapSubEntry construct, the=20
   active schema is presumed to be =93in effect=94 in the directory name-
   space starting at the directory entry directly above the=20
   ldapSubSchemaSubEntry/ldapSubEntry, until another=20
   ldapSubSchemaSubEntry object is encountered lower in the directory=20
   name-space.=20
   =20
   3) define a new root DSE attribute which =93points to=94 the subschema=20
   sub-entry entries that are active within that specific server (since=20
   it is possible that multiple schemas may be active within a single=20
   server).=20
    =20
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                     Identifying multiple schemas                     =20
   =20
   Since multiple active schemas may exist across the directory name-
   space, it would be useful for applications to be able to query the=20
   root DSE entry in a directory server to find the names of all=20
   =93active schemas=94 in that server.  The =93subschemasubentry=94 attrib=
ute=20
   in the root DSE is not used for this purpose since this attribute=20
   should be used to refer to the subschema sub-entry attribute which=20
   controls the formats of the attributes used in the root DSE.=20
   =20
   A new attribute must be defined to hold this information:=20
   =20
   ( 1.3.18.0.2.4.x NAME =91subschemasubentries=92=20
      SYNTAX distinguishedName=20
      EQUALITY distinguishedNameMatch=20
      DESC =91multi-valued attribute in the root DSE which points to=20
            all ldapSubSchemaSubEntry entries that are in effect/used=20
            on this server=92 )=20
   =20
8.  Summary=20
   =20
   This document has described the current problem of naming subschema=20
   sub-entry entries with identical names across multiple LDAP servers=20
   that are using different =93active schemas=94.   Problems can occur for =

   applications that are attempting to access and/or modify the=20
   currently =93active schema=94, especially when LDAP referrals are used=20
   in the environment to build a directory name-space that spans=20
   multiple directory servers.=20
   =20
   This document recommends that subschema sub-entries build on the=20
   ldapSubEntry construct to unambiguously name subschema sub-entry=20
   entries across the directory name-space as well as provide a =93hint=94 =

   for applications in determining the =93active schema=94 that will be=20
   used when a new entry is added to the directory.  The name of the=20
   scubschema sub-entry is distinct in the overall directory name-space=20
   from other subschema sub-entries by their placement in the name-
   space.  In addition, this document defines a new root DSE attribute=20
   to allow directory servers to =93publicize=94 the set of subschema sub-
   entries that are controlling entries in the portion of the directory=20
   name-space being served by that server.=20
   =20
9.  Security Considerations=20
   =20
   There are no additional security considerations introduced by the=20
   recommendations made in this document.  It should be noted that=20
   access to and update of the active schema in a directory server=20
   should be controlled by some means of access control to ensure that=20
   only qualified entities are able to access and/or update the active=20
   schema.  Unauthorized updates to the active schema could cause=20
   existing information in the directory to become unreachable.=20
    =20
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                     Identifying multiple schemas                     =20
   =20
10. References=20
   =20
   [RFC2251]=20
   M. Wahl, T. Howes, S. Kille, =93Lightweight Directory Access Protocol=20
   (v3)=94, RFC 2251, December 1997.=20
   =20
   [RFC2252]=20
   M. Wahl, A. Coulbeck, T. Howes, S. Kille, =94Lightweight Directory=20
   Access Protocol (v3):  Attribute Syntax Definitions=94, RFC 2252,=20
   December 1997.=20
   =20
   [RFC2849]=20
   G. Good, =93The LDAP Data Interchange Format (LDIF) - Technical=20
   Specification=94, RFC 2849, June 2000.=20
   =20
   [LDAPREFERRAL]=20
   K. Zeilenga, =93Named Subordinate References in LDAP Directories=94,=20
   Internet Draft, draft-zeilenga-ldap-namedref-03.txt.=20
   =20
   [LDAPSUBENTRY]=20
   E. Reed, =93LDAP SubEntry Definition=94, Internet Draft, draft-ietf-
   ldup-subentry-08.txt, April 2001.=20
   =20
11. Copyright Notice=20
   =20
   Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2001). All Rights Reserved. =20
   =20
   This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to=20
   others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it=20
   or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published=20
   and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any=20
   kind, provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph=20
   are included on all such copies and derivative works. However, this=20
   document itself may not be modified in any way, such as by removing=20
   the copyright notice or references to the Internet Society or other=20
   Internet organizations, except as needed for the purpose of=20
   developing Internet standards in which case the procedures for=20
   copyrights defined in the Internet Standards process must be=20
   followed, or as required to translate it into languages other than=20
   English.=20
   =20
   The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be=20
   revoked by the Internet Society or its successors or assigns.=20
   =20
   This document and the information contained herein is provided on an=20
   "AS IS" basis and THE INTERNET SOCIETY AND THE INTERNET ENGINEERING=20
   TASK FORCE DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING=20
   BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY THAT THE USE OF THE INFORMATION=20
   HEREIN WILL NOT INFRINGE ANY RIGHTS OR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF=20
   MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE."=20
   =20
12. Author's Address=20
   =20
    =20
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   Tim Hahn=20
   IBM=20
   Bldg 256-2, Dept. C8NG=20
   1701 North St.=20
   Endicott, NY  13760  USA=20
   E-mail:  hahnt@us.ibm.com=20
   =20
   =20
   =20
   =20
    =20
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From: "Kurt D. Zeilenga" <Kurt@openldap.org>
Subject: RE: ACM permission
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At 09:25 AM 7/9/2001, Skovgaard, Erik wrote:
>That would be a problem.  A lot of us still use the userPassword for
>authentication.  It must be possible to protect the password (including
>performing filter matching) yet be able to use the compare operation on the
>attribute.

I'm not sure how permissions for compare relate to authentication.
The only operation which performs LDAP authentication is the
bind and its not controlled, per the I-D, by any permissions.

This said, I support having separate "assert" (compare/search
filter) permissions from read permissions as it is often useful
to allow one to assert a value but not allow them to read all
values.  The example (which I believe someone else gave) is
that there may a group where one is allowed to assert that
an entity is a member but not allowed to see the member list.

Kurt



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At 01:17 PM 7/9/01 -0700, Kurt D. Zeilenga wrote:
>At 09:25 AM 7/9/2001, Skovgaard, Erik wrote:
> >That would be a problem.  A lot of us still use the userPassword for
> >authentication.  It must be possible to protect the password (including
> >performing filter matching) yet be able to use the compare operation on the
> >attribute.
>
>I'm not sure how permissions for compare relate to authentication.
>The only operation which performs LDAP authentication is the
>bind and its not controlled, per the I-D, by any permissions.

I think that what Erik is saying is that many applications leverage LDAP 
for their own authentication.  When a user tries to access that 
application, then internally the application takes the user supplied 
password, and issues an LDAP compare operation to verify the password's 
correctness.  This appears to be a widely used (but primitive) form of 
"single sign on".

Bruce


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Brian/Kurt,

Mmm, I see your point: in the case of a deny aci where the subject
evaluates to undefined then the "err on the conservative side" principle
would imply that the aciSubject should apply (ie. the deny kicks in).

This behaviour seems reasonable to me.  Equally, being explicit that we
are not requiring remote group/role evaluation also seems good.

Here's a sketch of the text that would give us that behaviour--just the
changed sections:

"
4.3.2.4  Applicability Rules for Subjects

Call the subject portion of the ACI in question aciSubject.  Note that
it is possible that some applicability rules required for evaluating
aciSubject will evaluate to undefined.  So, an applicability rule can
evaluate to one of three values: applies/does not apply/undefined--these
cases are treated explicitly in the text.
To determine if aciSubject applies to requestorSubject we apply the
following rules:

  1.  The ACI in question is a grant ACI.  Then the ACI applies if both
      the context and pureSubject portions of aciSubject apply, as
      defined in "Applicability Rules for Context" and "Applicability
      Rules for pureSubject" below.

  2.  The ACI in question is a deny ACI.  There are three possibilities:

        a.  The pureSubject part applies or is undefined (according to
"Applicability
            Rules for pureSubject").  Then the ACI applies to
            requestorSubject.

        b.  The pureSubject part does not apply.  Then the ACI applies
            to any requestorSubject with an authnLevel less than the
            authnLevel of the ACI.

        c.  Otherwise the ACI does not apply.
"

and

"
4.3.2.7  Applicability Rules for idBasedSubject

If idBasedSubject is of type thisSubject, then it applies to
requestorSubject if authzId from requestorSubject is of type "dn" and is
equal to the DN of the resource.

If idBasedSubject is of type oneSubject, then it applies to
requestorSubject if authzId from requestorSubject is equal to the
authzId specified in aciSubject.

If idBasedSubject is of type setOfSubjects, then it applies to
requestorSubject if authzId from requestorSubject is defined to be in
the set specified in aciSubject (i.e. is in that group, role or
subtree).  The "Precedence of Subjects within a Scope" includes rules
for determining membership in a setOfSubjects. If the group or role
definition is remote then servers MAY perform a remote operation to
determine membership. If the server does not support remote evaluation
then evaluation of a remote group or role evaluates to undefined.  In
general, if this membership evaluation cannot be completed (eg. because
of resource limits or problems with a remote server that stores the
group/role definition) then the idBasedSubject evaluates to undefined.
"

Rob.

Brian Jarvis wrote:
> 
> Sorry about previous copies and confusion with this message.  #$^%^ mail program and fat fingers.
> 
> Rob,
> 
> I think we need to differentiate between grant and deny acis when evaluation
> fails--we should always fail toward denying the access.  On failure, a grant
> aci should assume the aciSubject does not apply while a deny aci should
> assume that it does apply.
> 
> --the walrus
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: robert byrne [mailto:robert.byrne@Sun.COM]
> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:25 AM
> > To: Kurt D. Zeilenga
> > Cc: john.strassner@intelliden.com; Ryan Moats;
> > ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> > Subject: Re: expansion of groups/roles/subtree subjects in LDAP ACM
> >
> >
> >
> > Kurt,
> >
> > I think what's needed here is for the draft to specify that, if the
> > evaluation of any part of the subject fails, then the subject part of
> > that aci does not apply.  So we can change the intro to 4.3.2.4 to
> > something like:
> >
> > "4.3.2.4  Applicability Rules for Subjects
> >
> > Call the subject portion of the ACI in question aciSubject.  Then to
> > determine if aciSubject applies to requestorSubject we apply the
> > following rules.  In the case where the server fails to evaluate a
> > rule and so fails to fully confirm that aciSubject applies, then
> > aciSubject does not apply."
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> > John Strassner wrote:
> > >
> > > agreed, except that noting in the log system that the
> > group/role/subtree
> > > has not been fully expanded **may** give, in some cases,
> > more information
> > > than needed and be a start in compromising security.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > John
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ryan Moats [mailto:rmoats@lemurnetworks.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:18 PM
> > > To: Kurt D. Zeilenga
> > > Cc: ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> > > Subject: Re: expansion of groups/roles/subtree subjects in LDAP ACM
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 12:58:23PM -0700, Kurt D. Zeilenga wrote:
> > > > How are exceptional conditions in expanding
> > > > groups/roles/subtrees to be handled?  In particular,
> > > > what is the ACM behavior when the groups/roles/subtrees
> > > > cannot be fully expanded and the requestor's DN is not
> > > > found in the partial set of DNs?
> > > >
> > > > Kurt
> > >
> > > Well as an initial (not perfect) suggestion I would opt for
> > > notifying via the log system that the group/role/subtree
> > > has not been fully expanded and that access has been denied
> > > because the DN is not in the partial set.
> > >
> > > Ryan
> >



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> In this setup, which is quite common BTW, the superior service
> needs to hold a subordinate reference and the subordinate
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I think what are you saying is, anything that is registered 
in dns as
_ldap._tcp.es.net
  like
        w2kdomain.es.net
        whitepages.es.net
        grid-yellowpages.es.net

must be prepared to provide service or referrals for anything
with dc=es,dc=net as the (appropriate)  part of its base name,
is that right?

(If not) please straighten me out!

(If so)
I didn't realize this level of coherence  was required ... I don't
 think it's that explicit in the locator draft.  Should it be?
(Same applies to forbidding  chasing dns search upwards)

Something about this level of coherence makes me nervous, but I'm
not exactly sure what.   I don't think I expect it to work perfectly
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inclined to  code an ldap client to look up all the servers
it gets from the  dns lookup and exhaust the list of servers in case the 
previous ones didn't have the base name it was looking for.  
But maybe that's undesirable behavior in some other context.

Leaving aside the dangling o=grid rdn, it seems like one
appropriate  way  to use dns srv for grid directory servers
is to register a referral server that could deal with the
restriction above  &  that clients could find by the usual
_ldap._tcp.my.domain query.  How or whether the other servers
would be registered in dns is tbd.  They probably should be
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Kurt,

I have applications that use the compare operation on the userPassword for
authentication.

BTW, a BIND may result in a compare operation if you use chaining on the
back end of the server.  Has anyone considered that?

Cheers,                  ....Erik.

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At 09:25 AM 7/9/2001, Skovgaard, Erik wrote:
>That would be a problem.  A lot of us still use the userPassword for
>authentication.  It must be possible to protect the password (including
>performing filter matching) yet be able to use the compare operation on the
>attribute.

I'm not sure how permissions for compare relate to authentication.
The only operation which performs LDAP authentication is the
bind and its not controlled, per the I-D, by any permissions.

This said, I support having separate "assert" (compare/search
filter) permissions from read permissions as it is often useful
to allow one to assert a value but not allow them to read all
values.  The example (which I believe someone else gave) is
that there may a group where one is allowed to assert that
an entity is a member but not allowed to see the member list.

Kurt


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Hi Erik,

It's not the normal way to use a compare operation on the password for
authentication.
Why not use the bind and you have no problems with AccessControl.

I am not sure whether you want to make a chained bind, but if you do it it
is
a chained bind and not a compare operation on the userPassword.

Helmut 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skovgaard, Erik [mailto:Erik.Skovgaard@icn.siemens.com]
> Sent: Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 23:00
> To: 'Kurt D. Zeilenga'
> Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> Subject: RE: ACM permission
> 
> 
> Kurt,
> 
> I have applications that use the compare operation on the 
> userPassword for
> authentication.
> 
> BTW, a BIND may result in a compare operation if you use 
> chaining on the
> back end of the server.  Has anyone considered that?
> 
> Cheers,                  ....Erik.
> 
> Erik Skovgaard
> Siemens Meta-Directory Solutions
> Phone: +1 604-204-0750
> Fax:   +1 604-204-0760
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt D. Zeilenga [mailto:Kurt@OpenLDAP.org]
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 13:17
> To: Skovgaard, Erik
> Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> Subject: RE: ACM permission
> 
> 
> At 09:25 AM 7/9/2001, Skovgaard, Erik wrote:
> >That would be a problem.  A lot of us still use the userPassword for
> >authentication.  It must be possible to protect the password 
> (including
> >performing filter matching) yet be able to use the compare 
> operation on the
> >attribute.
> 
> I'm not sure how permissions for compare relate to authentication.
> The only operation which performs LDAP authentication is the
> bind and its not controlled, per the I-D, by any permissions.
> 
> This said, I support having separate "assert" (compare/search
> filter) permissions from read permissions as it is often useful
> to allow one to assert a value but not allow them to read all
> values.  The example (which I believe someone else gave) is
> that there may a group where one is allowed to assert that
> an entity is a member but not allowed to see the member list.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> 



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Helmut,

I am working with at least two products that use the compare operation to
validate a password.  Agreed, that is not the best way, but the point here
is that the Directory was certainly intended to support this authentication
method and we should not preclude it.

I am not aware of any chained Bind operation, but my latest X.518 document
date back to 1993.  Are you telling me that the operation has been added in
later versions?

Cheers,                   ....Erik.

Erik Skovgaard
Siemens Meta-Directory Solutions
Phone: +1 604-204-0750
Fax:   +1 604-204-0760

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 02:13
To: 'Skovgaard, Erik'; 'Kurt D. Zeilenga'
Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
Subject: RE: ACM permission


Hi Erik,

It's not the normal way to use a compare operation on the password for
authentication.
Why not use the bind and you have no problems with AccessControl.

I am not sure whether you want to make a chained bind, but if you do it it
is
a chained bind and not a compare operation on the userPassword.

Helmut 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skovgaard, Erik [mailto:Erik.Skovgaard@icn.siemens.com]
> Sent: Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 23:00
> To: 'Kurt D. Zeilenga'
> Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> Subject: RE: ACM permission
> 
> 
> Kurt,
> 
> I have applications that use the compare operation on the 
> userPassword for
> authentication.
> 
> BTW, a BIND may result in a compare operation if you use 
> chaining on the
> back end of the server.  Has anyone considered that?
> 
> Cheers,                  ....Erik.
> 
> Erik Skovgaard
> Siemens Meta-Directory Solutions
> Phone: +1 604-204-0750
> Fax:   +1 604-204-0760
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt D. Zeilenga [mailto:Kurt@OpenLDAP.org]
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 13:17
> To: Skovgaard, Erik
> Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> Subject: RE: ACM permission
> 
> 
> At 09:25 AM 7/9/2001, Skovgaard, Erik wrote:
> >That would be a problem.  A lot of us still use the userPassword for
> >authentication.  It must be possible to protect the password 
> (including
> >performing filter matching) yet be able to use the compare 
> operation on the
> >attribute.
> 
> I'm not sure how permissions for compare relate to authentication.
> The only operation which performs LDAP authentication is the
> bind and its not controlled, per the I-D, by any permissions.
> 
> This said, I support having separate "assert" (compare/search
> filter) permissions from read permissions as it is often useful
> to allow one to assert a value but not allow them to read all
> values.  The example (which I believe someone else gave) is
> that there may a group where one is allowed to assert that
> an entity is a member but not allowed to see the member list.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> 


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Hi Erik,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skovgaard, Erik [mailto:Erik.Skovgaard@icn.siemens.com]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Juli 2001 15:37
> To: Volpers, Helmut; Skovgaard, Erik; 'Kurt D. Zeilenga'
> Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> Subject: RE: ACM permission
> 
> 
> Helmut,
> 
> I am working with at least two products that use the compare 
> operation to
> validate a password.  Agreed, that is not the best way, but 
> the point here
> is that the Directory was certainly intended to support this 
> authentication
> method and we should not preclude it.

I agree that application use this to validate a password, but I don't think 
that any LDAPServer handle this as an authentication.
> 
> I am not aware of any chained Bind operation, but my latest 
> X.518 document
> date back to 1993.  Are you telling me that the operation has 
> been added in
> later versions?

No. But if you want to use chaining for authentication (what I don't like)
why not doing it with a bind instead of a compare. 

Helmut
> 
> Cheers,                   ....Erik.
> 
> Erik Skovgaard
> Siemens Meta-Directory Solutions
> Phone: +1 604-204-0750
> Fax:   +1 604-204-0760
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volpers, Helmut [mailto:helmut.volpers@icn.siemens.de]
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 02:13
> To: 'Skovgaard, Erik'; 'Kurt D. Zeilenga'
> Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> Subject: RE: ACM permission
> 
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> It's not the normal way to use a compare operation on the password for
> authentication.
> Why not use the bind and you have no problems with AccessControl.
> 
> I am not sure whether you want to make a chained bind, but if 
> you do it it
> is
> a chained bind and not a compare operation on the userPassword.
> 
> Helmut 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Skovgaard, Erik [mailto:Erik.Skovgaard@icn.siemens.com]
> > Sent: Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 23:00
> > To: 'Kurt D. Zeilenga'
> > Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> > Subject: RE: ACM permission
> > 
> > 
> > Kurt,
> > 
> > I have applications that use the compare operation on the 
> > userPassword for
> > authentication.
> > 
> > BTW, a BIND may result in a compare operation if you use 
> > chaining on the
> > back end of the server.  Has anyone considered that?
> > 
> > Cheers,                  ....Erik.
> > 
> > Erik Skovgaard
> > Siemens Meta-Directory Solutions
> > Phone: +1 604-204-0750
> > Fax:   +1 604-204-0760
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kurt D. Zeilenga [mailto:Kurt@OpenLDAP.org]
> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 13:17
> > To: Skovgaard, Erik
> > Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> > Subject: RE: ACM permission
> > 
> > 
> > At 09:25 AM 7/9/2001, Skovgaard, Erik wrote:
> > >That would be a problem.  A lot of us still use the 
> userPassword for
> > >authentication.  It must be possible to protect the password 
> > (including
> > >performing filter matching) yet be able to use the compare 
> > operation on the
> > >attribute.
> > 
> > I'm not sure how permissions for compare relate to authentication.
> > The only operation which performs LDAP authentication is the
> > bind and its not controlled, per the I-D, by any permissions.
> > 
> > This said, I support having separate "assert" (compare/search
> > filter) permissions from read permissions as it is often useful
> > to allow one to assert a value but not allow them to read all
> > values.  The example (which I believe someone else gave) is
> > that there may a group where one is allowed to assert that
> > an entity is a member but not allowed to see the member list.
> > 
> > Kurt
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



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Helmut,

It works with DirX!

I am talking about authentication for an application, not the Directory
itself.  To clarify: If I have the entry in another DSA, but access some
other DSA, a Compare operation will be propagated as a chained compare to
the DSA that holds the entry I am trying to validate against.

It may not be the best solution from a security perspective, but the Model
allows for it.

Cheers,                  ....Erik.


Erik Skovgaard
Siemens Meta-Directory Solutions
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Fax:   +1 604-204-0760

-----Original Message-----
From: Volpers, Helmut [mailto:helmut.volpers@icn.siemens.de]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 07:01
To: 'Skovgaard, Erik'; 'Kurt D. Zeilenga'
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Subject: RE: ACM permission


Hi Erik,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skovgaard, Erik [mailto:Erik.Skovgaard@icn.siemens.com]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Juli 2001 15:37
> To: Volpers, Helmut; Skovgaard, Erik; 'Kurt D. Zeilenga'
> Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> Subject: RE: ACM permission
> 
> 
> Helmut,
> 
> I am working with at least two products that use the compare 
> operation to
> validate a password.  Agreed, that is not the best way, but 
> the point here
> is that the Directory was certainly intended to support this 
> authentication
> method and we should not preclude it.

I agree that application use this to validate a password, but I don't think 
that any LDAPServer handle this as an authentication.
> 
> I am not aware of any chained Bind operation, but my latest 
> X.518 document
> date back to 1993.  Are you telling me that the operation has 
> been added in
> later versions?

No. But if you want to use chaining for authentication (what I don't like)
why not doing it with a bind instead of a compare. 

Helmut
> 
> Cheers,                   ....Erik.
> 
> Erik Skovgaard
> Siemens Meta-Directory Solutions
> Phone: +1 604-204-0750
> Fax:   +1 604-204-0760
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volpers, Helmut [mailto:helmut.volpers@icn.siemens.de]
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 02:13
> To: 'Skovgaard, Erik'; 'Kurt D. Zeilenga'
> Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> Subject: RE: ACM permission
> 
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> It's not the normal way to use a compare operation on the password for
> authentication.
> Why not use the bind and you have no problems with AccessControl.
> 
> I am not sure whether you want to make a chained bind, but if 
> you do it it
> is
> a chained bind and not a compare operation on the userPassword.
> 
> Helmut 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Skovgaard, Erik [mailto:Erik.Skovgaard@icn.siemens.com]
> > Sent: Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 23:00
> > To: 'Kurt D. Zeilenga'
> > Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> > Subject: RE: ACM permission
> > 
> > 
> > Kurt,
> > 
> > I have applications that use the compare operation on the 
> > userPassword for
> > authentication.
> > 
> > BTW, a BIND may result in a compare operation if you use 
> > chaining on the
> > back end of the server.  Has anyone considered that?
> > 
> > Cheers,                  ....Erik.
> > 
> > Erik Skovgaard
> > Siemens Meta-Directory Solutions
> > Phone: +1 604-204-0750
> > Fax:   +1 604-204-0760
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kurt D. Zeilenga [mailto:Kurt@OpenLDAP.org]
> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 13:17
> > To: Skovgaard, Erik
> > Cc: 'Mark Davidson'; ietf-ldapext@netscape.com
> > Subject: RE: ACM permission
> > 
> > 
> > At 09:25 AM 7/9/2001, Skovgaard, Erik wrote:
> > >That would be a problem.  A lot of us still use the 
> userPassword for
> > >authentication.  It must be possible to protect the password 
> > (including
> > >performing filter matching) yet be able to use the compare 
> > operation on the
> > >attribute.
> > 
> > I'm not sure how permissions for compare relate to authentication.
> > The only operation which performs LDAP authentication is the
> > bind and its not controlled, per the I-D, by any permissions.
> > 
> > This said, I support having separate "assert" (compare/search
> > filter) permissions from read permissions as it is often useful
> > to allow one to assert a value but not allow them to read all
> > values.  The example (which I believe someone else gave) is
> > that there may a group where one is allowed to assert that
> > an entity is a member but not allowed to see the member list.
> > 
> > Kurt
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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LDAPEXTers,

The ASN.1 for the ACI syntax given in draft-ietf-ldapext-acl-model-08.txt
corresponds to an earlier iteration of the ABNF actually published.
Consequently, there are apparent semantic discrepancies between the ABNF
and ASN.1 definitions. The version of the ASN.1 that is intended to conform
to the ABNF published in draft-ietf-ldapext-acl-model-08.txt is as follows.

Regards,
Steven


LDAP-Access-Control-Model
DEFINITIONS EXTENSIBILITY IMPLIED ::=
BEGIN

IMPORTS
    AttributeType, DistinguishedName, CONTEXT
        FROM InformationFramework; -- from [X501]

ACI ::= SEQUENCE {
    rights      SEQUENCE {
        grant           Permissions OPTIONAL,
        deny        [1] Permissions OPTIONAL }
            (WITH COMPONENTS { ..., grant PRESENT } |
            WITH COMPONENTS { ..., deny PRESENT }),
            -- at least one of grant or deny must be present --
    attr        CHOICE {
        all             NULL,
        entry       [1] NULL,
        attributes      SET (1..MAX) OF AttributeTypeAndOptions },
    subject     GeneralSubject
}

-- An X.500 representation for an LDAP Attribute Description --
AttributeTypeAndOptions ::= SEQUENCE {
    type        AttributeType,
    type-name   UTF8String OPTIONAL,
        -- A hint of what LDAP textual name to use when encoding an
        -- AttributeTypeAndOptions as an <AttributeDescription>.
    options     SEQUENCE SIZE (1..MAX) OF CONTEXT.&Assertion OPTIONAL
        -- A future revision will constrain CONTEXT.&Assertion to be
        -- the context assertion syntax of the CONTEXT information
        -- object defined by the X.500 working group to represent
        -- LDAP attribute options in the X.500 protocols.
        -- This is likely to be the UTF8String type.
}

GeneralSubject ::= SEQUENCE {
    context     AuthnLevel,
    pureSubject PureSubject
}

AuthnLevel ::= ENUMERATED {
    none    (0),
    weak    (1),
    limited (2),
    strong  (3)
}

PureSubject ::= CHOICE {
    anySubject          NULL,
    machineSubject  [1] MachineSubject,
    idBasedSubject  [2] IDBasedSubject
    -- may be expanded per [AuthMeth] --
}

MachineSubject ::= CHOICE {
    ipAddress       SET OF IPAddressRange,
    dns         [1] SET OF PartialDomainName
}

IPAddressRange ::= CHOICE {
    single      IPAddress,
    range       SEQUENCE {
        lowerBound  IPAddress,
        upperBound  IPAddress
    }
}

IPAddress ::= UTF8String

-- The character contents of an IPAddress string are encoded
-- according to the <ipAddress> rule in Section 4.1.1.

PartialDomainName ::= UTF8String

-- The character contents of a PartialDomainName string are encoded
-- according to the <partialdomainname> rule in Section 4.1.1.

IDBasedSubject ::= CHOICE {
    thisSubject         NULL,
    oneSubject      [1] OneSubject,
    setOfSubjects   [2] SetOfSubjects
}

OneSubject ::= CHOICE {
    dn      DistinguishedName,
    user    UTF8String
}

SetOfSubjects ::= CHOICE {
    role        DistinguishedName,
    group   [1] DistinguishedName,
    subtree [2] DistinguishedName
}

Permissions ::= BIT STRING {
    add                 (0),
    delete              (1),
    export              (2),
    import              (3),
    renameDN            (4),
    browseDN            (5),
    viewEntry           (6),
    returnDN            (7),
    read                (8),
    search              (9),
    searchPresence      (10),
    write               (11),
    obliterate          (12),
    compare             (13),
    make                (14),
    unveil              (15),
    getEffectiveRights  (16) }
    (CONSTRAINED BY { -- at least one bit must be set -- })

-- permissions read, write, obliterate, search,
--   searchPresence, compare, make work on attributes
-- permissions add, delete, export, import, renameDN,
--   browseDN, viewEntry, returnDN, unveil,
--   getEffectiveRights work on entries

END



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Folks,

This is continuing the issue Mark and others raised in the "ACM
permission" thread about the fact that there are too many permissions in
this model and the consequent complexity/manageability/security
implications of that.  In this thread I want to focus on resolving this
problem as best we can.

If you think that too-many-permissions is a flaw in this model then you
need to propose a way to fix that.  Presumably the way to do that is to
drop some of the functionality that this large permissions set is
providing.  However if you do that then you need to be explicit about
the functionality you are dropping so that the list can decide if that
simplicty/functionality trade off is the right thing.  The way to
proceed
here is to pick a permission you don't like, go section 5, see where
it's used and see if you can live without the granularity/functionality
that permission is providing.  Then you need to explain that to the
list.

To help a bit, I have included a previous mail where I outlined the
functionality each permission provides and includes a proposal to drop
two of the permissions ("t" and "p") with an explanation of why I think
that
would be acceptable.

Rob.

> Mark (and others who have commented on "too many permissions"),
> 
> Let's distinguish between compressing the list of permissions by
> overloading permission names (eg. why not use "read" as an
> attribute-level permission AND an entry-level permission) and dropping
> permission names which means dropping functionality from the model (eg.
> dropping "t" means you don't want to support the returnDN concept
> anymore).
> 
> Here's one way to compress but not lose functionality, by reusing
> permission names and relying on whether the aci is an entry-level or
> attribute-level aci to make the difference--I've commented out the old
> permission with a ";" along with an explanation of what replaces it:
> 
> "
> Permissions (some of which apply to both entries and attribute):
> 
>    r   Read            Read attribute values or Entries
>    w   Write           Modify-add values or rename an entry's DN.
> ; replaced with "d"   o   Obliterate      Modify-delete values
>    s   Search          Search entries with specified
>                           attributes or browse the specified entry
>    p   searchPresence  Presence only filters
>    c   Compare         Compare attributes
> ; replaced with "a"   m   Make            Make attributes on a new entry
> below
>                           this entry
>    a    Add        Add an entry or attribute below this entry
>    d    Delete     Delete this entry or attribute
>    e    Export     Export entry & subordinates to new
>                       location
>    i    Import     Import entry & subordinates below this
>                       entry from some location
> ; replaced with "w"   n    RenameDN   Rename an entry's DN
> ; replaced with "s"   b    BrowseDN   Browse an entry's DN
> ; replaced with "r"   v    ViewEntry  A read level entry permission
>    t    ReturnDN   Allows DN of entry to be disclosed in
>                       an operation result
>    u    Unveil     This is the discloseOnError permission
>    g    GetEffectiveRights  This is get effective rights
>                                 permission
> "
> 
> This reduces the permissions set from 17 to 12.  But does that really
> aid understanding ? The point being that although the admin now has a
> smaller permission set that hasn't changed the fact that "w" on an
> attribute means something different to "w" on an entry.  Also, by not
> overloading permissions we could, without confusion, mix attribute-level
> and entry-level permissions in the same aci (note though that currently
> an aci either contains entry-level or attribute-level permissions but
> not both).
> 
> So, to dicsuss dropping functionality.  First, Mark, I do not think it's
> a good idea to drop filter/search and compare permissions--they just
> seem too fundamental.  I do however see two low hanging candidates to
> drop, namely "t" and "p".  "t" is concerned with supporting aliasing in
> the ACM, "p" is a refinement on the search filter permission.  I would
> encourage those who think we have too many permissions to at first
> consider dropping these guys.  The reason I think returnDN is a good
> candidate is that hardly anyone approves of aliasing (the iPlanet LDAP
> server doesn't support it and anyone that does seems to regret
> it--performance/complexity issues).  The reason I think "p" might be a
> good candidate is that it's really a refinement of "s" and could be
> viewed as just too much functionality.  Dropping "t" and "p" and using
> the above "compression" gets us down to 10 permissions.
> 
> After that I think it gets more difficult to find easy stuff to throw
> out: people have argued for the inclusion of "u" (disclose on error) and
> the getEffectiveRights control is key to managing deployments of this
> ACM so I think "g" (that says who can use this control)  is also
> important--Mark your controlType/"use" idea could work for that but I
> think that deserves a seperate thread.  The exotic looking "e" and "i"
> are concerned with the complex moddn operation and I think they make the
> required permissions for moddn easier to understand (see required perms
> for moddn in section 5).  We enforce an entry-add time permission at the
> attribute-level too ("m"), again people argued for this, their point
> being that just relying on an entry-level "a" and allowing _any_
> attribute to be added based on that is just too coarse.  Another point
> here is that, for deployments where any of this extra functionality is
> not required, then the management tool for acis (and let's hope there is
> one!) can hide these extra permissions by not exposing them and
> granting/not_granting them by default; the point being that in that the
> tool can help hide the "too many permissions" complexity.
> 
> To summarize: the way to approach the "too many permissions" problem is
> to first agree on the functionality we are willing to drop, if any. 
> After that whether we overload permissions or not is probably not
> critical.
> 
> Rob.
> 
> Mark Davidson wrote:
> > 
> > I have been thinking about simplifying the permissions
> > in the ACM and also adding permissions for controls. How
> > about:
> > 
> > permissions for attributes: read, modify, create, delete
> > permissions for entries: read, modify, create, delete
> > 
> > and add control OID ass a possible target with a permission
> > of use
> > 
> > so:
> > 
> >     ACI = rights "#" target "#" generalSubject
> > 
> >     permission = "r" / ; read
> >                  "m" / ; modify
> >                  "c" / ; create
> >                  "d" / ; delete
> >                  "u"   ; use
> >     ; permission u can only be used on controls
> > 
> >     target = "[all]" / "[entry]" / (attribute *("," attribute)) /
> >          "[controls]" / (controlType *("," controlType))
> > 
> >     controlType is defined in RFC2251
> > 
> > Granting these permissions allows:
> > 
> > Entry read - allows access to DN
> > Entry modify - can change DN
> > Entry create - can create an entry below this entry
> > Entry delete - can delete this entry
> > 
> > Attribute read - can read attribute
> > Attribute modify - can modify replace attribute values
> > Attribute delete - can modify delete attribute values
> > Attribute create - can modify add attribute values
> > 
> > Control use - can use control where aci is active (this
> >               replaces the g permission in a more
> >               general way)
> > 
> > This does not give quite the same detailed level of
> > control as the current scheme, but is much easier
> > to understand from an administration point of view,
> > rather that a protocol point of view.
> > 
> > Mark
>



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Hi,

> To help a bit, I have included a previous mail where I outlined the
> functionality each permission provides and includes a proposal to drop
> two of the permissions ("t" and "p") with an explanation of why I think
> that
> would be acceptable.

I agree with Robert about removing 't' and 'p' and would also remove a
few others
(although not as many as before).

'c' (compare) is a special case of 's' (search), so if I wanted to stop
the compare
operation with an ACI I would also have to stop search. Otherwise, if
compare is 
denied, but not search, then I would just issue a baseObject search
using an equality
filter and get the same information. So I would drop 'c' and leave 's'
to control 
compare.

'i' import and 'e' export seem to be related to 'a' add and 'd' delete.
Does the list
think that we need to tell the difference between adding and deleting
entries and 
moving them? If not, then 'i' and 'e' can go and add can replace import
and delete 
replace export in section 5.6 (Modify DN Operation).

Mark



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Folks,

The issue of authentication levels versus mechanisms has come up again.

The history on this is that the model started with levels, went to
mechanisms and now has moved back to levels.

To help us try to reach concensus on this, here are three options and I
try to list some pros and cos of each of the options.

1. Remove reference to authentication levels and mechanisms.

This way, the model would not be capable of exressing anything
concerning the authentication method or strength of a user.  The policy
of authentication requirements on users would be external to the model.

Pro: 
  1. simplifies the ACM
  
Con:
  1. authentication is a basic notion for authorization and so it's
natural to want to express it in the ACM.

--

2. Go back to a list of mechanisms with no "strength ordering" among
     the mechanisms.

This way an aci subject would have to specify a list authentication
mechanisms.  There would be special keywords "none" and "authenticated"
to mean "no authentication" and "some kind of authentication".

Pro:
 1. can force a given authzID to use a given mechanism.

Con: 
 1. As no ordering is defined on mechanisms, the model cannot
automatically give you behaviour you might expect: eg. if an aci
authorizes me when I bind with DIGEST-MD5, I might be surprised to find
that when I bound using SSL that it did not grant me that right.  The
implication is that at grant aci create time the admin needs to list
_all_ the mecahanisms he wishes to grant rights.  For deny, he needs to
consider the possibility of the subject of his deny coming in using a
different, "less strong", authentication mechanism with a potentially
different authorizationId.

--

3. Stick with authentication levels and a "strength hierarchy"

Pro:
  1. The model can make use of the "strength hierarchy" in defining
      ACI semantics (e.g. a deny applies to ALL subjects at lower
      authnLevel).
 2. Once the mechanisms are put in the buckets, the admin of acis is
easier--just choose beteen the four levels rather than lots of
mechanisms.

Con:
  1. Assignment of mechanisms to levels is on a per-server basis, but
      we could define a way for servers to advertise their assignments
      (for example to help with replication).
 2. No way to associate a particular user with a particular mechanism.

