From nobody Thu Nov 2 00:53:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F09F13FA64 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 00:53:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F04jGwDkYMD8 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 00:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D5DD13F9F5 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 00:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDC76356C2 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 07:53:52 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com BDC76356C2 Authentication-Results: ext-mx06.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx06.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=wibrown@redhat.com Received: from rei.prd.blackhats.net.au (vpn2-54-19.bne.redhat.com [10.64.54.19]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8BC8600D2; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 07:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1509609229.19153.48.camel@redhat.com> From: William Brown To: Ludwig Krispenz , ldapext@ietf.org Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 17:53:49 +1000 In-Reply-To: <59F30BC9.3030603@redhat.com> References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> <02ca8531-454c-4034-1402-346a299c331c@highlandsun.com> <59F2DE48.6050905@redhat.com> <13c3dc67-b3c2-64f6-afae-d6df27a485e0@stroeder.com> <59F30B2E.9030807@redhat.com> <59F30BC9.3030603@redhat.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-IrLWB0T2LrXS4kJftoaw" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.30]); Thu, 02 Nov 2017 07:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 07:53:55 -0000 --=-IrLWB0T2LrXS4kJftoaw Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2017-10-27 at 12:34 +0200, Ludwig Krispenz wrote: > On 10/27/2017 12:32 PM, Ludwig Krispenz wrote: > >=20 > > On 10/27/2017 10:16 AM, Michael Str=C3=B6der wrote: > > > Ludwig Krispenz wrote: > > > > [..] what I am missing is the topics of > > > > extending ldap transactions and sync repl - as we discussed in=C2= =A0 > > > > Edinburgh > > >=20 > > > Ludwig, could you come up with some text describing this as > > > concrete > > > work items? Then we can discuss whether to add that or not. > >=20 > > ok, one is: > > extend rfc4533 - Content Synchronization Operation to support ldap=C2= =A0 > > transactions >=20 > and there is a draft:=C2=A0 > https://docs.ldap.com/specs/draft-spacek-ldapext-syncrepl-transaction > -01.txt > >=20 > > the other one was raised at ldapcon2015 by ChristianHollenstein to=C2= =A0 > > extend rfc 5805=C2=A0=C2=A0- LDAP transaction to allow a client to defi= ne > > the=C2=A0 > > txn id and to allow to omit the txn control after a txn was > > started.=C2=A0 > > Howard said he also had the need for some extensions to the > > protocol,=C2=A0 > > but I do not remember what exactly. So I have some difficulties to=C2= =A0 > > find the right wording > > >=20 > > > Ciao, Michael. > > >=20 >=20 Hey Michael, Did you want to add these two comments to the charter?=20 What date are we calling as the cut off and submission?=20 Have we updated our list of glorious participants on the charter? Thanks so much for pushing this forwards :)=20 --=20 Sincerely, William Brown Software Engineer Red Hat, Australia/Brisbane --=-IrLWB0T2LrXS4kJftoaw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJZ+s8NAAoJEISUiynM+PAgNW0QAKNFoP58f7RtEaUsrOaDL6MX 9fp1hFU4C3FHeJ2mUGuGBrspY0MbF9E0NGInV4BVrXYKeZSI1B06NSl9kiB8HZCn R7E2VhvPDQhAtuuJtKakD41qEIwvC1nZzTGXXn7eMEZpptYOClPiz1n25Vp9EcLy UelTFe4HBUmR5IaB9HFAYTc9SOiFxSpiNDWd4wLO0RpUraTXG7wrHKX/wIBvKhiw rv3I3cBvdWkItOqwRWDvLdyxGqVpQu98P/o5Ng1o6+/VyK3VLheKPcax7V2SmBNK a50ifzpUp9RntSnUUmthxbc6fVHp9tek7JqZiGhFzhCrC7wmETbuICf9traI7yrv Qc0zn6cch9I7HZ0xtc8PsATNpk0llFCKEx9PJwEphRMEi4FM5/ULT4Sr02iF9Zmu 8dc+s/eHn/Drqe3YZAnqhvWVin95k/kLJToy1i47WbwVqNt3p3b4BQUOAKpRnVXB W8MdWYjxuoyXFps8fECp1tFU6ssZn7ebyL2W+uYI2rLYdMfdyFl/sZrpABLezvMi VA4LRDIwnWjHTHYom2CCONMLU15Cr16ykdQHg0mJLPVKyiGUPSjQq7LtKZDjtYz2 xAdOKyy1d1Clsj3u5xtcf849BUAvbbgpjoMiayUuy0MI0O+HBCRB1Yr391xs2f71 mwN4G5saptAWLneq98wS =OCXw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-IrLWB0T2LrXS4kJftoaw-- From nobody Thu Nov 2 06:34:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3E613F708 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 06:34:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.301 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=sys4.de Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4BnB3TYjD-Vi for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 06:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sys4.de (mail.sys4.de [194.126.158.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 309211394F2 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 06:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pink.fritz.box (p5DD6F920.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.214.249.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sys4.