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Nice to see some of you at LdapCon. Looking forward to = discussions on how we can further / improve standards. Shawn= From nobody Tue Oct 24 16:19:30 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D840313A9F5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 16:19:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6GFQvvQjBJdw for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 16:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D62DE139950 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 16:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79EEF82108 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:19:20 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 79EEF82108 Authentication-Results: ext-mx02.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx02.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=wibrown@redhat.com Received: from rei.prd.blackhats.net.au (vpn2-54-69.bne.redhat.com [10.64.54.69]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C997260A9D for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1508887157.20220.29.camel@redhat.com> From: William Brown To: ldapext@ietf.org Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:19:17 +1000 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-X0PzEkSHEia+HJ3oWzJR" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.26]); Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: Subject: [ldapext] Confirming subscription X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:19:29 -0000 --=-X0PzEkSHEia+HJ3oWzJR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Confirming I have joined the list correctly. What was the cutoff date we agreed to? 9th/10th November?=20 --=20 Sincerely, William Brown Software Engineer Red Hat, Australia/Brisbane --=-X0PzEkSHEia+HJ3oWzJR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJZ78p1AAoJEISUiynM+PAg2PUP/jHGXY45cpXZLmvb5xR0dx31 QF7P75NvLzGh43pi7Q2ZLWv+7WMIr1zt5Wb46I7LhbV+31Ly3GwPCHwFq5CH83Kv 0sPTAZXOSX0CjH+aDVvGm+BFwOk50gVXIvdaOBx4097HG1hX2mWvAYs0brs0/OAz 0beuim0Oa9sC7Kyc44+9hcuxglcMHeTwHKV/Bol6tj7beVSBc5UgYyiuBEMEn+58 lwEHAMc877nVLDhpEY5M0KD2RfaTs6GDkejFqeuzfqzHtx1u/lQ05xl8ReCxEjWP ew9JU+JT4E68porKUCqNPF2WWLtozjdl2GWJISjARaeHJbGGKxL/SLkTIJugqrqu JCAqOIKpgRBI6QpmN+OJHGSQ6CQFS52unkrihLYtSPQfC4FOe4g/fQjlQ/YPXPdU 0TMjuNnhYadeDlcX7bE4EpkVYEh0GXOvL16EfCx/dRqfanrjY9ghQ/ob8CblCyM4 UAAY1FRVIlC+/3NG55RJWlr0UrEXw+OF5ksdxDteYstbY6MVyFAZi5IZqXiHH/1x FVlmTFq8ncjJoM/owi11mU2HiDVXS1WsIS3WUHM1pVf+JbNW54jVUUKumqFWu3s4 hX22vMxqSFeP5qZ6n83KD/X+XxmyOxMe9I52rcGISXrLrC5KAyI8vpCtnR4xEJdJ JB4YLzcu7BqdQzwEF+yX =kJLq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-X0PzEkSHEia+HJ3oWzJR-- From nobody Tue Oct 24 23:48:24 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9931139436 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:48:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O-vpez8aR6qw for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.stroeder.com (srv1.stroeder.com [213.240.180.113]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48B0D13942F for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.hv.local (mail.stroeder.local [10.1.1.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.stroeder.local", Issuer "stroeder.com Server CA no. 2009-07" (not verified)) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29A555EC for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:48:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nb2.stroeder.local (nb2.stroeder.local [10.1.1.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail1.hv.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01BF77D for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:48:17 +0200 (CEST) To: ldapext@ietf.org References: <1508887157.20220.29.camel@redhat.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_Str=c3=b6der?= Openpgp: id=43C8730E84A20E560722806C07DC7AE36A8BC938 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:48:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1508887157.20220.29.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms040304050000060807000904" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] Confirming subscription X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:48:24 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040304050000060807000904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable William Brown wrote: > Confirming I have joined the list correctly. Ludwig's also on board? > What was the cutoff date > we agreed to? 9th/10th November?