Cast your vote now!  Otherwise we will default to 3, which is the
current flavour.

Rob.



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Doh!  Lets try a mailing list response (sigh)

Given the current state of #3, I'd prefer either 1 or 2.

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On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 04:50:48PM +0200, robert byrne wrote:
| 
| Folks,
| 
| The issue of authentication levels versus mechanisms has come up again.
| 
| The history on this is that the model started with levels, went to
| mechanisms and now has moved back to levels.
| 
| To help us try to reach concensus on this, here are three options and I
| try to list some pros and cos of each of the options.
| 
| 1. Remove reference to authentication levels and mechanisms.
| 
| This way, the model would not be capable of exressing anything
| concerning the authentication method or strength of a user.  The policy
| of authentication requirements on users would be external to the model.
| 
| Pro: 
|   1. simplifies the ACM
|   
| Con:
|   1. authentication is a basic notion for authorization and so it's
| natural to want to express it in the ACM.
| 
| --
| 
| 2. Go back to a list of mechanisms with no "strength ordering" among
|      the mechanisms.
| 
| This way an aci subject would have to specify a list authentication
| mechanisms.  There would be special keywords "none" and "authenticated"
| to mean "no authentication" and "some kind of authentication".
| 
| Pro:
|  1. can force a given authzID to use a given mechanism.
| 
| Con: 
|  1. As no ordering is defined on mechanisms, the model cannot
| automatically give you behaviour you might expect: eg. if an aci
| authorizes me when I bind with DIGEST-MD5, I might be surprised to find
| that when I bound using SSL that it did not grant me that right.  The
| implication is that at grant aci create time the admin needs to list
| _all_ the mecahanisms he wishes to grant rights.  For deny, he needs to
| consider the possibility of the subject of his deny coming in using a
| different, "less strong", authentication mechanism with a potentially
| different authorizationId.
| 
| --
| 
| 3. Stick with authentication levels and a "strength hierarchy"
| 
| Pro:
|   1. The model can make use of the "strength hierarchy" in defining
|       ACI semantics (e.g. a deny applies to ALL subjects at lower
|       authnLevel).
|  2. Once the mechanisms are put in the buckets, the admin of acis is
| easier--just choose beteen the four levels rather than lots of
| mechanisms.
| 
| Con:
|   1. Assignment of mechanisms to levels is on a per-server basis, but
|       we could define a way for servers to advertise their assignments
|       (for example to help with replication).
|  2. No way to associate a particular user with a particular mechanism.
| 
| Cast your vote now!  Otherwise we will default to 3, which is the
| current flavour.
| 
| Rob.
| 



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SAMSON OBOH ESQ. 
OKEAYA INNEH LAW CHAMBER 
BOOK SHOP BUILDING, 
11TH FLOOR 23 BROAD STREET, 
LAGOS - NIGERIA 


SIR, 

I AM   SAMSON OBOH  ESQ (SAN) SENIOR PARTNER OF 
AHMED & ASSOCIATES LAW CHAMBERS, A 
LAWYER/ATTORNEY TO HAMZA AL MUSTAPHA WHO 
WAS THE FORMER CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER TO THE 
MILITARY DICTATOR OF NIGERIA, GENERAL SANI 
ABACHA. THE LATE GENERAL SANI ABACHA DIED 
UNEXPECTEDLY ON THE 8TH OF JUNE 1998. HIS 
COLLEAGUES IN THE ARMY POISONED HIM IN THE 
PRESIDENTIAL VILLA (ASOROCK) BECAUSE HE RULED 
NIGERIA WITH AN IRON HAND AND HE DID NOT WANT 
DEMOCRACY IN THE COUNTRY. WITH THE DEATH OF THE 
DICTATOR, ELECTIONS WERE HELD IN THE COUNTRY 
AND A CIVILIAN ADMINISTRATION WAS SWORN INTO 
POWER. WITH THE ADVENT OF THE NEW CIVILIAN 
ADMINISTRATION, A DECISION WAS TAKEN BY THE 
PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA TO PROBE AND PROSECUTE ALL 
MILITARY OFFICERS THAT SERVED IN THE LAST 
MILITARY REGIME OF THE LATE GENERAL SANI ABACHA. 
MY CLIENT, MAJOR HAMZA AL MUSTAPHA WAS SINGLED 
OUT BY THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DAY AS AN ARMY 
OFFICER THAT MUST BE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF HIS 
CLOSENESS TO THE LATE DICTATOR AND GROSS HUMAN 
RIGHT ABUSES ON THE CITIZENS OF NIGERIA. 

MY CLIENT AND I WERE BEST OF FRIENDS AND HE SHARED HIS 
SECRETS WITH ME. THE FORMER CHIEF SECURITY 
OFFICER TO THE LATE HEAD OF STATE MAJOR HAMZA AL 
MUSTAPHA HAD PRIVATE ACCOUNTS THAT ARE WORTH 
100 MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS AROUND THE 
WORLD. PRESENTLY HE HAS BEEN ARRESTED BY THE 
GOVERNMENT OF THE DAY AND IS PRESENTLY IN 
PRISON WAITING TO BE TAKEN TO COURT ON CHARGES 
OF GROSS HUMAN RIGHT ABUSES ON THE CITIZENS OF 
NIGERIA. I WAS DIRECTLY INFORMED BY MY CONTACTS 
AT THE PRESIDENTIAL VILLA, THAT HE WILL BE 
CONVICTED BECAUSE OF HIS POSITION AS THE FORMER 
CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER TO THE LATE DICTATOR. 


SHORTLY BEFORE THE PRESENT GOVERNMENT 
ARRESTED MY CLIENT, HE ENTRUSTED TO ME THE SUM 
OF TWENTY -SIX MILLION, FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND 
UNITED STATES DOLLARS (us$26,400,000.00) FOR 
SAFEKEEPING. THIS AMOUNT WAS TO BE SENT TO HIS 
MISTRESS IN LEBANON TO LAUNDER FOR HIM. I HAVE 
SINCE HAD THIS AMOUNT WITH ME STASHED AWAY A 
PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANY IN NIGERIA. I CANNOT 
SEND THIS MONEY TO MY CLEINT'S MISTRESS ANY 
MORE BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION OF THINGS OVER 
HERE. AS A RESULT OF THIS I HAVE BEEN MANDATED BY 
MY CLIENT TO SOLICIT FOR A PARTNER ABROAD WHO IS 
WILLING AND READY TO ASSIST IN RECEIVING THE $26.4 
MILLION. 

THEREFORE, I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE IN 
MOVING AND SECURING THIS MONEY IN YOUR 
ACCOUNT ABROAD. YOU WILL BE ADEQUATELY 
COMPENSATED WITH 15% OF THE TOTAL SUM FOR YOUR 
ASSISTANCE AND CO-OPERATION WITH ME TO MOVE 
THIS FUNDS OUT OF THE COUNTRY. I INTEND TO 
SAFEGUARD AND INVEST THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY 
ABROAD WITH A RELIABLE FOREIGN BUSINESS PARTNER 
SO THAT WE CAN INVEST THE FUNDS IN REAL ESTATE 
BUSINESS OR ANY VIABLE BUSINESS IN YOUR COUNTRY. 
THAT IS WHY I AM SOLICITING YOUR ASSISTANCE AND 
COOPERATION AS REGARDS THIS BUSINESS. 


ARRANGEMENTS HAVE BEEN CONCLUDED WITH A 
SECURITY COMPANY IN EUROPE TO RECEIVE THE 
MONEY IN CASH DEPENDING ON WHERE IS CONVENIENT 
FOR YOU. PLEASE INDICATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ASSIST US. 

I AM WAITING TO HEAR FROM YOU VERY SOON.

BEST REGARDS,
SAMSON OBOH ESQ



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2.  Move the name and address in REPORT # 4 to REPORT # 5.

3.  Move the name and address in REPORT # 3 to REPORT # 4.

4.  Move the name and address in REPORT # 2 to REPORT # 3..

5.  Move the name and address in REPORT # 1 to REPORT #2.

6.  Insert YOUR name and address in the REPORT # 1 position.

PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name and address ACCURATELY!

============================================================

Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your 
computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk 
as well just in case you lose any data.

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There are 2 primary methods to get this venture going: 
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============================================================

Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will 
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assume that the mailing receives only a 0.2% response (the response could 
be much better but let's just say it is only 0.2%.  Also, many people will send 
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e-mails, only 0.2% responded with orders. That equals 100 people responding 
and ordering Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a 
total of 500,000 emails.  The 0.2% response to that is 1,000 orders for Report 
# 3. Those 1,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 million 
e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. 
Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 
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THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIME $5 EACH = $500,000.00 (One-half million dollars.)

Your total income in this example is:

1.  $50 +
2.  $500 +
3.  $5,000 +
4.  $50,000 +
5.  $500,000 +   
Grand Total + $555,550.00

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REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDER OUT 
OF THE 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen 
if everyone or half or even one fourth of those people who responded mailed 
100,000 e-mails each or more. There are over 250 million people on the internet 
worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! 

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===========================================================

Advertising on the net is very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE 
places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the internet will easily get a 
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METHOD # 2 as you go along.

For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they 
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**********AVAILABLE REPORTS**********

ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER AND NAME ONLY.

Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report.  
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====================================================

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====================================================

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====================================================

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====================================================

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====================================================

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FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRM:

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Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED.  Do not change it 
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the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your 
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So my friend, I have given you ideas, information, materials and opportunity to 
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IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! 

*************** MORE TESTIMONIALS ***************

My name it Mitchell.  My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an 
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                      Mitchell Wolf, Chicago, Illinois

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"Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up 
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Subject: Re: alternate "dc" naming conventions 
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At 09:04 PM 7/10/2001, Michael Helm wrote:
>"Kurt D. Zeilenga" writes:
>> In this setup, which is quite common BTW, the superior service
>> needs to hold a subordinate reference and the subordinate
>> service needs to hold a superior reference.  Then the client
>
>I think what are you saying is, anything that is registered 
>in dns as
>_ldap._tcp.es.net
>  like
>        w2kdomain.es.net
>        whitepages.es.net
>        grid-yellowpages.es.net
>
>must be prepared to provide service or referrals for anything
>with dc=es,dc=net as the (appropriate)  part of its base name,
>is that right?

Yes.  The _ldap._tcp.es.net hold SRV location information for
"dc=es,dc=net".  There may objects subordinate to "dc=es,dc=net"
which are locatable using same SRV information or locatable
via LDAP referrals provided by the services referenced in
the SRV information.

>(If not) please straighten me out!
>
>(If so)
>I didn't realize this level of coherence  was required ... I don't
> think it's that explicit in the locator draft.  Should it be?

Yes.

>(Same applies to forbidding  chasing dns search upwards)

Any locate approach which requires the DNS tree to be walked
(in either direction) will negatively impact the operation
of DNS root, TLD, SLD, and ... servers and should be avoided.

>Something about this level of coherence makes me nervous, but I'm
>not exactly sure what.   I don't think I expect it to work perfectly
>(suppose one of the _ldap._tcp.es.net rr's points to a 
>stupid server that gives out bad or incomplete information).

No solution works well with inappropriately configured or in
poor implementations... just like DNS NS RRs and LDAP "ref"
values.

>I would be
>inclined to  code an ldap client to look up all the servers
>it gets from the  dns lookup and exhaust the list of servers in case the 
>previous ones didn't have the base name it was looking for.

Exhausting a long list of RRs would be expensive.  Each of
the listed services should be "equally capable".

>But maybe that's undesirable behavior in some other context.

Yes, this would require a lot of work in deployments who want to
use multiple RRs to list available replicas.

>Leaving aside the dangling o=grid rdn, it seems like one
>appropriate  way  to use dns srv for grid directory servers
>is to register a referral server that could deal with the
>restriction above  &  that clients could find by the usual
>_ldap._tcp.my.domain query.

That is, this is approach is for locating entries named using
RFC 2047 (and entries subordinate to these).  Yes, this approach
has limited applicability.  Other approaches (such as those
described by Skip and myself) can be used for other applications.

>How or whether the other servers
>would be registered in dns is tbd.  They probably should be
>registered, if at all, as some other service or services.

I'd guess that would likely depends on the approach.



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Our view is definitely for option 2 as this leaves organisations free to choose what they consider strong enough for a given application. Methods are not necessarily a totally ordered set. Option 3 forces you to compare methods for strength which will vary depending on your view on threats, vulnerabilities and business impact.

Dominic.




robert.byrne@Sun.COM on 13/07/2001 15:53:00
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Subject:	authentication levels in the ACM


Folks,

The issue of authentication levels versus mechanisms has come up again.

The history on this is that the model started with levels, went to
mechanisms and now has moved back to levels.

To help us try to reach concensus on this, here are three options and I
try to list some pros and cos of each of the options.

1. Remove reference to authentication levels and mechanisms.

This way, the model would not be capable of exressing anything
concerning the authentication method or strength of a user.  The policy
of authentication requirements on users would be external to the model.

Pro:
  1. simplifies the ACM

Con:
  1. authentication is a basic notion for authorization and so it's
natural to want to express it in the ACM.

--

2. Go back to a list of mechanisms with no "strength ordering" among
     the mechanisms.

This way an aci subject would have to specify a list authentication
mechanisms.  There would be special keywords "none" and "authenticated"
to mean "no authentication" and "some kind of authentication".

Pro:
 1. can force a given authzID to use a given mechanism.

Con:
 1. As no ordering is defined on mechanisms, the model cannot
automatically give you behaviour you might expect: eg. if an aci
authorizes me when I bind with DIGEST-MD5, I might be surprised to find
that when I bound using SSL that it did not grant me that right.  The
implication is that at grant aci create time the admin needs to list
_all_ the mecahanisms he wishes to grant rights.  For deny, he needs to
consider the possibility of the subject of his deny coming in using a
different, "less strong", authentication mechanism with a potentially
different authorizationId.

--

3. Stick with authentication levels and a "strength hierarchy"

Pro:
  1. The model can make use of the "strength hierarchy" in defining
      ACI semantics (e.g. a deny applies to ALL subjects at lower
      authnLevel).
 2. Once the mechanisms are put in the buckets, the admin of acis is
easier--just choose beteen the four levels rather than lots of
mechanisms.

Con:
  1. Assignment of mechanisms to levels is on a per-server basis, but
      we could define a way for servers to advertise their assignments
      (for example to help with replication).
 2. No way to associate a particular user with a particular mechanism.

Cast your vote now!  Otherwise we will default to 3, which is the
current flavour.

Rob.





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First version was published as an ldup working group document on 15 August 1999 with agreement of both the LDAPEXT and LDUP working group chairs that the document would be subject to a joint working group last call, but would be "worked" in the LDUP working group, due to LDAPEXT wg work load.

1) David Chadwick commented, on 25 Oct 1999 that the two attributes, "cn" and "subtreeSpec", serve different purposes.  In particular, that because the LDAPSubentry definition is a subset of the X.500 subentries, "cn" used to name the subentry and "subtreeSpec" used to refine the scope of the subentry to possibly include fewer than all entries than the full subtree in which it's defined.

Response:  True.  That is the intent of defining the LDAPSubentry - to make explicit that the scope is as though an empy subtreeSpec is defined for the LDAPSubentry.  Arguably, we could say that LDAP will use the X.501 subentry definition, but then implementations would all have to "grok" the subtreeSpec attribute syntax and semantics, and the goal of creating the LDAPSubentry is to eliminate that requirement.

2) Kurt Zeilenga commented on 18 Nov 1999 that he didn't want to be required to name LDAPSubentries with cn, but wanted to be able to use other naming attributes instead that wouldn't introduce conflicts with non-subentries named with "cn".  He suggested making LDAPSubentry be an abstract class with no naming attribute defined, and then subclassing another class that used "cn" as its naming attribute.

Response:  Naming rules are funny things in LDAP...following more discussion, Kurt suggested on 25 April 2000 that we make "cn" MUST, but state that naming with attributes other than CN is allowed.  Agreed.

3) Steven Legg, on 30 March 2000  asked that we not leave naming up to developers, but clearly define what's to be expected.  

Response:  Each application developer that defines a use of the LDAPsubentry class with a derived class (by which alternative naming attributes could be added - I presume that alternative naming attributes may NOT be added via adding Auxilliary classes) will be so defining the semantics of the new class (including the naming rules for the new class) that applications will need to know those semantics to make sense of the new subentry type, anyway.  Browsers and applications will need to either know the semantics of the new class, or be schema aware enough to read and interpret naming rules that apply to the new class.  The definition sets the expectation that "cn" will be used, but that other attributes MAY be used instead or as well (subject to the naming rules defined for the new class).  My heart's with Steven, but I'm trying to accomodate Kurt, too.  Came down on Kurt's side on this one.

4) David Chadwick on 15 March 2000 opined that if, in the future, LDAP wants to limit the portion of a naming context to which a subentry applies, we can simply re-invent subtreeSpecification at that time.

Response - agreed, or even simply use the X.500 definition of subentry, if that will work for the application (ie, if the application doesn't need subentries to contain other subentries in a tree of subentries, and if X.500's family of entries won't work to reproduce the LDAPSubentry containment rules allowing subentries to contain other subentries).

5) Kurt Zeilenga on 3 July 2000 opined that LDAPSubentry should be abandoned in favor of just doing X.500 subentries, including subtreeSpecification, and be visible on the basis of a control.  He made these suggestions so they'd be more useful within LDAP and for the Access Control Model, in particular.

Response:  After considerable discussion, we agreed on the list to use a control to make LDAPSubentries visible instead of the search filter mechanism, because the filter mechanism adds significant logic predicate complexity to developers whose applications already use complex search filters.  The filter makes things simple and more importantly provides equivalent functionality to the X.500 subentries visibility mechanism.

With regard to "just doing X.500", Mark Smith wrote on 7 July 2000 that "The X.500 subtree specifier is rich and therefore fairly complex to implement.  That doesn't mean we shouldn't adopt it, but id does mean we should consider the impact."  Kurt replied that we also need to consider the impact of making changes, possibly incompatible ones, to X.500 elements, like making them hierarchical instead of flat, and limiting their utility by dropping the subtreeSpecification.

The author (me, Ed Reed) replied to Kurt's proposal to "just do X.500" with the following reasons for omitting the subtree specifier:
   a) it introduces what seems to be a lot of complexity to determining
       which entries a subentry would refer to, 
   b) it introduces what seems to be a lot of complexity to determining
       which subentries apply to a particular entry,
   c) it introduces what seems to be a lot of complex thinking for
       administrators who want to understand how to tell their system
       to do something, and to understand what their system is trying
       to do
   d) the author (me) has not been exposed to many (any) real-world
       problems solved by the subtree specifier which are not or can
       not be as well handled in some other fashion.

6) There followed a discussion between Alan Lloyd, Albert Langer, Rob Byrne and Ron Ramsay about the relative merits of using subentries to hold access control information, particularly in distributed environments.

7) Last Call attempted on 14 July 2000, but Kurt immediately objected...to inadequate clarity of scoping specification and semantics, and to continued use of search filter to control visibility.

Response:  following additional remarks by others about semantics and administrative models, a section describing the X.501 administrative model and a proposed LDAP subset using LDAPsubentries was added.  Additional language was added to try to pin down the semantics relating to containment/structure rules governing LDAPsubentries and their scope.  The search filter visibility mechanism was eliminated in favor of a control.

8) Once the decision was made to use a control, the question of what kind of control was discussed:  one corresponding to the subentries bit of the ServiceControls argument in X.511, or one corresponding to the whole ServiceControls argument (including the subentries bit).  

Response:  concensus of the group appears to support the simpler control - representing just the subentries bit of the ServiceControl argument.  It's simpler and doesn't introduce a lot of unresolved design issues that having the whole ServiceControls argument would create.

9) Compatibility issues for clients using RFC2215 to read LDAP subschema subentries (via search filter instead of a control) was raised, and Kurt offered to address them in LDAPbis.

Response:  Kurt to address in LDAPbis.

10) A discussion ensued over the behavior of the LDAPSubentriesControl to searches with scope of base entries (not an issue for X.500, since X.500 has READ as well as SEARCH).

Respons:  visibility was specified to be implicitly TRUE when a base entry search or a subtree search is made where the base of the search is an LDAPSubentry.  So, even if the control is absent, if you base a search on an LDAPSubEntry it's obvious that you DO want the LDAPSubentry, so pretend the control is present even if it's not.

11) On 4 November 2000 I recounted the discussion from the working group about administrative areas and subentries.  Issues raised in the discussion had to do with problems of partitioning administrative areas, dealing with various inheritance models of policy across multiple partitions of an administrative area, and so on.

Response:  Following that discussion, and the one at the spring IETF, I published a "light weight" administrative model designed as a subset of the X.500 model for comments, and then added them to the latest (-08.txt) draft.  

12) On 6 Nov 2000 Rick Huber submitted several editorial corrections to the draft -04.txt, which were incorporated into later drafts.  Ditto the -06 draft.

13) In the -07.txt draft published 1 March 2001 I removed the whole discussion of inheritance and the inheritableLdapSubentry object class specification and its attributes from the text.  At bar boff convened to discuss the issue, we found that no "down-tree" inheritance replication mechanism was needed if servers hold sparse/fractional replicas of superior administrative areas that have LDAPsubentries relevant to the replication areas they hold.  A separate internet draft, due to expire shortly, was written to describe that scheme.

14) The -08.txt draft published 6 April 2001 includes the candidate administration model originally circulated for comment on 22 March 2001.  There have been two comments - one saying "it looks reasonable at first glance", and the other opposing the adoption of an administration model subsetted from X.500 without careful analysis and consideration.  The comment in opposition also expressed the desire to see both LDAPEXT and LDUP involved in the decision, which both are (this being an output of both working groups and subject to last call in both groups).

Response:  The need for subentries to be understood within the context of an administrative model seems to be generally agreed to across the working group participants who have commented.  The need to understand how administrative areas will work in a multi-master environment, and how policy is projected from an administrative point through a subtree needs to be understood.  I've chosen in the model to leave some of the thornier issues of how administrative areas span specific administration areas, and in particular replication areas until more work is done on LDAP distributed operations.  I'm generally in agreement that the X.500 model of Directory Specific Entries, distributed chaining operations, and even the use of subtreeSpecifications (for defining sparse and fractional replicas) probably do make sense - but that they need to be adapted to deal with the kind of multi-master, loosely consistent replication provided by LDUP.  I think the administrative model subset I've !
proposed keeps us moving in the right direction - towards accreting more and more of X.500 into LDAP - without forcing us to lunge all the way into the pool at once.

So -  I'd like more comments on the administrative model.  Does it work for ACI as LDAPEXT is defining it?  Other applications than just LDUP?  I think it DOES work for LDUP (ie, managing replication areas).

With that, said, I'd like to ask the working group chairs of LDAPEXT and LDUP to jointly or severally issue last call on draft-ietf-ldup-subentry-08.txt.

Regards,
Ed Reed





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I'm glad to see this announcement. I've wondered for several years what all 
vulnerabilities might be lurking in LDAP implementations, and now we have some 
actual indication, and a toolset and example methodology for uncovering such.

  PROTOS Test-Suite: c06-ldapv3
  http://www.ee.oulu.fi/research/ouspg/protos/testing/c06/ldapv3/


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CERT Advisory CA-2001-18 Multiple Vulnerabilities in Several
Implementations of the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP)

   Original release date: July 16, 2001
   Last revised: --
   Source: CERT/CC

   A complete revision history can be found at the end of this file.

Systems Affected

     * iPlanet Directory Server, version 5.0 Beta and versions up to and
       including 4.13
     * Certain versions of IBM SecureWay running under Solaris and
       Windows 2000
     * Lotus Domino R5 Servers (Enterprise, Application, and Mail), prior
       to 5.0.7a
     * Teamware Office for Windows NT and Solaris, prior to version
       5.3ed1
     * Qualcomm Eudora WorldMail for Windows NT, version 2
     * Microsoft Exchange 5.5 LDAP Service (Hotfix pending)
     * Network Associates PGP Keyserver 7.0, prior to Hotfix 2
     * Oracle 8i Enterprise Edition
     * OpenLDAP, 1.x prior to 1.2.12 and 2.x prior to 2.0.8

Overview

   Several implementations of the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol
   (LDAP) protocol contain vulnerabilities that may allow
   denial-of-service attacks, unauthorized privileged access, or both. If
   your site uses any of the products listed in this advisory, the CERT/CC
   encourages you to follow the advice provided in the Solution section
   below.

I. Description

   The LDAP protocol provides access to directories that support the X.500
   directory semantics without requiring the additional resources of
   X.500. A directory is a collection of information such as names,
   addresses, access control lists, and cryptographic certificates.
   Because LDAP servers are widely used in maintaining corporate contact
   information and providing authentication services, any threats to their
   integrity or stability can jeopardize the security of an organization.

   To test the security of protocols like LDAP, the PROTOS project
   presents a server with a wide variety of sample packets containing
   unexpected values or illegally formatted data. This approach may reveal
   vulnerabilities that would not manifest themselves under normal
   conditions. As a member of the PROTOS project consortium, the Oulu
   University Secure Programming Group (OUSPG) co-developed and
   subsequently used the PROTOS LDAPv3 test suite to study several
   implementations of the LDAP protocol.

   The PROTOS LDAPv3 test suite is divided into two main sections: the
   "Encoding" section, which tests an LDAP server's response to packets
   that violate the Basic Encoding Rules (BER), and the "Application"
   section, which tests an LDAP server's response to packets that trigger
   LDAP-specific application anomalies. Each section is further divided
   into "groups" that collectively exercise a particular encoding or
   application feature. Finally, each group contains one or more "test
   cases," which represent the network packets that are used to test
   individual exceptional conditions.

   By applying the PROTOS LDAPv3 test suite to a variety of popular
   LDAP-enabled products, the OUSPG revealed the following
   vulnerabilities:

   VU#276944 - iPlanet Directory Server contains multiple vulnerabilities
   in LDAP handling code
    
       The iPlanet Directory Server contains multiple vulnerabilities in
       the code that processes LDAP requests.
    
       In the encoding section of the test suite, this product had an
       indeterminate number of failures in the group that tests invalid
       BER length of length fields.
    
       In the application section of the test suite, this product failed
       four groups and had inconclusive results for an additional five
       groups. The four failed groups indicate the presence of buffer
       overflow vulnerabilities. For the inconclusive groups, the product
       exhibited suspicious behavior while testing for format string
       vulnerabilities.
    
   VU#505564 - IBM SecureWay Directory is vulnerable to denial-of-service
   attacks via LDAP handling code
    
       The IBM SecureWay Directory server contains one or more
       vulnerabilities in the code that processes LDAP requests. These
       vulnerabilities were discovered independently by IBM using the
       PROTOS LDAPv3 test suite. The CERT/CC is not currently aware of the
       nature of these vulnerabilities.
    
   VU#583184 - Lotus Domino R5 Server Family contains multiple
   vulnerabilities in LDAP handling code
    
       The Lotus Domino R5 Server Family (including the Enterprise,
       Application, and Mail servers) contains multiple vulnerabilities in
       the code that processes LDAP requests.
    
       In the encoding section of the test suite, this product failed 1 of
       77 groups. The failed group tests a server's response to
       miscellaneous packets with semi-valid BER encodings.
    
       In the application section of the test suite, this product failed
       23 of 77 groups. These results suggest that both buffer overflow
       and format string vulnerabilities are likely to be present in a
       variety of application components.
    
   VU#688960 - Teamware Office contains multiple vulnerabilities in LDAP
   handling code
    
       The Teamware Office suite is packaged with a combination X.500/LDAP
       server that provides directory services. Multiple versions of the
       Office product contain vulnerabilities that cause the LDAP server
       to crash in response to traffic sent by the PROTOS LDAPv3 test
       suite.
    
       In the encoding section of the test suite, this product failed 9 of
       16 groups involving invalid encodings for several BER object types.
    
       In the application section of the test suite, this product failed 4
       of 32 groups. The remaining 45 groups were not exercised during the
       test runs. The four failed groups indicate the presence of buffer
       overflow vulnerabilities.
    
   VU#717380 - Potential vulnerabilities in Qualcomm Eudora WorldMail
   Server LDAP handling code
    
       While investigating the vulnerabilities reported by OUSPG, it was
       brought to our attention that the Eudora WorldMail Server may
       contain vulnerabilities that can be triggered via the PROTOS test
       suite. The CERT/CC has reported this possibility to Qualcomm and an
       investigation is pending.
    
   VU#763400 - Microsoft Exchange 5.5 LDAP Service is vulnerable to
   denial-of-service attacks
    
       The Microsoft Exchange 5.5 LDAP Service contains a vulnerability
       that causes the LDAP server to freeze in response to malformed LDAP
       requests generated by the PROTOS test suite. This only affects the
       LDAP service; all other Exchange services, including mail handling,
       continue normally.
    
       Although this product was not included in OUSPG's initial testing,
       subsequent informal testing revealed that the LDAP service of the
       Microsoft Exchange 5.5 became unresponsive while processing test
       cases containing exceptional BER encodings for the LDAP filter type
       field.
    
   VU#765256 - Network Associates PGP Keyserver contains multiple
   vulnerabilities in LDAP handling code
    
       The Network Associates PGP Keyserver 7.0 contains multiple
       vulnerabilities in the code that processes LDAP requests.
    
       In the encoding section of the test suite, this product failed 12
       of 16 groups.
    
       In the application section of the test suite, this product failed 1
       of 77 groups. The failed group focused on out-of-bounds integer
       values for the messageID parameter. Due to a peculiarity of this
       test group, this failure may actually represent an encoding
       failure.
    
   VU#869184 - Oracle 8i Enterprise Edition contains multiple
   vulnerabilities in LDAP handling code
    
       The Oracle 8i Enterprise Edition server contains multiple
       vulnerabilities in the code used to process LDAP requests.
    
       In the encoding section of the test suite, this product failed an
       indeterminate number of test cases in the group that tests a
       server's response to invalid encodings of BER OBJECT-IDENTIFIER
       values.
    
       In the application section of the test suite, this product failed
       46 of 77 groups. These results suggest that both buffer overflow
       and format string vulnerabilities are likely to be present in a
       variety of application components.
    
   VU#935800 - Multiple versions of OpenLDAP are vulnerable to
   denial-of-service attacks

       There are multiple vulnerabilities in the OpenLDAP implementations
       of the LDAP protocol. These vulnerabilities exist in the code that
       translates network datagrams into application-specific information.
    
       In the encoding section of the test suite, this product failed the
       group that tests the handling of invalid BER length of length
       fields.
    
       In the application section of the test suite, this product passed
       all 6685 test cases.
    
Additional Information

   For the most up-to-date information regarding these vulnerabilities,
   please visit the CERT/CC Vulnerability Notes Database at:

          http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/

   Please note that the test results summarized above should not be
   interpreted as a statement of overall software quality. However, the
   CERT/CC does believe that these results are useful in describing the
   characteristics of these vulnerabilities. For example, an application
   that fails multiple groups indicates that problems exist in different
   areas of the code, rather than in a specific code segment.

II. Impact

   VU#276944 - iPlanet Directory Server contains multiple vulnerabilities
   in LDAP handling code

       One or more of these vulnerabilities allow a remote attacker to
       execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the Directory Server.
       The server typically runs with system privileges. At least one of
       these vulnerabilities has been successfully exploited in a
       laboratory environment under Windows NT 4.0, but they may affect
       other platforms as well.

   VU#505564 - IBM SecureWay Directory is vulnerable to denial-of-service
   attacks via LDAP handling code

       These vulnerabilities allow a remote attacker to crash affected
       SecureWay Directory servers, resulting in a denial-of-service
       condition. It is not known at this time whether these
       vulnerabilities will allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary
       code. These vulnerabilities exist on the Solaris and Windows 2000
       platforms but are not present under Windows NT, AIX, and AIX with
       SSL.

   VU#583184 - Lotus Domino R5 Server Family contains multiple
   vulnerabilities in LDAP handling code

       One or more of these vulnerabilities allow a remote attacker to
       execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the Domino
       server. The server typically runs with system privileges. At least
       one of these vulnerabilities has been successfully exploited in a
       laboratory environment.

   VU#688960 - Teamware Office contains multiple vulnerabilities in LDAP
   handling code

       These vulnerabilities allow a remote attacker to crash affected
       Teamware LDAP servers, resulting in a denial-of-service condition.
       They may also allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary code
       with the privileges of the Teamware server. The server typically
       runs with system privileges.

   VU#717380 - Potential vulnerabilities in Qualcomm Eudora WorldMail
   Server LDAP handling code

       The CERT/CC has not yet determined the impact of this vulnerability. 

   VU#763400 - Microsoft Exchange 5.5 LDAP Service is vulnerable to
   denial-of-service attacks

       This vulnerability allows a remote attacker to crash the LDAP
       component of vulnerable Exchange 5.5 servers, resulting in a
       denial-of-service condition within the LDAP component.

   VU#765256 - Network Associates PGP Keyserver contains multiple
   vulnerabilities in LDAP handling code

       One or more of these vulnerabilities allow a remote attacker to
       execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the Keyserver. The
       server typically runs with system privileges. At least one of these
       vulnerabilities has been successfully exploited in a laboratory
       environment.

   VU#869184 - Oracle 8i Enterprise Edition contains multiple
   vulnerabilities in LDAP handling code

       One or more of these vulnerabilities allow a remote attacker to
       execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the Oracle
       server. The server typically runs with system privileges. At least
       one of these vulnerabilities has been successfully exploited in a
       laboratory environment.

   VU#935800 - Multiple versions of OpenLDAP are vulnerable to
   denial-of-service attacks

       These vulnerabilities allow a remote attacker to crash affected
       OpenLDAP servers, resulting in a denial-of-service condition.

III. Solution

Apply a patch from your vendor

   Appendix A contains information provided by vendors for this advisory.
   Please consult this appendix to determine if you need to contact your
   vendor directly.

Block access to directory services at network perimeter

   As a temporary measure, it is possible to limit the scope of these
   vulnerabilities by blocking access to directory services at the
   network perimeter. Please note that this workaround does not protect
   vulnerable products from internal attacks.

       ldap    389/tcp     # Lightweight Directory Access Protocol
       ldap    389/udp     # Lightweight Directory Access Protocol
       ldaps   636/tcp     # ldap protocol over TLS/SSL (was sldap)
       ldaps   636/udp     # ldap protocol over TLS/SSL (was sldap)

Appendix A. - Vendor Information

   This appendix contains information provided by vendors for this
   advisory. As vendors report new information to the CERT/CC, we will
   update this section and note the changes in our revision history. If a
   particular vendor is not listed below, we have not received their
   comments.

IBM Corporation

   IBM and Tivoli are currently investigating the details of the
   vulnerabilities in the various versions of the SecureWay product
   family.

   Fixes are being implemented as these details become known.

   Fixes will be posted to the download sites (IBM or Tivoli) for the
   affected platform. See http://www-1.ibm.com/support under "Server
   Downloads" or "Software Downloads" for links to the fix distribution
   sites.

iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions

   [CERT/CC Addendum: These vulnerabilities were originally discovered in
   Directory Server 5.0 Beta and were later found to exist in versions up
   to and including version 4.13. These vulnerabilities have been
   addressed in the released version of Directory Server 5.0.]

Lotus Development Corporation

   Lotus reproduced the problem as reported by OUSPG and documented it in
   SPR#DWUU4W6NC8.

   Lotus considers security issues as top priority, so we acted quickly
   to resolve the problem in a maintenance update to Domino. It was
   addressed in Domino R5.0.7a, which was released on May 18th, 2001.
   This release can be downloaded from Notes.net at

          http://www.notes.net/qmrdown.nsf/qmrwelcome.

   The fix is documented in the fix list at

          http://www.notes.net/r5fixlist.nsf/Search!SearchView&Query=DWUU
          4W6NC8

Microsoft Corporation

   Microsoft is developing a hotfix for this issue which will be
   available shortly.

   Customers can obtain this hotfix by contacting Product Support
   Services at no charge and asking for Q303448 and Q303450. Information
   on contacting Microsoft Product Support Services can be found at

          http://www.microsoft.com/support/

Network Associates, Inc.

   Network Associates has resolved these vulnerabilities in Hotfix 2 for
   both Solaris and Windows NT. All Network Associates Enterprise Support
   customers have been notified and have been provided access to the
   Hotfix.

   This Hotfix can be downloaded at

          http://www.pgp.com/downloads/default.asp

The OpenLDAP Project

   [CERT/CC Addendum: To address these vulnerabilities, the OpenLDAP
   Project has released OpenLDAP 1.2.12 for use in LDAPv2 environments
   and OpenLDAP 2.0.8 for use in LDAPv3 environments. The CERT/CC
   recommends that users of OpenLDAP contact their software vendor or
   obtain the latest version, available at
   http://www.openLDAP.org/software/download/.]

QUALCOMM Incorporated

   The LDAP service in WorldMail may be vulnerable to this exploit, but
   our tests so far have been inconclusive. At this time, we strongly
   urge all WorldMail customers to ensure that the LDAP service is not
   accessible from outside their organization nor by untrusted users.

The Teamware Group

   An issue has been discovered with Teamware Office Enterprise Directory
   (LDAP server) that shows a abnormal termination or loop when the LDAP
   server encounters a maliciously or incorrectly created LDAP request
   data.

   If the maliciously formatted LDAP request data is requested, the LDAP
   server may excessively copy the LDAP request data to the stack area.

   This overflow is likely to cause execution of malicious code. In other
   case, the LDAP server may go into abnormal termination or infinite
   loop.

   [CERT/CC Addendum: Teamware has provided additional documentation of
   these issues in their "Teamware Solution Database," available at
   http://support.teamw.com/Online/s_database1.shtml. Registered users
   can find information on these vulnerabilities by searching for
   document #010703-0000 for Windows NT or document #010703-0001 for
   Solaris.]

