From michael@stroeder.com Wed Aug 7 11:57:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A3121F9D9A for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:57:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6pB4GhYGcPqI for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.stroeder.com (srv1.stroeder.com [213.240.180.113]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F8F21F9E94 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A83360212 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:57:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stroeder.com Received: from srv1.stroeder.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv1.stroeder.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6O-pyYLreQP4 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:56:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nb2.stroeder.local (unknown [10.1.0.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 093C56018C for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 18:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52029871.7030602@stroeder.com> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:56:49 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGFlbCBTdHLDtmRlcg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ldapext References: <20130807185454.15858.35975.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130807185454.15858.35975.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20130807185454.15858.35975.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020901030608070900090005" Subject: [ldapext] draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-03.txt X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 18:57:10 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020901030608070900090005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI! Please review this draft intended to be published as informational RFC. Thanks in advance. Ciao, Michael. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ***UNCHECKED*** New Version Notification for draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-03.txt Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:54:54 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Michael Stroeder A new version of I-D, draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-03.txt has been successfully submitted by Michael Stroeder and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject Revision: 03 Title: Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP): Auxiliary Object C= lass 'mailboxRelatedObject' Creation date: 2013-08-07 Group: Individual Submission Number of pages: 4 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-0= 3.txt Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stroeder-mailboxrelated= object-03 Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-03= Abstract: This document defines the auxiliary object class 'mailboxRelatedObject' that can be used to associate an arbitrary object with a RFC 2822 mail address. Furthermore a attribute 'intlMailAdr' is defined for internationalized email addresses. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.58.170 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:20:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52029871.7030602@stroeder.com> References: <20130807185454.15858.35975.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <52029871.7030602@stroeder.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:20:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: Charlie To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael_Str=F6der?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ldapext Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-03.txt X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 19:20:05 -0000 Much needed. Thank you for tilting at this windmill. --Charlie On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Michael Str=F6der wr= ote: > HI! > > Please review this draft intended to be published as informational RFC. > Thanks in advance. > > Ciao, Michael. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: ***UNCHECKED*** New Version Notification for > draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-03.txt > Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:54:54 -0700 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: Michael Stroeder > > > A new version of I-D, draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-03.txt > has been successfully submitted by Michael Stroeder and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Filename: draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject > Revision: 03 > Title: Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP): Auxiliary = Object Class > 'mailboxRelatedObject' > Creation date: 2013-08-07 > Group: Individual Submission > Number of pages: 4 > URL: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-0= 3.txt > Status: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stroeder-mailboxrelated= object-03 > Diff: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-03 > > Abstract: > This document defines the auxiliary object class > 'mailboxRelatedObject' that can be used to associate an arbitrary > object with a RFC 2822 mail address. Furthermore a attribute > 'intlMailAdr' is defined for internationalized email addresses. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ldapext mailing list > Ldapext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ldapext > From michael@stroeder.com Thu Aug 8 00:24:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5EF21F9FFB for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 00:24:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W0f3AIeRt6W9 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 00:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.stroeder.com (srv1.stroeder.com [213.240.180.113]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADFC21F9097 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 00:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31C660294 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:24:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stroeder.com Received: from srv1.stroeder.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv1.stroeder.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GwlfeHHpWa_m for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:24:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nb2.stroeder.local (unknown [10.1.0.