=20 We agreed that it should be feasible to agree on a ldapext charter mid of November. For all who did not attend LDAPcon 2017: Some people discussed there to restart discussing a possible ldapext WG charter starting from the draft Ludo posted to the list two years ago: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ldapext/4fEh3Y9adJEl24r2F0598bnXrcg= /?qid=3Df94a915c2574190c029541bc1d190a5e There were more things discussed. 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certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A80AC7C849; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:36:44 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com A80AC7C849 Authentication-Results: ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=wibrown@redhat.com Received: from rei.prd.blackhats.net.au (vpn2-54-69.bne.redhat.com [10.64.54.69]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C339A173CB; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1509061001.20220.89.camel@redhat.com> From: William Brown To: Michael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Str=F6der?= , ldapext@ietf.org Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:36:41 +1000 In-Reply-To: References: <1508887157.20220.29.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-0/Nhr3uDQ/HjM5S7p9wI" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.15 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] Confirming subscription X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:36:47 -0000 --=-0/Nhr3uDQ/HjM5S7p9wI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 08:48 +0200, Michael Str=C3=B6der wrote: > William Brown wrote: > > Confirming I have joined the list correctly. >=20 > Ludwig's also on board? I have contacted him and the rest of the 389-ds team to subscribe also. Ludwig was very interested, and I'll follow up to make sure he joins :) >=20 > > What was the cutoff date > > we agreed to? 9th/10th November?=C2=A0 >=20 > We agreed that it should be feasible to agree on a ldapext charter > mid > of November. >=20 > For all who did not attend LDAPcon 2017: > Some people discussed there to restart discussing a possible ldapext > WG > charter starting from the draft Ludo posted to the list two years > ago: >=20 > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ldapext/4fEh3Y9adJEl24r2F0598bn > Xrcg/?qid=3Df94a915c2574190c029541bc1d190a5e >=20 > There were more things discussed. Please visit the list archive to > recap: >=20 > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=3Dldapext Cool. So I'll read these, but can you summarise what is the process and steps we need to focus on to get this moving? That way we try to stay focused and avoid distraction. >=20 --=20 Sincerely, William Brown Software Engineer Red Hat, Australia/Brisbane --=-0/Nhr3uDQ/HjM5S7p9wI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJZ8nGJAAoJEISUiynM+PAgZGcP/3p9mSduqT0WcNt46xOacpIn 1yVR4sjTjIFPa4Kkc6Uq6v1jJzr0y0bVXSkwYM5Kheyu4F4IwqfwVjOq5SMXOASH Cu2hnQSVK9I7lANw77L2PO5nhqpOfRkepPNOx8nSDBi1I7iq7zWx2TD/mSDZ8E5T ycE2jAO+PHgnZJHTE53Boew+hY8MCKY0KOdugZSijFMQwvJ7nMV5a52SOekvlIof jmyuGpT3Aizy4CCi05VwjXrxxxiTaD3Zw/VaNJX/BUIRBukat2jR8GVrVLwlkGi+ fgD/IvQ/YNINGaJUhWZgrsdAeQ4vhbMk4MUZb2CTvcH+PCQ2JeFN+7kWLlqvKoaU bUwYEKClzVqrP4IHpcNXFJJstNkex5iQY31HGcvC3YnM4GpEi2iP+JYW22ptnToq PP4YDVlE+2+RGqmE+hWkIdilg4StIsmr7QNuqguye588XlOqKNQy5UcbG9P4dIfy /lRi5nv3oOwhWK7jocJ8NN+XKDYVYCNyFX5/seF+2GuTrJa78ebXvuF0fEXs6UaJ uhFjruizLMXama2pFSdugu4i5VKLMRepnSFB3sQYUp329FbIOXogfk3zrZdtefJZ 446L4Cn/gP7eDwE2f/HcfVHyMkvWJeytDImKHpDAmOeqR1Y/PrgyTQjOMNy77xmF HH3E1RT7dfn7+M9Ue0Vw =MbW9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-0/Nhr3uDQ/HjM5S7p9wI-- From nobody Thu Oct 26 16:48:16 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2931389AC for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:48:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yo_xkzlsBgRL for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C64413B472 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx04.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA234C0587CA for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:39:22 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com AA234C0587CA Authentication-Results: ext-mx08.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx08.