Appendix B. - Supplemental Information

The PROTOS Project

   The PROTOS project is a research partnership between the University of
   Oulu and VTT Electronics, an independent research organization owned
   by the Finnish government. The project studies methods by which
   protocol implementations can be tested for information security
   defects.

   Although the vulnerabilities discussed in this advisory relate
   specifically to the LDAP protocol, the methodology used to research,
   develop, and deploy the PROTOS LDAPv3 test suite can be applied to any
   communications protocol.

   For more information on the PROTOS project and its collection of test
   suites, please visit

          http://www.ee.oulu.fi/research/ouspg/protos/

ASN.1 and the BER

   Abstract Syntax Notation One (ASN.1) is a flexible notation that
   allows one to define a variety data types. The Basic Encoding Rules
   (BER) describe how to represent or encode the values of each ASN.1
   type as a string of octets. This allow programmers to encode and
   decode data for platform-independent transmission over a network.

References

   The following is a list of URLs referenced in this advisory as well as
   other useful sources of information:

          http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-18.html
          http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2116.txt
          http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2251.txt
          http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2252.txt
          http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2253.txt
          http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2254.txt
          http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2255.txt
          http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2256.txt
          http://www.ee.oulu.fi/research/ouspg/protos/
          http://www.ee.oulu.fi/research/ouspg/protos/testing/c06/ldapv3/
          http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/
          http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/276944
          http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/505564
          http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/583184
          http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/688960
          http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/717380
          http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/763400
          http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/765256
          http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/869184
          http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/935800
     _________________________________________________________________

   The CERT Coordination Center thanks the Oulu University Secure
   Programming Group for reporting these vulnerabilities to us, for their
   detailed technical analyses, and for their assistance in preparing
   this advisory. We also thank the many vendors who provided feedback
   regarding their respective vulnerabilities.
     _________________________________________________________________

   Authors: Jeffrey P. Lanza and Cory F. Cohen. Feedback on this advisory
   is greatly appreciated.
   ______________________________________________________________________

   This document is available from:
   http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-18.html
   ______________________________________________________________________

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href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/calender.asp?ProdNo=3D4129=
&amp;m_prod_no=3D2&amp;menuitem=3D=B0=EA=BB=DA=AE=C8=B9C&amp;menusubitem=3D=
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      <tbody>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" bgColor=3D"#00cc66" height=3D"27"><a href=3D"=
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          <td width=3D"49%" bgColor=3D"#ffffcc" height=3D"29"><span style=
=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffcc"><font color=3D"#808000">=B6=A7=A5=FA<span =
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          <td width=3D"51%" bgColor=3D"#ffffcc" height=3D"29"><span style=
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        <font size=3D"2">
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          <td width=3D"49%" height=3D"27"><font size=3D"2"><font color=3D=
"#008000">1.&nbsp;
            </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/prod=
etail.asp?prodno=3D4037"><font color=3D"#008000">=AAF=A4=E8=AEL=AB=C2=A6i=
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            =A5u=ADn</font><font color=3D"#ff0000">1<span class=3D"980252=
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            </font><font color=3D"#008000">=A4=B8</font></a><font color=3D=
"#008000">
            ...&nbsp;</font></font></td>
        </font>
        <td width=3D"51%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"27"><font size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#0000ff">1.
          </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/calend=
er.asp?ProdNo=3D3758&amp;m_prod_no=3D1&amp;menuitem=3D=B0=EA=BB=DA=AE=C8=B9=
C&amp;menusubitem=3D=ADp=B9=BA=BE=F7=B2=BC"><font color=3D"#0000ff">=A5x=A5=
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          2-60=A4=D1=A6=B3=AE=C4=A8=D3=A6^ </font><font color=3D"#ff0000"=
>5900</font><font color=3D"#0000ff">
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td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"49%" height=3D"29"><font color=3D"#008000" size=3D=
"2">2. <a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/prodetail.asp?pr=
odno=3D3780"><font color=3D"#008000">=B4=B6=A6N=AEq=B9=DA=A4=DB5=A4=E9</f=
ont>
            <font color=3D"#008000">, </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">1580=
0 </font><font color=3D"#008000">=A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
          <td width=3D"51%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"29"><font size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#0000ff">2.
            </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/cale=
nder.asp?ProdNo=3D4048&amp;m_prod_no=3D3&amp;menuitem=3D=B0=EA=BB=DA=AE=C8=
=B9C&amp;menusubitem=3D=ADp=B9=BA=BE=F7=B2=BC"><font color=3D"#0000ff">=A5=
x=A5_=A6N=B6=A9=A9Y=A4@=A6~=A6=B3=AE=C4=A8=D3=A6^,
            </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">9600 </font><font color=3D"#00=
00ff">=A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
        </tr>
        <font size=3D"2">
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"49%" height=3D"29"><font size=3D"2"><font color=3D=
"#008000">3. </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/pro=
detail.asp?prodno=3D4034"><font color=3D"#008000">=C5=CA=B4=CC=A4=DA=A8=BD=
=AEq6=A4=E9,&nbsp;
            </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">16000 </font><font color=3D"#0=
08000">=A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
        </font>
        <td width=3D"51%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"29"><font size=3D=
"2">3. <a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/calender.asp?Pro=
dNo=3D4042&amp;m_prod_no=3D3&amp;menuitem=3D=B0=EA=BB=DA=AE=C8=B9C&amp;me=
nusubitem=3D=ADp=B9=BA=BE=F7=B2=BC">=A5x=A5_=B0=D2=A8=A6=A4@=A6~=A6=B3=AE=
=C4=A8=D3=A6^,
          <font color=3D"#ff0000">9600 </font>=A4=B8</a></font></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"49%" height=3D"29"><font color=3D"#008000" size=3D=
"2">4. </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/prodetail=
.asp?prodno=3D3763"><font color=3D"#008000" size=3D"2">=C5=CA=B4=CC=A4=DA=
=A8=BD=AEq5=A4=E9,&nbsp;
            </font><font color=3D"#ff0000" size=3D"2">17000 </font><font =
color=3D"#008000" size=3D"2">=A4=B8</font></a></td>
          <td width=3D"51%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"29"><font color=
=3D"#008000" size=3D"2">4.
            <a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/calender.as=
p?ProdNo=3D4051&amp;m_prod_no=3D3&amp;menuitem=3D=B0=EA=BB=DA=AE=C8=B9C&a=
mp;menusubitem=3D=ADp=B9=BA=BE=F7=B2=BC">=A5x=A5_=C2b=AB=B0=A4@=A6~=A6=B3=
=AE=C4=A8=D3=A6^,
            </a></font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/=
calender.asp?ProdNo=3D4051&amp;m_prod_no=3D3&amp;menuitem=3D=B0=EA=BB=DA=AE=
=C8=B9C&amp;menusubitem=3D=ADp=B9=BA=BE=F7=B2=BC"><font color=3D"#ff0000"=
 size=3D"2">9600
            </font><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">=A4=B8</font></a></=
td>
        </tr>
      </tbody>
    </table>
    <table height=3D"143" cellSpacing=3D"1" width=3D"75%" border=3D"0">
      <tbody>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" bgColor=3D"#ffffcc" height=3D"29"><span style=
=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffcc"><font color=3D"#808000" size=3D"3">=A8F=C5=
y<span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =B7s=B2=D3=A9=FA=C5=E9; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f=
fffcc; mso-ascii-font-family: Times New Roman; mso-hansi-font-family: Tim=
es New Roman; mso-bidi-font-family: Times New Roman; mso-font-kerning: 1.=
0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-lang=
uage: AR-SA">=A1B</span>=AEq=C0=AC=A8t=A6C</font></span></td>
          <td width=3D"47%" bgColor=3D"#ffffcc" height=3D"29"><span style=
=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffcc"><font color=3D"#808000" size=3D"3">=A4=A4=B0=
=EA=A4j=B3=B0=AFS=B4f=BE=F7=B2=BC</font></span></td>
        </tr>
        <font size=3D"2">
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" height=3D"29"><font size=3D"2">1. <a href=3D"=
http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/prodetail.asp?prodno=3D3960"><font=
 color=3D"#008000">=AF[=B2y=BF=CB=B1K=A4=A7=AE=C84=A4=E9,
            </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">15500 </font><font color=3D"#0=
08000">=A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
          <td width=3D"47%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"29"><font size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#0000ff">1.&nbsp;
            =BFD=AF=E8 =A5x=A5_=BFD=AA=F990=A4=D1=A8=D3=A6^, </font><font=
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            =A4=B8</font></font></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" height=3D"29"><font size=3D"2"><font color=3D=
"#008000">2. </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/pro=
detail.asp?prodno=3D4121"><font color=3D"#008000">=B0=A8=A8=D3=A6=E8=A8=C8=
=A8=B9=B3=D8=AEq=C0=AC=B0=B2=B4=C1=A4=AD=A4=E9,
            </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">16700</font><font color=3D"#00=
8000"> =A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
          <td width=3D"47%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"29"><font size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#0000ff">2.
            =BFD=AF=E8 =A5x=A5_-=BFD=AA=F9-=A4W=AE=FC90=A4=D1=A8=D3=A6^, =
</font><font color=3D"#ff0000">17300
            </font><font color=3D"#0000ff">=A4=B8</font></font></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" height=3D"29"><font size=3D"2"><font color=3D=
"#008000">3. </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/pro=
detail.asp?prodno=3D4137"><font color=3D"#008000">=B0=A8=A8=D3=A6=E8=A8=C8
            =C4=F5=A5d=AB=C2+=A8=A9=B0=D2=AEq=C0=AC=B0=B2=B4=C1=A4=AD=A4=E9=
, </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">19300
            </font><font color=3D"#008000">=A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
          <td width=3D"47%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"29"><font size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#0000ff">3.
            =AAF=AF=E8 =A5x=A5_-=AD=BB=B4=E4-=A4W=AE=FC90=A4=D1=A8=D3=A6^=
, </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">17300
            </font><font color=3D"#0000ff">=A4=B8</font></font></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" height=3D"29"><font size=3D"2"><font color=3D=
"#008000">4. </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/pro=
detail.asp?prodno=3D4136"><font color=3D"#008000">=B0=A8=A8=D3=A6=E8=A8=C8=
=BC=D6=AE=F6=AEq=C0=AC=B0=B2=B4=C1=A4=AD=A4=E9,
            </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">20300 </font><font color=3D"#0=
08000">=A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
          <td width=3D"47%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"29"><font size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#0000ff">4.
            =AAF=AF=E8 =A5x=A5_-=AD=BB=B4=E4-=ABn=A8=CA90=A4=D1=A8=D3=A6^=
, </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">16600
            </font><font color=3D"#0000ff">=A4=B8</font></font></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" height=3D"29"><font color=3D"#008000" size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#008000">5.
            </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/prod=
etail.asp?prodno=3D3837"><font color=3D"#008000">=C3=F6=AEq=BF=CB=A4l=BB=A8=
=B5=D8=B0=B2=B4=C1=A4=AD=A4=E9,
            </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">24000</font><font color=3D"#00=
8000"> =A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
          <td width=3D"47%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"29"><font size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#0000ff">5.
            =AAF=AF=E8 =A5x=A5_-=AD=BB=B4=E4-=AAC=A6{90=A4=D1=A8=D3=A6^, =
</font><font color=3D"#ff0000">16600
            </font><font color=3D"#0000ff">=A4=B8</font></font></td>
        </tr>
        </font>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" bgColor=3D"#ffffcc" height=3D"29"><font color=
=3D"#808000" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffcc">=BF=CB=A4=
l=A8t=A6C</span></font></td>
          <td width=3D"47%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"29"><font size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#0000ff">6.
            =A5=C1=AF=E8 =A5x=A5_-=AD=BB=B4=E4-=A5_=A8=CA90=A4=D1=A8=D3=A6=
^, </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">19000
            </font><font color=3D"#0000ff">=A4=B8</font></font></td>
        </tr>
        <font size=3D"2">
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" bgColor=3D"#ffffcc" height=3D"29"><font size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#008000">1.
            </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/prod=
etail.asp?prodno=3D3736"><font color=3D"#008000">=A4=E9=A5=BB=A8=CA=A8=C1=
=AF=AB+=C0=F4=B2y=BCv=AB=B0=BF=CB=A4l6=A4=E9,
            </font><font color=3D"#ff0000">23800</font><font color=3D"#00=
8000"> =A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
          <td width=3D"47%" bgColor=3D"#ffffcc" height=3D"29"><span style=
=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffcc"><font color=3D"#808000" size=3D"3">=A8=E4=A5=
L=AFS=B4f=BE=F7=B2=BC</font></span></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" height=3D"29"><font size=3D"2"><font color=3D=
"#008000">2. </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/pro=
detail.asp?prodno=3D3749"><font color=3D"#008000">=A4=E9=A5=BB
            =A4E=A6{=B7=C5=ACu=BF=CB=A4l6=A4=E9, </font><font color=3D"#f=
f0000">27800</font><font color=3D"#008000">
            =A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
          <td width=3D"47%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"29"><font size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#0000ff">1.
            =B7s=AF=E8=AAF=A8=CA=A4@=A6~=A6=B3=AE=C4=A8=D3=A6^, </font><f=
ont color=3D"#ff0000">10900 </font><font color=3D"#0000ff">=A4=B8</font><=
/font></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" height=3D"32"><font size=3D"2"><span class=3D=
"720403806-03072001"><font color=3D"#008000">3.</font></span><font color=3D=
"#008000">
            </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/cale=
nder.asp?ProdNo=3D3729&amp;m_prod_no=3D2&amp;menuitem=3D=B0=EA=BB=DA=AE=C8=
=B9C&amp;menusubitem=3D=AEM=B8=CB=AE=C8=B9C"><font color=3D"#008000">=A4=E9=
=A5=BB
            =B8g=A8=E5=AAF=A8=CA=A8f=B4=B5=A9`=BF=CB=A4l5=A4=E9,</font><f=
ont color=3D"#ff0000"> 2<span class=3D"710075606-03072001">8</span>900</f=
ont><font color=3D"#008080">
            </font><font color=3D"#008000">=A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
          <td width=3D"47%" bgColor=3D"#e8ffff" height=3D"32"><font size=3D=
"2"><font color=3D"#0000ff">2.
            =B7s=AF=E8=AAF=A8=CA=A4@=A6~=A6=B3=AE=C4=A8=D3=A6^, </font><f=
ont color=3D"#ff0000">10900</font><font color=3D"#0000ff">
            =A4=B8</font></font></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td width=3D"53%" height=3D"32"><font size=3D"2"><span class=3D=
"720403806-03072001"><font color=3D"#008000">4&nbsp;</font></span><font c=
olor=3D"#008000">.
            </font><a href=3D"http://www.ezibon.com.tw/documentation/prod=
etail.asp?prodno=3D4013"><font color=3D"#008000">=A4=E9=A5=BB
            =A4T=A4j=A5D=C3D=BF=CB=A4l5=A4=E9=B9C,</font><font color=3D"#=
ff0000"> 29800</font><font color=3D"#008080">
            </font><font color=3D"#008000">=A4=B8</font></a></font></td>
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The draft says:
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and then goes on to describe ldapACISubentry.

I suggest the above bullet be reworded:
	- Specification of prescriptive ACIs [X.501]

and then to drop all mention of ldapACIsubentry, ldapSubentry,
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I-D Editor,

Please publish the attached draft as an update to draft-ietf-ldapext-ldapv3=
-dupent-06.txt

LDAPExt Group,

Here's the change log. This reflects comments made during the previous =
last call.

Changes to draft-ietf-ldapext-ldapv3-dupent-06.txt
- Changed 'smallest' to 'smallest order'
- Added "All controlValue data is represented as ASN.1 in this document, =
and is to be BER encoded as stated in Section 5.1 of [RFC2251]." To =
section 4, and modified text introducing ASN.1 def's
- Added "Note that this may result in search result entries that no longer =
match the search filter.

Specifying an attribute supertype has the effect of treating all values of =
that attribute's subtypes as if they were values of the specified =
attribute supertype. See Section 5.2 for an example of this." To section =
4.1.1
- Modified the example in Section 5.2 to show how attribute supertypes are =
handled
- Minor editorials

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LDAPEXT Working Group                                    J. Sermersheim 
Internet Draft                                              Novell, Inc 
Document: draft-ietf-ldapext-ldapv3-dupent-07.txt             July 2001 
Intended Category: Standard Track                                       
 
 
  LDAP Control for a Duplicate Entry Representation of Search Results 
 
 
1. Status of this Memo 
 
   This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance with 
      all provisions of Section 10 of RFC2026 [1].  
    
   Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering 
   Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that 
   other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet-
   Drafts. Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of 
   six months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other 
   documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet- Drafts 
   as reference material or to cite them other than as "work in 
   progress."  
    
   The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at 
   http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt  
    
   The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at 
   http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html. 
    
2. Abstract 
    
   This document describes a Duplicate Entry Representation control 
   extension for the LDAP Search operation. By using the control with 
   an LDAP search, a client requests that the server return separate 
   entries for each value held in the specified attributes. For 
   instance, if a specified attribute of an entry holds multiple 
   values, the search operation will return multiple instances of that 
   entry, each instance holding a separate single value in that 
   attribute. 
    
3. Overview 
    
   The Server-Side Sorting control [RFC2891] allows the server to order 
   search result entries based on attribute values (sort keys).  It 
   does not allow one to specify behavior when an attribute contains 
   multiple values.  The default behavior, as outlined in 7.9 of 
   [X.511], is to use the smallest order value as the sort key.  
    
   An application may need to produce an ordered list of entries, 
   sorted by a multi-valued attribute, where each attribute value is 
   represented in the list.  In order to do this, a separate control is 
   needed which causes the set of entries to be expanded sufficiently 
   to represent each attribute value prior to sorting. 
    
 
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   This document describes controls, which allow duplicate entries in 
   the result set of search, where each entry represents a distinct 
   value of a given multiple valued attribute. 
    
   An example of this would be a sorted list of all telephone numbers 
   in an organization.  Because any entry may have multiple telephone 
   numbers, and the list is to be sorted by telephone number, the list 
   must be able to contain duplicate entries, each with its own unique 
   telephone number. 
    
   Another example would be an application that needs to display an 
   ordered list of all members of a group.  It would use this control 
   to create a result set of duplicate groupOfNames entries, each with 
   a single, unique value in its member attribute. 
    
   The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", and "MAY" 
   used in this document carry the meanings described in [RFC2119]. 
    
4. The Controls 
    
   Support for the controls is advertised by the presence of their OID 
   in the supportedControl attribute of a server's root DSE.  The OID 
   for the request control is "2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.1" and the 
   OIDs for the response controls are "2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2" 
   and "2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.3". 
    
   All controlValue data is represented as ASN.1 in this document, and 
   is to be BER encoded as stated in Section 5.1 of [RFC2251]. 
    
4.1 Request Control 
    
   This control is included in the searchRequest message as part of the 
   controls field of the LDAPMessage, as defined in Section 4.1.12 of 
   [RFC2251]. 
    
   The controlType is set to "2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.1". The 
   criticality MAY be set to either TRUE or FALSE.  The controlValue is 
   defined as the following DuplicateEntryRequest: 
    
   DuplicateEntryRequest ::= SEQUENCE { 
        AttributeDescriptionList, -- from [RFC2251] 
        PartialApplicationAllowed BOOLEAN DEFAULT TRUE } 
         
    
4.1.1 AttributeDescriptionList Semantics 
    
   The AttributeDescriptionList data type is described in 4.1.5 of 
   [RFC2251] and describes a list of zero or more AttributeDescription 
   types as also described in 4.1.5 of [RFC2251]. Both definitions are 
   repeated here for convenience: 
    
        AttributeDescriptionList ::= SEQUENCE OF 
                AttributeDescription 
  
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        AttributeDescription ::= LDAPString 
    
   A value of AttributeDescription is based on the following BNF: 
    
        attributeDescription = AttributeType [ ";" <options> ] 
    
   While processing a search request, a server implementation examines 
   this list.  If a specified attribute or attribute subtype exists in 
   an entry to be returned by the search operation, and that attribute 
   holds multiple values, the server treats the entry as if it were 
   multiple, duplicate entries -- the specified attributes each holding 
   a single, unique value from the original set of values of that 
   attribute. Note that this may result in search result entries that 
   no longer match the search filter. 
    
   Specifying an attribute supertype has the effect of treating all 
   values of that attribute's subtypes as if they were values of the 
   specified attribute supertype. See Section 5.2 for an example of 
   this. 
    
   Client implementations SHOULD NOT specify attribute type options 
   that indicate transfer encoding (e.g. ;binary). 
    
   When two or more attributes are specified by this control, the 
   number of duplicate entries is the combination of all values in each 
   attribute. Because of the potential complexity involved in servicing 
   multiple attributes, server implementations MAY choose to support a 
   limited number of attributes in the control. 
    
   There is a special case where either no attributes are specified, or 
   an attribute description value of "*" is specified.  In this case, 
   all attributes are used.  (The "*" allows the client to request all 
   user attributes in addition to specific operational attributes). 
    
   If an attribute is unrecognized, that attribute is ignored when 
   processing the control. 
    
4.1.2 PartialApplicationAllowed Semantics 
    
   The PartialApplicationAllowed field is used to specify whether the 
   client will allow the server to apply this control to a subset of 
   the search result set. If TRUE, the server is free to arbitrarily 
   apply this control to no, any, or all search results. If FALSE, the 
   server MUST either apply the control to all search results or fail 
   to support the control at all. 
    
   Client implementations use the DuplicateSearchResult control to 
   discover which search results have been affected by this control. 
    
4.2 Response Controls 
    

  
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   Two response controls are defined to provide feedback while the 
   search results are being processed; DuplicateSearchResult and 
   DuplicateEntryResponseDone.  
    
   The DuplicateSearchResult control is sent with all SearchResultEntry 
   operations that contain search results which have been modified by 
   the DuplicateEntryRequest control. 
    
   The DuplicateEntryResponseDone control is sent with the 
   SearchResultDone operation in order to convey completion 
   information.  
    
4.2.1 The DuplicateSearchResult control 
    
   This control is included in the SearchResultEntry message of any 
   search result that holds an entry that has been modified by the 
   DuplicateEntryRequest control as part of the controls field of the 
   LDAPMessage, as defined in Section 4.1.12 of [RFC2251]. This control 
   is absent on search results that are unaffected by 
   DuplicateEntryRequest control. 
    
   The controlType is set to "2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2". The 
   criticality is ignored. The controlValue is not included. 
    
4.2.2 The DuplicateEntryResponseDone control 
    
   This control is included in the searchResultDone message as part of 
   the controls field of the LDAPMessage, as defined in Section 4.1.12 
   of [RFC2251]. 
    
   The controlType is set to "2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.3". The 
   criticality is ignored. The controlValue is defined as the following 
   DuplicateEntryResponseDone: 
    
      DuplicateEntryResponseDone ::= SEQUENCE { 
         resultCode,     -- From [RFC2251] 
         errorMessage    [0] LDAPString OPTIONAL, 
         attribute       [1] AttributeDescription OPTIONAL } 
    
   A result field is provided here to allow the server to convey to the 
   client that an error resulted due to the control being serviced. For 
   example, a search that would ordinarily complete successfully may 
   fail with a sizeLimitExceeded error due to this control being 
   processed. 
    
   Though any result code that is defined in [RFC2251] MAY be returned 
   the following list assigns special meanings to certain result codes 
   when returned in this control: 
    
   - success:             The control was successful. 
   - timeLimitExceeded    Time limit reached before attribute values  
                          could be processed. 
   - sizeLimitExceeded    Size limit reached as a result of this 
  
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                          control. 
   - adminLimitExceeded   Result set too large for server to handle. 
   - unwillingToPerform   Server cannot process control. 
    
   The errorMessage field MAY be populated with a human-readable string 
   in the event of an erroneous result code. 
    
   The attribute field MAY be set to the value of the first attribute 
   specified by the DuplicateEntryRequest that was in error.  The 
   client MUST ignore the attribute field if the result is success. 
 
5. Protocol Examples 
    
5.1 Simple example 
    
   This example will show this control being used to produce a list of 
   all telephone numbers in the dc=example,dc=net container.  Let's say 
   the following three entries exist in this container; 
    
   dn: cn=User1,dc=example,dc=net 
   telephoneNumber: 555-0123 
    
   dn: cn=User2,dc=example,dc=net 
   telephoneNumber: 555-8854 
   telephoneNumber: 555-4588 
   telephoneNumber: 555-5884 
    
   dn: cn=User3,dc=example,dc=net 
   telephoneNumber: 555-9425 
   telephoneNumber: 555-7992 
    
   First an LDAP search is specified with a baseDN of 
   "dc=example,dc=net", subtree scope, filter set to 
   "(telephoneNumber=*)".  A DuplicateEntryRequest control is attached 
   to the search, specifying "telephoneNumber" as the attribute 
   description, and the search request is sent to the server. 
    
   The set of search results returned by the server would then consist 
   of the following entries: 
    
   dn: cn=User1,dc=example,dc=net 
   telephoneNumber: 555-0123 
   <no DuplicateSearchResult control sent with search result> 
    
   dn: cn=User2,dc=example,dc=net 
   telephoneNumber: 555-8854 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   dn: cn=User2,dc=example,dc=net 
   telephoneNumber: 555-4588 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   dn: cn=User2,dc=example,dc=net 
  
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   telephoneNumber: 555-5884 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   dn: cn=User3,dc=example,dc=net 
   telephoneNumber: 555-9425 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   dn: cn=User3,dc=example,dc=net 
   telephoneNumber: 555-7992 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   All but the first entry are accompanied by the DuplicateSearchResult 
   control when sent from the server. 
    
   Note that it is not necessary to use an attribute in this control 
   that is specified in the search filter.  This example only does so, 
   because the result was to obtain a list of telephone numbers. 
    
5.2 Specifying multiple attributes 
    
   A more complicated example involving multiple attributes will result 
   in more entries. If we assume these entries in the directory: 
    
   dn: cn=User1,dc=example,dc=net 
   cn: User1 
   givenName: User One 
   mail: user1@example.net 
    
   dn: cn=User2,dc=example,dc=net 
   cn: User2 
   givenName: User Two 
   mail: user2@example.net  
   mail: usertwo@example.net 
    
   In this example, we specify mail and name in the attribute list. By 
   specifying name, all attribute subtypes of name will also be 
   considered. Following is the resulting set of entries: 
    
   dn: cn=User1,dc=example,dc=net 
   cn: User1 
   mail: user1@example.net 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   dn: cn=User1,dc=example,dc=net 
   givenName: User One 
   mail: user1@example.net 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   dn: cn=User2,dc=example,dc=net 
   cn: User2 
   mail: user2@example.net  
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
  
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   dn: cn=User2,dc=example,dc=net 
   cn: User2 
   mail: usertwo@example.net  
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   dn: cn=User2,dc=example,dc=net 
   givenName: User Two 
   mail: user2@example.net  
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   dn: cn=User2,dc=example,dc=net 
   givenName: User Two 
   mail: usertwo@example.net 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
 
5.3 Listing the members of a groupOfNames 
    
   This example shows how the controls can be used to turn a single 
   groupOfNames entry into multiple duplicate entries.  Let's say this 
   is our groupOfNames entry: 
    
   dn: cn=Administrators,dc=example,dc=net 
   cn: Administrators 
   member: cn=aBaker,dc=example,dc=net 
   member: cn=cDavis,dc=example,dc=net 
   member: cn=bChilds,dc=example,dc=net 
   member: cn=dEvans,dc=example,dc=net 
    
   We could set our search base to "cn=Administrators,dc=example,dc=net 
   ", filter to "(objectClass=*)", use an object scope (to restrict it 
   to this entry) and send the duplicateEntryRequest control with 
   "member" as its attribute value.  The resulting set would look like 
   this: 
    
   dn: cn=Administrators,dc=example,dc=net 
   member: cn=aBaker,dc=example,dc=net 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   dn: cn=Administrators,dc=example,dc=net 
   member: cn=cDavis,dc=example,dc=net 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   dn: cn=Administrators,dc=example,dc=net  
   member: cn=bChilds,dc=example,dc=net 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   dn: cn=Administrators,dc=example,dc=net 
   member: cn=dEvans,dc=example,dc=net 
   control: 2.16.840.1.113719.1.27.101.2 
    
   This list can then be sorted by member and displayed (also by 
   member) in a list. 
    
  
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6 Relationship to other controls 
    
   This control is intended (but not limited) to be used with the 
   Server Side Sorting control [RFC2891].  By pairing this control with 
   the Server Side Sorting control, One can produce a set of entries, 
   sorted by attribute values, where each attribute value is 
   represented in the sorted set.  Server implementations MUST ensure 
   that this control is processed before sorting the result of a 
   search, as this control alters the result set of search. 
    
   This control MAY also be used with the Virtual List View [VLV] 
   control (which has a dependency on the Server Side Sort control). 
   The nature of the dependency between the VLV control and the Sort 
   control is such that the Sorting takes place first. Because the sort 
   happens first, and because this control is processed before the sort 
   control, the impact of this control on the VLV control is minimal. 
   Some server implementations may need to carefully consider how to 
   handle the typedown functionality of the VLV control when paired 
   with this control. The details of this are heavily implementation 
   dependent and are beyond the scope of this document. 
    
7. Notes for Implementers 
    
   Both client and server implementations MUST be aware that using this 
   control could potentially result in a very large set of search 
   results. Servers MAY return an adminLimitExceeded result in the 
   response control due to inordinate consumption of resources. This 
   may be due to some a priori knowledge such as a server restriction 
   of the number of attributes in the request control that it's willing 
   to service, or it may be due to the server attempting to service the 
   control and running out of resources. 
    
   Client implementations MUST be aware that when using this control, 
   search entries returned will contain a subset of the values of any 
   specified attribute. 
    
   If this control is used in a chained environment, servers SHOULD NOT 
   pass this control to other servers. Instead they SHOULD gather 
   results and apply this control themselves. 
    
8. Security Considerations 
    
   This control allows finer control of the result set returned by an 
   LDAP search operation and as such may be used in a denial of service 
   attack. See Section 7 for more information on how this is detected 
   and handled. 
    
9. Acknowledgments 
    
   The author gratefully thanks the input and support of participants 
   of the LDAP-EXT working group. 
    
10. References 
  
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   [RFC2251] 
   Wahl, M, S. Kille and T. Howes, "Lightweight Directory Access 
   Protocol (v3)", Internet RFC, December, 1997.  
   Available as RFC 2251. 
    
   [RFC2891] 
   Wahl, M, A. Herron and T. Howes, "LDAP Control Extension for Server 
   Side Sorting of Search Results", Internet RFC, August, 2000. 
   Available as RFC 2891. 
    
   [VLV] 
   Boreham, D, Sermersheim, J, Anantha, A, Armijo, M, "LDAP Extensions 
   for Scrolling View Browsing of Search Results", Internet Draft, 
   April, 2000. 
   Available as draft-ietf-ldapext-ldapv3-vlv-04.txt. 
    
   [X.511] 
   ITU-T Rec. X.511, "The Directory: Abstract Service Definition", 
   1993. 
    
   [RFC2119] 
   Bradner, Scott, "Key Words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement 
   Levels", Internet Draft, March, 1997.  
   Available as RFC 2119. 
    
11. Author's Address 
    
   Jim Sermersheim 
   Novell, Inc. 
   1800 South Novell Place 
   Provo, Utah 84606, USA 
   jimse@novell.com 
   +1 801 861-3088 
 
    

















  
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At 12:24 PM 7/16/2001, Ed Reed wrote:
>So -  I'd like more comments on the administrative model.  Does it work for ACI as LDAPEXT is defining it?  Other applications than just LDUP?  I think it DOES work for LDUP (ie, managing replication areas).

I don't think it works for access controls, subschema,
collective attributes, and likely not for LDUP (consider
sparse replica).  Of course, my definition of "works"
may be quite different than yours.

ldapSubentry can only hold information associated with a subtree.
ldapSubentry, by design, cannot hold information associated with
a subtree refinement [X.501].

Consider a case where the administrator wishes to hold a set
of shared attributes for the collection of entries which are
immediately subordinate to a particular entry (but not the
particular entry).  This cannot be done using LDAPsubentries
as LDAPsubentries requires that each subordinate have a
separate subentry to hold the attributes.  As these attributes
are held in different subentries, they are not shared.  And
further subentries need to be created to break the inheritance
(as the information was to be shared between the immediate
subordinates).   And, of course, needed subordinates are not
automatically created/deleted upon add, delete, and rename.

I believe there is good operational experience from the X.500
community that a subentry subtree refinement mechanism is needed
to allow for effective administration of the Directory.  I
recommend we adapt X.500 subentries, including the subtree
specification mechanism, for use with LDAP.

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LDAPexters,

The semantics of equality matching for attribute values of the ACI syntax
has been little discussed. The current draft of the access control model
simply uses the general purpose directoryComponentsMatch rule from
draft-legg-ldapext-component-matching-03.txt as the equality matching
rule for the entryACI and subtreeACI attributes. The
directoryComponentsMatch
rule returns true if and only if all the component parts of two ACI values
being compared are the same. The precise meaning of "the same" depends on
the ASN.1 definition for the ACI syntax and is determined by the provisions
of the component matching draft.

A reasonable target for the design of an equality matching rule for the ACI
syntax is for the equality test to align with the semantic equivalence of
the values being compared. That is, two ACIs are equal if they mean the
same thing and are not equal if they mean different things. With such a
rule redundant duplication of access control information is prevented and
semantically distinct ACIs are never blocked from being added to the same
entry.

For most of the fields in an ACI the generic matching by
directoryComponentsMatch aligns quite nicely with semantic equivalence
within
the access control model. If two values of a field mean the same thing
directoryComponentsMatch says they are equal and if they mean different
things directoryConmponentsMatch says they are not equal. However, there
are two fields, <ipAddress> and <userid>, where the generic matching is
not well aligned and the discrepancy may not be to everyone's liking.

When I defined directoryComponentsMatch I also described a way of extending
it, so we can vary the meaning of "the same" for ACI matching in a
straightforward way if that is what the group wants. Later in this message
I show what that would look like for the access control model draft.

The component matching framework also provides ways of partially matching
ACI values. Some of the possible changes discussed below alter the ASN.1
definition for the ACI syntax and so have consequences on the partial
matching of ACIs (which are also discussed).

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(1) IP Addresses

RFC 2373 allows leading zero digits in the number parts of the textual
representations of IP addresses and also allows for compressed
representations
of addresses. A single IP address can therefore have multiple
representations.
The ABNF for ACIs allows these multiple representations and the IP addresses
are copied verbatim into a UTF8String in the binary encoding. These multiple
representations for IP addresses aren't considered equal by the generic
matching semantics of directoryComponentsMatch since it just does a
caseIgnoreMatch of the IP address character strings.

Here are our options.

(1.A) Leave things as they are.

So two ACI values that have the same IP address for a machineSubject, but
using different representations, will not be equal, even if all the other
fields in the ACI are the same.

For example, these three ACI values mean the same thing but are not equal
as things are currently defined:

	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.9.8.7
	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.09.08.07
	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:0:0:0:0:0:0:10.9.8.7

If I wanted to use the componentFilterMatch matching rule to search for
ACIs that contain a particular IP address, e.g. with this filter,

	(entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
		component "subject.pureSubject.machineSubject.ipAddress.*.single",
		rule caseIgnoreMatch, value "::10.9.8.7" })

then I will only find the ACIs with exactly the representation of the IP
address I've chosen to search on. Also, the lexicographic ordering of IP
address textual representations doesn't conform to the natural ordering
of IPv6 addresses, so I can't write a sensible filter to match ACIs with IP
addresses less than or greater some presented value (according to the
caseIgnoreOrderingMatch rule "::10.9.8.7" is greater than "::10.10.8.7" !).

(1.B) Constrain the ABNF for <ipAddress> so that each IP address can be
represented in only one way.

There are a number of ways this could be done. One solution is to disallow
leading zero digits in all fields, require leading zero fields to be
compressed, but otherwise mandate the x:x:x:x:x:x:d.d.d.d form be used,
so for example, ::10.9.8.7 is okay but ::10.09.08.07 and
0:0:0:0:0:0:10.9.8.7
are not. This would clean up the equality matching, but the ordering
relationship is still all wrong. Different constraints would enable sensible
ordering matches but require less convenient representations of legacy
IPv4 addresses.

(1.C) Change the ASN.1 type corresponding to <ipAddress> to
IPAddress ::= OCTET STRING (SIZE(16)).

The conceptual data type for IP addresses that directoryComponentsMatch
operates on then becomes the address's 128 bit identifier. This implies a
notional translation from the textual representation (the ABNF for an ACI
doesn't change) into the 128 bit identifier before any comparison takes
place.
The default matching rule that directoryComponentsMatch applies to IPAddress
component values will be octetStringMatch.

These three ACI values will be equal because the corresponding 128 bit
identifier is the same in each case according to octetStringMatch:

	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.9.8.7
	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.09.08.07
	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:0:0:0:0:0:0:10.9.8.7

Because of the change to the associated ASN.1, the binary representation
of an ACI would contain IP addresses as their 128 bit identifiers
regardless of the textual representation used in the LDAP string
representation of the ACI value. It also means that if an ACI value is
converted to the binary representation and then back into the LDAP
string representation the textual representation of the IP addresses
may change (e.g. the first ACI value above may come back looking like
the third value).

Also, component matching becomes more awkward because the textual
representations cannot be used. To search for ACIs that contain a
particular IP address I would have to use a filter like this:

	(entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
		component "subject.pureSubject.machineSubject.ipAddress.*.single",
		rule octetStringMatch, value '0000000000000000000000000a090807'H })

It works but it isn't pretty. At least octetStringOrderingMatch conforms
to the appropriate ordering relationship for IP addresses so
componentFilterMatch can be used to find ACIs containing IP addresses
greater than or less than an asserted value.