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ySQyh2Xkwz1PCB for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 14:33:32 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=sys4.de; s=dk-sys4-de-201501; t=1509629612; bh=Mx8WHIYkfeQ1S1Hb8Ku+JV5mT9HvtFnY5KcUf2cimfI=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=RSKFGJaZQzN47ACVRZAB+s42S+qyuu8AzbDRuRQVbjKzluSY/tGR602huf6siSHVQ oom0zQfZ4NlT1hzgOQTQCqXh1i+lxIcFJzPozFF91GcE/0S12VhWy6fi6Sxv9BuP/a V492w+lhoTeBq/Av+L8Aed/4TYmxcqD+w7cpqzv+LULaX59atm3A/CnIHxxEEt++AI 3jGi32M5uMOV3h6CAOCZTtywH2aZ2Fwy2yW/1WeDQMs0h1wb6Xwe2jWvQ1/WO0PAR9 dED8FyQsd8g1/9OnxMCtytaTOy+kSmXT2Q0/QPObXKhJ6zFXM6kvxGS/3SrhwNoayA sygaATSCATHWA== To: ldapext@ietf.org References: <1508887157.20220.29.camel@redhat.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Dieter_Kl=c3=bcnter?= Message-ID: <81afb95a-907f-c2da-d3fa-155ec7d9d0d3@sys4.de> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 14:34:05 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9FF72DA6DB086D3E3E9D8405" Content-Language: de-DE X-Sigh: S/MIME sigh milter - version 1607.1.5 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] Confirming subscription X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 13:34:14 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9FF72DA6DB086D3E3E9D8405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Am 25.10.2017 um 08:48 schrieb Michael Ströder: > William Brown wrote: >> Confirming I have joined the list correctly. > Ludwig's also on board? > >> What was the cutoff date >> we agreed to? 9th/10th November? > We agreed that it should be feasible to agree on a ldapext charter mid > of November. > > For all who did not attend LDAPcon 2017: > Some people discussed there to restart discussing a possible ldapext WG > charter starting from the draft Ludo posted to the list two years ago: > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ldapext/4fEh3Y9adJEl24r2F0598bnXrcg/?qid=f94a915c2574190c029541bc1d190a5e > > There were more things discussed. Please visit the list archive to recap: > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=ldapext > AFAIK ART area directors have changed. It seems Ben Campbell, Alexey Melnikov and Adam Roach now are responsible area directors. 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Then we can discuss whether to add that or not. >> ok, one is: >> extend rfc4533 - Content Synchronization Operation to support ldap >> transactions > and there is a draft: > https://docs.ldap.com/specs/draft-spacek-ldapext-syncrepl-transaction-0= 1.txt AFAICS this was never submitted as a I-D to IETF. Or did I overlook something? @Ludwig: Could you please contact the author and clarify whether he's still willing to work on this? 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1eC064-0004DT-IQ; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 09:23:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 09:23:04 +0000 From: Andrew Findlay To: William Brown Cc: ldapext@ietf.org Message-ID: <20171107092304.GM25671@slab.skills-1st.co.uk> References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: Andrew Findlay Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 09:27:53 -0000 On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 09:39:19AM +1000, William Brown wrote: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ldapext/4fEh3Y9adJEl24r2F0598bnXrcg/?qid=f94a915c2574190c029541bc1d190a5e Looks good to me, and I am certainly willing to do some of the work. What was inetOrgPerson 2.0 all about? Andrew -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | From Andrew Findlay, Skills 1st Ltd | | Consultant in large-scale systems, networks, and directory services | | http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/ +44 1628 782565 | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Tue Nov 7 01:53:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068CD13FCB4 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 01:53:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t_vwgZfG8bpd for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 01:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.stroeder.com (srv1.stroeder.com [213.240.180.113]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1ED5B13FCDE for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 01:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.hv.local (mail.stroeder.local [10.1.1.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.stroeder.local", Issuer "stroeder.com Server CA no. 2009-07" (not verified)) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B6A54E4; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 10:53:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from nb2.stroeder.local (nb2.stroeder.local [10.1.1.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail1.hv.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E340F9D; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 10:53:09 +0100 (CET) To: Andrew Findlay Cc: ldapext@ietf.org References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> <20171107092304.GM25671@slab.skills-1st.co.uk> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_Str=c3=b6der?= Openpgp: id=43C8730E84A20E560722806C07DC7AE36A8BC938 Message-ID: <9246dd86-5e02-38d8-5425-a0c48199ffa4@stroeder.com> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 10:53:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171107092304.GM25671@slab.skills-1st.