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=wibrown@redhat.com Received: from rei.prd.blackhats.net.au (vpn2-54-69.bne.redhat.com [10.64.54.69]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06BA95D733 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> From: William Brown To: ldapext@ietf.org Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:39:19 +1000 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-PCHOVWgn2Pcnc7y/6IAp" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.14 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.32]); Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: Subject: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:48:14 -0000 --=-PCHOVWgn2Pcnc7y/6IAp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ldapext/4fEh3Y9adJEl24r2F0598bnXr cg/?qid=3Df94a915c2574190c029541bc1d190a5e as posted my Michael, I think this looks good. I would say we just need to update the list of members of said boards/groups to be current and make sure everyone is still interested in the roles (and understands their responsibilities) Second, I think we need a section in there about future work? We seem to list only "lets clean things" as a group, but shouldn't we say " our charter is to clean up the draft standards and then continue working on curation of new standards"?=20 Otherwise, I think this is good :) the sooner we agree on this, the sooner we can start the important work, Thanks, --=20 Sincerely, William Brown Software Engineer Red Hat, Australia/Brisbane --=-PCHOVWgn2Pcnc7y/6IAp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJZ8nInAAoJEISUiynM+PAgVvgQAKAiaAs3RNETS7yor9uT8KXZ 4jg5QRaQL3fb6WTMZeAZw+twxXjLTJ23mI77LFwkU/kEIQF4dtRjZZyoIEMsqfqW 7q+E/IizCSXItncRjlD+W2TY7BIIVhi6naZlUzSdfXGFB3pkePYo+P1hpPjS1EbH 5aM96ABgQiTwLYcVyGz9zn5eMS8WTksB5VhrbqbH5rroMNKODCCWwrbadKY6KEe1 TcenW9+Pjto5e0+OJHUHaDnqOAN8ZXfv1NTqzMFYVxkwxYxlbjcZZYUgKGcSxFw3 EY7iLoD+cWhF2d8qfeP+I5av1+YOB8kfErVarmDD5D56mDFBhsCTcAYRLB4vWC4q 9zeHos85/dAAJtPI10TrOqLC4MnSd0sKrtziNtIh+ThVAZzANBJsHdrGC7HdRJjO IMusD6cxQZuutc5NTYMZe+olbhjmAE9ZZWFb9cgmewR3GaIbQDUpHS7DxfeLg3Eo wuV9OQWJGKp7mnksHzu4GJ//z4cN8yeOifdfApuBRRMdyw7VzgracNpXxfZLSlfV rEAQKvGDrqWeBYzd1WPmug6MrMkSOElWrYF9OubLZQ6+02mxcuMSn/g4JZiUcOll VPNcgLEQIfnBSUbSPe0YKL0Tri128ler2zvMsfkvxxTmk3fu/+t6e7obzXakdRC2 0xIa6K5Wioar97El+cLz =Hw70 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-PCHOVWgn2Pcnc7y/6IAp-- From nobody Thu Oct 26 17:07:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D123139F44 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:07:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=highlandsun.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nBHzRYuemr27 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.highlandsun.com (mail.highlandsun.com [173.255.205.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B267C138B5E for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.highlandsun.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B061100F; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:07:03 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=highlandsun.com; s=mail; t=1509062824; bh=yMB93wr/2dWsr/M3ATvR3/qns45fwhJGABB/lGgpLt0=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=vxKM8tfloB2lSZGVe7qdXlJ1j2vKzL0QDwrQrari7WHJcm+ajzl4XRqB6DgYP6xTU /r3XplOaY2ZS7JNx/jVKMl09X4fkniKCpZzohZa9FvjRPlpdMNBHTDhAdr5xe4j1vF elhDh4ajvOiH/xPgrJMTxt73qOKF2l2eR9B3033WV+NYpk7cjzQ0ngIqDhhfAM8toH cfemgn/rJSw0pGaitGxifVsZPgmHxnlyeVDb1jLr46s7zwtfMwWkVw5v3oreE3pdpD ZUvizHkr7WUt9lZu2pDNRhDvqatQ8VzEHBrjYE+7PCLSyhlHofcOBROvDDHxPrEQEV yEzfyYqoQBoQw== To: William Brown , ldapext@ietf.org References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> From: Howard Chu Message-ID: <02ca8531-454c-4034-1402-346a299c331c@highlandsun.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:07:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:56.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/56.0 SeaMonkey/2.53a1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:07:06 -0000 William Brown wrote: > Hi all, > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ldapext/4fEh3Y9adJEl24r2F0598bnXr > cg/?qid=f94a915c2574190c029541bc1d190a5e > > as posted my Michael, > > I think this looks good. I would say we just need to update the list of > members of said boards/groups to be current and make sure everyone is > still interested in the roles (and understands their responsibilities) > > Second, I think we need a section in there about future work? We seem > to list only "lets clean things" as a group, but shouldn't we say " our > charter is to clean up the draft standards and then continue working on > curation of new standards"? I think nobody at the time was going to be so ambitious as to work on new standards. ;) But since you mention it, do you have any examples of things you'd like to see in new specs? > > Otherwise, I think this is good :) the sooner we agree on this, the > sooner we can start the important work, -- -- Howard Chu CTO, Symas Corp. http://www.symas.com Director, Highland Sun http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ Chief Architect, OpenLDAP http://www.openldap.org/project/ From nobody Thu Oct 26 17:16:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78A813B261 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:16:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n1Z7eUIdWdIx