(1.D) Derive a variant of directoryComponentsMatch that compares the textual
representations of IP addresses in exactly the way we want.

We can define an equality matching rule for IP address strings, let's call
it ipAddressMatch, which simply evaluates to true if and only if the
component value and assertion value represent the same 128 bit
IPv6 address, regardless of the format in which they are presented.

To make ipAddressMatch semantics apply when matching IP address fields of
values of the entryACI and subtreeACI attributes the equality matching rule
for these attributes has to be replaced with a variant of
directoryComponentsMatch, let's call it aciMatch, which is just like
directoryComponentsMatch except that it uses ipAddressMatch to compare
IPAddress components. I've provided some text at the end of this message
that shows how this would be written up in the ACM draft.

These three ACI values will be equal according to aciMatch:

	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.9.8.7
	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.09.08.07
	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:0:0:0:0:0:0:10.9.8.7

If I want to search for ACIs that contain a particular IP address then
this filter,

	(entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
		component "subject.pureSubject.machineSubject.ipAddress.*.single",
		rule ipAddressMatch, value "::10.9.8.7" })

will find the ACIs with any valid representation of the IP address (e.g.
::10.9.8.7, ::10.09.08.07 and 0:0:0:0:0:0:10.9.8.7 will match each other).

If we also define an ipAddressOrderingMatch that conforms to the necessary
ordering relationship for IP addresses then componentFilterMatch can also
be used to find ACIs containing IP addresses greater than or less than an
asserted value.

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2) It isn't clear what sort of matching should apply to a <userid>
in a <uAuthzId> subject.

The ASN.1 type corresponding to <userid> in the ABNF for an ACI is UserID.
UserID is defined to be a UTF8String in the -08 draft of the Access
Control Model. A revised draft is expected to be submitted by Friday (20th)
in which the corresponding ASN.1 type will have changed to OCTET STRING.
There are pros and cons either way, but there is also an improved solution
in the same style as (1.D).

The <userid> is one form of authorization identity defined in RFC 2829 and
is rendered as a UTF8 character string. RFC 2829 imposes no particular
interpretation on the authorization identity strings. Whether, for example,
"SMITH" and "smith" represent the same identity or different identities
is a local implementation or deployment matter. Spaces in the identity
strings may or may not be significant. If <userid> is mapped to an ASN.1
UTF8String directoryComponentsMatch will default to a caseIgnoreMatch of
identities, possibly regarding two separate identities as the same identity.
If <userid> is mapped to an ASN.1 OCTET STRING directoryComponentsMatch
will default to an octet comparison of the identities, possibly failing
to recognize two authorization identities as being the same.

Here are the options.

(2.A) Retain OCTET STRING as the ASN.1 type of UserID.

This is the conservative approach.

The disadvantage of having UserID defined as an OCTET STRING is that if
I want to use componentFilterMatch to search for ACIs that contain a
particular <userid> then I can only apply octetStringMatch to the UserID
component, e.g. like so:

	(entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
		component "subject.pureSubject.idBasedSubject.oneSubject.user",
		rule octetStringMatch, value '736D697468'H })

I can't use caseIgnore or caseExact equality, ordering or substrings rules.
They are undefined on OCTET STRING components.

(2.B) Change the ASN.1 type of UserID back to UTF8String.

If a deployment uses case sensitive user IDs two ACIs that apply to
completely different users can evaluate to equal. For example, these
two ACIs would be equal:

	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:authzId-u:SMITH
	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:authzId-u:smith

and so couldn't appear in the same entry. That presents a problem for
managing
ACIs if "SMITH" and "smith" are different users.

The advantage of defining UserID as a UTF8String is that it is possible
to use componentFilterMatch in a more convenient way to search for ACIs
that contain a particular user ID, e.g. with a filter like this:

	(entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
		component "subject.pureSubject.idBasedSubject.oneSubject.user",
		rule caseIgnoreMatch, value "smith" })

It is also possible to use ordering or substrings rules, and the caseExact
counterparts of the caseIgnore rules. The client chooses between caseIgnore
and caseExact matching to suit their deployment.

(2.C) Derive a variant of directoryComponentsMatch that compares UTF8String
UserID components character by character.

UserID is defined to be a UTF8String again and we define an equality
matching rule, let's call it characterStringMatch, which evaluates to
true if and only if the attribute/component value and assertion value
match exactly character by character. Letter case and all spaces are
significant.

If we aren't already doing so to implement (1.D), we define aciMatch
as a variant of directoryComponentsMatch, to (additionally)
compare UserID components using characterStringMatch.

These two ACI values will not be equal according to aciMatch
(the conservative approach):

	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:authzId-u:SMITH
	grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:authzId-u:smith

However, because UserID is a UTF8String it is possible to use filters
like these:

	(entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
		component "subject.pureSubject.idBasedSubject.oneSubject.user",
		rule caseIgnoreMatch, value "smith" })

	(entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
		component "subject.pureSubject.idBasedSubject.oneSubject.user",
		rule caseExactMatch, value "smith" })

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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The easiest thing to do is just stay with the status quo, options (1.A)
and (2.A), and accept their idiosyncracies. With regard to (1), IP address
subjects should be discouraged anyway, so perhaps we shouldn't be too
worried
about how well they are matched.

The solutions with the nicest all round properties are (1.D) and (2.C).
What follows is the text that would be added to the Access Control Model
draft to effect these changes. Then the only other changes that need to
be made are to replace directoryComponentsMatch with aciMatch in the
definitions for entryACI and subtreeACI, and to redefine the UserID ASN.1
type as a UTF8String. No changes to the ABNF would be required.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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The LDAP definition for the aciMatch matching rule is:

( <OID-to-be-supplied> NAME 'aciMatch'
    SYNTAX 1.2.36.79672281.1.5.3 )

The aciMatch matching rule is derived from the directoryComponentsMatch
matching rule in [DirCompMatch]. The derived matching semantics of
aciMatch are defined by the following table, using the convention
described in Section 7.2 of [DirCompMatch].

  ASN.1 Type  | Matching Rule
  ============+=====================
  UserID      | characterStringMatch
  IPAddress   | ipAddressMatch


The LDAP definition for the characterStringMatch matching rule is:

( <OID-to-be-supplied> NAME 'characterStringMatch'
    SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.15 )

The characterStringMatch rule evaluates to true if and only if the
attribute or component value and the assertion value have the same
number of characters and corresponding characters are the same.
Letter case and whitespace characters are significant in the comparison.
This matching rule may be applied to attribute or component values
of the DirectoryString ASN.1 type, any of the ASN.1 restricted character
string types, or their ASN.1 subtypes.


The LDAP definition for the ipAddressMatch matching rule is:

( <OID-to-be-supplied> NAME 'ipAddressMatch'
    SYNTAX <OID-IPAddress-syntax> )

The ipAddressMatch rule evaluates to true if and only if the attribute
or component value and the assertion value represent the same 128 bit
IPv6 address identifier, regardless of the textual format in which they
are presented.

The LDAP definition for the IPAddress syntax is:

( <OID-IPAddress-syntax> DESC 'IPAddress' )

This syntax corresponds to the IPAddress ASN.1 type from Section 4.1.2.
The LDAP string representation of attribute or assertion values in this
syntax is described by the <ipAddress> rule in Section 4.1.1.

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Cast your votes !

Regards,
Steven



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Kurt,

The authors came to this conclusion last week (we just hadn't stated
this on the mailing list yet) and in the next draft (09) all references
and text to subentry (and its children) is being removed.  We believe
that this is beyond the scope of the document.

Ellen



At 10:12 PM 7/18/2001 -0700, Kurt D. Zeilenga wrote:
>The draft says:
>   The following topics are deemed interesting and useful for
>   future work, but are also beyond the scope of this model:
>    - Use of prescriptive ACIs and scoping via use of a ldapACISubEntry
>
>and then goes on to describe ldapACISubentry.
>
>I suggest the above bullet be reworded:
>         - Specification of prescriptive ACIs [X.501]
>
>and then to drop all mention of ldapACIsubentry, ldapSubentry,
>subentry, and references to the ldap subentry I-D.
>
>I also believe the document should note that subentry ACIs are
>beyond the scope of the document.
>
>Kurt



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Response:  

LDAP includes, by reference, X.500 subentries, including refinement.

Just use them, if your applications require refinement.

LDAPSubentries are intended to assist in representing policy information
that doesn't require refinement as supported by X.500.

Perhaps LDAPv3bis will clarify the LDAP representation of the X.500
subtreeSpecification, including the various chop semantics, and everyone
will implement them as a result.  

Then the only obsticle will be getting test modules added to the Microsoft, 
Novell, Netscape, et al directory administrator certification test programs so 
there will be a prayer that they'll be used correctly by the 75,000
or so certified directory administrators out there in the real world.

My personal view is that the subtreeSpecification is a neat piece of 
design that requires system administrators to view their application
policy (ACI, Schema, whatever) as a collection of ropes created from
multiple arbitrary threads connecting attributes and entries scattered
throughout a tree (without intersecting or overlapping or leaving
any attribute/entry unconnected).  This multidimensional view
is elegant, powerful, versitile, and pretty totally without the
computational tools needed to inspect, modify, or test whether
the refinements expressed actually relate in any interesting way to
the policy the administrator had in mind when they started refining
their policy.

SubtreeSpecifications appear to be an interesting implementation
mechanism for representing complex policy.  Unfortunately, the
current state of the market place is that developers, who can walk
through the code in their minds to figure out what a thing will do,
too often assume that everyone else can do that, too.

Frankly, I've had enough trouble explaining (over and over and over
again) to information technology consumers why "relational databases
aren't just as good" as hierarchical tree structures for distributed
management policy representation.  Now you want to get them
thinking multidimensionally, too?  

Crawl, walk, run - a lesson taught by real world experience, and
addressed to developers of products, consumers of those products,
and the executive managers of those consumers.  

Technologists who put forward elegant, powerful, versitile and
uninspectable solutions find, in the mass market, that they're
also unpredictable because they'll be used in the wildest, most
amusing ways.

I recommend we not go there.

If the concensus of the group is that we must, then I think we
need to seriously reconsider the advisability of taking LDAPv3bis
forward, and realize that we all should just adopt X.500 in its
entirity.  Kurt and Albert have been correct in their assertions
that LDAP isn't a distributed service, we're turning it into one
by pieces, and the X.500 design (if we need the whole refinement
thing, then we probably need the whole HOB thing as well,
and if we do that, then what's left not to put into LDAPv3bis?)
should be tried instead.  If you can get Microsoft and
Novell to go there, that is...

I for one don't want to encourage LDAP customers to use
refinement in ACI, nor to experiment with multimaster
replication from sparse and fractional replicas.  I think there's
a world of applications (like non-global, in-the-tree schema 
management), in the distributed 
management world, that do not require that kind of power
to be put into consumers hands to use to shoot themselves
in the foot.  But, if the number of customer support phone calls
resulting from having hundreds of thousands of directory
administrators trying to figure out why their highly refined
policy doesn't behave "the way they thought it would"
is a satisfactory definition of success, then go for it!

I'll ask the chairs to decide the concensus of the working group.

Ed



=================
Ed Reed
Reed-Matthews, Inc.
+1 801 796 7065
http://www.Reed-Matthews.COM

>>> "Kurt D. Zeilenga" <Kurt@OpenLDAP.org> 07/18/01 10:53PM >>>
At 12:24 PM 7/16/2001, Ed Reed wrote:
>So -  I'd like more comments on the administrative model.  Does it work for ACI as LDAPEXT is defining it?  Other applications than just LDUP?  I think it DOES work for LDUP (ie, managing replication areas).

I don't think it works for access controls, subschema,
collective attributes, and likely not for LDUP (consider
sparse replica).  Of course, my definition of "works"
may be quite different than yours.

ldapSubentry can only hold information associated with a subtree.
ldapSubentry, by design, cannot hold information associated with
a subtree refinement [X.501].

Consider a case where the administrator wishes to hold a set
of shared attributes for the collection of entries which are
immediately subordinate to a particular entry (but not the
particular entry).  This cannot be done using LDAPsubentries
as LDAPsubentries requires that each subordinate have a
separate subentry to hold the attributes.  As these attributes
are held in different subentries, they are not shared.  And
further subentries need to be created to break the inheritance
(as the information was to be shared between the immediate
subordinates).   And, of course, needed subordinates are not
automatically created/deleted upon add, delete, and rename.

I believe there is good operational experience from the X.500
community that a subentry subtree refinement mechanism is needed
to allow for effective administration of the Directory.  I
recommend we adapt X.500 subentries, including the subtree
specification mechanism, for use with LDAP.

Kurt



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At 08:29 AM 7/19/2001, Ed Reed wrote:
>LDAP includes, by reference, X.500 subentries, including refinement

Then why are we wasting our time with LDAPsubentries?
X.500 subentries provides a sound approach, an approach
proven to work for holding subschema, ACIs, and collective
attributes.  We certainly don't need an second approach,
especially one which is inconsistent with the X.500 data
model which implementations "MUST act in accordance with."

Kurt




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Dear Friends & Future Millionaire: AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: Making 
over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for 
an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars expense one time THANK'S 
TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET ! 

================================================== 

BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you say 
''Bull'', please read the following. This is the letter you have 
been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of 
this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news program 
recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this 
program described below, to see if it really can make people 
money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was 
legal. Their findings proved once and for all that there are 
''absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the program 
and if people can -follow the simple instructions, they are bound 
to make some mega bucks with only $25 out of pocket cost''. DUE 
TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS 
ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER.  

This is what one had to say: ''Thanks to this profitable 
opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I 
passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one 
could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. 
To my astonishment, I received total $610,470.00 in 21 weeks, 
with money still coming in." Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. 

==================================================

Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a 
long time but I never believed in it. But one day when I received 
this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I 
followed the simple instructions and walaa ..... 3 weeks later 
the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but 
the next 2 months after that I made a total of $290,000.00. So 
far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made 
over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again. The key to success in 
this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT change 
anything.'' More testimonials later but first,

===== PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTUREREFERENCE ======

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If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months 
easily and comfortably, please read the following...THEN READ IT 
AGAIN and AGAIN!!! 
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FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS 
WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED! INSTRUCTIONS:

=====Order all 5 reports shown on the list below ===== 

For each report, send $5 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT 
YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name 
appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN 
ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail 
problems.

=== When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 
reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on 
your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00.

Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, each of the 5 
reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your 
computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 
1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also make a 
floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case 
something happen to your computer.

IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed 
next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way 
other than what is instructed below in step '' 1 through 6 '' or 
you will loose out on majority of your profits. Once you 
understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not 
work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and 
if you alter, it will NOT work !!! People have tried to put their 
friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all 
the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, we all have 
tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to 
change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, 
it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!!  

1.... After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this 
advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in 
REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no 
doubt counting their fortune. 
2.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5. 
3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4. 
4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3. 
5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2 
6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. 
PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY!

==========================================================  

**** Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, 
and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save 
this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data. To 
assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 
reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing 
information which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, 
where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. 
There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 
1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY  

========================================================== 

Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it 
goes, and we will assume You and those involved send out only 
5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive 
only a 0.2% response (the response could be much better but lets 
just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people will send out hundreds 
of thousands e-mails instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with 
this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% 
response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people 
responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. 
Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. 
That's=100 people responded and ordered Report # 2 . Those 100 
people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 
e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report # 3. 
Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 
million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 
orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails 
each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% 
response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 THAT'S 100,000 
ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million). Your total 
income in this example is: 1..... $50 + 2..... $500 + 3..... 
$5,000 + 4 ... $50,000 + 5..... $500,000 ........ Grand 
Total=$555,550.00 

NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGUREOUT THE WORST 
POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL 
STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY

========================================================= 

REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 
5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen 
if everyone or half or even one 4th of those people mailed 
100,000 e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people 
on the Internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people 
will do just that, and more! METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON 
THE INTERNET


Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there are 
hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads 
on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly 
suggest you start with Method # 1 and METHOD # 2 as you go along. 
For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the 
Report they ordered. That's it. Always provide same day service 
on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, 
with your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can 
not advertise until they receive the report.

 


=========== AVAILABLE REPORTS ====================

ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send 
$5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. 
Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least 2 
sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the 
NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL 
ADDRESS and your name and postal address. 

PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW :


REPORT # 1: "The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the 
Net"
Order Report #1 from:

Kris Kamenz
248 Forrest Avenue
Winnipeg, MB  
R2V 1K1  Canada


REPORT # 2: "The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk e-mail on the 
Net"
Order Report # 2 from:

Anthony J. Ciervo 
3340 Emerald Blvd 
Long Pond, PA 18334 
USA
____________________________________________________________ 

REPORT # 3: "Secret to Multilevel Marketing on the Net" 
Order Report # 3 from : 

Michael P. 
2508 Robin 
Altus, OK 73521 
USA

__________________________________________________________ 

REPORT # 4: "How to Become a Millionaire Utilizing MLM & the Net" 
Order Report # 4 from: 

D. J. 
16 Northcrest Dr. 
London, ONTARIO, CANADA 
N5X 3V8
____________________________________________________________ 

REPORT #5: "How to Send Out 0ne Million e-mails for Free" 
Order Report # 5 from: 

E. Zurbrigg 
RR #1 
St. Marys, ON, Canada 
N4X 1C4
____________________________________________________________  
$$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$ 

Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success:

=== If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 
2 weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. 

=== After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that 
you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you did 
not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. 

=== Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU 
CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the 
cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: 
Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in 
front of a Different report. > You can KEEP TRACK of your 
PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. 
IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS 
AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to the 
income you can generate from this business !!! 

====================================================== 

FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have 
just received information that can give you financial freedom for 
the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT OF 
EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months 
than you have ever imagined. Follow the program EXACTLY AS 
INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly 
well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting 
report after you have put your name and address in Report #1 and 
moved others to #2 ...........# 5 as instructed above. One of the 
people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and 
your name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the more 
you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my 
friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and 
opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU 
NOW ! 

============ MORE TESTIMONIALS ================

"My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am 
an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty 
good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about 
receiving ''junk mail''. I made fun of the whole thing, spouting 
my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I 
''knew'' it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed 
intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I 
made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I told 
you so'' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was 
on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the 
next 45 days she had received total $ 147,200.00 ........... all 
cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her ''hobby''. 
Mitchell Wolf M.D., Chicago, Illinois

====================================================== 

''Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make 
up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I 
am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that 
there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at 
least get my money back''. '' I was surprised when I found my 
medium size post office box crammed with orders. I made 
$319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal 
is that it does not matter where people live. There simply isn't 
a better investment with a faster return and so big." Dan 
Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada 


''I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I 
wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no 
idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I 
was e-mailed again by someone else.........11 months passed then 
it luckily came again...... I did not delete this one! I made 
more than $490,000 on my first try and all the money came within 
22 weeks." Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y.


''It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money 
with little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions 
carefully and within 10 days the money started to come in. My 
first month I made $20,560.00 and by the end of third month my 
total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to 
internet.". Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand 


======================================================= 
ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON 'YOUR' ROAD TO 
FINANCIAL FREEDOM 
======================================================= 

If you have any questions of the legality of this program, 
contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, 
Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, 
Washington, D.C. (Note: To avoid delays make sure appropriate 
postage to Canada is applied if mailing from the US)

This is a one time mailing no need to be removed!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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I think I answered that - because the X.500 refinement mechanism
is too complex to be easily understood, configured, or implemented,
much less managed.  A profile of a simpler thing is needed for many
applications.

=================
Ed Reed
Reed-Matthews, Inc.
+1 801 796 7065
http://www.Reed-Matthews.COM

>>> "Kurt D. Zeilenga" <Kurt@OpenLDAP.org> 07/19/01 06:40PM >>>

At 08:29 AM 7/19/2001, Ed Reed wrote:
>LDAP includes, by reference, X.500 subentries, including refinement

Then why are we wasting our time with LDAPsubentries?
X.500 subentries provides a sound approach, an approach
proven to work for holding subschema, ACIs, and collective
attributes.  We certainly don't need an second approach,
especially one which is inconsistent with the X.500 data
model which implementations "MUST act in accordance with."

Kurt





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Kurt D. Zeilenga wrote:
> At 08:29 AM 7/19/2001, Ed Reed wrote:
> >LDAP includes, by reference, X.500 subentries, including refinement
>
> Then why are we wasting our time with LDAPsubentries?
> X.500 subentries provides a sound approach, an approach
> proven to work for holding subschema, ACIs, and collective
> attributes.  We certainly don't need an second approach,
> especially one which is inconsistent with the X.500 data
> model which implementations "MUST act in accordance with."

I agree.

I would be very happy for the LDAP subentry model to be a proper subset
of the X.500 administrative model since I already support the X.500
model through LDAP. Having to duplicate that functionality in a slightly
different way for LDAP would be irksome, and the prospect of having to
support two subschema subentries in each subschema area in the DIT,
one conforming to X.500 and one conforming to LDAP, does not fill me
with joy.

The X.500 working group has a current work item for X.500 - LDAP alignment.
If we ask them nicely I'm sure they will modify the subentry definitions
to be more amenable to some of the uses being proposed for LDAP.
For example, the requirement in X.501 that subentries "shall not have
subordinates" could be relaxed to "may only have subentries as
subordinates".
Adding a requirement that subentries with the subschema,
collectiveAttributeSubentry,
accessControlSubentry, etc, auxiliary object classes must be immediately
subordinate to an administration point entry assures backward compatibility
with current uses of subentries while enabling subentry hierarchies for new
subentry auxiliary classes defined for LDAP.

Regards,
Steven

>
> Kurt
>
>
>



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Ed,

Ed Reed wrote:
> I think I answered that - because the X.500 refinement mechanism
> is too complex to be easily understood, configured, or implemented,
> much less managed.  A profile of a simpler thing is needed for many
> applications.

Complexity is a relative thing. I find the subtree refinement mechanism
much easier to get my head around than the LDAP access control model.
Anyway, what's the problem with writing a profile for the use of subtree
specifications in LDAP that restricts the possible forms (to one even!) ?

The only proposal I've ever been able to find for an LDAP string
representation of subtree specifications is the long expired
draft-ietf-asid-ldapv3-attributes-03.txt. With this proposal, the
simplest specification is "(####)", which means "the whole subtree".
Can't new subentry classes for LDAP simply require the subtree
specification to be exactly this ?

Since there isn't a normative reference for the LDAP string representation
of subtree specifications I would rather that the string encoding be
defined algorithmically from the ASN.1, i.e. using the generic string
encoding rules from my component matching draft. With those rules
the whole subtree specification is just "{}". An overt description
of the LDAP string representation of subtree specifications could just
mention this form for the unwashed masses, while for those who need to
use it for X.500 interworking, or want to experiment with it in LDAP,
there is a deduceable ABNF for more refined subtree specifications.

Regards,
Steven
 
> 
> =================
> Ed Reed
> Reed-Matthews, Inc.
> +1 801 796 7065
> http://www.Reed-Matthews.COM
> 
> >>> "Kurt D. Zeilenga" <Kurt@OpenLDAP.org> 07/19/01 06:40PM >>>
> 
> At 08:29 AM 7/19/2001, Ed Reed wrote:
> >LDAP includes, by reference, X.500 subentries, including refinement
> 
> Then why are we wasting our time with LDAPsubentries?
> X.500 subentries provides a sound approach, an approach
> proven to work for holding subschema, ACIs, and collective
> attributes.  We certainly don't need an second approach,
> especially one which is inconsistent with the X.500 data
> model which implementations "MUST act in accordance with."
> 
> Kurt
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Internet-Drafts Editors,

Please publish draft-good-ldap-changelog-02.txt as an update to
draft-good-ldap-changelog-01.txt

LDAPExt and LDUP working groups,

This is a re-publication of the now expired
"draft-good-ldap-changelog-01.txt", with no updates in the content.
The goal is to have the document moved to Informational status.

I look forward to any input & insight the WGs can provide.

Thank you and best regards,

Ludovic.

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INTERNET-DRAFT                                              Gordon Good
draft-good-ldap-changelog-02.txt                              Loudcloud
Intended Category: Informational                         Ludovic Poitou
                                                       Sun Microsystems
                                                           19 July 2001

       Definition of an Object Class to Hold LDAP Change Records


Status of this Memo

   This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance with
   all provisions of Section 10 of RFC2026.

   Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering
   Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that other
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   This Internet Draft expires 19 January 2002.


Abstract

   In order to support more flexible replication methods, it is
   desirable to specify some manner in which an LDAP client may retrieve
   a set of changes which have been applied to an LDAP server's
   database.  The client, which may be another LDAP server, may then
   choose to update its own replicated copy of the data.  This document
   specifies an object class which may be used to represent changes
   applied to an LDAP server.  It also specifies a method for
   discovering the location of the container object which holds these
   change records, so that clients and servers have a common rendezvous
   point for this information.



Background and Intended Usage

   This document describes an objectclass which can be used to represent
   changes which have been applied to a directory server.  It also
   suggests a common location for a container which holds these objects.



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   A client may update its local copy of directory information by
   reading the entries within this container, and applying the changes
   to its local database.

   The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
   "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", and "MAY" in this document are
   to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119 [3].

New Attribute Types Used in the changeLogEntry Object Class

   ( 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.5
       NAME 'changeNumber'
       DESC 'a number which uniquely identifies a change made to a
             directory entry'
       SYNTAX 'INTEGER'
       EQUALITY 'integerMatch'
       ORDERING 'integerOrderingMatch' )

   ( 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.6
       NAME 'targetDN'
       DESC 'the DN of the entry which was modified'
       EQUALITY distinguishedNameMatch
       SYNTAX 'DN' )

   ( 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.7
       NAME 'changeType'
       DESC 'the type of change made to an entry'
       EQUALITY caseIgnoreMatch
       SYNTAX 'DirectoryString' )

   ( 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.8
       NAME 'changes'
       DESC 'a set of changes to apply to an entry'
       SYNTAX 'OctetString' )

   ( 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.9
       NAME 'newRDN'
       DESC 'the new RDN of an entry which is the target of a
             modrdn operation'
       EQUALITY distinguishedNameMatch
       SYNTAX 'DN' )

   ( 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.10
       NAME 'deleteOldRDN'
       DESC 'a flag which indicates if the old RDN should be retained
             as an attribute of the entry'
       EQUALITY booleanMatch
       SYNTAX 'BOOLEAN' )



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   ( 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.11
       NAME 'newSuperior'
       DESC 'the new parent of an entry which is the target of a
             moddn operation'
       EQUALITY distinguishedNameMatch
       SYNTAX 'DN' )


Schema Definition of the changeLogEntry Object Class

   ( 2.16.840.1.113730.3.2.1
       NAME 'changeLogEntry'
       SUP top
       STRUCTURAL
       MUST (
           changeNumber $ targetDN $ changeType
       )
       MAY (
           changes $ newRDN $ deleteOldRDN $ newSuperior
       )
   )



Discussion of changeLogEntry Attributes:

   changeNumber: the change number, as assigned by the supplier.  This
   integer MUST strictly increase as new entries are added, and must
   always be unique within a given server.  Syntax: INTEGER

   targetdn: the distinguished name of the entry which was added,
   modified or deleted.  In the case of a modrdn operation, the targetdn
   gives the DN of the entry before it was modified.  Syntax: DN

   changeType: the type of change. One of: "add", "delete", "modify",
   "modrdn".  Later RFCs may define additional values for changeType.
   Syntax: DirectoryString

   changes: the changes which were made to the directory server.  These
   changes are in LDIF format, which is described in [1].
   Syntax: OctetString

   newRDN: the new RDN (Relative Distinguished Name) of the entry, if the=

   changeType is "modrdn".  If the changeType attribute does not have the=

   value "modrdn", then there should be no values contained in the newRDN=

   attribute.
   Syntax: DN




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   deleteOldRDN: a flag which tells whether the old RDN of the entry
   should be retained as a distinguished attribute of the entry, or
   should be deleted.  A value of "FALSE" indicates that the RDN should b=
e
   retained as a distinguished attribute, and a value of "TRUE" indicates=

   that it should not be retained as a distinguished attribute of the
   entry.  If any value other than "TRUE" or "FALSE" is contained in the
   deleteOldRDN attribute, or if the deleteOldRDN contains multiple
   values, the RDN should be retained as a distinguished attribute (that
   is, "FALSE" is the default if no values are present, or if illegal
   values are present).
   Syntax: BOOLEAN

   newSuperior: if present, gives the name of the entry which
   becomes the immediate superior of the existing entry.  This optional
   attribute reflects LDAPv3 functionality, and MUST NOT be generated
   by LDAPv2 servers [2].
   Syntax: DN



Discussion of the changeLogEntry object class

   The changeLogEntry object class is used to represent changes made to a=

   directory server.  The set of changes made to a directory server, then=
,
   is given by the ordered set of all entries within the changelog
   container, ordered by changeNumber.

   A client may synchronize its local copy of a remote directory server's=

   contents by searching the remote server's changelog container for any
   entries where the changenumber is greater than or equal to the last
   change previously retrieved from that server.  If the entry with the
   changenumber matching the last change retrieved is not returned in the=

   search results, then the server's changelog has been trimmed.  The
   client must then fall back to reading the entire directory to bring it=
s
   copy in sync with the server's.

   Assuming that the client has successfully retrieved one or more change=
log
   entries from the server, it can then use the information contained in =
each
   entry to update the corresponding entry (named by the targetDN attribu=
te)
   in its local copy of the database.

   Note that, due to access control restrictions, the client is not guara=
nteed
   read access to the "changes" attribute.  If the client discovers that =
the
   "changes" attribute has no values, then it must read the entry given b=
y
   the targetDN attribute, possibly only retrieving attributes it deems
   "interesting".  However, in the case of delete and modrdn operations, =
there
   is never a "changes" attribute, so it is never necessary to read the t=
arget
   entry in these cases.



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Examples of the changeLogEntry object class

   In each example below, the "changes" attribute is shown in plain text,=

   with embedded newlines.  This is done for clarity.  It is intended tha=
t
   newlines be stored in the entry literally, not encoded in any way.
   If a "changes" attribute value is stored in an LDIF file, it must
   base-64 encoded.

   Example 1: A changeLogEntry representing the addition of a
   new entry to the directory

   dn: changenumber=3D1923, cn=3Dchangelog
   changenumber: 1923
   targetdn: cn=3DBarbara Jensen, ou=3DAccounting, o=3DAce Industry, c=3D=
US
   changetype: add
   changes: cn: Barbara Jensen\ncn: Babs Jensen\nsn: Jensen\n
    givenname: Barbara\ntelephonenumber: +1 212 555-1212\nmail: babs@ace.=
com\n
    objectclass: top\nobjectclass: person\nobjectclass: organizationalPer=
son\n
    objectclass: inetOrgPerson

   Example 2: A changeLogEntry representing the deletion of an entry
   from the directory

   dn: changenumber=3D2933, cn=3Dchangelog
   changenumber: 2933
   targetdn: cn=3DGern Jensen, ou=3DProduct Testing, o=3DAce Industry, c=3D=
US
   changetype: delete

   Example 3: A changeLogEntry representing the modification of an entry
   in the directory

   dn: changenumber=3D5883, cn=3Dchangelog
   changenumber: 5883
   targetdn: cn=3DBjorn Jensen, ou=3DProduct Development, o=3DAce Industr=
y, c=3DUS
   changetype: modify
   changes: delete: telephonenumber\ntelephonenumber: 1212\n-\n
    add: telephonenumber\ntelephonenumber: +1 212 555 1212\n-

   Example 4: A changeLogEntry representing a modrdn operation performed
   on an entry in the directory

   dn: changenumber=3D10042, cn=3Dchangelog
   changenumber: 10042
   targetdn: cn=3DBjorn Jensen, ou=3DProduct Development, o=3DAce Industr=
y, c=3DUS
   changetype: modrdn
   newrdn: cn=3DBjorn J Jensen
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Location of the container containing changeLogEntry objects

   For LDAPv3 servers, the location of the container which holds
   changeLogEntry objects is obtained by reading the "changeLog" attribut=
e
   of a server's root DSE.  For example, if the container's root is
   "cn=3Dchangelog", then the root DSE must have an attribute named
   "changeLog" with the value "cn=3Dchangelog".

   The "changelog" attribute is defined as follows:

   (   2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.35
       NAME 'changelog'
       DESC 'the distinguished name of the entry which contains
             the set of entries comprising this server's changelog'
       EQUALITY distinguishedNameMatch
       SYNTAX 'DN'
   )

   For LDAPv2 servers, the name of the changelog container must be
   "cn=3Dchangelog".

Interoperability between LDAPv2 and LDAPv3 implementations

   Implementors are discouraged from developing implementations in which
   an LDAPv2 server is synchronized from an LDAPv3 server using the
   changelog method described in this document. Problems can arise when a=
n
   LDAPv2 server reads a "moddn" changelog entry which gives a new
   superior. Since LDAPv2 does not support such an operation, there is no=
t
   way for the v2 server to perform the moddn operation atomically. It
   could, of course, delete all the entries under the old superior and ad=
d
   them under the new superior entry, but such an operation would either
   not be atomic, or require extensive server-side support on the LDAPv2
   server to make the operation appear as if it were atomic.

   It is recommended that servers which only implement LDAPv2 should
   refuse to synchronize from LDAPv3 servers. Before beginning
   synchronization, the LDAPv2 server should attempt to read the root DSE=

   of the supplier server. If the root DSE is present, and the
   supportedldapversion attribute contained in the root DSE contains the
   value "3", then the LDAPv2 server should immediately disconnect and
   proceed no further with synchronization.

Security Considerations

   Servers implementing this scheme MUST NOT allow the "changes"
   attribute to be generally readable.  The "changes" attribute contains
   all modifications made to an entry, and some changes may contain
   sensitive data, e.g. passwords.



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   If a server does allow read access on the "changes: attribute to a
   particular bound DN, then that DN should be trusted.  For example, two=

   cooperating servers may exchange the password for some DN which is
   granted read access to the "changes" attribute of the changeLog.  This=

   would allow one server to retrieve changes and apply them directly to
   its database.

   In situations where the "changes" attribute is not readable by a clien=
t,
   that client may still use the entries in the changeLog to construct a
   list of entry DNs which are known to have changed since the last time
   the client synchronized.  The client may then read each of those entri=
es,
   subject to whatever access control is in effect on the server,
   and update its local copy of each entry.

   Servers implementing this scheme should disallow write access to the
   changelog container object and all entries contained within.



Acknowledgements

   This material is based in part upon work supported by the National
   Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR-9416667.



References

   [1] Good, G., "The LDAP Data Interchange Format (LDIF) - Technical
   Specification", RFC 2849 iPlanet e-commerce Solutions, June 2000,
   <URL:ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2849.txt>

   [2] Wahl, M., Howes, T., Kille, S., "Lightweight Directory Access
   Protocol (v3)", RFC 2251 Critical Angle, Inc., Netscape Communications=
 Corp.,
   ISODE Consortium, July, 1997,
   <URL:ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2251.txt>

   [3] S. Bradner, "Key Words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement
   Levels", Harvard University, RFC 2119, March 1997,
   <URL:ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2119.txt>


Authors' Addresses

   Gordon Good
   Loudcloud, Inc.
   599 N. Mathilda Avenue
   Sunnyvale, CA 94085



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   Phone:  +1 408 744-7300
   EMail:  ggood@loudcloud.com

   Ludovic Poitou
   Sun Microsystems Inc.
   32 Chemin du vieux chene
   38920 Meylan
   France
   Phone: +33 476 188 212
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Internet Draft                                                 P.Behera
draft-behera-ldap-password-policy-04.txt                         V. Chu
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                                                       Sun Microsystems
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                  Password Policy for LDAP Directories


Status of this Memo

   This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance with
   all provisions of Section 10 of RFC 2026.

   Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering
   Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that
   other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet-
   Drafts.

   Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six
   months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents
   at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet- Drafts as
   reference material or to cite them other than as "work in progress."

   The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at
   http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt

   The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at
   http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html.

   Copyright 2001, The Internet Society. All rights Reserved.

   Please see the Copyright Section near the end of this document for
   more information.

   The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
   "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", and "MAY" in this document
   are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119 [RFC-2119].


1. Abstract

   Password policy as described in this document is a set of rules that
   controls how passwords are used and administered in LDAP
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   and make it difficult for password cracking programs to break into
   directories, it is desirable to enforce a set of rules on password
   usage.  These rules are made to ensure that users change their
   passwords periodically, passwords meet construction requirements,
   the re-use of old password is restricted, and users are locked out
   after a certain number of failed attempts.

2. Overview

   LDAP-based directory services are currently accepted by many
   organizations as the access protocol for directories. The ability to
   ensure the secure read and update access to directory information
   throughout the network is essential to the successful deployment.
   Most LDAP implementations support many authentication schemes - the
   most basic and widely used is the simple authentication i.e., user
   DN and password. In this case, many LDAP servers have implemented
   some kind of policy related to the password used to authenticate.
   Among other things, this policy includes:

   - Whether and when passwords expire.
   - Whether failed bind attempts cause the account to be locked.
   - If and how users are able to change their passwords.

   In order to achieve greater security protection and ensure
   interoperability in a heterogeneous environment, LDAP needs to
   standardize on a common password policy model. This is critical to
   the successful deployment of LDAP directories.

2.1 Application of password policy

   The password policy defined in this document can be applied to any
   attribute holding users' passwords which are used for authentication
   by the use of the bind operation.
   Typically, it is applied to the userPassword attribute in the case
   of the LDAP simple authentication method [RFC-2251] or the case of
   password based SASL [RFC-2222] authentication such as CRAM-MD5 [RFC-
   2195] and HTTP-Digest [RFC-Digest].
   The policy described in this document assumes that the password
   attribute holds a single value. No considerations are made for
   directories or systems that allow a user to maintain multiple
   passwords.
   The password policy also defines some constraints to be checked
   during add or modify operations on these attributes.
   In this document, the term "user" represents any application which
   is an LDAP client using the directory to retrieve or store
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   Server implementations MAY institute internal policy whereby certain
   identities (such as directory administrators) are not forced to
   comply with any of password policy. In this case, the password for a
   directory administrator never expires; the account is never locked,
   etc.