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01EBB6018C for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <520347AE.2080309@stroeder.com> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:24:30 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGFlbCBTdHLDtmRlcg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ldapext References: <20130808072029.30689.91871.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130808072029.30689.91871.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20130808072029.30689.91871.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000600050000030807040900" Subject: [ldapext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-04.txt X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 07:24:49 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000600050000030807040900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI! Some modifications based on comments I received off-list. Please review this draft intended to be published as informational RFC. Thanks in advance. Ouch! There's a typo in DESC of object class definition. Will change this= to RFC 2821 in next version. Ciao, Michael. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject= -04.txt Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 00:20:29 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Michael Stroeder A new version of I-D, draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-04.txt has been successfully submitted by Michael Stroeder and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject Revision: 04 Title: Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP): Auxiliary Object C= lass 'mailboxRelatedObject' Creation date: 2013-08-08 Group: Individual Submission Number of pages: 5 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-0= 4.txt Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stroeder-mailboxrelated= object-04 Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-04= Abstract: This document defines the auxiliary object class 'mailboxRelatedObject' that can be used to associate an arbitrary object with an Internet mail address. Furthermore an attribute 'intlMailAdr' is defined for storing fully internationalized Internet mail addresses. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Received: from [172.17.128.46] (richard.isode.com [62.3.217.249]) by statler.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPA id ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:39:02 +0100 Message-ID: <5203C9AA.20805@isode.com> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 17:39:06 +0100 From: Alexey Melnikov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael_Str=F6der?= References: <20130808072029.30689.91871.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <520347AE.2080309@stroeder.com> In-Reply-To: <520347AE.2080309@stroeder.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ldapext Subject: Re: [ldapext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-04.txt X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:39:11 -0000 On 08/08/2013 08:24, Michael Str=F6der wrote: > HI! > > Some modifications based on comments I received off-list. > > Please review this draft intended to be published as informational RFC. > Thanks in advance. > > Ouch! There's a typo in DESC of object class definition. Will change this = to > RFC 2821 in next version. Hi Michael, I reviewed the document and it mostly looks quite sensible. Some comments below: 2. Attribute Type Definition The attribute type 'intlMailAdr' is defined for storing SMTPUTF8 compliant addresses [RFC6530]. ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.5427.1.389.4.18 NAME 'intlMailAdr' DESC 'Internationalized Email Address' EQUALITY caseIgnoreMatch You describe problems with case-insensitive matching later in this=20 section. Why not just use caseExactMatch? Strictly speaking left hand=20 sides of email addresses are not ASCII case-insensitive. SUBSTR caseIgnoreSubstringsMatch SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.15 ) Note that the directory will not ensure that values of this attribute conform to the production [RFC2821]. RFC 2821 --> RFC 5321. 3. Object Class Definition Entries of auxiliary object class 'mailboxRelatedObject' MAY contain the following optional attributes: 'mail' [RFC4524] 'displayName' [RFC2798] 'intlMailAdr' ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.5427.1.389.6.9 NAME 'mailboxRelatedObject' DESC 'Associated RFC 2822 mailbox for any entry' Please use RFC 5322 here, which obsoleted RFC 2822. This also needs to=20 be added to the Normative References. Unless you meant RFC 5321 here. AUXILIARY MAY ( displayName $ mail $ intlMailAdr ) ) Best Regards, Alexey From medievalist@gmail.com Thu Aug 8 11:10:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDE411E81F9 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:10:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ojCuxnqyAVq4 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x236.google.com (mail-la0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A033F11E81DE for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id ea20so2384731lab.27 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 11:10:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cpJND8ryGM5RNTUcAofy4Mn5ejBtQcSdgBOteOwXqk8=; b=Qv4BeXE5szIjt3rW7L1YHPpKMt8oIE4+5B9fYhJoyRO68gnCcse1p7dWBo4i/+EZeS JUx/d4pXKyBiCS9mPgGTa1TflSQtNLlKVchaEPzn3aAXkGot46y1xdocqhsZKz+jNF/R dyqBTTLk25b11BqNdvVHarezzWqBgv1zxgk3oB1iO1EmdQzdnkZlvI8CVJ9V6TdgkBGO BNDVuZRzldNugdgAdVq7wZ6eM72GUJt9CbKKSfGGUDIfwhvbHcg6U8noxedp1Pd2KUep 1ahppAZWXguR3BhGt1rMDSuDxjdy90hRKzynK7XWBXi4ImFIJZcjAsYN6X1dOF9F4MDN Qh9Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.55.140 with SMTP id s12mr2918241lbp.42.1375985453317; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 11:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.58.170 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:10:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5203C9AA.20805@isode.com> References: <20130808072029.30689.91871.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <520347AE.2080309@stroeder.com> <5203C9AA.20805@isode.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:10:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: Charlie To: Alexey Melnikov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ldapext , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael_Str=F6der?