for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42D6A13A302 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE5D880F9F; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:16:54 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com DE5D880F9F Authentication-Results: ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=wibrown@redhat.com Received: from rei.prd.blackhats.net.au (vpn2-54-69.bne.redhat.com [10.64.54.69]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04F175C6D9; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1509063411.20220.101.camel@redhat.com> From: William Brown To: Howard Chu , ldapext@ietf.org Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:16:51 +1000 In-Reply-To: <02ca8531-454c-4034-1402-346a299c331c@highlandsun.com> References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> <02ca8531-454c-4034-1402-346a299c331c@highlandsun.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-JrSfgHGZN3SSaS8EKB+C" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:16:57 -0000 --=-JrSfgHGZN3SSaS8EKB+C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2017-10-27 at 01:07 +0100, Howard Chu wrote: > William Brown wrote: > > Hi all, > >=20 > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ldapext/4fEh3Y9adJEl24r2F0598 > > bnXr > > cg/?qid=3Df94a915c2574190c029541bc1d190a5e > >=20 > > as posted my Michael, > >=20 > > I think this looks good. I would say we just need to update the > > list of > > members of said boards/groups to be current and make sure everyone > > is > > still interested in the roles (and understands their > > responsibilities) > >=20 > > Second, I think we need a section in there about future work? We > > seem > > to list only "lets clean things" as a group, but shouldn't we say " > > our > > charter is to clean up the draft standards and then continue > > working on > > curation of new standards"? >=20 > I think nobody at the time was going to be so ambitious as to work on > new=C2=A0 > standards. ;) Better have it and not need it, than need it and not have it?=20 >=20 > But since you mention it, do you have any examples of things you'd > like to see=C2=A0 > in new specs? I believe you and I were discussing an extension for query execution plans with searches so that we could standardise our requests for these? But lets not get off topic only 2 days into this :)=20 > >=20 > > Otherwise, I think this is good :) the sooner we agree on this, the > > sooner we can start the important work, >=20 >=20 --=20 Sincerely, William Brown Software Engineer Red Hat, Australia/Brisbane --=-JrSfgHGZN3SSaS8EKB+C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJZ8nrzAAoJEISUiynM+PAgkCgP/ja6bNhA5rA+JKpy3Q0j9Xj9 RKrPP/RtBBo/NHKbKkd/Cx9ps2p5HXaO/Wa3lUlgT1CGCmetV0ixpbKpzALavxJ+ rAY7q9SXHrVDhyF4zuPijKO4W0gQPy6sybsStWbo5biVlbEqCPo/TU2f67xc7Z/4 KC9P5Q7yRdoz73AKajwkZpGiANBazN1qugZ7Bd6ljUHGZvjDMunnpZeccNzwrsZ7 s4k56SiM8n9TEpGTpenWC/4DBwTxeo/YhVg4lsP9vVCfaXwNPwq/Laj0vrftxpxV jwoXBkf6WkJFASXb9ThFoQyQMp5dDw2ZqGuDtCkBw2URtmJfO60/fhEUtgKwAB2+ fkoEss5fEEnOr6I/TMYwsUJeVDpkjgCa0+v1MFuizSo3WKnuq/A1/0N/eAOfSU/6 O14NXxQwLdebcfdFQfQ+tuI4adoIvR4a/OLv7TU6mJN5i/MNa1pqfqNue+1SoI2I jhqTMOPxJaTF4lOtwuCZrvXZpRreTAdFBWOwXTBAdDTMAzK587bbaTzq1+lFQKoR /XHSLoplpzu06R9Rla1FYLf+m1e0MobThEzeJ2pGZlLznY8f5QlOWYMCE/8Ul2F6 qPqySScvrOsnuESZbN5VQ2fzDG0UnoaMTinZSeiyn/TebhsMu0SND8I9DNKw1bhc RjvsqoG1Nz1RSyl0RfzF =spQt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-JrSfgHGZN3SSaS8EKB+C-- From nobody Fri Oct 27 00:17:20 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4591E13B11B for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:17:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xMHatrofUG1S for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E08AE13AB66 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AF556A7C0 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 07:17:16 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 8AF556A7C0 Authentication-Results: ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=lkrispen@redhat.com Received: from [10.36.117.23] (ovpn-117-23.