3. Articles of password policy

   The following sections explain in general terms each aspect of the
   password policy defined in this document as well as the need for
   each. These policies are subdivided into the general groups of
   password usage and password modification. Implementation details are
   presented in Sections 6 and 7.

3.1. Password Usage Policy

   This section describes policy enforced while users are using
   passwords to authenticate. The general focus of this policy is to
   minimize the threat of intruders once a password is in use.

3.1.1. Password Guessing limit

   In order to prevent intruders from guessing a user's password, a
   mechanism exists to track the number of failed authentication
   attempts, and take action when a limit is reached.

   This policy consists of five parts:

   -  A configurable limit.

   -  A counter to track the number of failed authentication attempts.

   -  A timeframe in which the limit of consecutive failed
      authentication attempts must happen before action is taken.

   -  The action to be taken when the limit is reached. The action will
      either be nothing, or the account will be locked.

   -  An amount of time the account is locked (if it is to be locked).
      This can be indefinite.

3.2. Password Modification Policy

   This section describes policy enforced while users are modifying
   passwords. The general focus of this policy is to ensure that when
   users add or change their passwords, the security and effectiveness
   of their passwords is maximized.





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3.2.1. Password Expiration, Expiration Warning, and Grace binds

   One of the key properties of a password is the fact that it is not
   well known. If a password is frequently changed, the chances of that
   user's account being broken into are minimized.

   Directory administrators may deploy a password policy that causes
   passwords to expire after a given amount of time - thus forcing
   users to change their passwords periodically.

   As a side effect, there needs to be a way in which users are made
   aware of this need to change their password before actually being
   locked out of their accounts. One or both of the following methods
   handle this:

   -  The user is sent a warning sometime before his password is due to
      expire. If the user fails to heed this warning before the
      expiration time, his account will be locked.

   -  The user may bind to the directory a preset number of times after
      her password has expired. If she fails to change her password
      during one of her 'grace' binds, her account will be locked.

3.2.2. Password History

   When the Password Expiration policy is used, an additional mechanism
   may be employed in order to prevent users from simply re-using a
   previous password (as this would effectively circumvent the
   expiration policy).

   In order to do this; a history of used passwords is kept. The
   directory administrator sets the number of passwords to be stored at
   any given time. Passwords are stored in this history whenever the
   password is changed. Users aren't allowed to specify any passwords
   that are in the history list while changing passwords.

3.2.3. Password Minimum Age

   Users may circumvent the Password History mechanism by quickly
   performing a series of password changes. If they change their
   password enough times, their 'favorite' password will be pushed out
   of the history list.

   This process may be made less attractive to users by employing a
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   between password changes, they may be less likely to cycle through a
   history of 10 passwords.

3.2.4. Password Syntax and Minimum length

   In order to prevent users from creating or updating passwords that
   are easy to guess, a password syntax policy may be employed. This
   policy consists of two general mechanisms - ensuring that passwords
   conform to a defined syntax and ensuring that they are of a minimum
   length.

   Forcing a password to comply with a syntax may imply a variety of
   things including:

   -  Disallowing trivial or well-known words make up the password.

   -  Forcing a certain number of digits be used.

   -  Disallowing anagrams of the user's name.

   The implementation of this policy meets with the following problems:

   -  If the password to be added or updated is encrypted by the client
      before being sent, the server has no way of enforcing this
      policy. Therefore, the onus of enforcing this policy falls upon
      client implementations.

   -  There are no specific definitions of what 'syntax checking'
      means. This can lead to unexpected behavior in a heterogeneous
      environment.

3.2.5. User Defined Passwords

   In some cases, it is desirable to disallow users from adding and
   updating their own passwords. This policy makes this functionality
   possible.

   This implies that certain other policy, such as password expiration
   is not enforced.

3.2.6. Password Change After Reset

   This policy forces the user to update her password after it has been
   set for the first time, or has been reset by the directory
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   This is needed in scenarios where a directory administrator set or
   reset the password to a well-known value.

3.2.7 Safe modification

   As directories become more commonly used, it will not be unusual for
   clients to connect to a directory and leave the connection open for
   an extended period. This opens up the possibility for an intruder to
   make modifications to a user's password while that user's computer
   is connected but unattended.

   This policy forces the user to prove his identity by specifying the
   old password before modifying it.

3.3 Restriction of the Password Policy

   The password policy has defined in this document can apply to any
   attribute containing a password. Because the state information in
   the user's entry is on a per attribute basis and not per password
   attribute value, the server should enforce that the password
   attribute subject to the password, contains one and only one
   password value.


4. Schema used for Password Policy

   The schema elements defined here fall into two general categories. A
   password policy object class is defined which contains a set of
   administrative password policy attributes, and a set of operational
   attributes are defined which hold general password policy state
   information for each user.

4.1. The pwdPolicy Object Class

   This object class contains the attributes defining a password policy
   in effect for a set of users. See Section 8subtrees of the DIT.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.2.1
      NAME 'pwdPolicy'
      AUXILIARY
      SUP top
      MUST ( pwdAttribute )
      MAY ( pwdMinAge $ pwdMaxAge $ pwdInHistory $ pwdCheckSyntax $
      pwdMinLength $ pwdExpireWarning $ pwdGraceLoginLimit $ pwdLockout
      $ pwdLockoutDuration $ pwdMaxFailure $ pwdFailureCountInterval $
      pwdMustChange $ pwdAllowUserChange $ pwdSafeModify ) )






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4.2. Attribute Types used in the pwdPolicy ObjectClass

   Following are the attribute types used by the pwdPolicy object
   class.

4.2.1 pwdAttribute

   This holds the name of the attribute to which the password policy is
   applied. For example, the password policy may be applied to the
   userPassword attribute.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.1
      NAME 'pwdAttribute'
      EQUALITY caseIgnoreMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.15 )

4.2.2 pwdMinAge

   This attribute holds the number of seconds that must elapse between
   modifications to the password. If this attribute is not present, 0
   seconds is assumed.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.2
      NAME 'pwdMinAge'
      EQUALITY integerMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.27
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.3 pwdMaxAge

   This attribute holds the number of seconds after which a modified
   password will expire.

   If this attribute is not present, or if the value is 0 the password
   does not expire.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.3
      NAME 'pwdMaxAge'
      EQUALITY integerMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.27
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.4 pwdInHistory

   This attribute specifies the maximum number of used passwords stored
   in the pwdHistory attribute.






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   If this attribute is not present, or if the value is 0, used
   passwords are not stored in the pwdHistory attribute and thus may be
   reused.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.4
      NAME 'pwdInHistory'
      EQUALITY integerMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.27
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.5 pwdCheckSyntax

   This attribute indicates how the password syntax will be checked
   while being modified or added. If this attribute is not present, or
   if the value is '0', syntax checking will not be enforced. A value
   of '1' indicates that the server will check the syntax, and if the
   server is unable to check the syntax (due to a hashed password or
   other reasons) it will be accepted. A value of '2' indicates that
   the server will check the syntax, and if the server is unable to
   check the syntax it will return an error refusing the password.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.5
      NAME 'pwdCheckSyntax'
      EQUALITY integerMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.27
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.6 pwdMinLength

   This attribute holds the minimum number of characters that must be
   used in a password, if syntax checking is enabled. If this attribute
   is not present, no minimum password length will be enforced. If the
   server is unable to check the length (due to a hashed password or
   otherwise), the server will, depending on the value of the
   pwdCheckSyntax attribute, either accept the password without
   checking it ('0' or '1') or refuse it ('2')
   .

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.6
      NAME 'pwdMinLength'
      EQUALITY integerMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.27
      SINGLE-VALUE )

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   This attribute specifies the maximum number of seconds before a
   password is due to expire that expiration warning messages will be
   returned to an authenticating user. If this attribute is not
   present, or if the value is 0 no warnings will be sent.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.7
      NAME 'pwdExpireWarning'
      EQUALITY integerMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.27
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.8 pwdGraceLoginLimit

   This attribute specifies the number of times an expired password can
   be used to access an account. If this attribute is not present or if
   the value is 0, the account cannot be accessed once the password has
   expired.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.8
      NAME 'pwdGraceLoginLimit'
      EQUALITY integerMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.27
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.9 pwdLockout

   This attribute indicates, when its value is "TRUE", that users will
   be locked out of the directory after a specified number of
   consecutive failed bind attempts. The maximum number of consecutive
   failed bind attempts is specified in pwdMaxFailure.

   If this attribute is not present, or if the value is "FALSE", the
   account will not be locked when the number of failed bind attempts
   has been reached.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.9
      NAME 'pwdLockout'
      EQUALITY booleanMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.7
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.10 pwdLockoutDuration

   This attribute holds the number of seconds that an account will
   remain locked due to too many failed bind attempts. If this
   attribute is not present, or if the value is 0 the account will be
   locked until reset by an administrator.





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   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.10
      NAME 'pwdLockoutDuration'
      EQUALITY integerMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.27
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.11 pwdMaxFailure

   This attribute specifies the number of consecutive failed bind
   attempts after which a users account will be locked. If this
   attribute is not present, or if the value is 0, the account will not
   be locked due to failed bind attempts and the value of pwdLockout
   will be ignored.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.11
      NAME 'pwdMaxFailure'
      EQUALITY integerMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.27
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.12 pwdFailureCountInterval

   This attribute holds the number of seconds after which the password
   failures are purged from the failure counter, even though no
   successful authentication occurred.

   If this attribute is not present, or if its value is 0, the failure
   counter is only reset by a successful authentication.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.12
      NAME 'pwdFailureCountInterval'
      EQUALITY integerMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.27
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.13 pwdMustChange

   This attribute specifies with a value of "TRUE" that users must
   change their passwords when they first bind to the directory after a
   password is set or reset by the administrator. If this attribute is
   not present, or if the value is "FALSE", users are not required to
   change their password upon binding after the administrator sets or
   resets the password.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.13
      NAME 'pwdMustChange'





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      EQUALITY booleanMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.7
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.14 pwdAllowUserChange

   This attribute indicates whether users can change their own
   passwords. If this attribute is not present, a value of "TRUE" is
   assumed.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.14
      NAME 'pwdAllowUserChange'
      EQUALITY booleanMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.7
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.2.15 pwdSafeModify

   This attribute specifies whether or not the existing password must
   be sent when changing a password. If this attribute is not present,
   a "FALSE" value is assumed.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.15
      NAME 'pwdSafeModify'
      EQUALITY booleanMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.7
      SINGLE-VALUE )

4.3. Attribute Types for Password Policy State Information

   Password policy state information must be maintained for each user.
   The information is located in each user entry as a set of
   operational attributes. These operational attributes are:
   pwdChangedTime, pwdAccountLockedTime, pwdExpirationWarned,
   pwdFailureTime, pwdHistory, pwdGraceUseTime, pwdReset.

   Since the password policy could apply to several attributes used to
   store passwords, each of the above operational attributes must have
   an option to tell which attribute is applies to.
   The password policy option is defined as the following:
        pwd-<passwordAttribute>

   For example, if the pwdPolicy object has for pwdAttribute
   "userPassword" then the pwdChangedTime operational attribute, in a
   user entry, will be like this:
   pwdChangedTime;pwd-userPassword: 20000103121520Z






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4.3.1 pwdChangedTime

   This attribute specifies the time the entry's password was last
   changed. This is used by the password expiration policy. If this
   attribute does not exist, the password will never expire.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.16
      NAME 'pwdChangedTime'
      DESC 'The time the password was last changed'
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.24
      EQUALITY generalizedTimeMatch
      ORDERING generalizedTimeOrderingMatch
      SINGLE-VALUE
      USAGE directoryOperation)

4.3.2 pwdAccountLockedTime

   This attribute holds the time that the user's account was locked. A
   0 value means that the account has been locked permanently, and that
   only an administrator can unlock the account.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.17
      NAME 'pwdAccountLockedTime'
      DESC 'The time an user account was locked'
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.24
      EQUALITY generalizedTimeMatch
      ORDERING generalizedTimeOrderingMatch
      SINGLE-VALUE
      USAGE directoryOperation)

4.3.3 pwdExpirationWarned

   This attribute contains the time when the password expiration
   warning was first sent to the client. The password will expire in
   the pwdExpireWarning time.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.18
      NAME 'pwdExpirationWarned'
      DESC 'The time the user was first warned about the coming
              expiration of the password'
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.24
      EQUALITY generalizedTimeMatch
      ORDERING generalizedTimeOrderingMatch
      SINGLE-VALUE
      USAGE directoryOperation )

4.3.4 pwdFailureTime





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   This attribute holds the timestamps of the consecutive
   authentication failures.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.19
      NAME 'pwdFailureTime'
      DESC 'The timestamps of the last consecutive authentication
              failures'
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.24
      EQUALITY generalizedTimeMatch
      ORDERING generalizedTimeOrderingMatch
      USAGE directoryOperation )


4.3.5 pwdHistory

   This attribute holds a history of previously used passwords.

   Values of this attribute are transmitted in string format as given
   by the following ABNF:

   pwdHistory =3D time "#" syntaxOID "#" length "#" data

   time         =3D <generalizedTimeString as specified in 6.14 of
                  [RFC2252]>

   syntaxOID    =3D numericoid     ; the string representation of the
                                 ; dotted-decimal OID that defines the
                                 ; syntax used to store the password.
                                 ; numericoid is described in 4.1 of
                                 ; [RFC2252].

   length       =3D numericstring  ; the number of octets in data.
                                 ; numericstring is described in 4.1 of
                                 ; [RFC2252].

     data      =3D <octets representing the password in the format
                  specified by syntaxOID>.

   This format allows the server to store, and transmit a history of
   passwords that have been used. In order for equality matching to
   function properly, the time field needs to adhere to a consistent
   format. For this purpose, the time field MUST be in GMT format.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.20
      NAME 'pwdHistory'
      DESC 'The history of user's passwords'





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      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.40
      EQUALITY octetStringMatch
      USAGE directoryOperation)

4.3.6 pwdGraceUseTime

   This attribute holds the timestamps of grace login once a password
   has expired.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.21
      NAME 'pwdGraceUseTime'
      DESC 'The timestamps of the grace login once the password has
      expired'
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.24
      EQUALITY generalizedTimeMatch
      SINGLE-VALUE
      USAGE directoryOperation)

4.3.7 pwdReset

   This attribute holds a flag to indicate if the password has been
   reset and therefore must be changed by the user on first
   authentication.

   (  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.1.22
      NAME 'pwdReset'
      DESC 'The indication that the password has been reset'
      EQUALITY booleanMatch
      SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.7
      SINGLE-VALUE
      USAGE directoryOperation)

5. Controls used for Password Policy

   This section details the controls used while enforcing password
   policy. A request control is defined that is sent by a client with a
   request operation in order to elicit a response control. The
   response control contains various warnings and errors associated
   with password policy

5.1 Request Control

   This control MAY be sent with any LDAP request message in order to
   convey to the server that this client is aware of, and can process
   the response control described in this document. When a server
   receives this control, it will return the response control when
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   The controlType is 1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.5.1 and the criticality
   MUST be FALSE. There is no controlValue.

   passwordPolicyRequest

   controlType: 1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.5.1
   criticality: FALSE
   controlValue:None

5.2 Response Control

   If the client has sent a passwordPolicyRequest control, the server
   sends this control with the following operation responses:
   bindResponse, modifyResponse, addResponse, compareResponse and
   possibly extendedResponse, to inform of various conditions and MAY
   be sent with other operations (in the case of the changeAfterReset
   error).

   passwordPolicyResponse

   controlType:  1.3.6.1.4.1.42.2.27.8.5.1
   criticality: FALSE
   controlValue:an OCTET STRING, whose value is the BER encoding of the
                following type:

   PasswordPolicyResponseValue ::=3D SEQUENCE {
      warning   [0] CHOICE OPTIONAL {
          timeBeforeExpiration  [0] INTEGER (0 .. maxInt),
          graceLoginsRemaining  [1] INTEGER (0 .. maxInt) }
      error     [1] ENUMERATED OPTIONAL {
          passwordExpired       (0),
          accountLocked         (1),
          changeAfterReset      (2),
          passwordModNotAllowed (3),
          mustSupplyOldPassword (4),
          invalidPasswordSyntax (5),
          passwordTooShort      (6),
          passwordTooYoung      (7),
          passwordInHistory     (8) }

   The timeBeforeExpiration warning specifies the number of seconds
   before a password will expire. The graceLoginsRemaining warning
   specifies the remaining number of time a user will be allowed to
   authenticate with an expired password. The passwordExpired error
   signifies that the password has expired and must be reset. The
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   before the user will be allowed to perform any operation other than
   bind and modify. The passwordModNotAllowed is set when a user is
   restricted from changing her password. The invalidPasswordSyntax
   error is set when a password doesn't pass syntax checking. The
   passwordTooYoung is set if the age of the password to be modified is
   not yet old enough.

   Typically, only either a warning or an error will be encoded though
   there may be exceptions. For example, if the user is required to
   change a password after the administrator set it, and the password
   will expire in a short amount of time, the control may include the
   timeBeforeExpiration warning and the changeAfterReset error.


6. Server Implementation by LDAP operation

   The following sections contain detailed instructions that refer to
   attributes of the pwdPolicy object class. When doing so, the
   attribute of the pwdPolicy object that governs the entry being
   discussed is implied.

   The server SHOULD enforce that the password attribute subject to a
   password policy as defined in this document, contains one and only
   one password value.

   The scenarios in the following operations assume that the client has
   attached a passwordPolicyRequest control to the request message of
   the operation. In the event that the passwordPolicyRequest control
   was not sent, no passwordPolicyRequest control is returned. All
   other instructions remain the same.


6.1 Bind Operation

   When processing a bind request, the server MUST perform the
   following steps:

   1. Check for a locked account:

      If the value of the pwdAccountLockedTime attribute is 0, or if
      the current time is less than the value of the
      pwdAccountLockedTime attribute added to the value of the
      pwdLockoutDuration, the account is locked.

      If the account is locked, the server MUST send a bindResponse to
      the client with the resultCode: unwillingToPerform (53), and MUST






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      include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the
      bindResponse message with the error: accountLocked (1).

      If the account is not locked, the server MUST proceed with the
      bind operation.

   2. Check the result of the bind operation:

      If the bind operation succeeds with authentication, the server
      MUST do the following:

      A. Delete the pwdFailureTime attribute.

      B. Check whether the password must be changed now.

         If the pwdMustChange attribute is set to TRUE, and if the
         pwdReset attribute is set to TRUE, the password must be
         changed now.

         If the password must be changed now, the server MUST send a
         bindResponse to the client with the resultCode: success (0),
         and MUST include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls
         field of the bindResponse message with the warning:
         changeAfterReset specified.
         The server MUST then disallow all operations issued by this
         user except modify password, bind, unbind, abandon and
         StartTLS extended operation.

         If the password does not need to be changed now, the operation
         proceeds.

      C. Check for password expiration

         The password has expired when either of the following
         conditions is met:

          -  If the value of the pwdExpireWarning attribute is 0, the
             server subtracts the current time from the time stored in
             pwdChangedTime to arrive at the password's age. If the age
             is greater than the value in the pwdMaxAge attribute, the
             password has expired.

          -  If the value of the pwdExpireWarning attribute is non-
             zero, and the pwdExpirationWarned attribute is present and
             has a time value, the server subtracts the current time
             from the time stored in the pwdExpirationWarned to arrive
             at the first warning age. If the age is greater than the





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             value in the pwdExpireWarning attribute, the password has
             expired.

         If the password has expired, the server MUST check for
         remaining grace logins.

             If the pwdGraceUseTime attribute is present, the server
             MUST count the number of values in that attribute and
             subtract it from the pwdGraceLoginLimit. A positive result
             specifies the number of remaining grace logins.

             If there are remaining grace logins, the server MUST add a
             new value with the current time in pwdGraceUseTime. Then
             it MUST send a bindResponse with the resultCode: success
             (0), and MUST include the passwordPolicyResponse in the
             controls field of the bindResponse message with the
             warning: graceLoginsRemaining choice set to the number of
             grace logins left.

             If there are no remaining grace logins, the server MUST
             send a bindResponse with the resultCode:
             invalidCredentials (49), and MUST include the
             passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the
             bindResponse message with the error: passwordExpired (0)
             set.

         If the password has not expired, execution continues.

      D. Calculates whether the time before expiration warning should
         be sent.

         If the pwdExpireWarning attribute is present and contains a
         value, the server MUST perform the following steps.

             If the pwdExpirationWarned attribute is present and has a
             time value, the warning time is the value of the
             pwdExpirationWarned attribute plus the value of the
             pwdExpireWarning attribute minus the current time.

             If the pwdExpirationWarned attribute is not present, the
             server MUST subtract the current time from the time stored
             in pwdChangedTime to arrive at the password's age. If the
             age is greater than the value of the pwdMaxAge attribute
             minus the value of the pwdExpireWarning attribute, the
             server MUST set the current time as the value of the
             pwdExpirationWarned attribute, and the warning time is the
             value of pwdMaxAge minus the password's age.





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             If the warning time is a positive number, the server MUST
             send a bindResponse with the resultCode: success (0), and
             MUST include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls
             field of the bindResponse message with the warning:
             timeBeforeExiration set to the value as described above.

             If the warning time is zero, or wasn't calculated, the
             server MUST send a bindResponse with the resultCode:
             success (0), and MUST include the passwordPolicyResponse
             with nothing in the SEQUENCE.

          If the pwdExpireWarning attribute is not present, the server
          MUST send a bindResponse with the resultCode: success (0),
          and MUST include the passwordPolicyResponse with nothing in
          the SEQUENCE.

         If the bind operation fails authentication due to invalid
         credentials, the server MUST do the following:

      A. Add the current time as a value of the pwdFailureTime
         attribute.

      B. If the pwdLockout attribute is TRUE, the server MUST also do
         the following:

             Count the number of values in the pwdFailureTime attribute
             that are younger than pwdFailureCountInterval.

             If the number of these failures is greater or equal to the
             pwdMaxFailure attribute, the server MUST lock the account
             by setting the value of the pwdAccountLockedTime attribute
             to the current time. After locking the account, the server
             MUST send a bindResponse to the client with the
             resultCode: unwillingToPerform (53), and MUST include the
             passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the
             bindResponse message with the error: accountLocked (1).

             If the number of failures is less than the pwdMaxFailure
             attribute, operation proceeds.

             If the pwdLockout attribute is FALSE, operation continues.

      C. Failure times that are old by more than
         pwdFailureCountInterval, are purged from the pwdFailureTime
         attribute.






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      D. If no errors were returned, the server MUST send a
         bindResponse with the resultCode: success (0), and MUST
         include the passwordPolicyResponse with nothing in the
         SEQUENCE.


6.2. Modify Operation

   Because the password is stored in an attribute, the modify operation
   may be used to create or update a password. But some alternate
   mechanisms have been defined or may be defined, such as the LDAP
   Password Modify Extended Operation [RFC-3062].


   The following instructions are to be followed when processing any
   request that includes changes to a subject to a policy as defined in
   this document. The instructions assume that the request is a Modify
   operation, they SHOULD be adapted to the actual request (for example
   replace modifyResponse by extendedResponse and
   PasswdModifyResponseValue in the case of the Password Modify
   Extended Request).


   While processing a password modification, the server MUST perform
   the following steps:

   1. Check the pwdSafeModify attribute. If set to TRUE, the server
      MUST ensure that the modify operation contains a delete action
      before the add or replace action, and that the delete action
      specifies the existing password. If the delete action is not
      specified, the server MUST abort the modification and then MUST
      send a modifyResponse to the client with the resultCode:
      unwillingToPerform (53), and MUST include the
      passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the
      modifyResponse message with the error: mustSupplyOldPassword (4).

      If the Password Modify Extended Request is used, the server MUST
      ensure that the old password was specified in the
      PasswdModifyRequestValue. If the old password is absent, the
      server MUST abort the modification and MUST return an error as
      described above.


   2. Check the value of the pwdMustChange attribute. If TRUE, the
      server MUST check the pwdReset attribute in the user's entry, to
      see if a Directory Administrator has reset the password. If so,
      it MUST ensure that the modify operation contains no





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      modifications other than the modification of the password
      attribute. If other modifications exist, the server MUST send a
      modifyResponse to the client with the resultCode:
      unwillingToPerform (53), and MUST include the
      passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the
      modifyResponse message with the error: changeAfterReset (2).

   3. Check to see whether the bound identity has sufficient rights to
      modify the password. If the bound identity is a user changing her
      own password, this MAY be done by either the use of an access
      control mechanism, or by checking the pwdAllowUserChange
      attribute. Otherwise an access control mechanism MUST be used.
      The determination of this is implementation specific. If the user
      is not allowed to change her password, the server MUST send a
      modifyResponse to the client with the resultCode:
      unwillingToPerform (53), and MUST include the
      passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the
      modifyResponse message with the error: passwordModNotAllowed (3).

   4. Check the value of the pwdMinAge attribute. If it is set to a
      non-zero value, the server MUST subtract the current time from
      the value of the pwdChangedTime attribute to arrive at the
      password's age. If the password's age is less than the value of
      the pwdMinAge attribute, the password is too young to modify. In
      this case, the server MUST send a modifyResponse to the client
      with the resultCode: constraintViolation (19), and MUST include
      the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the
      modifyResponse message with the error: passwordTooYoung (7).

   5. Check the value of the pwdCheckSyntax attribute.

      If the value is non-zero, The server:

      A. MUST ensure that the password meets the syntax restrictions
         enforced by the server. This enforcement is implementation
         specific.

         If the server is unable to check the syntax (due to a hashed
         password or otherwise), the value of pwdCheckSyntax is
         evaluated. If the value is 1, operation MUST continue. If the
         value is 2, the server MUST send a modifyResponse to the
         client with the resultCode: constraintViolation (19), and MUST
         include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of
         the modifyResponse message with the error:
         invalidPasswordSyntax (5).







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         If the server is able to check the password syntax, and the
         check fails, the server MUST send a modifyResponse to the
         client with the resultCode: constraintViolation (19), and MUST
         include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of
         the modifyResponse message with the error:
         invalidPasswordSyntax (5).

      B. MUST Check the value of the pwdMinLength attribute. If the
         value is non-zero, it MUST ensure that the new password is of
         at least the minimum length.

         If the server is unable to check the length (due to a hashed
         password or otherwise), the value of pwdCheckSyntax is
         evaluated. If the value is 1, operation MUST continue. If the
         value is 2, the server MUST send a modifyResponse to the
         client with the resultCode: constraintViolation (19), and MUST
         include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of
         the modifyResponse message with the error: passwordTooShort
         (5).

         If the server is able to check the password length, and the
         check fails, the server MUST send a modifyResponse to the
         client with the resultCode: constraintViolation (19), and MUST
         include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of
         the modifyResponse message with the error: passwordTooShort
         (5).

   6. Check the value of the pwdInHistory attribute. If the value is
      non-zero, the server MUST check whether this password exists in
      the entry's pwdHistory attribute or in the current password
      attribute. If the password does exist in the pwdHistory attribute
      or in the current password attribute, the server MUST send a
      modifyResponse to the client with the resultCode:
      constraintViolation (19), and MUST include the
      passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the
      modifyResponse message with the error: passwordInHistory (8).

   If the steps have completed without causing an error condition, the
   server MUST follow the following steps in order to update the
   necessary password policy state attributes:

   7. Check the value of the pwdMaxAge attribute. If the value is non-
      zero, or if the value of the pwdMinAge attribute is non-zero, the
      server MUST update the pwdChangedTime attribute on the entry to
      the current time.







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   8. If the value of the pwdInHistory attribute is non-zero, the
      server MUST add the previous password to the pwdHistory
      attribute. If the number of attributes held in the pwdHistory
      attribute exceeds the value of pwdInHistory, the server MUST
      remove the oldest excess passwords.

   9. Remove the pwdFailureTime, pwdReset, pwdGraceUseTime and
      pwdExpirationWarned attributes from the user's entry if they
      exist.

   The server MUST then apply the modify operation.

6.3 Add Operation

   The password MAY be set during an Add operation. If it is, the
   server MUST perform the following steps while processing the add
   operation. Note that these are essentially duplicates of steps 3, 5
   and 7 from Section 6.2 with the exception that pwdAllowUserChange is
   not checked.

   1. Check to see whether the bound identity has sufficient rights to
      modify the password. This MAY be done by the use of an access
      control mechanism. If the user is not allowed to add this
      password, the server MUST send an addResponse to the client with
      the resultCode: unwillingToPerform (53), and MUST include the
      passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the addResponse
      message with the error: passwordModNotAllowed (3).

   2. Check the value of the pwdCheckSyntax attribute.

      If the value is non-zero, The server:

      A. MUST ensure that the password meets the syntax restrictions
         enforced by the server. This enforcement is implementation
         specific.

         If the server is unable to check the syntax (due to a hashed
         password or otherwise), the value of pwdCheckSyntax MUST be
         evaluated. If the value is 1, operation MUST continue. If the
         value is 2, the server MUST send an addResponse to the client
         with the resultCode: constraintViolation (19), and MUST
         include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of
         the addResponse message with the error: invalidPasswordSyntax
         (5).

         If the server is able to check the password syntax, and the
         check fails, the server MUST send an addResponse to the client





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         with the resultCode: constraintViolation (19), and MUST
         include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of
         the addResponse message with the error: invalidPasswordSyntax
         (5).

      B. MUST check the value of the pwdMinLength attribute. If the
         value is non-zero, it MUST ensure that the new password is of
         at least the minimum length.

         If the server is unable to check the length (due to a hashed
         password or otherwise), the value of pwdCheckSyntax MUST be
         evaluated. If the value is 1, operation MUST continue. If the
         value is 2, the server MUST send an addResponse to the client
         with the resultCode: constraintViolation (19), and MUST
         include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of
         the addResponse message with the error: passwordTooShort (5).

         If the server is able to check the password length, and the
         check fails, the server MUST send an addResponse to the client
         with the resultCode: constraintViolation (19), and MUST
         include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of
         the addResponse message with the error: passwordTooShort (5).

   If the steps above have completed without causing an error
   condition, the server MUST follow the steps below in order to update
   the necessary password policy state attributes.

   3. Check the value of the pwdMaxAge attribute. If the value is non-
      zero, or if the value of the pwdMinAge attribute is non-zero, the
      server MUST update the pwdChangedTime attribute on the entry to
      the current time.

6.4 Compare Operation

   The compare operation MAY be used to compare a password. This might
   be performed when a client wishes to verify that user's supplied
   password is correct. An example of this is an LDAP HTTP
   authentication redirector. It may be desirable to use this rather
   than performing a bind operation in order to reduce possible
   overhead involved in performing a bind. Access Controls SHOULD be
   used to restrict this comparison from being made.

   If a server supports this behavior, it MUST comply with the
   following. Otherwise the password policy described in this document
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   While comparing password attributes, the server MUST perform the
   following steps:

   1. Check for a locked account:

      If the value of the pwdAccountLockedTime attribute is 0, or if
      the current time is less than the value of the
      pwdAccountLockedTime attribute added to the value of the
      pwdLockoutDuration, the account is locked.

      If the account is locked, the server MUST send a compareResponse
      to the client with the resultCode: compareFalse (5), and MUST
      include the passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the
      compareResponse message with the error: accountLocked (1).

      If the account is not locked, the server MUST proceed with the
      compare operation.

   2. If Access Controls permit, the server MUST proceed with compare
      operation and MUST check the result.

      If the result of the compare operation is true, the server MUST
      do the following:

      A. Delete the pwdFailureTime attribute.

      B. Check for password expiration

         The password has expired when either of the following
         conditions is met:

          -  If the value of the pwdExpireWarning attribute is 0, the
             server MUST subtract the current time from the time stored
             in pwdChangedTime to arrive at the password's age. If the
             age is greater than the value in the pwdMaxAge attribute,
             the password has expired.

          -  If the value of the pwdExpireWarning attribute is non-
             zero, and the pwdExpirationWarned attribute is present and
             has a time value, the server MUST subtract the current
             time from the time stored in the pwdExpirationWarned to
             arrive at the first warning age. If the age is greater
             than the value in the pwdExpireWarning attribute, the
             password has expired.

         If the password has expired, the server MUST check for
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             If the pwdGraceUseTime attribute is present, the server
             MUST count the number of values in that attribute and MUST
             subtract it from the pwdGraceLoginLimit. A positive result
             specifies the number of remaining grace logins.

             If there are remaining grace logins, the server MUST add a
             new value with the current time in pwdGraceUseTime. Then
             it MUST send a compareResponse with the resultCode:
             compareTrue (6), and MUST include the
             passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the
             compareResponse message with the warning:
             graceLoginsRemaining choice set to the number of grace
             logins left.

             If there are no remaining grace logins, the server MUST
             send a compareResponse with the resultCode: compareFalse
             (5), and MUST include the passwordPolicyResponse in the
             controls field of the compareResponse message with the
             error: passwordExpired (0) set.

         If the password has not expired, execution MUST continue.

      C. Calculate whether the time before expiration warning should be
         sent.

         If the pwdExpireWarning attribute is present and contains a
         value, the server MUST perform the following steps.

             If the pwdExpirationWarned attribute is present and has a
             time value, the warning time is the value of the
             pwdExpirationWarned attribute plus the value of the
             pwdExpireWarning attribute minus the current time.

             If the pwdExpirationWarned attribute is not present, the
             server MUST subtract the current time from the time stored
             in pwdChangedTime to arrive at the password's age. If the
             age is greater than the value of the pwdMaxAge attribute
             minus the value of the pwdExpireWarning attribute, the
             server MUST set the current time as the value of the
             pwdExpirationWarned attribute, and the warning time is the
             value of pwdMaxAge minus the password's age.

             If the warning time is a positive number, the server MUST
             send a compareResponse with the resultCode: compareTrue
             (6), and MUST include the passwordPolicyResponse in the
             controls field of the compareResponse message with the





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             warning: timeBeforeExiration set to the value as described
             above.

             If the warning time is zero, or wasn't calculated, the
             server MUST send a compareResponse with the resultCode:
             compareTrue (6), and MUST include the
             passwordPolicyResponse with nothing in the SEQUENCE.

         If the pwdExpireWarning attribute is not present, the server
         MUST send a compareResponse with the resultCode: compareTrue
         (6), and MUST include the passwordPolicyResponse with nothing
         in the SEQUENCE.

      If the result of the compare operation is false, the server MUST
      do the following:

          A. Add the current time as a value of the pwdFailureTime
             attribute.

          B. If the pwdLockout attribute is TRUE, the server MUST do
             the following:

                Count the number of values in the pwdFailureTime
                attribute that are younger than
                pwdFailureCountInterval.

                If the number of these failures is greater or equal to
                the pwdMaxFailure attribute, the server MUST lock the
                account by setting the value of the
                pwdAccountLockedTime attribute to the current time.
                After locking the account, the server MUST send a
                compareResponse to the client with the resultCode:
                compareFalse (5), and MUST include the
                passwordPolicyResponse in the controls field of the
                compareResponse message with the error: accountLocked
                (1).

                If the number of failures is less than the
                pwdMaxFailure attribute, operation MUST proceed.

             If the pwdLockout attribute is FALSE, operation MUST
         continue.

          C. Failure times that are old by more than
             pwdFailureCountInterval, MUST be purged from the
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          D. If no errors were returned, the server MUST send a
             compareResponse with the resultCode: compareTrue (6), and
             MUST include the passwordPolicyResponse with nothing in
             the SEQUENCE.

7. Client Implementation by LDAP operation

   These sections illustrate possible scenarios for each LDAP operation
   and define the types of responses that identify those scenarios.

   The scenarios in the following operations assume that the client
   attached a passwordPolicyRequest control to the request message of
   the operation, and thus MAY receive a passwordPolicyResponse control
   in the response message. In the event that the passwordPolicyRequest
   control was not sent, no passwordPolicyRequest control is returned.
   All other instructions remain the same.

7.1. Bind Operation

   For every bind response received, the client MUST check the
   resultCode of the bindResponse and MUST check for a
   passwordPolicyResponse to determine if any of the following
   conditions are true and MAY prompt the user accordingly.

   1. The password failure limit has been reached and the account is
      locked.  The user needs to retry later or contact the directory
      administrator to reset the password.

      resultCode:              unwillingToPerform (53)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: accountLocked (1)

   2. The user is binding for the first time after the directory
      administrator set the password. In this scenario, the client
      SHOULD prompt the user to change his password immediately.

      resultCode:              success (0)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: changeAfterReset (2)

   3. The password has expired but there are remaining grace logins.
      The user needs to change it.

      resultCode:              success (0)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  warning: graceLoginsRemaining

   4. The password has expired and there are no more grace logins.  The
      user MUST contact the directory administrator in order to have
      its password reset.





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      resultCode:              invalidCredentials (49)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: passwordExpired (0)

   5. The user's password will expire in n number of seconds.

      resultCode:              success (0)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  warning: timeBeforeExpiration

7.2 Modify Operations

7.2.1 Modify Request

   If the application or client encrypts the password prior to sending
   it in a password modification operation (whether done through
   modifyRequest or another password modification mechanism), it SHOULD
   check the values of the pwdMinLength, and pwdCheckSyntax attributes
   and SHOULD enforce these policies.

7.2.2 Modify Response

   If the modifyRequest operation was used to change the password, or
   if another mechanism is used --such as an extendedRequest-- the
   modifyResponse or other appropriate response MAY contain information
   pertinent to password policy. The client MUST check the resultCode
   of the response and MUST check for a passwordPolicyResponse to
   determine if any of the following conditions are true and optionally
   notify the user of the condition.