= Subject: Re: [ldapext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-04.txt X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:10:56 -0000 >You describe problems with case-insensitive matching later in this section= . Why not just use caseExactMatch? Strictly speaking left hand sides of ema= il addresses are not ASCII case-insensitive. Because we already have lots of email schemas that are empirically useless in the real world. If you need a case-sensitive match, you just pull the case-insensitively matched data from the server, and quickly perform a second comparison in the client. This is trivial and imposes no great load on the server or client. The vast majority of email addresses in use today are case-insensitive. If your schema prevents case-insensitive matching on the server, all email address objects have to be pulled every single time an email is processed, so that the client code can do appropriately case-insensitive matching locally. --Charlie MeDiEVaLIsT@gMaIL.Com On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > On 08/08/2013 08:24, Michael Str=F6der wrote: >> >> HI! >> >> Some modifications based on comments I received off-list. >> >> Please review this draft intended to be published as informational RFC. >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Ouch! There's a typo in DESC of object class definition. Will change thi= s >> to >> RFC 2821 in next version. > > Hi Michael, > I reviewed the document and it mostly looks quite sensible. > > Some comments below: > > 2. Attribute Type Definition > > The attribute type 'intlMailAdr' is defined for storing SMTPUTF8 > compliant addresses [RFC6530]. > > ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.5427.1.389.4.18 > NAME 'intlMailAdr' > DESC 'Internationalized Email Address' > EQUALITY caseIgnoreMatch > > You describe problems with case-insensitive matching later in this sectio= n. > Why not just use caseExactMatch? Strictly speaking left hand sides of ema= il > addresses are not ASCII case-insensitive. > > SUBSTR caseIgnoreSubstringsMatch > SYNTAX 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.15 ) > > > Note that the directory will not ensure that values of this attribute > conform to the production [RFC2821]. > > RFC 2821 --> RFC 5321. > > > 3. Object Class Definition > > Entries of auxiliary object class 'mailboxRelatedObject' MAY contain > the following optional attributes: 'mail' [RFC4524] 'displayName' > [RFC2798] 'intlMailAdr' > > ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.5427.1.389.6.9 > NAME 'mailboxRelatedObject' > DESC 'Associated RFC 2822 mailbox for any entry' > > Please use RFC 5322 here, which obsoleted RFC 2822. This also needs to be > added to the Normative References. Unless you meant RFC 5321 here. > > AUXILIARY > MAY ( displayName $ mail $ intlMailAdr ) ) > > Best Regards, > Alexey > > _______________________________________________ > Ldapext mailing list > Ldapext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ldapext From michael@stroeder.com Thu Aug 8 11:39:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ABE11E8163 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:39:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W6EmF41r5d31 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.stroeder.com (srv1.stroeder.com [213.240.180.113]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C77211E80E2 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941A460305; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 20:39:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stroeder.com Received: from srv1.stroeder.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv1.stroeder.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NzFbb5kN1Cnm; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 20:39:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nb2.stroeder.local (unknown [10.1.0.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93BD660207; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 18:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5203E5C9.3060704@stroeder.com> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:39:05 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael_Str=F6der?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0 SeaMonkey/2.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexey Melnikov References: <20130808072029.30689.91871.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <520347AE.2080309@stroeder.com> <5203C9AA.20805@isode.com> In-Reply-To: <5203C9AA.20805@isode.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030003000702000000030904" Cc: ldapext Subject: Re: [ldapext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-04.txt X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:39:29 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030003000702000000030904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alexey, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > Some comments below: Thanks for your time. > 2. Attribute Type Definition >=20 > The attribute type 'intlMailAdr' is defined for storing SMTPUTF8 > compliant addresses [RFC6530]. >=20 > ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.5427.1.389.4.18 > NAME 'intlMailAdr' > DESC 'Internationalized Email Address' > EQUALITY caseIgnoreMatch >=20 > You describe problems with case-insensitive matching later in this sect= ion. > Why not just use caseExactMatch? Strictly speaking left hand sides of e= mail > addresses are not ASCII case-insensitive. 1. The definition of 'mail' in RFC 4524 also defines case-insensitive mat= ching rules. Mainly the text pointing out the issue was taken from RFC 4524. 2. All applications are used to that. Note that the most important use-ca= se is searching for / completing an e-mail address. Case-insensitive matching b= y default is more comfortable for that. 3. I'd rather expect only very few cases in which somebody want to add intlMailAdr: joe@example.com intlMailAdr: JOE@example.com to a *single* entry meaning two *different* mailboxes. Do you know of any= deployment like this? What would be the semantics for that? Note that 'intlMailAdr' is not meant as multi-valued attribute for mail g= roup entries for which such a case would be slightly more likely. Also note that case-insensitive matching is a different thing to case-preserving storage. I will add a note about the latter. I'd appreciate if you propose text making this more clear if you feel it'= s needed. > RFC 2821 --> RFC 5321. Thanks. Updated all occurences in next version. 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