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050200060209000304000109" Archived-At: Subject: [ldapext] inetOrgPerson 2.0 (was: draft charter comment) X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 09:53:30 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050200060209000304000109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrew Findlay wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 09:39:19AM +1000, William Brown wrote: >=20 >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ldapext/4fEh3Y9adJEl24r2F0598bnX= rcg/?qid=3Df94a915c2574190c029541bc1d190a5e >=20 > Looks good to me, and I am certainly willing to do some of the work. Glad to hear that. > What was inetOrgPerson 2.0 all about? Missing attributes we all add later by defining yet another custom person object class. Possible examples: birthName, birthPlace, buildingName, businessTitle, c (alias countryName), dateOfBirth, delegatesTo, employeeType, gender, nickName, organizationalStatus, personalTitle, serialNumber, uniqueIdentifier, userClass I'm pretty sure many of us have other attributes to add. We could try to build up on the schema work in the higher-education community but should carefully try avoid bloat. We could also consider to deprecate use of some attributes in new deployments. As recommendation for local profiles we might even define DIT content rules with NOT as formal but optional deprecation spec. 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=?UTF-8?Q?Dieter_Kl=c3=bcnter?= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 12:22:32 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9246dd86-5e02-38d8-5425-a0c48199ffa4@stroeder.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: de-DE X-Sigh: S/MIME sigh milter - version 1607.1.5 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] inetOrgPerson 2.0 X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 11:22:35 -0000 Am 07.11.2017 um 10:53 schrieb Michael Ströder: > Andrew Findlay wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 09:39:19AM +1000, William Brown wrote: >> >>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ldapext/4fEh3Y9adJEl24r2F0598bnXrcg/?qid=f94a915c2574190c029541bc1d190a5e >> Looks good to me, and I am certainly willing to do some of the work. > Glad to hear that. > >> What was inetOrgPerson 2.0 all about? > Missing attributes we all add later by defining yet another custom > person object class. > > Possible examples: > birthName, birthPlace, buildingName, businessTitle, c (alias > countryName), dateOfBirth, delegatesTo, employeeType, gender, nickName, > organizationalStatus, personalTitle, serialNumber, uniqueIdentifier, > userClass > > I'm pretty sure many of us have other attributes to add. > We could try to build up on the schema work in the higher-education > community but should carefully try avoid bloat. > > We could also consider to deprecate use of some attributes in new > deployments. As recommendation for local profiles we might even define > DIT content rules with NOT as formal but optional deprecation spec. > > Possibe deprecation examples: > internationaliSDNNumber > photo (Fax syntax!) > x500UniqueIdentifier We should have a look at X500 and X520 latest edition (2016) first. There are some new attribute types, which might be of interest. -Dieter From nobody Tue Nov 7 08:15:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DE513394D for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 08:15:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ql1BDp0ect1H for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 08:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.stroeder.com (srv1.stroeder.com [213.240.180.113]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC32C133ED1 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 08:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.hv.local (mail.stroeder.local [10.1.1.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.stroeder.local", Issuer "stroeder.com Server CA no. 2009-07" (not verified)) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB4704ED; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 17:06:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from nb2.stroeder.local (nb2.vpn.hv.local [10.1.2.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail1.hv.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 887139A; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 17:06:24 +0100 (CET) To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dieter_Kl=c3=bcnter?= , ldapext@ietf.org References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> <20171107092304.GM25671@slab.skills-1st.co.uk> <9246dd86-5e02-38d8-5425-a0c48199ffa4@stroeder.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_Str=c3=b6der?= Openpgp: id=43C8730E84A20E560722806C07DC7AE36A8BC938 Message-ID: <77931b58-d070-ea6a-ad36-a6f9c294bb7c@stroeder.com> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 17:06:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms010103040007040203020007" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] inetOrgPerson 2.0 X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 16:15:14 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010103040007040203020007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dieter Kl=C3=BCnter wrote: > We should have a look at X500 and X520 latest edition (2016) first. > There are some new attribute types, which might be of interest. The recent 2016 copy is not freely downloadable. Were these attributes added in 2016 version? Or earlier? Could you please mention the attributes added? 