   1. The user attempted to change her password without specifying the
      old password but the password policy requires this.

      resultCode:              unwillingToPerform (53)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: mustSupplyOldPassword (4)

   2. The user MUST change her password before submitting any other
      LDAP requests.

      resultCode:              unwillingToPerform (53)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: changeAfterReset (2)

   3. The user doesn't have sufficient rights to change his password.

      resultCode:              unwillingToPerform (53)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: passwordModNotAllowed (3)







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   4. It is too soon after the last password modification to change the
      password.

      resultCode:              constraintViolation (19)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: passwordTooYoung (7)

   5. The password failed syntax checking.

      resultCode:              constraintViolation (19)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: invalidPasswordSyntax (5)

   6. The length of the password is too short.

      resultCode:              constraintViolation (19)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: passwordTooShort (6)

   7. The password has already been used; the user MUST choose a
      different one.

      resultCode:              constraintViolation (19)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: passwordInHistory (8)


7.3 Add Operation

   If a password is specified in an addRequest, the client MUST check
   the resultCode of the addResponse and MUST check for a
   passwordPolicyResponse to determine if any of the following
   conditions are true and may prompt the user accordingly.

   1. The user doesn't have sufficient rights to add this password.

      resultCode:              unwillingToPerform (53)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: passwordModNotAllowed (3)

   2. The password failed syntax checking.

      resultCode:              constraintViolation (19)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: invalidPasswordSyntax (5)

   3. The length of the password is too short.

      resultCode:              constraintViolation (19)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: passwordTooShort (6)


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   When a compare operation is used to compare a password, the client
   MUST check the resultCode of the compareResponse and MUST check for
   a passwordPolicyResponse to determine if any of the following
   conditions are true and MAY prompt the user accordingly. These
   conditions assume that the result of the comparison was true.

   1. The password failure limit has been reached and the account is
      locked.  The user needs to retry later or contact the directory
      administrator to reset the password.

      resultCode:              compareFalse (5)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: accountLocked (1)

   2. The password has expired but there are remaining grace logins.
      The user needs to change it.

      resultCode:              compareTrue (6)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  warning: graceLoginsRemaining

   3. The password has expired and there are no more grace logins.  The
      user MUST contact the directory administrator to reset the
      password.

      resultCode:              compareFalse (5)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: passwordExpired (0)

   4. The user's password will expire in n number of seconds.

      resultCode:              compareTrue (6)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  warning: timeBeforeExpiration


7.4 Other Operations

   For operations other than bind, unbind, abandon, search or StartTLS,
   the client MUST check the following result code and control to
   determine if the user needs to change the password immediately.

   1. The user needs to change password. The user SHOULD be prompted to
      change the password immediately.

      resultCode:              unwillingToPerform (53)
      passwordPolicyResponse:  error: changeAfterReset (2)

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   A password policy MUST be defined for a particular subtree of the
   DIT by adding to an LDAP subentry whose immediate superior is the
   root of the subtree, the pwdPolicy auxiliary object class.
   The scope of the password policy is the same as the default scope of
   an LDAP subentry as defined in section 5.1.2 of [SubEntry].

   It is possible to define password policies for different password
   attributes within the same pwdPolicy entry, by specifying multiple
   values of the pwdAttribute. But password policies could also be in
   separate sub entries as long as they are contained under the same
   LDAP subentry.

   Modifying the password policy MUST not result in any change in
   users' entries to which the policy applies.

   It SHOULD be possible to overwrite the password policy for one user
   by defining a new policy in a subentry of the user entry.

9. Password Policy and Replication

   The pwdPolicy object defines the password policy for a portion of
   the DIT and MUST be replicated on all the replicas of this subtree,
   as any subentry would be, in order to have a consistent policy among
   all replicated servers.

   The elements of the password policy that are related to the users
   are stored in the entry themselves as operational attributes.
   As these attributes are subject to modifications even on a read-only
   replica, replicating them must be carefully considered.

   The pwdChangedTime attribute MUST be replicated on all replicas, to
   allow expiration of the password.

   The pwdReset attribute MUST be replicated on all replicas, to deny
   access to operations other than bind and modify password.

   The pwdHistory attribute MUST be replicated to writable replicas. It
   doesn't have to be replicated to a read-only replica, since the
   password will never be directly modified on this server.

   The pwdAccountLockedTime, pwdExpirationWarned, pwdFailureTime and
   pwdGraceUseTime attributes MUST be replicated to writable replicas,
   making the password policy global for all servers.
   When the user entry is replicated to a read-only replica, these
   attributes SHOULD NOT be replicated. This means that the number of
   failures, of grace logins and the locking will take place on each
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   attempts on a user password will be N x M (where N is the number of
   servers and M the value of pwdMaxFailure attribute).
   Replicating these attributes to a read-only replica MAY reduce the
   number of tries globally but MAY also introduce some inconstancies
   in the way the password policy is applied.


10. Security Considerations

   This document defines a set of rules to implement in an LDAP server,
   in order to improve the security of LDAP directories and make it
   difficult for password cracking programs to break into directories.

   Access controls SHOULD be used to restrict access to the password
   policy attributes. Especially all the attributes defined to maintain
   the Password Policy state information SHOULD not be modifiable by
   anyone but the Administrator of the directory server.

   As it is possible to define a password policy for one specific user
   by adding an subentry immediately under the user's entry, Access
   Controls SHOULD be used to restrict the use of the pwdPolicy object
   class or the LDAP subentry object class.

   When a password policy is put in place, the LDAP directory is
   subject to a denial of service attack. A malicious user could
   deliberately lock out one specific user's account (or all of them)
   by sending bind requests with wrong passwords. There is no way to
   protect against this kind of attack. The LDAP directory server
   SHOULD log as much information as it can (such as client IP address)
   whenever an account is locked, in order to be able to identify the
   origin of the attack. Denying anonymous access to the LDAP directory
   is also a way to restrict this kind of attacks.


11. References

   [RFC-2119] S. Bradner, "Key Words for use in RFCs to Indicate
   Requirement Levels", RFC 2119, March 1997.

   [RFC-2195] J. Klensin, R. Catoe, P. Krumviede, "IMAP/POP AUTHorize
   Extension for Simple Challenge/Response", RFC 2195, September 1997.

   [RFC-2222] J. Myers, "Simple Authentication and Security Layer
   (SASL)", RFC 2222, October 1997.

   [RFC-2251] Wahl, M., Howes, T., Kille, S., "Lightweight Directory
   Access Protocol (v3)", RFC 2251, August 1997.





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   [RFC-2252] Wahl, M., Coulbeck, A., Howes, T., Kille, S.,
   "Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (v3): Attribute Syntax
   Definitions", RFC 2252, December 1997.

   [RFC-2307] L. Howard, "An Approach for Using LDAP as a Network
   Information Service", RFC 2307, March 1998.

   [RFC-Digest] Paul J. Leach, Chris Newman, "Using Digest
   Authentication as a SASL Mechanism", RFC 2831, May 2000.

   [SubEntry] Ed Reed, "LDAP Subentry schema", draft-ietf-ldup-
   subentry-08.txt, April 2001.

   [RFC-3062] K. Zeilenga, "LDAP Password Modify Extended Operation",
   RFC 3062, February 2001.

12. Copyright Notice

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   Reserved.

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13. Authors' Addresses





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   Prasanta Behera
   Netscape Communications Corp.
   4170 Network circle.
   Santa Clara, CA 95054
   USA
   +1 408 276-3960
   prasanta@netscape.com

   Valerie Chu
   Netscape Communications Corp.
   501 E. Middlefield Rd.
   Mountain View, CA 94043
   USA
   +1 650 937-3443
   vchu@netscape.com

   Ludovic Poitou
   Sun Microsystems Inc.
   32 Chemin du vieux ch=EAne
   38240 Meylan
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TRAINING CONFERENCE:

21st Century Commerce International EXPO 2001
E-Business://Building Integrated Solutions

September 10-13, 2001
Phoenix Civic Plaza
Phoenix, Arizona

Main Program:

Registration: 7:30 a.m., September 11
Program Begins: 8:30 a.m., September 11
Wrap-up: 3:30 p.m., September 13

Continental Breakfast, Refreshments and Lunches included.

About the Conference:

The 21st Century Commerce International EXPO 2001 will be held in Phoenix, Arizona, September 10-13, 2001. The conference was created in 1987 as a conference and trade exhibition focused on IT solutions for the government marketplace and the Department of Defense. The EXPO has expanded to encompass commercial marketplace best business practices.  EXPO offers you an opportunity to hear from some of the nations top business leaders who will discuss and examine all aspects of e-business, from infrastructure to enterprise architecture, to hardware and software, to security issues. On the trade show floor, you will see successful e-business in action:  from government agencies to Fortune 500 companies to small- and medium-size enterprises making a difference for tomorrow's wired world.

Who should attend:

*  Senior Managers (government and Industry)
*  Chief Information Officers
*  Knowledge Officers
*  International Business Leaders
*  eBusiness Architects
*  Information Technology Officers
*  Program Managers
*  Product Data Managers
*  Customer Relations Managers
*  Technology Providers
*  Small-Medium-Large Enterprises
*  Data Conversion Managers and Providers
*  Application Service Providers

Among those areas that will be discussed in the tracks are:

*  Defining Requirements for Integrated Solutions
*  Strategy Focused Execution
*  Exploiting Value Chain Management
*  Electronic Enterprises-Broadening Your Space
*  Integrated Technologies
*  Electronic Government Enterprise-Governing Beyond Borders

Key Presentations:

*  Mr. Robert D. Johnson, Executive Vice President and COO, Honeywell International and President and CEO, Honeywell Aerospace
*  Ms. Mary J. Mitchell, Program Executive for Electronic Government Policy, General Services Administration
*  Mr. Jack Garrison, Director of Integrated Logistics, Lockheed Martin
*  LTG Daniel G. Brown, Deputy Commander in Chief, US Transportation Command
*  LTG Charles S. Mahan, Jr., Deputy Chief of Staff for Logistics, US Army
*  RADM Ray Archer, Defense Logistics Agency
*  Ms. Ariane Whittemore, Assistant Deputy Chief of Naval Operations, (Fleet Readiness and Logistics)
*  Dr. Palmer Smith, Director of Government Solutions, Sabre, Inc.
*  Mr. John F. Phillips, Vice President of Aftermarket Growth, Honeywell
*  Mr. Barry Lerner, Vice President of Government Sales, Exostar, LLC
*  Mr. Walt Kozak, PricewaterhouseCoopers
*  Mr. Pat Holcomb, CommerceOne
*  Mr. Craig York, Honeywell International

Three ways to register:

*  On-line at www.21cc.org
*  By fax at 703-522-3192
*  By mail:  AFEI, 2111 Wilson Boulevard, Suite 400, Arlington, VA  22201

Register prior to August 31 for Early Bird rates!
AFEI Members: $750
Government Employees: $825
Non-Member: $900

Tutorials:  $100 (September 10)
GSA (MOBIS/LOGWORLD Training): $75 (September 10)

Tutorials Sessions Include:

*  Introduction to Supply Chain Management including practical steps in planning for implementation
*  How to conduct auctions on the Internet. Reverse auctions - how they work - how DoD is using reverse auctions to save money
*  Strategy Focused Execution including an introduction to Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) and Customer Relationship Management (CRM)
*  XML with examples of the practical application of XML within Industry and Government
*  Introduction to Enterprise Application Integration (EAI)
*  Configuration Management (The transition to an Industry-wide standard)

We are pleased to announce that GSA will be holding a LOGWORLD/ MOBIS training session during the EXPO this year.

This year the General Services Administration's (GSA) procurement innovations will be presented at the 21st Century Commerce International EXPO 2001 on September 10.  GSA will provide training at EXPO 2001 for contractors and Federal agencies interested in the Logistics Worldwide (LOGWORLD) and Management, Organizational and Business Improvement Services (MOBIS) schedule contracts.

LOGWORLD enables Federal agencies to procure comprehensive logistics solutions to enhance or replace existing operations and capabilities.  Examples of the type of services provided under this schedule include Supply and Value Chain Management; Acquisition Logistics; Distribution and Transportation Logistics; Deployment Logistics; Logistics training services, support products and new services.  MOBIS provides Federal agencies with a tool to seek expert advice for improving management and organizational effectiveness.  Examples of the type of services provided under the MOBIS schedule are consulting services; facilitation services; survey services; Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) services; A76 study support; project management services; training services and support products. www.northwest.gsa.gov/fss/msc

Executive Roundtable:

This years Executive Roundtable (ERT) theme is Returns on Business Investments in the New Reality. The ERT is a special session for senior management (CEO, COO, CIO, CTO, Sr. Vice Presidents, Presidents, Executive Directors) and is offered by invitation only. If you would like to request an invitation, please contact Michelle Bourke at mbourke@afei.org.

Exhibit:

Booth space will be reserved on a first-come, first-served basis. Reserve your preferred location as soon as possible. The floorplan has been configured to maximize traffic throughout the display area, and the program schedule will be designed to encourage attendee participation.  For more information on available booth space and prices, go to http://www.21cc.org/01exhibits.htm. We have already sold 50% of our booth spaces! Sign up soon!

Conference Sponsors:

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*  Sprint E Solutions
*  CSC
*  Phoenix Business Journal
*  Government Computer News
*  National Defense Industrial Association
*  National Defense Magazine
*  Thomas Group
*  BidSource
*  The Greater Phoenix Chamber of Commerce

To view sponsorship opportunities, please visit the website at www.21cc.org

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Michelle Beckner Bourke, EXPO Conference Manager, at (703) 247-9473, mbourke@afei.org;

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1. In Section 6.1 "Bind Operation", 2, B, paragraph 3: what is the StartTLS operation? It doesn't appear in RFC2251 and no reference is given.

2. In Section 7 "Client Implementation by LDAP operation", the following is specified:

   The scenarios in the following operations assume that the client
   attached a passwordPolicyRequest control to the request message of
   the operation, and thus MAY receive a passwordPolicyResponse control
   in the response message. In the event that the passwordPolicyRequest
   control was not sent, no passwordPolicyRequest control is returned.
   All other instructions remain the same.

I couldn't find anything that specified what happens if the client doesn't attach a passwordPolicyRequest control and the password has expired, for example. Clearly the server can't return a passwordPolicyResponse control because Section 6  "Server Implementation by LDAP Operation" specifies:

   The scenarios in the following operations assume that the client has
   attached a passwordPolicyRequest control to the request message of
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   other instructions remain the same.

3. In Section 8 "Administration of a Password Policy", the following is specified:

   A password policy MUST be defined for a particular subtree of the
   DIT by adding to an LDAP subentry whose immediate superior is the
   root of the subtree, the pwdPolicy auxiliary object class.
   The scope of the password policy is the same as the default scope of
   an LDAP subentry as defined in section 5.1.2 of [SubEntry].

   It is possible to define password policies for different password
   attributes within the same pwdPolicy entry, by specifying multiple
   values of the pwdAttribute. But password policies could also be in
   separate sub entries as long as they are contained under the same
   LDAP subentry.

I think the first sentece of the second paragraph says that the same policy can apply to two attributes, for example,

objectClass: pwdPolicy
pwdAttribute: userPassword
pwdAttribute: sn

It's not clear why the second sentence begins with "But" as it refers to two different password policies not two password attributes. Does it mean that an entry could have two sub entries each with an objectClass of pwdPolicy but one with a pwdAttribute of userPassword, say, and the other with a pwdAttribute of sn, say? I suggest something like:

"It is also possible to define password policies for different password attributes by using separate sub entries as long as they are contained under the same LDAP subentry"

4. Is this draft generally implemented? Perhaps this isn't a question for this mailing list. I'm curious to know because if I modify my client would I have anything to test against?

Dominic.


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face="Century Gothic">ATTN: Marketing Manager</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT size=2><SPAN class=e-mail><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
 
class=e-mail><STRONG><FONT size=3>A</FONT></STRONG>re you looking for an 
outstanding invention and innovative product of the 21st century?</SPAN>
</DIV>
<P align=left><SPAN class=e-mail><FONT size=3><SPAN class=e-mail><FONT 
size=3><STRONG>S</STRONG></FONT><FONT size=2>ummer is coming, 
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top?</SPAN></SPAN></P></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=e-mail><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<P align=left><SPAN class=e-mail><FONT size=3><STRONG>I</STRONG></FONT>n late
 
20th century, the foldable scooter has been the most popular sports item. But
 
now in new millennium, what would be the new favorite in sports and fitness 
field? <STRONG><FONT size=4>e</FONT>-Body
Rejuvenator<SUP>&reg;</SUP>&nbsp;<FONT 
face="Quixley LET" size=4> </FONT></STRONG>is the answer. It is a high-tech 
intelligent innovation which has obtained patents and copyrights in 47 
countries, and won major international invention awards as
follows:</SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN class=e-mail>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - <STRONG><U>Gold
Medal</U> 
</STRONG>from London International Invention Competition 2000</SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN class=e-mail>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - <STRONG><U>Silver 
Medal</U> </STRONG>from&nbsp;The 28th International Invention Competition 
of&nbsp;Geneva 2000</SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN class=e-mail>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - <STRONG><U>The Supreme 
Prize of Golden Brain Award</U></STRONG> from Taiwan 
International&nbsp;Competition 2000&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN class=e-mail></SPAN><SPAN class=e-mail><img
src="HTTP://www.toptell.com.tw/e-mail/english-photo.jpg" width="650"
height="340"></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN class=e-mail><STRONG><FONT size=4>e</FONT>-Body 
Rejuvenator<SUP>&reg;</SUP>&nbsp;<FONT face="Quixley LET" size=4>
</FONT></STRONG>is 
suitable for both gender and all age group to practice indoor or outdoor,
either 
for leisure exercise or fitness purposes and that is a much wider acceptance 
than the foldable <FONT color=#008080><FONT color=#000000>scooter</FONT>. 
</FONT>Besides, <STRONG><FONT size=4>e</FONT>-Body 
Rejuvenator<SUP>&reg;</SUP>&nbsp;<FONT face="Quixley LET" size=4>
</FONT></STRONG>is 
ideal and safe for long-term and regular practice, compare to&nbsp;foldable 
scooter which may&nbsp;have higher chance of&nbsp;causing injury.&nbsp; 
</SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN class=e-mail><STRONG><FONT 
size=3>O</FONT></STRONG>ur&nbsp;outstanding interactive fitness equipment, 
<STRONG><FONT size=4>e</FONT>-Body Rejuvenator<SUP>&reg;</SUP>&nbsp;<FONT 
face="Quixley LET" size=4> </FONT></STRONG><FONT size=2>would be the most 
popular item&nbsp;this 21st century. Moreover, it is the most creative and 
unique item of giftware or promotion of new era. This&nbsp;high-tech body
shaper 
will lead to other popular activities among&nbsp;new generations who are 
enthusiastic for high technology in both fitness and leisure fields. 
</FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN class=e-mail>
<P align=left><SPAN class=e-mail><STRONG>Products photo </STRONG>: <A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/english/e-hula-photo.htm">English</A>, <A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/japan/j-hula-photo.htm">Japanese</A>, <A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/France/f-hula-photo.htm">French</A>, <A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/Germ/preview/hulahoop-photo.htm">German</A>.<
/SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN class=e-mail><B>" High-Tech" article</B> :<A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/english/preview/e-hightech.htm"> English</A>,
<A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/japan/preview/pre-j-hula-hightech1.htm">Japan
ese</A>, 
<A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/France/preview/f-hula-hightech.htm">French</A
>, 
<A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/Germ/preview/pre-g-hula-hightech-1.htm">Germa
n</A>.</SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN class=e-mail><B>Catalogue</B> :<A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/english/preview/e-hula1.htm"> English-1</A>,
<A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/english/preview/e-hula2.htm">English-2</A>,
<A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/japan/preview/j-hula-1.htm">Japanese-1</A>,
<A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/japan/preview/j-hula-2.htm">Japanese-2</A>,
<A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/France/preview/f-hula1.htm">French-1</A>, <A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/France/preview/f-hula2.htm">French-2 </A>, <A
 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/germ/preview/g-hula1.htm">German-1</A>, <A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw/germ/preview/g-hula2.htm">German-2</A></SPAN>
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=e-mail><B><FONT 
size=3>T</FONT></B>optell Technology is a well-known manufacturer and
exporter 
of electronic innovations in Taiwan. We specialize in integrating high 
technology into daily essentials for new millennium. We announce an
innovative 
or patented product every year since 1998. These innovative products have won
 
major international invention awards and we received praises from the
President 
of Taiwan and superior government officers for our creative 
spirit.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=e-mail><B><FONT
size=3>T</FONT></B>he 
hula hoop exercise is well known for its amazing&nbsp;easy waist slimming
result 
among other fitness sports. Our brand new body shaper, <STRONG><FONT 
size=4>e</FONT>-Body Rejuvenator<SUP>&reg;</SUP>&nbsp;</STRONG>, is designed
and 
structured as fitness equipment with the concepts of high technology and 
ergonomic principles. This&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN 
class=e-mail>creative idea has improved the old conception, which 
an&nbsp;ordinary toy hula hoop was unable to achieve since 1958.<FONT 
size=1><FONT size=3>,</FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;<SPAN
class=e-mail><STRONG><FONT 
size=4>e</FONT>-Body Rejuvenator<SUP>&reg;</SUP>&nbsp;<FONT size=4> 
</FONT></STRONG>is specially developed to interact during entertainment, 
exercise and users attempt to lose weight. An electronic microprocessor
provides 
various functions with human touch, such as voice report on turn counting and
 
timing and crowd's cheerful or disappointed 
exclamations.&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P><FONT face=Arial>
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial><STRONG><SPAN lang=EN-US 
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">e</SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN 
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-Body 
Rejuvenator <SUP>&reg;</SUP>&nbsp;</SPAN></STRONG><STRONG><SPAN lang=EN-US 
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> 
</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN class=e-mail><SPAN lang=EN-US 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">is like being with 
your own personal trainer who cheers and reminds the time,&nbsp;preventing
you 
from overdoing the exercise. Simply enter your weight and waistline 
measurements,&nbsp;the body shaper's built-in microprocessor will then 
automatically calculate and accumulate the burnt out calories. In addition,
this 
body shaper will also count and accumulate each number of turns achieved and 
time&nbsp;of use achieved, and then display all the figures on LCD screen and
 
store in memory. A unique electronic voice reporter will speak and report the
 
counting and timing simultaneously, as well as interact with you to encourage
 
you to keep going and&nbsp;challenge your own record. There are exclamations
on 
new record achieved or quit halfway.&nbsp;In addition, there is a "beep"
sound 
effect that is similar to heartbeat sound corresponding with each turn. When
the 
user turns the body shaper faster, the beeping speed goes faster and vice
versa. 
User will enjoy several lifelike surrounding songs to play along while this
body 
shaper is in use. With this interaction and interesting design, there's 
no&nbsp;more excuse for giving up&nbsp;using the most convenient and
efficient 
body shaper.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US 
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></FONT></FONT>
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=e-mail><STRONG><FONT 
size=4>e</FONT>-Body Rejuvenator<SUP>&reg;</SUP>&nbsp;<FONT size=4> 
</FONT></STRONG>is available in other specific languages upon&nbsp;customers'
 
request. </SPAN></FONT></P><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=e-mail>
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=e-mail><FONT face=Arial><SPAN 
class=e-mail><SPAN class=e-mail><SPAN class=e-mail><FONT face=Arial><FONT 
size=3><STRONG>M</STRONG></FONT>eanwhile, we keep on inventing new products
and 
another brand new invention and patent product with 48 countries patent will 
relase soon.&nbsp; This new invention product shall be popular for all
seasons 
no matter is indoor or outdoor.&nbsp; People will surely have fun using this
new 
fitness equipment whether summer,autumn, winter or spring.&nbsp; It is also 
suitable for all ages; the old ages will enjoy it as much as kids.&nbsp; This
 
new invention and patented product is expected will released 
about&nbsp;<STRONG>Oct. 2001</STRONG>. 
</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN 
class=e-mail><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=e-mail><SPAN class=e-mail><SPAN 
class=e-mail><FONT face=Arial>Please visit our website</FONT><A 
href="http://www.toptell.com.tw"><FONT face=Arial> 
www.toptell.com.tw</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial> frequently for more product 
details and other 
innovations.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><FONT 
face=Arial><SPAN class=e-mail><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=e-mail><SPAN 
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<DIV>
<DIV>Best regards,<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Sharon Chu (Sales Executive)</DIV>
<DIV>Tina Huang (Marketing Manageress)<BR>&nbsp;<BR><STRONG>Toptell
Technology 
Int'l Co. Ltd.</STRONG><BR>Suite 1203, No. 142, Sec.3, Min Chuan E. 
Rd.,<BR>Taipei 105, Taiwan R.O.C.<BR>tel: 
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href="mailto:toptell@tpts7.seed.net.tw">toptell@tpts7.seed.net.tw</A><BR><A 
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=================================================== 

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========================================================== 

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==========================================================
 
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. 
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========================================================= 

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======================================================= 

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==================================================== 

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__________________________________________________________ 
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___________________________________________________________ 
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________________________________________________________ 
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___________________________________________________________ 
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___________________________________________________________ 
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====================================================== 

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====================================================== 

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======================================================= 

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======================================================= 

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Folks,

Since the release of version 8 of the ldap access control
model draft, we've been attempting to close the open items.
This note reflects the state of those open items.
You will also see separate additional notes on each remaining
open item.  The plan is to resolve in the next 2 weeks so the
draft can be updated and a last call issued right after the
IETF meeting in August.

Resolved items:

1.  expansion of groups/roles...  reference Rob Byrne's note
of July 10 that sketches the resolution.

2.  authnLevel:  From discussion on the mailing list after
the issuance of draft 07, consensus was reached to change
authnLevel to reflect hierarchical levels and not authn
mechanisms.  After issuance of draft 08, the number of
comments solicited on this topic per Rob Byrne's July 13
note on authnLevels did not produce a statistically
compelling reason to change the draft (3 (different) responses.
So authnLevel as defined in draft 08 will not change.

3.  Use of subentries will be removed from new draft...reference
note from Kurt Z. and Ellen S. on prescriptive and subentry ACI
of July 18/19.


Open items:

1.  generalization of permission for controls: (Mark Davidson
of July 6 on ACM permission)

2.  too many permissions:  proposal from author Rob Byrne to
remove some permission, reference note July 13 on too many
permissions

3.  equality matching of ACI:  proposal from Steven Legg,
reference note July 19/20 on Equality Matching of ACI Values

Separate notes on these items will be emailed shortly.

Ellen



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Folks,

Since Steven Legg put out the options and proposed resolutions,
there has been no comment on the mailing list.

The authors plan to change the draft to reflect 1A and 2A.

Speak your comments now...

Ellen



>From: "Steven Legg" <steven.legg@adacel.com.au>
>To: <ietf-ldapext@netscape.com>
>Subject: Equality Matching of ACI Values
>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:05:51 +1000
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>LDAPexters,
>
>The semantics of equality matching for attribute values of the ACI syntax
>has been little discussed. The current draft of the access control model
>simply uses the general purpose directoryComponentsMatch rule from
>draft-legg-ldapext-component-matching-03.txt as the equality matching
>rule for the entryACI and subtreeACI attributes. The
>directoryComponentsMatch
>rule returns true if and only if all the component parts of two ACI values
>being compared are the same. The precise meaning of "the same" depends on
>the ASN.1 definition for the ACI syntax and is determined by the provisions
>of the component matching draft.
>
>A reasonable target for the design of an equality matching rule for the ACI
>syntax is for the equality test to align with the semantic equivalence of
>the values being compared. That is, two ACIs are equal if they mean the
>same thing and are not equal if they mean different things. With such a
>rule redundant duplication of access control information is prevented and
>semantically distinct ACIs are never blocked from being added to the same
>entry.
>
>For most of the fields in an ACI the generic matching by
>directoryComponentsMatch aligns quite nicely with semantic equivalence
>within
>the access control model. If two values of a field mean the same thing
>directoryComponentsMatch says they are equal and if they mean different
>things directoryConmponentsMatch says they are not equal. However, there
>are two fields, <ipAddress> and <userid>, where the generic matching is
>not well aligned and the discrepancy may not be to everyone's liking.
>
>When I defined directoryComponentsMatch I also described a way of extending
>it, so we can vary the meaning of "the same" for ACI matching in a
>straightforward way if that is what the group wants. Later in this message
>I show what that would look like for the access control model draft.
>
>The component matching framework also provides ways of partially matching
>ACI values. Some of the possible changes discussed below alter the ASN.1
>definition for the ACI syntax and so have consequences on the partial
>matching of ACIs (which are also discussed).
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>
>(1) IP Addresses
>
>RFC 2373 allows leading zero digits in the number parts of the textual
>representations of IP addresses and also allows for compressed
>representations
>of addresses. A single IP address can therefore have multiple
>representations.
>The ABNF for ACIs allows these multiple representations and the IP addresses
>are copied verbatim into a UTF8String in the binary encoding. These multiple
>representations for IP addresses aren't considered equal by the generic
>matching semantics of directoryComponentsMatch since it just does a
>caseIgnoreMatch of the IP address character strings.
>
>Here are our options.
>
>(1.A) Leave things as they are.
>
>So two ACI values that have the same IP address for a machineSubject, but
>using different representations, will not be equal, even if all the other
>fields in the ACI are the same.
>
>For example, these three ACI values mean the same thing but are not equal
>as things are currently defined:
>
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.9.8.7
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.09.08.07
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:0:0:0:0:0:0:10.9.8.7
>
>If I wanted to use the componentFilterMatch matching rule to search for
>ACIs that contain a particular IP address, e.g. with this filter,
>
>         (entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
>                 component 
> "subject.pureSubject.machineSubject.ipAddress.*.single",
>                 rule caseIgnoreMatch, value "::10.9.8.7" })
>
>then I will only find the ACIs with exactly the representation of the IP
>address I've chosen to search on. Also, the lexicographic ordering of IP
>address textual representations doesn't conform to the natural ordering
>of IPv6 addresses, so I can't write a sensible filter to match ACIs with IP
>addresses less than or greater some presented value (according to the
>caseIgnoreOrderingMatch rule "::10.9.8.7" is greater than "::10.10.8.7" !).
>
>(1.B) Constrain the ABNF for <ipAddress> so that each IP address can be
>represented in only one way.
>
>There are a number of ways this could be done. One solution is to disallow
>leading zero digits in all fields, require leading zero fields to be
>compressed, but otherwise mandate the x:x:x:x:x:x:d.d.d.d form be used,
>so for example, ::10.9.8.7 is okay but ::10.09.08.07 and
>0:0:0:0:0:0:10.9.8.7
>are not. This would clean up the equality matching, but the ordering
>relationship is still all wrong. Different constraints would enable sensible
>ordering matches but require less convenient representations of legacy
>IPv4 addresses.
>
>(1.C) Change the ASN.1 type corresponding to <ipAddress> to
>IPAddress ::= OCTET STRING (SIZE(16)).
>
>The conceptual data type for IP addresses that directoryComponentsMatch
>operates on then becomes the address's 128 bit identifier. This implies a
>notional translation from the textual representation (the ABNF for an ACI
>doesn't change) into the 128 bit identifier before any comparison takes
>place.
>The default matching rule that directoryComponentsMatch applies to IPAddress
>component values will be octetStringMatch.
>
>These three ACI values will be equal because the corresponding 128 bit
>identifier is the same in each case according to octetStringMatch:
>
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.9.8.7
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.09.08.07
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:0:0:0:0:0:0:10.9.8.7
>
>Because of the change to the associated ASN.1, the binary representation
>of an ACI would contain IP addresses as their 128 bit identifiers
>regardless of the textual representation used in the LDAP string
>representation of the ACI value. It also means that if an ACI value is
>converted to the binary representation and then back into the LDAP
>string representation the textual representation of the IP addresses
>may change (e.g. the first ACI value above may come back looking like
>the third value).
>
>Also, component matching becomes more awkward because the textual
>representations cannot be used. To search for ACIs that contain a
>particular IP address I would have to use a filter like this:
>
>         (entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
>                 component 
> "subject.pureSubject.machineSubject.ipAddress.*.single",
>                 rule octetStringMatch, value 
> '0000000000000000000000000a090807'H })
>
>It works but it isn't pretty. At least octetStringOrderingMatch conforms
>to the appropriate ordering relationship for IP addresses so
>componentFilterMatch can be used to find ACIs containing IP addresses
>greater than or less than an asserted value.
>
>(1.D) Derive a variant of directoryComponentsMatch that compares the textual
>representations of IP addresses in exactly the way we want.
>
>We can define an equality matching rule for IP address strings, let's call
>it ipAddressMatch, which simply evaluates to true if and only if the
>component value and assertion value represent the same 128 bit
>IPv6 address, regardless of the format in which they are presented.
>
>To make ipAddressMatch semantics apply when matching IP address fields of
>values of the entryACI and subtreeACI attributes the equality matching rule
>for these attributes has to be replaced with a variant of
>directoryComponentsMatch, let's call it aciMatch, which is just like
>directoryComponentsMatch except that it uses ipAddressMatch to compare
>IPAddress components. I've provided some text at the end of this message
>that shows how this would be written up in the ACM draft.
>
>These three ACI values will be equal according to aciMatch:
>
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.9.8.7
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:::10.09.08.07
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:ipAddress:0:0:0:0:0:0:10.9.8.7
>
>If I want to search for ACIs that contain a particular IP address then
>this filter,
>
>         (entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
>                 component 
> "subject.pureSubject.machineSubject.ipAddress.*.single",
>                 rule ipAddressMatch, value "::10.9.8.7" })
>
>will find the ACIs with any valid representation of the IP address (e.g.
>::10.9.8.7, ::10.09.08.07 and 0:0:0:0:0:0:10.9.8.7 will match each other).
>
>If we also define an ipAddressOrderingMatch that conforms to the necessary
>ordering relationship for IP addresses then componentFilterMatch can also
>be used to find ACIs containing IP addresses greater than or less than an
>asserted value.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>
>2) It isn't clear what sort of matching should apply to a <userid>
>in a <uAuthzId> subject.
>
>The ASN.1 type corresponding to <userid> in the ABNF for an ACI is UserID.
>UserID is defined to be a UTF8String in the -08 draft of the Access
>Control Model. A revised draft is expected to be submitted by Friday (20th)
>in which the corresponding ASN.1 type will have changed to OCTET STRING.
>There are pros and cons either way, but there is also an improved solution
>in the same style as (1.D).
>
>The <userid> is one form of authorization identity defined in RFC 2829 and
>is rendered as a UTF8 character string. RFC 2829 imposes no particular
>interpretation on the authorization identity strings. Whether, for example,
>"SMITH" and "smith" represent the same identity or different identities
>is a local implementation or deployment matter. Spaces in the identity
>strings may or may not be significant. If <userid> is mapped to an ASN.1
>UTF8String directoryComponentsMatch will default to a caseIgnoreMatch of
>identities, possibly regarding two separate identities as the same identity.
>If <userid> is mapped to an ASN.1 OCTET STRING directoryComponentsMatch
>will default to an octet comparison of the identities, possibly failing
>to recognize two authorization identities as being the same.
>
>Here are the options.
>
>(2.A) Retain OCTET STRING as the ASN.1 type of UserID.
>
>This is the conservative approach.
>
>The disadvantage of having UserID defined as an OCTET STRING is that if
>I want to use componentFilterMatch to search for ACIs that contain a
>particular <userid> then I can only apply octetStringMatch to the UserID
>component, e.g. like so:
>
>         (entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
>                 component 
> "subject.pureSubject.idBasedSubject.oneSubject.user",
>                 rule octetStringMatch, value '736D697468'H })
>
>I can't use caseIgnore or caseExact equality, ordering or substrings rules.
>They are undefined on OCTET STRING components.
>
>(2.B) Change the ASN.1 type of UserID back to UTF8String.
>
>If a deployment uses case sensitive user IDs two ACIs that apply to
>completely different users can evaluate to equal. For example, these
>two ACIs would be equal:
>
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:authzId-u:SMITH
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:authzId-u:smith
>
>and so couldn't appear in the same entry. That presents a problem for
>managing
>ACIs if "SMITH" and "smith" are different users.
>
>The advantage of defining UserID as a UTF8String is that it is possible
>to use componentFilterMatch in a more convenient way to search for ACIs
>that contain a particular user ID, e.g. with a filter like this:
>
>         (entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
>                 component 
> "subject.pureSubject.idBasedSubject.oneSubject.user",
>                 rule caseIgnoreMatch, value "smith" })
>
>It is also possible to use ordering or substrings rules, and the caseExact
>counterparts of the caseIgnore rules. The client chooses between caseIgnore
>and caseExact matching to suit their deployment.
>
>(2.C) Derive a variant of directoryComponentsMatch that compares UTF8String
>UserID components character by character.
>
>UserID is defined to be a UTF8String again and we define an equality
>matching rule, let's call it characterStringMatch, which evaluates to
>true if and only if the attribute/component value and assertion value
>match exactly character by character. Letter case and all spaces are
>significant.
>
>If we aren't already doing so to implement (1.D), we define aciMatch
>as a variant of directoryComponentsMatch, to (additionally)
>compare UserID components using characterStringMatch.
>
>These two ACI values will not be equal according to aciMatch
>(the conservative approach):
>
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:authzId-u:SMITH
>         grant:r#[all]#authnLevel:strong:authzId-u:smith
>
>However, because UserID is a UTF8String it is possible to use filters
>like these:
>
>         (entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
>                 component 
> "subject.pureSubject.idBasedSubject.oneSubject.user",
>                 rule caseIgnoreMatch, value "smith" })
>
>         (entryACI:componentFilterMatch:=item:{
>                 component 
> "subject.pureSubject.idBasedSubject.oneSubject.user",
>                 rule caseExactMatch, value "smith" })
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>
>The easiest thing to do is just stay with the status quo, options (1.A)
>and (2.A), and accept their idiosyncracies. With regard to (1), IP address
>subjects should be discouraged anyway, so perhaps we shouldn't be too
>worried
>about how well they are matched.
>
>The solutions with the nicest all round properties are (1.D) and (2.C).
>What follows is the text that would be added to the Access Control Model
>draft to effect these changes. Then the only other changes that need to
>be made are to replace directoryComponentsMatch with aciMatch in the
>definitions for entryACI and subtreeACI, and to redefine the UserID ASN.1
>type as a UTF8String. No changes to the ABNF would be required.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>
>The LDAP definition for the aciMatch matching rule is:
>
>( <OID-to-be-supplied> NAME 'aciMatch'
>     SYNTAX 1.2.36.79672281.1.5.3 )
>
>The aciMatch matching rule is derived from the directoryComponentsMatch
>matching rule in [DirCompMatch]. The derived matching semantics of
>aciMatch are defined by the following table, using the convention
>described in Section 7.2 of [DirCompMatch].
>
>   ASN.1 Type  | Matching Rule
>   ============+=====================
>   UserID      | characterStringMatch
>   IPAddress   | ipAddressMatch
>
>
>The LDAP definition for the characterStringMatch matching rule is:
>
>( <OID-to-be-supplied> NAME 'characterStringMatch'
>     SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.15 )
>
>The characterStringMatch rule evaluates to true if and only if the
>attribute or component value and the assertion value have the same
>number of characters and corresponding characters are the same.
>Letter case and whitespace characters are significant in the comparison.
>This matching rule may be applied to attribute or component values
>of the DirectoryString ASN.1 type, any of the ASN.1 restricted character
>string types, or their ASN.1 subtypes.
>
>
>The LDAP definition for the ipAddressMatch matching rule is:
>
>( <OID-to-be-supplied> NAME 'ipAddressMatch'
>     SYNTAX <OID-IPAddress-syntax> )
>
>The ipAddressMatch rule evaluates to true if and only if the attribute
>or component value and the assertion value represent the same 128 bit
>IPv6 address identifier, regardless of the textual format in which they
>are presented.
>
>The LDAP definition for the IPAddress syntax is:
>
>( <OID-IPAddress-syntax> DESC 'IPAddress' )
>
>This syntax corresponds to the IPAddress ASN.1 type from Section 4.1.2.
>The LDAP string representation of attribute or assertion values in this
>syntax is described by the <ipAddress> rule in Section 4.1.1.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>
>Cast your votes !
>
>Regards,
>Steven



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Folks,

Mark Davidson proposed a generalized permission for
controls in his note dated July 6 on ACM permissions.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ACI = rights "#" target "#" generalSubject

permission = "x" ; execute control
; permission u can only be used on controls

target = "[all]" / "[entry]" / (attribute *("," attribute)) /
"[controls]" / (controlType *("," controlType))

controlType is defined in RFC2251

Control use - can use control where aci is active (this
replaces the g permission in a more general way)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The authors like this idea and are working on text to
incorporated this into the draft and move the
getEffectiveRights control (and permission) in line with
this proposal.