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.117.23]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281C660BE9 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 07:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <59F2DE48.6050905@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:20:40 +0200 From: Ludwig Krispenz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ldapext@ietf.org References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> <02ca8531-454c-4034-1402-346a299c331c@highlandsun.com> In-Reply-To: <02ca8531-454c-4034-1402-346a299c331c@highlandsun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Fri, 27 Oct 2017 07:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 07:17:18 -0000 On 10/27/2017 02:07 AM, Howard Chu wrote: > William Brown wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ldapext/4fEh3Y9adJEl24r2F0598bnXr >> cg/?qid=f94a915c2574190c029541bc1d190a5e >> >> as posted my Michael, >> >> I think this looks good. I would say we just need to update the list of >> members of said boards/groups to be current and make sure everyone is >> still interested in the roles (and understands their responsibilities) >> >> Second, I think we need a section in there about future work? We seem >> to list only "lets clean things" as a group, but shouldn't we say " our >> charter is to clean up the draft standards and then continue working on >> curation of new standards"? > > I think nobody at the time was going to be so ambitious as to work on > new standards. ;) > > But since you mention it, do you have any examples of things you'd > like to see in new specs? nothing new from my side, but what I am missing is the topics of extending ldap transactions and sync repl - as we discussed in Edinburgh >> >> Otherwise, I think this is good :) the sooner we agree on this, the >> sooner we can start the important work, > -- Red Hat GmbH, http://www.de.redhat.com/, Registered seat: Grasbrunn, Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243, Managing Directors: Charles Cachera, Michael Cunningham, Michael O'Neill, Eric Shander From nobody Fri Oct 27 01:13:45 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8BB13F606 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:13:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A97uQPUCVXHg for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.stroeder.com (srv1.stroeder.com [213.240.180.113]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74F3D13F602 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.hv.local (mail.stroeder.local [10.1.1.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.stroeder.local", Issuer "stroeder.com Server CA no. 2009-07" (not verified)) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5AE3598; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:13:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nb2.stroeder.local (nb2.stroeder.local [10.1.1.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail1.hv.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 964D997; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:13:37 +0200 (CEST) To: William Brown , ldapext@ietf.org References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> <02ca8531-454c-4034-1402-346a299c331c@highlandsun.com> <1509063411.20220.101.camel@redhat.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_Str=c3=b6der?= Openpgp: id=43C8730E84A20E560722806C07DC7AE36A8BC938 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:13:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1509063411.20220.101.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms060202030806040800020101" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:13:44 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060202030806040800020101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable William Brown wrote: > On Fri, 2017-10-27 at 01:07 +0100, Howard Chu wrote: >> William Brown wrote: >>> Second, I think we need a section in there about future work? We=20 >>> seem to list only "lets clean things" as a group, but shouldn't >>> we say " our charter is to clean up the draft standards and then >>> continue working on curation of new standards"?>> >> I think nobody at the time was going to be so ambitious as to work >> on new standards. ;)> > Better have it and not need it, than need it and not have it?=20 Note that we have to prove to the area director that we are able to form a WG which is capable of getting real work done. And AFAIK the WGs are not meant to exist forever. We can recharter later to add whatever we want to do. But IMO we should do this *after* getting current work done. Also note you're free to post individual I-Ds at any time and the WG can decide at any time whether those get WG work items or not. To me it seems this whole IETF process is pretty flexible. Therefore we don't have to consider the future now. So for now let's stick to most important work items and see whether we manage to get those done. 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nb2.stroeder.local (nb2.stroeder.local [10.1.1.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail1.hv.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60AEC97; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:16:09 +0200 (CEST) To: Ludwig Krispenz , ldapext@ietf.org References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> <02ca8531-454c-4034-1402-346a299c331c@highlandsun.com> <59F2DE48.6050905@redhat.