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text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.12 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Wed, 08 Nov 2017 15:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 15:17:14 -0000 Hi, On 11/06/2017 06:23 PM, Michael Ströder wrote: > Ludwig Krispenz wrote: >> On 10/27/2017 12:32 PM, Ludwig Krispenz wrote: >>> On 10/27/2017 10:16 AM, Michael Ströder wrote: >>>> Ludwig Krispenz wrote: >>>>> [..] what I am missing is the topics of >>>>> extending ldap transactions and sync repl - as we discussed in >>>>> Edinburgh >>>> Ludwig, could you come up with some text describing this as concrete >>>> work items? Then we can discuss whether to add that or not. >>> ok, one is: >>> extend rfc4533 - Content Synchronization Operation to support ldap >>> transactions >> and there is a draft: >> https://docs.ldap.com/specs/draft-spacek-ldapext-syncrepl-transaction-01.txt > AFAICS this was never submitted as a I-D to IETF. > Or did I overlook something? > > @Ludwig: Could you please contact the author and clarify whether he's > still willing to work on this? the author is now longer working in this area and his new employer also isn't interested. But "if" an ldapserver supports ldap transactions and uses syncrepl for replication the txn boundaries get lost in replication unless the spec for sync repl is extended. So we may want to find another owner. > > Ciao, Michael. > -- Red Hat GmbH, http://www.de.redhat.com/, Registered seat: Grasbrunn, Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243, Managing Directors: Charles Cachera, Michael Cunningham, Michael O'Neill, Eric Shander From nobody Wed Nov 8 08:35:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A702F1287A5 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 08:35:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id paj29JPj9Ubl for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 08:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.stroeder.com (srv1.stroeder.com [213.240.180.113]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 662EB12871F for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 08:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.hv.local (mail.stroeder.local [10.1.1.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.stroeder.local", Issuer "stroeder.com Server CA no. 2009-07" (not verified)) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C108DE8; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 17:35:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from nb2.stroeder.local (nb2.stroeder.local [10.1.1.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail1.hv.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 652B68A; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 17:35:10 +0100 (CET) To: Ludwig Krispenz Cc: ldapext@ietf.org References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> <02ca8531-454c-4034-1402-346a299c331c@highlandsun.com> <59F2DE48.6050905@redhat.com> <13c3dc67-b3c2-64f6-afae-d6df27a485e0@stroeder.com> <59F30B2E.9030807@redhat.com> <59F30BC9.3030603@redhat.com> <5A0320DE.3040204@redhat.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_Str=c3=b6der?= Openpgp: id=43C8730E84A20E560722806C07DC7AE36A8BC938 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 17:35:10 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5A0320DE.3040204@redhat.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms080404070104010306020006" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] draft charter comment X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 16:35:16 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080404070104010306020006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ludwig Krispenz wrote: > On 11/06/2017 06:23 PM, Michael Str=C3=B6der wrote: >> Ludwig Krispenz wrote: >>> and there is a draft: >>> https://docs.ldap.com/specs/draft-spacek-ldapext-syncrepl-transaction= -01.txt >>> >> AFAICS this was never submitted as a I-D to IETF. >> Or did I overlook something? >> >> @Ludwig: Could you please contact the author and clarify whether he's >> still willing to work on this? > > the author is now longer working in this area and his new employer also= > isn't interested. So it boils down to whether you are willing to be the author/editor of such an I-D. > But "if" an ldapserver supports ldap transactions and uses syncrepl for= > replication the txn boundaries get lost in replication unless the spec > for sync repl is extended. So we may want to find another owner. Makes sense. But someone has to do the work. 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inetOrgPerson 2.0 X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 18:04:39 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030901090909000809050503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Str=C3=B6der wrote: > Dieter Kl=C3=BCnter wrote: >> We should have a look at X500 and X520 latest edition (2016) first. >> There are some new attribute types, which might be of interest. >=20 > The recent 2016 copy is not freely downloadable. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: de-DE X-Sigh: S/MIME sigh milter - version 1607.1.5 Archived-At: Subject: [ldapext] referencing attribute types X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 20:30:44 -0000 Hi, As we are going to restructure schemas and attribute types, I would suggest to adopt X.520 structure of attribute types. That is - System attribute types - Labelling attribute types - Geographical attribute types - Organizational attribute types - Explanatory attribute types - Postal Adressing attribute types - Telecommunication attribute types - Relational attribute types - Domain attribute types I propose to map following attribute type originating from X.520 to a ldap schema: dnQualifier and organizationIdentifier. -Dieter From nobody Wed Nov 8 15:02:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F32126C22 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 15:02:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ctq2153yo_7b for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 15:02:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.stroeder.com (srv1.stroeder.com [213.240.180.113]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99319124B0A for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 15:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.hv.local (mail.stroeder.local [10.1.1.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.stroeder.local", Issuer "stroeder.com Server CA no. 2009-07" (not verified)) by srv1.stroeder.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02E3731D; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 00:02:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from nb2.stroeder.local (nb2.stroeder.local [10.1.1.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail1.hv.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7AE97A; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 00:02:07 +0100 (CET) To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dieter_Kl=c3=bcnter?= , ldapext@ietf.org References: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_Str=c3=b6der?= Openpgp: id=43C8730E84A20E560722806C07DC7AE36A8BC938 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 00:02:06 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050803050302070606060003" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] referencing attribute types X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 23:02:14 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050803050302070606060003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dieter Kl=C3=BCnter wrote: > As we are going to restructure schemas and attribute types, Huh? Which text in the ldapext draft charter indicates that we are "going to restructure schemas and attribute types"? The work item "inetOrgPerson 2.0 schema" is meant to just update or replace RFC 2798. No more, no less. And I'd be willing to work on this on= e. > I would suggest to adopt X.520 structure of attribute types. That is If you want to add work items you should come up with precise text for ldapext draft charter describing what to do. And you should commit yourself to work on it. > I propose to map following attribute type originating from X.520 to a > ldap schema: >=20 > dnQualifier and organizationIdentifier. Personally I see no use for 'dnQualifier'. And 'organizationIdentifier' would be more suitable in a update for RFC 4519 which we do *not* have on our list yet. Again: Just mentioning ideas here is not enough. You guys have to come up with charter text and put your name on work item= s! 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Received: from rei.prd.blackhats.net.au (vpn2-54-118.bne.redhat.com [10.64.54.118]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C21360BE3; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 03:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1510197640.25104.90.camel@redhat.com> From: William Brown To: Michael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Str=F6der?= , Dieter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kl=FCnter?= , ldapext@ietf.org Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 13:20:40 +1000 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-5D9Ufo0hOk43p7uqKxX+" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.12 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.38]); Thu, 09 Nov 2017 03:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] referencing attribute types X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 03:20:47 -0000 --=-5D9Ufo0hOk43p7uqKxX+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2017-11-09 at 00:02 +0100, Michael Str=C3=B6der wrote: > Dieter Kl=C3=BCnter wrote: > > As we are going to restructure schemas and attribute types, >=20 > Huh? Which text in the ldapext draft charter indicates that we are > "going to restructure schemas and attribute types"? >=20 > The work item "inetOrgPerson 2.0 schema" is meant to just update or > replace RFC 2798. No more, no less. And I'd be