We'll be putting a synopsis of this out shortly to the list.

In the interim, any comments?

Ellen



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Folks,

Since Rob Byrne put forward this proposal to remove the t and p
permissions, there has been no response to this on the list.

Note also that the 'g' permission will go away and is being
replaced with the generalized control permission (see my
previous email on 'generalized permission for controls).

We plan to change the draft to reflect this proposal.
So, speak your comments now.

Ellen


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>Folks,
>
>This is continuing the issue Mark and others raised in the "ACM
>permission" thread about the fact that there are too many permissions in
>this model and the consequent complexity/manageability/security
>implications of that.  In this thread I want to focus on resolving this
>problem as best we can.
>
>If you think that too-many-permissions is a flaw in this model then you
>need to propose a way to fix that.  Presumably the way to do that is to
>drop some of the functionality that this large permissions set is
>providing.  However if you do that then you need to be explicit about
>the functionality you are dropping so that the list can decide if that
>simplicty/functionality trade off is the right thing.  The way to
>proceed
>here is to pick a permission you don't like, go section 5, see where
>it's used and see if you can live without the granularity/functionality
>that permission is providing.  Then you need to explain that to the
>list.
>
>To help a bit, I have included a previous mail where I outlined the
>functionality each permission provides and includes a proposal to drop
>two of the permissions ("t" and "p") with an explanation of why I think
>that
>would be acceptable.
>
>Rob.
>
> > Mark (and others who have commented on "too many permissions"),
> >
> > Let's distinguish between compressing the list of permissions by
> > overloading permission names (eg. why not use "read" as an
> > attribute-level permission AND an entry-level permission) and dropping
> > permission names which means dropping functionality from the model (eg.
> > dropping "t" means you don't want to support the returnDN concept
> > anymore).
> >
> > Here's one way to compress but not lose functionality, by reusing
> > permission names and relying on whether the aci is an entry-level or
> > attribute-level aci to make the difference--I've commented out the old
> > permission with a ";" along with an explanation of what replaces it:
> >
> > "
> > Permissions (some of which apply to both entries and attribute):
> >
> >    r   Read            Read attribute values or Entries
> >    w   Write           Modify-add values or rename an entry's DN.
> > ; replaced with "d"   o   Obliterate      Modify-delete values
> >    s   Search          Search entries with specified
> >                           attributes or browse the specified entry
> >    p   searchPresence  Presence only filters
> >    c   Compare         Compare attributes
> > ; replaced with "a"   m   Make            Make attributes on a new entry
> > below
> >                           this entry
> >    a    Add        Add an entry or attribute below this entry
> >    d    Delete     Delete this entry or attribute
> >    e    Export     Export entry & subordinates to new
> >                       location
> >    i    Import     Import entry & subordinates below this
> >                       entry from some location
> > ; replaced with "w"   n    RenameDN   Rename an entry's DN
> > ; replaced with "s"   b    BrowseDN   Browse an entry's DN
> > ; replaced with "r"   v    ViewEntry  A read level entry permission
> >    t    ReturnDN   Allows DN of entry to be disclosed in
> >                       an operation result
> >    u    Unveil     This is the discloseOnError permission
> >    g    GetEffectiveRights  This is get effective rights
> >                                 permission
> > "
> >
> > This reduces the permissions set from 17 to 12.  But does that really
> > aid understanding ? The point being that although the admin now has a
> > smaller permission set that hasn't changed the fact that "w" on an
> > attribute means something different to "w" on an entry.  Also, by not
> > overloading permissions we could, without confusion, mix attribute-level
> > and entry-level permissions in the same aci (note though that currently
> > an aci either contains entry-level or attribute-level permissions but
> > not both).
> >
> > So, to dicsuss dropping functionality.  First, Mark, I do not think it's
> > a good idea to drop filter/search and compare permissions--they just
> > seem too fundamental.  I do however see two low hanging candidates to
> > drop, namely "t" and "p".  "t" is concerned with supporting aliasing in
> > the ACM, "p" is a refinement on the search filter permission.  I would
> > encourage those who think we have too many permissions to at first
> > consider dropping these guys.  The reason I think returnDN is a good
> > candidate is that hardly anyone approves of aliasing (the iPlanet LDAP
> > server doesn't support it and anyone that does seems to regret
> > it--performance/complexity issues).  The reason I think "p" might be a
> > good candidate is that it's really a refinement of "s" and could be
> > viewed as just too much functionality.  Dropping "t" and "p" and using
> > the above "compression" gets us down to 10 permissions.
> >
> > After that I think it gets more difficult to find easy stuff to throw
> > out: people have argued for the inclusion of "u" (disclose on error) and
> > the getEffectiveRights control is key to managing deployments of this
> > ACM so I think "g" (that says who can use this control)  is also
> > important--Mark your controlType/"use" idea could work for that but I
> > think that deserves a seperate thread.  The exotic looking "e" and "i"
> > are concerned with the complex moddn operation and I think they make the
> > required permissions for moddn easier to understand (see required perms
> > for moddn in section 5).  We enforce an entry-add time permission at the
> > attribute-level too ("m"), again people argued for this, their point
> > being that just relying on an entry-level "a" and allowing _any_
> > attribute to be added based on that is just too coarse.  Another point
> > here is that, for deployments where any of this extra functionality is
> > not required, then the management tool for acis (and let's hope there is
> > one!) can hide these extra permissions by not exposing them and
> > granting/not_granting them by default; the point being that in that the
> > tool can help hide the "too many permissions" complexity.
> >
> > To summarize: the way to approach the "too many permissions" problem is
> > to first agree on the functionality we are willing to drop, if any.
> > After that whether we overload permissions or not is probably not
> > critical.
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> > Mark Davidson wrote:
> > >
> > > I have been thinking about simplifying the permissions
> > > in the ACM and also adding permissions for controls. How
> > > about:
> > >
> > > permissions for attributes: read, modify, create, delete
> > > permissions for entries: read, modify, create, delete
> > >
> > > and add control OID ass a possible target with a permission
> > > of use
> > >
> > > so:
> > >
> > >     ACI = rights "#" target "#" generalSubject
> > >
> > >     permission = "r" / ; read
> > >                  "m" / ; modify
> > >                  "c" / ; create
> > >                  "d" / ; delete
> > >                  "u"   ; use
> > >     ; permission u can only be used on controls
> > >
> > >     target = "[all]" / "[entry]" / (attribute *("," attribute)) /
> > >          "[controls]" / (controlType *("," controlType))
> > >
> > >     controlType is defined in RFC2251
> > >
> > > Granting these permissions allows:
> > >
> > > Entry read - allows access to DN
> > > Entry modify - can change DN
> > > Entry create - can create an entry below this entry
> > > Entry delete - can delete this entry
> > >
> > > Attribute read - can read attribute
> > > Attribute modify - can modify replace attribute values
> > > Attribute delete - can modify delete attribute values
> > > Attribute create - can modify add attribute values
> > >
> > > Control use - can use control where aci is active (this
> > >               replaces the g permission in a more
> > >               general way)
> > >
> > > This does not give quite the same detailed level of
> > > control as the current scheme, but is much easier
> > > to understand from an administration point of view,
> > > rather that a protocol point of view.
> > >
> > > Mark
> >



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I would like to see this kept out of the main draft, and moved forward as a 
separate item.  I think that the rationale that is applied here should be 
similar to what was applied in my "application defined permissions" 
draft.  In actuality, I think that this is really pretty much the same as 
the mechanism that I defined in the draft: 
http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-greenblatt-ldap-perms-00.txt

Bruce

At 03:08 PM 7/24/01 -0500, Ellen Stokes wrote:
>Folks,
>
>Mark Davidson proposed a generalized permission for
>controls in his note dated July 6 on ACM permissions.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>ACI = rights "#" target "#" generalSubject
>
>permission = "x" ; execute control
>; permission u can only be used on controls
>
>target = "[all]" / "[entry]" / (attribute *("," attribute)) /
>"[controls]" / (controlType *("," controlType))
>
>controlType is defined in RFC2251
>
>Control use - can use control where aci is active (this
>replaces the g permission in a more general way)
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>The authors like this idea and are working on text to
>incorporated this into the draft and move the
>getEffectiveRights control (and permission) in line with
>this proposal.
>
>We'll be putting a synopsis of this out shortly to the list.
>
>In the interim, any comments?
>
>Ellen

==============================================
Bruce Greenblatt, Ph. D.
Directory Tools and Application Services, Inc.
http://www.directory-applications.com



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I would suggest this be left out of the specification
and instead addressed by generalizing permissions
to grant access based upon a categorization of the
type of the access (read,write,...) being made as
opposed to the operation/sub-operation used to access
the directory.

Kurt

At 01:08 PM 7/24/2001, Ellen Stokes wrote:
>Folks,
>
>Mark Davidson proposed a generalized permission for
>controls in his note dated July 6 on ACM permissions.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>ACI = rights "#" target "#" generalSubject
>
>permission = "x" ; execute control
>; permission u can only be used on controls
>
>target = "[all]" / "[entry]" / (attribute *("," attribute)) /
>"[controls]" / (controlType *("," controlType))
>
>controlType is defined in RFC2251
>
>Control use - can use control where aci is active (this
>replaces the g permission in a more general way)
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>The authors like this idea and are working on text to
>incorporated this into the draft and move the
>getEffectiveRights control (and permission) in line with
>this proposal.
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>We'll be putting a synopsis of this out shortly to the list.
>
>In the interim, any comments?
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At 07:57 AM 7/26/2001, robert byrne wrote:
>This is a bit curt for me :).  Can you elaborate ?

"assert" allows assertion of values (compare, search filters)
"read" allows reading of values (search read)
"write" allows update of values (add, delete, modify, moddn)

We've discussed this before...  arguments pro and con
are in the archives.

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Bruce,

I think there are some important differences between this controlType
idea and Application Defined Permissions:

1. ADPs are informational only, the controlType would affect directory
operations that had controls attached.

2. ADPs are motivated by considerations (however worthy) from outside of
LDAP.  The controlType is trying to address an extensibility that is
built into LDAP, namely the ability to define controls that modify
operation semantics.

Rob.

Bruce Greenblatt wrote:
> 
> I would like to see this kept out of the main draft, and moved forward as a
> separate item.  I think that the rationale that is applied here should be
> similar to what was applied in my "application defined permissions"
> draft.  In actuality, I think that this is really pretty much the same as
> the mechanism that I defined in the draft:
> http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-greenblatt-ldap-perms-00.txt
> 
> Bruce
> 
> At 03:08 PM 7/24/01 -0500, Ellen Stokes wrote:
> >Folks,
> >
> >Mark Davidson proposed a generalized permission for
> >controls in his note dated July 6 on ACM permissions.
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >ACI = rights "#" target "#" generalSubject
> >
> >permission = "x" ; execute control
> >; permission u can only be used on controls
> >
> >target = "[all]" / "[entry]" / (attribute *("," attribute)) /
> >"[controls]" / (controlType *("," controlType))
> >
> >controlType is defined in RFC2251
> >
> >Control use - can use control where aci is active (this
> >replaces the g permission in a more general way)
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >The authors like this idea and are working on text to
> >incorporated this into the draft and move the
> >getEffectiveRights control (and permission) in line with
> >this proposal.
> >
> >We'll be putting a synopsis of this out shortly to the list.
> >
> >In the interim, any comments?
> >
> >Ellen
> 
> ==============================================
> Bruce Greenblatt, Ph. D.
> Directory Tools and Application Services, Inc.
> http://www.directory-applications.com



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Kurt,

This is a bit curt for me :).  Can you elaborate ?

Rob.

"Kurt D. Zeilenga" wrote:
> 
> I would suggest this be left out of the specification
> and instead addressed by generalizing permissions
> to grant access based upon a categorization of the
> type of the access (read,write,...) being made as
> opposed to the operation/sub-operation used to access
> the directory.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> At 01:08 PM 7/24/2001, Ellen Stokes wrote:
> >Folks,
> >
> >Mark Davidson proposed a generalized permission for
> >controls in his note dated July 6 on ACM permissions.
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >ACI = rights "#" target "#" generalSubject
> >
> >permission = "x" ; execute control
> >; permission u can only be used on controls
> >
> >target = "[all]" / "[entry]" / (attribute *("," attribute)) /
> >"[controls]" / (controlType *("," controlType))
> >
> >controlType is defined in RFC2251
> >
> >Control use - can use control where aci is active (this
> >replaces the g permission in a more general way)
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >The authors like this idea and are working on text to
> >incorporated this into the draft and move the
> >getEffectiveRights control (and permission) in line with
> >this proposal.
> >
> >We'll be putting a synopsis of this out shortly to the list.
> >
> >In the interim, any comments?
> >
> >Ellen



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Even so, the mechanism used to define the permission is (essentially) the 
same as for ADP.  I also note that the control will be embedded in an 
existing operation, which possibly has other controls.   The interaction 
between the ACI for the operation, the ACI for this control and the ACI for 
all of the other controls is not defined by this.  I believe the 
interaction to be potentially very complex, and best left for a separate 
document.

Bruce

At 04:55 PM 7/26/01 +0200, robert byrne wrote:

>Bruce,
>
>I think there are some important differences between this controlType
>idea and Application Defined Permissions:
>
>1. ADPs are informational only, the controlType would affect directory
>operations that had controls attached.
>
>2. ADPs are motivated by considerations (however worthy) from outside of
>LDAP.  The controlType is trying to address an extensibility that is
>built into LDAP, namely the ability to define controls that modify
>operation semantics.
>
>Rob.
>
>Bruce Greenblatt wrote:
> >
> > I would like to see this kept out of the main draft, and moved forward as a
> > separate item.  I think that the rationale that is applied here should be
> > similar to what was applied in my "application defined permissions"
> > draft.  In actuality, I think that this is really pretty much the same as
> > the mechanism that I defined in the draft:
> > http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-greenblatt-ldap-perms-00.txt
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > At 03:08 PM 7/24/01 -0500, Ellen Stokes wrote:
> > >Folks,
> > >
> > >Mark Davidson proposed a generalized permission for
> > >controls in his note dated July 6 on ACM permissions.
> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> -------
> > >ACI = rights "#" target "#" generalSubject
> > >
> > >permission = "x" ; execute control
> > >; permission u can only be used on controls
> > >
> > >target = "[all]" / "[entry]" / (attribute *("," attribute)) /
> > >"[controls]" / (controlType *("," controlType))
> > >
> > >controlType is defined in RFC2251
> > >
> > >Control use - can use control where aci is active (this
> > >replaces the g permission in a more general way)
> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> --------
> > >
> > >The authors like this idea and are working on text to
> > >incorporated this into the draft and move the
> > >getEffectiveRights control (and permission) in line with
> > >this proposal.
> > >
> > >We'll be putting a synopsis of this out shortly to the list.
> > >
> > >In the interim, any comments?
> > >
> > >Ellen
> >
> > ==============================================
> > Bruce Greenblatt, Ph. D.
> > Directory Tools and Application Services, Inc.
> > http://www.directory-applications.com

==============================================
Bruce Greenblatt, Ph. D.
Directory Tools and Application Services, Inc.
http://www.directory-applications.com



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At 09:33 AM 7/26/2001, Bruce Greenblatt wrote [trimmed]:
>I also note that the control will be embedded in an existing operation, which possibly has other controls.   The interaction between the ACI for the operation, the ACI for this control and the ACI for all of the other controls is not defined by this.  I believe the interaction to be potentially very complex,

I concur with this statement.

>and best left for a separate document.

I suggest we re-engineer the ACM to be less tied to the specific
operation used to access the directory and more tied to the
kind of access operations provide to the directory.

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Forgive me if I am asking the wrong sort of question for this group.

What is the status of the the C API?

I've looked through www.ietf.org and I can find draft-ldapext-ldap-c--api-05.txt which is dated 17 November 2000 and expired May 2001. It says it replaces rfc1823.

Given the draft has expired and I could find no later draft, does this mean the draft is unlikely to progress to being an rfc?

Dominic.

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"Steinitz, Dominic J" wrote:

> 1. In Section 6.1 "Bind Operation", 2, B, paragraph 3: what is the StartTLS operation? It doesn't appear in RFC2251 and no reference is given.

I will add reference to the StartTLS extended operation (RFC 2830).


>
>
> 2. In Section 7 "Client Implementation by LDAP operation", the following is specified:
>
>    The scenarios in the following operations assume that the client
>    attached a passwordPolicyRequest control to the request message of
>    the operation, and thus MAY receive a passwordPolicyResponse control
>    in the response message. In the event that the passwordPolicyRequest
>    control was not sent, no passwordPolicyRequest control is returned.
>    All other instructions remain the same.
>
> I couldn't find anything that specified what happens if the client doesn't attach a passwordPolicyRequest control and the password has expired, for example. Clearly the server can't return a passwordPolicyResponse control because Section 6  "Server Implementation by LDAP Operation" specifies:
>
>    The scenarios in the following operations assume that the client has
>    attached a passwordPolicyRequest control to the request message of
>    the operation. In the event that the passwordPolicyRequest control
>    was not sent, no passwordPolicyRequest control is returned. All
>    other instructions remain the same.

Ok, I will add text about what to do when there's no passwordPolicyRequest control and a password has expired.
I think that the only solution is that the server should return the same LDAP error and specify the reason of the error in the message.


>
> 3. In Section 8 "Administration of a Password Policy", the following is specified:
>
>    A password policy MUST be defined for a particular subtree of the
>    DIT by adding to an LDAP subentry whose immediate superior is the
>    root of the subtree, the pwdPolicy auxiliary object class.
>    The scope of the password policy is the same as the default scope of
>    an LDAP subentry as defined in section 5.1.2 of [SubEntry].
>
>    It is possible to define password policies for different password
>    attributes within the same pwdPolicy entry, by specifying multiple
>    values of the pwdAttribute. But password policies could also be in
>    separate sub entries as long as they are contained under the same
>    LDAP subentry.
>
> I think the first sentece of the second paragraph says that the same policy can apply to two attributes, for example,
>
> objectClass: pwdPolicy
> pwdAttribute: userPassword
> pwdAttribute: sn
>
> It's not clear why the second sentence begins with "But" as it refers to two different password policies not two password attributes. Does it mean that an entry could have two sub entries each with an objectClass of pwdPolicy but one with a pwdAttribute of userPassword, say, and the other with a pwdAttribute of sn, say? I suggest something like:
>
> "It is also possible to define password policies for different password attributes by using separate sub entries as long as they are contained under the same LDAP subentry"
>

The idea is that if you define set 2 attributes, the password policy is identical for both attributes.
However you may want to define 2 different password policies for 2 separate attributes with the same scope.
I'll try to clarify the text.


>
> 4. Is this draft generally implemented? Perhaps this isn't a question for this mailing list. I'm curious to know because if I modify my client would I have anything to test against?

>

>
> Dominic.

Thanks for your feedback.

Ludovic.

>
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Hi Ludovic,

The definition of the pwdInHistory (section 4.2.4) should also include the
text regarding hashed passwords. If the client hashes the password before
sending it over to the server (a recommended method, instead of sending 
cleartext passwords over the network and storing them as cleartext strings
on the server as well), the history cannot be verified.

To that end, I would also like to see an attribute (say,
'pwdSupportedSncryptionSchemes') added to the pwdPolicy objectclass, that
specifies the encryption schemes supported by the server. The clients can 
then make use of this value to decide which encryption scheme is to be used
to encrypt the password before sending it over for updates.

This attribute should be multi-valued, each value specifying a supported
encryption scheme. 

This would help protect against clients sending over a password of type
{MD5}oiwejr98wur98uw, and the server treating this whole string as a
plaintext password!!

Thanks,

-Subbu

On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Ludovic Poitou wrote:

> Hi LDAP-Ext members,
> 
> A update to the LDAP Password Policy draft has been submited (and
> attached here by).
> 
> We did a general editing pass and modified the section 6 and 7 for
> conformance to rfc 2119 and the section 8 for clarification.
> The document is now complete and we would like to make it progress to
> Proposed Standard.
> We solicit your comments on the document.
> 
> Thank you and best regards,
> 
> Ludovic.
> 
> --
> Ludovic Poitou
> Sun Microsystems Inc.
> iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions - Directory Group - Grenoble - France
> 
> 
> 

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"Steinitz, Dominic J" wrote:
> 
> Forgive me if I am asking the wrong sort of question for this group.
> 
> What is the status of the the C API?
> 
> I've looked through www.ietf.org and I can find draft-ldapext-ldap-c--api-05.txt
> which is dated 17 November 2000 and expired May 2001. It says it replaces rfc1823.
> 
> Given the draft has expired and I could find no later draft, does this mean
> the draft is unlikely to progress to being an rfc?

Not, I do not believe that is the case.  The C API document is almost
done, but some serious issues were raised during the last working group
last call that have not been fully addressed yet (and as editor I was
discouraged from publishing a new I-D until all of the outstanding
issues had been addressed).  Progress has been unreasonably slow though,
and as document editor I accept most of the blame for that problem.  I
will step up my energy level and provide a schedule for completion of
this document to the LDAPEXT chairs soon.

I believe most working group participants would still like to see the C
LDAP API document published as an RFC, and last time we checked
consensus was to continue on the standards track path.

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At 11:41 AM 7/27/2001, Subbu Subramaniam wrote:
>The definition of the pwdInHistory (section 4.2.4) should also include the
>text regarding hashed passwords.

I've haven't examined the proposed text yet, but I would be
very leery about depending any of this specification upon
RFC 2307 hashed passwords.  Besides being experimental, this
feature directly conflicts with the standard track specification
of userPassword [RFC 2256].

>If the client hashes the password before
>sending it over to the server (a recommended method, instead of sending 
>cleartext passwords over the network and storing them as cleartext strings
>on the server as well), the history cannot be verified.

RFC 2307 userPasswords (experimental) and RFC 3112 authPasswords
(informational) should be protected as if they were clear text.
If exposed, they are subject to off-line dictionary attacks.

>To that end, I would also like to see an attribute (say,
>'pwdSupportedSncryptionSchemes') added to the pwdPolicy objectclass, that
>specifies the encryption schemes supported by the server. The clients can 
>then make use of this value to decide which encryption scheme is to be used
>to encrypt the password before sending it over for updates.

Hopefully RFC 3062 becomes more widely adopted so that clients
need not concern themselves with how the directory stores the
password.

>This attribute should be multi-valued,

userPassword is, off course, multi-valued (and so is authPassword).

>each value specifying a supported encryption scheme. 

>This would help protect against clients sending over a password of type
>{MD5}oiwejr98wur98uw, and the server treating this whole string as a
>plaintext password!!

That's exactly what is.  Per RFC 2256, userPassword holds values
which are clear text passwords.


Also, responding to an early portion of this thread, Ludovoc said:
>   However you may want to define 2 different password policies for
>   2 separate attributes with the same scope.

I would suggest that two different policies be held in two separate
subentries.

Kurt



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From: <IAN9876@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: EARN $46,000 IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS!!!!!
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more in the next 90 days. Before you say "BULL... ", please read
this program carefully. This is not a chain letter, but a 
perfectly
legal money making opportunity. Basically, this is what you do:

As with all multi-level businesses, we build our business by
recruiting new partners and selling our products. Because of the
global nature of the internet, you will be able to recruit new
multi-level business partners from all over the world, and we
offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. YOUR ORDERS
COME BY MAIL AND ARE FILLED BY E-MAIL, so you are
not involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own
home, store or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-Level Mail
Order Marketing anywhere.

This is what you MUST do:

1. Order all 5 reports shown on the list below(you can't sell
them if you don't order them).

a. For each report, send $5.00 CASH, the NAME & NUMBER
OF THE REPORT YOU
ARE ORDERING, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS, and YOUR
NAME & RETURN ADDRESS (in case of a problem) to the
person whose name appears on the list next to the
report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON
YOUR ENVELOPE IN CASE OF ANY MAIL PROBLEMS!

b. When you place your order, make sure you order each of the
five reports. You will need all five reports so that you can save
them on your computer and resell them.

c. Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, each of the
five reports. Save them on your computer so they will be
accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will
order them from you.

2. IMPORTANT-- DO NOT alter the names of the people who
are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in 
any
way other than is instructed below in steps "a" through "g" or
you will lose out on the majority of your profits. Once you
understand the way this works, you'll also see how it doesn't
work if you change it. Remember, this method has
been tested, and if you alter it, it will not work.

a. Look below for the listing of available reports.

b. After you've ordered the five reports, take this advertisement
and REM0VE the name and address under REPORT #5. This
person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting
their $46,000! Also, change the name of the company, the
address, and the REM0VE e-mail address on the top of this
document to your own.

c. Move the name and address under REPORT #4 down to
REPORT #5.

d. Move the name and address under REPORT #3 down to
REPORT #4.

e. Move the name and address under REPORT #2 down to
REPORT #3.

f. Move the name and address under REPORT #1 down to
REPORT #2.

g. Insert your name/address in the REPORT #1 position.

Please make sure you copy every name and address
ACCURATELY!

3. Take this entire letter, including the modified list of names,
and save it to your computer. Make NO changes to the
instruction portion of this letter.

Your cost to participate in this is practically nothing (surely 
you
can afford $25). You obviously already have an Internet
connection and e-mail is FREE!

To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5
reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable
marketing INF0RMATION which includes how to send bulk e-
mails, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much,
much more.

In addition you will be provided with INF0RMATION on
Internet Marketing Clubs such as INTERNET MARKETING
RESOURCES(IMR): This is one the premiere internet
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where internet marketers from all over the world can exchange
ideas and secrets on Internet Marketing. In addition, members of
this club are provided free internet marketing tools and services
for the Do-Yourself-Internet-Marketer.

They will provide you with free bulk e-mail software and up to
1,000,000 fresh e-mail addresses each week. This club will
provide you with hundreds of free resources which include:
How to obtain free web sites, how to obtain top rankings in
search engines for your web-site, how to send bulk e-mail into
AOL and CompuServe, how to market your products on
newsgroups, free classified ads, electronic malls, bulletin
boards, banner ads and much
more.

There are two primary methods of building your downline:

METHOD #1: SENDING BULK E-MAIL

Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes,
and we'll assume you and all those involved send out only 2,000
programs each. Let's also assume that the mailing receives a
0.3% response. Using a good list the response could be much
better. Also, many people will send out hundreds of thousands
of programs instead of 2,000. But continuing with this example,
you send out only 2,000 programs. With a 0.3% response, that is
only 6 orders for REPORT #1. Those 6 people respond by
sending out 2,000 programs each for a total of 12,000. Out of
those 0.3%, 36 people respond and order REPORT #2. Those
36 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of 72,000. The 0.3%
response to that is 216 orders for REPORT #3. Those 216 send
out 2,000 programs each for a 432,000 total. The 0.3% response
to that is 1,296 orders for REPORT #4. Those 1,296 send out
2,000 programs each for a 2,592,000 total. The 0.3% response
to that is 7,776 orders for REPORT #5.

That's 7,776 $5 bills for you, CASH!!! Your total income in this
example is$30 + $180 + $1,080+ $6,480 + $38,880 for a total
of $46,650!!!

REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,994 OUT OF
THE 2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO
THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF
EVERYONE, OR HALF SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS
INSTEAD OF 2,000. Believe me, many people will do just that,
and more! By the way, your cost to participate in this is
practically nothing. You obviously already have an internet
connection and e-mail is FREE!!!

REPORT #2 and #5 will show you the best methods for bulk
emailing, tell you where to obtain free bulk e-mail software and
where to obtain e-mail lists and show you how to send out
1,000,000 e-mails for free.

METHOD #2 - PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET

1. Advertising on the 'Net is very, very inexpensive, and there
are HUNDREDS of FREE places to advertise. Let's say you
decide to start small just to see how well it works. Assume your
goal is to get ONLY 6 people to participate on your first level.
(Placing a lot of FREE ads on the internet will EASILY get a
larger response.) Also assume that everyone else in YOUR
ORGANIZATION gets ONLY 6 downline members. Follow
this example to achieve
the STAGGERING results below.

1st level--your 6 members with $5 ($5 x 
6).......................$30
2nd level--6 members from those 6 ($5 x 36)...................$180
3rd level--6 members from those 36 ($5 x 216)............ $1,080
4th level--6 members from those 216 ($5 x 1,296)........ $6,480
5th level-6 members from those 1,296 ($5 x 7,776)... .$38,880
.................................................................
.......................$46,650

__________________________________________________


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__________________________________________________

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__________________________________________________

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__________________________________________________

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__________________________________________________

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__________________________________________________

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__________________________________________________

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* ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON THE
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I'm living proof that it works. It really is a great opportunity 
to
make relatively easy money, with little cost to you. If you do
choose to participate, follow the program exactly,
and you'll be on your way to financial security. Fred Dellaca,
Westport, New Zealand

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The main reason for this letter is to convince you that this 
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__________________________________________________

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in the last three weeks..and my investment was just $5!!! I LOVE IT!
Thank you
11,000 x's!

Julie M. St. Louis

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

ARE YOU IN NEED OF MONEY RIGHT NOW?
HOW DOES $10,000 IN TWO WEEKS SOUND?
Don't laugh! Try this for a change while you wait for the others to
start working. One hour of work to get started and no mailing lists!

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Esquire Marketing Newsletter Gift Club

This service is 100% legal (Refer to US Postal and Lottery Laws, Title
18, Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US
code, also in the code of federal regulations, Volume 16, 
Sections 255 and 436, which state a product or service must be 
exchanged for money received)

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Here's How It Works

Unlike many other programs, this three level program is more realistic
and much, much faster. Because it is so easy, the response rate for 
this program is VERY HIGH AND VERY FAST, and you will see results in two 
weeks or less! Just in time for next month's bills!

You only mail out 20 copies (not 200 or more as in other programs). 
You should also send them to people who send you their programs 
because they know these programs work and they are already believers
in the system!

Besides, this program is MUCH, MUCH FASTER and has a HIGHER
RESPONSE RATE!

Even if you are already in a program, stay with it, but do yourself a
favor and DO THIS ONE as well. START RIGHT NOW! It's simple and takes
a very small investment. It will pay off long before other letters even
begin to trickle in!

Just give ONE person a $5 gift. That's all!

Follow the simple instructions and in two weeks you will have
US$10,000 in your bank account! Because of the LOW INVESTMENT, SPEED, 
and HIGH PROFIT POTENTIAL, this program has a VERY HIGH RESPONSE RATE! 
Just one (1) US$5 bill. That's your investment!!!

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Follow These Simple Instructions

1) On a blank sheet of paper write Please add me to your mailing
list. Write your name and address clearly and include your email 
address for future mailings and courtesy follow ups. Fold it around 
a US$5 and send it to the FIRST name on the list (#1).

Only the first person on the list gets your name and a five dollor gift.

2) Retype only the list, removing the FIRST (#1) NAME FROM THE LIST. 
Move the other two names UP and ADD YOUR NAME to the list in the THIRD
(#3) position.

3) Send out 20 copies of this letter. NOTE: by sending this letter
via EMAIL, the response time is much faster, and you save the expenses
of envelopes, stamps, and copying services. Consider this, MILLIONS
of people surf the internet everyday, all day, all over the world!

Fifty thousand new people get on the internet every month! An
excellent source of names is the people who send you other programs
and the names listed on the letter they send you. Your contact source
is UNLIMITED!

It boggles my mind to think of all the possibilities! Mail, or should
I say Email, your letter TODAY! It's so easy. One hour of your time.
THAT'S IT!

To send your newsletter by Email:

1) Go to "edit" and select all
2) Go to "edit" and "copy"
3) Start (compose) a new Email message
4) Address your Email and Subject blocks
5) Go to "edit" and "paste"

After you have pasted this article to your new Email, delete the old
header and footer (Subject, Date, To, From, Ect.) Now you can edit 
the names and addresses with ease. I recommend deleting the top name, 
adding your name and address to the bottom of the list, then simply
changing the numbers.

THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO DO. When your name reaches the first position
in a few days, it will be your turn to collect your gifts. The gifts 
will be sent to you by 1,500 to 2,000 people like yourself, who are
willing to invest US$5 and one hour to receive US$10,000 in cash.

That's all! There will be a total of US$10,000 in US$5 bills in your
mailbox in two weeks. US$10,000 for one hours work!

I think it's WORTH IT, don't you?

GO AHEAD--TRY IT. IT'S US$5! EVEN IF YOU MAKE JUST 3 OR 4
THOUSAND, WOULDN'T THAT BE NICE? IF YOU TRY IT, IT WILL PAY!

- - - - - - - - - TRUE STORY
Cindy Allen writes: I ran this gift summation four times last year. 
The first time I received over $7,000 in cash in less than two weeks
and over $10,000 in cash in the next three times I ran it. I can't
begin to tell you how great it feels not to have to worry about money
anymore! I thank God for the day I received this letter! It has
truly changed my life! Don't be afraid to make gifts to 
strangers--they'll come back to you in ten-fold. So, let's 
keep it going and help each other out in these tough
and uncertain times.


- - - - - - - - - CAN I DO IT AGAIN?
OF COURSE YOU CAN--this plan is structured for everyone to send only
20 letters each. However, you are certainly not limited to 20. 
Mail out as many as you can. Every 20 letters you send has a return
of $10,000 or more. If you can mail forty, sixty, eighty, or
whatever, GO FOR IT!
THE MORE YOU PUT INTO IT THE MORE YOU GET OUT OF IT.

Each time you run this program, just follow steps 1 thru 3 and
everyone on your gift list benefits! Simple enough? You bet it is!
Besides, there are no mailing lists to buy (and wait for), and trips
to the printer or copier, and you can do it again and again
with your regular groups or gifters, or start up a new group.

Why not? It beats working! Each time you receive an MLM 
offer, respond with this letter! 
Your name will climb to the number one position at
dizzying rates.

Follow the simple instructions, and above all, PLEASE PLAY FAIR.

That's the key to this programs success. Your name must run the full
gamut on the list to produce the end results. Sneaking your name
higher up on the list WILL NOT produce the results you think, and it
only cheats the other people who have worked hard and have earned
the right to be there. So please, play by the rules and the $$$ will
come to you!

- - - - - - - - - - - - - MAIL YOUR LETTERS OUR TODAY - - - - - - - -
- - 

$$$ Together we will prosper! $$$

GOOD LUCK!!!

************************************************************************

1. R. Brace
8a Lower Avenue 
Bishop's Falls, NF 
A0H 1C0    Canada


2. B. Taylor
P.O.Box 26001
Fredericton, N.B.
E3A 5V8

3. Pathos
P.O. Box 278
Wood Dale, IL
60191

************************************************************************

Wishing you the best in all you do!

You probably don't believe this will work, but if you don't try it you
will never know. That's the way I felt. Try it. You won't be sorry.