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_Str=c3=b6der?= Openpgp: id=43C8730E84A20E560722806C07DC7AE36A8BC938 Message-ID: <13c3dc67-b3c2-64f6-afae-d6df27a485e0@stroeder.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:16:09 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59F2DE48.6050905@redhat.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050607060802080809030108" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:16:12 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050607060802080809030108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ludwig Krispenz wrote: > [..] what I am missing is the topics of > extending ldap transactions and sync repl - as we discussed in Edinburg= h Ludwig, could you come up with some text describing this as concrete work items? Then we can discuss whether to add that or not. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.16 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:28:47 -0000 On 10/27/2017 10:16 AM, Michael Ströder wrote: > Ludwig Krispenz wrote: >> [..] what I am missing is the topics of >> extending ldap transactions and sync repl - as we discussed in Edinburgh > Ludwig, could you come up with some text describing this as concrete > work items? Then we can discuss whether to add that or not. ok, one is: extend rfc4533 - Content Synchronization Operation to support ldap transactions the other one was raised at ldapcon2015 by ChristianHollenstein to extend rfc 5805 - LDAP transaction to allow a client to define the txn id and to allow to omit the txn control after a txn was started. Howard said he also had the need for some extensions to the protocol, but I do not remember what exactly. So I have some difficulties to find the right wording > > Ciao, Michael. > -- Red Hat GmbH, http://www.de.redhat.com/, Registered seat: Grasbrunn, Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243, Managing Directors: Charles Cachera, Michael Cunningham, Michael O'Neill, Eric Shander From nobody Fri Oct 27 03:31:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DA613B13B for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:31:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CozwqCUPZsjq for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FE1B13A5A3 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx04.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2062560177 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:31:20 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 2062560177 Authentication-Results: ext-mx01.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx01.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=lkrispen@redhat.com Received: from [10.36.117.23] (ovpn-117-23.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.117.23]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AE05D96D for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <59F30BC9.3030603@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:34:49 +0200 From: Ludwig Krispenz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ldapext@ietf.org References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> <02ca8531-454c-4034-1402-346a299c331c@highlandsun.com> <59F2DE48.6050905@redhat.com> <13c3dc67-b3c2-64f6-afae-d6df27a485e0@stroeder.com> <59F30B2E.9030807@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <59F30B2E.9030807@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.14 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.25]); Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:31:22 -0000 On 10/27/2017 12:32 PM, Ludwig Krispenz wrote: > > On 10/27/2017 10:16 AM, Michael Ströder wrote: >> Ludwig Krispenz wrote: >>> [..] what I am missing is the topics of >>> extending ldap transactions and sync repl - as we discussed in >>> Edinburgh >> Ludwig, could you come up with some text describing this as concrete >> work items? Then we can discuss whether to add that or not. > ok, one is: > extend rfc4533 - Content Synchronization Operation to support ldap > transactions and there is a draft: https://docs.ldap.com/specs/draft-spacek-ldapext-syncrepl-transaction-01.txt > > the other one was raised at ldapcon2015 by ChristianHollenstein to > extend rfc 5805 - LDAP transaction to allow a client to define the > txn id and to allow to omit the txn control after a txn was started. > Howard said he also had the need for some extensions to the protocol, > but I do not remember what exactly. So I have some difficulties to > find the right wording >> >> Ciao, Michael. >> > -- Red Hat GmbH, http://www.de.redhat.com/, Registered seat: Grasbrunn, Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243, Managing Directors: Charles Cachera, Michael Cunningham, Michael O'Neill, Eric Shander