willing to work on > this one. >=20 > > I would suggest to adopt X.520 structure of attribute types. That > > is >=20 > If you want to add work items you should come up with precise text > for > ldapext draft charter describing what to do. And you should commit > yourself to work on it. >=20 > > I propose to map following attribute type originating from X.520 to > > a > > ldap schema: > >=20 > > dnQualifier and organizationIdentifier. >=20 > Personally I see no use for 'dnQualifier'. And > 'organizationIdentifier' > would be more suitable in a update for RFC 4519 which we do *not* > have > on our list yet. >=20 > Again: > Just mentioning ideas here is not enough. > You guys have to come up with charter text and put your name on work > items! Exactly. We need the charter done first.=20 The dead line for that is approaching, so we need to consider submitting it in it's current form.=20 >=20 > Ciao, Michael. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Ldapext mailing list > Ldapext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ldapext --=20 Sincerely, William Brown Software Engineer Red Hat, Australia/Brisbane --=-5D9Ufo0hOk43p7uqKxX+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJaA8mIAAoJEISUiynM+PAgRpkP/AvxmJRjf9bkeFEWgoGIie2t MdfdRG2PwVBoXcnigkFnoxmsjm4HJaxmYRYejdZ8S3btbQrhSlZHBn5wad/I813L zhqqeySy0ik5dF6HY5R99x6ye8khtJcXryDlfV9T7ggRDTndVOBC13EwwhCzqRcc 03s3aWAOKMchRFHzBhMS70jsi+8dlScujxIc3vJYDqq4sgagPEL6X7nUh5tlTIjB jf9z01TaLDcqI0oU3y0TIMq9cOf5C+9bs1P6rN/Geu8JyGuPRuTKxFND6vV7wBl6 2SEFvDnFl1Nd4enrsBsyADfI8WngC7zC+A4iOPZtuhu9Qc13D+2qTVKGjpLQYF81 h8sty6Zc/GlBWTv6k+ZweNJAppswzpjDEXe6y33dEbcDoFwbDe5jOHZBKZXyMh29 QeK7912/s4efat0ZbP739G7gz1BCZiJOx+hx1aiWUpeQnOl0203Sz7T3nPOLjcIa Wl2jYRSG7aM7dB0x+OsBKawWToyi+Bj+7bPP3kHoeeR0yfO3HlSVBgOVBS9w46Xz z1PBCRxoeEVel7o4/TNnaM5gxgWcJp+OSSaD0/jmX4ADKJwOGfYoGlizcd37S01C Xw1MznnMqO3VMYPjuNy442LqzDOuUxATXb7vJ7bpOJbbUh5Rj2ClnBm7HC4823Fp /aaVujUB2FZuTAda/CJV =uOek -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5D9Ufo0hOk43p7uqKxX+-- From nobody Thu Nov 23 03:22:25 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ldapext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFEC128959 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 03:22:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MGrEzqodUwNd for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 03:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from email.daasi.de (email.daasi.de [88.99.174.43]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1709126CE8 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 03:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.8.2] (fw2.daasi.de [5.158.180.92]) by email.daasi.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DAE9A8621F6 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 12:22:21 +0100 (CET) To: ldapext@ietf.org References: <1509061159.20220.91.camel@redhat.com> <20171107092304.GM25671@slab.skills-1st.co.uk> <9246dd86-5e02-38d8-5425-a0c48199ffa4@stroeder.com> <77931b58-d070-ea6a-ad36-a6f9c294bb7c@stroeder.com> From: Peter Gietz Message-ID: <31637db1-3f52-ecb0-6383-04dbe6a29525@daasi.de> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 12:22:21 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BDF4033D9BBB5308D7229CE8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ldapext] inetOrgPerson 2.0 X-BeenThere: ldapext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: LDAP Extension Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:22:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BDF4033D9BBB5308D7229CE8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi If we want to standardise new LDAP person attributes, we might also want to think about new attributes brought up in SCIM, such as profileURL, userType, timeZone, etc. etc. Cheers, Peter Am 08.11.2017 um 19:02 schrieb Michael Ströder: > Michael Ströder wrote: >> Dieter Klünter wrote: >>> We should have a look at X500 and X520 latest edition (2016) first. >>> There are some new attribute types, which might be of interest. >> The recent 2016 copy is not freely downloadable. > FWIW there are also mappings to LDAP names herein: > > https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/formal-language/itu-t/x/x520/2016/SelectedAttributeTypes.html > > Ciao, Michael. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ldapext mailing list > Ldapext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ldapext --------------BDF4033D9BBB5308D7229CE8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi

If we want to standardise new LDAP person attributes, we might also want to think about new attributes brought up in SCIM, such as profileURL, userType, timeZone, etc. etc.

Cheers,

Peter


Am 08.11.2017 um 19:02 schrieb Michael Ströder:
Michael Ströder wrote:

Dieter Klünter wrote:

We should have a look at X500 and X520 latest edition (2016) first.
There are some new attribute types, which might be of interest.

The recent 2016 copy is not freely downloadable.

FWIW there are also mappings to LDAP names herein:

https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/formal-language/itu-t/x/x520/2016/SelectedAttributeTypes.html

Ciao, Michael.




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