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size=2><FONT color=#0000ff size=5><STRONG><U>Here's a List of the 
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<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000><EM>1</EM>) Application Set-Up 
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<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000><EM>4) 
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<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000><EM>5) </EM><STRONG>FREE</STRONG><EM> 
</EM><STRONG>Set-Up </STRONG><EM>for </EM>American Express &amp; Discover<EM> 
(approved separately). </EM></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><EM></EM></FONT><FONT size=3>&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=5><STRONG><U>HOW TO GET 
STARTED:</U></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><U></U></STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><STRONG>E-MAIL or FAX The Following Pre-Qualification Form To: 
</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><FONT size=3></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#ff0000 size=3><STRONG>E-Mail:&nbsp;<A 
href="mailto:arockfordb@excite.com">arockfordb@excite.com</A> </STRONG></FONT><FONT 
color=#ff0000><FONT size=3>&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT><FONT 
size=3><STRONG>Fax:</STRONG>&nbsp;<FONT 
color=#000000>(419)&nbsp;715-0786</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#ff0000 size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=5><U><STRONG>Pre-Qualification 
Form:</STRONG></U></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><STRONG>Legal Business Name: </STRONG></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG>Business DBA:</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Estimated Monthly Volume:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Date Business Opened:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Home Based "yes or no"</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Business Street Address:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>City:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>State:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Zip:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Ownership Type: </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Sole Owner, Partnership, Corporation, or Non-Profit.</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Date Business Opened:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Principle One Info:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>Name:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>Percentage of Ownership:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Home Street Address:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT>City:</DIV>
<DIV>State:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Zip:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Principle Two Info:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>Name:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Percentage of Ownership:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>Home Street Address:</DIV>
<DIV>City:</DIV>
<DIV>State:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Zip:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG>Best Day Phone Number:</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG><FONT 
color=#000000></FONT></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG><FONT color=#000000>Business Phone Number: 
</FONT></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG><FONT 
color=#000000></FONT></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Fax Number:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG>Best Time To Call:</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>How Did You Find Our Company?</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG>Comments: </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=3><FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=3><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>We are&nbsp;now 
able to provide merchants with&nbsp;the most affordable solution for on-line 
Credit Card Processing. This new system allows merchants to hook up their web 
sites simply, easily, and quickly to&nbsp;a secure socket layer (SSL) server to 
process orders on-line. Below are some of the features of this one of a kind 
system.</FONT></DIV>
<UL dir=ltr>
  <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>Secure Credit Card 
  Processing.&nbsp;</FONT></STRONG> 
  <LI><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>Innovative state of the art 
  Security for your Electronic Commerce.</STRONG> </FONT></FONT>
  <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>Automatic Encryption for each 
  transaction.</FONT></STRONG><U><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2> </FONT>
  <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>Ease, Speed and 
  Convenience</FONT></STRONG></U><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2> of all 
  <STRONG>On-Line Credit Card Ordering. Worldwide secure processing of credit 
  card sales transactions, 24 hours &#8230; 7 days a week.</STRONG> </FONT>
  <LI><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>Give your customers the option of 
  ordering via Credit Card or Check for Convenient Payment and Spontaneous 
  Purchases. Receive a Credit Card Authorization in Real-Time (within 3 to 5 
  seconds).</STRONG> </FONT></FONT>
  <LI><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>Customer and&nbsp;Merchant 
  receipt system.</STRONG> </FONT></FONT>
  <LI><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>Custom receipt system with 
  Address Verification System (AVS).</STRONG> </FONT></FONT>
  <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>Receive funds directly into your local 
  bank account - automatically.&nbsp; </FONT></STRONG>
  <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>Services are not limited to any 
  particular operating system, web browser or server 
  technology.</FONT></STRONG></LI></UL>
<DIV></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=5></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=5>Food For Thought...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#ff0000><FONT size=4><B>Net spending to 
hit $1 trillion!</B> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=verdana,arial,helvetica color=#3366cc size=3><B>A study from IDC 
says e-commerce will hit the trillion dollar mark in 2003.</B></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana color=#3366cc></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica color=#ff0000 size=3><B>Internet commerce is 
poised to hit the trillion dollar mark as early as 2003, according to a new 
study from International Data Corp.</B></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>The Framingham, Mass.-based research firm said that the Web 
will also become less U.S.-centric, with an estimated 65 percent of Web users 
coming from other countries by 2003. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>The online buying phenomenon will be driven by larger 
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jump from 31 million in 1998 to more than 183 million in 2003.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>IDC isn't the only one expecting big things from Internet 
commerce. Forrester Research of Cambridge, Mass. expects business-to-business 
hard goods sales online will hit $1.3 trillion by 2003 and Jupiter 
Communications predicts teenagers alone will spend $1.3 billion online by 
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<DIV align=left><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"><FONT size=3><FONT color=#ff0000 
size=4><STRONG>INCREASE YOUR SALES - DOUBLE YOUR PROFITS</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=4><FONT size=3><STRONG><U>ACCEPT <FONT 
color=#0000ff>CREDIT CARDS</FONT></U></STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff> </FONT>OVER 
THE INTERNET</FONT><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>AND </FONT><STRONG><FONT 
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<DIV><STRONG>PROCESS VISA, MASTERCARD, DISCOVER, &amp; AMERICAN 
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4><FONT color=#0000ff><U>We&nbsp;Approve the following 
Types of Businesses</U>:</FONT></FONT></STRONG></DIV><FONT face=Arial 
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<DIV dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" align=left><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT><BR><FONT size=4><FONT size=3>*Mail Order / Phone Sales / Internet 
/ Swap Meet / Seminar<BR>*Home Based - Business Start-Ups&nbsp;- Small &amp; 
Large Volume<BR>*Everyone Is Welcome!&nbsp; 98% Approved!! Even Problem 
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<DIV dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" align=left><FONT color=#ff0000 
size=4>FREE&nbsp;APPLICATION FEE&nbsp;&nbsp;***&nbsp; </FONT><FONT size=4><FONT 
color=#ff0000>FREE SITE INSPECTION </FONT><BR></FONT>* Save $195.00 * <FONT 
size=2>limited time offer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000>We offer <STRONG>Competitive Rates 
&amp; Fees</STRONG>,<BR> as well as the best customer service &amp; support in the 
industry. </FONT><BR><FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>Accepting Credit Cards can Double 
or Triple your Sales.&nbsp;<BR><U>Quit Watching Others Get Rich</U> - Apply 
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<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT size=2><FONT size=3><FONT size=2><FONT size=3><FONT 
size=2><FONT color=#0000ff size=5><STRONG><U>Here's a List of the 
Fees:</U></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000><EM>1</EM>) Application Set-Up 
Fee&nbsp;<STRONG>FREE</STRONG>&nbsp;</FONT></FONT><FONT size=3><FONT 
color=#000000>Site Inspection Photos <STRONG>FREE "</STRONG><EM><STRONG>Save 
$195.00"</STRONG></EM></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><EM><STRONG></EM></FONT></STRONG><FONT 
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<DIV><FONT size=3><EM>2</EM>) Discount Rate for&nbsp;Internet sales is 2.25% + 
.30 per transaction. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><EM></EM></FONT><FONT size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=3><EM>3</EM>) <STRONG>PROCESSING SYSTEM: 
</STRONG>Secure&nbsp;Virtual Terminal + Secure Real Time 
Processing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000><EM>4) 
</EM><STRONG>TERMS:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</STRONG>$39.95 per month x 36 month 
Lease/Purchase &lt;or&gt;&nbsp;Cash Price: $750.00</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000><EM>5) </EM><STRONG>FREE</STRONG><EM> 
</EM><STRONG>Set-Up </STRONG><EM>for </EM>American Express &amp; Discover<EM> 
(approved separately). </EM></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><EM></EM></FONT><FONT size=3>&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=5><STRONG><U>HOW TO GET 
STARTED:</U></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><U></U></STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><STRONG>E-MAIL or FAX The Following Pre-Qualification Form To: 
</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><FONT size=3></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#ff0000 size=3><STRONG>E-Mail:&nbsp;<A 
href="mailto:arockfordb@excite.com">arockfordb@excite.com</A> </STRONG></FONT><FONT 
color=#ff0000><FONT size=3>&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT><FONT 
size=3><STRONG>Fax:</STRONG>&nbsp;<FONT 
color=#000000>(419)&nbsp;715-0786</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=5><U><STRONG>Pre-Qualification 
Form:</STRONG></U></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><STRONG>Legal Business Name: </STRONG></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Product or Service Sold:</STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Average Credit Card Sale Amount:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Estimated Monthly Volume:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Date Business Opened:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Home Based "yes or no"</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Business Street Address:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>City:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>State:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Zip:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Ownership Type: </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Sole Owner, Partnership, Corporation, or Non-Profit.</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Date Business Opened:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Principle One Info:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>Name:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>Percentage of Ownership:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Home Street Address:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT>City:</DIV>
<DIV>State:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Zip:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Principle Two Info:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>Name:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Percentage of Ownership:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>Home Street Address:</DIV>
<DIV>City:</DIV>
<DIV>State:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Zip:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG>Best Day Phone Number:</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG><FONT 
color=#000000></FONT></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG><FONT color=#000000>Business Phone Number: 
</FONT></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG><FONT 
color=#000000></FONT></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Fax Number:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG>Best Time To Call:</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>How Did You Find Our Company?</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><STRONG>Comments: </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=3><FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=3><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>We are&nbsp;now 
able to provide merchants with&nbsp;the most affordable solution for on-line 
Credit Card Processing. This new system allows merchants to hook up their web 
sites simply, easily, and quickly to&nbsp;a secure socket layer (SSL) server to 
process orders on-line. Below are some of the features of this one of a kind 
system.</FONT></DIV>
<UL dir=ltr>
  <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>Secure Credit Card 
  Processing.&nbsp;</FONT></STRONG> 
  <LI><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>Innovative state of the art 
  Security for your Electronic Commerce.</STRONG> </FONT></FONT>
  <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>Automatic Encryption for each 
  transaction.</FONT></STRONG><U><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2> </FONT>
  <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>Ease, Speed and 
  Convenience</FONT></STRONG></U><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2> of all 
  <STRONG>On-Line Credit Card Ordering. Worldwide secure processing of credit 
  card sales transactions, 24 hours &#8230; 7 days a week.</STRONG> </FONT>
  <LI><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>Give your customers the option of 
  ordering via Credit Card or Check for Convenient Payment and Spontaneous 
  Purchases. Receive a Credit Card Authorization in Real-Time (within 3 to 5 
  seconds).</STRONG> </FONT></FONT>
  <LI><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>Customer and&nbsp;Merchant 
  receipt system.</STRONG> </FONT></FONT>
  <LI><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>Custom receipt system with 
  Address Verification System (AVS).</STRONG> </FONT></FONT>
  <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>Receive funds directly into your local 
  bank account - automatically.&nbsp; </FONT></STRONG>
  <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>Services are not limited to any 
  particular operating system, web browser or server 
  technology.</FONT></STRONG></LI></UL>
<DIV></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=5>Food For Thought...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#ff0000><FONT size=4><B>Net spending to 
hit $1 trillion!</B> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=verdana,arial,helvetica color=#3366cc size=3><B>A study from IDC 
says e-commerce will hit the trillion dollar mark in 2003.</B></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana color=#3366cc></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica color=#ff0000 size=3><B>Internet commerce is 
poised to hit the trillion dollar mark as early as 2003, according to a new 
study from International Data Corp.</B></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>The Framingham, Mass.-based research firm said that the Web 
will also become less U.S.-centric, with an estimated 65 percent of Web users 
coming from other countries by 2003. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>The online buying phenomenon will be driven by larger 
purchases, and more shoppers, IDC said. The number of Web buyers is expected to 
jump from 31 million in 1998 to more than 183 million in 2003.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>IDC isn't the only one expecting big things from Internet 
commerce. Forrester Research of Cambridge, Mass. expects business-to-business 
hard goods sales online will hit $1.3 trillion by 2003 and Jupiter 
Communications predicts teenagers alone will spend $1.3 billion online by 
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 01 19:00:08 EST
From: sandy82162@yahoo.com
Subject: PAY 5$ AND COLLECT CASH BY MAIL FOR WEEKS!!!
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 Hello,

What if I told you that you could make hundreds or even thousands of 
dollars just by spending $5.00 US... Thats right just 5 US dollars! Well 
if you told me that a week ago I would have laughed at the idea but, I 
couldn't resist and I spent the $5.00 since then I have collected over 
$195.00 and the money is still coming in steadily. 

Now I'm no marketing expert and I don't have alot of money to advertise 
either, but I sent out about 100 emails in my spare time (about an 
hour) and the results I got for my effort is astounding! The fact of the 
matter is that most people are willing to part with $5, after all, what 
do they have to lose? Just $5 which isn't even enough to 
eat lunch these days!

BE PREPARED TO GET EXCITED...
YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED!!!

Why it is different from other opportunities?:

1 - Now, when you have questions you can simply e-mail
those above you on the list. Everyone lists their 
e-mail address, so that any problems can be taken care
of. You can also e-mail people before you get involved
and get their testimonies so that you can get excited
about it. Because of this it is much easier to market
to prospects.

2 - No CHEATERS! As you can see below in instruction
#1, before anyone can make money from this program, 
it must be proven by those ahead on the list that they
did pay their initial fee of $5.  This prevents cheaters 
from putting their name on the top of the list and 
getting profits, when they never mailed their $5.

3- Confirmation email allows you to keep track of who 
is working to move your name up the list.

This is a one-time effort, and then you leave it and watch the money 
pour in.
REMEMBER, you can continue ALL your programs in which you are currently 
involved and this will only take an hour or so to set up!


THIS IS HOW IT WORKS.


This is a three level program that is much faster,
because it is so easy, the response rate for this
program is VERY HIGH AND VERY FAST.  And you
will see results in two weeks or less! 

Just one (1) US$5 bill. That's your investment ! ! !

YES this is legal! (Read at bottom of message, for
more details)
 


HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS;

1) E-mail the person on position #4 with the subject
header "REMITTANCE INQUIRY". In the body of your
message, type the information contained in position
#3. And underneath write "Did you receive your $5 
from the person mentioned above?"

2) When you receive confirmation from the person
on position #4, you may proceed as follows: 
On a blank sheet of paper write: 
"Please add me to your mailing list and E-mail me
confirmation of your receipt of my $5 remittance". 
Write your name and address clearly and include your
email address for confirmation mailing and courtesy
follow ups. Fold it around a US$5 and send it to the
FIRST name on the list (#1).  

IMPORTANT: 
Wrap additional paper (black colored paper is ideal)
so that the $5 inside can not be seen when your 
letter is held against a strong light. This is to prevent
thievery!

3)send a blank email to the person in position #3,
with the subject "new member". (This will show you 
how many people are working to move your name to the 
#1 position)

4) RETYPE the Name List. 
Move the FIRST NAME (#1) to the FOURTH (#4) 
position.  Move the SECOND (#2) and THIRD (#3) 
NAMES UP and ADD YOUR NAME to the list in the 
THIRD (#3) position.  NOTE: Only the fourth (#4) 
name in the original list is dropped. 

5) AFTER you have received an e-mail confirming 
receipt of your remittance, then SEND out 20 emailed copies 
of your edited letter (or more, if you wish to have more potential) .

6) ENJOY your trip to the mailbox !  After a few
days, watch the envelopes start coming in virtually 
EVERY DAY, not once a fortnight, or once a month. 


THAT'S IT! How simple is that?


_______________________________________________________________________


CURRENT NAME LIST:

#1
Cynthia Kelley
5610 dellwood dr.
austin, TX USA
78723
e-mail: <A href="http://us.f149.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=prospernow@consultant.com&amp;YY=12149&amp;order=down&amp;sort=date&amp;pos=0">http://us.f149.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=prospernow@consultant.com&amp;YY=12149&amp;order=down&amp;sort=date&amp;pos=0</A>


#2
B. Heck   
8009 n lombard way
Portland, OR 
USA, 89052
E-MAIL: <A href="http://us.f149.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=cashrewards10@yahoo.com&amp;YY=12149&amp;order=down&amp;sort=date&amp;pos=0">http://us.f149.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=cashrewards10@yahoo.com&amp;YY=12149&amp;order=down&amp;sort=date&amp;pos=0</A>


#3
Sandra Laska
320 Jobs Hill Road 
Ellington,  CT  USA
06029
email: <A href="http://us.f149.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=sandy82162@yahoo.com&amp;YY=12149&amp;order=down&amp;sort=date&amp;pos=0">http://us.f149.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=sandy82162@yahoo.com&amp;YY=12149&amp;order=down&amp;sort=date&amp;pos=0</A>

#4
B. L. Jones
1399 s. green valley parkway #817
Henderson, NV USA
89052
e-mail: <A href="http://us.f149.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=fivedollarclub2001@yahoo.com&amp;YY=12149&amp;order=down&amp;sort=date&amp;pos=0">http://us.f149.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=fivedollarclub2001@yahoo.com&amp;YY=12149&amp;order=down&amp;sort=date&amp;pos=0</A>



_______________________________________________________________________
 
Consider this, MILLIONS of people surf the internet
every day, all day, all over the world! 
Fifty thousand new people get on the internet every
month!

It boggles my mind to think of all the possibilities!
E-mail, your letter TODAY! It's so easy.

THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO DO. 
When your name reaches the first position in a week 
or so, it will be your turn to collect your gifts. The
gifts will be sent to you by Hundreds or 1000's of
people like yourself (average accomplishment rate
is 20 - 25 percent), who are willing to invest US$5
and an hour or so to receive anywhere from Hundred$ 
to Thousand$ in cash.


That's ALL!   I think it's WORTH IT, don't you?


GO AHEAD--TRY IT.  IT'S ONLY 5 Buck$ ! 
EVEN IF YOU MAKE a few Hundred $$'s or 
just 3 OR 4 THOUSAND $$'s,
WOULDN'T THAT BE NICE?  Would that be
helpful in paying a few bills, or, that special gift
you have been wanting for your significant other,
or, that little vacation you have been planning for?


IF YOU TRY IT, IT WILL PAY!  


- - - - -  - - - CAN I DO IT AGAIN? - - - - - - - -

OF COURSE YOU CAN -- this plan is structured for
everyone to send only 20 letters each. However, you
are certainly not limited to 20. Mail out as many as
you can. Every 20 letters you send has an average
return of Hundred$$ to Thousand$$.  If you can 
mail forty, sixty, eighty, or whatever, GO FOR IT!
 
THE MORE ENERGY YOU PUT INTO IT ... ... ...
.. ... ... THE MORE $$$'s YOU GET OUT OF IT !!!


Why not? 
It beats working! 
Each time you receive an MLM offer, respond with 
this letter!  Your name will climb to the number one
position at dizzying rates.


Follow the simple instructions, and PLEASE PLAY FAIR.
The BUILT-IN MECHANISM against cheating will 
FRUSTRATE the cheaters!  So please, play by the 
rules and the $$$ will come!!!



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Recruiting all those wanting a career in entertainment!!
(acting, dancing, singing and modeling).

World Star Talent Agency is actively pursuing new talent and 
fresh faces.  Our professional experience ranges from modeling, 
dancing, singing and acting.  We work for you to get your look
in front of Talent Agents, Casting Directors, Producers,
Modeling Agencies, Commercial Agencies, Print Agencies, 
Video Media, TV, Theatrical and Cinema Agents. 

We specialize and take pride in placing new talent. In fact,
agencies are often looking just for that - New and fresh looks
with little to no experience...... WE SPECIALIZE IN THIS!

The following list represents some of the jobs we have helped
place our clients in:

TV and Cinema:

The Practice
Blow
Friends
Frazier
ER
Nash Bridges
Legally Blonde
Traffic


TV Commercials:

Budweiser
Coca Cola
Mitsubishi
Castrol Oil 
AT&T
Ford


Print advertisements:    

Polo
Tommy Hilfiger
Gap
Ballys
Guess
Nautica
Victoria's Secret
Este Lauder
Bebe


Music Videos:

Limp Bizcut
Janet Jackson
Brittany Spears
Metallica
Jessica Simpson

And hundreds more....


Your one time investment of only $19.95 covers our expenses 
to put your photos and resume into our database. Once in our
database your face and resume will be accessible by over a thousand
Talent Agents, Casting Directors, Producers, Modeling Agencies,
Commercial Agencies, Print Agencies, Video Media, TV, Theatrical,
Cinema Agents and anyone else actively seeking new talent.  

World Star Talent Agency is contracted to be paid by the 
Talent Agents that hire you. We get paid only when you are hired.

WE DO NOT MAKE MONEY UNLESS YOU DO!!


What we need from you is:
 
1. Headshot (full body shot optional)
2. Your resume and or a brief story of yourself (bio). 
   Rest assured there is no entertainment experience necessary. 
   Just the desire to be in the entertainment industry.
3. Your complete mailing address, telephone number, e-mail and
   all other contact information you can give us.
4. A check or money order for $19.95 payable to:
   World Star Talent Agency Inc.
5. Put all of the above in an envelope and mail to:

World Star Talent Agency Inc.
8491 Sunset Blvd. Suite 175
Hollywood, CA 90069


Why put it off today when you will be on your way to being a STAR tomorrow?

Please no videos at this time.







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Hello,
My name is Roger Jack from Toronto Ontario Canada. Before
you put me in the trash, I just want to say this system really
works! Everything that's explained in this campaign letter works
exactly the way it's designed - To Make YOU rich! I am a real
person that once doubted this system and is now reaping the
awesome rewards because I gave it a chance! For the price of one
night out at the movies you can own a proven money making
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cards. I beg of you to please put your skepticisms aside for 5
minutes and understand how this WILL work for you!  It's simple.
It works. I proudly present to you your opportunity….

*************

Make a descent income independently in less than 90 Days!
-If this message was sent to you in error then please forgive me
(delete right away) and I'll tell someone who IS interested in
EARNING money BIG

100% Purely LEGITIMATE, LEGAL, Fail-safe and dummy proof!

It works (like designed) but only for those who follow it to the
letter!!
Please read this program... Then Read it Again!!

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#############...........INSTRUCTIONS:............################
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This cookie-cutter method of raising capital REALLY WORKS! I am
sure that you could easily earn  10 times your current salary or
more in the next 90 days.

Before you say "BULL... ", please read this program carefully.

This is not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making
opportunity.
Basically, this is what you do:
As with all multi-level businesses, we build our business by
recruiting new partners and selling our products.
Every state in the USA (or province in Canada) allows you to
recruit new multi-level business partners, and we offer a
product for EVERY dollar sent.

Your orders COME BY MAIL & are FULFILLED by E-MAIL, so you are
never involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your
own home, store or office.

This is the GREATEST multi-level mail order marketing anywhere:
This is what you MUST do:

1.) Order all 5 reports shown on the list below:
(you can't sell them if you don't order them).

* When you place your order, make sure you order each of the
five reports.
You will need all five reports so that you can save them on your
computer and resell them.

Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, each of the five
reports.
Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to
send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you.

2.) IMPORTANT-- DO NOT alter the names of the people who are
listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in
any way other than is instructed below in steps "a" through "f"
or you will lose out on the majority of your profits. Once you
understand the way this works, you'll also see how it doesn't
work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested,
and if you alter it, it will not work.

a. Look below for the listing of available reports.

b. After you've ordered the five reports, take this
Advertisement and remove the name and address under REPORT #5.

This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt
laughing all the way to the bank!

c. Move the name and address under REPORT #4 down to REPORT #5.

d. Move the name and address under REPORT #3 down to REPORT #4.

e. Move the name and address under REPORT #2 down to REPORT #3.

e. Move the name and address under REPORT #1 down to REPORT #2.

f. Insert YOUR name/address in the REPORT #1 position.

Please make sure you copy every name and address ACCURATELY!

3.) Take this entire letter, including the modified list of
names, and save it to your computer. Make NO changes to the
Instruction portion of this letter.

Your cost to participate in this is practically nothing (surely
you can afford $25). You obviously already have an Internet
Connection and e-mail is FREE!

To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the
5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable
marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails,
where to find thousands of free classified ads and much, much
more.

The reports will provide you information on the hottest internet
marketing clubs such as INTERNET MARKETING RESOURCES (IMR): This
is one the premiere internet marketing clubs on the INTERNET.
The club specializes in providing free internet marketing tools
and services for the Do-Yourself-Internet-Marketer. They will
provide you with free bulk e-mail software and millions of fresh
e-mail addresses each week.

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*** Order Each REPORT by NUMBER ***

Notes:

-- Send $5 CASH (U.S. CURRENCY) for EACH
report. CHECKS NOT ACCEPTED.

-- ALWAYS SEND YOUR ORDER VIA FIRST CLASS MAIL.

Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least two
sheets of paper.
On one of those sheets of paper, include:

(a) the number of the report you are ordering,

(b) your e-mail address, and

(c) your name & postal address.

PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW:
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REPORT #1: The Insiders Guide to Advertising For Free On The Net

Order Report #1 from:

Roger Jack
40-1110 Finch Ave. W. Suite 1001
Toronto, Ontario
Canada
M3J3M2

(receive a limited bonus from me to jump start your success)
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REPORT #2: The Insiders Guide to Sending Bulk Email On The Net

Order Report #2 from:

Pierre Fuentes
131 Hillcroft Drive
Markham, Ontario
Canada
L3S 1G3
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REPORT #3: The Secret To Multi Level Marketing On The Net

Order Report #3 from:

K. Conner
2128 Mountain Road
Halifax, Va. 24558
USA
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 REPORT #4: How to Become A Millionaire Using MLM and The Net

Order Report #4 from:

Joanne Denton
4239 Holland Rd, Suite #784-602
Virginia Beach VA 23462
USA
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REPORT #5: How To Send One Million Emails For Free

Order Report #5 from:

Kristin Butler
32 Mccullough rd.
Cody, Wy 82414
USA
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Basically where you come in is to advertise and remember:

THE MORE YOU ADVERTISE THE MORE YOU WILL SUCCEED!!!!
About 50,000 new people get online every month!

There are two primary methods of building your downline:

METHOD # 1: SENDING BULK E-MAIL

Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it
goes, and we will assume you and those involved send out only
5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive
only a 0.2% response.(the response could be much better but lets
just say it is only 0.2% . Also many people will send out
hundreds of thousands e-mails instead of only 5,000 each).

Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails.
With a 0.2%response, that is only 10 orders for report #1.
Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each
for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2%
responded with orders.
That = 100 people responded and
ordered Report #2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails
each for a total of 500,000 e-mails.
The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report #3.
Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5
million e-mails sent out.
The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report #4.
Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of
50,000,000 e-mails.
The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5.

THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH = $500,000.00 (half
million).

Your total income in this example is:

$50+
$500+
$5,000 +
$50,000+
$500,000.........Grand Total = $555,550.00

NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE
WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES! NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU
WILL STILL MAKE FAR MORE MONEY THAN YOU INVEST! REMEMBER FRIEND,
THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED
TO.

Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone,
or even one 3rd of those people mailed 100,000 e-mails each or
more?
There are over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and
counting.
Believe me, many people will do just that, and more!

METHOD #2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET

Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there are
hundreds of FREE places to advertise.
Placing a lot of free ads on the Internet will easily get a
larger response.
We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add METHOD #2
as you go along.

REPORT #2 will show you the best methods for bulk e-mailing,
tell you where to obtain free bulk e-mail software
and where to obtain e-mail lists.

THINK ABOUT IT! For every $5.00 you receive, all you must do is
e-mail them the report they ordered. THAT'S IT! ALWAYS PROVIDE
SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS! This will guarantee that the
e-mail THEY send out with YOUR name and address on it will be
prompt because they can't advertise until they receive the
report!

THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO DO. As your name reaches position
2, 3, 4 and 5 the more five Dollar bills you will receive.
How many thousands could you receive?

(****GIVE THIS A TRY I PROMISE YOU WON'T BE SORRY****)

******* TIPS FOR SUCCESS *******

-- TREAT THIS AS YOUR BUSINESS! Be prompt,
professional, and follow the directions accurately.

-- Send for the four reports IMMEDIATELY so you
will have them when the orders start coming in
because: When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send
out the requested product/report.

-- ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON THE ORDERS
YOU RECEIVE.

-- Be patient and persistent with this program. If
you follow the instructions exactly, your results WILL
BE SUCCESSFUL!

-- ABOVE ALL, HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF AND KNOW YOU
WILL SUCCEED!
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******* T E S T I M O N I A L S *******

This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY!

Especially the rule of not trying to place your name in a
different position,
it won't work and you'll lose a lot of potential income. I'm
living proof that it works.
It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money,
with little cost to you.
If you do choose to participate, follow the program exactly, and
you'll be on your way to financial security.

Steven Bardfield, Portland, OR

************************************************************

My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody, and I live in Chicago, IL.
I am a cost accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make
pretty good money. When I received the program I grumbled to
Jody about receiving "junk mail." I made fun of the whole thing,
spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages
involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my
supposed intelligence and jumped in with both feet. I made
merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old "I told you
so" on her when the thing didn't work... well, the laugh was on
me! Within two weeks she had received over 50 responses. Within
45 days she had received over $147,200 in $5 bills! I was
shocked! I was sure that I had it all figured and that it
wouldn't work. I AM a believer now. I have joined Jody in her
"hobby." I did have seven more years until retirement, but I
think of the "rat race" and it's not for me. We owe it all to
MLM.

Mitchell Wolf MD., Chicago, IL

************************************************************

The main reason for this letter is to convince you that this
system is honest, lawful, extremely profitable, and is a way to
get a large amount of money in a short time. I was approached
several times before I checked this out. I joined just to see
what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money
required. To my astonishment, I received $36,470.00 in the first
14 weeks, with money still coming in.

Charles Morris, Esq.

************************************************************

Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up
my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am,
I decided that the initial investment was so little that there
was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least
get my money back. Boy, was I surprised when I found my
medium-size post office box crammed with orders! For awhile, it
got so overloaded that I had to start picking up my mail at the
window. I'll make more money this year than any 10 years of my
life before. The nice thing about this deal is that it doesn't
matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment
with a faster return.

Paige Willis, Des Moines, IA

************************************************************

I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I
wondered if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of course, I had no
idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until
I was e-mailed another program, ....11 months passed then it
came...I didn't delete this one! I made more than $41,000 on the
first try!!

Violet Wilson, Johnstown, PA

***********************************************************

This is my third time to participate in this plan. We have quit
our jobs, and will soon buy a home on the beach and live off the
interest on our money. The only way on earth that this plan will
work for you is if you do it. For your sake, and for your
family's sake don't pass up this golden opportunity. Good luck
and happy spending!

Kerry Ford, Centerport, NY

************************************************************
I am a real person and this is a real program!

Greetings,

Hopefully my name is still on the list. I am a retired attorney.
Approximately, two years ago a man came to me with a letter
similar to this one. He asked me to verify the fact that this
letter was legal. I told him I would review it and get it back
to him. When I first read the letter a week and a half later, we
met in my office to discuss the letter. I told him that the
letter he originally brought me was not 100% legal and I advised
him to make a small change in the letter so it would be. I was
still curious about the letter, so he proceeded to explain how
the letter works. I thought it was a long shot and decided
against participating. However, before he left, I asked him to
keep me updated on his results. About two months later, he
called to tell me he had received over $40,000 in cash. I did
not believe him. He suggested that I try his idea and find out
for myself. I thought about it for a couple of days and then I
realized I had nothing to lose, only some money to gain. If
nothing else I would make my investment back, so I asked him for
a copy of the letter. I followed the instructions exactly,
mailed out 100,000 e-mails and sure enough, the money started
arriving. It came slowly at first, but after three weeks I was
getting more mail in than I could open in a day. After about 3
months , the money stopped coming in. I kept a precise record of
my earnings and at the end they totaled $58,493. I was earning a
good living as an attorney. However, as anyone in the legal
profession will tell you, there is a lot of stress that comes
with the job. I told myself that if things really started
working out, I could retire from my practice and play golf with
in a few years. I decided to try the letter again, but this time
I sent out 500,000 e-mails. Well, three months later, my
earnings totaled $89,178. I just couldn't believe it. I met with
my old client for lunch to find out why or even how this letter
was working so well. He told me that there are five names on the
list instead of six and with this program your only sending $5
to those five people instead of $10 each. That fact alone
resulted in many more returns. The other part was guaranteeing
that the whole program was legal, since no one wants to risk
participating in something illegal. This program has provided me
with an independent income and thus allowed me to retire early.
My name is Bill Covington, and my Law Practice of 27 years I
operated in Houston.

************************************************************

ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD
TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM!

NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOUR TURN DECISIVE ACTION YIELDS
POWERFUL RESULTS
_______________________________________________________
Thank you for your time and consideration.

Your earnings are highly dependent on your activities and
advertising. The information contained on this site and in the
report constitutes no guarantees stated or implied. In the event
that it is determined that this site or report constitutes a
guarantee of any kind, that
guarantee is now void.

The earnings amounts listed on this site and in the report are
estimates only.

If you don't try it - you will NEVER Know !!

~It Works ~ It's Legal ~ It's Easy ~ So WHY NOT ?!?

_________________________________________________________________

GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN!
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$$  GUARANTEED WAY TO QUICKLY HAVE EXCELLENT CREDIT!!  $$


Dear Friend,

Give yourself the ADVANTAGE of enjoying life more with EXCELLENT
CREDIT!! Over the past 8 years I have perfected a system called
the Proven Credit Advantage Program. It's a guaranteed way for
legally getting an excellent credit rating almost instantly. 
Here's how:

If you have bad credit you will simply go through my easy 5 step
program to quickly get a new, legal, unblemished credit file and 
establish Excellent Credit. If you don't have bad credit, but
want to make your existing credit EXCELLENT, we will go straight
to STEP 5.

Step 1 - 
Because no two people in the United States have the same Social
Security Number, Banks and Creditors access your credit file 
almost entirely by your SS#. You will not want to change your
Social Security Number because it is extremely difficult to do 
so and you need it for your Employment, Taxes and Social 
Security Benefits. The FEDERAL PRIVACY ACT OF 1974 clearly
states that only the Government and your employer can force you 
to use your SS#. Because of this law you are allowed to legally
use another 9 digit number to use in place of your Social
Security # on credit applications. 

The first day you become our client, you will receive your own
number through the Employer Identification Number Program. You
will need us for this because 95% of all Employer Identification
Numbers, although 9 digits, do not look anything like Social
Security Numbers and cannot be used on credit applications.
We will legally get you an Employer Identification Number that 
fits in the same range of Social Numbers in use today. Because 
the Federal Laws do not require you to give your SS# to anyone
besides your Employer and the Government, you can now legally 
use this number in place of your SS# on credit applications. 
Remember, your new number will only be used for new credit. 

Step 2 - 
No two people with the same name have the same mailing address,
so you will need to obtain a new mailing address for use on your
new credit file. A friend, relative or mailbox address in your
area will be perfect.

Step 3 - 
No two people with the same name have the same telephone numbers, 
so you will also need a new telephone number for use on your
new credit file. A friend, relative, voice mail or pager will 
again work perfectly.

Step 4 - 
With your new Social Security number, new address and new
telephone number we will open your new credit file. It will now 
be totally impossible for any creditor to know anything about
your past credit history.

Step 5-
To guarantee that you will quickly have EXCELLENT CREDIT, we
will assist you in instantly adding UNLIMITED positive
information to your credit file. This is an unknown way of 
adding real accounts to your new credit file to give you an 
Excellent Credit Rating in less than 15 days. As you know, the 
more positive information on your credit file, the more money 
banks will lend you. Countless clients of ours have credit lines
over $100,000 because of our Proven Credit Advantage Program!

When we are finished you will receive a copy of your credit
file proving that you now have excellent credit! This will take
less than 15 days. You will now be able to easily qualify for
ANY credit you apply for! To be on the road to EXCELLENT CREDIT
simply send us your name, complete mailing address including 
zip code and telephone number (optional), along with a check
or money order payable to American Financial Services Inc. 
for $29.95. 

Send to: 
American Financial Services Inc.
Attn.: Mike Robbins
311 N. Robertson Blvd. 
Suite 625
Beverly Hills, CA 90210

All necessary paperwork along with a telephone number to contact
us for assistance will be sent to you priority mailed to you 
within 3 business days.

   $$$$ RISK FREE DOUBLE YOUR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!!  $$$$

My Proven Credit Advantage Program unconditionally guarantees 
you will qualify for personal loans, business loans, credit 
cards, auto loans, home loans and any other credit you apply for!

If you are not able to qualify for credit after using my program, 
simply return your Proven Credit Advantage Program along with
your denial letter and your $29.95 investment will be refunded
DOUBLE! That's a $59.90 refund if this doesn't work like I said!

I make this guarantee to you because the Proven Credit Advantage
Program has already helped over 15,000 people just like you.
I KNOW it works - all you need to do is sign up TODAY! I truly 
look forward to making you another SATISFIED CLIENT!!
................................................................
Yes! I deserve excellent credit. Please enroll me in the Proven
Credit Advantage Program. Enclosed is my check/money order for 
$29.95. The following information is for our records only and 
does not need to be your new credit file information.

First Name______________________________

Last Name________________________________

Address__________________________________

City_____________________________________

State_______________Zip__________________

Telephone(optional)______________________

e-mail___________________________________

If you would prefer to download your Proven Credit Advantage
Program, simply check below and we will e-mail you a download 
upon receipt of your order. Otherwise we will Priority Mail your 
program to the above address.


___ Please e-mail me my PROVEN CREDIT ADVANTAGE PROGRAM to the 
    above e-mail address.

___ Please send me my PROVEN CREDIT ADVANTAGE PROGRAM via 
    United States Priority Mail to the above address.


Send $29.95 to: 
American Financial Services Inc.
Attn: Mike Robbins
311 N. Robertson Blvd. 
Suite 625
Beverly Hills, CA 90210


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